#building-and-recc-chat

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potent portal
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Yeah the 1650 isn't so bad though

earnest olive
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e5-1660 is $60, e5-2665 is $8.69

fast dirge
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For Photoshop/Lightroom would you want better core speed or more cores?

earnest olive
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ah, the e5-1650 is is $22, not bad

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e5-1650 turbos to 3.8ghz on 6 cores, e5-2665 turbos to 3.1ghz on 8 cores

potent portal
earnest olive
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interesting

potent portal
fast dirge
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Where you seeing it for $22?

earnest olive
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hmm passmark places the e5-2665 higher in MT

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but not that much higher

potent portal
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By 150 points lol

earnest olive
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yeah, e5-1650 is probably a better choice

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guess there's a reason the 2665 is $9

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$22 is still a great price

fast dirge
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For sure, $22 is still great

potent portal
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I have the 1650 in my home server, it's great for plex and storage

earnest olive
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hmm any chance the e5 v2s work in that board?

fast dirge
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Can I just take the old CPU out and drop this in?

earnest olive
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yeah absolutely

potent portal
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Depends on bios

fast dirge
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But nothing else physical? No extra bits or whatever?

desert gulch
earnest olive
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gonna need new thermal paste yes

desert gulch
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Like $5 for a tube

fast dirge
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Ya, I'll grab a tube 😊 thanks for the reminder

desert gulch
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Np

earnest olive
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i forgot too lol

desert gulch
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xD

earnest olive
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interesting

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this workstation got a bios update in 2019

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it doesn't say anything about adding support for v2 cpus though

potent portal
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I'm not seeing v2 anywhere either

earnest olive
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of course dell would distribute a bios update as an exe

fast dirge
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I'm out for now - thank you so much! I'll be back of I need help with the BIOS ☺️ have a good day y'all 🥳💖

earnest olive
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oh, the v2 cpus use a different chipset (C602)

worn wave
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T3610 are V2

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T3600 are V1

earnest olive
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oh, interesting, the e5-2687W apparently works in the T3600

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that's an 8 core with the same turbo clocks as the 1650

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$44 though

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not officially supported due to too high TDP but i saw some people saying they got it running

potent portal
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You could probably ask our resident xeon lover

earnest olive
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far?

tribal crater
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I have my pc built and have a lot of rgb from different companies, ordered a new keyboard Corsair K100 and theNexus to go wit it. Will the Icue software cause me problems with with all my other rgb? Do I chance connecting these or just return them and get the Logi G915 lightspeed keyboard to go with my mouse? I really don't want to have issues with all my RGB getting messed up as it was a pain to get everything from all these places to sync up in the first place. Anyone have experience with Icue working with other parts and software from other companies?

potent portal
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When you're mixing vendors like that sometimes you'll have luck using signalrgb or openrgb, so you can use a single program for all of them

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Or at least use that for most and the incompatible stuff can use its own

tribal crater
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Not trying to use or sync Icue just use it for the keyboard stand alone and the nexus aas a monitor

potent portal
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(stupid nvidia FE cards only work with PX1 software)

earnest olive
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icue is the problem

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openrgb does work on corsair keyboards

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not sure about corsair mouse but probably

tribal crater
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Thank's right now it's all synced with fusion except for one of my back fans which is TT and I do run my ram seperate with Gskills trident as it just has better looks then fusion offers

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Got a Logi gaming mouse only thing Corsair would be the keyboard and the nexus. I probably should have got the keyboard to match the mouse but really liked this old corsair keyboard

potent portal
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Logi mice work in openrgb

earnest olive
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can confirm that

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i love openrgb

tribal crater
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Probably just get the G915 keyboard then and return this Corsair stuff

earnest olive
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once i build my new keyboard openrgb should also support it over QMK

potent portal
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I use it in my linux install. Syncs all my stuff except my gpu.

earnest olive
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are you on the latest version?

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the latest version started supporting all my gpus

potent portal
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Even the 30 series FE?

earnest olive
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oh

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probably not lol

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i don't have any FE cards

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isn't the led in the FE card white only?

potent portal
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Nope, there's 2. One is white the other is RGB.

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The "GEFORCE RTX" is white

earnest olive
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interesting

potent portal
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I'm on 0.71, is there an update?

earnest olive
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0.7 is the one that started supporting all my gpus

potent portal
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Yeah latest official release is 0.7, I'm on a version I compiled that's newer

earnest olive
tardy knoll
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I'd assume feeds overall PC data to something but? It's not in use lol

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The back of this PC is a mess so many things are intertwined instead of just layered I'm gonna have to unplug basically everything. Any videos y'all would recommend on better understand what all these diff wires are for? Watching build videos isn't very helpful it's always just watching them put stuff together with minimal explanations because they expect the viewers to already know the basics.

potent portal
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That's the rgb controller

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If the rgb is working and you can control it with software then that wouldn't be necessary to plug in

earnest olive
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probably to hook up the RGB controller to software sync

tardy knoll
tardy knoll
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Dang I didn't know there were PC building simulators that's pretty cool

earnest olive
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motherboard RGB header

tardy knoll
# earnest olive motherboard RGB header

So it's currently plugged into the back of the Mobo and gets plugged into Mobo somewhere else? There's also 2 plugs on the end that isn't hooked to anything

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these PC building simulators are freaking awesome. Watching a YouTube about it..that could be a helpful way to learn

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I wouldn't know what to do with one currently though. I need to know more about the diff parts used still

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I couldn't even tell you where the ram stuff is on the Mobo. It's really bugging me I can't find like a clear cut way to just learn this stuff. So much nonsense on YouTube

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Or stuff already past my knowledge level

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I'd love to get control of all the RGB on this PC though. Can even the strip under Asus on the GPU be changed??

earnest olive
tardy knoll
earnest olive
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oh i thought you meant actually plugged into the mobo

tardy knoll
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Top left corner says PC data. Then it's not hooked to anythjnf else and has two plugs on the end of it

earnest olive
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that's the rgb controller it's not part of the mobo

tardy knoll
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Oh I thought that was backside of motherboard my bad

earnest olive
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if you hook it up to the mobo then whatever is plugged into it (probably the fans you can't control) can be software controlled

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(probably)

tardy knoll
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Hm.. well what about the button on top of the case that does those 3 fans would I need to change that too?

elfin flame
tardy knoll
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So is one of the two plugs from the cpu fan that are plugged into Mobo for the LEDs and could be plugged into the controller instead?. I see now, the 3 front fans are only thing hooked to the controller.

