Jays thumbnail makes it look like best thing since sliced bread too lol
#building-and-recc-chat
fossil cedar
worn wave
It's somewhat of a neat idea but at the same time just buy your own parts and watch youtube video...
There's hundreds of written guides and videos
worn wave
It's only $100 more for the build kit
That added cost is only the toolkit and booklet then?
earnest olive
Jays thumbnail makes it look like best thing since sliced bread too lol
jay moment
fossil cedar
It's only $100 more for the build kit
100$ more than a prebuilt 
fossil cedar
Still tho
worn wave
fossil cedar
Prebuilts marked up cuz they build for you lol
worn wave
Still crappy pre-built
fossil cedar
Bet they have 3060s
teal musk
Need a little more help guys
Got the MSI mag 240r cooler
There’s a splitter with it that plugs into the cpu fan slot and then connects the two 120mm fans. Except one of the splitters has 3 prongs the other has 4…. Is this a defect do I need to return it?
versed rock
No.
stoic island
The 4th pin is PWM, you can only take the PWM signal from one fan to report to the motherboard through that header
teal musk
Got it thank you
Idk why but when I did this like 8 years ago it seemed more simple lol
versed rock
What is simpler is just using an Air Cooler
teal musk
Too late friend talked me into the water cooler lol
versed rock
It's not too late
teal musk
Yes it is
versed rock
You can just return the water cooler
versed rock
You can always just uninstall it.
teal musk
Why would I waste the time when it’s already done lol
teal musk
Next question the pump or whatever that’s supposed to plug into the pump fan has 3 female end and the cpu has 4 male. Is that right also?
versed rock
Probably is correct.
teal musk
I7 11700K
teal musk
Idc it’s aesthetic lol
versed rock
Slap an NH-D15 or a Scythe Fuma 2 and you'll probably get 90% the same thermals.
An aesthetic that could eventually leak or die
And then bye-bye CPU
Or whole PC if the leak is bad enough.
teal musk
I guess sucks to suck at that point
versed rock
There's no way it NEEDS a Liquid Cooler though.
stoic island
this is all you need to see :D
I feel that it's nearly necessary if you want to maintain boost clocks
sure it'll be just fine if you let it drop down to base clocks
versed rock
I don't think that MSI 240mm AIO is enough though.
topaz kestrel
Maybe they just have money and like the look of it?
stoic island
Maybe they just have money and like the look of it?
we're discussing performance though
anyways finding benches atm
topaz kestrel
we're discussing performance though
It will work fine, he said it was for aesthetic reasons anyways
His choice if he wants to risk leaks etc
stoic island
I don't care if they grab it or not, I'm talking to skiptrace about performance of aio and power draw of 11700k >:P
frank stirrup
11700k can get really quite hot
even at stock?
Oh 11700k
yeah thats a toasty boy
stoic island
nearly 300w avx load
frank stirrup
still easier to cool than a 5800x tho
stoic island
I guess this is the only real review of the 240r we have so far......
versed rock
On what CPU?
topaz kestrel
I’d imagine on the one you are speaking about..
frank stirrup
just a comparison to other coolers on not an 11700k is my guess
versed rock
^
frank stirrup
but you can get a temp review of one of the coolers its compared to and extrapolate
versed rock
A 3600? kek
frank stirrup
ahh nvm
versed rock
My 3600 stays a cool 60C with my Mugen 5
stoic island
we got computerbase.de with some more actual data here
versed rock
I'm tempted to upgrade to a Fuma 2 just so I can have the Fuma 2 for AM4+ or AM5
stoic island
red is 360r
one of the blue is z63
one of the blue is h115i
one of the blue is h150i
black is d15
orange is mugen 5
Left is temperature above ambient
Bottom is sound pressure in dba
frank stirrup
Watch AM5+ follow AM5
stoic island
They have always done a + after a normal letter
except zen 3
versed rock
Yes, but I'm talking sockets
frank stirrup
4000series
not really zen2 + but kinda?
versed rock
Wtf
stoic island
and then threadripper is weird
stoic island
fun
frank stirrup
tr4 and str4 iirc
frank stirrup
right
versed rock
Looks like it's AM5 according to Wikipedia?
frank stirrup
whats am5
versed rock
The next AMD Desktop Socket.
stoic island
it's wikipedia tbf
frank stirrup
Oh thats common knowledge at this point tho
lotta leaks saying its am5
Id be very surprised if they called it am4+ after switching frpm pga to lga
thats a massive difefernce
versed rock
Wait, the next socket for AMD is going to be LGA?
stoic island
I think we still don't know if AMD will get pcie 5.0 for next gen
versed rock
Is PCIe 5.0 ready for prime time?
stoic island
Intel should get pcie 5.0 next gen
versed rock
Jesus
frank stirrup
tbh consumers dont really need pcie 5... Nothing in the consumer space can saturate a pcie 4 link yet
versed rock
We haven't even really hit the limits of PCIe 4.0 in terms of GPUs
frank stirrup
the only real application for pcie4 is in workstations or servers
versed rock
Yeah, I see no real reason for them to move to PCIe 5.0 until like, 2 more generations out
Now, DDR5?
Move to that ASAP
On-Die Error Correction is going to be real nice.
And the stupid fast speeds should benefit Ryzen a LOT
frank stirrup
On-Die Error Correction is going to be real nice.
