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little osprey
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Asus PRIME Z690-P WIFI D4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard

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works for the i5-12600K right

fossil cedar
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ofc you are <3 but they don know you

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yes everything in the list is compatible

earnest olive
fossil cedar
little osprey
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ok this is the build i bought

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I already have a 6600 XT gpu so i can use it for a while,, until it sells

desert gulch
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Looks like a pretty build

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Be sure to post in #build-pics when finished so we can see it!

mossy venture
viral ore
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obv a virus

mossy venture
desert gulch
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Sus

fossil cedar
mossy venture
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it claims to be part of winzip

fossil cedar
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And p400a would save 55$

fossil cedar
mossy venture
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deleted it

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found the right thing anyways

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seemed super sus anyways

desert gulch
mossy venture
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mmm

desert gulch
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xD

little osprey
fossil cedar
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Ah okay

little osprey
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😤 rip my super colorful useless fans

fossil cedar
little osprey
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ye

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Bra newegg lost my ram

analog hearth
desert gulch
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Asking for the server

little osprey
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literally delivered it to a whole other state

analog hearth
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don’t know

little osprey
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MEMPHIS, TN - USA

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it was supposed to come to florida 💀

mossy venture
little osprey
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now i have to wait like 2 weeks for a response

little osprey
mossy venture
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i see

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F

desert gulch
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oh its hdl

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dhl

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its already lost

little osprey
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😂

desert gulch
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lol itll probs be there at some point

little osprey
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yeah maybe a month or two

desert gulch
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eh a little optimistic

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jk

analog hearth
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I’ve never even heard of DHL

desert gulch
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good

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see if you can keep it that way

little osprey
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now i'm broke

desert gulch
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Life of a PC gamer

little osprey
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right

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im supposed to be saving up for a car as well

desert gulch
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Lol yeah

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Car prices rn are crazy

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Im waiting for fuel prices to keep going up, should help V8 market

mossy venture
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i just got my first car

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a toyota camry with 272k miles on it

little osprey
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why

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wtf

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272k miles

mossy venture
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and i only have to pay to replace the ABS module and smthn with the speedometer

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gonna cost like 1.5k total, i also have to paint some doors

analog hearth
little osprey
analog hearth
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just Toyota things

mossy venture
little osprey
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i'm thinking a 350z

desert gulch
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My trucks starter has more miles than the engine itself 💀

analog hearth
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PSA don’t get a Mk3 Focus

little osprey
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876$ pending

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and knowing newegg probably won't get it till 2 weeks

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later

mossy venture
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@fossil cedar 6900xt is in stock on amd

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for US

fossil cedar
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Still?sheesh

mossy venture
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i doubt its EU too, but its definitely getting to the point where itll be bigger drops for yall

desert gulch
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Ref?

mossy venture
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yeah

desert gulch
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what price?

mossy venture
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1k, so basically what 6900xts go for when on sale

desert gulch
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yeah not bad at all

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not sure how good cooler is on ref tho

mossy venture
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vram gets hot

desert gulch
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yea

fossil cedar
zenith flicker
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Is this compatible

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And fit

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Along with - add additional fans from Amazon,

  • Lian Li UNI Fan SL120 3 Pack White - with Controller (ARGB 120mm LED PWM Daisy-Chain)
    and
  • Lian Li UNI Fan SL140 RGB x1 140mm Revolutionized Daisy-Chain ARGB Fan - Black
mossy venture
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please dont buy most of that

zenith flicker
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What’s wrong with it

mossy venture
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everything

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whats your budget?

zenith flicker
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Unlimited

mossy venture
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everyone has a budget

zenith flicker
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Spend whatever as long as it is great

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Good for streaming, gaming, and making YouTube videos

mossy venture
zenith flicker
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So is this ^ better then mine?

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Or similar

mossy venture
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better and similar

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overall perf is similar

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but quality of parts is better

zenith flicker
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Ok

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Well thank you

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I’m looking to buy soon

little osprey
spice crown
little osprey
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not really

desert gulch
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Thats a good price for it

desert gulch
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its a z490 10600k 3060ti build

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thats a nice price for it tbh

little osprey
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512gb ssd

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💀

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1200$ build

desert gulch
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that can be upgraded so easy lol

desert gulch
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for a epic gpug unit too

potent portal
desert gulch
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^

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and most of the 3060ti builds have a 10400f or maybe 11400f

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a 10600k and z490 is added value

little osprey
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i guess so

potent portal
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Yeah Z490 isn't bad at all, and storage is cheap and easy

desert gulch
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nice z490 too

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z490p

little osprey
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brick it

potent portal
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The hyper 212 black is a good cooler for this too

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Not like the ones that give a 120mm AIO just to say "liquid cooling"

mossy venture
potent portal
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Yeah but then you're getting non-k processor, but at least it's B560

mossy venture
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eh, with neweggs history of open box stuff recently

