building-and-recc-chat

[frank stirrup]

@rancid sonnet

[rancid sonnet]

I took the battery out

No

[frank stirrup]

did you disconnect the power supply as well?

[rancid sonnet]

yes

[frank stirrup]

like unplug it from the wall

[rancid sonnet]

No

[frank stirrup]

and wait for 5 mins

[rancid sonnet]

Yes

[frank stirrup]

so you didnt unplug the power supply

[rancid sonnet]

I unplus from the pcu

[frank stirrup]

wot

[rancid sonnet]

Unplugged*

[frank stirrup]

like from the back of the psu?

ah ok

[rancid sonnet]

Yes

[frank stirrup]

what os u running

[rancid sonnet]

Windows 10

I have it pre installed on a hard drive

[frank stirrup]

unplug and replug the hard drive

[rancid sonnet]

I did

[frank stirrup]

try another port

is it a hard drive or an ssd btw

[rancid sonnet]

And tried a new cable and port and its detected in bios

[frank stirrup]

then select it as the boot drive

boot off it

[rancid sonnet]

How do I do that

[frank stirrup]

should be an option under the boot tab

[rancid sonnet]

Ok

[frank stirrup]

if that doesnt work disable secure boot and enable csm

[rancid sonnet]

Ok

I will try that when I get home

Thanks

[burnt spruce]

Hello

Ryzen 5 5600G
MSI Mag Mortar Wifi/ MSI 550M PRO VDH WIFI
G.Skill Tridentz Neo 16x2 3600mhz
Gigabyte 512GB NVme Gen 3
Seasonic SSR-750FX Focus Plus 750W 80+ White Gold Modular
Xigmatek Gaming X Arctic White with 4 Pieces ARGB Fan
Cooler Master Hyper 212 Led Turbo ARGB

Are all of these compatible ?

[fossil cedar]

Yes but i would make some changes

[burnt spruce]

What changes ?

I plan to buy a gpu in the future for dual monitor

[fossil cedar]

Well first of all what country are you in?

[burnt spruce]

Philippines

I only have few choices

Would you like to see ?

[fossil cedar]

Ahh emm what are your other options for case, ssd cpu cooler and power supply?

[burnt spruce]

Err can't attached pics?

Is it okay to pm you to send you the list ?

[fossil cedar]

Yeah you're not high enough level it's okay tho I'm mod so i can see in logs

[burnt spruce]

How can I show you the lists ?

[fossil cedar]

I have the list

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1HSSedg4Zk1-_hiQp_Fcw0Z-nbCH150N9/view?fbclid=IwAR1C3ynMTodD8FpF6XPfAuo3UROgpAGoZ9OZEq0pkkw797XPPwdKHYZGIQk

That one right?

[burnt spruce]

Yesss

Ryzen 5 5600G
MSI Mag Mortar Wifi/ MSI 550M PRO VDH WIFI
G.Skill Tridentz Neo 16x2 3600mhz
Gigabyte 512GB NVme Gen 3
HDD Western Digital 2TB 3.5
Seasonic SSR-750FX Focus Plus 750W 80+ White Gold Modular
Xigmatek Gaming X Arctic White with 4 Pieces ARGB Fan
Cooler Master Hyper 212 Led Turbo ARGB

These are my choices . Around 1k$ budget .

[fossil cedar]

What's budget in local currency?

[burnt spruce]

50,000-52,000 php

[fossil cedar]

Okay

[fossil cedar]

Em the link you sent has no msi b550 boards btw, both are good tho

[burnt spruce]

This Mobo out of stocks atm

[burnt spruce]

Ya

Since I prefer with Bluetooth and Wifi

What changes can you suggest Sir ?

[fossil cedar]

So from what i can see in the list, I'd only change the case to the montech x3 mesh

[burnt spruce]

Montech is better ?

Montech X3 Mesh RGB Fan Black?

[burnt spruce]

So I should just wait for the Mobo to be available then I can go buy?

[frank stirrup]

Haha he called you sir @fossil cedar imagine being old

Are yer bones creaking yet

[burnt spruce]

Hahahaha sorry I'm new🥺

[fossil cedar]

The b550 prime is also a decent choice so it's up to you

[burnt spruce]

Err it's just showing respect I guess haha

[fossil cedar]

No worries lol

[fossil cedar]

Jokes on you I've had a bad back since 14 👴

[burnt spruce]

Are all the parts I chose compatible sir ? Sorry not familiar with it haha

[fossil cedar]

Yep

[burnt spruce]

But MSI Board is way better ?

[fossil cedar]

Yeah it's a decent budget case

[fossil cedar]

Emm it's better but both are plenty for a 5600g

[frank stirrup]

Jokes on you my knee actually gives me trouble already

[fossil cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/love-anniversary-gif-24144571

[burnt spruce]

I think it don't have Bluetooth and Wifi?

[fossil cedar]

It says it has wifi, which will include Bluetooth, b550 prime a wifi

[burnt spruce]

ASUS B550M-K Prime ? Won't I encounter any problem with this in longterm use haha

[frank stirrup]

If a board has ac ax or wifi in its name its got wifi

[fossil cedar]

Not that one, the one at the bottom, b550m prime a wifi ii

[burnt spruce]

Yes sorry I checked the diff one haha

[burnt spruce]

Will check this one. Or maybe I'll just wait for the stocks of both MSI Boards

[mossy venture]

Rookie, I've had a bad back since I was born

[burnt spruce]

Thank you for the suggestion by the way .

[burnt spruce]

But MSI mobo are way better than Asus prime ?

[mossy venture]

Model over brand

[fossil cedar]

The mortar and pro vdh wifi are slightly better but both are fine for your needs, i don't think the mortar has wifi though

[burnt spruce]

Got Mortar Wifi I think

[burnt spruce]

Noted po

I'm curious if the 5000 series gonna work without updating the bios ?

I mean like it will work out of the box without updating coz I read some of the reviews.

[fossil cedar]

It should by now

[burnt spruce]

Okay thank you again. I'll get this board since it's really compatible with all the parts I chose I guess ?

Also how do I update the bios if ever ? Since some says it works for the r5 5600g then others says not so need to update the bios

[quasi pollen]

I have a ryzen 5 3600 and just upgraded from a 1650 super to a Rtx 2060. Performance dropped though

Would cpu overheating bring down performance until games are unplayable?

[stoic island]

Use smth like hwinfo64 and check if it's actually overheating

[quasi pollen]

I used the AMD ryzen Mater utility and it’s capping at 95degrees

But I haven’t changed anything since before the upgrade

[mossy venture]

That ain't good

90c and above throttling starts, and damage can occur

[old hearth]

one of my fans, makes a little rattle noise when my pc goes under load for too long, do i have to replace it?

it gets quite loud

[quasi pollen]

Is it just a matter of changing the thermal paste or do I have to buy a new cooler. I turned off my pc for now

[fossil cedar]

It should work out of the box by now, if not you can always return it for one of the msi boards you previously mentioned as they have bios flashback

[stoic island]

Do you have a budget for a new cooler?

