#building-and-recc-chat

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little osprey
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most of them arent that bad, they just dont compete with the likes of the 240clc or arctic freezer ii

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oh well of course it wouldnt leak after only 2 months lol

stoic island
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Also, this is more expensive than other AIOs that perform better but anyways

little osprey
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I got a prebuilt a couple years ago from 2012 that had an i7 3770k, it had a 120mm AIO that was still working

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I wish I didnt sell it, it was a neat system.

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it was like an hp envy phoenix something

plain grove
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What happens if I leave my pc on for 3 days straight?

little osprey
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Nothing

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Unless someone steals it

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Or it gets struck by lightning

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Or you dive kick it off your desk

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You know, the usual

potent portal
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3 days? That's nothing, my home server is going on 2 months (Linux) and my desktop (Windows) usually does 3 weeks before it gets unstable

little osprey
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yea i usually leave my desktop on for weeks at a time since it takes about 20 minutes to boot, then start the startup applications (its literally just around 5 things) to become usable

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dieing hard drive problems

rustic flower
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My cooler isn't leaking either. Finally replaced the stock cooler I got with my used 11700F with an NH-L9x65. Now I can compute for more than 3 minutes at a time.

carmine swallow
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Quick question, Amd ryzen 5 5600G is better than Amd ryzen 5 3400g right? First ones a hexacore 12 thread while second ones a quad core. Both have built in Radeon rx graphics. Asking cuz the 3400g is twice the price in my country than the 5600

sand falcon
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Much better

flint sapphire
clever eagle
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kinda obvious

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3400g
5600g
5th gen> 3rd gen
gotta be better

frank stirrup
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3400g isnt 3rd gen

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its second gen with an igpu

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lol

potent portal
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4000 is third gen apu

low tinsel
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How often do you clean your pc?

potent portal
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Weekly, give or take

frank stirrup
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whenever I see its gotten dusty and then a few days because im lazy

low tinsel
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hm, havent cleaned mine since i got it and its been like 2 months

frank stirrup
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as long as u arent seeing dust accumulate on the mesh asnd stuff ur fine

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like intake mesh

potent portal
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Depends how much you use it and how dusty the environment is really

frank stirrup
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mesh in front of intake fans

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that one

potent portal
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Mine are 24/7 systems so I do weekly

low tinsel
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I use it every day

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I think there is dust in the filter on the top

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not like the middle but the sides

frank stirrup
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tbh I live in a very dusty area and I clean maybe once every month or 2

low tinsel
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jesus christ

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i just looked at my front panel

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dust

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cleaning it later on today

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not doing this

frank stirrup
potent portal
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Yup that's where it'll be, right on that intake

frank stirrup
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dusty front panel is best indicator

low tinsel
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yeah, in like 10-15 hours from now when i wake up

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gonna clean it

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i should clean the inside too right

frank stirrup
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Just take it to the garage and use a vacuum cleaner in reverse

low tinsel
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I dont have one

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how would i clean the USB area

frank stirrup
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you dont have any vaccum cleaner?

low tinsel
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if i dont have a item that can suck in air

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no

frank stirrup
low tinsel
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what to do then

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blow it?

frank stirrup
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you have a blower?

low tinsel
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i dont think so

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we just do things old style

frank stirrup
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then you cant blow dust out

low tinsel
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would a hair dryer work

frank stirrup
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I wouldnt unless it has a mode which doesnt output heat

low tinsel
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hm

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alright

frank stirrup
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just use a cloth to clean the mesh

low tinsel
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so a Towel would do fine since i dont have suctions products

frank stirrup
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and a toothbrush and cloth to clean fan blades

low tinsel
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both?

frank stirrup
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damp cloth is fine for fans and case

low tinsel
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like water or a alcohol

frank stirrup
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toothbrush comes in handy there

low tinsel
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i mean i can just take the front panel off

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clean front and back of the fan

frank stirrup
potent portal
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I used to use cans of compressed air, but now I have an electric blower. Paid for itself.

low tinsel
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but the back one and the aoe might be tough

frank stirrup
lyric thistle
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I still need to get a blower

low tinsel
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wym at the top and back

lyric thistle
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Computer is collecting dust lol

low tinsel
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I got mine in top, back and front

frank stirrup
frank stirrup
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you can take off the front panel

low tinsel
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mhm

frank stirrup
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fans and the back and top are toothbrush to clean

low tinsel
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then i clean the front fans

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oh alr

potent portal
low tinsel
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ill have to find an old toothbrush then

frank stirrup
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I used to clean manually

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blowing air is SOOO much faster tho

low tinsel
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thats honestly insane

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Didnt think my pc would have dust

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Like i saw some on the top but the side is insane

potent portal
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It's always the intake that's the worst

frank stirrup
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This is what I came back to after a week in the hospital kekw

flint sapphire
low tinsel
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that would give me goosebumps

potent portal
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At least it's not orange

low tinsel
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crazy

frank stirrup
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pc is always on and cat decided he was gonna live near pc because he missed me

flint sapphire
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Cheeto dust 👀

low tinsel
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why is it always on

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after a week

frank stirrup
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im on pc for 12-14 hours a day and i had to rush to the hospital so no time to switch off

low tinsel
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crazy

potent portal
# potent portal At least it's not orange

When I was doing computer repair I had to diagnose a windows 98 pc that had never been cleaned, in a house with 6 pets and indoor smokers. The computer was literally half full of clumped orange dust and hair.
Surprise, the motherboard shorted.

frank stirrup
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also my entire wifi is on the same ups as pc so ups is always on anyway

low tinsel
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wym

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ups

frank stirrup
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indoor smokers always have dirtiest pcs

low tinsel
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oh

frank stirrup
low tinsel
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tuff

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hm

frank stirrup
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its kinda like an inverter

low tinsel
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omg

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my psu

frank stirrup
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plugged into the wall 24/7 and switches to internal batteries when power goes out

low tinsel
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it has a fan so uh

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would i have to clean it too

frank stirrup
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see if the psu has a self clean function

low tinsel
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how

potent portal
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That's rare

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Don't open it if you like living

low tinsel
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im not opening it

frank stirrup
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doesnt asus have a thing in armory crate to reverse fan spin on psu?