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id pay $10 more for a slightly worse cpu and non open box

potent portal
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Yeah it comes down to preference and if you want to take a chance

little osprey
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what's good rgb ram 2x16

mossy venture
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tridentz

spice crown
potent portal
little osprey
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no clue wtf they are but they sound goofy

little osprey
potent portal
cyan ravine
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Ah the NC kit

little osprey
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ok

cyan ravine
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If you're going for overclocking ram oloy is a decent choice actually

little osprey
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are the neo series good for trident z

stoic island
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Depends on the sticks in general tbh

little osprey
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i don't wanna overclock

cyan ravine
stoic island
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If it's 3600c18 no matter what brand it's bad

little osprey
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i'm going to brick my sh up

stoic island
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If it's 3600c14 no matter what brand it's good

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Anyways, just go by spec in general

spice crown
little osprey
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yo what's the difference between I7-12700KF AND F

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K means it is unlocked (you can overclock it) and F means there is no integrated graphics

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it's that a good or bad thing

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it’s not good or bad it just depends on what you want

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cause why is the KF cheaper

mossy venture
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if its the same/similar price, get the 12700k

little osprey
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i don't wanna overclock

mossy venture
little osprey
mossy venture
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you dont have to overclock if you get a k cpu

little osprey
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get the cheapest one with K on it

mossy venture
little osprey
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Can you google some of this

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Please

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This is easily accessible on google

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so which should i get

cyan ravine
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Are you gonna overclock the CPU

little osprey
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o

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the top item model is cut off

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no

cyan ravine
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If not look up the 12700/12700F and save a few $

mossy venture
mossy venture
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nvm

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i was wrong

little osprey
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ok so the k

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got it

mossy venture
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instead of the one that you screen shotted

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since its cheaper

cyan ravine
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Yeah it's just 12600K that has the e core count increase

mossy venture
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yeah

little osprey
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fo sure

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image took so long to send

cyan ravine
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Intel's website takin long to load too

little osprey
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But yes cores are the same

desert gulch
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12700 will perform exactly equal with a stock 12700k

little osprey
cyan ravine
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Server crash at 5 people

little osprey
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😂

cyan ravine
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The guy monitoring the server just spilt his coffee

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Lol

little osprey
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great

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ok this is my build

mossy venture
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a lot of this still hurts me, but if youre set on asthetics its prolly the best youll get

little osprey
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what hurts

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you the most

mossy venture
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aio, ram

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case

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also werent you gonna get the rmx?

little osprey
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trident z?

mossy venture
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oh i misreda the ram

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thought it was 3200c16

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nvm ram is fine

cyan ravine
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The fact it's a Z690 and K but you won't be overclocking is also kind of a waste

mossy venture
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3200c16 at that price would be terrible lol

mossy venture
untold beacon
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Alright

mossy venture
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could do a b660 and a 12700f easily

untold beacon
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Quick question

little osprey
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everyone tells me over clocking is very bad

cyan ravine
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Then you could put more money to the gpu

mossy venture
little osprey
untold beacon
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How do I access the setup log files when I first boot up my pc for windows

little osprey
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and i have a p400a case to temporarily stay with

cyan ravine
desert gulch
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Overclocking (other than xmp) generally isn't worth it for most casual gamers

mossy venture
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didnt pato explain a way for you to have the temps inside the case with a mini tablet

little osprey
desert gulch
little osprey
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what do i need for over clocking

desert gulch
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Increased power and noise

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Typically

cyan ravine
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True

little osprey
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since everyone wants me to overclock this wasted build

mossy venture
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bruh

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we gave an alternative to ocing

little osprey
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what's ocing

mossy venture
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12700f and a b660 would perform the same to you

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overclocking

little osprey
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que

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so 12700k no?

mossy venture
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12700f and b660 to save money, since youre not ocing

little osprey
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what is ocing

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i'm going to oc

desert gulch
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Overclocking

mossy venture
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bro

little osprey
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yes

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i'll oc

mossy venture
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i just answered that

little osprey
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do i keep my build if i oc

little osprey
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wait i don't understand is my build good for oc or no

mossy venture
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12700k and the z690, sure

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but if you dont know what ocing is i wouldnt bother

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too easy to break smthn without knowing what youre doing

desert gulch
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Oc'ing gains are marginal in games

little osprey
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ok good thing youtube exists

mossy venture
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only really worth it for benchmarking

desert gulch
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Theres not really a ton to gain on modern cpus

desert gulch
mossy venture
desert gulch
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Yeah

little osprey
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i'll watch youtube tutorial and oc

desert gulch
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Ltt promoted a virus

little osprey
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oh

mossy venture
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it sustained damage because of a youtuber

little osprey
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ok

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then

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um

mossy venture
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and now is worse than my cpu thats worse than his normally is

desert gulch
little osprey
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i'll take a tutorial from tiktok

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or that

mossy venture
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bruh

desert gulch
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That's the best starting place

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Don't use tiktok

mossy venture
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its like talking to a wall

desert gulch
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Those ppl are beyond horrible

mossy venture
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yall can do this, im out

desert gulch
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Same

little osprey
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This is why i haven’t been replying

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😂

potent portal
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You know what tiktok tells you to do?

