building-and-recc-chat

[south cliff]

i would have got a 3060ti but you cant find one

[subtle anchor]

yeah so true

[south cliff]

its alot better for ray tracing

ro

to

[subtle anchor]

i cant wait

also, already loving this speed on the 12th gen i5

[south cliff]

i have had my rx 570 for like 2.5 years

[subtle anchor]

i feel the difference from my i5 6400

[south cliff]

and i got it used

[subtle anchor]

yea lmao

[south cliff]

i had a dell optiplex

and slapped my rx inn it

rx 570

[subtle anchor]

dang

[south cliff]

worked better than you would think

[subtle anchor]

yeah that sounds crazy

rx 570 looks decent

[south cliff]

i remeber when i only had 4gb of ram

[subtle anchor]

lool

[south cliff]

becasue i bought a laptop ram instead of regular pc ram

[subtle anchor]

l0l

[south cliff]

it was bad

i couldnt land in fortnite

[subtle anchor]

yeah I'm rocking 16gb of ram, but I'm tempted to snag some more for $50 or so

same model and everything

so I could use 32gb on one machine

[south cliff]

yeah i was thinking that to

[subtle anchor]

or split it and 16gb on each

cuz my old pc just needs ram

I have my 1050 I can use for it

for the gfx

the new 3060 in my new system

and boom

[south cliff]

1050 ti is about rx 570 performance

[subtle anchor]

oh wow

yeah mine isnt even overclocked

and only 2gb of vram

sorta meh

[south cliff]

i got 4gb vram

[subtle anchor]

wowie

[south cliff]

but you will get 12gb

[subtle anchor]

i want to test the limits of this new build

[south cliff]

[subtle anchor]

what better game than minecraft

[south cliff]

that game is very demanding

if play on crazy shaders

[subtle anchor]

yeah

i'm gonna test minecraft to see the cpu upgrade

same gfx card

[south cliff]

just go to cinebench

[subtle anchor]

and then I'll try again with my rtx 3060

[south cliff]

and see the single core performance

[subtle anchor]

o dang

yea I'll try that

[south cliff]

and look at your old pc performance

on like a vid

[subtle anchor]

it's definitely faster than my old pc

[south cliff]

or smt

[subtle anchor]

like, I already feel it

[south cliff]

lol

[subtle anchor]

there's a big difference in just usage

[south cliff]

i had a i5 2400

one time

[subtle anchor]

and it's so refreshing not to see my cpu at 100%

all the time

[south cliff]

yeah i wish i could have that to

[subtle anchor]

and my xmp profile is nice and sexy

[south cliff]

i got 2666

[subtle anchor]

my old build's mobo couldn't do this

[south cliff]

speed

[subtle anchor]

yeah

my old mobo was just 2133

even though I had better ram

[south cliff]

but im about to get a kraken x73

and a nex case

[subtle anchor]

o wow

That's an AIO?

[south cliff]

yes

it got nice screen

[subtle anchor]

im not gonna lie

[south cliff]

i was going to get the

that

[subtle anchor]

i messed with my cooler for like an hour

got frustrated with the scythe fuma 2

and went with stock

[south cliff]

arctic freezer 2 but i want that nicew screen

[subtle anchor]

I'll swap it out later when I'm not frustrated though

yea it has a nice little screen u not wrong

[south cliff]

how much performance

im going to be putting a 12600k

with it

[subtle anchor]

also, this was my first legit build

[south cliff]

lol

[subtle anchor]

and it was pretty fun lmao

[south cliff]

it is fun until it doesent turn on

[subtle anchor]

I think I'm addicted now

[south cliff]

im not buying new

likie used referbished

its 89 for used x73

oc to 5ghz?

[desert gulch]

You're right, you need a 420mm rad for a 12600k

[mossy venture]

480*

[south cliff]

12600k give off alot of heat

[desert gulch]

Why me?

Racially motivated?

Ok

[mossy venture]

wait

my current system is 3600 and 3060 ti, which is funni meme because 3s and 6s

[desert gulch]

You're literally breaking rule 1 rommy

1. Be respectful. Don’t be toxic. Personal attacks, harassment, trolling, derogatory language towards anyone because of their race, gender, preference, etc., will not be tolerated. Please avoid discussing controversial or sensitive topics that might cause controversy.
   .

[mossy venture]

idek what rule 1 is lmao

ive never read them ima be honest

[south cliff]

cmon now cant we jus tbe friends

?

[desert gulch]

Illegal

We must be enemies

[south cliff]

well you just broke rule 1

[desert gulch]

Bro give me see credit smh

[south cliff]

i love this emot

[desert gulch]

I just copied that on mobile

[south cliff]

emote

[desert gulch]

That took so much time

[south cliff]

i do to

what wrong with tha

amd cards

besided

drivers

there pretty good for cost to performance

i got my rx570 for 80 dollars

and its lasted me 2.5 years

[desert gulch]

Proof?

Guilty until proven innocent

When I'm mod and you're still mod assist, you'll learn

Smh

[south cliff]

is being mod fun or smt?

[desert gulch]

Yeah you're probably the reason for that

XD

Slander in the VC about me, I knew it

[south cliff]

work fine?

oc?

so stock?

[desert gulch]

Pro A 690?

[south cliff]

i got a 650 watt psu

[desert gulch]

Rommy when's the 12900ks arriving to you?

You're gonna let forks take the win?

Did they?

Didn't hear of that yet

I just saw the link forks posted

Weird

[little osprey]

yea i think that was seby or something

maybe that was another cpu

it was a while ago

[desert gulch]

Did he buy one or no?

[celest horizon]

seby has one, I don't intend to

[desert gulch]

Ah ok

You gonna go am5 when it comes out?

[south cliff]

when is am5 coming out?

[desert gulch]

Soonish

Prolly Q3-Q4 of this year

[little osprey]

not long before christmas probably

[earnest olive]

it's painful to oc high end intel cpus now

[little osprey]

you sure that wasnt always the case

[earnest olive]

how do you stability test it properly when 420mm push pull LF2 can't hold it down thermally

[earnest olive]

idk, i don't think the extreme cooling problems really began until 9900K

[little osprey]

x99 👀

[earnest olive]

hmm were there cooling problems that bad on X99?

[desert gulch]

Btw I don't reccomend pa120 SE for ADL, don't ask how I know

[earnest olive]

you reminded me of them on X299

[desert gulch]

Just a tip

[earnest olive]

but i don't know anything about X99

[earnest olive]

why tho

[little osprey]

it wasnt horrible but i think most chips cb'ed around -120

[desert gulch]

The lga 1700 bracket is beyond horrible and the coldplate isn't really good for 12th gen

[earnest olive]

i see, noted

[earnest olive]

what does this mean?

cinebenched around 120 what?

