Set to 1800
#overclocking
sterile flame
dull ginkgo
or leave it at 1:1
sterile flame
Now exit and save
jolly oracle
aight thanks max in hwmonitor is now 4649 mhz
sterile flame
Np
sterile flame
Always
sterile flame
If that ain't broke af I don't know what is
frigid sentinel
LMAO
i got a prebuilt
which was 1300 dollars
i was so dumb
to buy this garbage prebuilt
sterile flame
Who's the moronic company that scammed you for one fan?
frigid sentinel
best buy
sterile flame
Lol
frigid sentinel
it was the omen obelisk
sterile flame
People keep buying based off looks
frigid sentinel
i mean it was before christmas and i was 14 years old and was rly hyped
so i just rushed it in
:/
frigid sentinel
nah but my case cant hold any other fans
sterile flame
frigid sentinel
LOOL
it gets around 70 degrees C' on games
i could scramble some eggs if i want to
on that
sterile flame
Probably an 8700 non k
frigid sentinel
yep all cuz of the stupid case
took up the entire price
my system board is a 84FD 00
sterile flame
Here's a $1200 build I did last year for my little cousin. Used mobo and used GPU. GTX 1080/9600K.
sterile flame
Lord ew
frigid sentinel
i wish i built that
sterile flame
Building is fun and a great learning experience. People think it's harder than it really is.
frigid sentinel
i didnt know much at the time about pcs so i bought a prebuilt
i regret it
so much
sterile flame
That mobo layout is so weird
sterile flame
?
sterile flame
Hp is so damn cheap I swear to god
sterile flame
Bright side it's not ketchup or mustard cables
frigid sentinel
Since it was 1300
vernal sail
To be fair the PSU is like titanium rated
frigid sentinel
Ye
sterile flame
That's wasteful spending on a titanium
frigid sentinel
Yep
sterile flame
It's an efficiency rating, not a reliability or quality rating. You can still get a bad platinum or at the least a really loud coil whine platinum.
frigid sentinel
1 stick of 16gb
vernal sail
That hurts to look at lol
frigid sentinel
Ik :(
vernal sail
Imagine not haveing 6 dimms
frigid sentinel
Loool
sterile flame
Single channel ram is shooting yourself in the foot. A surprising amount of performance is lost with single channel.
frigid sentinel
Should i have gotten 2 of 8gb
sterile flame
YES
vernal sail
The one good thing about old intel is 6 dimm motherboards
frigid sentinel
Does it matter if u put em in a certain spot
Like slot 1 and 3
Or slot 1 and 2
frigid sentinel
Oh
left bladeBOT
Edward Opris#5138 has been warned
vernal sail
actually found an error in some mobos
sterile flame
They'll kick you but you can come back
frigid sentinel
Dang
sterile flame
What kinda weird as f error is that?
vernal sail
Had trident neos running at 1666
And then moved them and full 3600
But i think that is not common
sterile flame
Sounds like all you really needed to do is re seat the RAM. Happened to me before.
vernal sail
Nah, wouldn’t work on the other channel
sterile flame
Dead?
sterile flame
Yeah that's odd. My X570 I had the same resulting issue but re seating solved it just fine.
vernal sail
Getting rid of an x570?
sterile flame
Yes
vernal sail
That would be a tough break-up
sterile flame
Getting an Asus B550 Strix
sterile flame
Same power setup and almost same IO
I hear whining through my headphones when GPU is under load.
Keep in mind that my headphones are connected to an external Amp, connected to an external dac, connected to the computer via USB rear.
It's weird af
Never when CPU is under load. No change of ports makes a difference, not different cables.
vernal sail
Hmm... odd
sterile flame
Also it's not my PSU. It's quiet unlike my EVGA Super Nova G5 80+ Gold
vernal sail
Evga does make some nice psus
sterile flame
My guess is the 60-70w power that the mobo gives to the GPU through PCIE slot and the coil whine or whatever the heck it is, is being triggered.
Yeah, but the one I got is so damn loud.
wary tapir
no whine, 100% stress test max is 55C and just occasionally with fan at minimum speed
350w max power tho..2x8 pin power connectors only
for who hate fans noise like me, this is the awesome
olive portal
awesome and out of stock
sterile flame
Claudio you already showed me what GPU you had awhile go. Still that or EVGA FTW3 Hybrid I want.
My Aorus X570 is bad tho for that one thing.
tall pelican
3900xt 
sterile flame
awesome and out of stock
why are you here
you shouldn't be here
ironic
out of all channels
olive portal
why are you here
Now why are u here
tall pelican
because he's so cpu bound and he wants to fix it 
sterile flame
because he's so cpu bound and he wants to fix it <:LeoKek:798776990508908594>
im on 1440p and its overclocked already
tall pelican
I was at 1440p on a 2700x at 4.35 all core and 3666 bdie, and I was cpu bound with a 5700xt in everything outside of AAA games, so I know you're cpu bound up the wazzu
olive portal
im on 1440p and its overclocked already
cold jolt
when it melts, ice cream likes to leak out of the corners of containers like these
glad I found a use for this to protect my mousepad
olive portal
the more important question is why the icecream is in a box instead of a cup
tribal scroll
I am overclocking my Ryzen 5 2600 with Gigabyte B450M DS3H to 3.75 GHZ, instead of auto, what should my voltage be?
acoustic crane
when it melts, ice cream likes to leak out of the corners of containers like the...
is that common ice cream packaging where you live?
cause thats just weird
olive portal
Why did I think of fork pouring ln2 from that picture
sterile flame
What's with the dude with an old ass Ryzen 2700 thinking it's not bottlenecking a 3080. Does he have a single stick of ram with xmp off too?
dull ginkgo
Bro my fx 8350 is definitely not the issue with my 3090
vapid berry
vague gull
What's with the dude with an old ass Ryzen 2700 thinking it's not bottlenecking ...
