building-and-recc-chat

[south cliff]

and settings

[grave void]

in canada

on bestbuy or newegg

or something

[ruby umbra]

I assume most people play on the performance settings

From what I see

[south cliff]

Let me see

[ruby umbra]

Everything low but high view distance

Because you need to see the default dance from a mile away

[south cliff]

look i already see on ethat is alot better for same price

[south cliff]

https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali535-gladiator/p/N82E16883360140R?Item=N82E16883360140R&Description=gaming pc&cm_re=gaming_pc-_-83-360-140R-_-Product

this a good one but maybe i can find a better one with better cpu

[grave void]

k

[south cliff]

That one will blow the other out of the water

[grave void]

ya

can newegg us ship to canada

[south cliff]

What is his budget

[grave void]

he has no idea

I will show you what he sent me

[frigid night]

@eager leaf where is the psu in that purple build?

[grave void]

https://www.amazon.ca/Dell-Computer-Desktop-Processor-Keyboard/dp/B014KIYQZW/ref=sr_1_12?crid=1Z5FJUJCUV5S8&keywords=dell%2Boptiplex%2Bgaming%2Bpc&qid=1650128798&sprefix=dell%2Boptiplex%2Bgaming%2Bpc%2Caps%2C82&sr=8-12&th=1#customerReviews

[south cliff]

That one is booty

[grave void]

can newegg us ship to canada

???

[south cliff]

ye

[grave void]

ya

[south cliff]

but you hqav eto go to Newegg.ca

[grave void]

so I can buy from newegg.com

[south cliff]

no

newegg.ca

[eager leaf]

@frigid night in the back

[grave void]

k

[frigid night]

that's cool as heck. makes for a really clean looking build

[south cliff]

https://www.newegg.ca/Product/ComboDealDetails?ItemList=Combo.4491452

[frigid night]

but uhh.. that cable management though 😄

[grave void]

lol

[south cliff]

https://www.newegg.ca/Product/ComboDealDetails?ItemList=Combo.4491452

Here is one that is good

[grave void]

k

[eager leaf]

It's hard managing 12 different fan cables and everything else

[grave void]

12

wow

[frigid night]

I bet. I only jest haha

[earnest olive]

LMAO

[earnest olive]

what on earth is this

😭

[south cliff]

IK

[frank stirrup]

pc

[grave void]

lol

where can you get a stick of 32 gb ram

[frank stirrup]

amazon

[south cliff]

Just 1 stick?

[frank stirrup]

or newegg

[south cliff]

Just 1 stick?

[frank stirrup]

or most pc shops

[fossil cedar]

Believe the technical term is a monstrosity

[frank stirrup]

its actually pee c

because its peepee

but also a pc

[fossil cedar]

1700 cad so it's not as bad but it's still terrible

[fossil cedar]

Hmmm

[grave void]

1 stick

or 2

[south cliff]

get 2 16 gb

for dual channel

[grave void]

eventually I want 4 32g

sticks

[south cliff]

why

[earnest olive]

using 1 stick of ram instead of 2 has the potential to decrease your gaming performance by up to 80%

[south cliff]

yeah

[grave void]

yes

[earnest olive]

1 stick of ram basically turns a 3090 PC into ewaste

why exactly do you want 128gb ram?

[ruby umbra]

All you need is a 4 core intel cpu

Ez

[desert gulch]

Sounds like an Alienware thing to do

[earnest olive]

dude

[grave void]

lol

[earnest olive]

my old laptop before i knew anything about computers

i thought it was fine because it had 16gb ram

[desert gulch]

Lmao

Single channel?

[earnest olive]

it was dropping to 25 fps in league

yeah, a single 1x16gb ram stick

[desert gulch]

Dell or hp?

[earnest olive]

i upgraded from 1x16gb to 2x8gb

[grave void]

nooooo

[earnest olive]

25 fps lows went to 120 fps lows

[earnest olive]

even worse

[desert gulch]

Uh oh

Alienware?

[earnest olive]

worse

[ruby umbra]

I single 32gb stick

[little osprey]

Lenovo

[ruby umbra]

[desert gulch]

Lenovo?

[earnest olive]

lenovo is one of the best laptop oems lol what

[little osprey]

Oh laptop?

[desert gulch]

Lenovo thinkpad

[ruby umbra]

Lmao

[earnest olive]

a-sus

[little osprey]

You sus

[grave void]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[desert gulch]

Asussy?

[south cliff]

[grave void]

wait

[earnest olive]

asussy baka

[ruby umbra]

Only issue my lenovo has is bad battery

[grave void]

my mother board is asus

[ruby umbra]

But gaming laptop

[earnest olive]

asus worst brand

[still roost]

RobotPlayz#4771 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[little osprey]

??

[desert gulch]

Lmfao

[ruby umbra]

Owned

[south cliff]

What best brand

[earnest olive]

lmao

[grave void]

lmao

[ruby umbra]

British

[earnest olive]

best brand is zhaoxin

[little osprey]

Wtf is zhaoxin

sounds like ass

[grave void]

I have a asus motherboard

[earnest olive]

can't wait for zhaoxin + huananzhi collab

[grave void]

is that bad

[desert gulch]

Asus motherboard can be decent

They have some really good ones

[earnest olive]

no, unless you ever need to warranty it

[little osprey]

no asus prime is ok

[earnest olive]

asus has the worst customer support in the industry

[desert gulch]

Z690 hero is a fine board, now

Lol

[grave void]

well I bought my pc from newegg

[earnest olive]

ah

good, then you don't need to go with asus customer support

just go with whoever sold you the prebuilt

it's their problem not yours

[grave void]

yep

[ruby umbra]

GT 1030 vs GTX 1080ti

Who wins???

[south cliff]

GT 1030

[ruby umbra]

Wrong

730

[grave void]

https://www.newegg.ca/abs-ali560/p/N82E16883360190?Item=N82E16883360190

[earnest olive]

i recently bought a graphics card that makes the GT 1030 look powerful

[grave void]

thats my pc

and here is my monitor

https://www.newegg.ca/p/N82E16824012018?Item=N82E16824012018

[south cliff]

Its pretty good

[ruby umbra]

Intel core 2 duo IGPU

[south cliff]

400 dollars?