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This

little osprey
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Peanut butter on cpu

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ok got it

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looks complicated but it's worth a shot

mossy venture
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not for gaming

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especially when pairing a 12700 with a 3060 ti

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wont notice a difference

little osprey
mossy venture
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same thing

little osprey
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i won't be getting a 3060ti till next month

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oh

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hm

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😤

mossy venture
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youre better off getting a 3070 ti and a 12700f with a b660

little osprey
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wait

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i know

mossy venture
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12700f cant be oced

little osprey
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yea

mossy venture
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and doesnt have an igpu

little osprey
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great

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ok got it

potent portal
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Memory overclocking is good for gaming sometimes, and a B660 will still let you do that even if the CPU can't be overclocked

mossy venture
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so will an h670

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tends to not be wiorth compared to a b660 tho

potent portal
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Yes but those are rarer and more expensive

little osprey
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6600xt to 3060ti isn’t that big of a jump is it

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it’s still a performance gap

potent portal
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Not big no

mossy venture
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like 15-20%

little osprey
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unless the 3060ti is like $460or less i wouldn’t go for it

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not worth the upgrade

little osprey
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earlier

mossy venture
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id just save money on the cpu/mobo and get a better gpu

cyan ravine
mossy venture
cyan ravine
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You can keep the white theme and get your lcd

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Ikr but he wants it

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And the 240mm is barely cheaper

mossy venture
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the h150i is $190

cyan ravine
mossy venture
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...

cyan ravine
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He said he wants the lcd upgrade tho

mossy venture
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the h150i has that

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also a 6800 for $800 isnt worth it

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6900xts are going for 1k

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and 6800xts can be gotten off ebay for $750-800

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i just sold a brand new 6800xt for $760 on ebay lol

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also the psu isnt worth at all

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d.f 850 is the same price

cyan ravine
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Ok don't do mine KEKWFLUSHED

little osprey
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😂

cyan ravine
mossy venture
cyan ravine
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I know I'm having fun

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I do see more money the same way in changing mobo ram and cpu tho

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Pump all that into a better gpu

mossy venture
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yep

cyan ravine
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@mossy venture what air cooler would you put on a 12600K

mossy venture
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ak620

cyan ravine
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Since ak620 is 155 on there now

mossy venture
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or peerless assassin

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if not ocing

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if ocing, i wouldnt unless its an ak620 or dark rock 4 pro, but dr4p is overpriced

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theres prolly some other good heatsinks

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but none that i know of

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true

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my friends 5800x stays under 80c with his drp4

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without ocing ofc

cyan ravine
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Guess you can fit a 6900 XT in my bad

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That aio really does ruin the budget a few clicks wow LUL

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@little osprey look at this one instead

mossy venture
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hes deadset on a white build

cyan ravine
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I got no idea what cooler then, the gpu would need to downgrade

mossy venture
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but still no aio with the thingy

cyan ravine
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There's that white cooler master one but I'm pretty sure people aren't a fan

onyx whale
desert gulch
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Hella nah that ain't no 5800x then

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Either he never does anything CPU intensive or it's undervolted

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I refuse to believe that's true

little osprey
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😵‍💫

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it's not a big worry

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ima just wait till summer

little osprey
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when does the 40 series drop

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september

potent portal
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-ish

obsidian wigeon
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^

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we dunno actual date

little osprey
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Alright bet

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I have a 6600 XT should i wait for the 40 series or buy a 3060 ti

obsidian wigeon
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just wait

potent portal
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3060 ti isn't a worthwhile upgrade

obsidian wigeon
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it's not that worth for the price it'll cost you

potent portal
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3070 or 70 ti maybe

obsidian wigeon
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i would wait for a "4060"

potent portal
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That's probably early next year

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Q1

obsidian wigeon
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ye

little osprey
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ok

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ye lower end card is usually Q1 of next year

little osprey
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is it possible to put lian li fans on a h150i?

potent portal
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Sure

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I'm guessing the unifans?

little osprey
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what's that

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oh yeah

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the sl120

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ye

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i saw this note

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does the h150i pass it?

potent portal
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The H110i and H115i are 280mm models, so the H150i should be good

little osprey
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alr

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also what aio is this

desert gulch
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Looks like a yucky kracken

potent portal
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Either NZXT kraken or Gigabyte Aorus

little osprey
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that’s such a basic build

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So many people have a white O11 with unifans and white aio with anime all over it

desert gulch
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@earnest olive he's slandering your build ^^^

little osprey
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😂

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Sure

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except max doesn’t have anime on his pc and he doesn’t have unifans lmao

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genshin is not anime 🤦‍♂️

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it is

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Ur anime

glossy gull
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I did it lads finally after a month of work ☺️
(Ignore my body pillow I don’t have the power to cut it out)

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little osprey
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what gpu?

earnest olive
little osprey
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Eye opener

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U don’t have unifans tho

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based

glossy gull
little osprey
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also build chat bingo remake when max 😠

glossy gull
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Using a m27q

little osprey
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Did u follow a recommendation for parts from us

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o11 or p500a

glossy gull
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Well I have been on discord talking to people for over a month now it took time to get a build that everyone said was solid

potent portal
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Both are good, pick your favorite

little osprey
potent portal
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O11 is more liquid cooling focused but works for air

little osprey
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Well thought out build

glossy gull
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I’m glad to hear that ☺️

little osprey
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can’t wait to see the final product

glossy gull
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Same

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I just need to get the df700 flux

little osprey
glossy gull
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The i35 argb fan and ram

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I don’t have Vetroo in my country

potent portal
glossy gull
little osprey
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is it the mini?