@sterile flame 
sterile flame
What's with the dude with an old ass Ryzen 2700 thinking it's not bottlenecking ...
its minimal jackass at no point i said it wasn't bottlenecking "old ass 2700" got it for 170$ in christmas 2018 before the 3600 even came out
sterile flame
I am overclocking my Ryzen 5 2600 with Gigabyte B450M DS3H to 3.75 GHZ, instead ...
just keep it on auto
doesn't matter
1.325v if you want to manual
"you tried"
nice regular+
Feels like I hit a soft spot on the nitro booster with a superiority complex
quick rose
I suggest we stop the personal attacks
wind prairie
Another intel stan
sterile flame
Magic!
cold jolt
at 1440p+, bottleneck would be nearly non existent, if hes running a monitor at 144hz or less, the story is much the same.
cold jolt
"bottleneck" is a term that really only applies to gaming, so its a bottleneck assuming he games with the system, and depends entirely on the monitor he is trying to drive
sterile flame
getting 15 sum fps lower than a 10900k using 4000mhz ram
proven canopy
at 1440p+, bottleneck would be nearly non existent, if hes running a monitor at ...
Really depends on the game imo
You could be running valorant/apex on a 240hz 1440p samsung g7
Or the ultrawide g9
sterile flame
"Nearly non existant" when it literally depends on the game where you can see a gap of almost 30fps @ 1440p from what I've seen and significantly worse 1% & 0.1% lows
proven canopy
significantly worse 1% & 0.1% lows
This
sterile flame
Most titles are within the high teen to twenties number range of frames
cold jolt
Really depends on the game imo
i mean, im trying to run with the term "bOTtLeNeCk" here...
sterile flame
Secondly a high speed RAM like 4000Mhz or 4400Mhz yields little gains in FPS over 3600Mhz but worse 1% & 0.1% lows. You're shooting yourself in the foot.
sterile flame
i mean, im trying to run with the term "bOTtLeNeCk" here...
It was a joke based on what some rando said earlier
cold jolt
gotta be vague with generic terms
quick rose
Especially if you desync the FCLK from the ram
cold jolt
Secondly a high speed RAM like 4000Mhz or 4400Mhz yields little gains in FPS ove...
hes not using 4000MT/s ram, the 10900k hes comparing it to is
sterile flame
hes not using 4000MT/s ram, the 10900k hes comparing it to is
I'm talking about the individual and the facts
cold jolt
"getting 15 sum fps lower than a 10900k that is using 4000mhz ram"
just to make it clear what he meant to say
i read it wrong the first time too
sterile flame
He said using. That can also be seen as referring to himself because people do that including me
cold jolt
He said using. That can also be seen as referring to himself because people do t...
yes and im telling you thats not what he meant
sterile flame
You're right. He's using 2666 single channel
cold jolt
You're right. He's using 2666 single channel
you know this how?
cold jolt
you should, that way we can have a discussion
sterile flame
Saying u
cold jolt
yeah, i know
sterile flame
@quick rose Should I tell him?
sterile flame
I'm too broke to have a horse :(
proven canopy
Secondly a high speed RAM like 4000Mhz or 4400Mhz yields little gains in FPS ove...
That assumes timings get markedly worse
left bladeBOT
SassyFish256#5719 has been warned
cold jolt
whatever, i dont care enough to talk to know-it-alls
sterile flame
Horses can be so huge over 7ft like damn
wheat ether
lol
sterile flame
whatever, i dont care enough to talk to know-it-alls
You still don't get it?
wheat ether
whats going on here
neon rapids
idk
sterile flame
whats going on here
Didn't recognize a joke
Or sarcasm. Probably my bad tho. Text doesn't translate well, but whatever
olive portal
Another intel stan
His pfp bully me
sterile flame
His pfp bully me
He's just blind and didn't read my pfp because it's not what it seems
vague gull
bad pfp tbh
sterile flame
5600X user but both sides have their ups and downs through the years.
brazen grove
just built my 5600x pc yesterday
i wanna see how good my sample is but this is my first build so i know almost nothing about overclocking
i did the auto oc on ryzen master and it said the max boost was 4.75
sterile flame
i did the auto oc on ryzen master and it said the max boost was 4.75
What speed is your RAM at? Do you have the latest bios and chipset installed? Manual oc for Zen 3 is pointless. PBO or Auto is the way to go.
brazen grove
i have 3600mhz ram
cl16
i have an x570 board with
the latest bios
and chipset
@sterile flame what is PBO?
sterile flame
<@456226577798135808> what is PBO?
Precision Boost Overdrive
Can you go into your BIOS and set your FCLK Fabric Clock to 1,800 if it's not already?
XMP On if not either
Cool & Quiet turned off. Eco turned off if not already.
brazen grove
i meant xmp
quick rose
Xmp is the same as docp
brazen grove
ye
heavy bramble
olive portal
You should be able to get 4.6-4.8Ghz all cores on the 5600X. Most people do.