[quasi pollen]

Like around 70 dollars a CAD

I’ve ordered thermal paste, we’ll see if I have to go that far

[stoic island]

prob gammax gte

[stoic island]

if you get smth like this, it should come with some paste anyways
https://www.vuugo.com/deepcool-cpu-coolers-DP-MCH4-GMX-GTEV2.html

[little osprey]

is it worth it to buy a 5600g then buy a 3050 afterwards?

[viral ore]

no

assuming you already have a 3400g

[fossil cedar]

Get gpu first then go 5600x

[viral ore]

would be better off upgrading to 5600x at the same time you get your 3050

[fossil cedar]

If you want upgrade

[viral ore]

exactly

[frank stirrup]

maybe 2-3C

not much more

[little osprey]

Okay thanks

[frank stirrup]

cancel order

and buy the cooler mr111 recommended

[stoic island]

Extra paste doesn't hurt tbf

[burnt spruce]

I mean in asus prime?

[stoic island]

If a few dollars isn't an issue, some extra thermal paste can be nice if you remount later

Which one?

B550-a or ..?

[stoic island]

There's a lot of Asus prime boards

[burnt spruce]

B550m prime a wifi II

[fossil cedar]

Yeah i was referring to the Asus prime board

[frank stirrup]

if you plan on repasting something sure

otherwise no point

[stoic island]

no flashback on that.

[burnt spruce]

How can I update the bios if ever ?

[stoic island]

need an older CPU

so borrow someone's zen 2 chip

[burnt spruce]

If don't have can't update it ?

[stoic island]

Can't update a motherboard without a compatible CPU if you don't have flashback

[burnt spruce]

So MSI B550M Pro VDH Wifi or MSI Mag Mortar Wifi better since no need to update the bios and have flashback ?

I'm not sure sorry

[fossil cedar]

you also might need to update the bios but you wont need an older cpu for it

[burnt spruce]

Yes it seems a lot easier than the other one

[little osprey]

Is coolermaster sfx better than corsair?

[fossil cedar]

[potent portal]

Between the ones on the lists before they're on the same A tier

[bold prism]

hey guys im trying to pick a case. anyone know which is better? lets say price is not a factor into the consideration

phateks eclipse series p400 or the corsair 4000x rgb

[fossil cedar]

p400a digital in every way except 4000x can top mount radiators where p400a cant but you can front mount in p400a so not an issue

[bold prism]

wait you cant top mount on the p400?

[fossil cedar]

nope just top fans

[dense ravine]

I’m the P400a doesn’t it mostly just fit 240mm radiators in the front. I thought I read somewhere that a 360 will fit but you have to completely remove the had cage

Hdd *

[fossil cedar]

360 does fit yes, idk if you have to remove the hdd cage or not

[bold prism]

do i have to upgrade my water cooling to a bigger size?

i got 2*120

it supports 3*120 and 2 *140

[fossil cedar]

it also supports 240mm on the front

[bold prism]

is fitting the radiator on top or on the side more optimal?

also should i look into nzxt 510?

[little osprey]

Anyone have a cable extension recommendation?

[fossil cedar]

No

[fossil cedar]

Top is slightly better but front with a better case is superior

[fossil cedar]

Asia horse do decent ones

[potent portal]

Cablemod are nice but $$$

[woeful storm]

Heya Fal are you busy by chance? And if not could I ask a smol favor? I got a pc im selling locally I don't want to post the link here as I know it's against the rules. But if you could just check out my post and let me know if it seems fair from an outside perspective (it's a local pickup only) so I'm not shopping for a customer rn

[potent portal]

Sure you can dm it to me

[woeful storm]

Sweet bro thanks

[unkempt oxide]

I need help with windows. I asked Microsoft and they said my current windows license that came with my laptop is incompatible with a new device so basically I have to get a new windows license. How do I go about doing that? I need it for my new pc build

[potent portal]

Yeah that's usually how those oem licenses work.
You can get a cheap key on eBay or grey market websites, $5-25. We can't link for legal reasons.

[little osprey]

Hey guys, whats the best ram for ryzen5 5600x/3060ti. Should I go 16gb 3600 or 32gb 3600. Brand recommendations would be great too!

[fossil cedar]

get some 3600mhz cl16, 16gb or 32gb depends on how much you'll be using

[potent portal]

If you're just gaming with some browser tabs and discord open 16gb is plenty

[little osprey]

Yeah I just play fps with spotify and browser on the background haha

Should I just go 16gb?

[potent portal]

Sure. I've never needed more than that personally except on my server.

[little osprey]

Thank you!

[unkempt oxide]

Can I dm you?

[serene hedge]

is it possible to make an IO shield even though the PC has a built in IO shield?

[potent portal]

Sure I've got a little time

[potent portal]

What do you mean?

The case has an IO shield built in or the motherboard does?

[serene hedge]

the case

[potent portal]

What case?

If it's a case that's been used previously you can just pop out the old shield

[serene hedge]

iv'e used it previously

[potent portal]

Was it a prebuilt or oem (dell, hp, etc) computer?

[serene hedge]

it's just the frame

[serene hedge]

dell

[potent portal]

Well if it's one that they designed to only fit their motherboard you'll need to do a bit of modifying, but if the shield looks removable you can pop it out with a little force, and maybe a hammer.

[serene hedge]

how would i modify it

if you want to know how old it is, it's rocking an AMD athlon x2 250

[potent portal]

Probably with a dremel

[serene hedge]

and then with the new motherboard, just stick the new IO shield there?

[potent portal]

Yep

[raw crane]

WHAT DOES THIS MEAN 😩😩

[fossil cedar]

Only time I could have used more is when playing COD

[carmine swallow]

Having a little trouble where this front panel connector goes

It’s a usb 3.0 front panel usb connector

I tried fitting it on the same place the Manuel says but this cable seems too big

I’m using a b560 a asus strix mobo

[lyric thistle]

The board has two connectors, one is a USBC type, the other is a regular USB3.0 two port connector

The USB C is the one above, 3.0 is below

Between those two capacitors and that screw on the board

[carmine swallow]

The u32g1 right?

I tried putting it in that slot but it just doesn’t go in

[lyric thistle]

Take a pic of the end of the cable, facing the camera

Can't tell if it has a cap on it or where the slot is lol

[lyric thistle]

Other way lol

Imagine it's a snake and the snake is facing the camera

[carmine swallow]

Wait…I think it was a cap lol

[lyric thistle]

There ya go lol

[carmine swallow]

I used a screwdriver to open it cuz it was impossible to open it

Looks fine now thanks

[lyric thistle]

👍

[earnest olive]

never seen a cap on one of those before

what is there to protect lol

[lyric thistle]

The thing that needs to be protected is the plug side xd

[carmine swallow]

Yeah weird and it was really hard to take off too. I almost thought id break it cuz I was applying so much pressure with the screwdriver to pry it open

Luckily everything works

[strong raft]

Lol, on another server someone tried install a gpu with the pcie protector on it. . Build looks good, even if it looks like rainbow cotton candy

[carmine swallow]

Lmao yikes

And yea I know, I still gotta download the drivers and asus armoury crate

Then I can change the color

I just realized I forgot to cut out the led lights outta the cpu fan. Now I gotta take this out again 🤡

[lyric thistle]

Epic

I like the thin line type rgb

[earnest olive]

exactly lol

protect pins not holes

[carmine swallow]

They not even protecting the holes

They made holes in the cover 😂

[burnt spruce]

Hello can I ask which one is better psu?
Seasonic SSR-750FX Focus Plus 750W 80+ White Gold Modular
Or Gigabyte UD750GM 750PLUS 750Watts 80 PLUS Gold Fully Modular

[stoic island]

Are those your only possible options..?