I dont see that being very useful either for most people
versed rock
It (should) reduce Memory Overclocking issues, and maybe a couple of BSOD's
frank stirrup
And the stupid fast speeds should benefit Ryzen a LOT
I mean 5400mts ram kits exist in ddr4... ryzen is very held back by fclk limits
little osprey
the only real application for pcie4 is in workstations or servers
but more faster = more better 
jaunty inlet
Hey y'all Im a gamer with a 1800 dollar budget for a new build any suggestions
stoic island
On die ecc doesn't really do that much tbh
frank stirrup
On die ecc doesn't really do that much tbh
yeah
stoic island
Like ecc in general is only something that might help workstation users but just on die ecc does even less :p
jaunty inlet
ty
teal musk
This is for the case fan. I unplugged everything without looking. What goes to what… lol
teal musk
For sys fan?
worn wave
Yes
worn wave
You dont need to use that
teal musk
Okay
worn wave
That's to power it using Molex which is a older connector and not used much anymore
teal musk
So do I ONLY need to plug the sys fan in?
worn wave
Correct, the brown connector
teal musk
Sweet thanks man
potent portal
You can also chain another fan to the white one next to the brown
rugged spear
Given that Manufacture's Suggested Retail Price for AMD Radeon RX 6600 are $329, do you think an unopened box of PowerColor AMD Radeon RX 6600 Fighter Card 8GB GDDR6 for $461.00 is a good deal; worthy of an upgrade for my current AMD Radeon RX 580 8GB, in this day and age?
||(Yes, I'm very indecisive)||
mossy venture
Given that Manufacture's Suggested Retail Price for *AMD Radeon RX 6600* are **$...
Not the worst price considering the market
Your card is going for around 350-450 last time I checked
Since miners love it
rugged spear
Does the vender/supplier make any difference to the GPU? I've never even heard of Powercolor Fighter before...
stoic island
Kind of, but powercolor, sapphire, and xfx are all reputable companies, they just only make AMD cards and not Nvidia cards.
rugged spear
Huh. I didn't know. I only knew Sapphire because that was the first GPU that I've ever bought.
Thank you!
@mossy venture@stoic island
mossy venture
Thank you!
<@!654444344274845698><@!278694081440251905>
👍
stoic island
:)
stiff halo
Hi. So I’m trying to remove the metal panel (the opposite side of the glass panel) so I can see the connections but after removing the screws it’s still not coming off. Am I doing something wrong?
Rose will spectra d100
topaz kestrel
@stiff halo it might be a slide not a pull off
stiff halo
Oh god you’re right @topaz kestrel
topaz kestrel
Oh god you’re right <@555420186430406696>
np lol
stiff halo
Found it. Where do I connect hdd to?
topaz kestrel
Found it. Where do I connect hdd to?
the sata cable?
if you mean sata cable, 1 end goes into your motherboard and 1 into the hdd
but if you mean mounting the hdd
there is probably a cage at the bottom
stiff halo
I’d have to dm I can’t send pics here
topaz kestrel
aight
earnest olive
Given that Manufacture's Suggested Retail Price for *AMD Radeon RX 6600* are **$...
yes, just scalp your card for 350 and then it's a pretty cheap upgrade
little osprey
IT HAS ARRIVED
Im gonna do some thermal tests on it, then probably lap it since Ive already got my sandpaper set up for another cpu im lapping
desert gulch
IT HAS ARRIVED
How'd you screw up your last CPU?
little osprey
the 5820k?
It died after I pulled out a dimm while the system was running the SCP foundation confiscated it for being able to hit 10GHz at 1.1V
desert gulch
Wait that's what your dumb mistake was when you also fried that ballistix?
little osprey
yup
desert gulch
Damn
little osprey
The motherboard still works fine and so do my other 2 dimms + and extra 2 from another kit that I had
desert gulch
Just too impatient to wait and power off?
real geyser
Huh. I didn't know. I only knew Sapphire because that was the first GPU that I'v...
sapphire is great!
best AMD AIB
but powercolor and XFX aren't bad either
teal musk
Is this okay for the right orange tab to be hanging off like that?
Like out of the slot
sharp tangle
yo idk if im ever gonna get a gpu, yall know of any good quality prebuilts with a 3070 for around 2k? just to keep in the back of my mind in case i just say screw it
mossy venture
yo idk if im ever gonna get a gpu, yall know of any good quality prebuilts with ...
ABS on newegg
i cant look rn
but theres plenty
sharp tangle
ABS on newegg
bet ty
open gazelle
Hey everyone - I have a build budget max of $500 - was wondering if an Acer XV272u would be okay, or an AOC CG27G2 27" and then just get a super cheap 60hz monitor
For the second monitor that is.
stoic island
Hey everyone - I have a build budget max of $500 - was wondering if an Acer XV27...
like 500$ budget for monitor...?
open gazelle
Yeah - would be for two monitors
I wanted to also include a keyboard, but I was thinking maybe with the super cheap 60hz monitor I'd have enough to get a decent keyboard
stoic island
so you want 2 monitors?
open gazelle
Yeah
cerulean root
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sRZRZZ
im about to order some things from this, any upgrades yall can think of?
im waiting to buy ssd (cuz im broke) and i has gpu that will work for now
stoic island
Yeah - would be for two monitors
Go M27q and grab a cheapo 60hz panel, and a keychron keeb
open gazelle
@stoic island Ideally for a user that's an artist, should I be looking an IPS or VA panels?
stoic island
IPS
stoic island
<@!278694081440251905> Ideally for a user that's an artist, should I be looking ...
