building-and-recc-chat

[potent portal]

200x200x25mm

Each fan is a 200mm square, with 25mm in depth

[strong raft]

Cool. raid 5 like 0+1? ah, I'll google. Indeed, I only really used a single drive for a long time. Currently (pic) , the old Win 7 hdd is maybe 100GB of various stuff besides it's steam copy.

[potent portal]

Yeah, raid 5 has the speed of 0 and some of the redundancy from 1

The third drive is used as a parity drive for error checking, I had issues with old data corrupting previously and lost 3 years of taxes

Raid 10 is a true combo of 1 and 0, using 4 drives

[strong raft]

interesting, i see these 1st pics showing 4 drives. that'll be some good reading. Ah, i might recall this a bit. whether 2 drives in raid 1 or your setup, at least 1 drive is redundancy. Right, raid 10 also. All these options, pretty neat.

[potent portal]

Yeah, most people don't need to worry about raid volumes but they're fun and challenging to work with. Building a NAS is a project I'm doing down the line, after a custom loop.

[flint sapphire]

Raid 0 everything and live on the edge of failure and extreme speed

[potent portal]

Raid 0, 10 drives, no backups

YOLO

[flint sapphire]

I have my bulk storage in raid 0

[strong raft]

The days of the WD velociraptor. 10 of those in raid 0 huh.

[potent portal]

Nah, get some of the 4x4 M.2 adapters so you can use PCIe x16 slots with 4 drives each

I'm pretty sure crystal disk mark would bug out from the sheer speed

[flint sapphire]

Instead of doing that just buy bulk sata ssd’s and raid 0 em

[strong raft]

raid/nas is mostly some less hassle instead of personally copying stuff around? Hmm, with all the pcie slots, I actuallly would like nvme drives to slot in there also. I mean I'd like to do that, I know they're a thing.

[potent portal]

I hate sata add in cards with a fiery passion

[flint sapphire]

Hang them off a chain sata power thing just outside the panel of your case

[potent portal]

You can do a lot more with a nas, like setting it up so you can access your files from across the planet and making the files accessible to others, even when your pc is off

[flint sapphire]

In all honesty @potent portal is completely correct and I’m just messing around 👀

[strong raft]

For sure, raid itself is not crazy/complicated while a nas is .... idk how to phrase, but I've seen nas boxes. they're "smarter", or can be

[flint sapphire]

Honestly it’s simpler especially with all the new services companies offer. Nas storage isn’t that bad from what I understand

[potent portal]

Modern nas boxes can be pretty intelligent yeah. There's some you can slap drives into and it'll ask simple questions about your storage habits and needs, and format the drives and create arrays automatically.

Then when you add more drives later they just auto add to the array

[strong raft]

i recall reading in the past maybe you have a certain setup and over time a nas or w/e it was would automatically backup files to extra drives in various ways. The cool thing is all the slots. yeah, drives can be removed/replaced quickly

[potent portal]

There's some that have cloud services included at no extra charge. I saw one with 10tb cloud backup for free, not sure if that offer is still good though.

[strong raft]

That'd be quite a bit of cloud storage for sure

[potent portal]

By contrast, google drive only offers 15gb for free

Even dropbox has a lower limit than they used to

They send me emails every day telling me to delete data or I can't backup more
Well yeah, I had space before you removed it

[strong raft]

Yeah, they gotta charge if we use too much of that storage that's actually on a certain drive somewhere across the country.

[flint sapphire]

Oh god speaking of rising cloud storage prices… this is totally off topic but have you seen the like ring knockoffs that save your 1080p recordings for free? Super sketchy.

[potent portal]

Well, it being the cloud means it's likely scattered across multiple drives and locations

I'd buy one of those cameras just to run a packet trace and see where they send it, probably china

[flint sapphire]

My brother and I talk about it whenever we’re being recorded at my moms place

[potent portal]

It's late. I should get to sleep, and tell my google tv goodnight also so my fbi agent feels loved

[flint sapphire]

Lol gn

[strong raft]

haha, g'N. For a min I'm trying to figure out steam w/ the game drive hooked up. I guess I need to move or re-name a certain folder.

[frank stirrup]

LMFAO good night falcie

[potent portal]

Add a steam library, it's in settings
I'm going to sleep for real now

[strong raft]

i did. no biggie. See ya. Perhaps someone else will give input. Dang , it is pretty late though I noticed.

[lyric thistle]

[stoic island]

Wat

[fossil cedar]

[frank stirrup]

@bitter mason build looking nice!

[bitter mason]

sucks I had to remove that piece but I appreciate you saying

[frank stirrup]

Which piece btw?

[fossil cedar]

Believe they're on about the cable hider thing on the side in the 5000d

[frank stirrup]

Ah

[bitter mason]

cable hider on the bottom

[fossil cedar]

Ahhhhh

[bitter mason]

check #build-pics

[frank stirrup]

I see it

[bitter mason]

ya fat ass LF rad make it not fit

it would fit with 15mm fans but I don't really wanna spend anymore money on it since (I hope) it won't be mine sometime in the not so distant future

& I doubt if I invest in more fans I'll recoup those costs

all those fans that are in there I had in my other build for a few months then upgraded

[fossil cedar]

@bitter mason can you send a pic of the thing you took out? Might be able to push it up against the shroud the other way?

[autumn wolf]

he wouldnt be able to due to the length of the psu shroud

[bitter mason]

Excuse my messy perpetual pc project table lol

[autumn wolf]

that part is meant for thin rads, anything more chonky and it doesnt work unless you want to do some cuts

[bitter mason]

Here is my collection of fans without a home

[autumn wolf]

damn, didnt know you were famous

you got a lot of fans

https://tenor.com/view/knee-slap-spongebob-laugh-laughing-gif-15767803

[bitter mason]

yes [insert onlyfans.com joke]

[autumn wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-nervous-sweating-concerned-monkas-gif-15154684

[bitter mason]

the land of misfit fans

like aside from the 200mms they're just a random assortment of fans without a home

well the 3x CM silver ones could go somewhere but eh

[shrewd sparrow]

anyway to find out what fans the lian li lancool 205 comes with?

[bitter mason]

um lian li website?

amazon questions say it includes 2 120mm fans

trying to figure out which ones

they are not argb

the mesh version includes 3 rgb fans

[fossil cedar]

Would you be able to slide that in to make a makeshift shroud closing?

[bitter mason]

hmm I'm not sure tbh.

I can't force it to the side of the fan

& I can't force the fan back enough to put it where it goes

I got really close by taking out the screw on the bottom left fan but it's still millimeters away from getting in there

[fossil cedar]

Damm it wouldn't fit it out put the bottom bit in first?

[bitter mason]

sadly, no

I tried just about everything

wait

waaaait

wait hecking wait

why didn't I think of this?

okay you see how the hoses for the AIO are at the top?

that area has no fans

much thinner

hoses down might fit

[forest nexus]

Hi, i have been wanting to build a new pc for a while now but as getting a gpu for a reasonable price is pretty impossible I have decided to just upgrade what I have right now. Im currently running a Rx 5700 with a 3600x and corsair DDR4 300mhz in some random case form amazon. What should I upgrade first?

