#building-and-recc-chat

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clever nova
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does B&H list things they dont have inventory for? they are the only ones that have the fans i want everywhere else is sold out lol

potent portal
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NB/SoC and DRAM voltages you'll change

clever nova
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just wondering if i buy it and it takes months or something lol

potent portal
jagged ember
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like so?

potent portal
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Yes

jagged ember
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okay

clever nova
jagged ember
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nothing else to change?

potent portal
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For now, no

jagged ember
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okay

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reboot time

fossil cedar
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Uhh did you change speed and timings?

jagged ember
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I sent the changes above for timings

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speed I did

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uh oh

fossil cedar
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Speed without loosing timings =clear cmos time

jagged ember
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oops

potent portal
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He did timings but I didn't see a speed change

jagged ember
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it didn't work lol

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I did set it to 3600

fossil cedar
jagged ember
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16 18 19 19 40 timings

fossil cedar
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18 19 19 19 40

jagged ember
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ohh

fossil cedar
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Yep

jagged ember
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nb/soc voltage at 1.1, dram voltage 1.35

fossil cedar
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Try that ye

jagged ember
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fingers crossed

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AY

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It boots

fossil cedar
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Nice, now download testmem5 and run the extreme anta profile

potent portal
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And OCCT memory test just as a sanity check

jagged ember
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ok

fossil cedar
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Testmem5 extreme anta is gonna take a while fyi

jagged ember
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I think it might just be me tricking myself

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but it seems faster booting

jagged ember
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hours?

potent portal
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A few hours yeah

jagged ember
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how about occt?

potent portal
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That's how you know it's 100% stable

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OCCT only does 1 hour on the free version

jagged ember
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mm

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I assume cranking it is good

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in this case

fossil cedar
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Yeah all the way

potent portal
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85-90% is fine, any more might cause crashes in other apps

jagged ember
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I do 90 then

potent portal
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But yeah you can try 100% and see if the os lives

jagged ember
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o

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okay

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95 it is

fossil cedar
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95% is the max afaik

jagged ember
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should I quit all other applications?

potent portal
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Ideally yes

jagged ember
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got wallpaper engine and some other stuff running

fossil cedar
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Yeah get rid of that

jagged ember
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done

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I am running it

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o I have free version lol

fossil cedar
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Yeah noone pays for it lol

jagged ember
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kek

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now I sit and wait

fossil cedar
fossil cedar
jagged ember
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oh

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uh, I would make more nfts but

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hm

clever nova
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anyone wanna help me with pc aesthetics?

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lol

fossil cedar
clever nova
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how do you think i should balance the white and black? should the aio be black or whtie?

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im using galahd so the part itself that goes on the bracket is like more white/platinum whether i go with black or white.

fossil cedar
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Hmm lemme have a look

clever nova
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thanks

fossil cedar
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Np

clever nova
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so you think the aio should be white?

fossil cedar
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Imo ye

clever nova
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is adding a customized gpu backplate like this dangerous?

fossil cedar
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Uuh it can definitely hurt thermals, depends what it was made out of, I'm assuming acrylic tho

stoic island
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I know some company makes custom metal backplates

clever nova
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i cant find what its made ot of

stoic island
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If none of the marketing mentions thermals, its probably not something it helps with

clever nova
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@stoic island

stoic island
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Yea sounds like it's prob acrylic

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Forgot the company but a company makes metal backplates

clever nova
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thats better?

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i kinda like the look of the acrylic if its not bad

stoic island
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Metal helps dissipate heat

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Acrylic doesn't

clever nova
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ok thanks

odd crypt
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@stoic island hey ik what i did wring yesterday

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I didnt oush the ram hard enougu

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But the ethernet wont work nie

stoic island
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So it boots?

odd crypt
stoic island
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Just grab drivers and then you'll be good

little osprey
fossil cedar
little osprey
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oh

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the only bad thing about wallpaper engine is the obscene amount of anime wallpapers

potent portal
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That and the obscene amount of cpu resources it uses for animated wallpapers

serene hedge
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So how do you make your account eligible for a specific coupon code?

potent portal
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On what website? Newegg?

serene hedge
sharp tangle
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any of you guys know why netflix looks like crap on my pc? its 1440p, my netflix plan goes upto 4k and looks great on my tv but my monitor is blurry with netflix, anyone know a fix??

earnest olive
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videos are heavy

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my animated scene is very lightweight

potent portal
# serene hedge yea

Some codes are regional, they simply won't work outside the target region. If you know the region it's meant for you can try using a vpn to an eligible area.

serene hedge
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so turns out Newegg deleted a code that was going to help me

serene hedge
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it was like 2021eggisups or something

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and it didn't expire until 12/31/21

potent portal
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There's usually a "while supplies last" disclaimer, so they can expire early

serene hedge
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there wasn't though

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that's the thing

jagged ember
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i think it is preliminarily stable

serene hedge
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i am so mad rn i think i'm going to scream

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so turns out the promo code i was using for my build is a UPS employee discount

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how Honey detected it, idk

fossil cedar
# jagged ember i think it is preliminarily stable

Nice, now try tras at 38 and then use test mem 5 extreme anta config https://www.overclock.net/threads/memory-testing-with-testmem5-tm5-with-custom-configs.1751608/

Overclock.net

Hello everybody

I am just making a very light tutorial with a collection of custom config files and a DOWNLOAD LINK for TM5 v0.12
anta777 absolut config Official Intel DDR4 24/7 Memory Stability Thread

None of the work is mine but it seems like a pretty good and fast testing app

jagged ember
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then set tras to 38

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and try tomorrow night

fossil cedar
frank stirrup
fossil cedar
fossil cedar
frank stirrup
frank stirrup
thorny hazel
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Is someone able to help me? I need to upgrade my laptop's RAM and am trying to make sure the brand is trustworthy and all the components are compatible.

fringe trail
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I need help with my rgb lights, they just stopped working.

clever nova
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Need some help

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so i just ordered the lian li galahad off of b&h. They said that it will include the brackets for intel i12, after December 2021. It is sold out everyhwere but B&H. Should i just cancel the order, and wait for it to restock on amazon. in decemeber?

