building-and-recc-chat

[obsidian wigeon]

and it's in a hard to get to spot

[jagged ember]

i spent my time cable managing my case over the course of about a week lol

i couldn't do it all in one sitting

[obsidian wigeon]

new front panel i got has no stickers smh

my amd and nvidia stickers gone

sad times

[mossy venture]

im still debating if its worth taking my build apart to drill the hdd bay out or if i just leave this build mostly in tact and get a new case

and give this build to a cousin or smthn

(aside from gpu, ram and storage)

[full atlas]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/t9N8Q6 how’s this?

[fossil cedar]

Would do this instead
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/k97t3y

[full atlas]

Alr so basically e13t instead of sm2263xt

[fossil cedar]

Mp33 is a better drive

You could save 10$ and grab an asrock challenger 6700 but not worth it imo

[full atlas]

I think the red devil is 470$ at micro center near me so I would probably get that but I couldn’t find it on pcpp

I’m probably not gonna end up building this it was more of just an idea

[fossil cedar]

Yeah only online stores are on pcpp

[full atlas]

I mean the red devil 6700xt in general isn’t on pcpp

If it was I could just add it and do a custom price

[fossil cedar]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/2kJgXL/powercolor-radeon-rx-6700-xt-12-gb-red-devil-video-card-axrx-6700xt-12gbd6-3dheoc

[snow obsidian]

Someone was selling a 3050 they never used for 320 I snagged it, with the coupon it was 290 If it doesnt get delivered, I have buyer protection too

Not the gpu i wanted but had to snag it

[mossy venture]

or 6600 for $300 for better perf

[snow obsidian]

@elfin flame YE I TRIED TO BUT

It uses affirm as a payment plan and affirm wouldnt let me apply

Idk why so i just used zip which evga didnt have

I have a credit card but i prefer payment plans so i can slowly pay it

Idk why affirm didnt wanna let me

40 isnt too much over the normal range for me

But anyways ye i got the gpu down

Haha im saying ive bought things where like it was well over orginal market price

so 40 doesnt hurt that much

I'll just imagine that 40 bucks as lunch in central park

Fair

But whats done is done

[mossy venture]

tf you eating that costs $40

[snow obsidian]

its central park

everything is overpriced

[mossy venture]

nyc...?

[snow obsidian]

yeah

[mossy venture]

fair

good thing im a kid

[snow obsidian]

what settings can i play elden with that idk much about settings

i got the oc edition so if i do overclock does that mean i can run it faster

mhm my friends gonna help with all the technical stuff. slightly faster better than nothing

tysm

[rich void]

Meals for two are often 40+

[upbeat lake]

Do PSUs ever have compatability issues outside of the actual size of them?

[mossy venture]

wdym

[upbeat lake]

Like

[earnest olive]

wattage, lack of connectors

[mossy venture]

when buying a psu you want to consider wattatge and quality

[upbeat lake]

Yes ofc but I already have a psu

[mossy venture]

almost always you want to buy off of the A or B tier list in #cases-psu-and-cooling

[mossy venture]

what is it?

[upbeat lake]

I cant remember exactly and I cba to look but its 850w

[mossy venture]

model is very important

[upbeat lake]

Okay gimme a sec

It's a corsair hx850

[mossy venture]

i believe thats A tier

[upbeat lake]

Okay what exactly does that mean

[mossy venture]

its good

A tier is the highest end of psus

[upbeat lake]

Okay the actual model itself wasnt really the problem here

[mossy venture]

ok, what happened

what were you trying to do

[upbeat lake]

Essentially I'm getting a new pc in like a week or so

[mossy venture]

ok

[upbeat lake]

And I just want to check if I will run into any comparability issues with it

Size isnt an issue I already accounted for that

[mossy venture]

unless youre running a 12900k and 3090 with ocing on that hx850, youre fine

OH

i get it

as in cables?

[upbeat lake]

Yes

Lol

[mossy venture]

afaik you wont have any

[upbeat lake]

Okay epic

I just realised I can just put it on my part list and it will just tell me smh

[mossy venture]

can i see the list?

[upbeat lake]

Yeah gimme a sec

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/4Ct2xs

[mossy venture]

how much of that have you already bought

and how much can you return

[upbeat lake]

Lmao pc nerd moment

[mossy venture]

lmao bad parts moment...?

[upbeat lake]

Everyone disagrees lol

If the list doesnt exactly match ppl get mad

[snow obsidian]

Im prob gonna sell my current ram and get gskill

[mossy venture]

alright so

[upbeat lake]

And I ask them to help they add like another 400 to the budget

[mossy venture]

here are the issues with it

10400f is bad for the price, 12100f is ebtter and cheaper

corsair makes terrible ram that sometimes cant even run xmp

the h510 is overpriced and a literal furnace because it doesnt have a mesh front

[upbeat lake]

Okay english plz

[mossy venture]

the 2060 is $20 cheaper than a 3060 thats 30% better

[upbeat lake]

Its h510 flow which does have a mesh front

[mossy venture]

and a 10400f on a z490 makes no sense

ah didnt see that, so not terrible case but there is def better at the price

[upbeat lake]

Dollars

Not pounds

Different market

[mossy venture]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/zd4HW4

yes, and im looking at the UK market too

[upbeat lake]

Dude can u do me a favour

[mossy venture]

psu is super overkill but i couldnt find a cheaper A tier psu

[upbeat lake]

Literally the only thing I'm not sure on is the motherboard lmao

[mossy venture]

you should be not sure of more than the motherboard

[upbeat lake]

Dude

Like

[mossy venture]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/vsLFf7/msi-b560m-pro-vdh-wifi-micro-atx-lga1200-motherboard-b560m-pro-vdh-wifi better motherboard for the 10400f

[upbeat lake]

Sure it's not the best price to performance or anything

[mossy venture]

understatement of the year

[upbeat lake]

I dont need a wifi built in

Its wasted money

[mossy venture]

if you want the opinion of someone in europe, @fossil cedar

[mossy venture]

it is cheaper than the non wifi version

and is a good motherboard

unless you want a worse motherboard for 10 pounds cheaper https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/VyBhP6/gigabyte-b550m-ds3h-micro-atx-am4-motherboard-b550m-ds3h

[rich void]

Just about any local place? Not talking cheap fast food joints

Are you all not tipping?

[mossy venture]

i go to dinner with my parents and brother and get dinner for $45 and then a $10 tip on top

[rich void]

Where?