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or am I tripping

low tinsel
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i got a kratos psu

potent portal
low tinsel
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i keep looking at the dust on this thing and it disgusts me

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i might clean it now

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even though its about to be 4am in like 20 minutes

frank stirrup
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i vagely remembered somethinfg like that being a thing but wasnt sure

potent portal
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A motor only spins one way normally

frank stirrup
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true true

potent portal
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Just how the magnets work

low tinsel
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hm.

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Might clean it now

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then sleep

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do i have to clean my gpu too?

frank stirrup
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if you make it spin the othetr way back emf is bad or somefing right

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or it actually induces current in some cases if spun manually

potent portal
potent portal
low tinsel
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its a 3060 and fat

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so maybe it is

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gonna take atleast 30 minutes for me to do this

frank stirrup
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fr invest in a datavac

potent portal
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Poke your phone camera under and snap a pic if you can't see under gpu

frank stirrup
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its like 50$ on amazon

low tinsel
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how muhc

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alright

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gonna make my mother get me that

frank stirrup
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it pays for itself in the long run

low tinsel
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alright, time to unplug everything and take this to my living room ; (

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cya guys in like half and hour or more

potent portal
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I got a blower with a 15 Ah battery for $60, and it has 2 nozzles and a light.
I haven't charged it since the first charge over a month ago lol

frank stirrup
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this one looking good

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@low tinsel once you return take a look at this one

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ping so you can return to this point

clever eagle
frank stirrup
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Just means not common

low tinsel
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Do you think I really need to clean them

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They aren’t as dusty as other areas

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I’m currently working on my GPU fans since that is the more dusty set of fans in the build

low tinsel
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Alright I didn’t clean the normal fans just the GPU ones and the filters and inside of the case

frank stirrup
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Did you take a look at the vacuum I linked

low tinsel
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yeah

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I added it to my cart and will talk to my mom about it later today

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it dang, its 5:27am. Took longer than expected

cerulean root
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hey guys does the 1660 super have ddls

obsidian wigeon
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nope

potent portal
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Assuming you mean dlss, no

obsidian wigeon
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only rtx cards has dlss

cerulean root
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dang

tender ivy
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I found an RTX 3080Ti for a decent enough price that I am considering buying it. However, I want to double check that my computer can handle this. Any opinions would be welcome, especially as I am relatively new to working with hardware.

Here are my computer specs:
CPU: Intel Core i7-11700K 8-Core | 750 UHD Graphics
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212
Motherboard: MSI Z 590-A Pro
Memory: G.Skill TridentZ 32GB Dual-Channel 288-pin DDR4 SDRAM
Case: Corsair 220T RGB Airflow
Case Fans: Corsair SP120 RGB Pro (x3)
PSU: EVGA Supernova 750W
Storage: Samsung 970 EVO M.2 2280 1TB SSD

I am not using water cooling, and only have 3 fans, but my computer is sitting in the basement. It's quite cold compared to the rest of the house. I also plan on getting 3 more fans for my computer. My main concern is the GPU overheating, but should that concern change?
Thanks in advance for any help :)

desert gulch
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i think gpu will not overheat, but the suggestions i have are maybe upgrading that psu depending on how much power that cpu is drawing. also maybe upgrading that cpu cooler as the heat coming off the top of the gpu will make the cpu run even hotter.

fossil cedar
desert gulch
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yea

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you copy me smh

fossil cedar
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Didn't see you thing til after lol

desert gulch
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lol

fossil cedar
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Also the case isn't best for airflow but should be okay

tender ivy
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Good to know thanks! ^^

fossil cedar
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Np

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@tender ivy I'd recommend an 850w or 1000w psu from the A tier in this list https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/1116640-psu-tier-list-40/

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And for cpu cooler I'd recommend peerless assassin 120 or scythe fuma 2 or nhd d15 or dark rock pro 4 if you want to avoid water cooling but aios are very safe nowadays so no real reason to avoid it at the high end

tender ivy
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I don't plan on making a switch to water cooling for a while, so thanks for the suggestions :)

fallow carbon
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Hi everyone, Im looking for a solid upgrade from a 750ti because this old girl just isnt cutting anymore, can anyone help me with choosing the right card?

fossil cedar
frank stirrup
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yep what other parts you got

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exact models will help

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so we can suggest a good fit

fallow carbon
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Budget is flexible, id like to stay under 1000. I have a I7 10700K running at 4.75GHZ, with 16gb of ram

fossil cedar
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Ohh rest of system nice

frank stirrup
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3080

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bestbuy drop best bet

fallow carbon
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bestbuy drop?

frank stirrup
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you live near a best buy store?

fallow carbon
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about 15 mins yeah.

frank stirrup
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Ok so keep an eye out and call em often to ask if they have a 3080 in stock

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check website often

fallow carbon
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checking the site now

frank stirrup
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it should warn you a day or 2 before the next drop

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and camp out the night in line at the best buy

fossil cedar
fallow carbon
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best buy shows 2 3080s that look identical but one is a few hundred more. the cheaper is 700

fossil cedar
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you can get 3080s other ways than just best buy

fossil cedar
fallow carbon
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yep. missed that

fossil cedar
fallow carbon
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yes it is

frank stirrup
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you look for that

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and camp the night out

fallow carbon
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hm, im willing to best with the chip shortage theres nearly no chance of finding one in a store

fossil cedar
frank stirrup
frank stirrup
fossil cedar
fossil cedar
fallow carbon
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weird question but is there anything stopping me from using a comparable AMD Card? Its been a long time since i was up to date with the PC scene but i know for a while AMD seemed almost like the better choice for power/cost ratio

frank stirrup
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in everything else they are comparable

fallow carbon
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what would be the equivalent AMD to the 80/70?