[earnest olive]

GT 1030 is 5 times more powerful than the card i bought

[grave void]

on sale it was less

[earnest olive]

but costs 10 times more

[little osprey]

Lol

[grave void]

this is also in cad

not usd

[south cliff]

you couldve got better spec

[grave void]

like what

for the monitor or pc

[desert gulch]

M27q pog wdym

[little osprey]

The pc is in cad.. remember that

[grave void]

yes

[little osprey]

Plus i think pcs tend to be more expensive in canada to begin with

[grave void]

idk

what do you guys think of the omen 40L and 45L

[little osprey]

Cute

[ruby umbra]

I'm going to get a single fan 3060

I want to explode

[grave void]

single fan

[little osprey]

ummm

[grave void]

I got a tri fan

[frank stirrup]

nzxt h510 vibe

[grave void]

ya

[little osprey]

but the internals are cool

compared to my pc at least

[ruby umbra]

Kaboom

[little osprey]

atx case, actual cpu cooler, atx psu

[little osprey]

no.

do not buy that

[ruby umbra]

Lmao

It will explode

[earnest olive]

lol i saw a 3060Ti FTW3 ultra for $480 this morning

[formal girder]

Just make a blower 3090 TI and put that In a H510 with a 12900Ks cooled by a Intel stock cooler from the 12400

[little osprey]

hws?

[earnest olive]

yeah

[frank stirrup]

it seems ur a fan of over spending on garbage

[earnest olive]

we are not yet at the point where buying gpus from retail is a viable option

[little osprey]

fr

[ruby umbra]

I already own a pny

[grave void]

3060 ti all the way

[ruby umbra]

Whh would I get another

[earnest olive]

imagine the people who paid $650 for that card

[ruby umbra]

I know how mediocre they are

[frank stirrup]

pny is top tier lmao

[little osprey]

what

[earnest olive]

nothing is wrong with PNY

[frank stirrup]

lifetime warranty?

heck yeah

[earnest olive]

PNY is the board partner that makes all of NVIDIA's highest end datacenter cards

[little osprey]

Max Video Card Length
10.63 in. (270.00 mm)

[earnest olive]

https://www.pny.com/nvidia-a100-80gb

mom i think i need this for roblox

[grave void]

good price

want to play jailbreak

or adopt me lol

[little osprey]

i wonder if that 3080ti is still $600

[ruby umbra]

Minecraft rtx money

Tbh

[earnest olive]

my 3090 was struggling in minecraft yesterday

[ruby umbra]

Me when Java edition is terribly optimized

[earnest olive]

got it down to 25 fps

[ruby umbra]

Lmao

I hope you use optifine

Or sodium

[earnest olive]

shaders had it down to about 80 fps average

[ruby umbra]

I assume you are at a higher resolution

14400 or 4k

[earnest olive]

1440p

[ruby umbra]

Ah

[earnest olive]

SEUS shaders maxed out

[ruby umbra]

Kinda makes more sense

Yea

[little osprey]

seus is amazing

[earnest olive]

at least it looked pretty

[ruby umbra]

If it was 1080p I would just be sad

[ruby umbra]

Last words before someone falls into a volcano

[earnest olive]

3090 bad card

need upgrade

too weak for minecraft

[ruby umbra]

I need a 4090ti

Rn

[little osprey]

*single fan

[frank stirrup]

i want to try the ptgi shaders when 3060ti

[ruby umbra]

7+1 pin*

[earnest olive]

i tested a single fan 3070 once

[little osprey]

what.

[earnest olive]

it settled at 66C mining

[little osprey]

that’s so good

[ruby umbra]

Single fan 3090 or nothing

Nerd

[earnest olive]

science

[ruby umbra]

Real

[earnest olive]

i stuck my fingers in those fans for 15 minutes

[ruby umbra]

They should hire you

[earnest olive]

to let it hit steady state

[desert gulch]

Metal fan blades on GPU when?

[ruby umbra]

Terrawatt psu moment

[ruby umbra]

With jagged edges

[desert gulch]

Ye

Sharpened

For "increased efficiency"

[earnest olive]

i got cut by a case fan once

it drew blood

[ruby umbra]

You must sharpen them every week

Or else

[little osprey]

NO WAY

LOL

[earnest olive]

buy it

[little osprey]

If my manager would assign me shifts maybe i could get money 😔

[ruby umbra]

🤨

Remember to sacrifice blood to the pc fan

[little osprey]

demonic pc fan

[ruby umbra]

You pay for the 3090ti in blood sacrifice

12 monthly payments of a pint of blood each month

[potent portal]

Nah
A quart a week
For a year
Still can survive that but you need to suffer a little for the sacrifice

[ruby umbra]

Jigsaw 3090ti test

You will lose both your legs but you get the gpu

[formal girder]

I don't need legs if I'm at my desk all the time enjoying my 3090ti

Wheelchairs let's goooo

[tame nexus]

My cousins looking for a good prebuilt for Max of 1500 anyone got any good ones? Doesn’t have to be exactly 1500 either

[mossy venture]

is this including monitor, keyboard, mouse and everything or just the tower

[tame nexus]

Nah just desktop

If it’s like one that comes with it that would work too just tryna help my aunt look for one

[mossy venture]

https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali565/p/N82E16883360195?Description=3060 ti abs&cm_re=3060_ti abs-_-83-360-195-_-Product could use more storage

2tb hdd would be a good addition

https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali581/p/N82E16883360216?Description=3070 abs&cm_re=3070_abs-_-83-360-216-_-Product&quicklink=true if wanting to spend a bit more

or exactly 1500 https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali586/p/N82E16883360221?Description=3070 abs&cm_re=3070_abs-_-83-360-221-_-Product

last is prolly best deal

[tame nexus]

Thanks

[mossy venture]

actually last is def best deal

[fossil cedar]

First and last are decent yeah

[ornate condor]

3000mhz rams

[fossil cedar]

eh its fine

[jagged ember]

it'll be fine

[ornate condor]

I mean you can replace rams easily but still its annoying they putting 3000mhz instead regular 3200mhz

[fossil cedar]

No need 3200 vs 3000 is very little diff

[ornate condor]

ofc upgrading from 3000 to 3200 not worth it bu can replace it with better ones

I mean I would do it at least lol

[little osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/videocard-gif-22968533

[strong raft]

$150 refurb 970 evo plus, then return/replace if the specs are junk.