Grab a M27q out of all monitors mentioned so far, m27q good colors
open gazelle
Gigabyte?
stoic island
ye
wispy matrix
@cerulean root either or the cpu or case
stoic island
oh yea psu can be better @cerulean root
cerulean root
suggustions?
stoic island
could do cx650 for 70$ or a-gf 750w for 90$
wispy matrix
i was thinking that or a msi
cerulean root
could do cx650 for 70$ or a-gf 750w for 90$
a 3060 should have about 650w?
cerulean root
yea
wispy matrix
i think so
cerulean root
a 3060 should have about 650w psu
stoic island
I mean 3060 only draws like 200w by itself
you can get away with 550w psu easily imo
cerulean root
I mean 3060 only draws like 200w by itself
also a 3060 ti?
wispy matrix
but then you have the cpu aswell
cerulean root
idk what ima get yet
cerulean root
k
stoic island
also a 3060 ti?
also basically the same
cerulean root
the cosair one was 85$
stoic island
the cosair one was 85$
70$ on wegg with an additional 20$ MIB
https://www.newegg.com/corsair-cx-series-cx650-650w/p/N82E16817139200
wispy matrix
mib?
cerulean root
mail in rebate i believe
wispy matrix
they work everywhere]
wispy matrix
well depending on the site you get it from
cerulean root
70$ on wegg with an additional 20$ MIB
https://www.newegg.com/corsair-cx-series-...
here
teal musk
It’s cycling through 40s and 50s is this normal when installing apps?
coarse mesa
Okay, I've included the b560m
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/vBM93Z How's this, don't have a GPU yet but probably am gonna go with the 1660 but ik that's overpriced so idk
potent portal
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/vBM93Z How's this, don't have a GPU yet but pro...
Looks decent to me, I'd get this memory though if you can do the extra $12. https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/2TFKHx/crucial-ballistix-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-bl2k8g36c16u4b
coarse mesa
What change does it make? In any case my CPU can only support up to 2666mhz
potent portal
It supports much higher than that, that's just the official jedec spec
coarse mesa
I'm probably buying this one Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory
potent portal
That's why you want B560 instead of B460, the newer B560 allows memory overclocking
coarse mesa
mhm
coarse mesa
That's why you want B560 instead of B460, the newer B560 allows memory overclock...
Anything wrong with this though? https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/p6RFf7/corsair-memory-cmk16gx4m2b3200c16
potent portal
Anything wrong with this though? https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/p6RFf7/cors...
It's fine. Not great but it'll work.
stoic island
ouch is all I can say
potent portal
Is this worth to buy off StockX
No way is a 3060 ti worth more than the msrp of the 3080
novel plank
I’m tired of waiting lol
stoic island
pretty sure r/hws scalpers sell for lower than that
potent portal
Yes they do, and there's microcenter that frequently has AMD cards in stock if you're near there
stoic island
Anything wrong with this though? https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/p6RFf7/cors...
corsair memory wacky&often sucky
novel plank
Is there a sight I can buy a cheaper 3060 ti
novel plank
Cause my monitor is gsync and plus I got every part I need accept gpu
I have had my parts for almost a year now
potent portal
Yeah, what monitor is it specifically?
Odds are it's actually freesync marketed as Gsync compatible, like Mr1111 said
novel plank
It’s a asus vg248 165 hz and 0.5ms
obsidian wigeon
that one definitely doesn't have gsync
potent portal
Not at that price, no
potent portal
True Gsync monitors run over $500
obsidian wigeon
^
little osprey
gsync monitors have always been a bit pricey 😔
stoic island
'true' g sync is wacky
flint sapphire
True gsync is uh it’s really good (totally not because I own a monitor with it)
stoic island
do you already own it or
flint sapphire
I own a monitor with true gsync
clever eagle
bruh so expensive
clever eagle
yes
limber solstice
I cant afford i only have 3,000 😔
cerulean root
bruh so expensive
wow, if only i had more money 😦
clever eagle
lol
cerulean root
bruh so expensive
i wanna buy this so bad and see what happens
it will prolly be a box with a picture of a 3090 in it
limber solstice
it will prolly be a box with a picture of a 3090 in it
Or boxed air
analog pulsar
@limber solstice you have to talk in here if you wanna talk about #build-pics
analog pulsar
Yea so I didn't see what ypu posted in #build-pics bc it got deleted
limber solstice
Yea so I didn't see what ypu posted in <#574740748801540107> bc it got deleted
I said it was fire
analog pulsar
Lol
analog pulsar
No
limber solstice
my message descinegrated
upbeat venture
no it's about my pc and gaming journey
that's why
(pretty much the journey it took for me to get to the point to which i am at now)
analog pulsar
bad word in username
i didnt even see that
upbeat venture
ngl i don't getr how another word for excrement is that bad
vale storm
oooo
So, here is my question,
Originally, I wanted to match a core i7 with a GIGABYTE H310M A LGA 1151 (300 Series)
But that motherboard has horrible feedback and only one fan port.
mossy venture
10400f>
vale storm
What's your recommendation?
mossy venture
10th gen or 11th gen i5
obsidian wigeon
Ryzen 5000 series and Intel 10/11th gen is good choice
mossy venture
Depending on what gpu you're going with
obsidian wigeon
For ryzen B550, B560 for Intel
vale storm
I am not looking to go above 1.4K
mossy venture
Yeah or 5000 series but since you were gonna go for a 9th gen i7 I'm guessing you're not going with a top tier gpu
vale storm
Well, since I am limited, I am going with a GTX 1650
mossy venture
Would you be OK with a pre built? Or are you set on building yourself
Oh hell nah
Wait
obsidian wigeon
Honestly, prebuilts are best bet
mossy venture
Check this out on @Newegg: ABS Master Gaming PC - Intel i5 10400F - GeForce RTX 3060 Ti - 16GB DDR4 3000MHz - 512GB M.2 NVMe SSD https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali568/p/N82E16883360198?Item=N82E16883360198&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-83-360-198-_-10212021
obsidian wigeon
yep
cooler might need swap tho
cause it sure is oof
but as is, it's just fine too
mossy venture
Oh is the budget 1.4k cad?
vale storm
yeah, capped at 1.5k
mossy venture
Can you give me a link to newegg canada?
mossy venture
vale storm
Looks pretty good.
mossy venture
The heatsink might need a replace and you might need more storage
versed rock
Personally i'd case swap that.