frank stirrup
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3070 is the 6700x

desert gulch
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6700xt for the 3070

frank stirrup
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and 3080 is the 6800xt

fossil cedar
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6800 is a middle ground between 3070 and 3080

fallow carbon
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hm, i may look into those.

frank stirrup
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only way to get not scalped amd cards is from the amd website

fossil cedar
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Nvidia just has nicer features but they tend to be more expensive in these times bar the ones straight from amd

fallow carbon
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Ray tracing isnt a huge thing for me. I just want to be able to play games that came out within the last 3 years lol

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holy crap, 500 bucks on AMD site but sold out or 800 on newegg in stock

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what would y'all do in this scenario? I work crazy hours so i cant keep up with hardcore buyers from the AMD site all the time

frank stirrup
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keep an eye out for amd direct drops

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pretty sure there is a schedule

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but i dont know it

fossil cedar
fossil cedar
fallow carbon
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no kidding. i picked a bad time to get back into PC gaming

fossil cedar
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yeah unfortunately

fossil cedar
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pop into micro center every so often if youre near one

fallow carbon
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but thats the issue, i dont really have time to keep a close eye on drops much less get there in time the closest MC is about a 6 hr drive

fossil cedar
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ahh well

fossil cedar
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when you sign up for evga youll get an email eventually saying you have like 2 hours to buy x card

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same deal with newegg shuffle

tender ivy
fossil cedar
fossil cedar
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But i wouldn't even if it's a really good one

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As you'll get a good few black screens

tender ivy
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oof. yeah okay then. thanks

fossil cedar
tender ivy
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good to know thanks

fossil cedar
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np

earnest olive
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depends on his cpu

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@tender ivy what cpu do you have

fossil cedar
tender ivy
earnest olive
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B tier isn't bad

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oh

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i7-11700K

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ok no you need an upgrade then lol

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if you had something like a ryzen 5 5600x you could stick with your current psu

fossil cedar
earnest olive
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11700K will chomp power

tender ivy
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Yeah the core was my current way to go without a GPU peepoSadSip

earnest olive
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you can get away with less depending on your rig

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I ran a 3080 and a 3070 at the same time on a 650W B tier PSU

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at 100% tdp on both

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no problems

tender ivy
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impressive

earnest olive
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the CPU was idling at 20 watts in that scenario

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also no rgb and only one drive

tender ivy
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Memory sticks and fans are RGB

fossil cedar
fossil cedar
earnest olive
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we're talking about B tier, not D tier

fossil cedar
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ik lol

earnest olive
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B tier PSU is built to handle spikes

fossil cedar
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yeah but not as well

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people who have 850w a tiers will still experience black screen sometimes

earnest olive
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the trip point of that psu is 1,013.95W

fossil cedar
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it is?

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damm

earnest olive
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that's not exceptionally high for 750W psus or anything lol

fossil cedar
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Yeah but still

earnest olive
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most decent 750W psu will trip at around 1kw

fossil cedar
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Thought would have been 900w or something

earnest olive
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I'm not saying it's an ideal choice

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but if he already has it and he had a lower powered CPU it wouldn't be worth upgrading it

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he has a higher powered CPU so it's worth upgrading

fossil cedar
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Fair yeah

earnest olive
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you could technically still run 11700K + 3080ti on it

fossil cedar
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Not fun time

earnest olive
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it's just past the realm where I could recommend doing so

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assuming you stick to gaming load only, 11700K will usually be at under 200 watts

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so a heavily oced 3080ti at 450W with spikes to 600W wouldn't trip it

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but it wouldn't be great

fossil cedar
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Fair nough

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I don't like cutting that close

earnest olive
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also wow this UHD 750 igpu is insane

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just got genshin downloaded on my laptop

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running at 1080p60 on the igpu

fossil cedar
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its pretty good

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uhd 730 is still decent too

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my bro has no complaints bout single channel 8gb uhd 730 perf for lighter weight games

icy sinew
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how to compare a SSD with a regular HD? i used a 2T in my last build 7 yrs ago, needing a new build and want to switch to a SSD. not sure what size to get.

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didn't fill up the 2T, it had lots of space before it died

jagged ember
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get both an ssd and an hdd

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if you want to save money

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hdd for storing more files, ssd for booting windows and other programs from

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but, ssd are much faster than hdd

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but are more expensive when compared to HDD based on amount of storage per dollar basically

versed oar
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im getting my pc soon!!

icy sinew
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i have a new 2T hdd already, guess i will get a smaller ssd and save some $, use both

jagged ember
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500gb ssd I find is enough

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but buy according to your needs

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also dont buy a crappy one

frank stirrup
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my other pc is uhd 750

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very nice igpu

earnest olive
frank stirrup
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gaming on igpu and mining dgpu

earnest olive
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i think i should try overclocking the igpu now lol

frank stirrup
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gaming no impact on mining

earnest olive
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it's boosting to 1450mhz

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yeah

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both of my main games run perfectly on the igpu

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i might make this laptop my main machine and only use my desktop for work lol

frank stirrup
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I dont think I can oc the gpu of my 11500 on a b560 board

jagged ember
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Geez

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Now I want a lappy

earnest olive
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i can oc igpu on hm570 board

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so i think you should be able to

frank stirrup
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bios or xtu?

earnest olive
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bios

frank stirrup
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hmm

earnest olive
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im gonna try it now

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how much u think i can oc the igpu by?