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do they have a mid or smtn

potent portal
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They have the XL that's bigger, it will too

little osprey
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ah

potent portal
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The Evo also, which is newer

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And also does 360 top

little osprey
potent portal
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It looks like the mini will also

glossy gull
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Hmm

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Also people told me to return the hdd and get a p300

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From Toshiba

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Said it’s quieter

potent portal
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Do you mean X300?

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The barracuda is fine for the price

glossy gull
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People said it was loud tho

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Hmmm

potent portal
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You probably won't hear it over your fans

glossy gull
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Ohhh okay

potent portal
glossy gull
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I was supposed to get case fan and ram yesterday but just when I went in the store they told me they switched systems and it will take a week

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Sad moment

potent portal
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Dang, you could run it without a case but the memory is a little critical

glossy gull
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I can get memory today or tomorrow

latent sandal
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Hello

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Is this pc decent

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Ryzen 5 5600
Asrock b550m pro 4
Crucial ballistic gaming RGB 3200mhz
Samsung 970evo plus 500gb
Gigabyte rtx 3060 eagle
Montech air 100
Superflower legion gx650w gold
ID cooling SE224-XT

mossy venture
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And if you're building it, are you buying all new parts or some used

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I'm gonna assume you're building it new, in which case I'd do 12400/b660 instead

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You're going to need more storage, id get a silicon power 3200c16 kit instead of the likely overpriced crucial kit if you're not overclocking it beyond xmp, and I wouldn't get that psu unless it's a or b tier

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I dont have the time to check the psu tier atm

dry prism
ornate condor
glossy gull
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@celest horizon

glossy gull
mossy venture
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@fossil cedar

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@celest horizon

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Oh sorry forks you were already pinged

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My bad

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@wide sparrow

fossil cedar
latent sandal
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Building it myself

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And everything is new

mossy venture
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I can make you a list now

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Was in class

latent sandal
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Oh ok

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Give me a moment

mossy venture
latent sandal
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around 1.2k usd

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i live in sg

mossy venture
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sg?

latent sandal
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yea

mossy venture
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ah, that changes things

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that build seems alright then

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ima take a look though

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@latent sandal 1.2k in singapore $ or usd?

latent sandal
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usd

formal girder
latent sandal
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1.5k in sgd

mossy venture
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kk

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few min

latent sandal
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ok thanks for the help

mossy venture
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god there are no psus in singapore

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youll have to find a psu local to you

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@fossil cedar might be able to do better

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prices suck

stoic island
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@mossy venture I'd recomend you look through shopee instead, pcpp sg only looks at importing from wegg

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Or Lazada, but screw lazada

mossy venture
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ohh really

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didnt know that

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alright begula, disregard those lists

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oh yeah those shipping costs

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i didn't even look at that

obsidian wigeon
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tfw lazada is good in thailand

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but for sg it might be different i guess

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i use both lazada and shopee, and both are great in my country

mossy venture
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i think every single pc part ive ordered has been off of amazon, except for my case

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since i got my gpu, cpu, and ssd from a pre built off amazon

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wait

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hdd and mobo are from reddit actually

fossil cedar
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I don have time to sift through shopee :l

mossy venture
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i might later

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in school rn

latent sandal
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ahh ok

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thanks guys

tribal crater
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Opinion, I have a pc with a obscene amount of rgb in it and made it that way as my wife teaches home school and the little kids do like looking at the light show. I have a place about 9"L 5"W that I was going to put two rgb ssd on but found a place that makes custom rgb plates and thinking of either getting two and two ssd or maybe just getting one to fill the whole spot. My question is shouldi go with PC company's logo like I have in there now, MSI dragon and GIGABYTE eagles, also Corsair ship, or go with something else? ( would have to be child friendly/ cute) like hello kitty, kuromi, rainbow, wiener dog. Wondering if I go away from PC logo's if it would clash with like my MB and eagle ssd or blend because of the rgb? Opinions?

fossil cedar
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Personally I'd go company logo

glossy gull
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My pc works!!!

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First build

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☺️

spice crown
fossil cedar
glossy gull
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Tyyy

fossil cedar
spice crown
mossy venture
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It's slightly better than the cpu I have paired with my 3060 ti

spice crown
mossy venture
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Depends on the games and what settings

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And resolution

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At 1080p max settings with Ray tracing off in cold war, lowest I saw was 90fps in multi player, average of 120 or so

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In warzone, similar

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In zombies I saw a low of like 75 with average of around 100

spice crown
mossy venture
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Compared to any of the 3070 builds, it's much better price/perf

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Yes

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I wish I had gotten that instead of the build I had gotten

spice crown
mossy venture
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ABS is the only pre built company i trust

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i wish i had gone with them instead of the one i went with

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i ended up having to replace everything other than cpu gpu and ssd

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skytech is a terrible company

spice crown
mossy venture
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yes

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personally i prefer 1080p, fps over screen size for me

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but to each their own

spice crown
mossy venture
#

and what you do

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anything over 24 inches, id say 1440p

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24" or under 1080p is fine

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as long as your face isnt inches in front of the monitor

spice crown
mossy venture
#

for 1440p I have no clue

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youtube could answer that

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basically

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the 3060 ti will get 60fps or higher at ultra settings in most if not all games

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that build for $1200 is 100% worth it

spice crown
mossy venture
#

prolly the best you'll get at around the price

spice crown
#

Thank you for everything i really appreciate it

mossy venture
#

the only build youll get better/cheaper is if you build yourself

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and adding a better heatsink couldn't hurt

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basically, better cpu, more storage, more ram

torn mesa
#

Is there a graphics card that could replace the one in this build in the $400-600 prince range?

mossy venture
#

@torn mesa that build doesnt make sense anymore

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whats your budget for the whole build?