Unless he got a bad chip.
short spruce
the max i can get stable on my ryzen 5 1600AF with 1.32V is 3825mhz
and with stable i mean that resisted prime95 small ftts
is that any good
or does my die suck
olive portal
i think its good but amd zen + isnt meant to oc
short spruce
Precision Boost Overdrive
for me precision boost overdirve shows as disabled on ryzen master
dull ginkgo
I don't think Zen gets pbo
1600af confuses me every time
Whatever, don't think Zen+ gets pbo either
dull ginkgo
Hm
@quick rose don't think I got it back when I had my 2700, and I thought it was 3000 only
dull ginkgo
Might've been
quick rose
There was an AGESA update that broke it
dull ginkgo
Yea I like flashed bios once and left it
And then never touched cpu oc again
And broke ram oc many times
quick rose
Yeah, some BIOS not meant for Pinnacle Ridge
It'll break if you update BIOS to the wrong version
quick rose
Yeah
dull ginkgo
Also ryzen master pbo might just be wacky
quick rose
There are certain BIOS not meant for Pinnacle Ridge on B450, at least some manufacturers have the warning
short spruce
what abt b350
dull ginkgo
Huh
sterile flame
Unless he got a bad chip.
Well yeah, but he's already mentioned 4.7
sterile flame
for me precision boost overdirve shows as disabled on ryzen master
Ignore Ryzen Master. Uninstall that nonsense and enable it at a BIOS level.
olive portal
All ai overclocks are bad.
I’d just learn how to manual oc
It takes like an hr to learn
sterile flame
Auto OC was actually proven to perform better than any other method. The difference is so slight tho. PBO is better overall and convenient.
Manual OC on Ryzen 5000 is Hella stupid
olive portal
Pbo use to many volts
sterile flame
No?
olive portal
Not really manual oc is always superior
dull ginkgo
nah
sterile flame
You assume. You don't know but you're acting like it.
sterile flame
AMD approves of using 1.4v. The chip is rated up to 1.5 and MSI recommends 1.4
4.7 in 1.3 range is hella unstable or not at all
olive portal
Pbo goes up to 1.5v I think
sterile flame
I've been there I've done that bs. I don't manual oc on it.
My PBO never touched it and I've monitored it everyday. 1.43v is the highest at 4.8Ghz all core
dull ginkgo
let pbo do it's thing, pbo won't kill the chip
sterile flame
4.83 if you wanna get specific
olive portal
1.43v kinda high
sterile flame
No
dull ginkgo
but ofc manual all core gets more 3dmark points
olive portal
But if it’s for like a second or two it’s alright
sterile flame
You're just concerned.
olive portal
U could probably get lower volts on 4.8ghz just saying
dull ginkgo
and manual override uv makes room cool :P
clever epoch
there's a huge difference between spiking up to 1.4+V and running at 1.4V 24/7
sterile flame
It's not for a second or two. It's almost completely locked at that frequency until there's no workload. Proper cooling it needed tho or it's gonna go up and down.
clever epoch
with PBO you don't have to worry about chip degradation, but if you manual OC and fix the voltage at a high value, there's a good chance for degradation
sterile flame
U could probably get lower volts on 4.8ghz just saying
Yes that's probable. Take what you see from PBO, and replicate it, then slowly pull back on voltage.
olive portal
with PBO you don't have to worry about chip degradation, but if you manual OC an...
There’s always degradation when u put the voltage above the safe limit
sterile flame
with PBO you don't have to worry about chip degradation, but if you manual OC an...
Degradation is certainly faster on manual, ye
olive portal
Degradation is certainly faster on manual, ye
Depends
clever epoch
There’s always degradation when u put the voltage above the safe limit
not always
sterile flame
Above 1.4 is not "danger"
clever epoch
there's 2 different safe limits
dull ginkgo
1.3v+ can be danger for manual for zen 2 and zen 3
sterile flame
1.4 is safe.
clever epoch
if you're talking about the normal limit, it entirely depends on the load
you can set it to 1.5V 24/7 and have no degradation as long as there's no load
olive portal
1.4 is safe.
Well on intel it is but the chip will degrade a little bit in a year
clever epoch
but if you load at 1.5V you will degrade
olive portal
Idk bout amd
sterile flame
You saying only when under load 24/7 is a (example) 1.48v lock a concern?
olive portal
but if you load at 1.5V you will degrade
Pretty sure that’s just going to be a voltage spike
clever epoch
but there's a greater voltage limit for silicon where the chip will degrade regardless of load, and that has to do with voltage breakdown of the silicon
no I'm saying that you can set it to 1.5V constant voltage without degradation as long as you don't load the chip
clever epoch
Yeah
so there's 2 "limits" you have to consider
- Voltage limit with load (depends on current/load for degradation)
- Silicon voltage limit (the voltage itself will degrade the chip)
olive portal
And heat but I’m pretty sure most people have decent coolers
Well heat if your near thermal throttle I suppose
clever epoch
high temperatures will increase the rate of degradation in either case
but at the same time, thermal cycles (going from high to low temperatures) can also cause failures (it's not exactly degradation, but it will gradually cause instability)
this is a long but very informative video about how computer chips degrade
or any chips I guess
olive portal
Well by the time the cpu go poopy it’s already irrelevant
clever epoch
I mean
people run a single system for long periods of time
you don't always need maximum computing power, just consistent performance and stability for long periods of time
neon rapids
for buildzoid/gn long videos set it to 1.25 or 1.5 speed
clever epoch
so this information also applies if you want a system to last a long time
yeah this isn't even a buildzoid/GN combo video. This is raw buildzoid, which is even more ramble-y 😛
neon rapids
lol yeah i meant those separately forgot they do stuff together
clever epoch
highly recommend his channel if you're into overclocking and hardware though. Just leave it running in the background or another monitor while doing something else mundane or chill
ruby coyote
you guys think overclocking a 3070 is worth it? or should i keep it normal
short spruce
you guys think overclocking a 3070 is worth it? or should i keep it normal
depends on your brand, most graphic cards come overclocked
ruby coyote
FE edition
quick rose
I recommend going up in smaller increments but......quick and dirty. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqshaJTI8FQ
short spruce
is there any way to overclock my storage to run it faster lol
apparently you can overclock SSDS
lol
SSDs
FULL OVERCLOCKED PC GUIDE
olive portal
vernal sail
Takeing a 2003 amd sempron without cooling to 4 ghz is very fun
clever epoch
Increasing the power limit of your card in MSI afterburner is the one thing you can do that gives the most extra performance
everything else is kinda meh
you can get a bit of a mem OC on 3070 though
wind prairie
@short spruce dont
short spruce
Too late
wind prairie
Oh no
olive portal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csYUReEhtvQ
reminds me of the time i set a new overclock record on the school computer.