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it's undervolted by 20mV as well

frank stirrup
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i should mess around with the asus bios when I have time

earnest olive
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might need to remove undervolt

frank stirrup
earnest olive
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ok bet

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gonna try it

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lol it crashed as soon as I tried to log in

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video tdr failure bsod

frank stirrup
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figures

earnest olive
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I removed the undervolt

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but I'm not going to overvolt it

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since 1650MHz POSTed let's try 1600

frank stirrup
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boutta ship you my gpu so you can have fun overclocking the crap outta it

earnest olive
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I can only control it in increments of 50MHz

frank stirrup
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ahhh i see

earnest olive
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1600MHz has booted into windows

frank stirrup
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I just realised the mem on my gpu can do +95% before dropping perf

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LMFAO

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1175 to 2260

earnest olive
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I think I can set 3dmark to test using igpu right?

frank stirrup
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no wait nvm

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its 1750 base

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not 1175

frank stirrup
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dew it

earnest olive
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yeah

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I haven't seen it boost past idle yet

frank stirrup
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I can do a 31% on gpu mem

earnest olive
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so who knows if it'll be stable

frank stirrup
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and 20% on core

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anyway have fun

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im gonna sleep

earnest olive
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let's go lmao

sweet dirge
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whats the best 4k monitor for gaming and programming

livid cairn
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would a motherboard with BIOS 2423 be compatible with the AMD Ryzen 7 5800X 3.8 GHz 8-Core Processor with BIOS version 1004 without needing a BIOS update?

worn wave
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What motherboard is it

livid cairn
worn wave
livid cairn
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ok thanks!

little osprey
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@bitter mason nice external exhaust fan lol

bitter mason
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wouldn't fit otherwise

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gotta do what ya gotta do right? lol

little osprey
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i think it looks quite cool actually

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pun intended

potent portal
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If it works then it's not a stupid idea. I'd go so far as to say an elegant solution.

amber knoll
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Does anyone know if it's easy (or possible) to access the bottom m.2 slot on an Asus Dark Hero mobo with a 3080 and a gpu bracket installed without taking out the card?
Debating if I should go delay my build until I get another NVmE drive.

potent portal
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Not easy with it installed but moving the GPU should be easy to move unless you're doing a hard tube custom loop

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Getting the NVMe into the slot is one thing, screwing it in place is another

amber knoll
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True. Thanks; I haven't gotten my board quite yet so I couldn't see the spacing firsthand yet, and it's hard to tell in pictures.

potent portal
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Most 3080s are triple slot size so it hangs really far down

amber knoll
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Yeah, the Ventus I got looked honkin' huge. 🤣

potent portal
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Oof ventus
For the size you'd think the cooling is better, but it's not

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It's still a 3080 at least but watch those temps

amber knoll
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Yeah, I'd already seen advice to undervolt it a bit. Hopefully the 6 intake fans I'll have on my case will reign it in, but if not, I'll lower that voltage. It'll still be a beast for my purposes

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But thanks for the input; I may just hold off assembly until I snag another drive just to be done with it and not have to take back out that chonker of a card. lol.

stray glen
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Anyone here done an sTRX 3rd Gen 3900 Build? Lots of info that seems to be in Limbo

potent portal
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Probably because everyone is waiting for the TR 5000 launch

stray glen
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I still need to cool it. But I've been on the phone with a few vendors to get info that should have been in my installation book.

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Nothing water cooled seems to fit the sTRX CPU or it does fit but doesn't have the fittings... its very frustrating. I can't see that going away with the 5000

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When I say book I mean the types of usable RAM weren't updated

potent portal
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There's models of liquid coolers designed with TR cold plates and mounts

vague oracle
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I’m planning to custom loop mine once I get a 5990x when it releases

tight sorrel
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Looking good!

potent portal
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Threadripper, upcoming model

tight sorrel
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ah. ofc

frank stirrup
gray sphinx
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Dose anyone know if there's somewhere I can buy a NZXT Kraken Z53 but just the pump part, I don't need the rest of the aio

frank stirrup
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Wot

potent portal
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Considering the way it's wired, no

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It's all connected through that block

gray sphinx
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Damn I want a 480 aio but with the fun pump on the kraken, I know they come apart because of other someone else doing it on YouTube but they had that YouTube money to throw away

fossil cedar
potent portal
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The fans and RGB all run back to that block so they'd have to trick it into thinking they were still connected

gray sphinx
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So I can't used a fun pump like a nzxt one id have to go with maybe one like corsair

gray sphinx
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I'll go ahead and take a look at that! Brb

potent portal
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Yes that's another AIO but the block should be a lot easier to separate

gray sphinx
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With most aios you just need a good razer and a steady hand its just tiny tiny water cooling

potent portal
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Yeah that's the easy part. The good thing about this one is the fans are separate from the block, not wired together

gray sphinx
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My plan is to do a wall mounted pc with a 480mm

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So the pump is coming off no mater what

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And this one looks like i can change the tube size

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Yah if you look at the image of the black and clear one it looks to be threaded

potent portal
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Interesting

tight sorrel
potent portal
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It's only 702 PPI

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Only a little higher than an oled galaxy

tight sorrel
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Well, then you put it that way...

potent portal
gray sphinx
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Its a 156 usd witch really hurts so ima keep on looking but its better than killing a perfectly good aio

tight sorrel
#

Doesnt everyone?

gray sphinx
#

And yes. I would play doom on it lmao

#

For 156 ill make it my main display lmao

potent portal
#

Yeah I was even going to suggest buying a "for parts" one

gray sphinx
#

I looked on ebay but all they have is the rgb one that says nzxt on it

#

Plus I need to find some fans that look good with rgb off so when I'm not flexing my pc in a zoom call I can go to sleep

potent portal
#

P12 is my personal recommendation

#

There's an argb model of those arctic ones

potent portal
fossil cedar
#

Hmmmm okay

gray sphinx
#

Ngl i hate there logo thats the only reason I wouldn't get em

fossil cedar
#

But 1440p, play doom at higher res than my monitor xD

potent portal
#

Why not? Don't need to see the hud or anything for that game

gray sphinx
#

There's a hud?