[mossy venture]

chilis

[rich void]

Ah

I haven't gone to one of those chains in a while. Might be possible to do that here too idk

[vapid jolt]

I realized the mobo I had was micro atx and I have a atx case will it look funny

[mossy venture]

I use an mitx mobo in an atx case

[vapid jolt]

Can I see it

[mossy venture]

I dont feel like standing up rn

But it doesn't look bad

[vapid jolt]

Do you see the m.2 ssd at all without a heatsink on it and does thermalcpaste come with a cpu cooler

And I'm getting the rest of my parts! Exciting

[mossy venture]

On my mobo, the nvme is behind the gpu

[vapid jolt]

Really?

Not on thos one

But thinking of it you'll barley see it

[hallow glen]

hello, my friend is looking for a (preferably) prebuilt pc for a budget of $1000. any suggestions?

[obsidian wigeon]

I'd suggest a custom build instead

[hallow glen]

yeah ik that

but

it says preferably

[obsidian wigeon]

Yeah, I get that

[hallow glen]

im hoping he will choose custom

[obsidian wigeon]

ah lol

Lemme make a list for you, is it in cad or usd

[hallow glen]

usd

[obsidian wigeon]

ok

[hallow glen]

i will walk him through it if he decides to do custom lol

[obsidian wigeon]

yeah that'd be good

[scarlet rampart]

anyone know a good 16gig stick of ram, i was gonna get the G.SKILL Aegis 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR4 3200 but its out of stock

[obsidian wigeon]

does he need wifi?

[obsidian wigeon]

get gskill ripjaws

they got 3600c16 one for cheap

[scarlet rampart]

alright thanks

[hallow glen]

yeah

wait

i think so

lemme check

[obsidian wigeon]

ok

[scarlet rampart]

https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820231941?Description=gskill ripjaws&cm_re=gskill_ripjaws-_-20-231-941-_-Product&quicklink=true

this one?

[obsidian wigeon]

yep, but that's not exact one tbh

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/jBZzK8/gskill-ripjaws-v-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-f4-3600c16d-16gvkc

look into this one

[hallow glen]

yes to wifi

[obsidian wigeon]

kk

i got a wifi board picked

[hallow glen]

mkay

[hallow glen]

intel or amd?

[obsidian wigeon]

im going intel

it's cheaper

[hallow glen]

k

what cpu? 11400?

[obsidian wigeon]

12400f

it fits into the budget

[hallow glen]

oh wow

12th gen

nicee

[scarlet rampart]

if i wanted to go a lil cheaper would the one i linked be good?

[obsidian wigeon]

yeah i guess

[hallow glen]

this beats my 11600k holy crap

[obsidian wigeon]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bWvPJM

gotta order from different places

but it's definitely worth it

[hallow glen]

cool

wait

6650xt?

what the heck is that

[obsidian wigeon]

it's a refresh of 6600xt

faster by a lil

got better vram and more cores on the gpu

[hallow glen]

mmm

ok

[obsidian wigeon]

3060 is too expensive

they're like around 490 mark

at that point 6700xt is better

but to fit in with the budget, ofc i had to go 6650xt

[hallow glen]

yeah i got a 3060 during the bad times

so

worse price than that

alright now im gonna look over some prebuilts and suggest a few and then try to convince him to go the custom route

[obsidian wigeon]

he for sure won't get this much bang for buck

amd gpus are now at msrp

or very near

normal pricing

[hallow glen]

https://nzxt.com/product/the-starter maybe? 10% off code plus free shipping

[earnest olive]

is that supposed to be surprising lol

[hallow glen]

no but its kinda weird how my friend will have a good pc after having a bad pc for so long

[earnest olive]

ah

[scarlet rampart]

is this a good ram https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232417?Description=3000 ddr4 ram&cm_re=3000_ddr4 ram-_-20-232-417-_-Product

[hallow glen]

this one is better for a bit more https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820231941?Description=gskill ripjaws&cm_re=gskill_ripjaws-_-20-231-941-_-Product&quicklink=true

[scarlet rampart]

it has to be 55$ or below

[hallow glen]

hmm

[hallow glen]

https://bit.ly/3Gs1JrJ this one is 55 bucks with 5 bucks off using code

[obsidian wigeon]

ummm, no

[hallow glen]

mkay

so

what

i gotta give a comparison

[obsidian wigeon]

it's got worse cpu and gpu

worse case

likely worse ram

[hallow glen]

ik

but

i have to give him a good comparison with bost

both

so i need good prebuilt too

[obsidian wigeon]

ah

ones on newegg should be ok

[hallow glen]

ok

highest rating one is this https://www.newegg.com/hp-pavilion-tg01-gaming-entertainment/p/1VK-001E-4DPT7?Item=9SIAKKBGRG4919&Description=gaming pc&cm_re=gaming_pc-_-1VK-001E-4DPT7-_-Product&quicklink=true

[green egret]

Hey I have a td500 mesh case and I want an awesome rgb setup clean as can be without breaking the bank all white preferred. My gpu is an aorus gigabyte and it’s not white though. My cpu is an i5-12400f and I got vulcan white ram rgb

I’m having trouble deciding on what cooler to get and case fans

[hallow glen]

water or air

[green egret]

Any help would be appreciated

Haven’t decided. Would rather have air

[hallow glen]

k

whgat color?

[green egret]

Was thinking on halo type fan for rear exhaust but also not sure

White

Please

[hallow glen]

ok

budget?

[green egret]

Honestly not sure just depends

[hallow glen]

ok

[stoic island]

@green egret the white freezer 34 duo might be nice

Fan wise, I say you don't need an extra fan

Nice to have but not a need

[hallow glen]

i was gonna recommend either the se-224-xt or the gammax 400

idk if those are good

[stoic island]

Meh, doesn't hurt to get a slightly better cooler than that

20$ tier coolers vs 50$ tier coolers

[hallow glen]

yeah but for a 12400?

seems kinda overkil

[stoic island]

No pl it can still draw 140w

It's nice to have

[hallow glen]

m

ok

so listen to 1111 waka

or 2222 now?

idk

[green egret]

I like the se-244-xt for rgb and the freezer 34 looks really nice but how would i make the rest of the case stand out rgb wise

[hallow glen]

oh you want rgb fans

like everywhere?

the thing already has them

[stoic island]

Ye

More rgb won't make much of an impact

Could do vetroo v5 for rgb

[hallow glen]

I recommend this one i have it

[still roost]

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[stoic island]

Bot doesn't like 3+ links

[green egret]

#build-pics message I want something like this but in a td500 mesh case

[stoic island]

Could do what bleach did, extra LEDs for lighting if you want
https://pcpartpicker.com/b/v9vWGX

[green egret]

Yeah that looks great

I can’t tell if the water cooler would look better or an air cooler even the non-rgb you mentioned first looked great and so did the other one that door knob recommended

So far the freezer 34 and the se-244-xt are my favorites

[little osprey]

Anybody remember the Titan z?