That front looks like basically no air can get into the case.
mossy venture
Yeah not the best airflow good point
vale storm
Not your favorite year, huh
versed rock
Prebuilts are the only way to get a reasonably priced GPU
mossy venture
If you dont feel like changing case or anything there's this https://www.newegg.ca/abs-computer-technologies-ali416/p/N82E16883102994
You'll get much better value from a pre build
Much better
mossy venture
3060 is still better choice imo
Yeah but it's top of the budget before case, storage, and heatsink replacement
versed rock
Normally I'd choke myself to death before saying "Prebuilts are Good" but, in this era of bad GPU prices, I have to say that Prebuilts are good.
vale storm
Let me worry about the GPU.
vale storm
Plenty of money, just capping myself to 1.5K because I want to build it.
vale storm
Once I build it, I'll probably give it to my little brother and go with a 3k build.
versed rock
...
mossy venture
B560 for mobo
vale storm
Maybe later.
mossy venture
Pain
versed rock
Please, do your sanity a favor and just buy a prebuilt.
Maybe case swap it if you feel like it's too hot.
versed rock
You're going to spend like, a LOT of hours of your time trying to find a GPU in the first place.
It just isn't worth it.
vale storm
I have a friend that owns a store, all good.
That's why I am saying don't worry about that.
I just want to know what's compatible and what is not.
mossy venture
Before you buy a gpu check with us first, please
Just to make sure the price is ok
vale storm
Sounds good.
versed rock
Just use pcpartpicker.com to check compatibility
mossy venture
For the rest of the pc I'd reccomend a 10400, b560 mobo (exactl model idk), 2x8gb 3200mhz cl16-18 ram
mossy venture
Yeah
Cause you don't have a rank yet
You'll have to talk more and eventually you'll rank up
vale storm
What about links?
mossy venture
Nah
Same thing
Pato and rawr are great at parts list
Me not so much
Theyre both offline rn
vale storm
o
mossy venture
@lyric thistle you've any clue?
vale storm
Also, if I do order everything, how long do they take for shipping.
versed rock
¯_(ツ)_/¯
mossy venture
It varies
versed rock
That all depends on who you buy your parts from.
mossy venture
Also keep in mind some places will have cheaper parts than newegg
mossy venture
https://tenor.com/view/popcorns-crackhead-eating-popcorn-food-junk-gif-14546221
I hate this
So much
vale storm
I can hear the crunching from here.
vale storm
Also keep in mind some places will have cheaper parts than newegg
Fair point.
mossy venture
crunch
lyric thistle
what's up
mossy venture
Are you good with parts lists?
lyric thistle
¯_(ツ)_/¯
vale storm
lmao
lyric thistle
budget and expectations?
mossy venture
1500 cad
They'll worry about the gpu they're saying
I figured a 10400 and b560
What model mobo idk
lyric thistle
I've played around mostly with 500 usd or less budget but I'll try to make one
vale storm
1500 CAD is 1.2K USD.
mossy venture
1500 CAD is 1.2K USD.
Talking msrp I'd aim for a 3060 ti but any 30 series you can get for msrp is good
Just for God's sake don't pair a 3080 with a 10400 at 1080p
lyric thistle
everyone is dumb 😎
mossy venture
I saw someone pair a 3090 with an 8400
At 1440p too, not even 4k
lyric thistle
man what happened to ssd prices
vale storm
everyone is dumb 😎
Let me know if you come up with anything.
lyric thistle
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/M83ZsX so here's what I came up with
doesn't include gpu and I'm just using prices it gives me because my relevant knowledge of prices has expired
basically 825
fans are excellent and cheap, psu is high quality, case is decent from what I can tell, ssd is fast and kinda big, ram is probably adequate 
and mobo idk
marble gust
BB drop is happening
lyric thistle
nooo don't drop the baby
fossil cedar
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/M83ZsX so here's what I came up with
Idk what the GPU supposed to be cuz i didn't see budget but rest of list is what i would change too https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/tgj2p2
lyric thistle
3060ti or something
fossil cedar
Yeah I'd do that with that or something
mossy venture
Idk what the GPU supposed to be cuz i didn't see budget but rest of list is what...