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actually it never made sense in the first place lol

torn mesa
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$1500-1600

mossy venture
#

4x8 is worse than 2x8 for ram, the psu is a bomb

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kk one minute

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or can save money by switching the cpu in the 3070 ti one back to a 12400

torn mesa
#

Do you know the performance difference between the two builds? In terms of gaming

mossy venture
#

3080 will be a good bit better than the 3070 ti

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one sec, ill pull up a bench

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about 10% better than the 3080 10gb

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iirc

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passmark is annoying, but 3080 is like 10-15% better than the 3070 ti

torn mesa
#

passmark?

mossy venture
torn mesa
mossy venture
#

a reliable performance comparison site

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thats the 10gb 3080 tho

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one sec

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6800xt/6900xt is also a good option if you dont mind amd

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6900xt currently in stock on amd.com for 1k

torn mesa
#

im on a budget cut bc i need other accessories too

mossy venture
#

ah

torn mesa
#

Might just go with the first build u gave

mossy venture
#

and not much worse than the 3070 ti one

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also if youre going to go with the 3070 ti one, id just do 12400 then

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since you want to save money you wont notice a huge difference in gaming

mossy venture
torn mesa
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thats fine, i was looking for okay to mid range performance anyways
But in all tysm,, cuz i still dont know much about building pcs and ab part compatibilities

mossy venture
#

np

storm stratus
#

im running linux on my school laptop off a usb drive

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humble fossil
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Hi

storm stratus
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i give my school

humble fossil
#

How do I request this service?

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storm stratus
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i would think you press the box between gaming and provide

mossy venture
#

i would recommend just getting a pre built at that point

storm stratus
#

newegg

mossy venture
#

ABS pre builts on newegg have good price/perf generally (atleast the good ones)

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and have good build quality as well as non oem parts

storm stratus
#

so i put linux on a flash drive

tropic laurel
#

need a recommendation, For my pc I am planning on building, My Intel 7 CPU I chose is a: Intel Core i7-9700 Desktop Processor 8 Cores up to 4.7 GHz LGA1151 300 Series 65W , I chose this mother board here: https://www.newegg.ca/p/N82E16813157898?Item=N82E16813157898 and people are telling me to get a different board, What board should I get that isnt way to overly expensive

mossy venture
#

whats your budget for the whole build

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and what parts have you bought already

tropic laurel
#

here ill pm you

mossy venture
#

i dont see why you need to but alright

tropic laurel
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I had it planned on amazon since pc stores in my town are garbage

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Motherboard I listed is from Newegg , and my PC I dont want too expensive, its just mainly for world of warships , world of tanks, warthunder,

mossy venture
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please dont buy any of that

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like, at all

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whats your budget for the whole build

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i will make you a parts list

tropic laurel
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3k

mossy venture
#

for that budget you have a 12700k and 3080 12gb very easily

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what preferences do you have

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white, rgb, etc

tropic laurel
#

I want to do a black pc , the only RGB I want is from a CPU cooler, RAM

mossy venture
#

alright give me a bit

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if you want rgb you can change the aio to the artic freezer ii 280-argb

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ram theres a tridentz kit with rgb

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thats 3600c16

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and could save a good bit on the ssd with an mp33

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970 evo will have better perf tho

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not a huge noticeable difference

tropic laurel
#

ooh I like that, Tho quick question, why does alot of people refer to I5 CPU cores? , is it cause their not too expensive and they perform decently well or am I missing something? , this is my first time ill be building my own pc and learning as much as I can while doing this

mossy venture
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the 12600k has a higher core count than the 9700 as well as better performance

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the generation is more important than the branding, the only time an i7 will beat an i5 is when they're in the same generation

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iirc even a 12100f beats a 9700 in gaming

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which is an i3

rich void
mossy venture
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10400 has better single core than 9700

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albeit very similar

rich void
#

Yeah I'm thinking more 6th gen to 9th gen

tropic laurel
#

aah ok, thats really great , thank you

mossy venture
rich void
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But yeah branding not so important. Performance is what matters

tropic laurel
#

yes but I also find performance matters depending what people play or plan on running for the time being, Since its my first build its really just for warships , World of tanks which use an I5 , Warthunder a friend of mine runs an i5 and is more then happy with it , plus with how much I slave for work its not a real issue for me xD

rich void
#

There's a world of difference between like a 6600 and a 12600k

mossy venture
#

12400 is slightly better than 11700k even if I'm remembering correctly

rich void
#

Yeah 12th gen was the biggest step up in performance that Intel has had in a while

fossil cedar
gloomy root
#

Not sure if this is the spot, but Im trying to figure out it all the parts I have for a build im gonna buy is gonna fit the case that a I chose !

fossil cedar
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Yes it is

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What country you in i can help you put together a list?