Is the 3080 an FE? That's when $700 would be semi-legit.

[formal girder]

Keep going I need a single fan gpu

[ruby umbra]

I can try

[earnest olive]

might as well try before returning

nothing to lose

[ruby umbra]

Like

I think I have some pliers

Just to make slight adjustments

[fossil cedar]

ehh for an 11400 its not worth

[mossy venture]

if it were 16gb to 32, maybe.

and only if you needed the extra ram

[ruby umbra]

Yeah no

I don't think its working out

[ornate condor]

[ruby umbra]

Card just might be slightly too big

I think its the lip right here

This part

Idk

Still sucks

Was excited

I've seen people say shift the mobo a little

Dunno if I should

[strong raft]

Eh the mobo screws/holes don't allow much movement.

[ruby umbra]

The 1660s legs fit fine

[ruby umbra]

Yea

Disappointing but I guess that's expected

Out of ideas on how to fix it

If someone can find a fix il uh

PayPal 5 bucks

[formal girder]

Is the card not going into the slot?

[ruby umbra]

Yea

It can't go far down enough

I don't think its the legs, the 1660s has the same bend

Maybe too wide

[formal girder]

Insert the card at an angle and make sure the tabs that are flat along the card have enough room to go behind the board

It's a finicky process with tight spaces like that

[ruby umbra]

Back end first?

Or front?

(Front as in where hdmi is)

[formal girder]

Front

I had this issue back when I had my 3090 and my Asus tuf b365m board

[ruby umbra]

Hn

Hm

I can't get the right angle

[ruby umbra]

Yea

Very tight

(Ik it isn't lined up just showing how tight it is)

[formal girder]

The only other solution would try to shift the board by a fraction away from the back but won't be easy too do (and I noticed that I understand)

[ruby umbra]

Yeah

Especially moving cables out of the way just to do it

[little osprey]

can you show like a side by side comparison of the two cards' legs?

[formal girder]

The thicker pcie bracket is probably what was not taken into consideration by the aibs

[fossil cedar]

Can you send a picture of the area where the ports will be? That's where you're having the issue right?

[ruby umbra]

Left one fits

Idk how to angle the photo

[fossil cedar]

Which ones the left one it's top and bottom in the photo

But i meant of the case bit actually

[ruby umbra]

Oh camera came out weird

Mb

Top one fit

[fossil cedar]

Hmm

[ruby umbra]

This?

[fossil cedar]

Yup but could you try capture the top bit of the case that's cut off?

[ruby umbra]

Like this?

Sorry I am very confused

[fossil cedar]

Yup

Hmm I'd probably loosely uncrew that screw a bit so you can try nudge the board over.. that's most likely what's causing the issue

[ruby umbra]

The one on the case?

Or the board

[fossil cedar]

That one

Oh lol

[ruby umbra]

Lol

[fossil cedar]

Stick beat me by upload time

[ruby umbra]

Nudge it to the right or left

I assume right

[formal girder]

Yeahh faster mobile data let's goo

[ruby umbra]

5g

Real

[formal girder]

Away from back of case

4G lte

[fossil cedar]

Yeah i get better upload speeds on my 4g as well compared to my 12mbps up wifi

[ruby umbra]

Doesn't budge just from one screw

[formal girder]

My wifi is only for my PC with 9mbps of upload and large files

[ruby umbra]

Hm

[formal girder]

Try to loosen a few other but not entirely remove them

Once you get the tabs to fit in then screw them down slowly and ensure the gap doesn't close

[fossil cedar]

Might be worth slightly loosening a few more then

[ruby umbra]

Got it to move away slightly

Nothin

[formal girder]

is the bracket on the back of the gpu warped by any chance

[mossy venture]

has the gpu been deep fried

[ruby umbra]

The card might be too tall

If that's the right word

[formal girder]

Looks slightly warped

[fossil cedar]

thats actually normal

[ruby umbra]

My 1660 is like that

So

Probably normal

[fossil cedar]

i think it supposed to look like that, it kinda goes outwards into on the outside of the case

[formal girder]

Huh never noticed

[untold beacon]

Well it looks normal to me

[ruby umbra]

Is it card width?

Or height

[little osprey]

i dont know if thats the problem

[ruby umbra]

The measurement from slot so side panel

Feels like it could be a factor

[little osprey]

can you stack your 6600 on the 1660s

and send a pic

i know what you're talking about but idk the term for that

[ruby umbra]

Bad angle probably

Card is weirdly shapped

Why

[tidal moth]

Wrong chat sorry

[celest horizon]

Why are you like this

[tidal moth]

It is a good

[ruby umbra]

But yeah

Smaller card needed probably

Anyone here use small cards?

[little osprey]

Yes

single fan 1650

💀

[ruby umbra]

Q

[hybrid apex]

Do y’all know how I can change my key binds with the adapter ?

Everything’s working except the keybind changing

[iron dragon]

hello

[little osprey]

hi

[south cliff]

What is the diffrence between a regular cpu and a ES version?

[desert gulch]

Ones an engineering sample and one is a retail version

[little osprey]

Es

Electro static cpu

[cyan ravine]

Eh sorta cpu

[desert gulch]

es can also not be stable or as good as retail version

its technically illegal to buy them aswell

[south cliff]

Alr

[desert gulch]

i wouldnt get one unless its WAY WAY cheaper than the retail version, you know the source is trusted, and you know that specific ES model is stable

[south cliff]

yeah i was looking at a 12900k for 250 es

[formal girder]

[short raven]

I am thinking about upgrading from a R5 3600 to a R9 5900x should I get an aio or just use the stock cooler

[little osprey]

5900x doesn’t come with a cooler

and the 3600 cooler is nowhere near good enough for the 5900x

I would get an aio like liquid freezer II

280mm at least

[frank stirrup]

^

[short raven]

@little osprey thank u

[little osprey]

Ye

[short raven]

I was looking at the EK 240mm Corsair aio
I was also wondering would it be worth switching to a 5600 from the 3600

[elfin moss]

oh damn okay

I was just about to ask, I'm switching from a 5600x to a 5900x and was wondering if there was a cooler better than a fuma 2 or nhd15

just wanna know an adequate cooler

[desert gulch]

what cooler do you currently have?