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because if i request for the lga 1700 seperatly through their website it would take a month to ship

lofty tundra
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Going to build in a bit

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real quick question

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Will having windows oem on my prebuilt cause any issues on my new system if I don't wipe and clear out of my oem if one is home and new build is windows pro retail?

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Or since they are separate versions one being home and another being pro will it not matter?

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@fossil cedar @stoic island

trail elbow
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Need a good WiFI card anyone got any recomendations

lofty tundra
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@strong raft

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Also sht was I supposed to get a micro switch to test the motherboard? Or just build it and hope it works?

potent portal
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Micro switch?

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Most of the time you just build it, and if you're paranoid you can build outside the case. Preferably on cardboard like the motherboard box.

lofty tundra
strong raft
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@lofty tundra I'm not sure on the o.s. stuff. What about pulling the 1080 out?

lofty tundra
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@strong raft

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This is my prebuilt

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Am i good to flip on the mobo like this to test it?

strong raft
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Hmm, I've never tried w/ no cpu/ram installed. Maybe it could still boot to bios?

lofty tundra
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Hmm aight well everyone seems to be saying just toss it in so ill just toss it in ig and then hope it works.

strong raft
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Or put in ram & CPU w/ hsf just sitting on it like that & check the bios for a few min. Shouldn't heat up too quick at idle

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I've just had luck putting a rig together w/ few issues. 1st rig was caseless sitting on mobo box for a while actually.

potent portal
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The minimum requirement for it to post to bios is cpu, ram, and some sort of video device

lofty tundra
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My cpu has integrated graphics. Im not pulling out that gpu rn haha.

potent portal
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Integrated works

lofty tundra
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The cpu has the directional arrow i don’t see one on board tho

potent portal
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It's probably a small indent in the plastic

lofty tundra
potent portal
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I believe the bottom left is your triangle marker

lofty tundra
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How do you know?

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It literally all looks the same to me

strong raft
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That's weird it's not obvious. Might have to check mobo manual/specs to confirm.. Fal'Cie knows some stuff though.

potent portal
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Intuition I guess, but yeah check manual to be sure

strong raft
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Oh, maybe just try having cpu text being readable w/ io stuff to it's left, if that makes sense.

obsidian wigeon
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It looks like bottom right to me

strong raft
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I'm waiting to see which way the cpu text faces when it's installed, lol

potent portal
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Not physically possible for it to be bottom right

obsidian wigeon
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true

lofty tundra
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This sht is not helpful.

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Well it could either be right side up or upside down.

obsidian wigeon
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it's only upside up

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upside down would be wrong cause the letters will be flipped

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that's the easy way to tell

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it's physically impossible to do it wrong

potent portal
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Not all boards have the socket oriented the same way

strong raft
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Look the the 2 lil notch things across the outside top/bottom of socket

obsidian wigeon
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ohh

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those two lil notches on the bottom

strong raft
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Generally cpu can only fit in 1 way, no matter the mobo

obsidian wigeon
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intel changed the system i guess?

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with lga 1700

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as in uh, in the top in that case

potent portal
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They changed a lot with 1700

obsidian wigeon
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the pic shows the notches on top

lofty tundra
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The notches are in the same place on both sides.

obsidian wigeon
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nice

potent portal
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That looks right then

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Again, weird it's not more obvious

lofty tundra
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Is there supposed to be a little pressure on the black flap pushing it down? Really nervous about breaking the pins.

strong raft
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Sorry, pretty dang obv to me after i see the notches in cpu also. Socket notches aren't symetric, on purpose. 👍

lofty tundra
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Soo i have it the right way then?

obsidian wigeon
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yep

lofty tundra
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@strong raft

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Aight

obsidian wigeon
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otherwise it shouldn't fit

strong raft
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Yeah you're good. If it lays right in like that, it's usually correct. Nice

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Cool to learn this w/ ya because I'll end up w/ lga 1200 maybe & that's different. Don't feel like spending $600+ at once just yet. 😅 wait, 12gen doesn't really require win 11 does it?

potent portal
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Yeah we're at a point where GPUs need to seriously catch up to CPUs, no need for latest and greatest especially at higher resolutions

obsidian wigeon
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it's 1700

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1200 is diff probably

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also yep

lofty tundra
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Aight then there is some pressure on this. Idk if i just push it down or.

obsidian wigeon
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gpus these days are the bottlenecks lmao

strong raft
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The plastic cover was just for transport

obsidian wigeon
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nah, don't push it down

potent portal
obsidian wigeon
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use that metal lever

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and take plastic cover off first

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but take cover off before you use the lever that is

lofty tundra
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Video and that manual pic I sent show the cover is supposed to pop off.

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But there's like some pressure so idk if I am doing it right.

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Video of a different board tho kind of similar-ish

potent portal
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Some pressure is expected to ensure proper contact, but not so much you feel like it'll bend the cpu

obsidian wigeon
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he means the cover

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like he couldn't remove it yet

lofty tundra
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Uhh this like doesn’t go down further. The cover popped off with a little pressure but isn’t this supposed to close?

strong raft
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Nvrm. Hmm

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Ok maybe open it, reinstall cpu then try to close then latch that part

potent portal
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When you pull the lever down it'll close the thing over the cpu

lofty tundra
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Im saying the side levers like dont let it close tho.

strong raft
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It just hooks on the lil metal piece sticking out "bottom right"

lofty tundra
strong raft
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That pin thing sticking up can't rotate down enough? Weird

lofty tundra
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Aight idk i just sent it i think it closed without bending anything. Fk im in panic boys.

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Shoulda bought a prebuilt lmao

strong raft
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Nah. Maybe it just seems like too much pressure. I haven't installed a cpu in 6+ yrs, Lolz. Guess I should replace the paste on my 3550. It'll be a spare pc.

potent portal
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Some pressure is normal like I said

covert vapor
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Intel cpus have to have a bit of pressure when pulling the lever down

potent portal
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Just not "bending the cpu in half" pressure

lofty tundra
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Aight this is where im at now pretty confident this is the primary ssd slot with a heatsink.

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But wondering what some other things are one sec let me label.

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Aight are the blue things for the gpu? And then which orange slot would you recommend sticking second ssd in since idk if the gpu would go over it and make it hot.