[green egret]

Either that or ID cooling zoom flow

240

I’m not in a rush to buy anything right away because 12400f comes with a stock fan but I need help with the rest of my rgb. I did just buy it from Newegg though

[little osprey]

amd better

Any AMD CPU they have always been better in my experience less issues faster better over clocking List goes on

[green egret]

@stoic island @hallow glen thank you guys for your suggestions

[hallow glen]

🙂

[green egret]

What would you suggest I do for the back exhaust fan? Is coolermaster mf halo ok?

I’m getting confused and don’t want to look messy on my build I need it to stay clean looking.

[little osprey]

Cooler masters are great they last a long time and move a decent bit of air

[green egret]

So I’m definitely getting led strips

[little osprey]

I would recommend those or thermaltake

[green egret]

And was thinking if I get an aio that I would mount it to the inside front of the case and take the fans off and use them as exhaust fans on top

But if I don’t do that idk what to put on the inside near the front intake

[little osprey]

mounting the AIO for best performance is on top

[obsidian wigeon]

um

for fans i recommend arctic p12

they come in many forms

white, black

rgb or argb in both colors

if you wanna pay noctua price, get phanteks t30

[little osprey]

what you really have to worry about is the amount of air they move

Especialy if bein mounted to a radiator

I wouldn’t really be worrying about aesthetic

[obsidian wigeon]

arctic p12 performs very close like a12x25 from noctua

but for a fraction of the price

[green egret]

https://pcpartpicker.com/b/xPMcCJ so this guy has my exact case and gpu… and looks like my cpu as well. How could I improve on the look of that? Rgb wise? I’m going to add a strip on the inside of it but I want there to be more rgb where that black box thing is

@obsidian wigeon I don’t suspect my case to overheat too bad do you? I really care abt the look and aesthetic the most right now so I’m not worried abt it overheating. I know p12 makes rgb but are there other quiet and budget friendly fans that have better rgb?

[obsidian wigeon]

not any that i know tbh

p12 is the best value for what it offers

[earnest olive]

td500 mesh has pretty good airflow

I stuck a 3080 and a 3070 inside a td500 mesh at the same time and temps were fine

don't worry about airflow in a td500 mesh

[obsidian wigeon]

^

you can basically get any fans you like

it won't matter too much

as long as you don't cheap out so much

[earnest olive]

the stock fans are fine

[obsidian wigeon]

ye

[green egret]

Aesthetically speaking I’m trying to figure out the perfect setup. Ill white it out no matter what: either go all out on rgb with aio, or mix it up and do non rgb and rgb with a fan cooler. Not rly sure. I want something that people don’t have so I want it to look unique and not poster board

Or maybe even white and black but idk

I just don’t want it to look like everyone else’s but I still want it to clean it up a bit, use white sleeve cables or whatever

Just ideas for now

Going to use stock cooler for a min until I get everything

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Yg6C8r here’s what I got for now. I already ordered the cpu from Newegg

[winter marsh]

I recycle case fans all day mixing leds with rgb

I actually purchased a used 5600X and shoved it under a AMD Wraith Prism to get started

It’s a mess in progress

[vague oracle]

Ok so, I’m going to be going away for college this August and I’m kind of wanting to downsize my PC to either microATX or miniITX. Personally I kinda want ITX better but I just want something smaller than what I have now. This is my current build and I’m wondering what would be the best plan of action https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gQjmC6

I’m definitely buying a 1TB P31 on top of the parts needed to go ITX/mATX. Budget I’m working with should be around 7-800

I’m thinking something like this https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8cZh78

Still kinda deciding mobo wise

Personally trying to avoid Gigabyte tho

[final void]

Can anyone gimme a good parts list for a $2k budget PC (Main use will be editing/rendering/school and a bit gaming) tyty

[little osprey]

$290 case!1!

Oh jonsbo

Worth

[fossil cedar]

What's up?

[unborn mesa]

I got same cpu and ram

[mossy venture]

Someone made a stupid build and wouldn't listen to me bc im not in Europe, but whatever

If they want to be stupid they can be stupid

H510, 10400f on a z490, 2060 new

850w psu

Oh also corsair ram

[mossy venture]

They won't listen

Don't try

[cyan ravine]

Ok I won't

[mossy venture]

Lol

[cyan ravine]

Didn't like the way you were being treated tho

[mossy venture]

Happens more than you'd think idrc about it, just don't get the point of being stubborn when you know you don't know much about what you're talking about

If they want to be stupid they can be stupid

No skin off our backs

[cyan ravine]

I think the most questionable part about it is he comes in here for "PC nerd" advice but shoots it down

Lol

[mossy venture]

I'll never understand asking for advice when you're actually asking for people to agree with you

[cyan ravine]

Apparently everyone agrees with him so 🤷 😂

[fossil cedar]

Classic

[obsidian wigeon]

The usual "i know it better than you, stop helping me"

[vague oracle]

Because that case can fit a 360 rad

[mossy venture]

Why a $290 case when you can buy a $1127 p400s

[vague oracle]

…is it actually 1127?

[mossy venture]

For some reason

[vague oracle]

Damn

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Q9vZxr/phanteks-eclipse-p400s-tempered-glass-atx-mid-tower-case-ph-ec416pstg_bw

[unborn mesa]

Looks like my next case

[vague oracle]

But like actually tho any opinions on this? I already have the cpu, cooler, gpu, and storage https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8cZh78

[unborn mesa]

Imo thats. Decent

[mossy venture]

Assuming you want the ram to be rgb?

[unborn mesa]

If its the same as the one i saw earlier

[cyan ravine]

Can you fit a hdd into that case?

[fossil cedar]

Ehh you can fit a 280 in nr200/ssupd meshilicious

[vague oracle]

I already have a 360 aio so I don’t want to buy a new cooler

[mossy venture]

Could get this https://pcpartpicker.com/product/jxH8TW/gskill-trident-z-rgb-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-f4-3600c16d-32gtzrc

[fossil cedar]

Eh but if you get cheaper case then you have 2 aios for same price

[vague oracle]

True, but like what will I do with a second AIO?

[mossy venture]

Could sell it

[vague oracle]

Not possible because somehow some of the insulation on one of the wires melted

[mossy venture]

That doesn't sound safe

[vague oracle]

It’s safe enough now because I put some heat shrink on it but I doubt it would have any resale value

[fossil cedar]

Rma it

[vague oracle]

I might just give the cooler to my dad if I go down the cheap case, new cooler route

How much performance would I lose from going 360 to 280?

[cyan ravine]

Not much if anything at all

140mm fans are a lot more effective

[mossy venture]

280 is closer to 360 than 240

And if you don't care about noise, clc 280 is $62

Can replace the fans

[fossil cedar]

Not much

@vague oracle you want rgb ram or do you mind?