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So I could get it all on the button for the case couldn't I?

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I feel like one of the plugs is in fact for the CPU LEDs and could be plugged into that controller on the rear. But the spot it's plugged into now on mobo says "Add_gen 2.2" ?

earnest olive
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that is the correct header

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for ARGB

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so your software can control the cpu fan but not the case fans?

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you could plug the cpu cooler into the controller than plug the controller into the mobo

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unless your mobo has more than 1 argb header then you could just plug the controller into the other header

tardy knoll
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I don't even know if I have any software. The cpu fan is on default I guess. And I control the front three case fans with the button on top of case that goes to the RGB controller on back of PC.

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I'm so confused what to do. The cpu fan RGB is plugged into this individual RGB spot,

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Couldn't I just move it to the RGB controller on the back....or if plug the PC data coord in from controller to mobo will I get control of cpu fan that way?

earnest olive
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yes

tardy knoll
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Yes to which option? Both?

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I can't figure out where the PC data plugs will go on the Mobo either. I don't see where it would fit.

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I'm so lost this is getting frustrating

potent portal
high yew
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is there a HUGE difference between a Asus KO 3060 ti OC and an Asus KO OC 3070 ? debating on a $100 price difference for the 3070

little osprey
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how much is each

high yew
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not worried abt pricing tbh, anything under $900 for a gpu is cool, i just wanna know if there’s a huge difference between the two

high yew
desert gulch
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The 3070ti for $720 is a decent deal rn

high yew
desert gulch
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I mean for a 100cad difference the 3070 would be very similar dollar to performance as the 3060ti

little osprey
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what resolution you playing at

earnest olive
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3070 vs 3060ti is like a 15% performance difference, your call whether that will be worth it for games you currently play or games you plan to play in the future

high yew
little osprey
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if the games ur playing are gpu demanding i’d go for 3070

high yew
little osprey
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Otherwise 3060ti is perfectly fine

high yew
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thanks*

little osprey
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What games u playin tho

earnest olive
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both are fine at 1440p, but I'd rather have the 3070 at 1440p personally

high yew
earnest olive
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I dailied a 3070 at 1440p for a bit

little osprey
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If u can afford the 3070 go for it

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cad

high yew
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yes lol

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it went up $100 which i’m waiting for it to drop

earnest olive
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850 cad is alright

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yeah around 700

high yew
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679

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yup v2 too

earnest olive
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but you guys have higher tax too

high yew
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yeah 11%

earnest olive
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so closer to 700

high yew
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so $850 is actually

little osprey
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tax is like 10.5 here 😭💀

high yew
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943

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which is ew but

earnest olive
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oh only 11?

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that's not that bad

high yew
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yeah 5% gst 6% pst

earnest olive
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my city is at 8.75, my gf's city is at 10.25

still roostBOT
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j.acob#7187 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

high yew
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smh

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y’all are so lucky, this cad tax shiznit is brutal

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is what i MEANT to say

little osprey
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It used to be 9.5 here but now it 10.5

earnest olive
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we're lucky until we need an ambulance

little osprey
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fr

high yew
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$945 for a 3070 KO OC V2

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what y’all think?

earnest olive
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wow rommy

high yew
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WAIT A MINUTE

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wait

earnest olive
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I thought you loved me

little osprey
high yew
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it’s original 799.99

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$888

high yew
earnest olive
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but I am healthy

high yew
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if it goes down another $100 which is what i want

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799.99 x 1.11 = $888

earnest olive
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my brain is a geforce 210 with a core2 duo e8400

high yew
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3070 KO

earnest olive
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and 512mb ddr2

high yew
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LMFAO

earnest olive
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running microsoft bob OS

high yew
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pain

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Windows Vista

earnest olive
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off of a 2gb ide hard drive that makes demon noises

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okay

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bring your 3090 over

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we will play fortnite rtx

little osprey
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no building 💀

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Boba is mid

earnest olive
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sure I'll treat you

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I actually had a 3 slot SLI bridge

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but I sold it

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idk who actually bought that

little osprey
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Chef rommy

earnest olive
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it came with a mobo I bought for a customer

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why bundle an SLI bridge in 2021 lmao

little osprey
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isn’t sli basically a meme now

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since you don’t gain any practical performance from it

earnest olive
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SLI generally decreases gaming performance now

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seen up to 40% decrease in some games

little osprey
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But it’s good for like GPU heavy rendering stuff right

earnest olive
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with 2 2080ti in nvlink vs 1 2080ti

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I don't think you even need nvlink to do multigpu renders

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just have the gpus in there

little osprey
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Wait facts

earnest olive
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but I'm not sure, I don't render

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I know my 3070s are able to do innocent cuda workloads together without any kind of link

little osprey
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Smh

tardy knoll
earnest olive
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i remember seeing 4 gt 710s in sli

little osprey
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Bro

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Just get a better gpu

earnest olive
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4 gt 710 worse than 1 gt 710

little osprey
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So much effort wasted

obsidian wigeon
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sli bad

tardy knoll
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I just plugged cpu fan into the RGB controller... Plugging the controller into Mobo isn't giving me control thru the software. I think it's conflicting with the case button that can also control the controller... So I just put CPU plug into controller for now and can control it all with the button on the case

tardy knoll
tardy knoll
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Figured out issue. Gotta tell case I'm using Mobo and aura sync instead of button

mossy venture
tardy knoll
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Yayyyy

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I got all my RGB working on aura sync now

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Robeytech discord helped me out. It was just the case button conflicting the Mobo having control of the rgb

little osprey
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w

fast dirge
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Does it matter what str rating you use on a CPU?