1500 cad max
fossil cedar
Then this https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/MPTJj2
@vale storm your list
fossil cedar
canada pls give us some MSRP 11400s
11400 problem is literally only in the us lmao
Deal with it
Yall get like cheaper 60% of the studf anyway
viral ore
marble gust
yes, BB do online drop(mostly) @simple stag Is too late now
frank stirrup
Yall get like cheaper 60% of the studf anyway
except toilet paper for some reason
fossil cedar
~~except toilet paper for some reason~~
frank stirrup
https://tenor.com/view/huh-rabbit-cute-gif-15676652
Remember when the lockdown started last year
i make funi joke
fossil cedar
Ohh yeah i don't think they priced weird tho
frank stirrup
back when toilet paper was rarer than 30 series gpus
frank stirrup
Ohh yeah i don't think they priced weird tho
IDK but seems logical that it would be
potent portal
People are still trying to sell their stash, and for more than they bought it for lol
fossil cedar
Lmao
potent portal
Stores had to adopt a no returns policy on stuff like that
mossy venture
can I have your heart for 100% off
thats a bit violent
earnest olive
fossil cedar
can I have your heart for 100% off
frank stirrup
WOW PATO
WHEN I FLIRT WITH YOU U HAVE GF
BUT WHEN SIPPY FLIRT WITH U UR SUDDENLY READY TO GO
BLOCKED
fossil cedar
BUT WHEN SIPPY FLIRT WITH U UR SUDDENLY READY TO GO
Can't resist the red, looks so good on the orange mush hehe
frank stirrup
fossil cedar
XD
little osprey
sus?
plain quest
Hi guys, do you know a good docking to attach to laptop, so i can plug 3 monitors, have power adapter , usb .. ?? someone who knows a good one ??
fossil cedar
Hi guys, do you know a good docking to attach to laptop, so i can plug 3 monitor...
depends on what laptop, ie what type of dock you need
versed rock
Hi guys, do you know a good docking to attach to laptop, so i can plug 3 monitor...
Laptop Docks are VERY laptop dependent. Do you have USB-C? Thunderbolt? Surface?
versed rock
Is it Thunderbolt?
Or just USB-C
If it's just USB-C you can't do 3 monitors as far as I knoe
Hell, I don't think Thunderbolt can do 3 monitors.
vague oracle
and is lenovo Laptop
What laptop is it?
There is a docking station but it’s for older Lenovo laptops
Newer ones got rid of compatibility for it
vague oracle
you aren’t able to use any docking stations with that laptop
Not old enough to use the older docking stations but not new enough to use the new ones
versed rock
Yeah, at best you can do a USB-C Dongle, but the laptop needs to support USB-C Alt Mode for Display Output.
clever eagle
i wanna buy this so bad and see what happens
the thing is they accept change of mind returns and its only 8 dollars
serene pulsar
So I got a ton of manuals for the motherboard and GPU and SSd and such
One of them is telling me install the PSU
And I got these cords
Do I need to put these in?
earnest olive
it's a prebuilt
leave it alone and turn it on lol
prebuilts serve one purpose
to work out of the box
if you have to do anything to it then that's a failure of the product
serene pulsar
Oh seriously lol
So basically all these nuts and bolts are all in case something is faulty
Just extra parts
I’ve never built or had a pc
Just laptop
earnest olive
no, it's not in case something is faulty
serene pulsar
Do you know what those cords are
earnest olive
it's just that the parts come with more screws and stuff than you usually need
serene pulsar
They look like PsU
earnest olive
so they included those there in case you ever want to upgrade your prebuilt and end up needing them
they are psu molex connectors
and looks like an extra CPU or PCIe power
serene pulsar
There is no words in the manual only pictures
That is why I’m not entirely sure haha
Thanks for the help
little osprey
How thoughtful of your manufacturer
Mine came with extra papers trying to get me to buy stuff
earnest olive
did you plug the monitor cable into the graphics card
earnest olive
My monitor keeps showing no signal and yet pc is on
if you plugged it into the motherboard that's likely why
take a pic of the back
serene pulsar
Oh you’re right
I did the HDMI below
I didn’t even see that it had multiple
@earnest olive tysm
serene pulsar
<@197506116702175234> just remember to go into bios and enable xmp
What’s that mean
hidden oracle
earnest olive
<@!122901618369757184> tysm
does it work now?
sand falcon
@analog pulsar Did nzxt really put a 120mm aio on a 10900k
Not only that but as exhaust on an h510
serene pulsar
Yo how come it’s saying activate windows but yet I’m already in lmao
Cant change background image
earnest olive
ABS prebuilts save money by not including a windows key
abstract iris
Trying to upgrade my cpu to the r9 5900x from r5 3600. question is will my b450 pro motherboard be okay with that?
earnest olive
which mobo
abstract iris
B450 pro
earnest olive
msi b450-a pro?
abstract iris
ASRock
earnest olive
ASRock b450 pro4?
potent portal
Is there ways to get it free?
Do you have an old computer running windows 7 or 8? You can just use the key from that
earnest olive
umm I would not recommend it but it would work
abstract iris
so ineed a new motherboard also?
serene pulsar
Do you have an old computer running windows 7 or 8? You can just use the key fro...
My laptop
Runs windows 10
Lol
earnest olive
if you don't plan to overclock or turn on PBO then that board will be okay
potent portal
Don't buy retail, they're cheap on eBay or you can go to a more legitimate reseller. For legal reasons I can't mention any here.
earnest olive
if you want to be able to actually make the most out of your 5900x then you will need a better mobo
abstract iris
if you don't plan to overclock or turn on PBO then that board will be okay
I do overclock my gpu but not my cpu
abstract iris
hyper 212 evo
earnest olive
the stock cooler for the 3600 will not be adequate for the 5900x
hmm
I guess you can get away with a 212 if you leave it full stock
I would still upgrade
abstract iris
Lol i had a feeling i was in to deep
abstract iris
evga 2080ti xc ultra...1440p aaa gaming
abstract iris
I have 3 monitors....i do multiple things
earnest olive
2080ti is holding the 3600 back at 1440p in AAA games anyways
my 3600x had no problem keeping up with my 3080 at 1440p high
abstract iris
2080ti is holding the 3600 back at 1440p in AAA games anyways
thats kinda why i wanted to upgrade
little osprey
2080ti is holding the 3600 back at 1440p in AAA games anyways
you should probably clarify that it's newer, generally harder to run AAA games
earnest olive
you should probably clarify that it's newer, generally harder to run AAA games
well I tried games from like 2018 still held true
unless we talking about AAA games from 1997
little osprey
there are hard to run games from 2018 though
2018 is only 3 years ago
what games specifically?