[desert gulch]

They may as well just not include a 1700 bracket

[little osprey]

cold bug

[desert gulch]

I could 3d print a better one

[little osprey]

or maybe it was cold boot bug... bruh my memory sucks, you should probably just search it up because i think im wrong lol

[earnest olive]

i am talking about the opposite direction lol

hitting 100C all core with 420mm aios at like 1.3V

[little osprey]

oh lmao

i read "extreme cooling" and thought of ln2 or dice

[earnest olive]

yeah, that's my bad

vague language

[desert gulch]

The pa120 NON SE is still good tho in terms of coldplate, since it's a convex plate

[little osprey]

nah i've just been thinking of overclocking for the past month straight every day

2 months 💀

[desert gulch]

It's just the SE that sucks for it

[earnest olive]

but ever since the 9900K it's been getting really difficult for pedestrian cooling solutions to run prime95 and then there's the question of "what's good enough"

[desert gulch]

Easy question

Answer: Hyper 212

[earnest olive]

i meant what's good enough as a stability test

[desert gulch]

Alternate answer: NZXT Kracken

[earnest olive]

seriously though

no other stability test i've tried was really 100%

[desert gulch]

Maybe you need to make one

That combines all the tests together basically

[earnest olive]

like maybe you could compromise by running something like OCCT and then slightly bumping down clock speed from whatever passes OCCT

but it sucks not being able to realistically run prime95 anymore lol

[desert gulch]

Lol

[earnest olive]

overnight prime95 was so nice and easy

and prime95 has never failed me

if it's prime stable it's stable

OCCT has failed me

realbench has failed me

linpack hasn't but linpack is also just as heavy so it's not really a solution to the problem of how on earth do i cool a real stability test

[vague oracle]

I just realized how overkill a PA120 is on a 11400F lmao

[earnest olive]

could be worth from a noise perspective

[vague oracle]

I accidentally did that on my friends build

Meant to put a SE-224xt into the part picker list but put the PA120 instead

[earnest olive]

well, it's like 10 bucks more

not too bad

at least there is some kind of benefit out of that 10 bucks

[vague oracle]

True true

I really want to see the temps he is getting

Oh he DMed me today asking why he is lagging in games with a 3070ti

he never installed drivers

[earnest olive]

what? how did windows even allow that

did he never connect it to the internet?

[vague oracle]

I have no clue

[little osprey]

Bro

First the gpu slot thing

[vague oracle]

I’m convinced he watched the verge’s how to build a pc

[onyx whale]

Does anybody here use a 27" acer predator IPS?

[frank stirrup]

just ask ur question

[onyx whale]

That's my question. I'm trying to figure out if it's a decent enough monitor. There seem to be 3 different xb1 models. It's a bit confusing. I just want to know if you're happy with your purchase.

It's either that or a PG279QM ASUS as long as it supports gsync at 144 hz 1440p or 4K.

[fossil cedar]

Just go for m27q

[obsidian wigeon]

^

[fossil cedar]

4k isn't worth it yet

[obsidian wigeon]

m27q is gigabyte

[fossil cedar]

[onyx whale]

I probably shouldn't go 4K until I have a better gpu anyway.

And some of the newer IPS models I've seen there's an external power brick which seems like it could get in the way.

[mossy venture]

What gpu?

[onyx whale]

I've got a 2060 duo right now. I'm looking into a 3070ti in the future

[mossy venture]

Even 3090 4k gaming is lowkey a meme

[onyx whale]

And I'll be getting it after the 40 series hits the market. So prices go down.

[frank stirrup]

dont almost all monitors have a power brick?

[mossy venture]

I wouldnt even run 1440p on a 2060... if you've got a monitor I'd wait till you upgrade to get a new monitor

[fossil cedar]

Nope some just use a normal kettle lead with internal power supply

[frank stirrup]

some yeah

most have power brick

[mossy venture]

Monitor that runs on double a batteries when

[fringe iris]

I want to put leds in my pc case can i have some ideas of which ones I should do?

[onyx whale]

I'm probably better off going to a store and checking them out myself as opposed to video reviews, too. Can't really make my mind up until I see it in person. I don't like Walmart at all but they have a predator going for 329 from 369. Which I thought was a damn good price

Oh it's 1080 thqts why

[mossy venture]

M27q is $300, and it's arguably the best 1440p high refresh rate monitor short of 240hz

[onyx whale]

I'm stuck between an ASUS, the predator, and the m27q. I might even wait until new monitors are out so prices drop even more.

ASUS ROG Swift PG279QM vs the Predator XB273K vs the Gigabyte M27Q. Decisions decisions. Thanks for your input, everyone.

I hope you all have a nice day.

[fossil cedar]

If you already have a 1080p 144hz monitor honestly just wait til you get a better gpu before upping res

[onyx whale]

I'm on a 24" 1440p 75hz scepter. They use Samsung parts pretty much. Up from a 22" 60 TN AOC. But looking at the 2 on RTings it looks like even though the Predator has better ergonomics the Gigabyte has better features.

https://www.rtings.com/monitor/tools/compare/acer-predator-xb273k-pbmiphzx-vs-gigabyte-m27q/898/19668

[crimson scaffold]

@oblique grove

[analog hearth]

what

[formal girder]

There is a 32" LG ultragear 32gn600-b which I got for under $250 and it's 1440p 165hz but I oc my monitor 175hz

[crimson scaffold]

Basically they bought a 2080 and they have an i3 cpu and It has 2gb if that helps, and it doesn’t work. My reasoning would be the cpu is too old, any suggestions?

[analog hearth]

ok

lol

[obsidian wigeon]

It would work but

The psu won't be enough lol

It's an i3 rig so I don't expect much at all out of the psu

[crimson scaffold]

Alright thanks

[fringe iris]

Please tell me how you OC your monitor

[obsidian wigeon]

well

it's as easy as using cru to add custom res

[frank stirrup]

2 gb ram and a 2080

[fringe iris]

Is that an application i can download?

[obsidian wigeon]

but your mileage may vary cause sometimes you can't even go 1hz over factory refresh

[frank stirrup]

that is NOT a fun time

[obsidian wigeon]

yeah

i managed to get to 80 from 60hz on my laptop

[frank stirrup]

amd and nvidia have monitor oc tools built in to the driver software

just use those tbh

[fringe iris]

What limits the hz to factory? Your gpu? Also what will happen if it doesnt go over will it just shut off the monitor?