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Str rating thermal paste*

obsidian wigeon
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What str?

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w/mk you meant?

fast dirge
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Stc sorry

obsidian wigeon
jagged ember
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that is still confusing

obsidian wigeon
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Still confusing

jagged ember
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stc isn't a rating as far as I know

fast dirge
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Thank you 😊

shy coyote
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Just built a 12400 tower

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love it

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m.2 4.0 rocks !!

little osprey
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Yay cool

potent portal
celest horizon
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mx-5 is great as well, buy whatever is cheaper in the quantity you need

tardy knoll
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Also found my new favorite type of remixed music. Drill remixes... Makes sense as I did percussion in highschool and was on quite the good team

potent portal
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Music synced lights are so fun.
I like my rgb practical so it's set to CPU temp color.

tardy knoll
shy coyote
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just built a 12400 tower

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w/ a 3060

tardy knoll
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Was on indoor drumline in highschool and we placed 11th in the world our first year doing it. And performed horribly at that lol, we'd been practicing in a high school gym for months and then all the sudden in a nfl stadium the sound was so off we all dragged time because it caught us off guard.. still took 11th lol

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Ok it's official. I'm ordering a soundboard soon

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I've had it in my head for years I wanna make remixes of songs and just add on to the beats. And now I'm finding people already do it. Oh I'm in lol, I bet I could destroy some songs

little osprey
shy coyote
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2 x 27" 144hz @ 1440p

little osprey
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Ah cool

shy coyote
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love the m.2 4.0, so fast !!

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Crucial P5 m.2 4.0

potent portal
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Yeah, and you'll be ready once more games support Microsoft direct storage. Nice.

shy coyote
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The i5-12400 is plenty powerful too

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and good value

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With the asus b660 mobo, you actually get m.2 4.0 on primary m.2 slot, coupled w/ the Crucial P5 Plus m.2 4.0 it is actual read speed of 6600Mbps

little osprey
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that’s insane

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Mines is like 1500mbps max

strong raft
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8 thread gang. Bye bye 3550.

earnest olive
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@sacred rivet curious about the decision to get braided gpu power cables but not braided mobo power cable?

sacred rivet
earnest olive
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i see

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nice build

little osprey
earnest olive
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you missed an lga2011 chat earlier

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though it was C600 and not X79

little osprey
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Just as good

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C602 is still 💪

earnest olive
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dude came in asking about upgrades for his dell precision T3600

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recommended an e5-1650

little osprey
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Yea that's a good chip, though I'd probably go for an ivybridge one

earnest olive
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couldn't find any proof that it supported v2s

little osprey
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Fair enough

earnest olive
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couldn't find any bios updates from dell that suggested it either

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bear in mind it is dell we're talking about lol

little osprey
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My dad got himself a z420 a few days ago, has a 1650 in it

earnest olive
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think dell would rather you buy a T3610 than upgrade the T3600 to a v2

little osprey
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definitely

strong raft
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Yeah I caught part of the talk. I'm reall unfamiliar with 2011 & most xeon stuff in general. Running cinebench as a quick speed/temp check then I'll try 3dmark before some gaming. Extra cache & 100MHz was a small bonus to 2x cpu threads. 3535 on cinebench. Max temp 51c & 49w says hwinfo

little osprey
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yea the e3 xeons arent particularly interesting imo, but its still cool how they're basically slight upgrades to their i5/i7 counterparts while also being cheaper

strong raft
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For sure. Instead of $60ish, it was $35ish so definitely worth a try. Worst case it just makes a slightly better spare rig. Oh yeah I ran 3dmark. Gained a solid 800ish cpu pts seems pretty healthy. Might have a bit lower cpu usage & better 99% lows in a couple games. Also found an 11700 I'm gonna bid on.

little osprey
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yea thats pretty cool

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it's good how slept on these older xeons get

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the 2680v3 is down to about 55 bucks, it's crazy

junior crescent
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Could someone make a pc list for 2000 AUD, for 1440p Ultra settings gaming, Game creation (Unity, unreal engine) and some light video editing

stoic island
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I felt like I made one 2 days ago

olive cypress
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On my mini homemade PC the back panel of the case is completely open and I'm scared of the back part of the CPU, I don't want to accidentally touchi it, short it, or anything...
What should I cover it with?

olive cypress
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Give me a few examples of what could I use (something that I probably have at home)

fossil cedar
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Plastic, cardboard

olive cypress
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I'll check what I've got
Thank you

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No heat problems since the 2400g stays at 23°C at idle

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🥶

fossil cedar
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Yeah that's pretty normal

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What happened to your back panel of the case?

olive cypress
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Because the case is homemade

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I cut it

fossil cedar
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Ahh

olive cypress
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This ugly thing here

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(in this foto the panel is not mounted)

wooden quartz
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Do there numbers look good?

frank stirrup
fossil cedar
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@orchid ruin please god no not ubm

orchid ruin
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ubm?

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oh

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why not

fossil cedar
fossil cedar
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orchid ruin
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okay then

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ill do heaven benchmark

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anyway

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I replaced the cooler with the latest noktua one because why not

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and it ended up amazing

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thank you so much!

fossil cedar
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If you want a good gaming performance benchmark use 3d mark timespy

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3dmark demo is free on steam

orchid ruin
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ill use it then

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ill ping you when its done

fossil cedar
tiny pelican
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I got the PC

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Processor Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2640 0 @ 2.50GHz, 2500 Mhz, 6 Core(s), 6 Logical Processor(s)

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16 GB RAM and 256 GB SSD, 500 GB Hard Drive

frank stirrup
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what gpu?

tiny pelican
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GIGABYTE GeForce 1660

frank stirrup
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nice

tiny pelican
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thats the best i could do in my budget

tiny pelican
fossil cedar
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Ntb

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How much?

tiny pelican
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480 USD

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88500 my currency

fossil cedar
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Nice find

orchid ruin
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@fossil cedar

buoyant abyss
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Hello all

fossil cedar
buoyant abyss
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I'm trying to put together a computer and would like professional help in looking over what I've chosen

fossil cedar
buoyant abyss
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U.S. 1500-2000. Day trading.