sterile flame
It does
my 2700x doesnt let me use pbo
or is that just my 💩 b350
or is that just my 💩 b350
quick rose
B350
sterile flame
vernal sail
@fringe apex was just thinking
In that OC challenge you did a while back
Would it be possible to offload the OS and background tasks to a xeon phi or something like that to boost the FX’s ability?
proven canopy
No, even if possible, that'd probably be against the rules.
vague gull
No, even if possible, that'd probably be against the rules.
can u use one of those stupidly modded isos that takes like 0 ram and have nothing in bkg
compact birch
Did someone overclock psu ??
dull ginkgo
Yes moding the os is usually part of the challenge
proven canopy
Most people strip their OS, ya, but ram usage isn't usually the issue.
Limiting windows to 4GB of ram for b-die high voltage stability is common, e.g
bcdedit /set removememory 11500
short spruce
for those who tested it to see if it really worked the revertion command is bcdedit /deletevalue removememory
gaunt totem
Hello
So my BIOS for ASUS x470-i, 5800x runs at base clock but my ram is 100% overclocked to 3800-15-15-15-34 2T... I want it to run at boost for cpu freq now but not overclock the ram any further to cause instability.. Anything I can do? XFR and PBO is off I believe
quick rose
YW
gaunt totem
Those are CPU only
Hey so um my CPU boost is still not enabled, 3.8ghz still on 5800x
I enabled both
quick rose
Are you loading it?
With like, prime 95?
Because if the CPU doesn't' have a load it won't boost
gaunt totem
Suuuure
quick rose
Oh, is it not?
gaunt totem
ty ❤️
sterile flame
I got a B550 with 8+4 PCIE CPU power. Using the 4 pin recommended for a 5600X? Only had 8 on my X570 and things were just fine. Both mobos are 12+2 phase power supply to CPU. Maybe the 4 extra will be some good overhead?
tall pelican
and its just cpu or pcie, not pcie cpu
sterile flame
I was talking about the specific power cable and if it's not called PCIE power then ok
sterile flame
Only need the sxtra 4 pin if heavy overclock
Does the single 8 pin supply 150 watt limit?
cold jolt
its called an 8 pin EPS connector
also, they dont really have set power limits, so its just gonna keep drawing wattage till the connector melt
and no way in hell a 5600x gonna draw enough to do anything like that
sterile flame
122 watts only
tall pelican
8 pin eps is rated for 400w for standard pins
high current pins (gigabyte and some asus) are closer to 480-500w
sterile flame
What's the reasoning for two 8 pin on a 3080 that doesn't draw more than 320 watts?
tall pelican
8 pin pcie only have 3 power pins per 8 pin connector, and each pin spec is like 30-50w
tall pelican
nvidia is also strict about it and says AIBs have to limit bios to the 75w for 6 pin, 150w for 8 pin and 75w pcie slot
sterile flame
I think EVGA was called out for drawing more than 80
tall pelican
sterile flame
Some drama affecting preformance
tall pelican
sense are grounds
sterile flame
Why is it called sense?
tall pelican
because the gpu can "sense" those pins to determine 6 vs 8 pin connectors
sterile flame
does anyone know how to overclock on aorus board
sterile flame
what
sterile flame
try PState overclocking
whats thaty
short spruce
search it up
but
your motherboard probably supports overclocking
just search it up on google
whats ur motherboard chipset
sterile flame
whats ur motherboard chipset
z390
and i have a 9600k
ive tried looking at vidoes but i just cant figure it out i was hoping that maybe someone had a aorus board and could help ,me
short spruce
z390
Try this https://youtu.be/d8rY4TrcDXg
sterile flame
ok
short spruce
If this doesn't work, some BIOSes have overclocking disabled by default and to fix that you should go to gigabytes website and update your bios, but that could cause problems
wise schooner
@quick rose Hey Vintage you know anything about overclocking cpu?
cold jolt
tall pelican
tldr: more voltage = more clock speed
neon rapids
yes
sterile flame
tldr: more voltage = more clock speed
naaaaa
my 2700x got 4.2GHz on base voltage but never got any higher not even 4.25 even on 1.325v
tall pelican
then you didnt overclock it did you 🙃
clever epoch
What's the reasoning for two 8 pin on a 3080 that doesn't draw more than 320 wat...