#

I've never seen it on my toaster

potent portal
#

Exactly

#

Not on my fridge either

fossil cedar
gray sphinx
#

I forgot how to play doom tbh🤣

potent portal
#

Well now you can re-learn on your cpu block while you watch youtube on your main monitor

gray sphinx
#

Main monitor? You mean my second cpu block?

potent portal
#

No I mean the little raspberry pi display

potent portal
lyric thistle
#

what did amy do to deserve that 😔

potent portal
gray sphinx
#

The people who make that cpu screen also make a 180mm rad screen

#

I can't find it anywhere

#

And now I'm sad.

fossil cedar
gray sphinx
#

I think the nzxts rgb fans might be my best bet for a the 480mm rad but now I have a new question....

#

How do I know what size fan I need lol

potent portal
#

On a 480mm rad I'm guessing that 4x 120mm

gray sphinx
#

Alrighty now to go through 400 and not buy a single thing that something other than cosmetic

potent portal
#

Lol good luck

gray sphinx
#

Why do good looking fans cost so much😭

lyric thistle
#

arctic p12:)

gray sphinx
#

I like the simplistic design on fand like nzxt fans but I'm looking for good prices on them

#

Apart from that tho look at this 480 rad I found its cheap as heck lol

worn wave
#

I would not use a rad that cheap in a proper computer

stoic island
#

seem like real thin boi

indigo forum
#

Anyone know if ram rgb lights turn on in any slot when trying to boot the pc?

obsidian wigeon
#

They should light up

indigo forum
#

I only get egb light on the ram sticks in slot 2 and 4 from the left

#

Rgb*

#

I wonder. Could it be a cpu problem or a mb problem?

full inlet
#

My friend who has a system with a ryzen 5700g was trying to install radeon graphics drivers for integrated graphic, and his entire system crashed and windows won't boot

#

He tried to re-install windows, but the power went out halfway through and now he is trying to figure out how best to restore him system.

#

Any thoughts?

#

He is re-installing windows rn.

flint sapphire
proper night
#

@elfin flame

Did you have any suggestions for the MOBO?

proper night
#

No, not really.
@elfin flame

full inlet
#

and last time he updated the drivers it crashed the computer

full inlet
#

Every time he updates the graphics drivers he has to re-install windows

#

does he need to update bios?

#

anyone have any ideas?

fossil cedar
#

Get some 3600 ballistix ram then Chef_Kiss

fossil cedar
full inlet
#

ok

full inlet
fossil cedar
full inlet
#

the graphics driver for radeon integrated graphics

fossil cedar
#

Odd

full inlet
#

yeah

proper night
#

@elfin flame
No he doesn’t plan to do any significant overclocks.

fossil cedar
#

Hello dude above 02dabgif

little osprey
#

well are you gonna help him?

fossil cedar
little osprey
#

i was making a joke

#

idk if you were trying to be passive aggressive but it seemed like it

fossil cedar
little osprey
#

oh okay lol

quasi hemlock
#

I just installed my zotac 3070 amp holo but there is this strange wing like thing that came with it, is it important and what is it

#

I can send a pic

fossil cedar
#

Uhh I've no idea what that is ngl

#

You'll be fine without it

worn wave
#

GPU support

#

There should have been another piece that comes with it that attaches to the PCIe screws on the case

fossil cedar
worn wave
#

Also looks similar to Dell OEM GPU support bracket but I don't believe it would be

quasi hemlock
#

Is it important or will I be fine without it

fossil cedar
quasi hemlock
#

I probably won't notice the sag even if it does

#

Just upgraded from a 760 ti, I can't even imagine the increase in quality

earnest olive
#

some cards that have heavier heatsinks can see a reduction in temperatures due to a support bracket helping the cooler make better contact with the GPU components

#

for example, people have seen vram temperature reductions greater than 10c just putting a lego tower under a 3090 founder's

quasi hemlock
#

So you definitely suggest putting it on

#

But it isn’t an urgent matter

earnest olive
#

yeah, you should be able to install it without even needing to turn the pc off; might as well do it

quasi hemlock
#

Tbh the reason I didn’t is because I couldn’t find where it connects

earnest olive
#

i got you

#

it's gonna look something like that

#

notice these screw holes

#

it uses the case for reinforcement to push up the graphics card

wide sparrow
elfin flame
earnest olive
#

his card came with an included bracket, might as well use it

elfin flame
wide sparrow
#

Mmmm

#

I need to follow that vid

earnest olive
#

my 3080 really did not need a sag bracket and didn't include one

#

but i got one cause pretty

proper night
#

This was the original post I made.

wide sparrow
#

It does

little osprey
#

dang i forgot how expensive gpus were for a second

potent portal
#

Even retail price, not scalped, is expensive af

little osprey
#

honestly yea lol

wide sparrow
#

Looks like it will never end

potent portal
#

Not til 2023 at least, unless intel exceeds expectations and supplies a lot

rustic flower
#

Now I wanna see a GPU, in space, suddenly illuminate all its LEDs and jump to warp. Considering how fast their prices go up... 😁

trail sundial
#

So I just got my masterpiece i7 1st gen x58 pc running

#

probably hasn't been run in years

#

thank goodness it does run

#

It claims "Windows failed to start"

#

and "no hard disk detected"

#

assistance would be appreciated

earnest olive
#

well it means exactly what it says

#

I dunno what more you want

carmine swallow
#

What's the ram max frequency should you get for i5-10400? The ryzen equivalent ryzen 5 3600 is best paired with 3200 mhz apparently, but im not sure if 3200 on the Intel variant will be as beneficial

obsidian wigeon
#

If B460 or H510 then rip

carmine swallow
#

Msi mag460m

obsidian wigeon
#

It'll be capped at 2666

#

Yep, that's the issue

carmine swallow
#

Why is that?

obsidian wigeon
#

No xmp

potent portal
#

Overclocking tax

obsidian wigeon
#

Only on K chips is where 3200mhz is supported on those

#

B560 will allow it

earnest olive
#

✨ product segmentation ✨

potent portal
#

Intel wants you to buy a more expensive motherboard in order to overclock

obsidian wigeon
#

Or H570

potent portal
#

XMP is technically overclock

obsidian wigeon
#

ye, they reversed course in 500 series chipset however

earnest olive
#

you can run 5000+ mt/s on an i5-10400, but only if intel hasn't decided to cripple your motherboard