[elfin moss]

since I got the 5600x, I figured that I didn't need an aftermarket cooler, so I just use stock

[desert gulch]

yeah youll want a better cooler for sure

[elfin moss]

yeah, I've heard the 5900x can get toasty lol

[desert gulch]

liquid freezer 280 is nice

[earnest olive]

consider deepcool AK620 for air cooler, otherwise for an AIO go for 280mm or better

[desert gulch]

^

[earnest olive]

240mm is fine if only gaming but why would you buy a 5900x for gaming

[elfin moss]

yeah I'm currently buying one bc I'm tryna edit videos and its straining the 5600x a bit

[earnest olive]

good, you have a real use for a 5900x

I'm proud of you

[elfin moss]

thanks lol

is there any aio brand that particularly stands out? or is just any 280mm rad good within reason?

[earnest olive]

just about any 280mm, 360mm, or 420mm AIO will do great, so you can pick what looks best in your opinion

or if you don't care about looks then get the liquid freezer ii

liquid freezer ii also has RGB version if you still want top notch performance but don't mind paying extra for RGB on top

[elfin moss]

ooh that would be nice

is there a kit I can get w/o fans? I've used phanteks fans entirely in my case so ideally I'd like to stay identical

if not it's no big deal

[earnest olive]

no, aios are never sold without fans

you'd have to go custom loop to buy a rad without fans

it's generally bad practice to sell an incomplete product because no matter how clear you make it that you'll need to add fans some idiot is going to use it as is and leave it 1 star and return it and waste your money on the return lol

[elfin moss]

ahhh, that makes sense lol

[earnest olive]

you could always just grab the non RGB version and put your own fans on it

sell the fans for a couple bucks or keep them as backups

just make sure your phanteks fans have decent static pressure

radiator fans are generally a little different from case fans

static pressure is more important than raw airflow numbers when you're trying to push air through radiator fins

[elfin moss]

oh damn, I had no idea

alr then I'll probably end up using the included fans anyhow

[earnest olive]

if you know what model fans check the spec sheet

if you're worried about aesthetics a lot it's a valid concern to have mismatched fans lol

my aio has different fans from my case, and while they look just about the same when set to white like I always do, they sometimes look a little different when set to other colors

like if I set everything to red my aio fans are considerably darker than my case fans

[elfin moss]

yeah, that's the sort of thing I'd be worried about

although I guess black fans would sorta hide and wouldnt be in the way, so if I drop the RGB I can save a few bucks and keep technically on theme

[earnest olive]

could consider running push/pull as well with included fans on top hidden and rgb fans on the bottom

if you have enough space above your motherboard

[elfin moss]

ooh true true

[elfin moss]

yeah, I've got plenty of space; I got the Phanteks Eclipse p500a, which admittedly is a bit more case than I needed, enough to fit a second ITX build up in the top, but the airflow is super nice

[earnest olive]

I'm familiar with that case it is indeed a tank

I thought o11 would be more case than I needed until I got a 3090 strix now it's too small

[elfin moss]

damn, no kidding!

[earnest olive]

it takes considerable effort to close the case and the gpu is so close to the glass that it increases temps by 6C

so I just leave it open

if I close the glass it's just eating its own exhaust back immediately lol

[potent portal]

That was part of my motivation to get the fractal torrent, GPUs are only getting bigger

[earnest olive]

my next case might be the hyte y60, just not sure how the air cooling performance will be

I still don't have interest in custom loops

[elfin moss]

ooh, thats a very cool case design

[earnest olive]

a bit concerned about how close gpu fans are to the glass with a 3 slot air cooler

I do kind of wish they had an option to just push the gpu mount as far back as possible, I don't need other pcie cards

[potent portal]

Yeah you're not fitting a 3090 ti in there, and any expansion cards need to be low profile

[earnest olive]

I know that being able to vertical mount and still use half height pcie cards is a selling point of the case though

lol I could put my cute little r5 240 behind the main gpu to drive monitors with

if it's radeon it won't interfere with installing latest nvidia drivers

and it itself can install latest (modded) radeon drivers

[buoyant patrol]

Just wait till the 4070 comes out w/ a extremely bad single fan cooler comes out!

[potent portal]

Ventus 1x

[buoyant patrol]

LMAO

[earnest olive]

stop

msi WILL take this as a challenge

[little osprey]

where can i buy msi dragon figurine 😠

https://tenor.com/view/credit-card-smacking-credit-card-on-table-gif-21340324

Take my money, msi.

[potent portal]

Best I can do is gigabyte

[graceful peak]

sory what is a good powersuply for 3060 ti?

[fossil cedar]

What country are you in?

[graceful peak]

denmark

i think the outlet is 240 if its that

[fossil cedar]

Any 650w or higher in A tier or B tier of this list
https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/
I found one hear but it looks pretty pricey
https://dk.pcpartpicker.com/product/WxL48d/corsair-rm-2019-650-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-cp-9020194-na

[graceful peak]

Ok thx

[little osprey]

Pfft, its name is Lucky the dragon

[twin berry]

https://www.mobileadvance.com/msi-lucky-dragon-figurine/

[analog hearth]

yo it would be awesome is Corsair made a gold-rated CM series

[fossil cedar]

Why lol?