[frank stirrup]

Ram

And then maybe the case

[forest nexus]

yeah thats pretty much what I thought, what RAM do you suggest?

[frank stirrup]

Crucial ballistic 3600c16 for 16 gb ram

Gskill 3600 c16 for 32 gb

[forest nexus]

alright

What about a cooler?

im currently still running the stock one

[frank stirrup]

Arctic freezer 280mm or 360mm depending what ur case can do

If you wanna future proof

[forest nexus]

I kinda want to go itx

[frank stirrup]

Gammax 400v2 or se224xt or vetroo V5 for budget

[forest nexus]

like the cooler master nr200

[frank stirrup]

And Frost spirit 140 for mid

[forest nexus]

ok

[fossil cedar]

That's gonna be pricey fyi, new case, new mobo, new psu, only some coolers will fit

[forest nexus]

true

[mossy kernel]

I need to upgrade my gpu im not sure what’s something good enough that isn’t very expensive I currently have the rx560 gonna be playing modern fps games need something to keep up only looking for 1080p 120+ fps

[fossil cedar]

What's your current specs, and whats your budget?

[mossy kernel]

Have i5-12600k, ddr4 3600 cl16 16 gb, 650 psu I’m not looking to spend a crazy amount but something that will work and can keep up

[fossil cedar]

What 650w psu and gonna need a number that is a very different meaning to everyone

[mossy kernel]

Corsair cx650 80+ bronze

[fossil cedar]

Okay, decent psu, but still gonna need a number

[mossy kernel]

I don’t really wanna go over $650 trying to keep it budget

[fossil cedar]

6600xt/3060/3060 ti/6700xt/3070/6800/3070 ti/6800

[mossy kernel]

I’ve seen 3060 and they was like 800 never seen any of those being close to 600 I haven’t really looked at any rx 6000 series

[fossil cedar]

https://github.com/NeweggTechie/Graphics-cards/wiki/GPU-Buying-guide

[mossy kernel]

I’m in the US and I don’t have any micro centers even close to me and our Best Buy got destroyed by a storm so just gotta look online and anytime something drops I’m at work lol it sucks

[fossil cedar]

It has a few online options on there too

[cosmic wraith]

What is the best pc under 100 usd

[fossil cedar]

Uhhhh

Depends what you can find 2nd hand

[strong raft]

https://tenor.com/view/jizz-in-my-pants-andy-samberg-lonely-island-gif-13159464

[strong raft]

3060 should not be $800, that's my worthless opinion for the morning. 😅👍 ray tracing isn't all that common in most games, so a 20 series is viable too. Of course new cards are sparse these days. Mining needs to bust already for a bit more supply.

[mossy kernel]

I just don’t wanna get something so old that I have to upgrade in a year or less and doesn’t seem like the higher levels of the 20 series are much different in price than the 3060

[potent portal]

3060 falls somewhere around 2070 and 2070 super in performance

3060ti is closer to 2080 super

[strong raft]

1080 Ti still stomps (perf/watt just lower), Nvidia drivers still support 600 series, lol. 2080/Super/Ti are viable as well, if we find a decent sale. Seems it's mostly about spending a certain amount & getting enough performance to last a while. 40 series won't be cheap. I wish I got a 1080 ti, but I'm happy. Switching up to 20/30 series would be good though w/o spending $200+ on top of my 1080.

[little osprey]

[kindred pawn]

bro my pc still feels like it has input delay or vsync on

does bottlenecking cause this maybe?

[abstract ridge]

vsync supposed to make it smoother

[kindred pawn]

it feels kinda delayed

[abstract ridge]

maybe its like a jelly effect thing im not sure
It happens to fh5 on my tv

[kindred pawn]

but it makes no sense

this is a newly built pc

[still roost]

Donell#7565 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[kindred pawn]

my old pc feels even smoother than this

when it reached 60 fps ofc

[abstract ridge]

hmm
you sure its running at the right refresh rate

[kindred pawn]

60 hz

just like usual

[dense sparrow]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/4QXyDc

Good pc right? Ping me

[errant fiber]

best pc for under $100 plis i saved for so long guys Please i need a monitor mouse Keyboard and the Big tower thing in the budget plis i want to ply fortnite with my cousins

[fossil cedar]

I'd do this https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/DnXRfP lian li Galahad is also a good choice if you want it for matching fans/prefer the look

[desert gulch]

Does their board have a heatsink?

P5 runs pretty hot

[fossil cedar]

It do

[desert gulch]

Good

[little osprey]

Can anyone tell me if these pc parts are compatible and can run games well

ASUS ROG Crosshair VIII Dark Hero AM4 AMD X570S SATA 6Gb/s ATX AMD Motherboard. AMD Ryzen 7 5800X - Ryzen 7 5000 Series Vermeer. Corsair vengeance rgb pro 64 gb. GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 3060 GAMING OC 12G. CORSAIR RMx Series (2021). SAMSUNG 980 PRO M.2 2280 1TB. CORSAIR iCUE H150i ELITE CAPELLIX Liquid CPU. Windows 10 pro

[mossy venture]

x570s tend to not be worth it

what features on it are you looking to utilize

64gb also seems to be very overkill for a 3060 build, as well as a 5800x being overkill for a 3060 unless youre doing cpu intense things

or workstation things that require a lot of ram

980 pro is also overpriced

[little osprey]

I mean I just tend to play valorant and apex I just want the best for gaming

[mossy venture]

i would go with lian li galahad or artic freezer ii instead of that aio

[mossy venture]

i think youre aiming a bit high on the parts list on prices for things you wont see a benefit from

whats your budget?

[little osprey]

Any amount could you possibly suggest me some good parts for cheaper.

[mossy venture]

im not the best at parts lists, @frank stirrup or @fossil cedar would make a better list than me but i think they are both asleep

i can try to make one

this is the best i can do without someone else looking at it, im not sure on a good choice for the mobo or psu, id reccomend waiting for someone else to give their opinion on them. As for gpu, any 30 series/20 series you can find for a good price, im guessing you know about the gpu shortage

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9MNzmk

also b550s tend to be better priced and have better vrms than x570s

x570s only good if youi need the extra pcie lanes and nvme slots

[desert gulch]

change out atleast ssd

and why a 360 for a 5600x

[mossy venture]

oh true i forgot i switched it to a 5600x instead of a 5800x

sorry, im tired

[desert gulch]

also p400a is like 20 bucks cheaper

and spatium is still on sale

[mossy venture]

spatium?

[desert gulch]

ssd

m470

[little osprey]

Alright thank you

[desert gulch]

yeah it wont link to newegg for some reason

[mossy venture]

ah

[desert gulch]

so just add it in as a custom part

its only $75 after rebate on wegg

which is unreal for an A tier gen 4 1tb

[mossy venture]

i dont make parts lists often

wow i cant type

so idrk how to add a custom part

[little osprey]

se224xt enough for 12600k? or should i go for scythe fuma 2

se224xt more budget friendly but idk if its gonna do the job

[desert gulch]

meh id say go for fuma 2 atleast

or just wait for a b660 12400f

[abstract ridge]

h115i

its like the best cooler

what about the elite cappelix one

[desert gulch]

nah the lf2 is wayyyyyyyyyyyy better

[abstract ridge]

oh yea i forgot
i saw the reviews and i think the hyper 212 is the best cooler

[uncut pelican]

Best Nas hdd for under 130?