[vague oracle]

I don’t really care

Actually I’d probably prefer no rgb

[fossil cedar]

Cool

[vague oracle]

College dorm so I kind of want it to be no rgb

[fossil cedar]

Think you would oc it at all?

Bed there's ballistix for 170

[vague oracle]

PBO would be definitely be on

[fossil cedar]

Otherwise just get g skill for 150

[fossil cedar]

Meant ram oc

[vague oracle]

I don’t think I’ll have time to mess around with it

[fossil cedar]

Also idk if you'll fit hdds in most sfx cases @vague oracle

[cyan ravine]

That's what I was wondering

Lol

[vague oracle]

I’m probably just not going to use it

[fossil cedar]

Ah okay

[vague oracle]

It was mostly used for mass storage for media, games and stuff. Not really that important

Do you have suggestions for a mobo? That was the main thing I was not sure of

Only thing is I need at least 4 USB ports

[mossy venture]

Any requirement for # of nvme slots?

[fossil cedar]

@vague oracle https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HPPRVw

Although you'll need to double check rad clearance with that gpu

Might need to go evga clc 280 and replace fans with p14s

[vague oracle]

How big is the difference between the clc 280 and freezer II?

[fossil cedar]

If you can go arctic do arctic imo the offset mount + thicker rad is worth

But rad might be too thick

[vague oracle]

Also, probably not going to do it, but about how much would it cost to put together a custom loop for it

[fossil cedar]

Mmm you're looking at 400 probs

Custom loops just aren't financially worth it

[vague oracle]

Ahh ok, nah not worth it

What’s the difference between the NR200 and NR200P?

[fossil cedar]

Nr200p has a mesh side panel and a side glass panel that you choose between

So unless you're going for the h510 elite experience just get the nr200

Plus the mesh gives a bit of extra depth

Well "mesh"

More like the h510 flow holes in metal style

[vague oracle]

So NR200 is the way to go?

[obsidian wigeon]

ye

[green egret]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cH6C8r will this motherboard have enough argb pins/ fan pins for my build?

And if you run out is there a way around it

[fossil cedar]

It should, i wouldn't buy a cooler master aio tho

[green egret]

Any reason why?

[obsidian wigeon]

It's meh

[green egret]

What about ID zoomflow?

My cpu is a 12400f. Supposedly not supposed to get that hot

[obsidian wigeon]

honestly you don't need an aio at all

[green egret]

@fossil cedar @obsidian wigeon what should I get to keep the all white

[obsidian wigeon]

just get a white air cooler with rgb

[green egret]

Yeah I know lol

[obsidian wigeon]

there's se-224xt white

[green egret]

That looked good

What abt the rest of my comp then.. I want it rgb

[obsidian wigeon]

and if you run out of rgb headers

you can always get a hub

[green egret]

K

[obsidian wigeon]

the rest of the build is decent

[green egret]

I’m planning on reselling it in the future

[obsidian wigeon]

fan i'd recommend arctic p12 white argb

[green egret]

That’s why I want the rgb

[obsidian wigeon]

or stick with the halo fan

[green egret]

For people to be like ahhhhp

[green egret]

I like the halo

But I was thinking of getting a 3-pack of p12 white rgb

It looks very chill

[obsidian wigeon]

it's up to you really

the case as is is good enough

[green egret]

Yeah I mean I guess the p12 chill vibes might work

I kinda like chill vibes

[vague oracle]

Woah, you can fit a push pull 280 in a NR200

Except I don’t think a Freezer II is the way to go because the tubes are very stiff by the pump block

EK-AIO it is, mostly because of the side mounted tubes

[little osprey]

The tu150 would be epic if it had good aio compatibility

[vague oracle]

I just found out now there’s a ITX version of the fractal torrent

Ehh actually maybe not a good idea, forgot about the bottom mount 280 AIOs

Front only accepts 240s

[fossil cedar]

Would do this
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wjPRVw

[fossil cedar]

Ohh probably

Or evga clc with arctic p12s

[vague oracle]

CLC also has top mounted tubes

Don’t want to gamble if they are too stiff or not

[fossil cedar]

"itx"

Ahh

Go ek 280 then ye

[vague oracle]

Would it be worth slapping on P12s onto it?

Actually yeah because I don’t want the RGB fans showing through the “mesh”

[desert gulch]

Imagine having to update a b660 bios for a 12400f 😂

[green egret]

Ok I was just abt to ask this question ..

[desert gulch]

It's a super high chance you won't need to

[green egret]

Should I just get the gigabyte b660 wifi instead?

[desert gulch]

Gaming ax?

[green egret]

Idk which is better

Yea

[desert gulch]

Both are great

Just depends on which is cheaper and stuff

[green egret]

Same price

[desert gulch]

May as well grab it tbh

Full ATX too which gives you a little more expansion room

[green egret]

It’s better than the msi?

Expansion room for what

[desert gulch]

Are you talking about the b660m or non m gaming ax?

[green egret]

Non m

[desert gulch]

Yeah it's just another pcie slot so if you ever needed it, it's there

But they're both great boards

It's not like you'll notice any performance difference with the 12400f by going for one or the other

[green egret]

The gigabyte is actually. $10 more not a big deal

[vague oracle]

Is there any info on when the P41 is supposed to come out?

[desert gulch]

Idk

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09VN131MP/

This would also be worth looking in to

Its basically just a smaller version of the full ATX b660 gaming ax

[green egret]

I should update bios anyways though right?? I didn’t update my z490 bios and I was getting game stutters.. I know that’s ram stuff

[green egret]

Oh wow only $119 so that mean the msi is better since it’s $159?

[desert gulch]

That boards $149

Not $119

[green egret]

Oh

Idk if I like UD

It’s the cheapest version

Prettt sure

[fossil cedar]

The ek basic aio should be fine instead of rgb

[fossil cedar]

It's a false positive @green egret

[green egret]

What you mean lol

[desert gulch]

Nah it's possible

Super slight chance but still possible

[green egret]

But shouldn’t I update bios anyways??

[desert gulch]

Not if it doesn't need it

[green egret]

I didn’t do it on my first build and had game stutters

[desert gulch]

It won't cause game stutters usually

[vague oracle]

Doesn’t the basic perform worse than the RGB?