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And what's the budget

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Or what's the case and motherboard, cooler and power supply

gloomy root
#

United States for me

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I have the whol PC built out so let me get you the case and everything else!

fossil cedar
#

Sure

gloomy root
#

MSI PRO Z690-A WIFI DDR5 LGA 1700 Intel Z690 SATA 6Gb/s ATX Intel Motherboard, Corsair iCUE 4000X RGB CC-9011204-WW Black Steel / Plastic / Tempered Glass ATX Mid Tower Computer Case, NZXT Kraken Z73 360mm Liquid Cooler with LCD Display - Black, PSU, Seasonic FOCUS GX-1000, 1000W 80+ Gold,

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3080 TI as well

fossil cedar
#

That's all compatible but i would change some parts

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What's your budget and have you bought anything yet?

gloomy root
#

Have not bought anything, with what I have for ssd and ram currently in that one with the i9 and windows its at subtotal 3500$ so 3500, 4k I would say

mossy venture
#

Pato outta curiosity, does the 12400 beat 11700k, price/perf aside?

fossil cedar
fossil cedar
mossy venture
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figures

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was just wondering

gloomy root
fossil cedar
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Ahh yeah i wouldn't get those

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I'll put together a list

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Do you have any asthetic preferences?

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Rgb etc?

mossy venture
#

i wouldnt buy ddr5 if you can avoid it

gloomy root
#

Not really if it is cool if not oh well. I just really wanna get a high end build with the 3080 to replace my current one.

gloomy root
mossy venture
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ddr4 is better than it

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and ddr5 is super overpriced

fossil cedar
#

Not soo much for high end anymore

mossy venture
#

that ddr5 6000 is most likely worse than 4000c18

gloomy root
#

Hmm okay cool. Not the most versed in the knowledge of it all so I appreciate it

fossil cedar
#

Ehh well not that bad

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Are you gonna oc @gloomy root

gloomy root
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oc?

mossy venture
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overclock

gloomy root
#

oh duh

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probs not

fossil cedar
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Aight

mossy venture
#

tbh id do 12700k and 3080 ti imo

#

not a huge diff but there be more of a diff in gaming

fossil cedar
#

3080 ti isn't worth the price jump

mossy venture
rich void
#

Could do 12700k or 5800x3d

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5800x3d ofc requires more changes

mossy venture
#

mm

fossil cedar
mossy venture
#

true

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time for 3090 for 1k more

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ez solution

gloomy root
#

So you say the 3080 ti wouldnt be worth it for how much more it is?

mossy venture
#

prolly not

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the 12900k wont exactly be worth it for you either

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i wonder if 5800x3d vs 12900ks will have a bigger perf difference with next gen gpus

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well, the high end ones

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4090/7900xt

fossil cedar
fossil cedar
mossy venture
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i know

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not saying for his build

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or in general

fossil cedar
#

And while 5800x3d is good i don't think it's worth buying into an very EOL platform now

mossy venture
#

just as in the perf difference

gloomy root
#

Sweet thanks Pato! im new to the building of stuff So with this build FPS and overall games that are pretty intensive be able to run it no problem?

fossil cedar
#

Yes

mossy venture
fossil cedar
#

It's a very nice build lots of upgrade ability and future proofing on it as well

fossil cedar
gloomy root
#

Okay cool i think im gonna go with this one. Glad i got pointed this way to come to the experts lol!

fossil cedar
#

No problem

mossy venture
#

but some people rpefer nvidia ofer amd

fossil cedar
mossy venture
#

didnt know it was still on sale

strong raft
# glossy gull

Take note noobs. This is mostly how a 1st build should start. Modest cpu hsf & rig build outside of case, which is smart anyways because stuff happens

gloomy root
#

@fossil cedar is this the same one that you added or am i being dumb EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 12GB XC3 BLACK GAMING, 12G-P5-4861-KL 12GB GDDR6X iCX3 Cooling ARGB LED LHR

strong raft
#

Also those looking at 3080 ti, think about the 12GB 3080 instead when it's $999.

fossil cedar
gloomy root
#

Gotcha i see

fossil cedar
#

I'd recommend the 1k 3080 12gb ftw3

gloomy root
#

The one you put in right! cool cool

fossil cedar
#

Yup

gloomy root
#

Pato got another question for my own just knowledge

little osprey
#

ask

gloomy root
#

The MSI mag z690 vs msi pro z690. Whats the main differences or which is better?

fossil cedar
gloomy root
#

Gotcha okay cool thank you so much very much appreciated !

fossil cedar
#

Np

sand falcon
fossil cedar
#

they already said theyre gonna use the vcache on 7000 tho

sand falcon
#

A lot of the OC issues AMD talked about with the 5800x3d just seem to be from a lack of r&d time, so I fully expect the 7800x3d will have much better performance

strong raft
#

Skipping 6000 series naming? Oh right that was mobile stuff huh

sand falcon
#

They want to catch up to Intel's number lol

fossil cedar
sand falcon
#

Ah

fossil cedar
#

i missed the not lol i was like why wouldnt the use vcahce again

sand falcon
#

I thought you were just saying that I didn't have to speculate about it since they announced it

fossil cedar
#

oh well that too lol

potent portal
gloomy root
#

@fossil cedar I got the rig you sent me, did i need to order like windows 10 for it too?