[obsidian wigeon]

Not gpu

[frank stirrup]

nope the panel itself

[obsidian wigeon]

The limit is the panel

[fringe iris]

Ahh alright

[obsidian wigeon]

ya

[frank stirrup]

it has its limit

also some are locked

[obsidian wigeon]

It either frame skips or blacks out

[fringe iris]

Whats the amd oc tool? I have adrenaline

[obsidian wigeon]

Or just says "out of range"

[frank stirrup]

yeah dis will pop up for a few seconds if monitor is locked

[formal girder]

Doesn't it wear down the life of the panel tho?

[obsidian wigeon]

Nope

Not at all

[formal girder]

Oh then I'ma daily 1440p 175hz then

[obsidian wigeon]

I have been using 80hz on my laptop's panel since a year or two by now

[fringe iris]

Whats the AMD app that OC the monitor?

[obsidian wigeon]

you just add custom res

in driver control panel

[fringe iris]

Ohh alright

Thanks

Also i need some leds for my pc case.. any recommendations? Magnetic ones?

[frank stirrup]

on amd

[fringe iris]

Oh shoot alright Thank you i didnt know what that was

[obsidian wigeon]

I just had to use cru cause I'm on a laptop

[formal girder]

Panel lottery

[obsidian wigeon]

Intel just doesn't let me add custom res at all

[frank stirrup]

fair

foxy new pc when

[obsidian wigeon]

probably next year i don't even know kek

[frank stirrup]

nice

im getting a 3060ti this summer

am hype

founders ed

[onyx whale]

Nice. I'm waiting till the 40 series are released to see if prices drop

And I'm going either 3060ti or 3070ti. 850w psu.

[frank stirrup]

3070ti is a waste of money tbh

get a 3070 instead

3070ti not worth it

[fossil cedar]

Unless same price or cheaper

[vague oracle]

What’s the difference between the XC3 and FTW3

Is it just cooling

[mossy venture]

if my partner has their monitor plugged directly into the gpu it will automatically use that as the render for games even tho they have an igpu right?

[fossil cedar]

whatever port the monitor is plugged into it will use

[mossy venture]

thought so thanks

[earnest olive]

if they do have any issues with that, go to windows graphics settings and you can force an app to use a specific GPU

i don't have an igpu but for a system with an igpu it will be listed as the power saving option

[mossy venture]

kk thanks

[earnest olive]

i do that on my laptop to make league run on the igpu

i do want to note that, at least for me, this does not work on valorant

i tried to run valorant on igpu, it started using dgpu anyways but failed to load

and just sat at a black screen with 0 fps reported by RTSS until i closed it

[mossy venture]

ah

sounds fun

[earnest olive]

had to set it to dgpu for the game to load

[mossy venture]

valorant runs terrible on my laptop

even plugged in

i get fine fps, but in reality its super choppy

[earnest olive]

kind of annoying because i think my igpu should be able to handle the game

[earnest olive]

lol i recently learned my friend has been playing at 30hz the whole time

she had her 4K monitor plugged into her igpu so it couldn't do more than 30hz

it was using her dgpu to render the game but the monitor was limited

[potent portal]

Using external display or internal? Do you have a mux?

[mossy venture]

internal

whats a mux?

monitors at 120hz

[potent portal]

A mux switch is what would switch the internal display between dGPU and iGPU, without it even if things are rendered on the dGPU it passes through the iGPU

[mossy venture]

i dont think i do

[potent portal]

A "fix" for this is to connect an external display, which goes straight to the dGPU

[mossy venture]

i did force it to use dgpu in windows

oh i get it

[fossil cedar]

You should go with the 3090

[earnest olive]

true, excellent power savings

[fossil cedar]

Yes

[earnest olive]

MSI claims that they managed to get the benefit of a MUX switch without having one

by wiring two sets of traces to the display, one from each GPU

[fossil cedar]

Hmm

[earnest olive]

and you can choose in BIOS to disable the igpu and it'll use the dgpu to internal display route

I'm not sure if their claims are true, but I do notice a significant gain in time spy from disabling the igpu, so I'm sure it's doing something

[fossil cedar]

Hmm

[earnest olive]

about a 10% gain from disabling the igpu

[mossy venture]

im probably going to be trading my laptop for a more work oriented laptop soon anyways

ive gamed on it maybe 4 times since i got it

and the battery life is a bit short for school

i shouldve held off for rdna2 laptops instead of buying when the sale happened, but oh well

[formal girder]

I might try this to get one more heavy oc out of my pc

[earnest olive]

this only matters when the display is connected to the igpu

like the internal display of a laptop

you will not gain anything if your monitor is connected to your 3090

the only reason why igpu causes a performance loss in this situation is because frame data needs to be fed back from the dgpu to the igpu before going to the display

this is also why using an external display on the laptop solves the performance loss

[drifting chasm]

can anyone answer a coule of q about the coolermaster 120 argb 3in1 wiring?

[earnest olive]

how about you just ask the questions instead of waiting for someone to ask you to ask your questions?

[little osprey]

Sir what is your question

Yes we can answer it if you actually ask

[vague oracle]

!ask

[still roost]

https://dontasktoask.com/

[little osprey]

Hey, he’s back with a question

[drifting chasm]

ha ha, thanks, distracted. there are two harnesses. are they both used?

[earnest olive]

harnesses?

try pictures

[drifting chasm]

okay, one minute

[earnest olive]

not sure what you're talking about

[drifting chasm]

I wired it using the Step 2 picture on the left

[little osprey]

what harness?

[earnest olive]

can you circle the part you're confused about

[drifting chasm]

I'd have to learn how to do that... one minute...

[earnest olive]

the first picture is describing how to hook up the fans to the included controller

the second picture is describing how to hook up the fans to motherboard control

you only need to do one of them

[drifting chasm]

I thought so. Would the controller need to be outside the case to click the button. I wasn't sure how to get it on the outside

later

[earnest olive]

included controller is typically there when your motherboard does not support lighting control

[little osprey]

You can just open up the case and click the button

[earnest olive]

coolermaster controllers typically allow you to hook up the case reset button to it to control it from the outside

[little osprey]

but if your mobo supports the lighting and fan control (most should) then just skip the fan controller

[earnest olive]

however not every case has a reset button

[little osprey]

Mines only has a power button 😂

[earnest olive]

my o11 doesn't have a reset button

[drifting chasm]

this case has a reset button and I would connect the two-wire pin to the controller and be able to control it from the case button, I think that settles it then, thanks

[earnest olive]

sounds good

[vague oracle]

O11 doesn’t have a reset button?