Neither is a great option, one is an old platform with some known issues, the other a PSU model I can't find much info on by a company that had a pretty bad failure with their product

[earnest olive]

UD stands for ultra durable so it must be good

[burnt spruce]

SEASONIC SSR-850FX FOCUS PLUS 850W 80+ GOLD MODULAR

Only few choices wait

[earnest olive]

same old platform with higher wattage lol

[stoic island]

(FX is the couple year old variant of GX, a lot of those have transient issues)

[burnt spruce]

These are the lists

[stoic island]

oh god

[earnest olive]

may i ask why these are your only options

local shop in a different country?

[burnt spruce]

Yes

[stoic island]

mwe v2 is good, everything else is bad

[earnest olive]

no online marketplaces?

[stoic island]

What country if you don't mind us asking?

[burnt spruce]

It's a specific shop since I'm only buying parts then it includes free build I guess

[burnt spruce]

Have.

[burnt spruce]

Aren't that one is overkill?

[earnest olive]

so they will build it for free if you buy all the parts there

i see

[burnt spruce]

Yes

[earnest olive]

are you opposed to building it yourself?

would prefer some different psu options

[stoic island]

I mean, the option is either overkill good psu, or all of the rest is pretty bad PSUs

[earnest olive]

kinda cool that they offer that though

[stoic island]

and at that point, I'd try to build it yourself if possible

The selection is quite sad

[burnt spruce]

Ain't that familiar with building haha

[earnest olive]

maybe you can ask them if they'll take an outside psu

[stoic island]

Going down the list, can't trust gigabyte atm after they made a literal explosive psu, p-b is bad, cv is bad, fx is old with transient issues, s12iii is the worst seasonic branded psu

[earnest olive]

probably not but worth a shot?

power supply not really a part you want to make compromises on

[stoic island]

And well, building isn't that hard when it comes down to it

lots of guides, lots of resources that helps, decent documentation

[burnt spruce]

What psu can you recommend me ?

[stoic island]

If you can buy from an outside source, EVGA G6 850w for 108$ is a pretty neat deal atm

well, for the US

Not sure where you are

[burnt spruce]

Philippines haha

[stoic island]

shoppee time

[earnest olive]

ah, i've heard from some filipinos that it's not fun to source parts there

[burnt spruce]

850w ? Isn't 750 enough for 3060 and Ryzen 5 5600g?

[burnt spruce]

Many scalpers haha

[stoic island]

Definitely enough, its just a good deal in the US, on sale on amazon

This seems like a decent deal
https://shopee.ph/Seasonic-Focus-80-PLUS-Gold-2020-GX-GM-SGX-PSU-750W-650W-80-SFX-ATX-Power-Supply-Semi-Full-Modular-i.73467985.4063706108

might also have to check lazada but I don't like lazada

another option on shopee that'll work
https://shopee.ph/Corsair-CX-F-CX550F-CX650F-CX750F-550W-650W-750W-RGB-Fully-Modular-Black-White-PSU-Power-Supply-i.50916350.11963476380

These are assuming you can confirm legitimacy, not too familiar with Philippine markets and all

[burnt spruce]

Yes will check other choices

[burnt spruce]

Will buy this one then

[stoic island]

Price is high converted to usd, but well, that's not the US, so buy at your digression relative to other prices for PSUs in Philippines

[burnt spruce]

Thank you by the way

[stoic island]

You're welcome

[burnt spruce]

I buy 750 or 650w?

[burnt spruce]

This one

[stoic island]

Either way is fine

[burnt spruce]

This one would do? Corsair 750w cx750m 80PLUS BRONZE fully modular

[stoic island]

Would not do CXm, coil whine is annoying and parts are lower quality in general

[burnt spruce]

But CXF is okay?

[stoic island]

CX-F is a different platform, its better

[burnt spruce]

Gigabyte P750GM 80plus gold fully modular

Seasonic 750fx focus 80PLUS gold fully modular

Corsair cx750m 80PLUS bronze fully modular

Which one should I choose? Haha

[stoic island]

first one literally blows up (kinda randomly), third one can have annoying coil whine and not the highest quality, middle has a good chance of having transient issues

[burnt spruce]

So overall all of it sucks?

Aorus 750w 80plus gold fully modular

This one?

[stoic island]

on a sucky scale, P-GM is wayyy at the end, fx has a chance of having an issue that'll suck if you get any gpu that spikes, cx-m is just on the lower quality end

FX, when no issues, is a good psu

[stoic island]

Is it AP-GM or something else?

[earnest olive]

there's 0 chance that a 3060 will ever spike enough to cause problems with a 750w psu while being paired with a 5600g

but might cause problems assuming the psu will be kept for a few years and see some hardware upgrades

[burnt spruce]

Not indicated

[stoic island]

oh right 3060, forgot they specified gpu already

[earnest olive]

yeah it's just a matter of longevity

as long as that psu stays with a 3060 no issue

[burnt spruce]

Also gigabyte x570 aorus pro wifi a good Mobo?

[stoic island]

Its expensive

[earnest olive]

good, but cheaper b550s can do the job just as well

depends on what's available

[burnt spruce]

Ya this one only and Asus b550m a wifi II the ones which are available

[earnest olive]

that one would be fine

5600g not a demanding cpu, you can run it on any board that's compatible with it

[burnt spruce]

Yes prefer to buy MSI but not avail will see

[burnt spruce]

Aorus AP750GM 80PLUS GOLD FULLY MODULAR

[earnest olive]

why msi?

i changed mobo away from msi because i hated their software so much

[burnt spruce]

Msi mag b550M Mortar Wifi?

[burnt spruce]

Just read something that MSI mag are good hahaha

[earnest olive]

I mean sure they are

but other brands make some good products too

[burnt spruce]

Ryzen 5 5600G
Gigabyte X570 Aorus Pro Wifi
G-Skill Trident Neo RGB 16x2 3600Mhz DDR4
HDD Western Digital Blue 2TB 3.5
Gigabyte 512GB NVME Gen 3
Montech X3 Mesh RGB Fan White W/6 RGB Fan
Cooler Master 212 LED TURBO ARGB

These one ?

Then this psu Corsair CX750F 750W RGB Fully Modular Black

All of it would be good?

Sorry I'm not familiar with parts much

[burnt spruce]

What Mobo can you suggest? Haha sorry

[earnest olive]

I'd go with that asus b550 they have

and see if you can go 5600x instead of 5600g

[burnt spruce]

No igpu. I don't have gou yet. Haha

Itx board means just small board right ?

[earnest olive]

oh you need the igpu

yeah

[stoic island]

AP-GM can be good too, but cx-f is still good

[burnt spruce]

Ap-gm would do ?

[burnt spruce]

But I read review that it's hard to update the bios if ever

[burnt spruce]

Would I encounter any problem if these are the parts then the Corsair cxf ?

[stoic island]

nope

[earnest olive]

if the shop is building it for you, they should handle the bios update

[stoic island]

That'll be fine

[burnt spruce]

Since I plan to buy in that specific store then just buy a psu outside then give it to them

[burnt spruce]

Really?