[green egret]

Well idk man I tried everything to fix them except updating bios

And nothing worked

I have a z490 gaming X gigabyte and tforce vulcan 3200 ram.. i5-10600k

I know the mobo can’t xmp but it’s running at like 2400 I think and stuttering a lot during gameplay. And if I xmp’d it the whole screen would stutter even more just on desktop not running anything then it would shut down

[desert gulch]

That Mobo can totally xmp

Hell even the h510 could xmp iirc

[fossil cedar]

Pc part picker is showing a false positive, the board will be shipped with the right version

[fossil cedar]

Tis not,non k cpus dropped with b660s

[green egret]

If you look at specifications it says for i5 it supports up to 2600

[fossil cedar]

Uh not sure tbh shouldn't be a huge diff tho

[fossil cedar]

Nope it support 3200cl16 easily, if it doesn't do 2600mhz then it's defective that's all that means

[green egret]

@fossil cedar @desert gulch

[vague oracle]

It says it supports 3200 literally right above what you circled

[green egret]

Yeah but that’s for i9/i7

[green egret]

Look at the top

[green egret]

I have an i5

I think my ram is running at 2666

But have in game stutters

Idk why

I know it’s the ram though bc if xmp to 3200 the whole system starts to stutter and shuts down with no Apps open

[green egret]

Am I wrong?

[vague oracle]

That 2666 means JEDEC speeds, if you enable XMP it is able to run 3200

Also for the love of god, dont spam ping me

[desert gulch]

Two steppings

For 12400f

[jagged ember]

badly communicated

you were still able to turn on xmp, you said it yourself

[green egret]

It crashed my computer

And what about that screen shot I have an i5

[jagged ember]

are you sure it wasn't windows install issue

[green egret]

It says 3200 for i7 and i9

[jagged ember]

yes

like I said

it's badly communicated lol

[green egret]

Am I reading it wrong or what

Oh

[fossil cedar]

That's incorrect information

[green egret]

I thought you said I’m badly communicating

[jagged ember]

if you look online people have run i5 with xmp on

[green egret]

My bad

[fossil cedar]

Steppings?

[green egret]

The windows runs fine

[fossil cedar]

Then you have faulty ram

[green egret]

Ok

[jagged ember]

assuming it's not windows or anything else

[green egret]

I’m going to mem test it

Later

Also I’m running 1440 p

[jagged ember]

I believe occt ram test is better

[green egret]

At 144hz

[fossil cedar]

If it stutters at 3200 and it's rated for 3200 there's no need

[green egret]

Ok

I think I ran the OCCT test and it was ok

But it didn’t tell you if there’s any errors it just stress test it

[jagged ember]

that's kinda the whole point

[green egret]

I also wasn’t able to oc my cpu btw that’s why I thought it could be either the ram or the motherboard

And maybe a bios update would fix

[green egret]

Does memtest tell you errors tho

[jagged ember]

if it crashes during xmp on occt stress test then it's unstable and therefore broken

[green egret]

Ok

It actually just crashed my comp without any stress test

In xmp

[jagged ember]

but like Pato said, it should just be faulty ram then

[green egret]

Ok

[fossil cedar]

Uh if you have a 10600k and z490 you have to be able to cpu oc

[green egret]

I can’t oc it.. it shuts down

Like black screen

I heard it’s luck of The draw

I used auto clock

Or maybe it was a blue screen I can’t remember

So is it my motherboard then? Or my cpu or my ram how can I tell….

Oh my gpu

3080 evga

Or is it just bios

[jagged ember]

I thought you tried everything?

[green egret]

Stress tests?

I meant like settings wise

I turned on vsync and adjusted monitor settings

Vsync helped a lot

[still roost]

wakamoly#4570 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[green egret]

Idk if 16gb is enough for 1440p 144hz

Lol why is f p s a bad word

[desert gulch]

yea

C0 and H0

[green egret]

Would you mind telling me what I should try. I possibly didn’t try everything

[jagged ember]

fairly certain it is just the ram

you test that by using another set

[green egret]

I really hope so

[jagged ember]

also, auto settings for oc?

never do that

[green egret]

But palo just said since I have an i5-10600k I should be able to oc the cpu

[desert gulch]

C0 stepping is just dies for higher tier cpu’s that had defects and stuff

[jagged ember]

you should

[green egret]

Idk how to oc it manually

[desert gulch]

“That means C0 stepping chips like ours actually have a total of eight P-cores and eight E-cores, but Intel disables the extra cores to trim it down to a 6+0 design” @fossil cedar

thats from toms hardware

[jagged ember]

10600k is oc capable

[green egret]

A lot of people were telling me that not all of them can overclock though

[jagged ember]

as is the z490

[green egret]

People said it’s luck if you get one that can

[jagged ember]

to a degree yeah

[green egret]

Ok so it doesn’t have to do with my cpu though right?

The stuttering

[jagged ember]

I doubt it very much

just try new ram

[green egret]

Alright I have some coming to me tonight

32gb 3200

[jagged ember]

what brand

what timings?

[green egret]

Tforce delta

[fossil cedar]

Oh auto overclock suck

[fossil cedar]

Wdym by that?

[fossil cedar]

Ahh right but i don't see how that applies to 1240f +.b660 bios's

[green egret]

Idk timing

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/8D3mP6/team-t-force-delta-rgb-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3200-memory-tf4d432g3200hc16cdc01 this is the memory

[desert gulch]

two steppings mean one needs a bios that didnt originally come on b660

i was talking with the guy who manually enters those errors in to pcpp about it

thats what he was saying, and i trust him

P sure its for the C0 stepping that may need it

[fossil cedar]

Iirc b660 boards launched at same time so shouldn't be issue

[desert gulch]

still didnt support one of them

iirc it was C0

I mean we just learned about two dif steppings in like january officially

since most of C0 is just failed 12700 skus probs

you can ask manirelli about it if you want, hes the guy who put that error in there

hes in PCMR, BuildAPc, tech paradise, and LTT

probs in more servers too

[green egret]

Do you have links to tech paradise and LTT

[green egret]

Yeah idk how to manually do it. But I mean auto clock shouldn’t blue screen my computer right

[stoic island]

I kinda doubt it's manual, it's the same error talking about the same (non-existent bios btw) bios on different MSI boards

The bios it says isn't a version on many of the boards

[fossil cedar]

Ehh no auto ocs are a lot of guess work

[little osprey]

Wouldn’t an auto oc theoretically be super easy to execute properly

[obsidian wigeon]

Yes

Only AMD has this solution tho

And for the cpu

An auto oc solution that actually works

[stoic island]

Other than PBO, many auto OC offerings can still cause crashes and some can still damage hardware.

[obsidian wigeon]

The great news is for am5, AMD is gonna put on some auto ram oc stuff

I hope it's decent

Cause if it really is, ooh boy

Fun time

[mossy venture]

That sounds like it'll cause a lot of issues for tech illiterate people

[little osprey]

Fr

Auto oc ram 💀

[mossy venture]

They'll turn it on with their 3200c22 jedec kit and wonder why it won't run 4000c15

Or whatever the equivelant would be for ddr5

[little osprey]

Why is my kit not working? Why is it blue screen? Why is it not booting after auto xmp ?