That’s kinda sad

[earnest olive]

nope just power

[little osprey]

L case

[humble basin]

Would this build be compatible with the upcoming RTX 4000 series?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Nx6f9r

[little osprey]

Yes

[spring hedge]

should i get this pc https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cfsL2m or should i wait for the new graphics card to come out and i play fornite, cod warzone, and red dead redemption 2

[little osprey]

You've already asked multiple times and the answer is still going to be the same

buy whatever is available when you are going to buy it

dont ask like 4 months in advance

parts go in and out of stock and new products come out. products will also stop being sold so theres that as well

[frigid night]

While I know some people will disagree as well as agree with me, I'd suggest a 1000w psu if you are going for a 6900xt/12700k combo.

[drifting chasm]

okay, I'm clearly only here when I need something... I've got to just drop in and chat... Okay, build done and Intel boots to BIOS but my only storage is M.2 SSD and during Windows Install that drive is not recognized... any thoughts/ideas?

[earnest olive]

do you have a 10th gen cpu and a 500 series mobo

[strong raft]

To add onto orange mushroom statement: if so, top m.2 slot is disabled.

[drifting chasm]

12th gen cpu and ASUS B660-Plus D4 MB

I put it in the top M.2 slot. It was the slot that had the Heat Sink on it. The volume shows up in BIOS. I can try putting it in one of the other slots

well, I put it in a lower slot and Windows still didn't recognize it

I emailed TeamGroup for support

thanks a ton folks

[strong raft]

If it shows in bios it should appear in the window for OS install. I don't get what's up w/ it. Might be a faulty drive, idk

[drifting chasm]

might be, bummer, the day was glorious up to then. my first PC gaming build

good night Good People!!!

[forest lava]

I am stuck on my PC build entirely

From the looks of it, every cable is plugged in correctly, I've already reinstalled my RAM, and my GPU and CPU are properly installed as well

And yet

I keep missing something

[frank stirrup]

@bitter mason can prolly help

[bitter mason]

which CPU/motherboard?

[forest lava]

ASRock B450m Pro4

I realized I installed the case power/reset incorrectly so I fixed that and still no luck

[bitter mason]

does it show BIOS or anything or doesn't turn on?

[forest lava]

Doesn't turn on whatsoever

No fans or anything

PSU is switched on too

[hushed sable]

hey guys would guys now what I pc I could build with a intel i9 for around 3000 dollars

[analog pulsar]

do you have another cable you can try to plug into power supply

Try different outlet

another thing you could try is triple checking the wires and maybe try shorting the power pins with a screw driver to turn on pc bc maybe front panel connect dont work but idk

[bitter mason]

your 24-pin motherboard connection & 4+4 CPU connections are in tight? Can you send a picture of everything hooked up? btw my bad I'm jumping around. Plz ping me

[forest lava]

All good

Should I unplug said 4+4/20+4 connectors and replug them?

[hallow escarp]

Try taking everything out of the case. place the mobo on something nonconductive like wood or cardboard plug only what's necessary in and try again oh also take the small coin battery out for a minute as well

[forest lava]

Agh that's gonna be annoying but I'll try that

[hallow escarp]

yeah I know my mobo for my first build was defective I literally replaced the cpu and the psu before I found out

[bitter mason]

also you can try only running one stick of RAM. Are you sure they're in the correct slots btw

[forest lava]

I'm currently removing the mobo now that I have time to do so

The 20+4 cable won't detach with regular force

I'm so scared of breaking anything

nvm got it

[fossil cedar]

Yeah they are practically super glued into the board

[forest lava]

@bitter mason Surprise problem: Almost done removing the mobo, and found something... Unsavory

There's a pin missing from the 20 side of the 20+4 connector

I'll send an image

[fossil cedar]

That's normal

[forest lava]

Really?

[fossil cedar]

Yup

https://images.app.goo.gl/zCPn1eM7iPHkfGNB6

There's a pic of one if you're curious

[forest lava]

Ah

[bitter mason]

wait why are you removing the whole motherboard?

[forest lava]

So I can place somewhere more comfortable to work on and redo each step one by one

I'll do a test run I think before putting it in the case

[bitter mason]

oh alright

also, short the CMOS pins while you're at it. Make sure you're not connected to power when you do

[forest lava]

You lose me at CMOS

How does one do that?

[bitter mason]

let me find your motherboard's manual hold on

you see where I highlighted?

that's your clear CMOS jumper

[forest lava]

I see

[bitter mason]

it resets the motherboard if you're ever in a position where you can't even get BIOS to show, typically cuz you changed memory or other settings

it's not very likely to work here since the motherboard should have shipped at factory defaults

but if for whatever reason it's not, this restores them

[forest lava]

I swear this build is one problem after another

I did that, now I'm realizing that my wraith cooler screws aren't going down

I might have a manual for that somewhere

See none of this stuff I've learned on YouTube or from this channel was on Intel's PC build guide

[bitter mason]

don't worry

trial & error is part of the process

my first motherboard, I destroyed the CPU pins & totaled the LGA1200 socket

it was completely unusable

[forest lava]

Ouch

That sounds like it was painful

[bitter mason]

ya it was pretty not cool lol

but stuff like that happens, especially when you're new so don't even worry about it

are you using cable extensions btw?

[forest lava]

I... Don't think so. Just using the normal PSU cables, and they all reach well through the cable slots on my case

[bitter mason]

okay that's good, one less variable

oh damn you still have a white name so you can't send pictures

[forest lava]

Aye

[bitter mason]

if you talk more it'll turn you green

[forest lava]

That I'll try to do, I like this server

Okay this cooler's screws are refusing to cooperate

I kinda want to remove the springs but I think they're there for a reason

[bitter mason]

I'd leave the springs but check the back of the motherboard & you should see some sort of nut or something that's holding the cooler in that's likely spinning

[forest lava]

🤦‍♂️ that's what that mysterious falling noise was

Note to self: Clear clutter so you don't miss things

[bitter mason]

lol don't beat yourself up we've all been there in some way

btw do you have a GPU connected also or are you using integrated?

[forest lava]

RTX gpu

Eyyy green

[frank stirrup]

Very nice troubleshooting ggood

[bitter mason]

noice

I'm trying. My bad I got into a long back & forth with Seby in OC

[forest lava]

Yeah I truly appreciate it

[bitter mason]

np but don't thank me until we make some progress lol

which CPU?