[analog hearth]

budget-oriented gold-rated PSU

[fossil cedar]

1 gold rating is just a slight bit more efficient at converting power from the wall to DC ,2 gold doesn't have anything to do woth quality

[analog hearth]

ah

[fossil cedar]

The corsair cx non m is like a b tier bronze unit

[analog hearth]

ah I meant CXm

[fossil cedar]

But usually other companies for budget psus

Corsair is very usually not good for perf/money

[analog hearth]

understandable though

I only use Corsair’s PSUs at this point after using a mouse and keyboard from them

but I’ve also had Vengeance RAM in my PC for years though (with no issue)

[frank stirrup]

As a proof of point the gigabyte p gm has alwas been 80+ gold

And it literally explodes

So

[fossil cedar]

The only good thing corsair can actually make is some cases

Because they just rebrand power supplies

[frank stirrup]

True

[analog hearth]

honestly I barely even like their cases

[frank stirrup]

X000D airflow lineup very nais

[fossil cedar]

Yup and the non airflow is fine especially if you get it for cheaper and corsair sends you out or you buy an airflow panel from them for not to much or just run no front panel

[earnest olive]

well duh, the explosion is gold color

[untold beacon]

I love gpu’s

[jade spindle]

question! my evga queue just popped for a ftw3 3080 and i can financially afford it at around 1k with shipping and tax. i'm currently running a ryzen 9 5900x with an rx580 8 gb so it'd be a hella huge upgrade, but would it make more sense to wait until the 40 series launch or the new radeon 7000s?

[fossil cedar]

thats a questions only you can really answer.... can you hold off for like 4-5 months

[jade spindle]

probably, but im worried we'll run into another huge gpu shortage when the new ones come out. my evga queue took about a year to pop

[fossil cedar]

i dont think so.... evga 3080 12gb ftw3's are actually available in stock for 1k atm

[jade spindle]

hm.. so you reckon when the 40 series drops it won't be insane to hope to get one? im figuring the 40 series will be a good bit better than the 30 series at around the same MSRP but who knows with this whole mess

[fossil cedar]

yeah the perf out of the 40 series is supposed to be a large jump but idk about the same msrps

[jade spindle]

ahh this is the worst part about pc building lmaooo get a 2 yr old card or wait and risk waiting for the new and better ones only to have the stock be scalped to hell

[little osprey]

Pc building: spend like 1-2k on a pc for it to not be good in a couple years time

[potent portal]

Who looks that far forward? I'm living in the now

[little osprey]

My mom

She be like: Son you just bought pc two years ago

[strong raft]

2 yrs doesn't automatically change how good a pc is. 1080 Ti was supreme for 1080p & still is dang good for that res even in some socalled aaa games. Some are optimized better than others.

[little osprey]

I mean. my pc was mid to begin with

[potent portal]

It takes a long time for a GPU to become so obsolete it can't run current games

[mossy venture]

even if it will, 30 series will be cheaper

people will panic sell just before the launch

[jade spindle]

thats true 😮 i think i may end up getting the 3080 and if i get my hands on a 40 series i'll just sell the 3080. net loss probably but still not bad

[mossy venture]

as in get a 3080 rn?

[south cliff]

Is it fine if i buy diffrent ram but same spec?

[autumn wolf]

yes/no

they could play nice or not

[ornate condor]

is 2tb samsung 970 evo plus for 165$ worth it ?

[mossy venture]

yeah

kinda

[sand falcon]

It's a good drive, I'd say hands down yes

[strong raft]

12GB 3080 under $900 would be pretty good. I'm probably headed for a 3070, but we'll see. I do like the 80 tiers, & more than 8GB would be good. Oh heck, even the 10GB 3080 would be nice for the right price.

[strong raft]

Think that was a very temporary deal on amazon. I was reading reddit msgz about it.

[junior crescent]

https://mikepc.com.au/products/rtx-3070-32gb-3200mhz-ram-i5-10400f-500gb-nvme-ssd-1tb-hdd Is this a good deal?

[potent portal]

That's in AUD?

Oh hell no they have a gigabyte pgm in there

What garbage can did they dig that bomb out of?

[potent portal]

If you change the power supply to something that won't explode then yes, that's not much more than it would cost to build yourself. The parts themselves are mostly sensible, except that power supply.

[mossy venture]

Even then it's not exactly worth it at that proce

[potent portal]

Still better parts than most prebuilts, and actually lists them

[mossy venture]

Eh, even in Australia that's super overpriced

[bright dome]

#building-and-recc-chat message I bought mine for 185.00 and I love it

[mossy venture]

Why would you respond that way instead of just selecting the reply option

[bright dome]

I'm dumb

[little osprey]

Lol i think they’re unfamiliar with the feature

Point still gets across

[bright dome]

I have a memory question

DDR$3600 and 4000 is their a perormance diffrence if so is it noticeable?

DDR4

[stoic island]

What timings

[bright dome]

right now i am runnin g what poet told me to get the 3600 cl16

my system runs kick ass just curious

BTW thanks to everyone here that helped mee build it

[stoic island]

3600c16 and 4000c18 perform near the same ignoring imc things

[mossy venture]

I guess there's worse than it... https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/WFTPXy

[potent portal]

When I parted it out it was 2k AUD not including software

[mossy venture]

Ye but why buy 10700 and a z590 new anymore

[potent portal]

And it includes a monitor

[mossy venture]

Oh it does?

Ig with a psu replacement it's fine

[mossy venture]

Thought gpu prices had gotten better in upside down land

[potent portal]

1080p 27" but it's something

[mossy venture]

Yeah

[bright dome]

i got the 3060Ti and love it

paid around 550 for it, that was the only change I did to the specs the peeps here told me to get

so glad I followed everyones advice building my PC, it runs like a dream

[potent portal]

Awesome! That's what we like to hear

[little osprey]

W

not bad for price wise

[little osprey]

🤨

3600/6600xt on a pro vdh for $1700 cad...

[buoyant patrol]

Must be some Amazon prices or smth…

[little osprey]

Fr

[potent portal]

A lot of questionable choices there too

All corsair build, fine if that's your thing, but that memory...

[little osprey]

Hey at least they are happy lmao

i guess thats what really matters in the end to 99.99% of people

[earnest olive]

$1600 of it is the corsair fans

[onyx whale]

@frigid night ello ello

[frigid night]

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B099MLJ8DX/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o09_s00?ie=UTF8&th=1

super cheap. but pretty darn sturdy

wait

[onyx whale]

pretty big! i'm looking for a 55 about.

[frigid night]

hm that's not the one

idk why that link popped up

let me find the right one

hm

looks like the link that is in my orders takes me to an entirely different desk

weird.

[onyx whale]

maybe they stopped making yours.