[obsidian wigeon]

lol

[fossil cedar]

Iirc it's more like auto downclock from rated speeds at idle etc to save power might be remembering wrong tho

[obsidian wigeon]

Hmm

[desert gulch]

Ye I meant that he typed the error in

[stoic island]

Smh tell him to add more details

[desert gulch]

Ask him about it then

Tell him to fix the crappy 12400(f) pricing on pcpp while you're at it

Unless that's been fixed

[ripe spear]

Any thoughts on this case because i am building a small APU system for a friend which he will be using a R5 3400G which he mainly plays just LoL, CS GO and OW which i already got the 3400G for him with a B450 board for 130$ Canadian which i have tested it and it works but again just looking for a slim case that wont break the bank which i was looking at this one since it comes with a 275w PSU and a fully built system using the 3400G uses at most 210w https://www.newegg.com/Black-APEX-DM-387-Micro-ATX-Media-Center-HTPC-Case/p/N82E16811154087

I am still looking around for thin mATX cases just wanted a thought on that one

[mossy venture]

Mx330-x might be what you're looking for

Or -g

[ripe spear]

He wants one that he can put a monitor on top of that is why i am looking at something that thin

If i got lucky with a ITX board for cheap i could of went for something a lot smaller and used a Pico PSU instead

He just wants to rely only on the APU he has no intentions of ever putting inside a dedicated GPU

[mossy venture]

Ye, mx330-x or -g I think are pretty thin, but whatever case works. Not like Temps will be an issue

[ripe spear]

I have seen the MX330-X in person i honestly don't find it to be that thin

Also that is a mid tower

Just found this one which i believe would be better https://www.amazon.ca/InWin-BL040-mATX-Desktop-Black/dp/B0964K2W4R/

[fossil cedar]

Mx330 is mid tower

Mid tower is smaller atx

You want micro atx

[hallow glen]

is the 6650xt better than the 3060?

[fossil cedar]

Yes

[hallow glen]

okl

[fossil cedar]

Something like Thermaltake Versa H18 is what I'd do

[hallow glen]

is it closer to a 3060ti?

[fossil cedar]

Ehh

Yes but 6700xt is closer to 3060 ti

But 5% better

[hallow glen]

oh ok

damn... im researching a build for my friend and hes gonna have a better pc than me for 300 dollars less

crazy

[ripe spear]

Too thick

Also i did mention that a monitor would be on top of the case which is why i am looking at thin/slim cases

[fossil cedar]

Why would you do that :/

[ripe spear]

It is what my friend wants to do which i am not going to tell him how he wants his setup

And i did say in the start of my question that it would be a APU build only so there wont be anything like a dedicated GPU

[green egret]

Will Newegg be having any Memorial Day sales on motherboards or aios?

[vague oracle]

How does the NZXT kraken X63 280mm w/ P12s compare to the EK-AIO D-RGB 280mm?

I think I’m just going to do that, I can get the NZXT kraken X63 for around $75 then just buy P12s to replace the stock fans and run a push pull setup

[stoic island]

It's average so meh

Push pull likely won't do much, normal setup will be fine

It's just standard asetek, not especially nzxt level bad

[fossil cedar]

Also is for itx so push pull not option

[vague oracle]

It is an option, I’ve seen someone do it with the NR200

[fossil cedar]

Really?

[vague oracle]

With the Kraken X63, give me a sec I’ll find it

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HpD2NWaYNfI

Would it make any sense to use F12s in an NR200 as case fans? Not on the AIO rad

[gritty wedge]

I have Asus P5Q Pro Turbo with intel Q9650 - is this ram compatible? https://www.newegg.com/p/0RN-00ZC-000R2

[potent portal]

The Arctic F12? You don't want those in any system with liquid cooling, the pressure isn't as good as the P12 which is what radiators like.

[vague oracle]

I mean as case fans for general airflow, not actually on the rad

[potent portal]

Right. Even when the fans aren't on the rad, the pressure fans are preferred.

Unless it's a rare case of intake P12 on the radiator and F12 exhaust, with equal numbers of both fans

[vague oracle]

Ahh ok thanks

[potent portal]

Yes that should work fine

[strong raft]

F12 is good just w/ 0 resistance, at least that's what I've heard.

[potent portal]

Yeah they're airflow focused, while the P12 is pressure to get through that resistance

If the P12s were on the radiator as exhaust and F12s were intake, there wouldn't be as much pressure in the case to help the P12s

[strong raft]

Yes I know , just saying the F12* are nearly pointless.

[vague oracle]

I was asking about the F12s because I have a 5 pack of them just lying around

[strong raft]

Oh, use em up.

[potent portal]

They're great for air cooling builds

But yeah if that's all you have it's better than nothing

[vague oracle]

I could probably use them as exhaust fans on the top of the NR200

I’m planning for the bottom and side of the case to be intake, and top/back for be exhaust

[unborn zealot]

Hi- Only my 2nd build- Building around a PNY RTX A2000 video card. Any one familiar with it, and its compatibility?

[potent portal]

What do you plan to use it for?

[unborn zealot]

ArchiCAD

3d cad

[potent portal]

Ok it should be pretty good for that it looks like. It's a standard PCIe device so it can go in just about any system, as far as compatibility.

[unborn zealot]

Awesome.. thank you

[alpine viper]

hey guys, i havent been here in a while. I have my own pc and i think i'm okay at choosing parts and whatnot, i want some good opinions on a new build. Its going to be a gaming pc build for my brother which is mostly for fps games such as csgo, valorant, siege, and quite possibly the upcoming Modern Warfare 2. He might do a little bit of streaming once in a while but that is not a main priority. I would most likely have a budget for $2000 but i can go over a bit if better parts are available. I also have a few questions: would a budget of 1000 or 1500 also be viable? are gpu prices going to drop soon? (i havent been looking into the market lately so sorry for my ignorance.) Thank you all in advance.

also if you need any more information from me about the pc uses or anything, just let me know

[potent portal]

Prices on GPUs are getting much better. $2k is a moderately high end build budget again.

[stoic island]

Does the budget include monitor headphones keeb mouse etc?

[alpine viper]

ah i forgot to answer that, and no the peripherals are not in the budget.

the peripherals will be another thing

[potent portal]

Thoughts on RGB?

[stoic island]

aight, 1500$ is also viable, 1000$ not yet easily viable (I want ma 200$ current gen GPUs)

I'll make a lower budget list since I assume falcie be working on a 2000$ list

[alpine viper]

not a priority👍

much thanks you two@potent portal @stoic island

[potent portal]

Hmm, I haven't seen that MP33 Pro before.