[forest lava]

I'm gonna remove a stick of RAM. They both have the same exact numbers on the side (I don't know exactly what RAM it is other than that it's 8gb ddr4 because a friend gave it to me), but just to be safe

Ryzen 5 5600x

ASRock says it's fully compatible

[bitter mason]

okay make sure it's in slot A2

I mean the one you end up using

[forest lava]

Neither of them were lol

[bitter mason]

Also, is your GPU connected at the top PCIe slot?

oh really?

did you have them both in B? i.e., B1 B2?

[forest lava]

Yeah

[bitter mason]

oh damn

that might be your issue

[forest lava]

I removed my GPU but I had it installed and will install it in the top slot

[bitter mason]

try one in A2 & one in B2

or just one in A2

either way this maaaay have been the issue

[forest lava]

RAM in A2 and CPU/cooler installed

How does one test run from here

[bitter mason]

well you'd have to hook up your GPU to see if you get BIOS to come up

[rotund zealot]

Yall got rtx gpus I have a gtx gpu get good

[forest lava]

I have a GTX gpu too :p

[bitter mason]

I have two GTX GPUs

[rotund zealot]

I also have 2 gtx gpus

[bitter mason]

GTX970M & GTX1660ti max-q

[rotund zealot]

And like 4 gt gpus lol

[bitter mason]

but I also have 3 RTX GPUs lol

3060/70/80ti

[rotund zealot]

Breh

I have a gtx 980ti lol

[frank stirrup]

Btw make sure monitor cable is plugged into gpu and not back of motherboard

[bitter mason]

btw once we get this working, we can see how thermals look & enable PBO to get some free performance if you'd like

[forest lava]

ight

[rotund zealot]

Yall got good cpus aswell cant relate

[forest lava]

So currently, mobo is out of the case, and ram, cpu, and gpu is installed

[bitter mason]

I have a Ryzen 5xxx too. Great CPU. It's my favorite of the ones I have for sure

[rotund zealot]

I have a 3600 :/

[forest lava]

I was gonna go for a better cpu (like 5700 or 5800) but then I'd have to settle with my 1050 Ti

[rotund zealot]

And lots of rgb so its basically as fast as a 5950x and a 3090 pc

[bitter mason]

lol rgb = fps

[rotund zealot]

Yes

[bitter mason]

it can run like that np as long as it's on a non-conductive surface

the easiest one being the box it came in

& once it's energized, don't touch it

[rotund zealot]

Also

[bitter mason]

but it might be easier to put it in the case first. your call

[rotund zealot]

Ground yourself

When your building

Plug your pc into your wall and touch it whenever you move

Psu

I ment

Lol

[bitter mason]

ya static discharge can mess stuff up

[fossil cedar]

Meh its not really that important

You can but

[rotund zealot]

Safety first

[bitter mason]

haven't had that happen & I've been much less than careful but possibility exists

[rotund zealot]

Same i rarely ground myself

I have like an antistatic bracelet

But I never use it

[forest lava]

i use metal for discharge

[rotund zealot]

That metal should be grounded

Electricity needs to have a path to go to

[forest lava]

It is

[rotund zealot]

Well then your good

[forest lava]

Forgive how low quality this is (my camera refuses to focus under any condition so I literally have to screenshot the video screen for a stable image) but... That's not connected, is it?

Oh damn even I can't see that

Nvm let me try to make this camera work

[bitter mason]

it appears correct

easiest way to tell is if the clip is in place

[forest lava]

It is not

The 20+ is higher than the +4

[forest lava]

It's very low quality

You missed the part I was looking at

[bitter mason]

I mean that clip

[rotund zealot]

Try getting a better camera?

Lol

[forest lava]

lol

These aren't aligned, so I know that it's incorrect

[bitter mason]

can you take that same picture but about an inch to the left

[bitter mason]

the little tab on that is under that top kinda light gray in the picture looking part right?

[forest lava]

Yes

That's sad how it appears in the image. The grey tab is actually as black as its surroundings

[forest lava]

No

Is it safe to apply pressure

[fossil cedar]

Yes

[bitter mason]

^

[fossil cedar]

24 pin is built like a fricking tank

[forest lava]

ight thankfully I have a hammer lying around

[bitter mason]

you think both DIMMs in B (i.e., B1, B2) instead of A2, B2 could cause not even BIOS to show up?

lol not that much force

[fossil cedar]

Maybeeee

[bitter mason]

if you're having trouble put a few fingers behind the motherboard & push down with your thumb

[fossil cedar]

They tried just 1 stick?

[bitter mason]

well that was gonna be the next step but eh... well the motherboard came out first lol

[forest lava]

I feel like this 20+4 and the RAM may have been my only issues because boy this 24 pin is hard to install

My fingers are in terrible pain as we speak

[bitter mason]

lol just take it easy & don't get frustrated

[forest lava]

24 pin mobo, 8 pin cpu, and 8 pin gpu is plugged in

[bitter mason]

you may want to try squeezing those two together in addition to pushing down

[forest lava]

k

[bitter mason]

oh if you got it clipped then nvm

I meant it as a way to make it easier to get the 20pin part in all the way

[forest lava]

I'll keep that in mind when I actually put it in the case

What's next

[bitter mason]

I guess while you're at it, make sure the PSU side of the connection is in well too

[forest lava]

It's one of those PSUs with the integrated cables

[bitter mason]

ah non-modular okay

ready to fire it up?

[forest lava]

I believe so

[bitter mason]

alright cool lmk lol

[forest lava]

The 6+2 labeled PCIE goes into the GPU, right?

[bitter mason]

yes

the GPU can take anywhere from 1-3 of those connections, but I'd think yours likely just needs the one

[forest lava]

Yeah just one

[bitter mason]

make sure that one clips also

[forest lava]

And uh if the fan spins it works?

Or do I need to hook it to the monitor

[bitter mason]

well ideally you'd wanna hook it up to the monitor just to be sure

your motherboard doesn't have any of the indicator LEDs

wait

before the PSU fan wasn't spinning?

[forest lava]

It still isn't

Mono or GPU HDMI?

[bitter mason]

does it have a switch on the back called smart fan or anything like that?

[forest lava]

mobo*

[bitter mason]

GPU

5600x does not have integrated graphics so that motherboard HDMI slot is useless unless you change CPUs

[forest lava]

It's the AMD wraith stealth thing that comes with the CPU

[bitter mason]

I assume that's spinning?