[frigid night]

possibly, but I just got it like 5 weeks ago

[onyx whale]

https://www.fezibo.com/products/fezibo-brasa-electric-height-adjustable-standing-desk?variant1=39848703950917&variant2=39848702869573&accessories=

i've been looking at this

Is Wayfair reliable?

[frigid night]

ok so in that link I sent. thje last option that says available for like 120$ is the one I got except 55"

and it was only $20 lol

the rustic brown one

[onyx whale]

that one?

[frigid night]

yeah

except mine is 55"

yep that is what mine look slike

[onyx whale]

nice!

is it hard wood or reclaimed?

[frigid night]

not hard wood

[onyx whale]

ahh mdf is plywood

gotcha

[frigid night]

it's uhm

yeah

but the top part is

something else

[onyx whale]

nice.

thanks for the heads up

[frigid night]

the wood looking part is like fake lol

[onyx whale]

I was thinking Bamboo even though it's a grass and not wood.

would be a good choice

[frigid night]

I don't mind though because I have my magic mats sitting on top

[onyx whale]

you are a magic mat.

I hope you have a good day tomorrow.

[frigid night]

yep you too 🙂

[onyx whale]

i've been scouring Facebook Marketplace lol

that's not awful for $50

But I need them to deliver thats my problem

[strong raft]

no it is not. 🤣 - Tha't s a nice desk for $50 btw, also why I like having a truck. Moving that around wouldn't be fun though.

[onyx whale]

My ass can't drive that's the issue. lmao

Seizures are a pain in the arse

[onyx whale]

my uncle DOES have a truck but he's busy more often than not.

https://www.upliftdesk.com/uplift-v2-standing-desk-v2-or-v2-commercial/?gclid=CjwKCAjwu_mSBhAYEiwA5BBmf1qfUv94VYjY0ETX_AocnAo1scCddrRAlT5Ns-0o0H7ZSSNP4VJ9QxoCdb4QAvD_BwE

I'm thinking maybe I should get the desk first, before the RAM, or the presumed 3080 12gb

[strong raft]

I'd tell em $70 if they delivered, lol.

[onyx whale]

heck yeah for sure.

"put it in the corner for me and i'll make it $100"

i have a bookshelf though I would maybe need to move

[strong raft]

I like desks that can at least handle me standing on em. Next desk I buy/build might just be a solid core door on 4x4" legs or something.

[onyx whale]

there's a lotta space there

yeah yeah i know i need to clean up a bit

[still roost]

catmancatplan#4204 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[strong raft]

yea a desk could go by that window - imagine if bot was smart enough to warn and just block out the supposed curse words but still show a message, haha.

[onyx whale]

indeed

time to keep watching The Batman -- now streaming btw!

[potent portal]

A discord addon could theoretically do that, but it would have to be client side

[frank stirrup]

Yo falcie i started work on porting pixel experience to my samsung a52

Im having a lotta fun

[strong raft]

oh neat. no biggie though. catmanplan, can't believe I haven't seen it yet. Going to maybe tomorrow finally

[potent portal]

That should be a fun project yeah

[frank stirrup]

It is. Its gonna be a pain as well but will be my first custom os so am hyped about it

[frigid night]

I would much rather have that desk

[onyx whale]

In a few days about a week. I get paid and am gonna see if they can bring it

[peak bridge]

tbh, not bad at all

Better storage than simplicity

[onyx whale]

I wood really like it.

[peak bridge]

Yes, because most of the pc desk are about thin desk, thin desk legs and yea

I mean, for design tho

but ill prefer storage

and plus the colour of the desk looks like from the 1900s which is nice

[onyx whale]

I'm from the late 1900s we have something in common

[peak bridge]

Wow

Coincidence

[peak bridge]

i see how the mods work

[obsidian wigeon]

that's just the bot

[little osprey]

my current desk is so sad im not sure i even wanna share a picture of it

the one i have in my dorm is very nice though

[burnt glen]

Either a cheap workstation or a prebuilt is what i need

[little osprey]

i meant what's the computer gonna be used for specifically. im curious because you used the word workstation

[burnt glen]

It needs to be good enough to play minecraft at 40 or 50 frames and to do schoolwork

Ik it sounds stupid

[little osprey]

how much can you spend? also are you in the US?

it doesnt sound stupid lol

[burnt glen]

I can spend around 100 or when i get re employed, around 200 or 300

[fossil cedar]

Yikes

[little osprey]

i see the outline of an x79 build forming

did you wanna build it yourself or do you just need a system?

[burnt glen]

I just need whatever parts i can find and slap em together into a rig, if its prebuilt thats fine aswell

[little osprey]

what country are you in

[burnt glen]

America. The people who i was talkin to last night said looking locally would be good

[little osprey]

yea that can definitely be a good option

Im thinking it'd be best to look for an older workstation. like an HP Z420 or Z440, and similar systems from dell and whatnot

[fossil cedar]

Locally or not second hand is basically your only option

[burnt glen]

Lemme check into those systems

[little osprey]

probably out of your budget though, optiplex's are a good bet too

try to find systems to you that have 3rd or 4th gen i5's or i7's that seem like a good price. then post those listings here so we can take a look.

I can check eBay in the meantime to see if there's anything good there. hopefully shipping costs dont kill the price

[burnt glen]

Ok

[little osprey]

@burnt glen do you already have a drive that you can transfer to the new PC? like from your current PC or something

[burnt glen]

Yeah i looked into the z series prebuilts

[burnt glen]

Tons

[little osprey]

drives that wont die in a year and arent horribly slow?

[burnt glen]

Yeah

[little osprey]

alright lol

[burnt glen]

I have like 4 i can swap out rn, might need to move data but thats alr

[little osprey]

im finding a lot of good systems on ebay rn, ill send my best picks in a bit

[burnt glen]

Alr thank you good sire

Zamn

[little osprey]

link?