[earnest olive]

i mean are they going to give you a pc that doesn't turn on

[burnt spruce]

I think they just check in bios if the parts are shown?

I guess ?

Like it works?

[earnest olive]

yeah it won't turn on if the bios is too old for the 5600g lol

just ask them to update it for you

[little osprey]

Just checking for a freind, what’s a better ssd

[earnest olive]

both are horrible for those prices

[little osprey]

He just wanted me to check

[earnest olive]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07XHMBQK3

[little osprey]

It doesn’t have to be from Walmart

[earnest olive]

get this unless no m.2 slots

[little osprey]

How do ypu clone data on to m.2

[earnest olive]

just download macrium reflect or something lol

[little osprey]

Ok

Do I need a special cable or anything

[earnest olive]

just install it into pc

then clone boot drive to it

[little osprey]

Ok

He’s gonna be upgrading from a hdd in a Ho prebuilt

[earnest olive]

does it have an m.2 slot?

[burnt spruce]

Noted about this take you!!

[little osprey]

I think

I’m like 99% sure it does

[burnt spruce]

Basically if gonna buy a psu it should be cx-f or MWe?

Can I ask what's the gonna be the problem with
Seasonic SSR-750FX Focus Plus 750W 80+ White Gold Modular
?

[little osprey]

Hey guys, whats the best 650w or 750w sfx out there?

[burnt spruce]

Is this the model you mentioned Sir?

[potent portal]

https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/
SFX ones are marked in green. One A tier unit is essentially as good as another.

[little osprey]

Does the coolermasters still have the fan noise problem?

[burnt spruce]

Is Corsair CVSeries 750 Gold good as psu?

[fossil cedar]

Not really

It's finee but if you need 750w you don't want to be using a CV

[burnt spruce]

Around how much

The CV series gold ?

750

It's like op in my place😂

[fossil cedar]

Sorry?

[frank stirrup]

gold rating says nothing about quality

[burnt spruce]

Around how much is the CV series gold 750

[fossil cedar]

There isn't even a CV gold

Only bronze

[burnt spruce]

This one ?

[fossil cedar]

That's RM

That's good power supply

[burnt spruce]

But the seller shows cv here

[frank stirrup]

if it says RM 750 its probably not a CV 750

[frank stirrup]

and it says bronze there

[fossil cedar]

Well that's CV but it's bronze

[frank stirrup]

colour of box=/= efficiency of psu

[burnt spruce]

Thank you I guess I should just go visit a physical store. The seller sends different picture each time

Thank you btw

[fossil cedar]

Oof yeah would not go to them

[burnt spruce]

SEASONIC FOCUS GX-850 80+ GOLD

This one good?

[fossil cedar]

Yup, just check the cultists list in the pins

[burnt spruce]

It's for the what?

Compatibility with the Mobo?

[fossil cedar]

Huh? It's a tier list of power supplies

[burnt spruce]

Sorry not knowledgeable in building pc

[fossil cedar]

No worries

[lyric thistle]

Motherboards are compatible with power supplies, at least largely in the case of consumer boards/PSUs, by nature of both conforming to standards and regulation

[potent portal]

12VO exists but is rare outside servers and workstations for now. Consumer desktops widely use the ATX standard.

[burnt spruce]

If compatible out of the box then there's no need to update ng bios right ?

[fossil cedar]

If it is it will work, sometimes it's no harm updating your bios anyway if there's security patches etc

[burnt spruce]

I can't update it coz I don't have older cpu . And the board doesn't support the flashback.

So still thinking whether to get Gigabyte X570 Aorus Pro Wifi or Asus B550M Prime Wifi II since these are the only choices. Sorry for asking a lot of questions.

[fossil cedar]

Sorry I'm confused what's the situation again?

[stoic island]

How big is the price difference?

And well, the shop should have extra chips and should be able to update the board for you

[burnt spruce]

Around 100$

The Asus prime is 133$ and the aorus is 231$

[stoic island]

Doesn't look like Aorus pro has flashback actually

Weird

[burnt spruce]

Since I'm checking reviews of Asus b550m prime wifi II

[burnt spruce]

Oh it doesn't support also?

[stoic island]

But well, the bios that supports Zen 3 came out a year ago, so there's a much higher chance today that the board you get has the correct update already

[burnt spruce]

I think it have q flash button and just need to download the file in aorus?

[burnt spruce]

So I should just go with the Asus prime? Since the shop kinda say it's up to the customer about compatibility etc . It doesn't include in the warranty

[stoic island]

Q flash plus is what gigabyte calls flashback, no flashback on aorus pro from what I can see though

[burnt spruce]

Q flash plus is way easier isn't it ?

[stoic island]

If they're decent people, they should help you with updating bios, it's a quick like 10 minute thing to plop a CPU in, update, take it out

[burnt spruce]

But the shop said it's compatible out of the box. Means no need to update the bios like it's plug and play with the Ryzen 5000 series ?

[stoic island]

Today, there's like a 85% chance it is, and if they have the box already, there's a good chance they already saw if the box said the "5000 compatible" piece boards with the correct bios has

[burnt spruce]

I made a thread in reddit also people say no definite answer. So I should just go with the aorus ? Since idk if the store will help in updating it if ever?

[burnt spruce]

Ya I think it's already compatible and no need to update but idk if I should gamble on it . So kinda hesitant about Asus prime

[burnt spruce]

Anyways thanks for always entertaining my questions . I appreciate ur help guys thank youuu!!

[long rock]

I’m still having audio port issues with my other headset

I don’t think the ports are grounded properly

Gonna spend 15 mins booting and re downloading drivers and all tha

I don’t think any of these ports for my audio on my case are grounded right

[stoic island]

Tried just moving your PC and setup to a different room in the house yet? Maybe go over to the living room and try it there?

[stoic island]

You're welcome

[long rock]

Idk what that would do those

I can’t just move stuff

I wonder if it’s because of my 24 pin by change

Chance

[stoic island]

Why not?

And why would it be 24pin?

It's annoying but moving to use a different socket from a different circuit in the house could fix things

[long rock]

But then if it works, I’d have to potentially permanently move my setup there

[stoic island]

No, if it works, it means you'll prob want to call an electrician to fix whatever's wrong with the circuit in your house

And that's probably a good thing to diagnose now, if that's the problem

[long rock]

I’ve got another 3 outlets in my room but I need extension to reach them

Dad says everything in the house is fine and I can’t mess with anything

[stoic island]

Outlets in the same room is prob going to be on the same circuit

Just plug it in elsewhere else in the house and see how it goes

If that does it, it's proof there's something wrong with power in your room, at least the socket you were using

[long rock]

I wonder if just switching to the bottom outlet would help

Cause my desk is plugged into one and my pc the other

[stoic island]

I don't think so, just taking the PC to a different room should be able to give you a different result

[long rock]

I wonder if the basement would work, it’s kinda dirty down there and we have a cat

[stoic island]

Its just the simplest way to test without having to check with wiring in your house afaik

[long rock]

Frick, I couldn’t bring my chair then because he would destroy it

[lyric thistle]

Just plug the computer in with peripherals in the kitchen or something

[long rock]

Would it possibly be my 25 dollar headset causing the issue?