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Here is what I've selected so far

fossil cedar
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Okay that will get you a fantastic pc... How many monitors do you want to power?

buoyant abyss
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ryzen 5900x
Asus AM4 Tuf x570 plus wifi
Crucial balistix 3200 32 GB
MSI Ventus rtx 3060
Corsair 4000D case Mid
Corsair 750 Watt power
Corsair Hydro series H100i liquid cooler

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Looking to have the option for 4 monitors

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Wasn't sure about 5950X or 5900 and about the motherboard. Going for the B550 or 570

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Also Rog Stix v Tuf

tidal moth
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productivity?

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or gamuctivity?

fossil cedar
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I'll put together a list of what i would do

buoyant abyss
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Productivity

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Speed, stability

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Not going to be gaming much, if at all.

fossil cedar
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@buoyant abyss how many displays are you going to be running and what resolution?

tidal moth
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well the 5950x is a really capable productivity cpu

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I have one and its amazing

buoyant abyss
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2 to start then 3 then 4

fossil cedar
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Okay 👍

tidal moth
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so olmo my 5950x shreds premier pro and blender

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so if you want to render and compile

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its pretty beast

marsh sluice
# buoyant abyss Productivity

I have both 5900x and 5950x. Both are great cpus and capable for your tasks. I would think the internet/networking speeds would impact you more.

tidal moth
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yeah thats true

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I cannot speak for the 5900x

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but im sure they are both awesome

buoyant abyss
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From what I've read it seems like both would be good. I'm just really ignorant and trying to make the best choice.

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I would like it all to last as well.

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Don't want to re do this too often

tidal moth
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they are really comparable cpus

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the 5900x is very slighty better for clock speed

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but the 5950x makes up for it with core count

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the price tag of the 5900x is really nice for what you get

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but the difference begins to show on seriously taxing renders and video editing

buoyant abyss
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Thanks

fossil cedar
tidal moth
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what is budget?

fossil cedar
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1500-2k but that's perfect for what they want

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They're gonna be doing trading

tidal moth
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nice thats perfect

fleet heron
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Trading?

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Wdym

fossil cedar
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They're gonna be doing trading as in stock n shares

fleet heron
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Oh

tidal moth
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I hit 25w on one of my 5950x cores so theoretically you could hit 400w on the cpu alone

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so if I would upgrade it would be the psu

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but thats right on budget

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so its swag

fossil cedar
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750w is plenty for a 5950x and a 3050 tho

tidal moth
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yeah definately

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just if he wants to expand his gpu

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gives him options in the future

fleet heron
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Y'all know to much lmao

fossil cedar
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If they want more than 4 displays just add another 3050 or something

tidal moth
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ahh

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did not consider that

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just thought they would get a big boy gpu

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thicc

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potentially

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hahaha

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im used to itx builds

fossil cedar
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No point since they don't even need 3050 power just the ports lol

tidal moth
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I only ever build its I forgot several slots exist lol

little osprey
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new gpu have so many ports

tidal moth
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itx

fleet heron
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You can have 2 GPUs?

little osprey
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My itx card has two ports 😭

tidal moth
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yes~

fossil cedar
little osprey
fleet heron
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Daymmm

tidal moth
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for a while they messed with nvlink

little osprey
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I don’t see a point of 4 gpus unless you’re like mining

tidal moth
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but its a fallacy now

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a dead concept

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no moe gaming

fleet heron
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My dad has beefy PC and I always wonder why he had to GPUs

tidal moth
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probably for monitors

fossil cedar
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Only reason to have more would be mining or Gpu heavy compute or just to power a lot of displays

tidal moth
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a lot of displays is the best non mining reason for having two gpus

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because they only have so many slots each

fleet heron
fleet heron
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Ah

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Oh

tidal moth
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my brother has a 2080 on his gaming monitor and his 1650 on his other monitors

fleet heron
#

Hm

earnest olive
#

why add another 3050 just for display

#

gt 1030 good enough

fossil cedar
earnest olive
#

sadly gt 710 no longer good enough as it'll hold you back from installing newer drivers

#

uhh

#

hdmi and dvi usually

tidal moth
#

yay

earnest olive
#

dvi can easily be adapted to hdmi

fossil cedar
#

Dvi :/

tidal moth
#

we love dvi

#

stop hating pato

fossil cedar
#

Yeah

earnest olive
#

I mean what's cheaper? a dvi to hdmi adapter, or a 3050

#

lol

fossil cedar
#

True lol

little osprey
#

Dvi is nice because it’s not vga

earnest olive
#

I just bought a dvi to hdmi adapter for $0.47 + $1 shipping

tidal moth
#

the chad port

#

dvi is gaming

#

the pure gaming essence

fleet heron
#

How much are 3050s anyway?

earnest olive
#

and it's one of the rigid adapters that sticks off of the port, no annoying cable

little osprey
#

ideally $249

tidal moth
#

right now or msrp?

fleet heron
fossil cedar
little osprey
#

😂😂😂

fleet heron
little osprey
#

Rn you can’t buy it for less than $300

#

No way in hell

fossil cedar
#

Msrp is manufacturer suggested retail price

fleet heron
#

Not even 300 is a steal

tidal moth
#

yeah so people buy up all the gpus and sell them at a higher price @fleet heron

buoyant abyss
#

I did the pc builder on newegg

tidal moth
#

so the market for gpus is pretty rought rn

fleet heron
tidal moth
#

rough*

earnest olive
#

alternatively if you want more display outs

#

swap that 5950x for a 12900K

buoyant abyss
#

Would it allow incompatible parts to go together there?

fleet heron
#

Kinda like the ps5

earnest olive
#

and get a mobo with HDMI + DP

fossil cedar
earnest olive
#

banned for not being corporate slave kappa

fossil cedar
tidal moth
#

you could use ddr5

obsidian wigeon
#

pc builder on wegg limits parts so much too

earnest olive
obsidian wigeon
#

^

earnest olive
#

power draw isn't that much different either

fossil cedar
earnest olive
#

241W PL2 on 12900K vs somewhere in the 200s for a 5950x

fleet heron
#

Ddr5 as in the ram?