[desert gulch]

so youre just trolling?

[uncut pelican]

-_-

[harsh tinsel]

6700xt a good card?

[little osprey]

it used to be a few years ago, from a value perspective

a lot of better, and in some cases cheaper alternatives have come out since then

se-224xt moment

[abstract ridge]

ah ok

[obsidian wigeon]

best cooler, air wise is the nh-d15

if we take value outta consideration

[little osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/lifehack-hose-spray-fan-gif-14031595

this is the best cooler ^

[frank stirrup]

Drp4 beats it

Slightly

Theres another cooler thats better but i dont remember it

@stoic island what was the cooler u had named?

The one built for perf and not looks

[little osprey]

@frank stirrup can you build me a pc that’s at least around 2k

[frank stirrup]

Like a parts list?

Also gimme the top limit of what u wanna spend

At least around is a lil too vague

[little osprey]

2500 yes a parts list

Also I want a water cooled to

[frank stirrup]

You live in the US?

[desert gulch]

You mean like a ma624?

[frank stirrup]

Probably

I forgor 💀

[desert gulch]

There's also da3

But it isn't that ugly so prolly not

[little osprey]

Yes I do @frank stirrup

[flint sapphire]

Nhd15 is the only other air cooler I accept

[dense sparrow]

Galahad Is good for perf as well, and why crucial? Sn750 is good tho
Why the TXM Psu? Isn’t RMx ok?

[frank stirrup]

Galahad isnt as good as arctic freezer on amd cpus because of arctic freezers offset mount on amd

Sn750 is good but crucial p5 is very good too

And the p5 is a lot cheaper

RMx is ok but tmx is also very good for cheaper

[fossil cedar]

What dumb cat said

[dense sparrow]

Oh, so I get the artic freezer II 240?

[frank stirrup]

Or the artic freezer II 280

[dense sparrow]

Perf isn’t that much diff, the price is like 40 pound doff

So 240

[frank stirrup]

Ud be surprised

But yeah 40 pounds is a lot more

[fossil cedar]

Not 40£ worth

But definitely a noticeable diff

[stoic island]

Grand macho?

[frank stirrup]

Ah yep thats the one

[obsidian wigeon]

le grand macho

[cursive wharf]

Also CNPS20X, but that rarely nicely priced

[fossil cedar]

Yes, about the perf of a 3060 ti

[dense sparrow]

I meant £40 diff

I’ll just get 240

[fossil cedar]

Yeah just get the 240

[dense sparrow]

Yup

What happen if I get the lian li gallahad tho

i seen most ppl use that on amd cpu

@fossil cedar

[fossil cedar]

Slightly worse temps, Galahad is still good but arctic is the best for amd cpus

[dense sparrow]

I see, what’s bad on Galahad ?

[stoic island]

Nothing is bad

Arctic LF2 just has a offset mount that performs a bit better

[potent portal]

Plus arctic has quieter fans

[shrewd fjord]

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Everlast05/saved/QQJshM

How is this

[covert vapor]

Get Vetroo v5, it is about $8 dollars than that 212 for similar performance

[shrewd fjord]

I dont really want RGB though

Will the one I have work fine

[covert vapor]

I mean, sure, the 212s are just overpriced. You can get the SE-224-XT, that is also $8 dollars cheaper and doesn't have rgb

Also, if you are willing to keep an eye out for when they come back in stock and are willing to do rebates, you can get a 1tb Spatium M470 for $75 dollars on Newegg

[fossil cedar]

do you already have the 1650?

[covert vapor]

Also, you can save about $25 dollars if you go with two sticks of 16gb at CL16 instead of those 4 sticks of 8gb at CL18

[fossil cedar]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NWH4Xb id do this

[shrewd fjord]

Where am I going to get a GPU of those for that price?

[stoic island]

r/hws and shuffle mostly

[fossil cedar]

https://github.com/NeweggTechie/Graphics-cards/wiki/GPU-Buying-guide

[cosmic fjord]

Got a few more noob questions or concerns lol. A guy I know eluded to the 3060 being better bet versus the 3060ti because of the 12 gig of vram versus the 8 gig on the ti.

[fossil cedar]

They're incorrect the 3060 can't even utilise the 12gb, 3060 ti is way better

[cosmic fjord]

@fossil cedar that’s the kind of info I’m looking for!

Sounds like the 3060 ti might be in the sweet spot of price versus performance

[fossil cedar]

Yes, but its more of a whatever you can get closest to the msrp type of market unfortunately

[cosmic fjord]

Msrp seems long gone at this point eh lol?

I don’t mind spending a little bit if it keeps me from needing to upgrade right away

[stoic island]

To add some more context for why, 3060 gets a 192 bit bus for its vram, but 3060ti gets a 256 bit bus for its vram, so 3060ti gets vram with quite a bit higher bandwidth

Basically, 3060ti a little less vram, but faster vram, while 3060 gets a bit more vram, but slower vram.

[fossil cedar]

As well as a better gpu core

[stoic island]

ya

[bitter mason]

well even with hose down (G's up) the LF2 didn't fit so I just cut the little decorative shroud cover thing with a sawzall then sanded the cut. I think it came out alright. It's hardly noticeable. See #build-pics if interested @fossil cedar @frank stirrup

[clever nova]

do you guys put the liquid aio on the cpu after or before mounting the mb on the case?

[limber oyster]

After

[clever nova]

ty

[stoic island]

usually want to mount the radiator to the case first

[cosmic fjord]

@stoic island That makes sense. Which do you prefer let’s say for a FPS gaming PC?

[stoic island]

3060ti is just better than 3060 in 98% of the tasks

very few tasks just need the vram

[sharp tundra]

opinions on this AIO?

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/CVZ9TW/lian-li-galahad-aio-360-rgb-uni-fan-sl120-edition-5854-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-ga-360slb

[cosmic fjord]

@stoic island Ok, so how big of a jump is it to a 3070 from the 3060 ti?

[strong raft]

uh, 10-15% depending on the game.

[mossy venture]

tends to be around 10%

[little osprey]

Hi

so wish I could've gotten the Ti rather than the non

[mossy venture]

3060 instead of 3060 ti?

[little osprey]

I ended up with the regular 3060. Don't hate it but the Ti would be so much better for 1440P

[thin oar]

how much did you spend on the 3060?

[little osprey]

I'm running an R5 5600X with 32 GB of DDR 3200 CL16 with an RTX 3060 12GB on an X470 Aorus mainboard with a WD Black SSD. I run my games at 1440P on High with DLSS and Ray Tracing and I'm pretty happy with it

I got it for $399.99 plus tax and shipping. It's an EVGA XC

[thin oar]

that’s actually pretty good

when did you get it?