You got some replies but I will also remind you that peak power draw is a thing, and it can spike upwards of 400W
sterile flame
What’s a decent starting clock for an i5-4690k? I’m running 4.5ghz OC right now with 1.335v
Please tag me when you answer because I’ll probably be asleep
sterile flame
then you didnt overclock it did you 🙃
that is overclocking
sterile flame
that is overclocking
No it’s not LOL
Not going above base isn’t overclocking
Tbh
sour vortex
What’s a decent starting clock for an i5-4690k? I’m running 4.5ghz OC right now ...
I only really got into overclocking a bit over a year ago, so I'm not an expert. It really depends on the silicon, though. Sometimes you can get really lucky, sometimes not. I'd say 4.5 at 1.335 is pretty great for a 4th gen Intel chip. My Ryzen 7 2700 only reaches 4.1 GHz at just under 1.4v, and it's much newer.
Though, I could just have been unlucky in the silicon lottery.
brazen walrus
sour vortex
But I don't think I can go much higher than 4.8
I've hit a wall that you're probably going to also hit. Basically, I can reach 4.0 at a much lower voltage than 4.1. You'll probably encounter something similar.
I'm seriously debating whether it's worth the extra heat generated for an additional .1 GHz.
Unless you have an NH-D15, you probably don't want to go above 1.4v.
sterile flame
Anyone else got a 5600X? Been screwing around tweaking and now my score in Cinebench is 11782. Was curious about what I'd get with a negative 30 offset but my chip is not stable at that. Negative 25 for me. I want to compare and share info.
Strangely scores get slowly and consistently worse the higher I go past 4.6
What yall think about this. Cinebench the 5600X tops at 4.6Ghz all core, but in games/3DMark it's 4.849 all core
11789 with 28 offset in curve optimizer so close to breaking 11800 regardless of irl gaming performance being almost no different! 😀
tall pelican
What yall think about this. Cinebench the 5600X tops at 4.6Ghz all core, but in ...
4.85 effective or just hitting the 48.5 ratio?
I ran hwinfo in the background, gamed for an hour, and compared max effective clocks. Just maxing out pbo boost gave highest effective clocks
sterile flame
4.85 effective or just hitting the 48.5 ratio?
4.8 ratio? That's just with 1.43v, but manual performs worse than PBO so I don't do that anymore.
tall pelican
No, where are you getting the 4.849 all core from?
That sounds like a ratio and not effective clock
sterile flame
HWMonitor?
What's the difference between ratio and effective?
When it comes to temperatures there are inconsistencies between HWMonitor and 3DMark
tall pelican
Ratio would be it spiking to 4.85, effective is what's being used by programs
Think of having a 5 gallon bucket being 5ghz, but only filling it with 3 gallons of water (3ghz effective)
With zen2 and 3, effective is what you want to watch because of boosting behavior
And not sure if hwmonitor does effective clock, but hwinfo64 does
sterile flame
No effective clock in it, no.
tall pelican
Hwinfo64, run it in sensors only mode
sterile flame
You telling me regardless of say a 4.7Ghz clock. The program wouldn't utilize more than 4.5? Or am I missing something?
Misleading numbers?
tall pelican
If your program hits 4.5ghz effective, and hwinfo shows that thread at 100% utilization, then that's PB coming into effect
It'll idle boost to 4.9 or whatever, but under load only hit 4.5
sterile flame
92% utilization, but right now I'm running ram/cpu stress test in Prime95
Ryzen 5000 on older bios versions and everything set to auto, yeah
tall pelican
Doesn't 5000 series boost a single core higher like Intel does?
Zen+ and zen2 do too
Zen2 introduced core rating, so windows knows which core to assign loads to
quick rose
I honestly forgot about that
tall pelican
Ya
quick rose
I have my PBO set up a bit on the strong side so I don't think I've ever seen a single core boost
tall pelican
On my 3900xt, best core could hit 5ghz, 5800x has seen 4.8 effective
It'll boost if you run a light single thread load, like cinebench
sterile flame
How long do I run Prime95 for RAM stress testing?
quick rose
Ah, cinebench single core. I'm curious now
tall pelican
How long do I run Prime95 for RAM stress testing?
I use occt mem test
tall pelican
Ah, cinebench single core. I'm curious now
R20 would hit 4.85, r23 hit 5 on 3900xt surprised how much lighter r23 is
quick rose
If you want to test RAM, I'd use this instead: https://www.overclock.net/threads/memory-testing-with-testmem5-tm5-with-custom-configs.1751608/
P95 doesn't do a very good job
tall pelican
Yeah, you want a dedicated ram test
sterile flame
It was something along the lines of large FFTS Memory controller/RAM stress test, but it spikes the heat on my CPU bad
quick rose
Yep, use the Testmem5 test if you want to test RAM. A couple posts down there are setting recommendations for the settings
sterile flame
So every core/thread is 100% utilization, 4.6 all cores. 4.3 effective all core
What is Residency
tall pelican
that's sleeping
this is what you'd see as "4.9 all core" but since the max on any core is just 4.74, that's what its boosting to
then you have zen2 which on occasion would boost higher than the "ratio"
sterile flame
The difference between Fmax off vs on. Broke 11800 for a score of 11820. Only change was Fmax to off and curve optimizer negative offset was set back to 25
Basically screw Fmax. It's garbage.
It was on auto up until now.
tall pelican
fmax if you're doing single core loads, CO if mt
proven canopy
Press windows shift s
sterile flame
fmax if you're doing single core loads, CO if mt
I mean I still boost to 4.8 and never had fmax on my old X570
sterile flame
Press windows shift s
Do people really not know screen snip?