fossil cedar
earnest olive
#

day traders also typically care about single core performance the most

fossil cedar
earnest olive
#

so 12900K wins there

tidal moth
#

but that 12900k also comes with much more heat

fossil cedar
#

Oh really i thought they needed multi?

earnest olive
#

it really doesn't

tidal moth
#

105tdp vs 125tdp

earnest olive
#

LOL

#

TDP

#

fun fact

little osprey
#

Fun fact

earnest olive
#

the formula for TDP doesn't even include power at any point

#

it's a completely made up bs number

tidal moth
#

interesting

earnest olive
#

I just said 5950x and 12900K power consumption is practically the same at load

little osprey
#

Lol

fossil cedar
#

It's so you can estimate cooler requirements

#

But basically useless

fleet heron
#

Shouldent we be talking in general?

earnest olive
#

if you put a cooler advertising itself as 125w tdp on either of those chips you're going to have a really bad time

little osprey
#

Nah

buoyant abyss
#

When purchasing windows 11 brand new for new build, get the usb flash? Or?

earnest olive
#

no? we're talking about a build

tidal moth
#

haha ikr lol

fleet heron
#

Oh we are?

earnest olive
#

@fleet heron do you already have a 5950x?

little osprey
tidal moth
#

that would not be epic

fleet heron
#

Huh

little osprey
#

😂

fossil cedar
earnest olive
#

you should switch to 12900K if you don't have the stuff already

little osprey
#

Bro is so confused

fossil cedar
fleet heron
#

I sold my pc

earnest olive
#

12900K has better single core, better multicore, and will get you more display outputs

little osprey
earnest olive
#

$20?

fleet heron
#

And brought some stocks

earnest olive
#

ok, get a core2 duo

fossil cedar
fleet heron
#

Kk lol

little osprey
#

W

earnest olive
#

oh

little osprey
#

Lmao!!!

fleet heron
#

Yea..

fossil cedar
#

Olmo is the one building

earnest olive
#

oops

buoyant abyss
#

I've been using a macbook for a long time, not much other experience

earnest olive
#

well

little osprey
#

Core 2 duo gaming

earnest olive
#

get a 12900K

tidal moth
#

my brothers 12900k hits 96c on 280 rad thats my reference point

#

I have reseated it for him

fleet heron
tidal moth
#

he just ocs it to hell

fossil cedar
#

They're not gaming .......

earnest olive
#

and my 5800x hits 90C on a 360mm rad

little osprey
earnest olive
#

what about it

tidal moth
#

my 5950x peaks around 81

little osprey
#

🤖

tidal moth
#

under 100% load

earnest olive
#

also

#

temps and power draw are only loosely correlated lol

tidal moth
#

yeah that i didnt know

#

i thought the connection was more concrete

earnest olive
#

zen 3 taught us that heat density is far more important now

tidal moth
#

just my point of reference is my brothers cpu

earnest olive
#

that's why 5800x runs hotter than 5950x

tidal moth
#

my 5950x peaks 15 degrees cooler than his 12900k

earnest olive
#

are you ocing it like he is?

fleet heron
fossil cedar
earnest olive
#

run 1.4 manual through your 5950x and watch it burn beehive_o_kekw

little osprey
earnest olive
#

I can get my 5800x to thermal throttle without overclocking it

buoyant abyss
#

Interestng

earnest olive
#

under a galahad 360

tidal moth
#

no but we have comparable scores

earnest olive
#

and 12 case fans

tidal moth
#

I dont oc my 5950x because of power consumption worries

#

3080 with 5950x on a 750w powersupply

earnest olive
#

lol you're fine

tidal moth
#

I have hit 25w per core

earnest olive
#

I ran 3600x + 3080 + 3070 on B tier 650w

earnest olive
tidal moth
#

I have

#

on stream

#

with forks

#

@ him

earnest olive
#

so you were drawing 430w CPU?

#

without oc?

little osprey
#

U @ him

tidal moth
#

he helped me set it up

#

yes

earnest olive
#

lol?

tidal moth
#

@celest horizon

#

you remember we looked at my cpu

#

in hwinfo64

earnest olive
#

do you have screenshots?

tidal moth
#

no unfortunately

#

but i was there with forks

#

he explained it to me

earnest olive
#

25w per core * 16 cores + 30w soc

#

430w?

#

custom loops can barely handle 20w per core

tidal moth
#

I dont understand it like forks

earnest olive
#

you running LN2 on stock settings?

tidal moth
#

no

#

lol

#

could be single core?

#

is that possible

earnest olive
#

single core sure I believe

tidal moth
#

okay that must have been it

#

but still

earnest olive
#

but no way you hit 25w on all cores

tidal moth
#

im scared of my power consumption

#

the thing is 2

earnest olive
#

the laws of physics will not allow that

tidal moth
#

my motherboard is itx

little osprey
#

Physics moment

tidal moth
#

whats that thing called

#

the meme

#

with power distro on my cpu

#

power steps?

#

power stages?

#

whats that called again

little osprey
#

electricity

tidal moth
#

:/

earnest olive
#

the stock power target for the 5950x is 142W

#

so if you didn't oc it will begin to throttle at 142W

#

which is less than 8W per core

#

7.625W assuming 20W SOC

tidal moth
#

It has pbo enabled

#

But what is the thing I’m thinking of mushroom

#

It’s the power steps between psu and cpu

earnest olive
#

you mean... vrms?

#

what board do you have?