#

b460 is crippled

carmine swallow
#

Oh and here I thought Intel was cheaper cuz 3600 was pricier xD

potent portal
earnest olive
#

it is

obsidian wigeon
#

yep

earnest olive
#

you just bought an old board

#

i5-10400 + b560 has no such limit

obsidian wigeon
#

On amd even A520 has xmp

carmine swallow
#

Would it be better cost to performance?

obsidian wigeon
#

I think with this odd situation

#

Don't upgrade mobo

earnest olive
#

well yeah if you can return the b460 board or don't have it yet

#

but if you already have it and can't return it then not worth upgrading

obsidian wigeon
#

^

carmine swallow
#

I haven't started the build. I'm still looking for parts. It's my first time

obsidian wigeon
#

Ah

#

Good, then it's not too late

#

Go for B560

potent portal
#

B560 is totally worth the extra $20 over B460

carmine swallow
#

I'm still at the part where im selecting everything on pcpartpicker xD

potent portal
#

What's your budget and target resolution/fps

earnest olive
#

don't use intel stock cooler

carmine swallow
#

1080p 60 fps on most titles. I'm ok with less on heavy games like cyberpunk

#

700-800 max 900$

earnest olive
#

well you should start by finding a used gpu for a decent price

#

nothing else matters until then

carmine swallow
#

I did

earnest olive
#

what did you get

carmine swallow
#

Found 1650 at 200$

earnest olive
#

hmm

carmine swallow
#

It's the best I can get rn

#

I know it's supposed to be cheaper but 1660 is literally 800$ here

earnest olive
#

you are gonna have to run some really potato settings to hit 60 fps in AAA games

#

I don't know what the used market is like in your country

obsidian wigeon
#

200 for 1650

potent portal
#

Nah you can fit a 970 or 980 in that budget

obsidian wigeon
#

That ain't super bad, but ye

#

Go used

#

If you're in the us, perhaps

earnest olive
#

in the states I would recommend a 1070 @ $300 for a $800 build

obsidian wigeon
#

^

still roostBOT
#
Hawk-i#7682 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

obsidian wigeon
#

Sometimes a 1070ti

#

If lucky

carmine swallow
#

Used market is horrible

earnest olive
#

what country

potent portal
#

Only if you don't know what to look for

carmine swallow
#

Canada

obsidian wigeon
#

Ah

earnest olive
#

uhh

obsidian wigeon
#

So the currency is in

#

cad

#

rip

carmine swallow
#

I looked on ebay and 1650 is on a starting bid at 400$

potent portal
#

Well that changes a lot

earnest olive
#

I don't think the used market in canada is quite as bad as say, where foxy lives lol

obsidian wigeon
#

Well 200 cad for 1650 is fine

#

Yeah 1650 used here is 300

carmine swallow
#

😭

potent portal
#

Don't even bother with a 10 series or newer, 970 is still good enough and can run windows 11

obsidian wigeon
#

It used to be 130

#

Thanks gpu market

earnest olive
#

we have someone here from india, wait until you see THAT used market

obsidian wigeon
#

India is even worse

carmine swallow
#

I was also looking at ryzen 3600 cpu but that's priced over 400$ here

obsidian wigeon
#

Thailand is bad but not that bad

carmine swallow
#

So I heard Intel i5-10400 is similar but cheaper

obsidian wigeon
#

I'm still angry over $300 1650 tho

#

And ye

#

No, not 300

#

400 200Sad

#

I got my conversion wrong lol

earnest olive
#

just found a PC in ontario for 840 cad with a gtx 1070

obsidian wigeon
#

huh

#

Speccs?

earnest olive
#

10 second search

obsidian wigeon
#

ok

potent portal
#

Ooh, on canada computers?

earnest olive
#

nah, canadian hws

potent portal
#

Oh well that works too

carmine swallow
#

As rock b560m good with i5-10900?

earnest olive
#

i7-6700, 1070, 16gb undescribed ram, 128gb ssd, 2tb hdd, 750w gold evga psu

#

i5-10900

#

wat

#

i5-10600 or i9-10900

potent portal
carmine swallow
#

10600 oops

earnest olive
#

are you near ontario

#

might as well just grab this

carmine swallow
#

Oh im near there lmao

earnest olive
#

1070 is one heck of a lot better than 1650

potent portal
#

Yeah go for that then, that'll be better to get a good gpu over a newer cpu. Then you can upgrade cpu later if you need to.

earnest olive
#

840 cad is a reasonable price

#

would even say it's a pretty good price

carmine swallow
#

Yea but I wanna make my own lmao

earnest olive
#

1070 itself is worth what 400 cad?

potent portal
#

Is your desire to build it stronger than your desire to run games well?

carmine swallow
#

I could buy their product. Sell the gpu for twice the price. PROFIT

earnest olive
#

uhhh

#

I don't think it works like that

#

nobody wants to buy a gtx 1070 for $1680 lol

carmine swallow
#

I found a 1070 for 150 on ebay

#

I could just use that instead of a 1650

earnest olive
#

sounds like it's a for parts listing

#

or a scam

#

or an incomplete auction

carmine swallow
#

Seems too good to be true

#

It's saysb"Zotac GeForce gtx 1070 mini 8gb gddr5"

obsidian wigeon
#

zotac is real

#

but good deals like those exists ngl

carmine swallow
#

Oh it's condition is for parts or not working ._.

obsidian wigeon
#

just gotta check physically

#

oh for parts

#

rip

#

what about the hws pc up there?