[stoic island]

Possible, yes

[long rock]

That’s gotta be it ffs

[stoic island]

If you have something else you could test with, use that

[lyric thistle]

Do you have other headphones?

[stoic island]

Earbuds will work

[long rock]

Not now lol, my earbuds were causing the issue a lot more actually

This headset has only done it once vs like 2 or 3 times an hour

[stoic island]

Then still take the PC and check using the earbuds

[long rock]

Oh my god the reason I didn’t have sound was my headphone volume was turned down, I didn’t have to unplug them

I could have avoided the shirt that time

Short

🤬

[burnt spruce]

Hello is this a good psu Corsair CX750M 80Plus Bronze Fully Modular Black

[stoic island]

No, CX-M is low end and very commonly has coil whine

[burnt spruce]

CX-F is good?

Seasonic Focus 80Plus Gold GX ATX Full Modular 750W

This one ?

[lyric thistle]

There's a PSU tier list pinned in #cases-psu-and-cooling

[stoic island]

Cx-f is good, GX is good.

It's also pinned in this channel

[earnest olive]

man i'm pretty sure we've told you this like 8 times already

[lyric thistle]

O it is 😳

[burnt spruce]

Sorry thank youuu

[earnest olive]

looks like it hasn't been updated in a minute

last updated oct 30

still has msi a-gf as A tier

[stoic island]

Perhaps but I still think they moved a-gf from gold a to normal a

Had a convo with someone elsewhere, really have to think about how much hold up times really matter

Inaccurate pwr okay is real bad, it should be put into low priority at least for that, but the hold up times...

[earnest olive]

hold up times don't matter as much as pwr ok signal, bad pwr ok signal is potentially dangerous

personally had a 24-pin cable melt due to under voltage lol

[stoic island]

The thing is, the hold up time is much lower than ATX standard, but then again, still dunno how to approach how bad that is

It's like 10ms when standard is 17ms

[earnest olive]

i mean.. if anything having a low hold up time is probably better if you have a bad pwr ok signal lol

[stoic island]

Just don't really know how bad it is, because testing had pwr okay stop milliseconds before the power actually went out so

Or fell below atx standards on the Tom's hardware review

[earnest olive]

but i'm pretty uneducated about in depth psu stuff so idk

i would think bad pwr ok would drop it to at least B+

[stoic island]

I don't even know atm

I'm conflicted on what to think about it

[earnest olive]

😔

losing sleep over where msi a-gf belongs on tier list

[stoic island]

Indeed

[fossil cedar]

It's okay tho, bitfenix comes to save the day with formula/whisper m

[echo salmon]

Hello

[serene hedge]

is a windows 11 laptop with an 11th gen intel for less than $200 good?

[worn wave]

Which CPU

What specs all around?

[serene hedge]

11th gen intel core i5

@worn wave

[worn wave]

For 200 USD?

[serene hedge]

less

[stoic island]

It's good

[serene hedge]

considering i'm using a 7 year old laptop that has an intel pentium, this is SUPER good

[mossy venture]

That's a great price

[cyan spear]

Bruh

[mossy venture]

I haven't seen a 10th gen i3 laptop for that little

[cyan spear]

Thats an exceplent proce

Idk if this is a problem with all the inspirons or just my model but make sure the trackpad works properly

[serene hedge]

it's an i5

[mossy venture]

I know

[cyan spear]

Yeah thwyre just saying they dont find stuff thats slower for that low

[mossy venture]

I'm saying it's much better than anything else I've seen

[serene hedge]

i would upgrade the storage

256GB is not enough

it is, but i would want at least 500GB

[stoic island]

Even though it calls itself an i5, it's only 4c8t btw

Just Intel things

[little osprey]

https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-Supernova-Platinum-Warranty-220-P5-0750-X1/dp/B08QLXFLBW/ref=asc_df_B08QLXFLBW/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=563598683736&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=16257935720727070250&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9029673&hvtargid=pla-1455104531402&th=1 is this psu any good?

i need to know for b Stonks

[coarse coral]

if you're not overclocking sure, also depends on your components.

[little osprey]

ryzen 5 5600g and a 3060 ti hopfully

[coarse coral]

you'll be fine

[ripe wedge]

https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/ tier b low priority

should be fine

[little osprey]

whats a a teir evga in that pice range

[coarse coral]

its a budget build components with plat rated psu

[ripe wedge]

the only a tier psus from evga are: Supernova G6 (A), Supernova G2(L) / G3 / P2 / P6 / T2 (low priority units)

another psu I would recommend taking a look at would be the super flower leadex 3

[little osprey]

trying to get bstonks though

[ripe wedge]

they are the OEM of some EVGA psus and some other psus

[ripe wedge]

this one? at that point id just buy a brand new one

bstock are usually return/refurbished units

[little osprey]

no so i can get elite membership for bstonks

[ripe wedge]

o

at what price tho

[little osprey]

110$ max budget

@ripe wedge

[ripe wedge]

eh yeah

at that point just get new one

[little osprey]

thats what im doing

im getting a new psu

to replace my old one

and so i can get access to 30 series b stonks @ripe wedge

[kindred pawn]

@earnest olive i found out whenever i uninstall the driver it literally requests to install itself and does it anyway

it requests the installation and doesn't ask me it just does it

[serene hedge]

i just found a cheap 12th gen intel processor

[earnest olive]

yes that's the point

[serene hedge]

if you call $200 cheap, that is

[earnest olive]

stop trying to run hardware without a driver lol

it's only going to cause problems

[kindred pawn]

gotcha

[earnest olive]

you don't want your system to not know what half of your CPU does

[kindred pawn]

fax

[little osprey]

i ended up just getting a g5

[kindred pawn]

might just buy a whole new cpu

[bright dome]

https://deals.dell.com/en-us/productdetail/cztr

is this good?

[stoic island]

Its good.

[bright dome]

k

[errant fiber]

yes

i own one

[bright dome]

k, ty

[bright dome]

EVGA - NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti FTW3 ULTRA GAMING 12GB GDDR6X PCI Express 4.0 Graphics Card

is 1500.00 good for this one?

have a chance to get one put on hold for me

[south kite]

Normal price to pay

[bright dome]

k, so nothing special, just availability right

I'm trying to talk him into holding onto a 3090 24GB

what are the diff between the EVGA and NVIDIA?

is there a quality and/or compatibility diff?

there are so many diff models of the 3090/3080

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/avirel/saved/#view=NQMZcf right now have this system i'm gonna buy everything this weekend BUT i am changing out the monitor was wondering if waiting for the 3090 is worth it?

so many diff models from ASUS/MSI/NVIDIA EVGE WTH is the best option for the i7 I'm gonna build?

[viral ore]

who made this list for you?

[bright dome]

combonation of help

[viral ore]

was it Pato?