#

it's not very hard to drive a 5950x on ambient cooling as far as vrms are concerned

tidal moth
#

Yes thank you lol. You know what’s funny is that wallpaper engine in the background was turboing my cpu to 4.7 idle lol. I couldn’t find the source forever. I think forks remedied my power draw issues we sat in vc for a while and he did all the stuff so I’m confident in it now. He scared me a little when he first talked to me not gonna lie haha

earnest olive
#

use a scene instead of a video

#

scenes take very little resources

#

video wallpapers will happily load up 40% of your cpu

tidal moth
#

Thank you! That makes sense I’ll try it when I get home

earnest olive
#

i have a custom made scene running on my internal monitor

#

takes almost zero resources

#

just filter workshop like this if you're not making your own

wooden quartz
fossil cedar
wooden quartz
#

@fossil cedar Cpu and gpu

fossil cedar
jagged ember
#

man I gotta learn how to make my own wallpaper engines

fossil cedar
#

@torn peak how did you get a free airflow panel?

torn peak
#

Corsair support. I asked them for one and they said yes @fossil cedar

fossil cedar
#

Oh sweet lol

fossil cedar
torn peak
#

4000D non airflow

earnest olive
#

I remember when I had a corsair carbide 275r

#

and the 275r airflow came out

#

I asked if I could buy an airflow panel and they said no

torn peak
#

Guess you weren't very lucky then

fossil cedar
#

Dam

#

It's also never in stock in the us iirc

earnest olive
#

apparently the 275R and 275R airflow have more differences than the front panel

#

so they couldn't sell me one

#

i just sold it and got an actually good case

#

oh well

fossil cedar
#

Lol

halcyon swallow
fossil cedar
#

Could be a dodgy cable or driver issue but first make sure you're not using a resolution with an i at the end instead of p - you can check in your graphics drivers

halcyon swallow
#

I’ll take a look at that

#

Huh it’s set to p, I’m going to reinstall the drivers and restart and see if that will do it

frank stirrup
halcyon swallow
#

Yeah I’m going to go buy a new one now, what is better hdmi or display?

fossil cedar
#

Depends what versions your monitor and gpu have

#

Display port is the safer bet tho

halcyon swallow
#

Oh okay ima go yoink one real quic

wooden quartz
fossil cedar
tardy knoll
wooden quartz
#

Dose anyone know if there a cable to change this to a regulate RGB conector. It eme to to my omen control board

potent portal
#

Is that... a sata data connector... on a rgb controller?

wooden quartz
#

Yes it is

wooden quartz
rose torrent
#

@earnest olive so i maximized the mounting pressure with shorter standoffs than the ones arctic gave me

#

still thermal throtlting (according to HWINFO64)

#

at this point i think we can narrow it down to a coldplate based problem

marsh sluice
vague oracle
little osprey
#

Nfl playoffs ended like a year ago

#

Ñ

#

N

mossy venture
#

So

#

My partners psu is top mounted, they don't think there's any extra cables connected to it

#

No extra cables came with the psu

#

Is it possible for the extra cables to be tucked somewhere up top?

#

Need just a single 6 pin cable

little osprey
#

Can you have them look and see

#

Or is that not possible

young fjord
#

i just finished my build and i can't get it to post. everything powers up. I've reseated the memory and went through the connections. I have noticed the usb's are not powering the keyboard or mouse. Any ideas? everything is new but the motherboard

potent portal
#

What motherboard, cpu, and memory?

#

Is there a debug LED or lights?

young fjord
#

those aren't lighting up either. Z590 plus, i511400 vengence LPX DDR4 16GB

#

at this point i'm thinking bad motherboard?

desert gulch
#

you have the 8 pin eps power plugged in?

young fjord
#

yes

potent portal
#

The asus tuf z590 plus?

#

Or the MSI?

young fjord
#

asus

potent portal
#

Ok, and you're saying the debug LEDs don't come on at all?

young fjord
#

nope. not even at power up

potent portal
#

Check the motherboard for bent pins under the CPU

young fjord
#

did that as well and dont see any bent

potent portal
#

You said the board is used right? Have you cleared the CMOS?

young fjord
#

board is used and i did clear the cmos

potent portal
#

Is that the regular 11400 or the 11400F?

young fjord
#

regular

potent portal
#

Take out the GPU and SSD and see if that changes anything

#

You can plug the monitor into the mobo

young fjord
#

samething

potent portal
#

Yeah that's probably a bad board

young fjord
#

ya i was afraid of that. Just hope it didn't mess anything else up!

narrow nova
#

hey guys i need some help, just built a new pc downloaded all the drivers but i still cannot hear anything and mic isnt wokring on discord

potent portal
#

Are you using the onboard audio for headphones and mic?

narrow nova
#

if you are referring to plugging it into the motherboard then yet

#

yes

#

not too sure if thats what you meant

potent portal
#

Yes that's onboard

#

Front or back ports?

narrow nova
#

back

potent portal
#

Are the plugs in the right spots? There's usually 6 and manufacturers don't always standardize or color code

narrow nova
#

my board only has 3 and Im still not sure if they are correctly plugged in tbh i had a video playing and just kept switching them until i heard something but I still cant hear

potent portal
#

Which motherboard? I'll check your manual

narrow nova
#

asus b550m-a wifi

#

okay so i just found out that my headset cables are labeled for mic and headset and i see that on the audio driver software it says the green is headphone in and pink is mic but somehow i manage to get sound only when the mic jack is plugged into the audio port

#

and the sound only comes from one side of my headset

#

this is so confusing i dont know why only half of my headset has audio now

#

and my mic still doesnt work

potent portal
#

The problem with onboard mic is usually you need to turn the gain up all the way

#

Which you can do in the sound control menu

subtle anchor
#

do you think it makes sense to move my OS to a bigger SSD? I have it on a 500gb ssd
but I'm contemplating on moving it to a 2TB SSD I use
if I do this, then I can keep my music plugins and other big installs on my main system drive, and use the 500GB for something else. Not sure what.