[forest lava]

nope

[bitter mason]

where do you have it hooked up to?

[forest lava]

CPU fan pins

[bitter mason]

motherboards won't POST if there's no fan connected to the CPU fan header

Either of those should be fine

[forest lava]

I'm going to assume that this post failed

[bitter mason]

manual goes to the top one but it likely doesn't not matter

[bitter mason]

can you send a picture of the back of the PSU?

where the wall plugs in I mean

not at the wall like just the back

[fossil cedar]

I'd go with fan 1

[bitter mason]

lol I always forget this PSU is a silly RGB one

[bitter mason]

and you say the PSU's fan does not spin up?

[forest lava]

Nothing activates whatsoever

[bitter mason]

eh dumb question but you are sure the wall receptacle has power right?

lol

[forest lava]

Right

Tested it already

[bitter mason]

okay well

that could mean a few things

the most likely of which is that your Case connection is incorrect

i.e. your power button

it could also mean PSU is bad but that's pretty unlikely

[forest lava]

It could be the power cord

[bitter mason]

could also mean the connection to the motherboard still isn't good

yup could be that too

[forest lava]

It's not the one that came with the psu because that was missing when I got it

[bitter mason]

they're very common cables so it should be fine

can you send a picture of those connections?

the easiest way to tell if your PSU is bad is to do this:

[forest lava]

Wait I need those to power it on?

I thought I could just use the psu switch

[bitter mason]

but I would make sure that the connections for the front panel are correct first

[bitter mason]

noo

lol

those need to be connected

not necessarily HDD LED, reset, or PLED (though I would connect those) but definitely you need to connect the power connections

cuz when you press the power switch on your case, that tells the motherboard to send a signal (thru those two pins that currently have a blue jumper in them in the picture) to turn on

[forest lava]

ah

[bitter mason]

otherwise your PSU won't turn on

[forest lava]

I see

Wait so what's the PSU switch for?

[bitter mason]

to cut power from the system entirely, like to change out components, clean the dust out, etc.

now there is an option in BIOS to immediately turn on after power loss, in which case the computer would turn on as soon as you throw that switch, but you're not gonna be able to change that setting until you get the computer running at least once lol

even when you shut down, the computer still uses a little power

[forest lava]

good to know

After I try this, I'm gonna head to bed after troubleshooting it

Too tired, and it's 3 am

[bitter mason]

6am here so I feel you

[bright dome]

yup 6 am here

[bitter mason]

but not having the front panel connection is almost certainly the reason. the RAM was a possibility but this is like for sure unless something is really messed up somehow

[bright dome]

but I'm excited because my new system is running my game at an avg of 129fps

[bitter mason]

nice

[bright dome]

IKR

[bitter mason]

1080p, 1440p? Doubt it's 4K, & if it is I'm jealous haha

[bright dome]

14440

1440

[bitter mason]

nice

[bright dome]

I'm waiting to see how it runs when i get my 3060ti friday

[bitter mason]

I hear from virtually everyone that 1440p is the best setting cuz it's nice middle ground between picture quality & performance. I stick to 4K cuz I'm hard headed I guess

[bright dome]

LOL

[bitter mason]

what are you using now?

[bright dome]

6500

Radeon RX 6500 XT

[bitter mason]

noice

[bright dome]

bestbuy shot me an offer for the 3060ti so i got it

[bitter mason]

is a 3060ti significantly better?

[forest lava]

Yes...

[bitter mason]

I should probably know this but haha

[bright dome]

should be lol

[forest lava]

6500 XT is almost as bad as the 5500 XT

[bitter mason]

6500xt is the one that benefits a lot from PCIe 4.0 v. 3.0 or something?

[forest lava]

Not even joking

[bitter mason]

it's about even with or slightly behind the 3050?

[mossy venture]

3050 is a bit worse than 2060

6500xt loses to 1650 super

3060 ti is about equal to 2080 super

[bitter mason]

2060 was up to 30% better than 3050 if I remember my GN videos correctly

[forest lava]

YES

And this is 4gb wtf

[bright dome]

then I'm glad im getting the 3060ti this friday

[bitter mason]

noice

now enable XMP lol'

[forest lava]

What's that?

[mossy venture]

Under oc tweaker

[bitter mason]

only one DIMM installed rn?

[forest lava]

Yeah

Once I install the mobo later, I'll actually put the rest in

[bitter mason]

you may wanna put in both before you mess with XMP

[forest lava]

Ah so that'll wait until later

Thank you so much though

[mossy venture]

How many ram sticks is it?

[forest lava]

Eh, I have six, all from a friend, and he doesn't even know which are which

[bitter mason]

but long story short, XMP makes your RAM run a lot faster than JEDEC which is like 2133mhz. Usually XMP is at least 3000-3200 but... well I won't get into all that crazy stuff but faster RAM with XMP is better for just about everything

[mossy venture]

I would try to find the ram that's the same and use that

[forest lava]

Yeah

[mossy venture]

Mixing kits with xmp is not a great idea

[bitter mason]

usually the serial numbers are one different on the label

[bright dome]

this is my system

thats ddr4 3600cl

[bitter mason]

nice. I wanna get into 12th gen at some point but I spent too much on 10th & Zen 3 lol

[mossy venture]

I'm going to be going for a 12th gen i5 and b660 summertime, or I'll pick up a used 5600x since I already have a b550

[forest lava]

I might try using all four sticks of the Fury RAM. They have slightly different numbers but are mostly the same, and they came in two packs, so they might be the same ram from different packages

[bright dome]

lol, just bought my son the ditto of my system except im giving him the video card i have now when my 3060 comes in

[bitter mason]

You can run some really fast ram on 12th gen regardless if it’s DDR4 or 5

[forest lava]

Imma try to get some shut eye now that I know this'll work

[bright dome]

i went with what the techies here told me to get and it is working just like they said

[forest lava]

I have to thank you again

This was nagging at me all day

[bitter mason]

glad you got it. I'm usually around here if you need more help feel free to ping me

[forest lava]

Alright, I'll keep that in mind

[bitter mason]

definitely set XMP tho lol

it only takes a few seconds & really helps

[bright dome]

okay where and what specifically is XMP

[forest lava]

I will once I tinker with my RAM

[bitter mason]

also if you wanna send me a picture of all the RAM sticks with their labels showing, I can probably tell you which go together

[forest lava]

Sure

[bright dome]

and is it even an option on my system?