earnest olive
he's not gonna see a benefit going to 5900x in a game from 2012 lol
abstract iris
new far cry cod bf 2042 ac
earnest olive
yeah... the latest
little osprey
well yea definitely, i wasnt disagreeing there lol
earnest olive
just don't bother upgrading
you will not see a performance gain
you are GPU bound
abstract iris
you will not see a performance gain
So even if i wanted stable frame rates and smoother multitasking i would be wasting money?
little osprey
I went from a 2600 to a 3900X lol
I dont really do much workstation/server stuff.... or play many games these days either
earnest olive
So even if i wanted stable frame rates and smoother multitasking i would be wast...
drop settings
abstract iris
Okay....lets try this. I want more stable frame rates and smoother transitioning between tasks. What would be the recommendation for an upgrade?
potent portal
5800X max if you want stable frames
5900X and 5950X have higher latency and more dropped frames when things switch between CCX0 and CCX1
abstract iris
5800X max if you want stable frames
5900X and 5950X have higher latency and more...
Thank you
potent portal
Fair warning, that's one of the hottest CPUs around. 240mm AIO is the minimum recommended cooler for running at stock speeds.
You can make do with an air cooler but any air cooler that can keep up costs as much or more than an AIO
abstract iris
Haha had to be a catch.
meager saffron
Would this be alright? Someone tweaked it for me and I am just looking for some extra opinions. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8pd9fP
earnest olive
I'd grab a b550 mobo for $20 extra
meager saffron
which b550 theres like 5 of them
meager saffron
i am new to this, how do i know if it has that or where is the search option button
earnest olive
also, the case comes with molex fans so keep in mind you will have no fan control
would advise different case unless that doesn't bother you
meager saffron
not really
earnest olive
what are you trying to play at 1080p144
esports?
anything more demanding than like, league of legends will be a hard ask from the 5600g
meager saffron
siege is probably the most intensive game i play
stupid laptop i have rn plays it at 15fps
what im used to
anything better than 15 would be life changing
earnest olive
might be a better call to get a $100 CPU + $160 used GPU instead of the 5600g
like i3-10100 + GTX 970
meager saffron
i was going to wait to get a graphics card, they are so expensive rn
earnest olive
i mean you could, just note that the 5600g is crippled on the cpu side due to having half the cache of the 5600x
it's basically 3600 level on the cpu side
meager saffron
i hope it doesnt seem like im trying to argue, i just want to look at all of my options
earnest olive
i would recommend going the used gtx 970 route
meager saffron
cheapest on pcpartpicker is 235 for the cpu
earnest olive
the 5600g will do 60 fps at 900p in siege while the gtx 970 will do 100-120 at 1080p low
$96.79 on amazon lol
meager saffron
so that would be compatible with this? https://pcpartpicker.com/product/PDsnTW/msi-b550m-pro-vdh-wifi-micro-atx-am4-motherboard-b550m-pro-vdh-wifi
earnest olive
https://www.reddit.com/r/hardwareswap/comments/qd0j34/usaca_h_msi_gtx_970_gpu_w_paypal_local_cash/ and here's a used 970 for 175 OBO, they haven't gotten any PMs in 6 hours so you could offer less
no, intel cpus need a different motherboard
meager saffron
what intel "chipset" does it need?
earnest olive
B560
a little bit more expensive but you end up with more than twice the performance, and you might be able to get a 970 for cheaper
i got my last 970 for $150
analog pulsar
<@!528024627176407062> Did nzxt really put a 120mm aio on a 10900k
Wtf you on about
I got off work
Google home to sleep
Going
This is #building-and-recc-chat
misty prairie
Hey Newegg community, board off of work, waiting on computer parts lol. Question for the overlockers out there, if you could build an ultimate OC build what would it be and what would be in it? No budget restrictions, have fun with it.
misty prairie
Check this out on @Newegg: ABS Master Gaming PC - Intel i5 10400F - GeForce RTX ...
Not the biggest fan of the ABS build personaly... That being said this case and build simplicity is giving me a nerd -gasam lol
misty prairie
It's the US Website.
Damn Canadians lmao JK
misty prairie
That front looks like basically no air can get into the case.
agreed but the simplicity is clean af
earnest olive
no budget restrictions?
start by buying 1,000 i9-11900K and 1,000 kits of b-die so you can bin them
misty prairie
no budget restrictions?
lol now now just a personal build lol 
earnest olive
so you lied to me then
now I'm disappointed
bet you don't even daily liquid helium
coward
stoic island
nah liquid hydrogen is where it's at
sand falcon
helium colder
earnest olive
oh yeah also buy 1,000 6900XT OC formula
Navi 21 XTXH prebin isn't good enough
need to hand bin out of the pre binned chips
stoic island
helium colder
hydrogen rarer to use :D
sand falcon
Hydrogen is everywhere
sand falcon
There are some good reasons for that
stoic island
(and also a reason for liquid hydrogen to be the 'special' option)
earnest olive
buy 1,000 Z590 DARK to bin the VRMS LMAO
sand falcon
misty prairie
nah liquid hydrogen is where it's at
get outtta my freaking pool
tight saddle
Hi guys i have a question, could i use a 3070 with a 550w psu?
mossy venture
Hi guys i have a question, could i use a 3070 with a 550w psu?