Windows, Shift, S literally just activates Screen Snip program.
proven canopy
sour vortex
Likely upgrading to Zen 3 once it's available. I've heard people say rather than manually overclocking, you should just use some boost thing. Is that PBO or something else? I have a non-X Zen+, so I have no experience with PBO.
latent sphinx
Does anyone know any good overclocking motherboards for under 100 bucks?
sterile flame
https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/57171347? Look at the cpu clock and score
tall pelican
what about it?
tall pelican
okay, what voltage?
sterile flame
I got it to successfully run
sterile flame
okay, what voltage?
1.4
sterile flame
I’m not dailying this ofc
sour vortex
1.4 isn't terrible. The only issue I have is potentially overheating VRMs when running Cinebench for hours.
At least for me.
tall pelican
its a 3600
dull ginkgo
The main issue we have with voltage isn't heat
Higher voltage can cause heat yes
But we're worried about deterioration
sour vortex
1.4 is unsafe?
sterile flame
Not going above base isn’t overclocking
I increased GHz that is OVER base clock why would I increase my power bill????
sterile flame
1.4 is unsafe?
For a 2700 you should be maxing out at 1.325v
sour vortex
Guess I'll just use my 4.0 GHz profile. It's exactly 1.325v.
sterile flame
its a 3600
Yeah, i9 3600kfa avenger edition
clever epoch
you mean 10600kfa?
sterile flame
you mean 10600kfa?
No
clever epoch
there is no i9 3600kfa...
tall pelican
He's trying to be a troll lol
clever epoch
oh
olive portal
sterile flame
spinning at that speed is definitely enough for it to go fast enough to create infinitely more mass
so nice black hole creator
prisma arch
Wow
sterile flame
Finally broke 9k, but GPU score not as high as it used to be.
royal quiver
That is hilarious
brave steeple
sterile flame
The good ole days of Nickelodeon
sterile flame
Claudio for the 5th time I get it you're better than me in every way
😔
I'm still gonna get an AIO GPU any chance I get
Gonna sell my 3080 Gaming OC
tall pelican
tall pelican
Then ask what part you get confused with
tall pelican
Mobo manufacturer?
sterile flame
MSI
tall pelican
Nb-soc set to override, then 1.1v
sterile flame
Also I have C die
sterile flame
Okay, stick with 1.35v dram
Pretty sure it’s higher than that stock though
tall pelican
Checked 042 code?
tall pelican
Yup
tall pelican
F that is cdie
tall pelican
Trying to get 3800 out of it?
tall pelican
Timings wont lessen cuz cdie is 💩
You can try like 19-23-23-23-44 1t gdm off
For 3800
tall pelican
doesnt matter, just set voltages
sterile flame
doesnt matter, just set voltages
Set this to 1.1 correct
Which it looks like that pretty much what it’s already at
Can I just DM you man
proven canopy
The 4400 c19's? why?
tall pelican
okay? I've had 3 kits of gskiill do 3800 14-14-14-21
3 out of my 4 kits
and of the one kit that couldnt, one stick could while the other stick couldnt
quick rose
Hynix chips?
sterile flame
Okay and? I'm talking about c die vs good value b die
tall pelican
https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232217? is that not good value?
sterile flame
Who said it wasn't?
tall pelican
oof its cheaper than patriots https://www.newegg.com/patriot-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820225144?
sterile flame
I'm talking about the Trident Z RGB
tall pelican
why? patriot isnt rgb
sterile flame
So argumentative lol
dull ginkgo
what
tall pelican
you're in #overclocking and those sticks arent nearly as good as others at the same price
dull ginkgo
I'm confused on why Trident Z RGB is being brought up
tall pelican
no idea
dull ginkgo
when ripjaws are clearly an option, and just were linked
tall pelican
could have even linked 3200c14 flarex, but I dont think those have temp sensors
not having temp sensors on bdie is dumb
sterile flame
Gigabyte Fanboy with the C die, you can scroll up you know
People keep recommending Trident Z, Z Royals, and especially Neo, that absolute lie.
tall pelican
neos are limited to bdie and hynix cjr/djr, I dont see an issue with it
sterile flame
I have yet to see proof of an irl difference between Trident and Neo
proven canopy
My a0 flarex doesn't, no
dull ginkgo
https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232217? is tha...
This is still good
tall pelican
what's the difference between tridentZ and tridentZ Neo? literally the same sticks with different heatspreaders
proven canopy
The neo heatspreader looks ok but it feels flimsy
proven canopy
the 16 16 16 36 stuff is low end bdie
dull ginkgo
I don't think I understand the argument
quick rose
Taht's def not B-Die, you can tell from the timings
People just assume Trident is B-Die
tall pelican
Taht's def not B-Die, you can tell from the timings
and the code that starts with 042
sterile flame
This is still good
It is, but no one ever questioned that.
dull ginkgo
Yea I don't know the point in the discussion here now
thought it was about g.skill having good ram for price to perf, which g.skill does
sterile flame
That's the problem people think it's good for Ryzen or the Neo "Optimized for Ryzen" price hike
tall pelican
"optimized for ryzen" means it has even cl in the xmp, nothing else
sterile flame
Yea I don't know the point in the discussion here now
It was about Gskill and their marketing for their RGB "higher end" ram
tall pelican
and ||every neo kit has even cl||
sterile flame
Good value tho?
tall pelican
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Xz_rQgNFQF3Dm0yHJBzldVkal5jmfI9Ug9tnpjky5Bc/edit#gid=0 if its on here, its bdie
sterile flame
@tall pelican B die can’t be 3200 cl16?
tall pelican
not guaranteed, and if it is, its generally not good
tall pelican
cuz its cheap
short spruce
ok quick queston
question
i did msi afterburner's overclock scanner and it said I could overclock my gpu to around 120mhz
but when i did the test thing to see if it was stable
it said it was overclocking it to +150mhz
not 120
should I overclock my gpu to 150 or 120?
thanks
tall pelican
test both?
sterile flame
go as high as you want aslong as its stable
restive cargo
@short spruce I'd set your power limits to their max in Afterburner and lock your fan speed at like 70% or so to simulate a real world load situation.