[bitter mason]

definitely

you hae a 12700K

[bright dome]

yes

[bitter mason]

K means the processor is unlocked

and pretty much entirely overclockable

which motherboard do you have?

[bright dome]

msi pro z690 wifi ddr4

[fossil cedar]

It basically lets your ram run at it's advertised speeds... By default it will run really slow

[bright dome]

hey Pato how ya be

and thanks for all the help and advice on my system

so howe do i fix that?

[fossil cedar]

Hey

Glad you got it up and running

So if you enter into bios it should be in the top left for you

[bright dome]

it runs like a dream, so I bought my son the ditto of mine lol

[forest lava]

@bitter mason

The other two sticks of RAM definitely go together, but they aren't branded

Talking about the ones not shown in images

[bright dome]

okay I'll check that out, do you know what button gets me into bios?

[forest lava]

They're the green motherboard looking ones

[fossil cedar]

Glad to hear :)

[forest lava]

You should be able to boot BIOS during advanced recovery/restart no?

[bright dome]

i"ll see brb

[fossil cedar]

Easiest way is to turn off the pc, press the power button to turn back on... Then mash the delete key

[bright dome]

LOL ok ill do it

[bitter mason]

I think that's two sets & they go together based on the highlighted numbers

1820 with 1820 & 1908 with 1908

[forest lava]

So I can use all four for 16 GB?

And 1820 goes in A1 and A2 and 1908 goes in B1 and B2?

[bitter mason]

they're all HX426C15FBK2/8 so probably buttt not necessarily. More than likely yes because they all have the same chips on them, but the possibility exists they don't. I'd start with putting in one set then going to BIOS to see what its XMP profile is, then do the same with the other set. More than likely, they'll match

of course you always can run them together but how well depends

every single type of RAM will run default speed of 2133, but ideally you wanna do better than that lol

[forest lava]

Aye

Building a PC problem now has a sequel involving #storage-devices lmfao

[bright dome]

okay so there were multiple profiles when i selected profile one it said +1 >+2 on the ram does this double the spweed?

[bitter mason]

worst case, you can use them at default speed until you come up on ~$65+ to get a new kit but I think they should be fine

[forest lava]

Good to know

[bitter mason]

no those should be the manufacturer's different XMP profiles, typically the first one (XMP 1) is the faster of the two & the second one is a backup

[bright dome]

is this the freq that my ram is running at?

[bitter mason]

if the kit says, 3600c16-18-18-38, that's typically its highest XMP profile. If XMP is not enabled, you're likely running the default 2133

[forest lava]

Now I've found out that I can't install windows on my usb flash drive. It's a ~32 GB and it's completely empty of any possibile files. Even windows acknowledges it as 28+ GB. Yet I can't move windows to it and I can't download windows to it (says it's not enough storage, despite only being 5.6 GB)

[bitter mason]

yes & no

[frank stirrup]

yeah

[bitter mason]

DDR stands for Double Data Rate so that frequency you see if actually half of what it's running at in total, so you should be running 3600mhz (1800mhz x 2)

[frank stirrup]

thats the frequency

[bitter mason]

@frank stirrup or @fossil cedar can explain better. They're all technical. I'm just a law student lol

[fossil cedar]

That 2x is the advertised frequency but technically it's actually half the advertised frequency because of how DDR -double data rate works

[frank stirrup]

1800mhz at dual data rate(ddr) means 2 transfers per clock so its effectively double the speed

[fossil cedar]

So that's correct

[frank stirrup]

so 3600mts

[bright dome]

ok, ty you all

[frank stirrup]

give urself some credit lad

ur really good at pcs too

and you get better by the day

[little osprey]

📠

[bright dome]

yopu know what a shame?

[bitter mason]

ah I should've gotten thru this quicker. dude didn't have his front panel connections on & it took me a few hours to get there lol

[little osprey]

how people sleep on x79

[bright dome]

i got my computer science degree over 25 years ago LOL

[bitter mason]

haha thanks. It's more of a hobby tho. Ya'll are studying it

[forest lava]

No you were really helpful and I'm just glad it worked

[little osprey]

its a hobby for me too

and im already on my way to exploding vrms on the daily

😔

[bitter mason]

haha thanks. All's well that ends well

[forest lava]

Besides you're not getting paid to help me so you're not obligated to solve things as fast as possible

[bright dome]

ok brb peeps gonna go play my game and see if the change made a diff

[fossil cedar]

I mean yea and no, we don't actually study desktop hardware at all

I study CS + electronic engineering

[frank stirrup]

my troubleshooting methodology is monitor cable, did it ever work before? cmos or psu cables. do fans spin up when u press the power button? yes -check ram and cpu, no-check front panel header or short pins and verify psu is plugged in

[little osprey]

dont stress about "not knowing enough" about computer stuff or whatever, it's really not worth it. and anyone who seriously judges you because you dont know something is a mega loser @bitter mason

[fossil cedar]

Enjoy

[frank stirrup]

same

pato and me study mostly software

with some electronics

[bitter mason]

haha true. but I've gotten an enormous amount of help on newegg discord so I feel obligated to make sure the bridge these guys built stays in good shape lol

[little osprey]

ive been trying to learn slowly but surely the past several months about overclocking stuff, and it's been a nice experience

[fossil cedar]

I'm as mix but like it's low level stuff like working with bread boards n stuff

[little osprey]

breb

[forest lava]

Hopefully I get to that point too, where I can help others in need

[frank stirrup]

@bitter mason

[bitter mason]

took me a year of failing & trying again lol

[little osprey]

#build-pics message

[frank stirrup]

surprisingly fans spin up even with a dead cpu

[bitter mason]

ya that's a great approach

cuz the most basic things are usually overlooked from what I've seen

[frank stirrup]

yeah

[bitter mason]

hardware failures are distant second I'd guess

[little osprey]

breadboard

[fossil cedar]

I seen

[little osprey]

you reminded me of that lol

[bitter mason]

lol whoa

that's way above my head

[frank stirrup]

bread boards are cool

[forest lava]

The single most painful part of this build is installing the 24 pin

[bitter mason]

I mostly know things from screwing them up myself

[little osprey]

i suck at making them

[frank stirrup]

if you thought that was tough now try removing it

those god damn things never come off

[little osprey]

i eventually got a proper alarm system thing working though

[bitter mason]

ya but at least once it's in you probably won't need to take it out for months, if not years

[forest lava]

I already did, took me ages to do it careful

Now I have to do it for the third time

[fossil cedar]

[bitter mason]

lol it should loosen up a bit since the metal inside will bend ever so slightly (nothing bad don't worry)