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Just 2?

obsidian wigeon
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depends on mobo config

covert vapor
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Usually don't have to worry about the gpu making the m.2 hot, so 2 is fine for a second drive. The ones you label as blue are for any pcie cards that use x16 as a form factor. Usually the top one is the one you want to use because it will usually have the full 16 lanes connected though you can check your mobo manual for full detail on which ones do or don't have all 16 lanes to determine if you should consider other slots for the gpu

lofty tundra
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Hm aight

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This supposed to be like that under the heatsink? Looks broke.

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The little part hanging on the screw

potent portal
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GPU being over the SSD is actually beneficial to temps because moving warm air is better than no moving air

obsidian wigeon
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hm

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nope

lofty tundra
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Oh i think it’s part of it

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To hold it in?

obsidian wigeon
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doesn't look normal

lofty tundra
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Turn it over the ssd after install?

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Nvm it’s normal

stoic island
lofty tundra
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My windows home oem is on my prebuilt. Was asking if i need to wipe that pc or something to link same account on new pc but with fresh pro install.

stoic island
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If they're two separate PCs, don't have to worry about it

lofty tundra
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Im fkn lost 😩

viral ore
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use google maps smh

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put the board in next

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well first triple check the standoff locations

lofty tundra
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I was but idk where the wifi attennas go and what im supposed to do with the io shield.

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Neither were in the manual.

viral ore
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well i see you have installed the shield

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now stick the board into it

lofty tundra
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Nah the shield just kind of hanging there

viral ore
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gotta push it in around the edges

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it will click

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its kinda a pain

lofty tundra
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Do i press the clickers that are sticking out into the mobo?

viral ore
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the what

lofty tundra
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The port pins

viral ore
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ahh

lofty tundra
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Like bend them straight and press the bord into it?

glossy quest
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I'ma be in your spot soon my mobo pre-order finally shipped and I'm pretty newb

viral ore
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dont bend anything

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just jam the board in there at an angle

lofty tundra
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Ok io board is in

viral ore
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of course, be mindfull of the ethernet jack, as the bit of metal there may get stuck in the port if youre not careful

lofty tundra
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Where do wifi anttennas go?

viral ore
viral ore
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you can put those on whenever

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ideally at the very end

lofty tundra
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Aight

viral ore
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when you have the system booted to windows

lofty tundra
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Idk if you can see this but

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See how the metal is kind of in the top of the ethernet

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Is it supposed to be? Because that’s where it has been trying to fit.

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@viral ore

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Cause there’s not really anywhere else for it to go.

viral ore
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yeah thats what you have to avoid

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see the bit i marked?

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just bend it up a bit

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then reinsert the board

lofty tundra
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Like that?

viral ore
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yup

lofty tundra
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Aight cool

viral ore
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now check all the screwholes on the board

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might need a flashlight

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make sure the standoffs are lined up perfectly with the board holes

lofty tundra
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Yeah they are going to screw in now

viral ore
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you will notice the board might move around a tad, but you want the board to be secure before you actually screw it in

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so check the standoff locations, then start threading screws, making sure you keep them loose enough to still be able to move the board around a bit

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then once all the screws are partially threaded, you can tighten them up, making them nice and snug

lofty tundra
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Will i have to pull the whole mobo out to slip the lga1700 bracket in behind it when i receive that to put my cooler in?

viral ore
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oh you havent installed the cooler yet?

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check the back of the case

lofty tundra
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Or does it slip through the case?

viral ore
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they usually leave a large gap in the case metal

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what case is it?

lofty tundra
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Nah. Nzxt said they were out of brackets and put me in a line for it.

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Lian li O11 dynamic

viral ore
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yeah see

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that huge opening

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you will remove the back panel, move the drive cage out of the way, then install the cooler

lofty tundra
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Aight cool cool

lofty tundra
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@viral ore

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In the home stretch for what i have now.

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But

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Is the audio cord supposed to have a little tangle like that?

frank stirrup
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Its fine

lofty tundra
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That’s a cool pic lol

frank stirrup
lofty tundra
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Aight

viral ore
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is 1am for me i 😴

plush mist
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night fish

azure falcon
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quick question. If I purchased a NVMe and all the other parts arrived. Should I wait for the NVMe to install my windows on it or just build without it?

tight sorrel
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Its a choice. no real advantages either way

azure falcon
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ok

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thnk you

frank stirrup
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You can still boot to bios to make sure everything works

obsidian wigeon
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ye

frank stirrup
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Without having any drives installed

strong raft
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Agreed, test everything else then all you have to do later is pop in the nvme drive and install windows.

livid cobalt
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Hi guys. I am trying to build my new gaming PC. It Starts with a aorus extreme 3090. Looking for a right motherboard and mid tower case. Any suggestions?

tight sorrel
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budget?

livid cobalt
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Average

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Not trying to be fancy

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😁

tight sorrel
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you have the 3090 already?

livid cobalt
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No but I would buy them all at once

vague oracle
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If you’re trying to be average why the 3090?

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Massive waste of money especially for just gaming

livid cobalt
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I like the extra gram

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For photo and video editing

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As well

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Intel 12900k + rtx 3090

obsidian wigeon
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the gpu handles the heavy lifting

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a 12900k is not a need tbh

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12600k is plenty

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also i suggest findin gpu first before anything

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then figure out the rest

tight sorrel
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ok, so 3090 is not a medium budget card.

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Threadripper 3970X is what you need to pair it with

obsidian wigeon
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lmao

livid cobalt
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🤦‍♂️

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I’m firm on 12900k

tight sorrel
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Why though?

obsidian wigeon
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if you want i won't stop ya

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it's your wallet, im just speaking of facts lel

rugged sparrow
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vague oracle
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Wut?

livid cobalt
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I would say $5000 is the maximum I could spend on this rig

rugged sparrow
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Hmmm that cpu just a tiny bit out of budget

fossil cedar
vague oracle
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Im losing brain cells from this, the guy wants a 12900k, it’s a great CPU that will last him a long time

livid cobalt
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Yep

vague oracle
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No point “recommending” meme cpus

obsidian wigeon
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but

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12600k does the same thing

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as well too lel

tight sorrel
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I would not buy 12900k, if you need a top end CPU, if go 5950X, on the other hand, if you want medium range, 12600k/12700k would be the way to go. However, the accompanying hardware for 12th gen is expensive. Ryzen you can pair with a B550 board and be perfectly happy.

fossil cedar
obsidian wigeon
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3090 would handle the heavy lifting of editing

vague oracle
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Athlon cpus do the same thing as the 12900k lol

obsidian wigeon
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that's not my point

vague oracle
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And he clearly isn’t doing a mid range build if his budget is 5k

obsidian wigeon
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but alright

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i'll just leave it

fossil cedar
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@livid cobalt are you in the us btw?

obsidian wigeon
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since im clearly not good for it i guess kek

livid cobalt
livid cobalt
fossil cedar
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Okay

fossil cedar
mossy venture
fossil cedar
livid cobalt
fossil cedar
haughty void
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any speed raelly

mossy venture
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Yes, I know that it runs with any speed of ddr4....