[little osprey]

June

I won the waiting list game

[thin oar]

Lucky

[cosmic fjord]

What’s a 3060 going for now?

[thin oar]

but good mid range setup

[little osprey]

I know right, I've been feeling guilty cause my friends have been looking and looking

[thin oar]

Like $600

maybe $700

[little osprey]

I've seen them as high as $900

[thin oar]

inflation is a pain

[little osprey]

This is the first time I've ever built a computer and had it be worth more in parts than I paid for it

[cosmic fjord]

That’s the main reason I’m looking at a prebuilt

[thin oar]

yeah, I’ve been looking at prebuilts too

I don’t intend on upgrading my current setup for a while since it’s alright

[little osprey]

prebuilts are almost the only option anymore

[thin oar]

1060 3gb, 3200g

[thin oar]

True

[little osprey]

I'm looking at laptops for my next big jump

[thin oar]

I don’t recommend going for a laptop imo

less performance for almost the same price

[little osprey]

I had a good one I got in 2016 that is still kicking today

[cosmic fjord]

There’s some options on Newegg now I’m looking at

[thin oar]

ah cool

[cosmic fjord]

Just trying to decide on which way to go

[thin oar]

I recommend looking at websites where you can design your own pc

[little osprey]

laptops come with expiration dates

[thin oar]

true

[little osprey]

but can still change your world, I've dabbled back and forth lol

[thin oar]

you can decide if you want wifi on your motherboard, more fans and stuff

[thin oar]

Yeah

[cosmic fjord]

Honestly, I’m not we’ll versed enough to really know what I need more of lol

That’s why I’m here

[thin oar]

Ah okay

[little osprey]

I built my tower back in 2012, since then I've gutted it and rebuilt it up to what I listed earlier

[thin oar]

I built mine in august

oh word

I’ve ranked up

My build isn’t super great

[cosmic fjord]

I’ve been a console gamer for 30 years , strictly PlayStation, and now I’m tired of waiting for a PS5 so have decided to switch to PC

[little osprey]

It doesn't have to be as long as it does what you want it to do

[thin oar]

yeah

true

[thin oar]

I was a console gamer for like 4-5 years before wanting to get a pc

[little osprey]

Trying to keep up with the jones and the top end will break you quickly lol

[thin oar]

Lmao yeah

[cosmic fjord]

I can get behind upgrading a video card every now and then

[thin oar]

it gets expensive but it really depends on what card

if it’s like a 30 series card then it’ll last you a good 5-7 years

they’ve got a good amount of vram so games will still run smoothly

[cosmic fjord]

Yeah I’m thinking a 3060 ti or@possibly 3070

[thin oar]

price to performance would be the 3060 ti

[little osprey]

I'd go for the 3060 ti personally.

[cosmic fjord]

Right on

[little osprey]

I'm still on the waiting list for one

[thin oar]

the 3070 only has a performance jump of about 10-15%

[cosmic fjord]

Why do you both lean to the ti?

Ahhhhh

[thin oar]

better performance

[bitter mason]

techwithexcellence can usually get you a GPU fairly quick

I got my 3070 & 3080ti from them

[little osprey]

at msrp?

[bitter mason]

no but not like outrageously over MSRP like amazon or ebay at least

[thin oar]

eBay isn’t terrible

[bitter mason]

oh well that's a fairly recent development then lol

[little osprey]

lol

[bitter mason]

check their website

[thin oar]

the lowest I’ve seen is about £300 which is like $350-$400

[bitter mason]

it'll look kinda suspect but they're a small company out of Ohio

[thin oar]

for a 3060

[bitter mason]

like run by a father & son

oh I dunno if they ship international tho tbh

maybe

[little osprey]

that's about what they should be going for

[bitter mason]

there's a 3060ti ASUS KO for $570 there

[little osprey]

I've seen the XC's from EVGA are up to $420-$430 now

up from $399.99 when I got it

[cosmic fjord]

Where do you guys stand on the intel processors? Looks like a lot of builds either have the series 5 and a lot have the 7

[thin oar]

intels good

for price to performance

[little osprey]

They are both good

[bitter mason]

I think theyir cheapest rn is EVGA 3060 XC for $515

[little osprey]

Intel is better right now

but considering I'm on my third generation processor on the same motherboard, it depends on your perspective

[thin oar]

12900k is about 50% faster than the 5950x

the z-690 is one heck of an upgrade though

[bitter mason]

damn my 5900x is old news

[thin oar]

the asus rog maximus is chonky

[bitter mason]

& 10900K is a dinosaur

[little osprey]

I've heard 30% under some workloads

[thin oar]

sometimes

depends what game/workload

[cosmic fjord]

Hmmmmm

[thin oar]

damn, 11th gen was only released in March

they’re already on 13th gen

[bitter mason]

11th gen was like a place holder

[thin oar]

yeah

[little osprey]

or maybe a juke?

[cosmic fjord]

So are the newest generations necessarily all better?

[thin oar]

yeah

apart from 11th gen

took two cores away

[bitter mason]

is 12600K better than 10900K? lol

obviously 12900K is

that wasn't a typo lol

[thin oar]

12600k smacks the 10900k

[cosmic fjord]

I mean $126000 is better than $10900 lol

[strong raft]

10900 is like an OC'd 10700 I think

[bitter mason]

oh I thought it was implied that we were talking about CPUs here

[thin oar]

basically

oh what

[cosmic fjord]

I was, just trying to get context

[bitter mason]

10900K is like OCed 10700K? what? lol

not sure OC makes up for 2 less cores

[little osprey]

I can tell you it certainly does not lol

[bitter mason]

I have my 10700KF OCed. The bin is meh so I can only get all-core at 50x

I can put my 10900K back to stock & run a benchmark or two

see how they compare I guess

[little osprey]

as the owner of a 6 core cpu

[bitter mason]

don't really wanna put the time & effort into it tho tbh

[thin oar]

as the owner of a 4 core cpu

[bitter mason]

as the owner of a Ford Mustang

...

where we going with this? lol

[little osprey]

vroom vroom

[thin oar]

no clue

[strong raft]

oops, meant 11900 vs 11700.

[bitter mason]

ohhh

ya I don't remember the specs on 11th gen

[thin oar]

price to performance for 11th gen is trash

[bitter mason]

just that 11600K was pretty much the best thing to come out of 11th gen

[thin oar]

8 cores, 16 threads

[covert vapor]

11400 has nice price to perf

[thin oar]

kinda

[covert vapor]

But high end be bleh

[bitter mason]

is 11400 i3?

[cosmic fjord]

Hey I have a mustang too lol

[covert vapor]

No, i5

[thin oar]

I don’t think they did i3 for 11th gen

or 12th

[bitter mason]

haha nice. Mine is getting old tho. It's an '08

[strong raft]

i5. 11400 or 11600k for $160ish or $220 respectively is pretty good

[cosmic fjord]

Mines on 08 too lol

[covert vapor]

They refreshed the previous i3s for 11th gen

No new ones

[thin oar]

rip

[strong raft]

12600K by itself is a solid $60 more, so idk.