[stoic island]

It's a mp33 with slightly higher rated seq speeds, uses 2263xt instead of e13t, still decent

1200$ example list
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nTNRVw

Dunno how to think about the warning now

[alpine viper]

very nice

quick question

[potent portal]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vfkh78

[alpine viper]

is next gen cpus/gpus worth the wait? or just build a pc right now

[potent portal]

Personally I'd say build now. Next gen will still have some issues being all new platforms.

Granted 13th gen intel is technically their second iteration of DDR5 but it's also likely a dead end platform and possibly Ryzen 7000 will beat it anyway.

[alpine viper]

alright, sounds and thanks again you two for your input

[ornate condor]

Amd finally made good cpu locking mechanism lol cpus will not pop up when you try to remove heatsink anymore

and finally theres not stupid fan on chipset on x670 mobos

[potent portal]

Yep, LGA lookin good next gen.

[ornate condor]

fan on chipset is very early 2000s idk why it was on x570 mobos tho

[potent portal]

As above, it was apparently a repurposed CPU I/O die. A hot one at that.

[ornate condor]

chipset can easily cool with passive heatsink lol at least intel does that

[strong raft]

Yea intel has that for 5+ yrs, lol

[potent portal]

To cool a 15W chipset would take a pretty big heatsink, which would require re-engineering a lot of board designs to avoid interference with PCIe devices

[ornate condor]

also x570S mobos dont have it tho

idk why but fan on chipset reminds me early 2000s lol

[potent portal]

X570S was 7nm instead of 14nm

[ornate condor]

reminds me that north bridge fans lol

[cyan ravine]

Oh is that how they got rid of the fan

I just thought they got smarter with the heatsink design

[potent portal]

Yeah, moving to the smaller process dropped it to 9W, which is a lot easier to cool passively

Which means yes, it's a totally different chipset with the same functionality

[cyan ravine]

It really begs the question y tho

Lol

Like even more so than just getting rid of the fan

[potent portal]

Because the mobo vendors complained enough about RMAs over a fan I guess

They only used the old I/O dies to start with to recycle the old ones from previous gen, maybe once they used up that stockpile it was always in the plans to make a new one.

[strong raft]

We just highly dislike tiny (loud) fans.

[upbeat lake]

Can someone in the uk make me a build for 850 with no psu cos I already have one

[cyan ravine]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/ytB8Q6

[upbeat lake]

Ty

[still roost]

CatboyNotLive#3910 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[upbeat lake]

Okay buddy

That's the exact psu I have lol

[cyan ravine]

Well you put it in chat earlier

[upbeat lake]

Ah gg

[potent portal]

@strange epoch I'd suggest cable combs for the 24 pin and 8 pin connectors, it'll make those look much neater than loose cables. Looks great otherwise.

[strange epoch]

Thanks ok

[mossy venture]

So they listen to you

I hate people

Almost like I told them *the stuff they bought is ***

[cyan ravine]

but look at the list

[strong raft]

Perhaps just the 8pins if anything. To me, that 24pin bundle looks pretty clean as is.

[full atlas]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BsTspH how’s this list?

[green egret]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3hqGJM is Newegg having a sale on this motherboard anytime soon for Memorial Day

[green egret]

That’s insane a $34 motherboard?

[full atlas]

Open box at micro center

[green egret]

Oo

[full atlas]

I got a 26$ one there the other day

Not as good of a board but still

[green egret]

Thoughts on msi b660m mortar vs gigabyte b660 gaming x

[mossy venture]

Yeah its hilarious

I appreciate you for that one

[mossy venture]

I'm assuming you got the cpu/mobo at those prices?

If so, great

[mossy venture]

I wouldnt go for that psu

I'd go for the segotep gp 600w

[full atlas]

I’m probably not getting that list but those are prices I could get if I bought it like right now

[little osprey]

w af

[winter marsh]

5800X3D formally installed, but that Arctic II 240mm AIO doesn't fix the case at all

[mossy venture]

A 240 on a 5800x3d is nowhere near enough

[potent portal]

No one here has any inside info into sales. There's only a few that are actually even newegg employees, and they don't deal with that side of things. Mostly PR stuff.

[little osprey]

Which is unfortunate and goes for most discords

Only a select few from PR are actually in the discord for the company and very few are actually active

[green egret]

Oo aright

I’m building a pc this week so was wondering if anywhere had sales.

[little osprey]

Honey 😂

Not a bad option for coupon codes

[mossy venture]

Honeys saved me like $150

And I don't buy that much stuff

[green egret]

Ummmm

Can I use this on a b660 motherboard

How the f is it only $1

[mossy venture]

Das a scam

[green egret]

This is honey app

[mossy venture]

Das a scam or a miss listing

[green egret]

Hahah

Yea I clicked it it’s 59

[mossy venture]

Only storage you're getting for a dollar is a 100gb 15 yo hdd

[potent portal]

More like 100MB 25 year old drive

[little osprey]

Bruh wtf

I have never seen anything like that on honey before

[strong raft]

Hardly worth that even. I paid $44 on a sale a month or 2 ago.

[green egret]

Honey sucks

Besides that

Anyone like the msi b660m mortar mobo

Or gigabyte gaming x

[winter marsh]

@mossy ventureit's never being overclocked btw

[potent portal]

Unless you're using a 12900k or something the only real difference between the 2 is the bios and the MSI board has 2 more sata ports.

[green egret]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JwzzPX I got everything I just don’t know what mobo to get

[potent portal]

What features are important to you in a motherboard?

If you don't know any specific ones I'd recommend this one instead https://pcpartpicker.com/product/KKbTwP/msi-pro-b660m-a-ddr4-micro-atx-lga1700-motherboard-pro-b660m-a-ddr4

That particular board has been tested to work perfectly even with a 12900k with its factory settings.

And the factory settings from MSI include bumps in the power limit.

[winter marsh]

Howdy ho

[potent portal]

Hi Mr Hanky

[winter marsh]

After work I am gonna benchmark my 3800X3D vs 5600X vs 3600XT

Great not many people remember a talking piece of crap

Or South Park unless they watched Post COVID

Mr Hanky is basically animated human waste

Originally I was upgrading to a 5600X from a 3600XT but then the 5800X3D was released

My room is sort of the Computer room, so I run gaming benchmarks when I get new hardware

[potent portal]

Fun stuff

Are you doing just 1080p testing or 1440p/4k also?