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Or ddr5

haughty void
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like you dont wanna pair with lower than 3000

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lower than 3000 is a waste

strong raft
obsidian wigeon
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holes

frank stirrup
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.png

haughty void
strong raft
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All dem holes. That PSU is gnarly.

haughty void
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oh

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how is that a Yikes tho

stoic island
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revolt pro still good

fossil cedar
little osprey
cosmic fjord
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Total noob here to potential PC gaming, tired of messing with console. Had a guy tell me to skip the 3060 series of video cards. The pc will be 95% used for FPS games

left cairn
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@mossy venture do you know if a ryzen 5 5600x will bottle neck the 2070 super

humble fossil
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hello

left cairn
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Hey what’s up

stoic island
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bottleneck wack

humble fossil
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What is the difference between 3080 ti or V2

stoic island
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it'll work fine

stoic island
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What specific model?

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is there some like ftw3 v2 or smth

humble fossil
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ASUS ROG Strix GeForce RTX™ 3080 V2 White OC Edition 10GB GDDR6X with LHR (PCIe 4.0, HDMI 2.1, DisplayPort 1.4a, Axial-tech Fan Design, 2.9-slot, Super Alloy Power)

ASUS TUF Gaming NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti OC Edition Graphics Card (PCIe 4.0, 12GB GDDR6X, HDMI 2.1, DisplayPort 1.4a, Dual Ball Fan Bearings, Military-Grade Certification, GPU Tweak II)

stoic island
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3080ti is a 3080ti
3080 is a 3080

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the v2 is probably just LHR

left cairn
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What is lhr

stoic island
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lite hash rate

left cairn
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And it does say with lhr

stoic island
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Yes, they like to change the name when they add LHR to the card

humble fossil
stoic island
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3080ti

left cairn
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To

stoic island
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because it is physically a better chip than 3080

left cairn
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Ti*

humble fossil
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thanks all

desert gulch
left cairn
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Also is the 2070 super better than 3060 and 3060ti or just 3060

stoic island
desert gulch
stoic island
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320bit vs 384bit is small improvement but well

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its not like 3060 with choked vram

desert gulch
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Yeah

left cairn
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Oh ok got it

stoic island
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2070 = 3060
2080s = 3060ti

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that's basically how it goes

left cairn
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Ok

cosmic fjord
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@mossy venture Looks look like it’s going to have to be $1300-$1700 considering the inflation of everything

mossy venture
cosmic fjord
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@mossy venture Probably go prebuilt because it’s my first endeavor

brave jetty
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Hello
does ASUS ROG Strix XG32VC have G-sync?

cosmic fjord
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@mossy venture Yeah I was peaking at both of those. Would you personally spend the extra $300-$400 to go from a 3060 to a 3070?

mossy venture
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3060 is around 2070 perf, 3060 ti is around 2080s

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It also depends on the rest of your setup

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And if 1700 includes monitor, keyboard and everything

#

If it does I'd go for the 3060 build and get a high refresh rate 1080p monitor as well as the rest of a pc setup

cosmic fjord
#

@mossy venture That’s another thing too lol. I’ve recently bought a LG C1 that I plan on using as the monitor but I did buy it with the info that it supposedly is the top tv right now being used as a monitor

potent portal
#

While that is probably the best tv/monitor right now be careful about oled burn in. You'll want to set your computer to turn off the monitor after 3-5 minutes of idle, any more and there's an increasing risk of the picture being burned in.

cosmic fjord
#

@potent portal yeah I’ve been pretty careful so far with it. It seems lg panels have come a long way in the last few years as far as burn in goes from what I’ve read.

potent portal
#

They have, but it's still a potential issue. Not nearly as bad as first gen.

cosmic fjord
#

The new game optimizer screen is pretty cool too.

#

@mossy venture The reviews on that 3060 ti setup seem overall pretty good

limber oyster
#

I wonder what people have to say about my post in #build-pics

limber oyster
#

Lol

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Don't worry only temp

#

I just wanted to see if it'd work

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And it did

dawn briar
#

I need help finding an A-RGB controller for my build

frank stirrup
#

Thats just parts tossed into a case

limber oyster
#

The GPU is still connected to motherboard

#

Still boots

#

I has proof

dawn briar
#

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HqwVt8
With everything total I will have an RGB AIO, 2 RGB SSD's, and possibly RGB watercooling parts down the line. My x570 Aorus Elite only has 2 5v and 2 12v but everything is powered off of 5v

frank stirrup
limber oyster
#

I did this for fun

#

I have a pic of what it looked like before if you want to see that too

frank stirrup
#

I dont know which one is worse tbh

drifting valley
#

Hi I bought parts for a gaming PC using the pc builder and while I am putting the parts together, I am not sure if the parts are compatible. Could you guys help?