[bitter mason]

it's nearing 100K miles now. 5.4L supercharged tho. It still hangs

[thin oar]

This chat has gone from talking about cpus to now talking about cars

[bitter mason]

I have a feeling they're gonna end up with a lot of extra 11th gen CPUs in stock lol

I wonder if they still produce them

[thin oar]

probably do

[bitter mason]

I'm back to CPUs

[obsidian wigeon]

They definitely still do

[bitter mason]

Newegg does sell car parts tho so not too far outside the scope

[obsidian wigeon]

That is until non-k skus comes

[little osprey]

takes a while to get them out of the pipeline

[bitter mason]

plus this is "build" chat but doesn't specify what we're building

[obsidian wigeon]

Should be q2 2022

[strong raft]

If 11600 hits $200, I'm buying. well, K/KF. Tried to save a letter.

[covert vapor]

Build a better dinner

[obsidian wigeon]

And probably b660 chipset

[covert vapor]

Mine was leftovers from lunch

[cosmic fjord]

You have a gt500 too?

[obsidian wigeon]

To suit the non-k

[bitter mason]

haha ya

[obsidian wigeon]

And make it worth it

[cosmic fjord]

Crazy

[bitter mason]

mine is white

took off the stripes awhile ago

[cosmic fjord]

Mine is black factory stripe delete

[bitter mason]

put the KR edition hood on it after I banged up the old one pretty good

[covert vapor]

You ever had rice in eggdrop soup

[bitter mason]

no but is it good?

[thin oar]

this conversation is starting to hurt my brain

[covert vapor]

I dunno, I have mixed feelings

[bitter mason]

lol just close your eyes for a minute, relax, deep breaths, then take it all in

[cosmic fjord]

I’m sorry for talking about cars lol, that’s my jam

[bitter mason]

I changed the stock pulley to Steeda

[cosmic fjord]

I have a Gen 1 Raptor too lol

[bitter mason]

daaamn

[covert vapor]

It didn't really add much to the taste, gave it a bit of a different texture but the soup got a bit gloopier

[bitter mason]

eehh

not a huge fan of gloopy

[covert vapor]

Yeah, I wanted wonton soup, but I didn't place the order and my mom ordered eggdrop, so meh

[bitter mason]

now wonton soup is where it's at

even tho I'm not huge on the water chestnuts

[cosmic fjord]

I usually stay away from the Asian soups, hard to tell what’s always in them

[covert vapor]

Ah man, I love water chestnuts, the texture is very nice imo

[cosmic fjord]

I’m down with lo mein noodles

https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali583/p/N82E16883360218

Opinions?

[obsidian wigeon]

not bad

[bitter mason]

it's a strange crunch to me I dunno

everything else is soft then boom! water chestnut

it's like an onion without much flavor I dunno

[cosmic fjord]

https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali560/p/N82E16883360190?item=N82E16883360190

This one is a few hundred more with a i7 cpu

[obsidian wigeon]

eh

not worth

[cosmic fjord]

Right on

[obsidian wigeon]

it's stepping into 3070 territory

[cosmic fjord]

As far as prebuilt price?

[obsidian wigeon]

ye

[spice prairie]

Got the red ring of death

[glossy quest]

Lol which coolers that?

[obsidian wigeon]

Looks like corsair

It's probably h170i elite lcd

[glossy quest]

I was hoping they'd have them ready with Intel 12th gen but still can't get in Canada I think

[obsidian wigeon]

eh

I wouldn't get em unless you really want that cool factor I guess

There's better value coolers out there

[glossy quest]

True I like the fans compared to kraken though and resolution is a bit better

[obsidian wigeon]

at least the nzxt is a bit cheaper tho

[spice prairie]

For sure better coolers, but bought it for the lcd. But the corsair does have a smaller screen compared to nzxt

[obsidian wigeon]

tfw ek aio with screen is taking a while to come

ek said about feb 2022 lol

that'd destroy anything in value on aio with rgb and screen

[glossy quest]

Oh interesting

[obsidian wigeon]

it costs 239.99

[desert gulch]

ye nucleus

[obsidian wigeon]

and cheapest aio with screen so far

[crude pecan]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xMn8ht

is the cpu gpu combo fine?

also rate 1-10

[obsidian wigeon]

cooler master aio

[stoic island]

plz don't tell me you're buying at the price listed

[obsidian wigeon]

leak moment

[crude pecan]

nope

The gpu is $1800 on that website, I got one for 456

1080

[stoic island]

Put it in then

click the cog, custom price

[crude pecan]

oh I can

yeah

[obsidian wigeon]

almost everything about it is..

not good

[crude pecan]

elaborate

[obsidian wigeon]

cooler master aios likes to leak

[crude pecan]

not that variant

thats that other type

[stoic island]

Its more of a meme than actually relevant but anyways

do you already own the board

[obsidian wigeon]

anyway

[crude pecan]

yep

[obsidian wigeon]

that aio is meh value

[stoic island]

sad

[crude pecan]

ik

[stoic island]

what do you already own

[crude pecan]

ram, mobo, case, ssd,

[stoic island]

Just set whatever you already own to marked as purchased next time you send the list btw

[crude pecan]

ok

[obsidian wigeon]

heck for a lil less it's possible to get ek-aio

the rgb ver

[crude pecan]

https://www.amazon.com/EK-Premium-EK-Vardar-High-Performance-Computer/dp/B0842Z9WYG?th=1

?

I only have room for a 240mm

[obsidian wigeon]

yeah

whelp outta stock on amazon

pcpp lists the price as if it's in stock, odd

[stoic island]

?

ek-aio 240mm says in stock on my end

[obsidian wigeon]

weird

doesn't say it is to me

[stoic island]

107$

[crude pecan]

same

$107

we could live in diff parts of the world

[obsidian wigeon]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08WRJ5MQW

this looks in stock to me at least

103

[crude pecan]

yeah thats in stock too

I'll get the EK Cooler

if its better than the cooler master

[obsidian wigeon]

yeah, it is

[crude pecan]

how do I set stuff to bought on pc part picker

also I already have a complete pc I'm just upgrading it a lot

[obsidian wigeon]

it's in the settings

that cog icon

[crude pecan]

do I just set price to 0?

[obsidian wigeon]

toggle manual price

then choose mark as purchased

[crude pecan]

oh I'm actually blind

[cosmic fjord]

Well, you won’t need a monitor than

[crude pecan]

lmao

[vocal pumice]

question: trying to get a graphics card for my PC and i think i've narrowed it down to these three. recommendations? https://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare?CompareItemList=9SIAYTVFU58532%2C14-131-782%2C14-150-855

[obsidian wigeon]

those prices are ridiculous

[vocal pumice]

i don't disagree... but i've been trying to get my hands on a graphics card for over a year. built the rest of my PC last october and haven't been able to use it because of scalpers and other shortages

[obsidian wigeon]

I literally saw better gpus for same price tho

Oh nvm, it's those that I saw

Well.. idk honestly

[jagged hill]

hey, my parents and i are trying to talk my brother out of getting a ps4 just for a few games he can handle and likes. should i give him my big (gt 1030) pc while i make myself a raspberry pi 4 device? i realized i don’t like a lot of high fidelity games anyway, as they often have forced online.

i’m also trying to convince him the benefits of pc over console but that’s not the point rn

[frank stirrup]

I mean the PS4 slaps a gt1030 around with little effort

So for gaming only I would go ps4

[jagged hill]

what gpu is ps4 on par with

tbh the game he wanted is kh3

which is low end

since that game honestly seems more like something of ps3 quality

it works fine and i wanted to give him something that can run it

[frank stirrup]

It's around an HD7850 iirc

[jagged hill]

but on my end i can settle for an rpi4 as a workstation and do fine

ps4?