#

ya know, since you're near there

carmine swallow
#

I'll check it out. Can't exactly buy it rn it's almost midnight lol

earnest olive
#

I guessed it

obsidian wigeon
#

Yeah it's fair

#

But be sure to be quick, people might snatch it

carmine swallow
#

Also back to my build. Idk which b560 board is best with i5-10400

#

It would be nice if it has build in wifi

earnest olive
#

why 10600?

carmine swallow
#

I keep messing up the names 10400

#

X.x

#

My b

earnest olive
#

there's not really a meaningful difference between 10400 and 10600

#

ah

earnest olive
#

mm those vrms at the top with no heatsink

potent portal
#

10400 isn't that thirsty

earnest olive
#

well, it'll be fine for gaming with a 1650 that's bottlenecking it to hell

obsidian wigeon
#

it's fine for a 10400

earnest olive
#

if you ran all core unlocked power limits with a cooler that isn't downdraft it would probably stop being fine

obsidian wigeon
#

yeah but stock?

carmine swallow
#

And If in the future I decide to upgrade gpu to 3000 series? Will it still hold?

obsidian wigeon
#

it's fine

#

yes

earnest olive
#

stock is unlocked power limits on most boards lol

obsidian wigeon
#

huh

earnest olive
#

pretty much only OEM prebuilt boards enforce intel stock by default

potent portal
obsidian wigeon
#

yep

#

pro vdh is better

#

i say just get that

earnest olive
#

what's the point of putting an 11600k on that

#

might as well put an 11400

#

locked chipset

obsidian wigeon
#

11400 is also hella spensiv in canada

#

iirc

potent portal
#

Oh yeah no k

obsidian wigeon
#

but 11600k is also as expensive

#

if not more

carmine swallow
#

Everything is expensive in Canada 😂

earnest olive
#

that's not true

obsidian wigeon
#

eh it's just in cad

earnest olive
#

as an american

obsidian wigeon
#

canadian market is decent

earnest olive
#

y'all don't have expensive healthcare

obsidian wigeon
#

it's just currency

earnest olive
potent portal
#

We live in crazy land

carmine swallow
#

Don't forget the 13% tax

earnest olive
#

listen

#

I might get my cpu for $50 cheaper

#

but if I randomly faint and someone calls an ambulance I'm on the hook for $6000

carmine swallow
#

In that sense, you're right

obsidian wigeon
#

tfw free here

carmine swallow
#

Free education till grade 12 and free HC is nice 👌

obsidian wigeon
#

even cancer treatment here is free, tho the queue is l o n g

#

gotta pay up like 1k for speedy treatment

potent portal
#

That $6000 is just the ambulance btw, it's $200 just for a bag of saline (salt water)

obsidian wigeon
#

which is hella cheap compared to america

earnest olive
#

my friend offered me her spare room if I ever need to escape to a civilized country

#

thinking about it

obsidian wigeon
#

ngl the american health care is

#

so messed up

#

people just wants to milk everyone's wallets

potent portal
#

I was seriously getting ready to move to Canada a few years back... but then they closed the border

earnest olive
#

I've had two canadian friends offer to take me in

obsidian wigeon
#

lmao

#

Thailand might have bleh prices for hardware, but I enjoy cheap healthcare anyway

earnest olive
#

I gotta smuggle some PC parts in before I take them up on that offer

carmine swallow
#

I cant complain since here all students got 6000$ when pandemic hit 😂

#

University students *

earnest olive
#

I can live in toronto for 400 cad/month or quebec for free which one am I picking 02think

obsidian wigeon
#

I could faint now and not pay a dime and wake up in the hospital

potent portal
carmine swallow
#

One of our gov parties was trying to privatize Healthcare and no one voted for them during elections xD

earnest olive
#

I don't speak french I think that will complicate living in quebec

potent portal
#

Nah there's a good mix of english and french speakers

sand falcon
earnest olive
#

I heard people in quebec will refuse to speak english despite being fluent in it

potent portal
#

You'll pick up the necessary words

potent portal
carmine swallow
#

lemme know what you guys think, its my first time so lemme know if i can make anything better

desert gulch
#

right above compatibility thingy

#

that one is just a blank one

carmine swallow
desert gulch
#

could def save on cpu cooler and that ssd

potent portal
#

Won't that put you at around $1000 cad though with the gpu?

desert gulch
#

and get a better psu, segotep same price after shipping

#

gp600p

carmine swallow
#

the gold certif one?

#

and sabrent 1tb was cheaper than 500 samsung evo here. idk what other decent ssds are there

earnest olive
carmine swallow
#

yea i did, if anything i could wait till black friday and hope i get a gpu amongst the craziness x.x

potent portal
#

I don't think they'll sell GPUs on black friday, there's enough fights and trampling as it is

earnest olive
#

lol

#

if black friday has gpus @ msrp

#

you'll see this on a real news site instead of the onion

carmine swallow
#

wtf that has to be fake news o.o

earnest olive
#

the onion is a satire site

#

i was saying that will be real news if there are gpus at msrp

carmine swallow
#

i could see that happening

carmine swallow
valid bronze
#

If there were msrp gpus on Black Friday, yea id do what it took to get one

carmine swallow
#

i think it'll be a while before gpus return close to msrp, but if i get them cheaper on black friday than they are right now, i'd definitely try an get my hands on one

#

also thinking of just using stock fans instead of the one I got on. I don't think that CPU will be running too hot

desert gulch
#

I was assuming youre in USA since you were using us pcpp

carmine swallow
#

ohhh ok

tight sorrel
fossil cedar
obsidian wigeon
#

huh

#

that's sad

fossil cedar
#

Yeah

fossil cedar
peak anvil
#

Any thoughts about this prebuild? Its currently on sale for around 2.4k euros, or about 2.8k usd and i was considering buying it, tho im not an expert in this field so i need some advice 😄

tight sorrel
#

specs look decent

feral bobcat
#

hi

#

i need expert advice advice

#

for building a 5900x 3080 system

#

something between mid to high range priced

fossil cedar
feral bobcat
#

video encoding 3d rendering pc gaming

#

2500/3000 usd max

tight sorrel
#

what applicaiton will you use for 3D rendering?