#

I have a 4TB HDD for archive, 2TB SSD, 500GB SSD, 1TB HDD for misc, and a 2TB external seagate usb HDD that's slow as hell

potent portal
#

500GB is more than enough for OS and programs

#

I have mine on a 256GB

subtle anchor
#

yeah that's smart. I feel like I'm wasting space putting it on the 500 instead of the 2tb

#

idk, maybe it's not an issue. I feel a little bit like I don't like mixing my data, and I feel the need to 'reserve a drive for x purpose' but I guess that doesn't really need to be the case

#

like, I guess there's no reason I can't mix and match stuff , like some games on C, some on another

#

idk

#

I feel sorta stuck

potent portal
#

It's only an issue if you let it be one.
It would only affect organization of files and you can make links to other drives if you need to.

subtle anchor
#

yeah true

#

The thing I'm running into is that having my plugins on my 2tb ssd, since it's not my system, some plugins like having access to writing in the registry, resulting in issues if not installed on my system drive (500gb ssd)

#

so maybe I'll save the 2tb ssd for my big big big big plugins, and just keep the lighter/smaller ones on the 500gb

potent portal
#

How big are these plugins?

subtle anchor
#

keyscape, omnipshere, native instruments, all add up to 400gb or more probably

potent portal
#

Sheesh

subtle anchor
#

yeahh

#

keyscape and omnisphere is 77 + 60

#

and I think 300 from native instruments

#

that's the biggest of them

#

16gb for my orchestral library

potent portal
#

I've never had an issue with registry specifically like that but in your case maybe it would work better on a bigger drive if that's the problem

subtle anchor
#

and then, for my music projects, including project files, mp3s, stems, etc.,, adds up to probably 200gb

#

I mean, been a while since I checked but you get the idea

#

yeah, it just becomes a hassle because some DAWs like fl studio allow you to have multiple paths

#

but ableton only allows one plugin folder

#

that's the issue

#

there's a tool out there to create symbolic links so I might try that

#

so I can have some on both drives

#

the other idea I had is just uninstalling all my plugins and starting from scratch

#

the drawback is that it'd be annoying to reinstall them if I have a project I want to go back to

#

but honestly, is what it is

#

I been hurting for a "factory reset" sort of thing, because it's become such a mess in my mind

#

and well, could be all in my mind truthfully

#

music plugins just install themselves all in weird places. There's no standard.

#

I heard a story where one was installed in a folder "stienberg" instead of "steinberg" so the user had 2 different folders

junior crescent
fossil cedar
junior crescent
fossil cedar
#

Cool 1 sec

fossil cedar
brittle copper
#

@potent portal if I verified that the problem isn’t the mounting pressure

#

And that’s it’s not the radiator cooling

#

Does that mean the problem is the copper coldplate itself?

lament fulcrum
#

@orchid ruin almost thought that was a p400a lol nice looking build

#

Anyone know much a pc cleaning may roughly cost? Im trying to get a mint clean bc im not meticulous enough to do it myself

#

A good spray out is usually good enough right?

desert gulch
#

PC cleaning is basically free

lament fulcrum
#

Im lazy lol

little osprey
#

Nice my PC won't post

#

Whyd I have to combine the two most garbage ram kits in my daily system bruh weggCringe

desert gulch
little osprey
#

cries

strong raft
#

Speaking of, the 32GB 3200c16 (ballistix) recently went from $113 to $130. peepoSadSip

little osprey
#

it only gets worse from here

#

unless random warehouses find misplaced stashes of ballistix

strong raft
#

I'm checking Ebay as well. I found a listing w/ a typo so I might get a 16GB kit of it for $50even+tax. There's also various 32GB kits for $110ish still, I just like the 5% back from amazon at least. Also, I finally bought a cpu for the 500 series mobo I've had: 11700F 2356_Ricardo_flick - I'm literally doubling cpu cores/thread again. E8400 to 3550/"3770" to 11gen, lol. Not really any bigger upgrade unless people went 2/3gen to 12gen.

earnest olive
#

rip ballistix

#

you will be missed

fossil cedar
fossil cedar
#

ram prices have gine up a bit

#

and ballistix are dicontinuod :(

#

definetyl spelt that wrong

stoic island
#

Is ok

fossil cedar
#

Thanks lol auto correct was not working on ipad for some reason

#

How much do you reckon my b450 ds3h would MELT with a 5700x

#

Box has a really good deal on their ebay... Would probs work to about 250€ for me after import tax

fossil cedar
# mossy venture About 3

Hmmmm I'm actually trying to see tho like might be worth it then snag a decent b550/x570 used/cheapish one new

#

Also are there any 5700x reviews yet?

fossil cedar
frank stirrup
#

It SHOULD be fine

fossil cedar
#

Good enough xD

#

I'm so tempted

#

I haven't seen any 5700x reviews tho

frank stirrup
#

if u keep pbo off

fossil cedar
#

I could turn pbo on after diff board

#

So tempting hmm

frank stirrup
#

dew it

#

u finally wont be imc limited either

fossil cedar
#

Owo true

#

My board prolly a limit a bit too

fossil cedar
mossy venture
#

Since don't you have the 224xt atm?

fossil cedar
# mossy venture Won't you need a new cooler?

nope i ordered a d15s from ebay a couple weeks ago - it arrived bent and i got a refund for it but was able to bend it back... i would just need to buy an am4 mounting kit for it

mossy venture
#

Nice

frank stirrup
fossil cedar
# frank stirrup oh noot

It was 1000% a pricing error they have 5600 non x up for the same price now dammit I didn't get cuz I didn't know how much the diff between 5700x and 5800x was :(

frank stirrup
#

das no good

#

btw @fossil cedar go do wordle

fossil cedar
#

Oh I do

fossil cedar
tardy knoll
#

Seems ABS support is now refusing to return my calls now that I've said the PC is fixed and I just want a refund for the bad PSU like I was originally offered instead of a replacement because I wanted to upgrade....

#

So what happens if I have another issue with the PC they just won't return my calls?

fossil cedar
tardy knoll
#

I will try that if I don't get a call back soon. Originally they were returning my calls within the next day at the latest

#

Gonna stink if I can't get that refund seeing as how I went out and bought a way nicer PSU already... Only after confirming that was an option with them. As originally I asked if they could send me a nicer replacement and I'd pay the price difference. They said no but could do a refund

#

Also kinda curious why my LEDs came wired in a way to where the front 3 case fans were controlled by a button on the case. Then the CPU RGB was plugged into Mobo and totally separate. Couldn't sync them... Moved cpu RGB to the RGB controller where case fans were, then figured out how to turn the button off and allow me to control it all thru Asus Aura sync software.