[frank stirrup]

But games are crazy optimised on consoles

[jagged hill]

yeah kh3 doesn’t need much so that explains why kh3 runs as though it were a ps3 game

thats fine

as long as slowdown isnt felt

[frank stirrup]

But you can play much higher end games on a ps4

Why limit urself to just a few on a gt 1030

[jagged hill]

yeah i just don’t like a lot of high-end games and the forced online

they’re just not my thing like i was hoping

most games i like are either on switch or weaker

if anything i could use a rpi4 for work and maybe up to 5th-gen and possibly dreamcast?

most of the stuff i care to emulate and play are up to 6th gen and wii

[cosmic fjord]

Think there’ll be any deals on prebuilts coming up thru the new year or was Black Friday pretty much it?

[worn wave]

Theres always random deals, I would just suggest looking at the #tech-deals channel

[mossy venture]

whats your budget? i can keep an eye out

theres a 3060 build for tommorows deals on newegg i believe

[fossil cedar]

There wasn't really many prebuilts on sale on black Friday anyway

[cosmic fjord]

@mossy venture I don’t really have a strict budget but have been looking in the $1500 range. I’d pay up to $1800-1900 if something was a great deal

[frank stirrup]

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16883360221

[mossy venture]

any specific gpu power youre looking for?

[fossil cedar]

Doesn't matter you can't get more than a 3070 for that price

[mossy venture]

i know

but if theres a good deal on a 3060 pc but theyre not looking for that tier of perf it would be useless to suggest

[fossil cedar]

If they're looking for a 1.5k pc chances are they're looking for more premium than a 3060

[mossy venture]

i met a guy at my school looking to spend up to 7k on my pc and was looking at 3080 pcs...

some people are not looking at the right prices

and might have a bad interpretation of what tiers of pcs will cost from abs

[fossil cedar]

A kid in school was gonna spend 7k on a pc ?

[mossy venture]

yeah... fairly sure his parents are rich

he also smokes weed in school

he also invited me twice

[jagged hill]

that's interesting that the parents are willing to put that much towards a huge system

but at least it's a pc

would a 3080 be premium enough?

or is there something further?

[cosmic fjord]

I was thinking either 3060 ti or 3070 possibly

[fossil cedar]

For 7k you'd want a custom loop 3090, 12900k 128gb ram, crap tun of fast ssd storage and still hard to get to 7k

[fossil cedar]

@cosmic fjord i would definitely get this for your budget

[jagged hill]

yeah you don't need to spend all that 7k

right pato?

it's a maximum

[stoic island]

@jagged hill around 3k gets you top of the line

[jagged hill]

yeah it does

which made me wonder why spend 7k

[cosmic fjord]

@fossil cedar that’s on my short list on Newegg’s site

Probably a dumb question but why do you lean that way? Pretend i just just forward in time from 1995 lol

[fossil cedar]

ABS has good build quality, don't use proprietary parts like the OEM's(dell, hp etc) do, the price is good and the parts are good

[cosmic fjord]

Yeah I’ve already established that I’m staying from Dell, HP, Asus, Linovo

[stoic island]

Take a look around here for details
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLsuVSmND84QuM2HKzG7ipbIbE_R5EnCLM

[jagged hill]

When did these big devs start using proprietary OEM formats?

Did they always do this, or was this a thing in the 2000s onwards?

[stoic island]

Whenever they figured out they can make more money that way :D

[jagged hill]

As in cutting costs to make these?

Yeah, prebuilts are a ripoff no matter what

[stoic island]

Seems to be somewhat gradual, thingy here for example
https://youtu.be/wtaHNUmQ7Mk

[jagged hill]

So Dell wasn't always that terrible.

[stoic island]

Dell still isn't bad for servers

[cosmic fjord]

My last PC was a dell but that was years ago lol

[jagged hill]

My only prebuilt was a Dell, but it was useless to upgrade it.

[cosmic fjord]

Luckily I’ve been sniffing around here and watching YouTube clips or I was going to buy an Alienware unit

[jagged hill]

I just hope e-waste gets recycled properly, but knowing how big companies see it cheaper to toss that stuff, I doubt it.

[cosmic fjord]

I’ve been praying open my Third Eye

[little osprey]

facts

Me and my poweredge are good B)

[fossil cedar]

Lenovo Legion (their gaming lineup) actually have non proprietary parts and decent cases usually

[vernal night]

Hey anyone, would you guys recommend (1x16GB RAM) for $44.99 or (2x8GB RAM) for $58.87 if I only have 2 memory slots in my motherboard? I have been recommended to use the (2x8GB RAM) but the (1x16GB RAM) is a little cheaper, and leaves an extra open slot for upgrades. Any help or opinions are welcome

[potent portal]

2x 8gb is better. It'll run much faster because dual channel.

[vernal night]

hmmm

okay that sounds valid

I mean its mostly on me for getting a mobo with 2 slots for memory lol

alr ill do that

[little osprey]

funnily enough, a lot of higher-end overclocking motherboards only have 2 dimm slots, for RAM overclock stability related reasons

[hazy wadi]

So basically buy ddr5 before it becomes the social standard

[little osprey]

not necessarily? what makes you say that

did i miss part of a conversation

im too lazy to scroll up to read anything

[hazy wadi]

Basically

More performance

=/=

More better

B u T

We will probs use ddr5 for the rest of the 20's and therefore

Is in your better interest to switch now

[little osprey]

more performance is more better yes

but if you dont need it, there's no point in getting it lol

I'll still be on the AM4 platform for at least another 3 years

My b450 board and 3900x are plenty fine, so there's no reason to just upgrade, in my case

[little osprey]

i just realized that you meant "does not equal" lmao

im multi-tasking right now i promise im not dumb 😔

[hazy wadi]

Just open task manager duh

[little osprey]

why do you say it's best to switch now though?

[hazy wadi]

Just like how ddr4 became the standard like 8 years ago, same with ddr5

7, 8 idr

[desert gulch]

That equation is 1

Equal divided by itself

[little osprey]

but why should we upgrade now just because it exists now

[desert gulch]

=1

Lel

[little osprey]

if you want to interpret it that way, sure? lol

[desert gulch]

For sure

Math 🤓

[little osprey]

i hate math

it sucks

[desert gulch]

Arithmetics 🤓

[little osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/are-you-sure-are-you-good-you-sure-is-that-really-okay-are-you-positive-gif-17339818

[hazy wadi]

Algerbar

[lofty tundra]

What's an electric screwdriver I can get on amazon for cheap to finish my pc build? The holes are like messed up on one of my fans so was going to force it in with an electric screwdriver.