#

Guess I assumed the PC builder would ensure compatibility

#

The mother board is gigabyte B550 gaming x and CPU is ryzen 5 1600

#

the memory is DDR4-3000

earnest olive
#

not compatible

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also, please don't buy a ryzen 5 1600 in 2021

#

unless you're getting it for less than $50

drifting valley
#

thanks, are both CPU and memory incompatible?

earnest olive
#

just cpu, but you really shouldn't buy 3000mhz ram either when 3200 and 3600 are so cheap now

drifting valley
#

ok thanks for your help

formal echo
#

What is the best graphic card I can get for 350 pounds

left cairn
#

1660 on newegg is like 354 pounds and is probably the best you can get

#

@formal echo but i would wait for others opinion

formal echo
#

Ty

limber oyster
#

Intel is supposed to be releasing "affordable" dedicated GPUs soon

fossil cedar
formal echo
#

Bro

left cairn
#

@visual bone where you finding 3060 for 500 lmk

formal echo
#

My friend says he is gonna get free 3060 cuz he gonna buy it from amazon and when it arrives he gonna refund it and the Gpu will stay

fossil cedar
fossil cedar
fossil cedar
formal echo
left cairn
#

they wont give you money till they receive it back

fossil cedar
#

@formal echo read the pins in #graphics-cards for where to look for gpus btw

formal echo
#

Oh sorry I didn't notice there is a room for it

fossil cedar
#

That's not the part i was tryna attract your attention to you can talk about almost all tech stuff here basically

fossil cedar
#

Np

cosmic fjord
#

Is it weird that it doesn’t have any HDD included?

fossil cedar
cosmic fjord
#

@fossil cedar What do you think of that particular build?

cosmic fjord
#

@fossil cedar I’ve never done open box for an item like this so I don’t really know the cons

visual sun
#

ok ik this will cause a uproare but whats the best way to install a radiator

#

front slot or top slot

#

does it even matter?

#

like my graphics card would be sending hot air into the radiator if its up top

#

nvm just relized front should be intake so it needs to be top slot

obsidian wigeon
#

best is top

#

just make sure the top of the radiator is above the block/pump

#

front is fine as long as that rule is followed

visual sun
#

ok soooo

#

my case barly fits it in the front and itst not above it

#

spent all this time trying to find how to make it fit

#

it wont

obsidian wigeon
#

well if it's not possible

#

then it's fine to put up with it

visual sun
#

top would be grate but i need 10mm more to clear my motherboard

#

do they make 15mm fans?

#

its a arctic liquid cooler 240

#

and im thinking use the 2 fans on it for the front intake and just get 15mm high insted of 25mm fants for the radiator to get me that 10mm

#

120x120 x15mm is what i need if its a thing? is it?

#

same draw and such of a standard pc 25mm fan

obsidian wigeon
#

there is

visual sun
#

nice!

obsidian wigeon
#

i can only think of noctua tho

visual sun
#

just individual fans right?

obsidian wigeon
#

a12x15

#

yep

#

they're brown, but chromax version is available

#

chromax is black

visual sun
#

black is good

#

same as curent ones

obsidian wigeon
#

thermalright has some

#

but idk how they perform

visual sun
#

noctua would have same standard plugs tho?

#

would the less tall fan effect push much?

#

should i just get a difrent cooler?

obsidian wigeon
#

it should be the same

visual sun
#

nice

obsidian wigeon
#

also no, not much

#

well check out arctic p12 slim

#

those apparently exist

visual sun
#

the bigger and thicker radiator should counter it im hopeing

#

ok

obsidian wigeon
#

get the pwm ones

visual sun
#

pmw 15mm fans?

obsidian wigeon
#

yep

#

or just go for the arctic p12 slim pwm

#

noctuas are expensive

visual sun
#

oh no XD ok ill see

obsidian wigeon
#

or better yet

#

pwm pst

#

so that you can daisy chain all 3 fans and use only one pwm header

#

wait i meant 2

#

it's a 240 lol

near garden
#

hello

visual sun
#

wait no the p12 ones are better

obsidian wigeon
#

yeah

visual sun
#

The radiator had the fans daziy chained i think

#

I probably will use that extra wire it had

obsidian wigeon
#

well

#

the daisy chaining only works with the pwm pst stuff

visual sun
#

Oh

#

Whats this then

obsidian wigeon
#

hm

#

well if it's from that rad

#

then it's fine

#

any fans will work

#

as long as they're pwm

#

not quite sure but probably should

#

it's simple stuff

visual sun
#

This is my first build XD part picker said it was all compatible

obsidian wigeon
#

f

visual sun
#

Yep XD

spring parrot
#

Is there any hope from r an R3 aurora 2009 dell system. I need to change both the motherboard and video cards but still get it to work with the rest of the hardware any hope?

jagged ember
#

probably not, considering it's dell...

#

but Im about to sleep so someone else answer this

earnest olive
#

2009? so core 2 duo?

#

good luck finding spare dell parts from that era

mossy venture
#

There's a 500$ 5600g build pato made if that's in budget

stark comet
#

Hey homies, which B550 MOBO would you guys recommend? Other components are R7 5800x and 16GB 3600 CL16. Its gonna be used mainly as a workstation/light gaming machine

fossil cedar
stark comet
#

I have a Tomahawk but I really don't like that it has a PS2 and random extra Gigabit LAN port

fossil cedar
#

Okay, I'll just name some then instead of linking them

stark comet
#

thanks so much!

fossil cedar
#

Budget option: msi pro vdh (wifi)
Higher end options: aorus pro(matx), aorus elite(matx), asus tuf(matx)(wifi), msi torpedo

stark comet
#

Cool! Thanks

I'm looking at the two Aorus boards actually. What are their differences cos i can't seem to find a concise comparison chart or something similar

fossil cedar
serene pulsar
#

Is this good deal for $800

fossil cedar
serene pulsar
#

Under 1000

#

And yes for a friend

fossil cedar
#

If they don't mind open box

serene pulsar
#

Under 1000$ is there any other good brands then ABS

fossil cedar
analog pulsar
#

What about ABS

#

🤔

fossil cedar
#

Only good one at that price range was open box

limber oyster
#

My brother put his micro ATX board into a Rosewill Thor v2 case

thorn wyvern
#

idk if this is any good

lyric thistle
#

I think it would seem reasonable to put your motherboard into a case

fossil cedar
thorn wyvern
#

@fossil cedar

fossil cedar
thorn wyvern
#

2250

fossil cedar
thorn wyvern
#

no

#

but a friend might be a scalper

#

who would sell it to me

fossil cedar
#

Right and what's the use of the pc?

thorn wyvern
#

gaming, video editing, etc

fossil cedar
#

Okay

thorn wyvern
#

nothing much more

#

and flexing\

wide sparrow
#

Hm

fossil cedar
analog pulsar
#

hi

thorn wyvern
frank stirrup
#

Ok pato how in the heck are you making lists while playing rainbow 6

potent portal
#

Waiting for lobbies on dual monitor? That's what I do

frank stirrup
#

I need a discord monitor

fossil cedar
potent portal
#

You can use phone as second monitor ya know

frank stirrup
#

Yeah but its so icky

#

And bad

sharp tundra
#

I have a question about Thubderbolt 3

#

Does the GPU have to have the Thunderbolt 3 connector or just the MOBO?

frank stirrup
#

Just the motherboard

#

Unless external gpu

potent portal
#

For an egpu?

sharp tundra
#

So I can use Thunderbolt 3 on my monitor by just plugging it into my motherboard?