[burnt glen]

This wouldve been perfect

[little osprey]

oh its oos

[burnt glen]

https://www.gvsusurplusstore.com/2013-dell-optiplex-7010-43447069.html

Bro

What the heck did i find here

This shib looks really scam like

[little osprey]

ChatterVox Original Complete Plus

[burnt glen]

Its a universities electronics surplus store

So weird

[little osprey]

that untested server looks interesting

you shouldnt get it though lol

[burnt glen]

https://www.gvsusurplusstore.com/untested-server.html

Thats what im sayin

It looks hella interesting

[little osprey]

Cheaper Option
https://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-Z420-Workstation-Intel-xeon-E5-1650-3-20GHz-12GB-AMD-Video-Working-No-HDD-/134077829082

Expensive Option
https://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-Z440-PC-3-50GHz-E5-1650-v3-32GB-RAM-256SSD-1TBHDD-Win-11-Quadro-/255496374798

If you can afford the more expensive one, I'd go for it. As for the cheaper one, he has offers enabled so if you want that one you should try offering something like 130 first. If you need a cheaper system I can send one

Both of these have unlocked CPUs btw, so you could overclock if you wanted to. Pretty sure these systems' BIOS's let you overclock

[burnt glen]

Yeah i would def buy if i had the money rn but i cant put my last 200 bucks into these sadly

Those are really great deals tho

[little osprey]

the cheaper one is still too expensive rn?

[burnt glen]

Its the same price for me

Ah

Nvm

[little osprey]

the 2nd one's price is the current bid, with the buy it now option + shipping it's about 250

[burnt glen]

Yeah

[little osprey]

do you need me to look for a cheaper system?

[burnt glen]

Honestly i might just wait until im re employed, then i should be able to afford the more expensive one

[little osprey]

how long will that be?

it could be out of stock by then, but that shouldnt matter because there would likely be a lot of other good deals though

[burnt glen]

Start of may

[little osprey]

oh pretty soon

[burnt glen]

Yea

[little osprey]

good luck 👍

[burnt glen]

ye

[little osprey]

btw, these systems are really cheap to upgrade

especially the ones with the x79/c602 ones, ECC DDR3 is dirt cheap, not to mention the cpus

[burnt glen]

Alr

Heh

Looked at the x79/c602 gen motherboards and they def fit the 2010 gaming aesthetic

[little osprey]

be careful not to stumble into x58 territory lol

[viral ore]

lol

[little osprey]

this is #building-and-recc-chat

lmao

[little osprey]

gigabyte b660 gaming x, asus prime b660, or msi tomahawk b660? ignoring price because they are fluctuating a lot

[fossil cedar]

Why not msi b660 a pro

[analog pulsar]

just wondering if you know this is build chat

[visual notch]

ooops, lol

Misclicked

[little osprey]

Isn’t this matx tho

[fossil cedar]

yeah but doesnt matter unless you need a lot of pcie

[little osprey]

Mm true

[frigid night]

My ex is wanting to get a PC. She won't be playing many games except learning games for our daughter and maybe something like bejeweled and stuff like diablo 3 (graphics don't have to be top of the line as she doesn't care so much about that). She will want to watch movies on it and browse the internet. Should I go with a prebuilt or can I build her a pc that will do all that for cheaper? Will be using a 24" 1080p monitor.

we were entertaining the idea of a smaller pc if possible?

[fossil cedar]

I'd probably grab this with a 1650 super then add if that's the kind of pc the want otherwise a cheap af 10400 pc maybe
https://www.hp.com/us-en/shop/pdp/hp-pavilion-gaming-desktop-tg01-2170m-pc-3v2z3av-1
https://pcpartpicker.com/mr/amazon/ckJgXL
https://pcpartpicker.com/mr/lenovo/gHNxFT

Or like 10100

Something like this
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3nJgbK

[potent portal]

It's almost always cheaper to build. During the peak of the shortage was the exception, when you couldn't find a reasonably priced GPU anywhere.

[ornate condor]

3200mhz cl22

[fossil cedar]

Yes because no xmp on hp boards

[ornate condor]

oh

[little osprey]

Yes. i can verify that

[quasi scroll]

I just got the last of my pc parts (power supply, monitor, and keyboard) from newegg and I'm hella excited I've waited 3 years, just thought I'd say it here

[little osprey]

W. send the build in #build-pics when you get to mee6 level 3 and complete your build

[high yew]

good case suggestions w 3 preinstalled fans?

w good airflow

have a td500 rn and idk

[onyx whale]

Get her an hp pavilion

[onyx whale]

https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-iCUE-4000X-Mid-Tower-Case/dp/B08C76W2WM/ref=asc_df_B08C76W2WM/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=475692076734&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=11180473620035854771&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9031543&hvtargid=pla-1154388973392&psc=1

[high yew]

whats the diff between this and the 4000d airflow if i may ask?

[onyx whale]

not a damn clue

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/corsair-4000x-4000d-airflow-review

[little osprey]

X has solid front panel

and rgb fans

D airflow has airflow front panel

idk any other major things

[high yew]

i have a td500 rn and it's alright just the cable management on it is awful

i didn't do HORRIBLE at it, but there's no room for any wires to go through, and to the point the back panel is popped out a lil bit

wouldn't kill me to order a new case and send this one back and get my money back, just need to order another fan for the backend but

[mossy venture]

Mx330-g air if you don't care about looks

[high yew]

and, i know some wires are supposed to poke out a lil bit actually connecting to said thing, but it's a lil brutal that i gotta run a wire across my entire mobo to connect it lol

[high yew]

i do a lil bit

[mossy venture]

Otherwise, p360a digital would be my next choice

[high yew]

i'm already $2600 down on this thing, mine as well go for looks lol

[mossy venture]

Check out p360a digital then

And if the price has come down, p400a digital

[high yew]

phantek?