[desert gulch]

If you can't use a normal screwdriver, don't get an electric driver to force in a screw

As long as you use 3 screws on a normal fan, it's fine

They don't put out a ton of backforce

[lofty tundra]

It won't really go in at all and the rest of the fans went in fine.

[desert gulch]

Just one screw?

[lofty tundra]

All 4

On the one fan

[desert gulch]

All four won't go in?

Is it because of the fan or because of the case?

[lofty tundra]

Not really like maybe halfway

fan

[desert gulch]

I mean it should work fine

[lofty tundra]

case was fine mounted another fan through the same case bracket

[desert gulch]

What fan is it?

[lofty tundra]

corsair lg something

the rgb ones

[desert gulch]

Weird, it should work fine

Plus, an electric screwdriver can't really force in screws well

Low torque usually

[lofty tundra]

I had the same problem trying to build some workout equipment just got an electric drill from my buddies dad and forced them in a bit. Worked fine. Was just going to do the same with the fan. Sometimes the holes are just slightly off.

[desert gulch]

I mean I wouldn't force in little screws like that, but that's just me

There's pretty easy to strip out or snap

[lofty tundra]

Yeah but it's either that or a pretty much useless fan anyway.

[mossy venture]

opinions on this parts list? im pretty sure on it other than the mobo https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dN2WMv

and said if they wanted to they could go 11400 instead

and theyre going to add their own storage

[storm stratus]

Found this old Alienware about to fix it

[earnest olive]

6 ram slots

first gen hedt huh

@thin oar why do you have a 1060 3gb and a 750ti in the same system?

along with integrated graphics?

[thin oar]

I’m not very smart

[earnest olive]

you using 3 graphics adapters to drive 10 monitors or

[thin oar]

I’m saving for the 750 ti for another persons build and didn’t have a box to put it in so just stuck it in my system so it wouldn’t get damaged

plus I got the 3200g for free from someone

[earnest olive]

lol I mean I guess that's one way to keep it safe

[thin oar]

lmao yeah

[earnest olive]

I put a 1060 on a shelf with no box for a while

it was fine

[thin oar]

I have no shelves in my room

[earnest olive]

just make sure your temps aren't suffering

[thin oar]

temps are sitting at 61 Celsius which is normal

[earnest olive]

I ran this for a while lol the top card was 20C higher than normal

[thin oar]

lmao

what gpu’s are they?

[earnest olive]

top is a 3070 bottom is a 3080

the air gap is so tiny between them

💀

[thin oar]

yeah lmao

wait #building-and-recc-chat

lmao

nevermind

thought this was pics

[fossil cedar]

you should be able to get a 2x8gb kit for 52$ https://pcpartpicker.com/product/P4FKHx/silicon-power-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3200-cl16-memory-sp016gxlzu320bdaj5

[earnest olive]

the 3080 had enough breathing room but the 3070 was not having fun

I'm a mod I of all people wouldn't be talking in build pics

[thin oar]

oh cool

just realised that lmao

[earnest olive]

price rose to $52? sad

[fossil cedar]

budget and do they have the gpu yet?

[earnest olive]

I see corsair ram

man I wanted to use a different emote but the server it's from got deleted

I am sad

[fossil cedar]

lol

[earnest olive]

hey pato

it's december 7 can I play mariah carey yet

[mossy venture]

1500 cad

[fossil cedar]

then why is it a us pcpp list 😭

[mossy venture]

Don't have the gpu yet, I was using it as a place holder

[mossy venture]

Kinda forgot it's cad until like an hour ago lmao

I dont know him well

[fossil cedar]

🤦‍♂️

[mossy venture]

And he said 1500$

[fossil cedar]

okay

[mossy venture]

And forgot he lives in Canada

It took me about 70 tries to tell him vram isn't what determines how good a gpu is in and of itself

[earnest olive]

ahh so he uses r/amd

[mossy venture]

Just kept saying "he's going to upgrade to a 4gb nvidia gpu"

And he Mines on a 550 4gb

And thinks it's rhe same as a 1650

[earnest olive]

3060 > 3080

[mossy venture]

Yes

Only reason I helped him is to prove a point

Most annoying kid ever

And I know myself

[earnest olive]

ohhh so that's why you told him to buy corsair ram

[mossy venture]

Lmfao

He alr has the ram, idk what kit

[clever nova]

I am buying a 1440p 165 hz monitor. Currently have 1080p monitor 144hz. Do you guys think i should just keep doing competitive games on the 1080 144hz, until i can afford a 1440p 240 hz. Little over budget rn with just the pc alone, so I could just get a 4k 60 fps monitor for games where i dont care about fps.

[mossy venture]

Put that in as a place holder

[earnest olive]

I tried 240hz in league

couldn't tell the difference from 165hz

[viral ore]

yeah lmao bc thats league

[earnest olive]

I can't play shooters

[viral ore]

you dont need more than 90 for it to have any sort of effect on your gameplay

its practically a side scroller

[fossil cedar]

@mossy venture https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/nPM4Xb

[mossy venture]

Thanks

M27q

[clever nova]

i went with the dell one

[mossy venture]

What Dell one

And how much

[earnest olive]

please don't evade filter

[clever nova]

2721DGF

was like 330, but yea i spent a good time trying to decide between m27q and the 2721DGF

[mossy venture]

M27q all the way

[clever nova]

seemed like m27q was better picture, but people recommended the other one more

[mossy venture]

Whatever ,too late

Won't make a huge difference

[clever nova]

for gaming

[clever nova]

i do coding and other stuff as well so wasnt sure about the BGR setup and if the windwos cleartype thing would work in command terminals and other stuff

also didnt want to deal with RMA of gigbyte if i had too since i heard they are really bad

https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapcmonitors/comments/nnwnql/dell_s2721dgf_vs_gigabyte_m27q/ most people in this thread ended up going with the dell

[mossy venture]

Reddit for pc suggestions is full of people thinking they know what they're saying

I got told on r/suggestapc by four people that vega 11 on the 3400g is equivelant to a 1050 ti

[clever nova]

ok ill think about cancelling then

ah the good deal on m27q is gone darn lol

300 now

[mossy venture]

dw about it

it wont make a huge difference

and its not worth the hassle

however you spell it

[little osprey]

[little osprey]

Exactly

Way too many clowns on reddit. Just avoid it @clever nova

[clever nova]

ok thanks

i mean it hasnt been delivered yet

so I can just cancel and get the m27q

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nL3bdriSPw dang wish this video came out when i was buying

seems like they are pretty much the same tho

[exotic quartz]

Anyone know of a 2.5 to 3.5 adapter vertical mount? kinda like this but with clearance to screw it into the case thru the bottom holes https://www.amazon.ca/TRIXES-Mounting-Adapter-Bracket-Holder/dp/B00HFSMHDI/ref=asc_df_B00HFSMHDI/

[abstract ridge]

hi

[cosmic fjord]

Hi

[lofty tundra]

There any direction these antenna are supposed to go or just toss them on there? Didn’t even see anything in the manual on them.