#

Also, is it better than HDMI and DP?

frank stirrup
#

I would use displayport

frank stirrup
sharp tundra
#

Oh okay. I'll use display port then

wicked frigate
#

Can someone help with this

analog pulsar
wicked frigate
analog pulsar
#

your overclocked failed

sharp tundra
#

It would seem your OC has failed

frank stirrup
#

Press enter enable xmp and save and exit

wicked frigate
#

Ok wait

#

I have to restart pc

potent portal
#

I don't think it reset to defaults, so you'll need to do that first, then you can enable xmp, save and exit.

wicked frigate
#

And this

frank stirrup
potent portal
#

That's the monitor not liking the signal resolution/frequency

wicked frigate
#

Ok so

#

The problem

#

At the star was

frank stirrup
wicked frigate
#

That my fires gave me this 1030 to burrow and he sold it

frank stirrup
#

I always thought it does

wicked frigate
#

So I started my pc up and this happened

potent portal
frank stirrup
#

Ahh

#

Makes sense

wicked frigate
#

Yah

potent portal
#

Modern boards do the same, usually with memory overclocks you'll see it. "Memory overclock failed! Enter setup or reset to defaults?"

wicked frigate
#

So in this case what would o do

wicked frigate
#

Attack a different monitor

sharp tundra
#

I've been too spoiled when it comes to graphics

wicked frigate
#

Attach

sharp tundra
#

I used to have a 4k TV I'd play on, and I just got my 1440p monitor, and I can tell the difference

#

I'm kinda torn rn cause I spent $800 on this monitor. I should've just bought a 4k monitor.

wicked frigate
#

So should I try another monitor

potent portal
# wicked frigate So in this case what would o do

Is your monitor overclocked? First thing is to undo that if so
If not then it's just a quirk with the resolution, maybe it switches to PAL 50Hz 4:4 resolution momentarily and the monitor doesn't like that or something

wicked frigate
#

I can’t

#

Every time I turn on my pc

#

I can’t do anything

#

Tried to click the menu button on the monitor

#

Can’t do anything

potent portal
#

Then yes you'll need to put another monitor at least temporarily so you can fix it

wicked frigate
#

Ok

#

How would I fix my old monitor

#

?

sharp tundra
#

Wait... I lowered my settings and somehow made it look better?

potent portal
#

See if it does the same thing with other devices, switch cables/ports, delete custom resolution profiles (if any)

wicked frigate
#

Wait so do I just put the old monitor connected to another pc

potent portal
#

That works, or a game console or something

#

That way you can see if it's just dead

strong raft
#

@limber oyster
That's why i re moved my hdd cage, blocks ton of airflow. Rotating 90º works too. Build looks decent 👍

limber oyster
#

@strong raft for which pic?

#

The one I just sent?

strong raft
#

Ya.

limber oyster
#

HDD cage can't be easily removed

#

It's riveted in

limber oyster
#

I'm not drilling my brothers case

strong raft
#

Lol, I did this 1st thing. I hear ya. FLIP PSU & mobo cable might reach going through the access hole & behind. Although, maybe not.

#

Either that case is huge or the mobo is tiny, I don't get it, lol

limber oyster
#

It's a micro ATX board

#

In a Rosewill Thor v2 case

strong raft
#

Neat

limber oyster
#

Yeah

#

Too bad 230mm case fans are no longer sold

#

Wait...nvm they are

#

Oh well, don't really NEED one

strong raft
#

I've seen a couple cases w / 2 huge 200ish mm fans in front. Looks rad. I'd prefer that over 120-140

wicked frigate
#

@potent portal

jagged ember
#

keep in mind those are only good for airflow

wicked frigate
#

My other monitor works

jagged ember
#

if any kind of mesh or other thing is in the way

wicked frigate
#

But how do I fix the old one?

jagged ember
#

there's gonna be a lot less

#

cause low static pressure

lyric thistle
#

this is why I bow down to arctic p14

potent portal
strong raft
wicked frigate
#

Umm I didn’t check

#

Wait

#

@potent portal

#

It does

#

The old one work with my other pc

#

New pc

potent portal
# wicked frigate It does

Ok, try turning the old computer on without the monitor attached, then after roughly 10 seconds plug the monitor in. See if it still doesn't work.

wicked frigate
#

Ok

#

No

#

Didn’t work

#

Wait is it because

#

I took out the gpu form this pc

#

And am using inter grated

potent portal
#

Possibly
You can try using DDU to reset all the display drivers

wicked frigate
#

How?

potent portal
#

Run that from safe mode, check all the options for your gpu brand

#

In this case that's both the old gpu brand and your integrated graphics brand

wicked frigate
#

Wait

#

It’s telling me to install something

#

But I can’t because that’s the signal that pops up

potent portal
#

You said the other monitor was working right? Use that

wicked frigate
#

Oh ok

#

But do you know why this is happening?

#

Once I got the bios screen to show up

weak yarrow
#

i want to crank up my oc a bit. rn my vram is on 2100 so i think its good. i just want to uptick the gcpu

wicked frigate
#

Never mind I fixed it

#

Never mind it doesn’t I don’t honk

#

Think

#

This is what I did

#

I plug my other monitor in changed the display setting resolution

#

Than plied the old monitor in it worked than I restarted it and now it doesn’t work

weak yarrow
#

F

formal girder
#

what kind of capture card would yall recommend for a xbox 360 to pc recording

silent notch
#

Looking to build a budget PC ($300-$400) for my workshop. Need it to run programs like Lightburn, Affinity Designer/Photo and 3D printing software. Will a CPU with integrated graphics be able to handle that? Already have setup that I do all my initial work on, and don’t want to move it into my dusty shop. Just need this PC to be able to process the jobs to the equipment.

vernal night
lyric thistle
lofty tundra
#

I only need sata cable for the one hdd right? The ssd's are powered by the mobo?