0/10 would not reccomend
tight saddle
Thanks!
earnest olive
doable if you have an extremely low power draw CPU like a ryzen 5 3600
but either way, you have a 3070, you can afford a new $60 psu
potent portal
Dude's got an i7 3770
That poor throttled 3070
And potential fire hazard psu
little osprey
Dude's got an i7 3770
That poor throttled 3070
And potential fire hazard psu
but i like fireworks
tight saddle
Ok so i will purchase a new psu
And yeah the cpu is doin bottleneck but surprisingly is not that much on 1440p and 4k
frank stirrup
And yeah the cpu is doin bottleneck but surprisingly is not that much on 1440p a...
did you use a calculator to find that?
tight saddle
No i see it in game
tight saddle
I have a i7 3770 and recently purchase a zotac rtx 3070 twin edge
frank stirrup
or play 1440p cranked to increase gpu load
tight saddle
Yes i play max out everything and in a high resolution
And no dlss on games that support it
The only game that is givin me some problema with framerates is fortnite
frank stirrup
yeah thats a cpu heavy game
fossil cedar
What’s that mean
It runs the ram at the rated speed instead of 2133mhz
fossil cedar
ABS prebuilts save money by not including a windows key
They do include windows but it activates few days after boot up or you can do manually by going to https://www.abs.com/faq and it tells you how to fix manually if you don't wanna wait@serene pulsar
versed rock
my aio is making a really weird noise
Is it like, a grinding noise? What kind of noise is it?
vale storm
hey guys
Can you guys take a look at this?
Something is up with the motherboard, not sure what the note means.
fossil cedar
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3qcH68
Have you got this already?
stoic island
first off, would not recommend that list
fossil cedar
Outdated parts
vale storm
What is outdated?
fossil cedar
What is outdated?
Cpu, case, gpu, cooler is meh, ram is meh
Psu is alright but better options
Ssd also overpriced
vale storm
A case can be outdated? 🤦
stoic island
A case can be outdated? 🤦
we have moved on from the era of metal boxes with no airflow to metal boxes with mesh fronts and actual airflow
:p
stoic island
It's more just a bad case, but yea
vale storm
Bad case sounds much better.
1.5K CAD.
I was speaking to a few nice people yesterday too.
stoic island
oh just use ca.pcpartpicker.com then
fossil cedar
Well no point using usd pc part pciker then
vale storm
I am within budget. It's easy to make the USD to CAD $ difference.
fossil cedar
I am ordering an RTX 3060ti
Have you already bought the gpu or are you waiting for 3060 ti msrp pipe dream?
stoic island
I am within budget. It's easy to make the USD to CAD $ difference.
shipping from the US to Canada is not
fossil cedar
I am within budget. It's easy to make the USD to CAD $ difference.
Not really things don't carry over well, better to use native pc part picker
stoic island
and it's just nicer to use cad pricing because ca.pcpartpicker.com uses Canadian retailers like canadacomputers and such
vale storm
Look, just focus on my question, lmao.
The oudated parts, what replacements should I consider?
outdated*
stoic island
(It's more useful to make a list based on cad in ca.pcpartpicker.com, which I assume pato is working on now)
fossil cedar
@vale storm https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/YzBLht I'd do this
vale storm
I meant in terms of games.
I am mostly looking at Warzone, Assassin's creed, rust, Destiny 2 & CSGO.
fossil cedar
It will run all those at 1080p perfectly and 1440p very well depending on gpu, if you get 3060 ti/6700xt and above it will be very nice 1440p machine
vale storm
Hm... Okay.
You've been by far the most helpful.
I appreciate that.
Do I need watercooling? Or a core i7?
stoic island
no and no
frank stirrup
Do I need watercooling? Or a core i7?
Not at all
stoic island
11400 doesn't really get hot enough to warrant an aio
frank stirrup
and 11400 beats tons of i7s in gaming
stoic island
'i3' 'i5' 'i7' 'i9' bad metric of performance
analog hearth
wait really?
frank stirrup
wait really?
yeah
10700 is about equal
and 11700 is slightly better
but it beats all other i7s
iirc
stoic island
wait really?
you think a poor i7 880 is going to beat a 11400?
mossy venture
11600k beats 10700k right?
stoic island
:p
stoic island
11600k beats 10700k right?
depends on task
frank stirrup
11600k beats 10700k right?
about equal
mossy venture
Ah
analog hearth
oh i thought you meant a modern i7 lolll
mossy venture
11600k tends to be cheaper, right? (Not talking resellers)
frank stirrup
oh i thought you meant a modern i7 lolll
any i7 before 10th gen is beaten
analog hearth
ah makes sense
fossil cedar
11600k tends to be cheaper, right? (Not talking resellers)
Not cheaper then 11400, well in the us it is because scalpers
analog hearth
happy birthday (if it’s still your birthday)
fossil cedar
Yes it is, thank you
earnest olive
They do include windows but it activates few days after boot up or you can do ma...
ye that's what I meant mb
vale storm
Yes it is, thank you
Happy birthday!