If you were going to a HWBOT submission or something then you'd have the fans at 100% to get the absolute last bit of perf from it.
But for a daily staible oc 70% fans speed max power limit and keep increasing your core speed until you crash then try your memory with the last stabil core clock.
whole compass
Hey guys, I'm thinking about getting a 5950x to pair with my 3090. However, I only have a 850w PSU. do you think it'll work? or do you think it'll trip my PSU?
olive portal
id go with a 1000w or 1200 maybe. idk if it will trip 850w tho
olive portal
Hey guys, I'm thinking about getting a 5950x to pair with my 3090. However, I on...
ive seen someone with a i9 10900k and a 3090 and he said it worked fine
whole compass
Thanks
I'm just a little paranoid because forums all say 1kw PSUs
I have a plat seasonic 850 and I thought it would last me forever...
olive portal
yea id go 1000w if u trip it
short spruce
ive seen someone with a i9 10900k and a 3090 and he said it worked fine
so it will work just fine
5950X consumes lots less power than 10900K
quick rose
Hynix or E-die or IDK. Only 3200 C14 is B-die
olive portal
e dies are fine if your not going pass 4ghz i think
sterile flame
It’s Hynix JJR
proven canopy
I thought royals were supposed to be a top end sku
quick rose
Nope
proven canopy
e dies are fine if your not going pass 4ghz i think
"e-die" = samsung
If you meant micron rev.e, those aren't rev.e
quick rose
Na, Samsung E die
tall pelican
Sams 4gbit edie was the best until bdie came around
But that definitely looks like 8821J
sterile flame
warm barn
we're should I go on discord for ram
lunar mirage
warm barn
ty
slate cedar
hey guys im thinking about buying a prebuilt but the cpu isnt overclockable and I believe the motherboard isnt compatible with cpu's that are will I be able to swap these out when the new 11th gen unlocked cpu's are released?
this is the one I was looking at https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali462/p/N82E16883360047?Item=N82E16883360047 any help would be appreciated
sterile flame
@slate cedar what's you budget for a new pc?
slate cedar
My current rig is a 4th gen i5 with an nvidia 820m so I ended up just ordering that one since theres no other way to get an rtx 30 right now and I dont want to wait on parts
sterile flame
ok
quick rose
hey guys im thinking about buying a prebuilt but the cpu isnt overclockable and ...
If you want to change to 11th gen, you'd need new CPU, motherboard and RAM with that PC
slate cedar
The ram too? Damn ok
quick rose
Yes
hollow wigeon
would a computer black screen restart if my CPU was over voltage I had my Ryzen 9 5950x CPU Core voltage at 1.4375
tall pelican
are voltage and clock speed on auto, or did you casually set 1.44?
orchid flame
It’s Hynix JJR
where did you get that info from
JJR is extremely rare on consumer
its mainly in OEM kits
taiphoon cannot be trusted for g.skill ram
actually, taiphoon cannot be trusted in general but 
just check the 042 code on the sticker
what are the last 3 digits?
too low res for me to make out
tall pelican
But that definitely looks like 8821J
.
orchid flame
yeah I saw I couldnt make it out myself
cause I'm blind
hows it going fitz
"Destroying castles in the sky"
nice status
orchid flame
you like metal?
tall pelican
ya
sterile flame
I know taiphoon guesses
dusty trail
I have a ram kit rated for 3600mhz at cl16 and i enabled DOCP in bios, however, in ICUE the Dram requency is only shown at 1800, i am on a x570 chipset aswell
any reason for this?
dusty trail
What's 1800x2?
Idk, it is two 8gb ram sticks running dual channel
dusty trail
What's 1800x2?
oh i see what you mean, its running at 1800mhz
latent sphinx
Do i need a specific mobo to overclock a Ryzen 5 1600 af (12 nm)
candid anvil
ccc
latent sphinx
?
ancient pumice
b350, b450, x370, and x470
ancient pumice
idk if the b550 or x570 boards work but for ryzen, just the a series chipsets are the ones you can't oc on
latent sphinx
its fine
wind prairie
best evga 3070 to oc?
cobalt rapids
Do they make a FTW3 3070? If so, that
wind prairie
yeah
ftw3 or ftw3 ultra
and what about 3060ti?
and should i go for strix or ftw3 if i can
and is the ko series good
latent sphinx
pcpp says it does
quick rose
Its wrong
quick rose
If anything its on a boaed by board basis. I know every x570 ive checked doesnt list the 1000 series as compatible in their cpu sypport list but i havent checked them all.