[winter marsh]

,1080p 144mhz is my limit and it's the gpu that's winning

[strong raft]

144hz also sounds like a waste of a 5800X3D

[frank stirrup]

U dont need a 1440p monitor to test 1440p

[potent portal]

Not necessarily a waste, since esports games the target fps is usually double your frame rate

[frank stirrup]

Or a 360hz monitor to test framerates

[potent portal]

Downscaling OP

[dapper sapphire]

Anybody know an entry level gaming PC to build? My budget will be ~$700 (without graphics card, that’ll be later). I already built an intel one, but I wanna try AMD if possible, otherwise, cheapest option is good too. I know almost nothing about AMD cpu’s and motherboards

[fossil cedar]

What do you mean? 700 now and gpu later? Because you can build a 700$ pc with a decent gpu nowadays

[dapper sapphire]

Ohh wait seriously?? I did mean 700 now and gpu later, but if it can be $700 with a gpu, that would be great tbh

[fossil cedar]

Assuming you're in the US anyway?

And not talking like 700 cad or something

[dapper sapphire]

Yeah USD

[fossil cedar]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nKhspH

[dapper sapphire]

thank man, much appreciated!

[fossil cedar]

Np

[desert gulch]

H610 only supports single channel ram

[earnest olive]

nope

that was a mistake on the slide

it's dual channel, one dimm per channel

[analog pulsar]

okay question would you go i9 12900k or ryzen 9 5950x amd has more threads while intel is newer and intel is $600 while amd is $550

[obsidian wigeon]

12900k

go for it

[potent portal]

If gaming, 12900k. If rendering or other all core workloads, 5950X.

At this point we are only about 4 months away from AM5 anyway though

[obsidian wigeon]

Kenzie is obviously a gamer lel

But yeah, it's pretty close

[strong raft]

If gaming, no love for that hyped up 5800X3D?

[obsidian wigeon]

No

Dead end platform

At least alder lake is on new socket

It's too late for AMD

[frank stirrup]

Amd did say am4 isnt dead yet in the recent event

[obsidian wigeon]

Is there gonna be another refresh?

I better hope not

[frank stirrup]

Probably

[strong raft]

It basically is, or at least it's an obsolete design. Every time I see the underside of an AM4 cpu I just think of a P4. haha

[obsidian wigeon]

oof

lmao

More refresh

[frank stirrup]

Im waiting for zen3++++

[obsidian wigeon]

But am4 is still gonna be ded tbh

Once am5 comes

[frank stirrup]

Afaik am4 gonna remain lower end offering while am5 takes over higher end

[strong raft]

5600X or above would however be a decent value for those with a compatible mobo upgrading from a 1600 or w/e.

[obsidian wigeon]

Problem is most usually has a320

They cheap out a ton on mobo

a320 won't handle 5600x that well

[frank stirrup]

a series boards usually arent worth it

[obsidian wigeon]

a320 also lacked xmp i think

[flint sapphire]

Man that 5800x3d is nice

[obsidian wigeon]

don't do it

[flint sapphire]

👀

Foxy I already own it

Lol

Gpu isn’t here but everything else works

[strong raft]

Was it $450ish or what?

[flint sapphire]

Yeah 450 day one

[frank stirrup]

Tbh i might buy 5800x3d next year

[flint sapphire]

Lol was a 40% upgrade gaming wise

Already have the platform might aswell

[strong raft]

100+% more $ for 40% more perf, Love it. Them 1% lows probably went up a ton though

[frank stirrup]

Itll be more for me maybe since ill be upgrading from a r5 3600x

[flint sapphire]

Yeah that was off a 3800x

It was a insane bump that I honestly didn’t expect

Kinda have crap ram so that cache helped out a ton

[strong raft]

Ya know I see even the 5600X beating 3800X in a quite a bit too, so imagine X3D goes pretty good.

[desert gulch]

Oh rip

Sassy said it was smh

[potent portal]

No it does xmp, it just doesn't "officially" go above 3200. Mobo vendors tended to ignore that.

[obsidian wigeon]

hm

ok

that's interesting

[frank stirrup]

Lol mobo vendors ignoring guidelines is becoming common with amd

[flint sapphire]

In some rare cases @frank stirrup I saw a 120% bump

[frank stirrup]

Sheeeeeeee

Darvan do u still have ur 3800x?

[flint sapphire]

Yeah it’s just sitting in my part closet

[desert gulch]

Guideline: Make a half decent board
Asrock: did some say DS3H?

[flint sapphire]

But taichi tho

It’s got the moving thing

[desert gulch]

😲

[flint sapphire]

[frank stirrup]

Ok now go get black ops cold war and test both and tell me the improvement reeee

[flint sapphire]

Lol

[frank stirrup]

Asrock?

[flint sapphire]

I can just give you the current performance and you can compare to your own

[frank stirrup]

Unacceptable

I need new vs old reee

[flint sapphire]

[obsidian wigeon]

isn't ds3h gigabyte?

it's not asrock

[frank stirrup]

Yeah

[desert gulch]

Oh yeah you right

[flint sapphire]

Warzone 1440p close to maxed I went from like 70-90 to 100-160 that good enough?

[desert gulch]

I'm thinking of asrock b660 low end 💀

Idk why

I'm kinda out of it rn

Got stuck up in the hills and barely got out

[frank stirrup]

No because i need 1080p numbers

[desert gulch]

And no, it wasn't a skill issue

[frank stirrup]

Skill issue

[flint sapphire]

God fine I’ll test on my 1080

I’ll dm you with results when I get home

[desert gulch]

How is this a skill issue

[flint sapphire]

Should’ve gotten the amd bike

[desert gulch]

Yes

It would've broke halfway down tbh

[flint sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/riding-bike-failarmy-fall-lose-balance-fall-off-bike-gif-18863135

[desert gulch]

Literally

[frank stirrup]

Thanks

[flint sapphire]

I’m not changing the cpu out tho, dark rock pro 4 is a pain in the butt to reinstall

[frank stirrup]

Yeah makes sense

[earnest olive]

but ds3h is gigabyte 👀

[desert gulch]

Yes ik 😭

I forgor for a sec 💀

[frank stirrup]

noob

[earnest olive]

put some respect on the asrock b450 pro4

that was my favorite budget board

I bought like 5

[desert gulch]

💀

[earnest olive]

cheapest atx board that could reliably drive a 3700x + 3600mhz ram and have argb header

and good amount of fan headers

cough b450m ds3h with 1 fan header

[flint sapphire]

But the taichi has a moving thing that isn’t a fan 👀

So therefor buy

[earnest olive]

me with my midrange asrock b550 with post code watching people pay more for the b550 strix-f with less features

👼

[potent portal]

laughs in X470 board that supports every Ryzen CPU and has all the features most people would want

I mean what

[earnest olive]

you only have pcie 3 if you were going to run an rx 6500xt!

checkmate

[potent portal]

You mean if I wanted to torture myself

[desert gulch]

Doubt