[mossy venture]

Yes

If its still over $100, I'd say stick with p360a digital or 4000d airflow

[high yew]

does x still have good airflow going through it though?

i'd go w a p120 crystal but too expensive, and i'd have to buy fans

[mossy venture]

Not as good, I'd imagine mediocre at best

[high yew]

erm

my td500 was $150, plus the other fan around $175

so if i can under $200 for a case, with fans, i'll be cooling

literally

heh

[mossy venture]

That's a super high case budget

P400a digital then, though it's overpriced compared to 4000d airflow atm

[high yew]

in canada

i should mention

[mossy venture]

Ah

[still roost]

j.acob#7187 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[mossy venture]

Alright one minute

[high yew]

ffs

wonder how many times im gonna get one of those then get booted

[little osprey]

you can just join back

if you get kicked

[high yew]

i mean i don't plan on it, but i got a potty mouth so it's naturally comin outa there

[mossy venture]

I'm trying to remember the name of the case pato suggested a while ago for Canada

I think it was Thermaltake smthn but I can't remember

[high yew]

i just looked at my pcpp list and it was $176 for the td500 and 1 case fan

so yeah anything under $200 that's black, has good airflow, can support a 360mm rad on top or front idc, and is compatible with gigabytes fusion software

[mossy venture]

Any reason you don't want the 4000d airflow?

[high yew]

gotta buy fans LMFAO

literally only reasdon why

[mossy venture]

Theyre easy to add

Like, literally four screws and a wire

[high yew]

yeah i know, but would be better if it was just already preinstalled

lil more bang for the buck

lemme check how much they are

[mossy venture]

Not really how bang for buck works

There's not many cases with good airflow that are same price or cheaper

Artic p12s are very cheap

And are great for their price, some of the best fans on the market

[still roost]

j.acob#7187 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[high yew]

omg

i stg

if i woulda got the td500 for it's original 109.99 price in cad, i'd be paying abt $120 for the case, 3 preinstalled argb fans, and a mid controller

so kinda bang for buck, but i get what your saying

$114.99 at best buy for 4000d, but sold out

white one is available tho

[mossy venture]

4000d airflow is the good version of it

[high yew]

yes lol

[mossy venture]

I've not heard anything about the td500

So I can't tell you if it's good or not

From taking a quick look it seems like it'd be alright

[high yew]

just wanna get something compatible with the gigabyte app so i can have everything sync together and not have an inconvience of having my 4 fans on controller, gpu and everything else on app. it doesn't sink up and it's annoying

something that really shouldn't bother me but the cable management is horrendous on the backside, absolutely zero space for any wires you have

[mossy venture]

@earnest olive how's the td500?

[high yew]

i don't like it personally, he may, i don't

[mossy venture]

Compared to meshify c and 4000d airflow

[earnest olive]

td500 mesh isn't a bad case, stock fans made a clicking noise at low rpms that drove me crazy, not sure if that was a one off or a problem with the product

i'd take it over meshify c

but i'd take 4000d airflow over it depending on price

[mossy venture]

About the same price, but fans not included with 4000d

[high yew]

mine doesn't have a clicking noise and i'm not at high rpms

[mossy venture]

Nor controller

[high yew]

so maybe just bad luck

[mossy venture]

Then seems like td500 is your winner

[high yew]

comparing how i screwed the single back fan in compared to front, front ones seem like they're on loose

[earnest olive]

yeahh the 4000d airflow is supposed to be like $40 cheaper than the td500 mesh

and for $40 you could buy your own fans and controller

[high yew]

in canada it ain't

[earnest olive]

but if they're the same price get the td500 mesh

[high yew]

td500 mesh is 109.99, while the 400d is 114

BUT then again, you get 3 fans with it

[earnest olive]

110 cad is a really good price

[high yew]

oh i know

i got mine for $140 because it spiked for 1 day though??

[onyx whale]

I had a 400D now i have a cougar

[high yew]

made zero sense

[mossy venture]

Mx330-g is $65 rn, but only one exhaust fan included. G air is like 179 lol

[onyx whale]

https://cougargaming.com/products/cases2/mx330_g/

[mossy venture]

With what

What's your budget, where do you live

[high yew]

no

no laptop

no no

bad

[earnest olive]

r/laptopdeals

[mossy venture]

Aight one minute

[onyx whale]

Asus Zephyrus G14

[mossy venture]

Well actually

What's the point of the laptop

[high yew]

^

[mossy venture]

Gaming, productivity, etc

[earnest olive]

laptops get too much hate lol

[high yew]

they should

jk i had one for my first

wasn't terrible

[earnest olive]

how much was your pc?

wanna compare it against my laptop?

[onyx whale]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyClS3qQV10

[high yew]

$2600

and sure

bring it on

hahahaha

[earnest olive]

got time spy?

[high yew]

nop

i can though

[earnest olive]

i have a $1265 laptop that's almost tied with a ryzen 7 5800x on the cpu side and beats a desktop 3060ti on the gpu side

and includes a 240hz screen in that price

[high yew]

us?

[earnest olive]

yeah

[high yew]

$1600 cad

not terriblr at all

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outputs the same fps as my 3090 desktop because it's at 1080p instead of 1440p

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hahahaha

cad market is dog though

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gaming laptops are pretty good now

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what laptop is it

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msi gp66 leopard

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ill tell you how much it is cad

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i remember one dude in general chat

said all laptops are useless compared to his 3060ti

i showed him my laptop's time spy score

and it was 10% higher than his desktop

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what model

https://gyazo.com/8c1e70d98e9399751bc5b73b62dfc1b0

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he acted like i literally broke him lmao

11UG-018

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not listed

LMFAO

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sus

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give me uno momento

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rommy sus

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https://www.newegg.ca/core-black-msi-gp-series-gp66-leopard-11ug-018-gaming-entertainment/p/N82E16834155855

regardless it's over $2000 in cad

even if that ain't the right laptop, it's over 2 grand

gonna go have a polite talking to with trudeau

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my laptop is also a lot easier to take with me on vacation than my 30 kilo? pc setup

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brb

lmfaooo

hell yeah it is

thats the only convienent thing w em

i loved mine when i had it, but mobo gave out

chucked it in the bin

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i spilled liquid metal directly on my laptop's mobo

it's still goin

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LMFAO

trooper

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it's mining behind me right now

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smh

jk

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i bought a way better laptop than i needed because i figured i could just mine on it when i wasn't using it

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😂

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think it has paid for itself in full by now

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i wanna get into that

when gpu prices drop

build a rig to make me money

would be sick

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you missed the train

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fu

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gpu prices are dropping because mining is dying

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ill bring them back up

just me

no one else

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my 3090 only makes $4/day now

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just because i'll buy one everyone will

$4 a day = car wash

ez

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and i have solar

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as in