#

M.2 ssds

flint sapphire
#

M.2 ssds don’t need any cables

desert gulch
#

he asked if he only needed one sata cable for his one hdd

#

since his other m.2's are powered by mobo

flint sapphire
#

Then states the ssd’s are powered by the mobo? Then specifically m.2

#

It was in the form of a question so why not answer sadge

lofty tundra
#

uhh so what is the answer?

flint sapphire
#

You only need one sata cable for the Hdd. The NVMe ssd doesn’t need a cable

lofty tundra
#

aight

#

I have hdd and mobo to put in then I'm pretty much finished other than trying to figure out where a few front panel connectors go.

#

hdd and psu*

flint sapphire
#

You’ll get it eventually front panel is a pain ssadge

flint sapphire
desert gulch
#

its confusing lol

little osprey
#

what ram speed should you get for ddr4 12600k?

stoic island
#

3600c16 good nuff

little osprey
#

bet

#

when are b660 boards coming out?

stoic island
#

No idea

limber oyster
#

Does anyone know what vertical GPU mount fits into a Antec df600 flux case?

humble fossil
#

hi

potent portal
#

RF receiver
Possibly with Rasperry Pi

humble fossil
#

ok

#

how i can do this ??

potent portal
#

It won't be easy and you'll need programming and engineering skills

humble fossil
#

ok

jagged ember
#

if you're still interested, you could google key words to figure out how to do it

potent portal
#

Yeah, the first step is figuring out how to program an IR/RF remote and receiver, which should also tell you what hardware you need

jagged ember
#

ha

#

totally

#

computer boot car key or something idk

jagged ember
#

I can already boot pc from my phone

potent portal
#

Given that it's only a tiktok video it's probably fake and they have a remote switch, but it's possible is the takeaway here

jagged ember
#

so I basically can do that already

potent portal
#

WoL doesn't count 😛

jagged ember
#

:(

desert gulch
#

I doubt it's faked

potent portal
#

Fair 'nuf

#

But seems like a lot of work for just a short video

desert gulch
#

True

potent portal
#

But hey, I'm just the guy with no social media presence

jagged ember
#

more explanation

#

steps to do it

potent portal
#

Yeah a longer video could showcase the "how" part much better

little osprey
frank stirrup
#

And be cool

#

And use ur phone to switch on pc

#

Like me

muted geode
#

so pictured is my pc tower and it's airflow (arrows indicate direction air is directed)
I feel like I can improve my airflow somehow. Any suggestions?

potent portal
#

Flip the top to exhaust

#

If you really want positive pressure run the front fans faster than the exhaust fans

muted geode
glossy quest
#

I can't send a photo but it's pretty difficult to explain my issue with build

potent portal
#

The idea is to help the air move in a way that is natural. Heat rises, so top exhaust is natural.

#

90 degree turns... are not natural

lofty tundra
#

How am i supposed to pull the power cord for the mobo through? I pulled it through the middle thing even tho it’s a fatty but i think it is supposed to be flipped and doesn’t really turn much.

potent portal
#

Looking at you nzxt

potent portal
lofty tundra
#

Nvm got it

potent portal
lofty tundra
#

I should get a strimmer tho

lofty tundra
#

Also does it matter first time turning on and running non intensive programs if one of my fans isn’t screwed in all the way yet? Other than noise? Because i think the holes were a little off so was going to find or borrow and electric screwdriver and force them in on this one.

potent portal
#

Besides noise, short term effects are minimal. But don't leave it like that too long.

little osprey
#

no filter ?

potent portal
#

Filter doesn't matter on exhaust fans

muted geode
little osprey
#

perforations good enough

muted geode
#

there is a filter but I cant put it there if there are fans :(

#

actually

#

imma try rq

little osprey
#

the dust will just pile up

potent portal
#

You'd only be filtering air that's already been filtered too

muted geode
#

yeah ok fair

#

either way it fits but just sits there lol

lofty tundra
#

@potent portal think im ready to try turning her on. Notice any glaring issues before i do?

potent portal
#

I wouldn't run it for more than a couple seconds without a cooler. If you're just seeing if it turns on and then cutting the power, that's fine.

muted geode
#

where gpu

potent portal
#

Intel chip
GPU is built in

muted geode
#

so no card?

potent portal
#

It's just a dry run, no need for now

muted geode
#

fair

lofty tundra
#

It’s that bad without cooler? I can’t run basic things like windows and non intensive things? Also yeah going to pull 1080 out of prebuilt in a few days and stick it in until i can get a 30 series card.

potent portal
#

You can't even get into bios long enough to enable xmp before it shuts off for thermal safety limit

lofty tundra
#

Oh fuu I can of needed this for school. I already messed up my prebuilt. Great..

muted geode
#

damn didnt realize cpus run so hot

potent portal
#

Booting Windows is not an easy thing for processors, it's a heavy all core workload

muted geode
#

so technically we wouldnt be able to use this tech without exorbitant cooling

lofty tundra
#

I wasn’t going to game but yeah i thought it could handle minimal tasks.

muted geode
#

just blow on it lol

jagged hill
#

not a pc build but a peripheral but here's the art piece for my fightstick, bottom panel

lofty tundra
#

But yeah i supposed install or heavy updates on windows would be intensive.

jagged hill
#

posted the top panel in the electronics channel

potent portal
#

Not so much that you need "exorbitant" cooling, you only need high end stuff to have the cpu boost above base clocks for extended time

jagged hill
#

sorry this was the chat not pics

potent portal
#

lol it happens

jagged hill
#

but yeah i decided it would be easier to put artwork on the bottom not top

#

next is more pc side panel art

#

and not related to the clovenix one

lofty tundra
#

@potent portal so should I hook up a monitor for a second and turn it on then off right away? Or even bother with the monitor and just on and off and see if it powers?

potent portal
#

Monitor isn't needed, but you could see if it shows a picture and then hit the power button again to shut it off real quick

#

And whatever you do don't touch the cpu, it can and will give you third degree burns

#

Just a friendly reminder that 100C is the boiling point of water

lofty tundra
#

It didn’t start..