[elfin heron]

when did EVGA do white gpus?

[worn wave]

Not anytime soon as far as I know

[elfin heron]

With antennas like that... you want them at two different angles so that they're not overlapping a lot but you want to avoid the antennas making contact with any cables carrying current.

[worn wave]

Actually apparantly there is a FTW3 white variant?

[elfin heron]

I was looking in build pics and at the bottom there is a white one

[worn wave]

Other than that last white GPU they made were 1080 Tis

[abstract vigil]

I put them like a V 😆

[tough beacon]

Aye I recently built a PC and it’s not booting up to the BIOS, all the Fans are spinning the Case Fan, CPU fan, and GPU fans are spinning.

I am not sure if it’s my ram not compatible with my motherboard.

I am using the G.skill Aegis 3200mhz on a ASRock B450M HDV R4.0

[shrewd fjord]

RAM should be fine with that, but I'm not an expert

[tough beacon]

Idk, but I’ll test it out tomorrow once my brother gets the CPU and the ram to test.

Ans hopefully it’s just a incompatible ram.

And*

Yea I’ve figured it out,

Yea the ram is completely not supportable,

[earnest olive]

what's the cpu

[earnest olive]

ram compatibility is usually not an issue with a motherboard

ddr4 is ddr4

on first boot it should be jedec speeds

how did you come to that conclusion?

[desert gulch]

Unless it's co*rsair ram, then it may not even be stable at jedec

[earnest olive]

he said g.skill

[desert gulch]

Yeah but was just making a point

[jagged ember]

yeah why'd you decide the ram was completely unsupported

[little osprey]

i have corsair ram

https://tenor.com/view/easter-funny-shrek-funny-face-gif-16873758

[sharp storm]

hi

[drifting ether]

Best cooler for i9 12900k?

[tough beacon]

Checked at pangoly. Com

[obsidian wigeon]

eh

It's just faulty kit

[tough beacon]

Alright, I guess I have to get nee ram kits from BB then.

New*

[fossil cedar]

Arctic liquid freezer ii 420mm if you're excluding custom loops

[frank stirrup]

EVGA Roboclocker beats it

[fossil cedar]

When you can buy that retail sure

[jolly spruce]

Hello I have a pc part list from newegg pc builder. Can they build for me or do I have to build it myself?

[fossil cedar]

They do have a build feature but it's limited to certain parts, what's your budget and what will be the use for the pc?

[jolly spruce]

$4000 for gaming

[fossil cedar]

https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali597/p/N82E16883360232 i would just grab this, you could do a bit better with 4000$ but the cards in the newegg builder are fairly expensive although i could do a list in that for you if you wish

[cosmic fjord]

Damn 4 grrrrrr, he just dropped the hammer

[desert gulch]

Ln2 is cringe

try LHe

[fossil cedar]

Liquid helium?

[desert gulch]

Ye

[fossil cedar]

Ah

[desert gulch]

Ln2 cooling is for noobs

[frank stirrup]

I mean use that as the coolant in the roboclocker

[frank stirrup]

You have what air cooler?

[desert gulch]

yeah, but i have no need in hell for liquid cooling lol

for a 3600

be a wate of money

[frank stirrup]

U ultra mega noob then

Rekt

[desert gulch]

Atleast i didnt hella degrade my cpu…

[frank stirrup]

I didnt either

Also either way my cpu still slaps urs

So

[desert gulch]

Wait someone degraded their 3600x a bucnh

wasnt it you?

[frank stirrup]

It wasnt me it was 1usmus

Blame him

Not me

[desert gulch]

Idc was still you

my cpu prolly slaps yours now yours is degraded

lol

maybe someday ill oc a bit and try to beat yours

[frank stirrup]

I can stable 4.35 all core at 1.25v

On my degraded cpu

Single core boosts till 4.43 or so

Good luck

[desert gulch]

I thought you used 1.35

ohhhhhh yeah right

you thought the same and degraded it

heh

[frank stirrup]

Yeah those values I just said are post degrade

[desert gulch]

yeah

use 1.35 and come back

in 2 months

[frank stirrup]

Nop

[desert gulch]

atleast my gpu still slaps yours

[frank stirrup]

For a few days

[desert gulch]

Ez dubs

[frank stirrup]

Enjoy it while you can

[desert gulch]

Have fun with your vram temps

portable sun

[sharp tangle]

free space heater

[desert gulch]

True

it is kinda cold

[frank stirrup]

Have fun with ur drivers

[sharp tangle]

it is pretty cold

[desert gulch]

Wdym?

[frank stirrup]

5700xt

[desert gulch]

ive had one game crash since june 2020

so id say theyre p good

[frank stirrup]

Crap driver support

[desert gulch]

and it was on a unstable version of the game

nah

drivers are great

[frank stirrup]

How many times have u updated em?

[desert gulch]

never had any real issues with them

uhhhh

i have them updated to like august 2021 i think

ive kinda stopped updating cause i have no reason to

[frank stirrup]

Bad

[desert gulch]

and cause updating requires a restart and im lazy

[sharp tangle]

updating gpu drivers requires a restart?

[frank stirrup]

Yes

For all gpu drivers

[sharp tangle]

welp

geforce experience installs it and doesnt make me restart tho

[desert gulch]

mine makes me to finish the install

sooo

[sharp tangle]

hm interestin

[fossil cedar]

Nvidia doesn't require restart

[desert gulch]

heh i should honestly just sell me gpu for 1.2k

apparently its been done before

then just buy a 3070 off hws

ez

[fossil cedar]

Yeah

[frank stirrup]

I mean you can just not restart with radeon too and have em install when you shut down pc

Like what nvidia does

But ehhh

[desert gulch]

Yeah i rather restart and get it done with

[humble rock]

Hey what psu do you think I need for a 10400f and a 980 ti I have old 550 80 +bronze lying around that should do it right?

[frank stirrup]

Depends on what model it is

But yeah

550w is fine

[humble rock]

Evga founders the blower one

[frank stirrup]

Im talking about psu model

[humble rock]

Oh cv 550 Corsair

[frank stirrup]

Its fine but I dont recommend it

Its not a great psu

Quality wise

[humble rock]

Yeah maybe I’ll grab a cheap 650

[fossil cedar]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/hRJmP6/evga-gd-2019-700-w-80-gold-certified-atx-power-supply-100-gd-0700-v1 I'd grab this
Or even this if you don't mind rebate
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3F2rxr/corsair-cx-2017-650w-80-bronze-certified-atx-power-supply-cp-9020122-na

[twin sedge]

Dont cheap out on psus

Look through the psu tier list, there should be some good affordable B tier ones

Or what Pato said above

[twilit salmon]

So i just installed an AIO on my system and now my desktop will boot but it gets stuck on the boot logo any idea on how to fix it?

[humble rock]

@twin sedge I found a good 750 cooler master 80+ gold for a good price

[twilit salmon]

Nvm the issue is my SSD…

[twin sedge]

Send link

[twilit salmon]

Nvm again as i just switched SSDs to check that and it happened again

[twin sedge]

It’s probably not the aio in any case because that wouldn’t affect it booting or not