#

My build looks sooooo much nicer now. The original PSU had red and yellow wires etc. The 24 pin was all sorts of diff colors. New PSU is all black and then with LeDs synced up it looks like a new build almost lol

tardy knoll
#

Not impressive to you experienced builders, but putting a new PSU in, and then fixing the RGB was quite the feat for me as a beginner. I'm so stoked with how it looks now

#

Curious, I want to get some RGB to do backlit monitors or whatever you'd call it. Do you just wire them to the RGB controller or how does that stuff work.
Id also like to get the keyboard and mouse RGB synced with PC

steel fox
#

Hey I want to put a 1050ti in my optiplex 790 but would I need to invest into a new PSU as well?

desert gulch
#

Possibly

earnest olive
#

oh god dell website is defaulting to italian bc i'm on vacation

#

it has a 240w psu

#

you'll be fine

#

no need to get a new one

#

@steel fox

steel fox
#

Thank you friend

potent portal
#

You can often use openrgb or signalrgb to get stuff from different brands to sync

fleet heron
#

Honestly RGB Is just overrated and overpriced

desert gulch
#

But it does add like 10% perf

potent portal
#

Only if you set it to red, everyone knows that's the fastest color

desert gulch
#

but that takes the most power

potent portal
#

No white is for stability. It'll never crash if it's set to white.

desert gulch
#

red is the best

potent portal
#

Blue is for the cool kids
And old men that want to feel young

little osprey
#

set it to black

tardy knoll
#

So I can just attach it to controller on PC perfect.

#

What should I use to monitor performance of my PC? Want to make sure stuffs working right. Curious at what point my GPU fans come on lol

desert gulch
#

For super simple, afterburner with rivatuner is nice

#

It has an overlay that's fairly easy to set up

#

If you want a bit more in depth, hwinfo64 is great

tardy knoll
#

Not familiar with simple or indepth lol

#

Probably first need to learn how to monitor performance

#

Do GPU fans not come on often unless you're actually gaming or?

desert gulch
#

Depends on gpu

#

Modern ones will usually only come on during high usage like games and stuff

tardy knoll
#

Gotcha.

#

What percentage usage would you say they'd come on

desert gulch
#

Idk tbh

#

Iirc it's on temps

tardy knoll
#

Gotcha.

tardy knoll
little osprey
#

No

#

I don’t think open rgb or signal rgb support gamdias yet

#

gamdias isn’t that large scale

#

sadly

desert void
#

can someone rate this rq

mossy venture
#

Ima be painfully blunt

#

Pretty terrible

#

What's the budget for the build?

#

@desert void

desert void
#

1800cad

#

fits right under at 1790

mossy venture
#

Ohh that's all in cad

desert void
#

ye lol

#

mb

mossy venture
#

Not as bad but can do better

#

Do you plan to oc the 12600k?

desert void
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tips for improvement?

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nah

mossy venture
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Kk

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I'll make a list one sec

desert void
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i was thinking maybe gg 5600x or 11400f

mossy venture
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Are you gaming?

desert void
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yep

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but nothing crazy

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valorant, genshin, sea of thieves and thats abt it

mossy venture
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Kk

desert void
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and budget could be less

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rly gg minimun right here

mossy venture
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Could prolly save a bit with a cheaper case

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Bit 4000d airflow got good airflow

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Could also get that p360a from newegg

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Also a good case

desert void
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legend fr

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does the 12400f run well?

mossy venture
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Very

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It's enough for a 3090 ti at 1440p kekw

desert void
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jesos

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okok tysm

mossy venture
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Np

desert void
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i think this is actually what im gonna go for

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was rly tryna push the 1600 mark

strong raft
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11400 < 5600x < 12400 FedoraTip

desert void
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lol

mossy venture
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Oh damn, gpu went oos

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One sec

earnest olive
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idk about sea of thieves but valorant and genshin run great on integrated graphics

desert gulch
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Sea of theives would want a dgpu

fossil cedar
frank stirrup
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nerd

fossil cedar
frank stirrup
fossil cedar
frank stirrup
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nice

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Im reinstalling pixel experience

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and older version

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because a tweak i really wanna use isnt compatible with latest update

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since api changes

fossil cedar
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smh

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git gud

frank stirrup
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:(

fossil cedar
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what tweak

frank stirrup
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Bro its a 300mb magisk module

frank stirrup
fossil cedar
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Is wat

frank stirrup
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wat u ask about

fossil cedar
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nvm i was asking what midule thingn before link

frank stirrup
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ahh

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but yeah

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300mb magisk module

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is whack

fossil cedar
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this ipads auto correct no work ?

frank stirrup
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Might have to enable

fossil cedar
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i checked

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apparantly it is

frank stirrup
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skill issue then

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lololol

fossil cedar
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must be

earnest olive
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@fossil cedar can you make me list plz

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I need to run fortnite rtx 8k 360 fps ok?

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my budget is 0.26 azerbaijani manat

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plz include enough rgb to light my village at night, ty

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the goats get frightened in the dark

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plz think of the goats

frank stirrup
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what u wanna do is sell ur kidney

earnest olive
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sry, I already sell both kidneys

frank stirrup
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Oh sell a kidney from one of ur goats

earnest olive
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I cannot, goat is precious

frank stirrup
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how much do u like ur parents

earnest olive
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do not have parents. raised by goat

frank stirrup
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oh

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well

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sell a part of ur liver then

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or a lung

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or an eye

earnest olive
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trade liver for corsair rams already

frank stirrup
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good trade

earnest olive
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I got a 128gb 2666mhz RGB it is good for fortnite?

frank stirrup
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yes

earnest olive
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ok, ty

frank stirrup
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u can store so many materials in that much ram

earnest olive
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I trade lung for nzxt h510, ask goat to chew airflow holes into front

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is good case?

frank stirrup
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u can build the entire of ur country with 128gb ram

frank stirrup