#

So now idk wtf is wrong with it.

muted geode
#

like nothing on at all?

potent portal
#

It's probably the front panel wiring, from experience

#

Can't tell you how many times I've wired a reset to the power kekw

muted geode
#

oh god lmao

lofty tundra
#

Nvm

#

It runs!!

#

I just forgot to flip on the power on the case.

muted geode
#

oh

#

xd

potent portal
#

That would have been my second guess lol

strong raft
#

Pic answered my question of where the PSU was, lol. That case iS THICCC! Which is it? Well, only look that stood out to me besides no cpu hsf is the fans being on the side instead of normal front blowing across mobo.

halcyon spindle
#

I never type in here so I can’t post a pic of the PC I built today

strong raft
#

you could lay it over and literally just set a heatsink on the cpu, they're a good couple lbs so would still pull some heat off.

halcyon spindle
#

Sadge

potent portal
lofty tundra
#

Its lian li O11 dynamic case.

muted geode
#

that boi expensive

humble fossil
#

@little osprey@frank stirrup thanks all

potent portal
#

You know why? This

muted geode
#

actually im using a 5000D I cant say anything kekw

potent portal
#

One of the top overclockers in the world helped design that case

strong raft
#

oh i see, O11 and a similar 1 or 2 have interesting fan placement.

muted geode
#

yeah my case has room for 3 side fans like that if i wanted to

#

not sure how necessary that'd be for me though lol

flint sapphire
#

The German man overclocks extremely well

potent portal
#

He tends to top every 3dmark chart, and by a wide margin

#

A level of engineering understanding I could never hope to achieve

muted geode
#

interesting

potent portal
#

Let alone reverse engineering

strong raft
potent portal
#

You want the less mini version of the mini? Interesting phrasing lol

strong raft
#

yea maybe haha, perhaps call it "The Short", or The Short mini? Yeah it's funny we don't even use drive cages anymore really.

potent portal
#

A lot of people don't even use the 2.5" or 3.5" drive sleds either, just 100% M.2

strong raft
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Good to see some sub-$200 LL cases though. I used to see them as super rad but expensive. --- mhm, big m.2 perk is no cables. At this point I have dual TB WD Blue's (1 olc Win7 os, 1 data/games , a 1TB MX500 sata, & a 250GB MX500. lul

potent portal
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By this point in time SSDs have gotten so reliable that they're likely to be the longest lived part in your system besides other non-moving parts like heatsinks

strong raft
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ok sweet, the game drive showed up. Had to install marvell drivers even as smart as Win 10 is. --- Oh, seems SSD"s actually live a long time, but how does 1 do if it's powered off a long time like a HDD, cold storage I guess we'd call it.

potent portal
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I've been using my boot drive for 5 years now I think, and it still reports... 89% life

frank stirrup
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Bios is about all you can run without cooler

potent portal
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23k power on hours

frank stirrup
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Booting into an OS is pretty heavy on a cpu

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To run without cooler

strong raft
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I'll add that we see how hot a cpu runs w/ the basic crap stock coolers. W/ nothing, could cook a sausage on there!

potent portal
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I've seen someone cook kobe beef on a cpu

frank stirrup
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I ran my cpu on stock cooler for half a year and it was fine tbf

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But then again 3600x comes with a great cooler

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flint sapphire
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flint sapphire
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Paste/liquid metal

frank stirrup
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Der8auer too op for thermal paste

potent portal
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Depends on the cpu, but often liquid metal ya

flint sapphire
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Or kryonaut

potent portal
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Yeah, if you get liquid metal too cold it's just metal kekw

flint sapphire
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Nah his gf/wife applies it like perfectly

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It’s honestly impressive

frank stirrup
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He does direct die a lot too

frank stirrup
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Gib

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I wa see

flint sapphire
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I’d have to find one I’m at work look it up yourself 👀

frank stirrup
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Grrrrr

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potent portal
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Out of curiosity I checked my second, newer M.2 drive smart data. It's got 11k power on hours and still reports 100% life

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10.5TBW

strong raft
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I keep reading tbw like putting 10GB on per day and then they say the lifespan. I suppose a whole drive clone is no issue even though you're doing 500+ GB in 1 day

potent portal
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TBW can refer to TeraBytes Written or Total Bytes Written depending on who you ask. It doesn't even factor in anything else, it's just the endurance of the flash cells.

strong raft
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exactly. yikes, 12 count power on but only 6 hrs. from all the restarts I guess, no big deal.

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like that temp? it's 2" from the upper front fan. wth, the HDD is 21C

potent portal
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Ambient temp is gud

strong raft
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Yep, pretty chilly tonight.

potent portal
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I went and did math again. I need to stop that late at night.
In order to get my TBW where it is I needed to write the entire capacity of the drive 41 times over.

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Meaning my flash cells can handle A LOT of writes, if it hasn't even ticked down 1% yet

strong raft
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idk, but I did see that 10TBW. Sounds crazy on a 256GB drive, mainly in how much you re-downloaded stuff or something. Nice. You think 1TB* ssd for os/boot is pointless? Should that be a secondary drive for same reasons as small SSD + large HDD?

potent portal
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It depends on how you use the pc honestly

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For me, a small, fast boot drive, a second small, fast drive for games I need to load in a snap, then a third, slower SSD for bulk games, and then a HDD array for media and data. That's my current and ideal setup. No need for more.

strong raft
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1 thought was the 1tb mx500 would be for future new pc, but a z590/690 setup might as well have nvme so scratch that. Wow, 4 drives total. Althought it makes sense how you said it. --- I could almost do the same, but still have dual 1TB WD blues to put to use.

potent portal
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Average users on the other hand, don't usually know how to save things anywhere but the default locations so everything should be centrally located on a single C: drive

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It's actually 6 drives btw, it's a HDD array in raid5

humble fossil
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hi

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Cooler Master MCM-H500P-WGNN-S00 MasterCase Mesh White ATX Mid-Tower w/Front Mesh Ventilation, 2x 200mm RGB Fans, Tempered Glass Side Panel And 2x Vertical GPU Card PCI Slots

I want someone to explain to me the dimensions of the fans, please