[frank stirrup]

just jiggle it when removing

side to side

becomes easier

[fossil cedar]

They're annoying but also it's annoying i have to do controller design 🤮 but they don't have a pcb design class ;-;

[little osprey]

i havent taken a pcb design class or anything, i dropped out of engineering

[fossil cedar]

Controller design is literally the worst subject

I have to repeat controller design

[little osprey]

im probably gonna drop out of college

[bitter mason]

if you do, go to trade school. become an electrician, elevator installer, or best of all, HVAC tech.

well of those three elevator installer pays the best

[little osprey]

[bitter mason]

but HVAC you can also make great money

[little osprey]

i wanna do something in IT

[bitter mason]

electrician is dangerous if you work for a company like I did where we did everything hot

[little osprey]

even the semi-boring IT stuff

[bitter mason]

and elevator installer is also dangerous for obvious reasons

HVAC too but I think to a lesser extent

[little osprey]

breakfast in 9 minutes

hurray

[fossil cedar]

IT helpdesk is decent

Doesn't require a degree

[little osprey]

definitely not doing remote support

[bitter mason]

some HVAC dude told me to make really good money, take the time on your own to go get the necessary clearances to work in airports, ports, or other places with restricted access

[fossil cedar]

Nah i mean like proper helpdesk support like in a company

Where you would be working back end and or running around doing some things

[little osprey]

🤔

[bitter mason]

how much college have you completed & have you taken loans?

[little osprey]

2 semesters sorta, no loans

[bitter mason]

oh that's great then

not that I'm saying to drop out but less of a hassle if you go that route

I went back to law school after like 7 years of clowning

knowing what I know now, I probably should've gone to trade school right out of high school but hindsight 20/20

it's such a buyer's market for trade jobs too. Everyone had this attitude like going to college & getting an underwater basket weaving degree for $30K was worth it over having to work with your hands & what not

A journeyman electrician does a lot better than a art history major working at starbucks & has a lot more upward mobility

you can make six figures being a lineman

or even better, if you get your masters, you can make an unlimited amount running your own business

[mossy venture]

Personally I'm just not built for that kind of work. Im too clumsy and have too many issues with my body

I worked for a contractor last summer and it didn't go so well

[bitter mason]

fair enough. It's definitely not for everyone. heck I was scared as hell many times

[mossy venture]

I managed to burn myself on a screw

Somehow

[frank stirrup]

what does it entail

[bitter mason]

done that too. They get hot going in & out of wood, etc lol

[frank stirrup]

how

just

how

[mossy venture]

Because I'm smrt

[frank stirrup]

LOL did u change nick to quacca because i said the b in bacca stands for biostar?

@mossy venture

[bitter mason]

I've fallen off an extension ladder (not really my fault), burned myself on a heat gun, cut up my hands probably 500x, fallen into the water (also not my fault dammit), & been so terrified (snooker truck on Sunshine Skyway bridge)

not to mention I've been electrocuted by a myriad of voltages lol

[mossy venture]

Yes

[frank stirrup]

LOL

Legend

[mossy venture]

I said in general last night

[bitter mason]

277v was the worst

[mossy venture]

It's your fault for this name

[fossil cedar]

Hell

[frank stirrup]

Ahhhh das no gud

[frank stirrup]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/400698216645001226.webp?size=48&quality=lossless

[fossil cedar]

Nuh uh

[ripe halo]

Forgot about industrial millwright

[bitter mason]

tbh, I don't know what that is

[ripe halo]

[bitter mason]

what is it?

[ripe halo]

It's a red seal industrial trade. There are millwrights in almost every industry in some way or form

Covers so much it's easier if you look it up, we get taught everything from machining to installation of machinery, rigging, compressor fundamentals, we even have to cover nuclear safety procedures in school. Electrical fundamentals power transmission

It's a good trade for you if you want opportunities to do something different every day

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6Y8gJM

unsure about ram and psu

[mossy venture]

Should be unsure about the case too

[little osprey]

:(

[mossy venture]

Ram, get silicon power 3200c16 kit it's $55

Psu get a rmx 650

[little osprey]

i don’t want blue ram lol

[mossy venture]

Case the mx410, p360a digital

Mx330 if it's in stock

[little osprey]

Bro i don’t need like a super budget build

[mossy venture]

There's other kits for around the same price

That case is literally $150

$185 actually

[forest lava]

If I ever ran a torture camp, I'd just make all my victims uninstall and install 24 pins for an hour straight a day

[mossy venture]

You complain about your gpu here frequently

Why blow your budget on a case instead of spending more on gpu

[forest lava]

Why buy a $150 case when there's great cases priced between $40 and $70?

[mossy venture]

Cameron what's your total budget for the build

Including gpu

[little osprey]

like $1.2 but i can always just wait more and get more cash

1.2k

[mossy venture]

1200?

[little osprey]

*=

[mossy venture]

Aight

[little osprey]

I just wanted the case

¯_(ツ)_/¯

i’m willing to wait another week to get money for it

and for the gpu i might try to get 3060ti but i haven’t seen any in stock or at least as much as 3060 has

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HWw278

[little osprey]

thx i gotta go to gym i’ll look at it later

[carmine swallow]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/76jV78 this is the build im currently using and i'm planning on slotting in a 3060ti. I was wondering if the 550W PSU im using is sufficient? It says the estimated wattage is 384, but should i get a PSU with 600W?

[mossy venture]

It'll be fine, my 3060 ti ran on a 500w d tier for months

That psu isn't the best but i wouldn't buy a new one if you already have it

[fossil cedar]

You un hping?

[fossil cedar]

You'll be fine that's a great power supply you already have, but yeah wattage estimators are bleh wouldn't go off them btw

[fringe iris]

Can some explain what the 6P+4E is on my 12600k and what it does

[mossy venture]

I thought it was mid priority c tier?

[mossy venture]

It's the cores

P is performance

E is efficiency

E perform worse but are much more energy efficient

[fringe iris]

Is it something on my default or i have to enable it

By*

[mossy venture]

It's on by default

[fossil cedar]

It's focus gx

[mossy venture]

Must've got it confused with smthn else

[fossil cedar]

P cores are normal cores like performance you're used to, e cores are lower power cores

[fringe iris]

Alright so everything is enabled my default correct?

It says right now im at 3.88 ghz as my speed

My base is at 3.69ghz just making sure im getting everything base out of this cpu

[fossil cedar]

Yup

[forest lava]

Where does this go?