feral bobcat
#

hdr 2k ips 144hz at least

#

3ds max rhino v-ray

tight sorrel
#

hmmmm

feral bobcat
#

photoshop for editing renders

#

premiere pro

tight sorrel
#

Does max Vray have GPU rendering capabilities yet?

feral bobcat
#

yes of course

#

also for high-end gaming

#

i can't afford buying quadro

tight sorrel
#

pleas hold

feral bobcat
#

sorry

#

thank you

#

2tb ssd, not 2x1 tb for installing 10 games like on drive c

#

air cooler for cpu, 32gb ram

#

plus great gaming: dac, mouse, keyboard and also studio a monitor headphone

peak anvil
#

Im not an expert but it seems kinda hard to fit all of that with an 5900x 3080 build for only 3k usd, with the prices atleast in my country the 3080 plus the 5900x are already over that budget

feral bobcat
#

$5000?

#

i'm buying it from us

tight sorrel
feral bobcat
#

ok

#

5000

#

ok

#

5000 usd is ok

#

so

#

please choose the best components/etc

indigo forum
#

@peak anvil what country?

peak anvil
#

Serbia

indigo forum
#

Ohhh then its a lot of cash

tight sorrel
feral bobcat
peak anvil
#

Yeah, the prices are insane

indigo forum
#

I just but the most expensive things i can find thats not overkill

peak anvil
tight sorrel
#

Just work. 🙂

#

keyb/mouse/headphones... thats up to you

indigo forum
#

I bought 7000x chassie with 16 lian li of lian li fans

feral bobcat
indigo forum
#

Key?

#

I like the razer viper mouse

tight sorrel
feral bobcat
#

please add it

tight sorrel
feral bobcat
#

gigabyte sucks

indigo forum
#

I got 3080 rog strix oc

tight sorrel
feral bobcat
#

also, finger tip small size mouse

indigo forum
#

Razer viper

#

Perfect

feral bobcat
#

wrist rest key please

indigo forum
#

63 grams

#

On mousepad?

#

Google razer viper or razer deathadder or whatever its called

feral bobcat
indigo forum
#

Rog strix oc

feral bobcat
#

does MSI MPG B550 GAMING EDGE WIFI ATX AM4 Motherboard support bluetooth

indigo forum
#

Lemme check

#

802.11a/b/g/n/ac/ax, Bluetooth 5.1

tight sorrel
indigo forum
#

Yes

tight sorrel
#

and the way things are these days, just find the cheapest one you can get

tight sorrel
#

if you can get it, then get it

obsidian wigeon
#

that msi is fine

#

if you don't mine it's gonna be just fine without repads

feral bobcat
#

what about dac

#

studio quality dac

frank stirrup
tight sorrel
feral bobcat
#

thank you guys

fossil cedar
frank stirrup
#

You.

fossil cedar
frank stirrup
#

Tragedy

fossil cedar
fossil cedar
tight sorrel
frank stirrup
#

It ran out

#

I cant use emotes anymore

#

:(

fossil cedar
grizzled verge
#

Is this good?

#

Its around 2600 dollars if conveeted from peao

#

Php

fossil cedar
# grizzled verge

It would be bad if in the us, but idk what the market is like in the Philippines 02shrug

mossy venture
#

If it was in the US that'd be awful

#

You can get a 3080 ti build for the same price here

indigo forum
#

Do i need another psu for this build?

tight sorrel
#

should be fine

indigo forum
#

Tried it yday. Tons of error codes popped up for some reason

tight sorrel
#

what were the error codes?

mossy venture
#

Could be a cpu issue depending on the error codes

#

Or really anything issue

fossil cedar
fossil cedar
#

Could be ram or something

#

Unless psu is barely working and not supplying enough voltage it wouldn't be the psus fault

indigo forum
#

Fail checked everything without putting in new components

fossil cedar
#

Wdym by fail checked?

indigo forum
#

Ram brick switcharound to different locations

#

Clear cmos

#

Bios update

#

Unplug all pcie storage devices

mossy venture
#

Then you should probably update bios

indigo forum
#

Which i did

mossy venture
#

What happened after that

indigo forum
#

First it was error code 94 ever bootup ended with

mossy venture
#

You check the make sure cpu was in properly?

indigo forum
#

After bios update error codes kept spinning around.

vague oracle
#

On the Crosshair?

fossil cedar
#

@indigo forum first of all what is your problem?

vague oracle
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Could be a messed up bios chip not letting it update the bios

indigo forum
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Ye

fossil cedar
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Try updating the bios again yeah

vague oracle
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If it just doesn’t want to update I’d just RMA it

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I had the same thing happen to me with mine

indigo forum
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I did yday

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So waiting for sendback confirmation

vague oracle
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Asus is really nice with their RMA service

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I got a new mobo within a week

indigo forum
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I had 2/3 faulty mobos the past half year

mossy venture
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Asus is pog

mossy venture
indigo forum
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And i destroyed one too haha

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Buuuut! I have some accident insuranse so i got 800 dollars back from 2 old mobos, 2 keyboards i spilled coke on and a maximius hero xiii

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I had 1faulty z590 f gaming and now this

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And spilled coke on my apex 7 tkl and razer huntsman elite

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Do i need to mount the cpu holder before rma it?

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Nzxt was so easy to mount… i thought… is this a joke lol

vague oracle
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Yeah it has to have those plastic pieces attached

little osprey
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That reminds me, the PCIe slot plastic retention clip thing broke off on my x99 mobo lol

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Super glue hasn't helped 🗿

empty cliff
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guys I need help, I just theory crafted my build but have no idea if its any good or not since I'm new to building a PC

mossy venture
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Never buy the 3800x

empty cliff
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so I'm better of just buying a prebuilt, but is that because graphics cards are out of stock or something else>

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?

mossy venture
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5600x

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I mean

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Partially yes

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But also, no offense, judging by the parts list you don't know much about pcs