[bright dome]

yeah

[viral ore]

take his advice and stop asking for confirmation

[wide sparrow]

hmm

[viral ore]

its good

trust them

[potent portal]

We'd never recommend parts that aren't worth what they cost, or any bad parts for the most part unless ultra low budget or specific request

"I must have the H510 elite because reasons" lol

[viral ore]

in conclusion

the 3090 is not worth it

because we didnt suggest it

[potent portal]

Oh 100% not a single 3090 is worth the cost unless you're a miner

[viral ore]

unless ur getting it for like 1200

but doubt

[bright dome]

I can get it for MSRP

[viral ore]

go for a 6900xt for the same price

[potent portal]

Or 3080ti if you must have the best

Within a couple % of the 3090

In fact my 3080 ti outperforms my old 3090

[bright dome]

the only reason I ask now is because when we put together the parts list my budget was 2500.00 now my budget is 3500.00 and i have a chance to get either the 3080 or 3090 at MSRP

[viral ore]

3080

MSRP for that is 700

so

[bright dome]

cuz my daighter started dating a GM for best Buy and he can hold one for me

[viral ore]

totally up to you

as long as its under 1100 or so the 3080 is fine

[potent portal]

Mmm pretty sure they can get fired for holding that but if he wants to risk it...

[unreal nexus]

You can?

[potent portal]

Big time

[fossil cedar]

Already answered ^

[pearl mist]

Yh but is it a good build

I’ll delete

[fossil cedar]

It's okay

But the one i did will allow you to have better gpu

[pearl mist]

How much fps

[frank stirrup]

there will be fps yes

[pearl mist]

Lmao

[fossil cedar]

Depends on the game, resolution and detail settings like i mentioned before

[pearl mist]

Ok tysm

[fossil cedar]

You're welcome

[jagged hill]

do my fightstick and upcoming egpu cassette look cool, even if low end specs?

[fossil cedar]

Oh nice did you build that yourself?

[jagged hill]

yes

[fossil cedar]

Pretty cool

[jagged hill]

custom plexiglass top, lumber and plywood sides

thank

i made the egpu frame too

and am going to turn a lower graphics card into a rom cartridge-like shape

[fossil cedar]

Fair play to ya

[jagged hill]

only because even a gt 1030 could not fit natively

i might not even need to make the full io shield

i can make the pcie x16 to usb adapter look like a cartridge slot

[fossil cedar]

I mean all io shields do is block dust but why would you need one? The gpu basically has a built in one

[jagged hill]

no for the board

i just block the whole wooden panel off

and only drill a hole for the dc and aux jacks

[fossil cedar]

Oh right

[jagged hill]

problem is that this nuc only has four visible usb ports

there are supposedly two more hidden but not sure

gotta check the bios

only waiting for dc + aux extenders and a sata power to molex picoblade cable

i have the sata data cable

but old formats are used here

probably gonna install win10 ame or debian

[feral bobcat]

hi

what HW review sites are reliable

[fossil cedar]

Techpowerup
Anandtech
Gamers Nexus

[feral bobcat]

thank you so much

[feral bobcat]

just check this site

fakespot.com

[obsidian wigeon]

Tom's Hardware is great for SSDs too

[feral bobcat]

fake site that detects fake amazon reviews!

[fossil cedar]

User reviews 99% off the time mean nothing

[feral bobcat]

thanks

[fossil cedar]

No problem

[stoic island]

Techspot hothardware guru3d

[limber oyster]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/F3ysK3

Which would y'all chose?

[fossil cedar]

No m.2 slot on your board?

[limber oyster]

I already have dual 1tb gen 4s

But they're pretty much full and I want to replace my HDD

[fossil cedar]

What motherboard do you have?

[limber oyster]

X570 tuff wifi

[fossil cedar]

Ahh okay sata it is

@limber oyster
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Mtprxr/western-digital-0-25-2000000rpm-internal-hard-drive-wds200t2b0a

[limber oyster]

Why ping me?

I'm right here lmao

[fossil cedar]

Incase you went away lol

[limber oyster]

Lol

What's the difference between the WD and the other two?

[fossil cedar]

Wd blue and mx500 are good, cx2 is not and WD blue is cheaper

[limber oyster]

Ok

Does it come with the cache?

Cause ik PCPartPicker doesn't always list if there's cache or how much if there is

[fossil cedar]

I believe it does

Dramless doesn't matter a huge amount btw

[limber oyster]

Really?

Wouldn't it be faster?

[fossil cedar]

Honestly just depends

[feral bobcat]

sorry for asking twice

[limber oyster]

On?

[fossil cedar]

If it has HMB, and the other parts

[limber oyster]

Ahh

No idea what that means 😅

[feral bobcat]

guys

what do you think about this site

https://us.testseek.com/

[fossil cedar]

Looks useless

[feral bobcat]

why

[feral bobcat]

https://us.testseek.com/computers/graphic-cards/pci-express/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3090-24gb-gddr6x-pcie-p-4832e7f2-f0a2-48ec-d922-ebbbe2eb918c.html

[fossil cedar]

Lazy, very little products and looks like they don't know much

[feral bobcat]

what do you mean little products?

i checked products and find 90% of the reviews on that site

[fossil cedar]

Very little amount of products

The only new ish intel cpu is 12900k

[feral bobcat]

no

click on 36 months and you can see lots of new products

like this

https://us.testseek.com/computers/displays/monitors/lcd-monitors-c-138.html?&spp=-1&sy=36&

305 pages of products on just 3 years

[feral bobcat]

so...

[feral bobcat]

https://us.testseek.com/computers/cooling/watercooling-c-271.html?&spp=-1&sy=36&

https://us.testseek.com/computers/cpus/amd-c-145.html?&spp=-1&sy=36&

[stoic island]

Just for looking at monitors, they don't go in depth enough, @feral bobcat , rtings is what I'd go to for monitor reviews
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/gigabyte/m27q

[feral bobcat]

testseek is just exactly like metacritic and opencritic

[stoic island]

And well, the issue with just taking excerpts is that it really doesn't tell you enough

[feral bobcat]

https://us.testseek.com/computers/displays/monitors/lcd-monitors/gigabyte-m27q-p-155f39e5-cdaf-d59b-fba7-38b106017be7.html

[stoic island]

For these things, testseek has 0 useful info for us, we'd rather just go to the original source, and go straight to our preferred source

[stoic island]

But where on the page does it give an actual number for pixel response time or color accuracy or gamut or brightness or anything we'd care about?

The issue with brief summaries is that sure, "excellent monitor with good color" is a decent overview, but problems come in when we're trying to compare things

There's just no reason imo to go for testseek when we can get the in depth data we want that testseek doesn't provide from reviewers we like

[feral bobcat]

i just some all reviews manually

[stoic island]

Also, like, why the hell are their game reviews on a page about 3090 reviews?

"outriders launched with a lot of problems...."

That's a game

Hitman 3 is a game

Whatever game the third review is on about

[feral bobcat]

sort by scores

i just sum all of the scores manually for the ratings by checking the sites

[feral bobcat]

exactly not that accurate

sometimes they add reviews by comparing games of techpowerup and duplicate the reviews

[stoic island]

Uh, that's not just inaccurate, that's just flat out wrong topic

[stoic island]

Ngl that site seems lazy to me, scrape the web, slap in anything with those keywords, and done.