south cliff
#

Do you need the little steel seiries USB adapter thing for the arctis 7? For wireless

potent portal
gloomy root
#

Is it recommended to do it this way instead of buying a whole new windows?

desert gulch
#

You just buy a key to use it's full features

unique dune
#

Y'all think a it would be a good idea to use an 80+ Bronze PSU with an RTX 3050 and RYZEN 5 3600? Newegg recommended 333 Watts, which I'm kind of skeptical about, but it would be convenient because I already have said PSU. Corsair says its 550 watts.

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Sorry, I'm rather clueless.

mossy venture
#

have you bought any parts yet?

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and if not, whats your total budget

#

if you have, what parts have you bought and how much money do you have for the rest of the build]

unique dune
#

Don't really have a budget, but I'm going cheap. I already have the GPU, case, PSU, and hard drive with a motherboard on the way.

mossy venture
#

then you have a budget

#

what case and psu

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and youll want an ssd

unique dune
#

CORSAIR CV Series CV550 CP-9020210-NA 550 W ATX12V 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Non-Modular Power Supply

mossy venture
#

can you return it

unique dune
#

I bought it in 2020, I doubt it

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I can sell it though

mossy venture
#

thatd do it

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nvm then, itll be alright

#

what mobo

#

that id most likely return, especially if its a b450

#

or x470/x570

unique dune
#

ASUS ROG STRIX B550-A GAMING AM4 AMD B550 SATA 6Gb/s ATX AMD Motherboard

hearty pumice
#

Any body have any recconmendations for 1300w+ psus?

mossy venture
#

youll want either a 5600, or a used 3600

#

3600 shouldnt be bought new

unique dune
#

For CPU?

mossy venture
#

yes

unique dune
#

Yeah that's what I'm looking at

mossy venture
#

don't buy a 3600 new

unique dune
#

What is a decent price?

mossy venture
#

5600 beats it by far, and is cheaper

hearty pumice
mossy venture
#

3600 decent price is $130

unique dune
#

Ok

mossy venture
#

only buy 3600 used

unique dune
#

I'll go for a 5600 then

hearty pumice
#

You would know right, you have a 3600

mossy venture
unique dune
hearty pumice
mossy venture
unique dune
mossy venture
#

that is a fine price for the cpu

mossy venture
#

as long as its 3200c16 or 3600c16 youre fine

#

if its 3600c18 or 3000c16 dont buy it

unique dune
mossy venture
#

yeah dont buy that

#

im assuming you want it to be rgb?

unique dune
#

Nah I don't care about that

mossy venture
#

then the kit i linked is better and cheaper

#

well, similar and cheaper. Still slightly better

unique dune
#

Aight I'll take a look

mossy venture
#

also, you got an hdd not ssd?

#

if so, youll want that ssd that i linked to put windows on

#

also one last thing, how much did you pay for the 3050?

unique dune
#

$346.44, best price on Newegg

mossy venture
#

6600 beats 3050 by a decent bit

unique dune
mossy venture
#

not 3050

unique dune
#

No then

hearty pumice
#

Oh shit, 6600 or 6600xt more worth it than the 3060-3050

mossy venture
#

id return it and buy one of those two

unique dune
#

Nah I'm satisfied with it

mossy venture
#

and can get 25% more perf for $20

unique dune
#

That was with tax and stuff tho

mossy venture
#

that makes more sense

#

not as bad then

unique dune
#

Yeah

mossy venture
#

personally i still wouldve gone with the 6600, since more perf for same price including tax

#

but if you prefer nvidia/don't want to go through the hassle of returning, its fine

unique dune
#

I absolutly hate Radeon tho

mossy venture
#

why

#

if youre overclocking i can get that

#

coming from someone who sold a 6800xt and went back to 3060 ti for ocing reasons

unique dune
#

Because I have a few friends who have Radeon cards, and they have compatibility issues galore

mossy venture
#

for some softwares, sure

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but not for gaming

unique dune
#

Yeah I also am not a fan of the AMD software

hearty pumice
#

I got a 3090 because I didnt want a radeon card, so I got a 3090... even though the 6900xt is way more fps per dollar.

mossy venture
#

F

hearty pumice
#

Exaclty, no one was buying any radeon cards, the 6900xt was always in stock...

mossy venture
#

if i had kept the 6800xt, i wouldve been running it at 1080p with a 3600 on a 650w psu lol

#

amd ocing is just very annoying

hearty pumice
#

Sure, I have a 850w psu for my 3090, any reccomendations for 1300w+ psu?

mossy venture
#

and decided id rather wait to upgrade gpu with 40 series or 50 series

mossy venture
#

if youre planning to upgrade gpu, id wait until you do so

#

no reason to change psu before you know what youll need

#

especially considering next gen psus are likely to use the new 12 pin connector

hearty pumice
mossy venture
#

how so?