My question is, why is an intel core i7 performs as well as a core i5 11400? LOL.
frank stirrup
My question is, why is an intel core i7 performs as well as a core i5 11400? LOL...
which i7
I mean its pretty obvious that a 10 year old i7 is gonna get destroyed by an i5 11400
or a 5 year old one
Or even 9th gen
per generation improvement is more important than i3, i7 or i5
fossil cedar
Happy birthday!
Ty
obsidian wigeon
^
something like 10700f would be faster
but like 7700k?
hell no
11400 is better
obsidian wigeon
hm
frank stirrup
anything multi core is 10700 tho
obsidian wigeon
ye
stoic island
@fossil cedar happy spooky birthday
tight sorrel
mellow chasm
Got a question, dont know if this is the right chat for this or not. Will there be any bottlenecking or performance issues putting a Ryzen 9 5900X with a RX6700
earnest olive
lol, no
a top end CPU will not bottleneck a midrange graphics card
unless you are playing csgo at 480p 4:3 x)
mellow chasm
alright thanks 🙂
earnest olive
would go a lower end cpu
unless you do non-gaming tasks
5600x is more than enough CPU to game with a 6700xt
5600x is more than enough CPU to game in general
mellow chasm
Yeah, I have a decent work load on cpu. i need the 5900x lol
earnest olive
ah okay
just making sure cause quite a lot of people think they need 5900x or 5950x for fortnite
more power to you if you are actually going to load up those 12 cores
mellow chasm
Yeah this is a work PC with a side of gaming lol
mellow chasm
Thanks for the info lol.
mellow chasm
yeah seriously
mellow chasm
Powercolor RX6700XT
lemme find a link
This is pretty close. I got it off my friend who got lucky and bought a 3080 for a non scalper price.
fossil cedar
Thanks 
long rock
It has been another week in the life of Dave, so I think I will maybe order a new PC case next week, I’m pretty set on the P500A from Phanteks. May pick up an SSD too. Are case swaps as hard as a platform upgrade? (That was my last upgrade)
stoic island
if you have an aio, it's decently annoying, otherwise, it's mainly just unplugging psu, and removing and relocation motherboard and psu
long rock
Nah, I’m air cooled lol
stoic island
well, prob want to uninstall gpu too
but cpu mobo ram cooler can just go together into the new case
earnest olive
case swap is basically the same amount of work as a rebuild
long rock
I’ve considered water cooling but I am still kinda new to the PC thing, the 5600X runs toasty which I’m still getting used to
covert vapor
Yank out the motherboard and aio, lift the motherboard by the aio
earnest olive
you don't gotta take the mobo assembly apart but you gotta undo and redo the cables
anyways you can do it in like 20 mins if you're experienced
long rock
Yeah the cables should be interesting
stoic island
Yea, it's mainly the cables, but if you did it one time, you should be able to do it again
earnest olive
but it depends on cables as well
my pc would not be fun to case swap
so many cables
like 12 argb cables or something like that
10 fan cables
long rock
It only took me about 30-40 mins to get the new board and everything hooked up, and another few hours to figure out the BIOS flash lol
earnest olive
extensions
stoic island
yea rgb is annoying
earnest olive
really interested in those new lian li fans that link together using contact pads
but so expensive lol
stoic island
unifans?
long rock
Thankful I only have 1 fan on the entire case currently, so there’s not a whole lot of wiring,
earnest olive
yeah
long rock
I was thinking about setting up a fan up top but I figured it would be best to get a new case, I need more airflow, this pre built case has run its course
So, with more airflow, doesn’t that mean my room will heat up faster?
My poor singular exaust fan cannot move the air I’m needed it too lol. AMD runs toasty
stoic island
perhaps, but it's the same amount of heat
long rock
True
This case wasn’t designed for high end stuff I don’t think, it came with a passively cooled GT710 
stoic island
It'll mainly just be more heat coming from hot air out of the case rather than heat radiating out from the sides of the case
long rock
Okay
stoic island
although with lowered temps your parts might decide to boost higher and draw more power and create more heat in general with the extra power
long rock
Yeah because right now my glass and the whole top of my case get warm when I’m playing Beam or Fallout or something
stoic island
You'll see how the conditions actually manifest, afterall, theory isn't always practice
long rock
I want to see if I can find a CPU cooler to keep the 5600X cool, right now it’s still the stock cooler. RGB would be really nice, and I liked how the top end Wraith cooler that AMD has looked. Idk how much better of a job that would do
I know the cables are a mess lol
mossy venture
I want to see if I can find a CPU cooler to keep the 5600X cool, right now it’s ...
Id cooling se-224xt is pretty good for the price
stoic island
prism is meh
long rock
There we go, I kinda wanna figure out how to change that motherboard RGB, I think that’s in the bios
stoic island
go vetroo v5 prob if you want the rgb
long rock
Oh, and kinda off topic, I have all my original parts that came with this thing, are they worth selling?
Ooh kewl. That’s a neat cooler
proper laurel
how do i tell if my mother board can do windows 11
long rock
@proper laurel I think they may have a list of what can and cannot run Windows 11. What board do you have?
proper laurel
Asus PRIME B550-PLUS ATX AM4
long rock
I would think that’s okay
long rock
I have a B450 Tomahawk Max and haven’t upgraded yet
quartz loom
desert gulch
That's awesome! Rarely see someone buy a 3060ti at msrp lol
little osprey
That is so hot
jagged ember
earnest olive
compare their rated static pressure
use whichever one is higher
@elfin flame
also check dba i guess
earnest olive
could also test temps yourself
stoic island
Find testing or do testing yourself
cerulean pivot