[serene hedge]

i want a red and black AIO cooler so that it will match the case

[stoic island]

And also, they're not the only people who are doing that, TPU has had a review database for like 20 years now

[feral bobcat]

exactly

[stoic island]

Might have better luck with smth like liquid freezer ii and swap the fans for smth like red bionix fans? Or just rgb and do red rgb

[stoic island]

Then why not just use this, more data, actually grouped sensibly
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviewdb/

[serene hedge]

like, my case will be red and black

gpu will be red and black

[fossil cedar]

Ohhh it has pages, not clear honestly didn't even see them i stand by the fact it is a lazy website

[stoic island]

Red radiator will be hard to find, so I'm saying black radiator, and have fans like this

[feral bobcat]

exactly

[stoic island]

So we're in agreement it's a lazy website with no use on its own?

[feral bobcat]

they add every review in the world for anything

[fossil cedar]

But i mean the og sites have this usually anyway especially toms and rtings

[stoic island]

Yea like every site has a conclusion section for every review

Soo

[fossil cedar]

That's not really much use just google xxxxxx review

[feral bobcat]

they are just metacritic of every product available on the net

[stoic island]

It's like copying the idea of the tpu review database and not making it useful

[feral bobcat]

testseek = review aggregator

[stoic island]

I mean, metacritic is kinda not good sooo

[stoic island]

So is this
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviewdb/

But really, a metacritic score system doesn't work for PC hardware, Moore's law and all

[feral bobcat]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Testseek

[feral bobcat]

you can just search the product you want, and go to the review site that you trust

[stoic island]

TPU was established in 2004 at the latest

[stoic island]

So why use testseek instead of TPU's database that is better sorted, or just Google?

[feral bobcat]

TPU is not a review aggergator

[feral bobcat]

use techspot, they aggerate reviews better

https://www.techspot.com/products/motherboards/msi-b450-tomahawk.186803/

[stoic island]

We explained why what testseek does is not useful for data, and that data can be better found from individual reviews, at which point testseek is nothing more than a database, which TPU had already done

[feral bobcat]

exactly

[stoic island]

Okay, we're in agreement that testseek is useless then

[serene hedge]

i have two questions

[stoic island]

Go ahead

[serene hedge]

is it safe to change the color on a gpu? ex. paint it

secondly, is the msi 1050 ti worse or better than the EVGA 1650

[mossy venture]

theres a certain way to paint it i believe

and certain paint to use?

[mossy venture]

1650 is better

[fossil cedar]

As long as you dismantle the gpu and only paint the shroud/backplate yeah, i think car paint is preferred

[mossy venture]

model doesn't really matter (in perf comparison), 1650 is just better

[fossil cedar]

1650 is a bit better

[serene hedge]

how about the top of the gpu, the fans and stuff?

after taking it off, ofc

[mossy venture]

No clue

[quasi turret]

Could anyone help me with the wiring of 9 sl120 fans? 3 for Galahad 360 and 6 for case

It’s really just where would I put the controller fan header into any fan header or put it on the cpu fan header

[humble hearth]

SEASONIC Focus PX 850 850W 80 Plus Platinum vs Corsair RM850x 80 PLUS Gold what should i buy?

[burnt spruce]

Are all of these good?

[fossil cedar]

Pretty good ye

[gritty rover]

Yeths

[mortal garnet]

are arctic fans still the go to for budget fans

[stoic island]

yas

[mortal garnet]

havent looked into pc parts in a while

ok

think ima swap back to itx

[burnt spruce]

Thank you guys

[shrewd nova]

could anyone help me to fairly price my pc?

thought about selling it since the prices have gone up

[fossil cedar]

Sure, pop the specs into a pc part picker list

[shrewd nova]

i7 2600, 8gb ddr3 1600mhz, Asus PH-GTX1050ti 4gb OC, 500gb HDD

Fujitsu case

has DVD player

or CD

[fossil cedar]

Uhhh like 400 probs

[shrewd nova]

MB was uhh Fujitsu A-something

D2990-A2

in euros tho

[serene hedge]

so should i just get a black one and buy red and black fans?

[stoic island]

That's my suggestion because I can't remember any red radiators

[potent portal]

Paint is a thing

[desert gulch]

Yeah but painting a rad

[potent portal]

Just don't paint the fins

[desert gulch]

Gonna be very difficult to actually get red on there without ruining it's effectiveness

[stoic island]

yea

[desert gulch]

Yeah red fans probably best option

[stoic island]

Ig you could get a paint brush and paint around the edge maybe

Spray painting or hydrodipping or anything like that would get paint everywhere

[potent portal]

That's what I meant, just the sides not the fins

[stoic island]

First thing I think of for painting was just spray painting it but yea

[potent portal]

Spray paint could work if you put painter's tape over the fins or something

[upper tusk]

What is 3070 msrp

[stoic island]

500$

Aib models nowadays tend to start at 700$ though

[upper tusk]

3070 is that geared for 1440p gaming or 4k

[mossy venture]

i wouldnt recommend it for 4k, but its possible

keep in mind a high refresh rate 4k monitor is atleast 600$

[upper tusk]

I got a 4k144 hdmi 2.1 monitor last year

[mossy venture]

id aim for a 3080

[upper tusk]

I will wait til mid year they say gpu market will stablize then

[mossy venture]

its possible, but not super likely

id say late 2022 is more likely but still not highly

6800xt also an option

[upper tusk]

My cpu probably needs to be replaced

[mossy venture]

what cpu

cpu doesnt matter as much for 4k

[upper tusk]

I5 3.4ghz quad core

[potent portal]

Late 22 is when the new plants are scheduled to come online. It can take up to 6 months after that to be felt in the market.

[stoic island]

Which exact cpu though

[upper tusk]

@mossy venture i could only do 720 to 900p on my current setup

I5-4670k

[mossy venture]

yeah def needs a replacement

12400f +b660 good for 3080 at 4k if you dont want to spend much

[stoic island]

12600k+z690 also usually possible when considering getting a 3080

[mossy venture]

an extra 200$ tho

[upper tusk]

As long as i could do 1080p60 at high or ultra im happy. I got a series x for all other games except for ps pc ports or pc only games

[mossy venture]

depends on total budget

[stoic island]

Ye but possible

[mossy venture]

but you have a 4k monitor, do you have a 1080p one?

and even so youd need a cpu upgrade for anything even close to semi recent

3060 ti/3070 are good for 1080p/1440p at high and ultra

[upper tusk]

I have bad eyes and still cant tell the difference between 4k and 1080

[mossy venture]

3080 great for 1440p high

[mossy venture]

but you still have a 4k monitor

youd have to sell it or buy a new one

which is fine, just saying

[upper tusk]

My pc setup is at 4k60 i setup games to play at 720p or 900p

[zinc ermine]

Asking for 2.2k cad

Ive kinda given up on building a pc myself and havent looked into prebuilt options

[desert gulch]

Oh you're selling?

If you are, unfortunately we can't have that in the server since we can't really do that stuff

Try selling on selling sites maybe tho

Like Mercari and craigslist and OfferUp and FB marketplace, that kinda thing

[zinc ermine]

No im buying

Im just looking for opinions

[desert gulch]

Ohhhh ok

[viral ember]

How do you know if you need to spend 750.00 or 5,000.00 or somewhere in between that for a gaming pc when switching from console? This an extreme nutshelled question but I didn't want anyone reading a book lol.