hearty pumice
#

Its about 4 years old, and it started to power on, trip overcurrent protection because gpu pull, and then it power on.

mossy venture
#

ahh

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figured it was new with your 3090

#

rmx 1000w is $150

hearty pumice
#

Yeah, more like 3, 3 months. I have the RMx850w. The 1000w might even allow me to reuse my custom cables.

mossy venture
#

thats rip then, rmx is a great psu

#

unfortunate its breaking

hearty pumice
#

I was looking at the Seasonic prime 1300w gold or platinum

mossy venture
#

ive no clue about that psu

hearty pumice
#

And if I raise the power limit, it can pull 450...

mossy venture
#

still, with a 3900x that leaves plenty of power

#

even with ocing

hearty pumice
#

Yeah, my psu sadly disagrees

south cliff
#

Should I buy this 5 pack of artic f12 fans for just 15 bucks?

potent portal
#

Do you have any liquid cooling?

south cliff
#

Yes

#

I have a x73

potent portal
#

The F12 don't have enough static pressure for liquid cooling

south cliff
#

I need better intake fans

potent portal
#

P12 are the pressure focused model

#

And they happen to just be good all around

south cliff
#

Alr I will see if I can find any for a good price

little osprey
#

is this were I would ask for build help

potent portal
#

Yes

little osprey
potent portal
south cliff
#

I see one for 20

#

It 5 bucks more than the f12

#

Worth the 5 bucks?

potent portal
#

100% worth it

potent portal
little osprey
#

alr

south cliff
#

Ok just got me a 5 pack

potent portal
#

The EVGA website has a cheaper 3080 ti also

desert gulch
#

or just go for a sub $1k 3080 12gb

#

its basically a 3080ti with a cold

potent portal
#

Or 6900XT for $1030

desert gulch
#

that too

little osprey
potent portal
#

Technically yes, if you use nvenc. AMD has a hardware encoder too though.

south cliff
#

I think Nvidia has better software than amd

mossy venture
#

Give me a few min

little osprey
#

alr

potent portal
#

Are you dead set on liquid cooling or would a good RGB air cooler work?

little osprey
#

i’m not really deadset on either as long as it cools my CPU lol

potent portal
#

Yeah the 5600 is not hot at all, a basic air cooler works fine'

little osprey
#

alr

potent portal
#

Saves money and performs better

desert gulch
mossy venture
#

I'd also get an m27q over that monitor

#

240hz useless unless you're playing pro

#

So ig if you're pro it's fine

desert gulch
#

amp + ampere is not a combination id like to do, despite the names being similar lol

#

revo df 850 should be cheaper

potent portal
#

Revo DF is same price but has ripple problems sometimes

desert gulch
#

better than a stock focus, which is what the amp is

obsidian wigeon
#

amd's hw encoder sucks tho

desert gulch
#

hell, id take a cxf over a amp even

obsidian wigeon
#

nvenc is still a lot better

desert gulch
#

at least the cxf is a good HEC unit

mossy venture
#

12600k 3080 12gb build for 1.85k instead of the 5600 3080 ti build :p

potent portal
#

A-GF is a couple bucks more

desert gulch
#

weird hold up/ power ok stuff

#

but its still alright

potent portal
#

I think we can all agree that none of the budget options are perfect at least lol

desert gulch
#

pcpp is just weird about it

mossy venture
#

But effort

desert gulch
mossy venture
#

Also I forgot about that

desert gulch
#

whisper and formula gold are nice

#

theyre actually plat units now

potent portal
mossy venture
#

M27q still great at $300 though

potent portal
#

When I checked yesterday all the ~$300 options for M27Q were sold out

mossy venture
#

It's in stock for 310

potent portal
#

Must have come back in stock since yesterday then

little osprey
mossy venture
#

Could get a liquid freezer ii 280mm if you want better cooling, but not needed with a b660 since you won't be ocing it

potent portal
mossy venture
#

The extra screen size is nice though

desert gulch
mossy venture
#

That didn't exactly come out right

potent portal
# mossy venture Out of curiosity, how much better is it than the m27q aside from the screen size...

https://www.rtings.com/monitor/tools/compare/gigabyte-m27q-vs-lg-32gp850-b/19668/21826?usage=3623&threshold=0.10

RTINGS.com
Gigabyte M27Q vs LG 32GP850-B Side-by-Side Monitor Comparison

The LG 32GP850-B is slightly better than the Gigabyte M27Q. The LG has a slightly faster refresh rate, which translates to a slightly better response time as well. The LG also has better reflection handling, and the stand can rotate to a portrait orientation. The LG has a larger screen, but the same resolution as the Gigabyte, so it has slightly...

mossy venture
#

There

#

That's better

ornate solstice
#

can someone recommend me a better pc case

potent portal
#

RGB instead of BGR
Worth it just for that 😉

ornate solstice
#

i currently use a cougar mx330 air

mossy venture
desert gulch
mossy venture
#

Oh wait

#

Non mesh and non g?

#

Just regular mx330?

ornate solstice
#

no the 330g not the mesh one tho

mossy venture
#

Could add more fans and your case will be fine

potent portal
#

Guess which is which

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mossy venture
#

Mx330-g is a decent case

ornate solstice
#

i have fans in all of the spots