XD k then. Tell that to my motherboard that it doesnt work in.
dull ginkgo
smexiest x570 board's compatibility list for example, no 1000 series support
https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/MEG-X570-UNIFY#support-cpu
quick rose
Mmhmmm
jovial maple
what manufacturer
peak gale
MSI
jovial maple
coolio
jovial maple
go into bios and find the xmp button
jovial maple
if its what i think it looks like it should be in your face or under memory
left bladeBOT
fbiobama#3499 has been warned
peak gale
so confusing
jovial maple
it also could be called docp
quick rose
DOCP is Asus
jovial maple
in bios click the button called oc and youll see the option called a xmp
turn it on
my asus mobo calls it xmp
quick rose
Interesting, they refused to pay Intel to license the XMP name
jovial maple
epic asus
quick rose
Most of em are DOCP unless Intel
jovial maple
stick it to the man
it doesnt even matter, the naming sceme makes no difference
smh intel
sterile flame
Interesting, they refused to pay Intel to license the XMP name
How much does the license cost ❓
sterile flame
I'm in bios and its frozen would it be bad to turn off pc
I changed fan curve as well as increased CPU ratio from 37 to 38
Nvmd is fine
plain needle
upper plaza
Looks good
sterile flame
Nvmd is fine
What was the solution?
I wanna accumulate more strange issues and their solutions
spice terrace
olive portal
is overclocking the cpu cashe speed or ring downbin near the cpu ghz bad or reduce life span? its an i7 10700k
sterile flame
What was the solution?
I turned off my PC and I was fine
sterile flame
Classic
final glade
So what’s a good starting point for 5950x overclocking
I have PBO and dynamic OC switching enabled now
everything else is pretty much on auto
olive portal
so i just got a little bit of errors from overclocking my ram
I DIDNT BLUE SCREEN THO SO ITS ALL GOOD
short spruce
what app is taht
short spruce
I DIDNT BLUE SCREEN THO SO ITS ALL GOOD
dw you will be fine, im sitting at 6Ghz DDR3 with a little bit of errors (500) but still no blue screen so im good 😎😎😎
dull ginkgo
occt
sterile flame
So what’s a good starting point for 5950x overclocking
Manual is basically dead for Zen 3. PBO/PBO Advanced is the way to go. Did you update your BIOS, and Chipset?
sterile flame
Irl performance shows the opposite
sterile flame
I'm trying to help this dude, not give advice to a guy who wants a few extra points.
Go ahead and do what you wanna do.
dull ginkgo
jokes aside, everyone who goes into OCing knows there's little to gain, just internet fame
sterile flame
Degradation is also another concern actually.
PBO is more sensible with those worried about it.
dull ginkgo
and well, you could control degradation much easier with manual
can't go wrong with 1.2v
dull ginkgo
offsets never work
sterile flame
It does
dull ginkgo
Don't think PBO offsets work correctly yet, last I checked they'll just ask for more voltage if you lower the offset
sterile flame
They don't actually I've been screwing with it for days with the latest 2021 BIOS update.
I have a negative 25 offset in curve optimizer. I run cooler and clock a little higher.
dull ginkgo
Dunno, maybe they fixed it alongside agesa 1.2.0
sterile flame
What mobo u got?
dull ginkgo
I don't use PBO
sterile flame
I got a crap ton of AGESA updates. Probably mostly fixes since it's all still marked as beta
dull ginkgo
I always do manual, pbo just doesn't work nicely for me
4.2ghz all core provided me with what seemed to be better lows than when PBO was boosting up to 4.4ghz, it doesn't matter to me in the end as long as the games run normally
and for OCing, always manual for cinebench/3dmark scores
PBO is absolute crap for 3dmark scores whenever I tried
sterile flame
Sounds like you have Zen 2
final glade
yea i updated to latest bios
Only turned on pbo, cpu boost, and dynamic OC
and turned on ram obviously
everything else is set to auto
dark hero mobo
I ran single core cinebench, and it hit about 72C, idles around 30
using kraken z73 AIO with Corsair capellix elite fans
olive portal
Well manual ocs will always be superior to auto ones
tall pelican
not with zen 2 or 3
olive portal
Nah manual still better
robust badger
With Auto he pumps more voltage = more heat
olive portal
Auto voltages are bad just bc there’s a preset if u set a ghz, like 5 = 1.38 5.1 = 1.48 on asus boards that is. Pretty sure there on other boards as well
olive portal
got the cashe pretty close to the cpu ghz without changing voltage
woah just a 140 points off my 5.1ghz with increased cashe speed
maiden orbit
i got that i7 as well, such a beast
tall pelican
Hwmonitor 🤢
olive portal
A monitor 🤢
vapid berry
Hwinfo 
vapid berry
Better get rid of them then
sterile flame
Nah manual still better
PBO is better and you can undervolt within PBO
Intel, yeah sure. Most likely better. PBO evolved really well tho.
short spruce
on what
short spruce
Well manual ocs will always be superior to auto ones
.
final glade
on my 5950x/dark hero setup - so I just leave pbo and cpu boost on
or should I manually OC it
olive portal
Intel, yeah sure. Most likely better. PBO evolved really well tho.
idk bout amd but manual will always be superior unless it learns how to adapt with bluescreens from undevolting then learn
short spruce
pbo voltages are crap
quick rose
If you want every last drop of performance, manual
PBO can do a decent job if you set it up right
olive portal
yea i broke my 5ghz score with manual
quick rose
But manual is always the highest performance
final glade
I just want a modest boost without shortening the lifespan of the chip
quick rose
Then use PBO
final glade
I’m not chasing records
olive portal
final glade
And what’s pbo2?
quick rose
PBO2 = revised PBO for Zen 3
final glade
Got ya, thank you for the help
final glade
Another question - when I enable docp, do I keep fclk on auto?
olive portal
look it up
final glade
or do I set it to half of the ram speed
olive portal
idk
final glade
I did man lol