[zinc ermine]

it all depends on your needs

and your standards

if youre gonna stream you'll probably went something beefy

[desert gulch]

nah nvenc will stream ez

[viral ember]

Thank you very much in advance

[desert gulch]

dont need anything crazy

[zinc ermine]

but then again you can still stream on budget builds

[potent portal]

If you're used to a console you probably don't need super good parts

[desert gulch]

what country do you live in?

[viral ember]

No streaming just want to play games like fallout or gta or the likes in good quality. Maybe some pvp stuff. I don't care about looks but I do care about quality. Especially with the parts that will allow it to last into the future and run in a way that's best for the computer not the game. If that helps. Also I live in Arizona

I mean I do care about it's gaming quality but I figure that would come if I allow the machine to run at what's best for it.

Maybe some upgradeability but that would be far in the future. My last computer was for the family (no gaming really) school and business. It lasted 6 yrs almost 7. My son started gaming on it during covid and it started shutting down with heat errors a few months into that

Sorry for so much posting there's just so much and it's so easy to get overwhelmed

[potent portal]

Open box https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali497-master/p/N82E16883360092R

New https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali564/p/N82E16883360194

Those will more than handle games like fallout 4 max settings 1080p

[ebon lark]

Hi guys, I'm new here! I just built a PC. It worked for a couple of seconds but then turns off and restarts again. Can you guys help me. Would really appreciate it.

[earnest olive]

does it give you any error message when it shuts off

or just shuts off

[ebon lark]

It just shuts off :/

[potent portal]

Bios up to date?

[zinc ermine]

Any led indicators on the motherboard?

[fossil cedar]

Honestly 5k is too much even for a top of the line pc but 750 -800 is a decent starting price and 3.5-4k would probably be the max obviously performance will depend on how much you're wil to pay to an extent but nvenc on Nvidia gpu's and amd's encoder on the rx 6600 and up mean you don't really need an expensive pc to game and stresm

[potent portal]

There's a point where you're spending a lot less on performance and a lot more on looks/nice-to-haves yeah

I find that point to be around 2.5k

[fossil cedar]

The price is okay
But I'd consider this +100$ 1tb ssd or something or try talk them down to around the 2.1k mark imo

[viral ember]

@potent portal @fossil cedar thank you. I really appreciate the input. I figured 5k had to be along the line of professional desktops. But I figured 800 might be cutting corners on important stuff like quality fans or power supply. I don't know about those kind of things in this industry. In construction you can't cut corners in those areas and expect things to last. 2k to 3k is what my wife and son said price would be. The IT guys at work said things should be lowering in price here soon but that was just casual conversation. I don't ask about personal IT stuff there.

[fossil cedar]

You're welcome, 2-3k is like a high end stuff so ~800 is reasonable ye

[viral ember]

Awesome

[limber oyster]

looking for a pc to run twitch on, and just twitch.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CN9Hxs

i already have these parts, though motherboard was used so its quality is iffy

[fossil cedar]

Do you mean just play twitch streams or actually stream?

[limber oyster]

running the stream

i want a second system thats dedicated to running and controlling the stream

[fossil cedar]

Useless

[limber oyster]

really?

[fossil cedar]

Ye

Actually is more effort than worth

[limber oyster]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CN9Hxs

i have these on hand

already assembled

just need cpu/psu

[fossil cedar]

I see that but whats your main rig?

[limber oyster]

i have a pic, gonna post to #build-pics

There

[fossil cedar]

I see

Yeah no point spending more money

Just use what you have, sell the other parts

[limber oyster]

its just twitch wants me to pause and minimize my game to go to twitch in order to use the chat box

hard to do a stream when you have to minimize your game

[fossil cedar]

I see

I mean you can run Windowed if you don't mind

[limber oyster]

would still need to pause game to switch windows

[fossil cedar]

Suppose

[limber oyster]

i have a second monitor too.

so just plug second system into second monitor

or is there an easier way that i just dont know about

[fossil cedar]

You're gonna have to get a 5600g, as 3000g processors aren't compatible with b550

Can you return the board?

[limber oyster]

partpicker says theyre compatible

[fossil cedar]

You'd be better off with like a 10100 or something that way you don't gotta waste the money

[fossil cedar]

"compatible" as in same socket

[limber oyster]

just needs bios update

alos, werent b550s released BEFORE 5000 proccessors?

[fossil cedar]

Yes, works with 3000 cpus not 3000 apus

[limber oyster]

ahh

what about a b450?

[fossil cedar]

3000 apus are Ryzen 2000 cpus woth integrated graphics

[limber oyster]

just a cheap one?

[fossil cedar]

But you already have a b550 ?

Can you return it ?

[limber oyster]

i bought second hand

[fossil cedar]

I mean i guess your best choice is a 5600g

[limber oyster]

i went to the pcpartpicker discord, but they started cracking jokes about "american consumerism at its best" and made me a high end build with 64GB ram, a 6900xt gpu...

[limber oyster]

ok

[fossil cedar]

This would be cheaper tbf
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3Kyxvf

But 5600g is better

[limber oyster]

i am running a gen 4 nvme so..

[fossil cedar]

But doesn't actually matter tbh if it's just office pc?

That's fine

[limber oyster]

my point

[fossil cedar]

Nvme is backwards compatible

[limber oyster]

why do i need 64GB ram, 6900xt, etc for a "office pc"

[fossil cedar]

Idk they probs trolls

Never been in that server

[limber oyster]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JB9Hxs

thats the list they made me, except they added a 6900xt and 64gb ram

[fossil cedar]

Whoever sent you that is a troll

[limber oyster]

kinda figured

but yeah, i was thinking 5600G

[burnt spruce]

Hello how to fix if the Harddrive doesn't show up in Windows but I can see it in bios . I already updated the driver also in device manager.

[stoic island]

Initialize it in disk manager

[burnt spruce]

how to initialize it ?

[potent portal]

Looks initialized already, just need to right click the unallocated space and do new simple volume

[burnt spruce]

Already fixed . Thank you so much!!

Is it okay to ask how to make the downloaded applications go to the HDD so I just use the SSD for booting?

[potent portal]

You'll just tell each program to install to D:/Programs or something

Steam you can go into settings, make a new library, and move games

[burnt spruce]

Ah noted thank you so much !!

[limber oyster]

@potent portal is Asus tuff x570 wifi compatible with 7 5700g?

[fossil cedar]

ye

[limber oyster]

Sweet

Though I can't afford it while it's on sale sadly

[fossil cedar]

you already have a b550 why would you get an x570?

[limber oyster]

Is there any performance deference between it and the 5800x?

[fossil cedar]

yes

5800x is way better

[limber oyster]

Ahhh

Because the quality of the board is iffy

Though I might get like a i3 intel

Intel has more micro-atx boards available

[fossil cedar]

oh right for your 2nd pc?

its barely even worth your while going 5600g

also 5800x has no i gpu

[limber oyster]

Fair

Well I was gonna put the 3700x in the secondary and use a cheap GPU

Ik a buddy getting rid of his 1660 as he won the Newegg raffle

But idk...

I'm probably just gonna sell the b550 and go intel

[fossil cedar]

you would be hardcore spending unnecessary money

[limber oyster]

Fair

[torpid nest]

then i'm mega hardcore

[fossil cedar]

Meant in their case

[torpid nest]

i know
i am trying to game on an AMD EPYC 7543

x2