building-and-recc-chat

[fossil cedar]

It's the model number that's more important

Ryzen 5000 is newer

[potent portal]

Zen 3 was a massive boost over Zen 2

Completely crushed Intel

[fossil cedar]

Yup

[ripe relic]

so

it will work better?

[fossil cedar]

intel cries in 8 cores

[fossil cedar]

For your workload yes, and it has integrated graphics which means you'll actually be able to use the pc til you get a graphics card

[ripe relic]

that's really smart

ty :D

[fossil cedar]

Your welcome

[ripe relic]

i don't like assassins creed lol

[fossil cedar]

Not the point lol

They're using it as a benchmark

[ripe relic]

i see

[potent portal]

The takeaway is:
Single core stuff like gaming it's basically the same
Multi core stuff like rendering more cores is better

[ripe relic]

alright well ty :D

[potent portal]

But the 5600g has the APU for graphics as a bonus

[fossil cedar]

The motherboard could also be swapped for a cheaper better board but if ya don't feel like returning it will do nicely too

[potent portal]

Yeah honestly a lot of B550 boards are better than X570, and the vast majority of people don't need the extra features like more PCIe lanes and 2 more USB ports

[ripe relic]

yeah man I don't know much about pcs

[fossil cedar]

We all start somewhere

[potent portal]

That's why we're here

[fossil cedar]

Yeah that's fine you might just need to flash the bios of the motherboard

[rigid thunder]

For anyone who is kind enough to help I have an asus Rampage III black edition lga 1366 motherboard and Asus is not keeping up with the bios for a while now it’s an older one 2011 and I need to be able to purchase a newer one however the chip I have the CPU is a 990x 1366 so any suggestions on what I should do?

[ripe relic]

no clue what that is

[potent portal]

For the price of an older motherboard like that you're better off buying a new, low end CPU and motherboard with cheap memory

[fossil cedar]

It's updating the bios but if ya need help with it majority of ppl here should be able to help ya it's fairly simple, well explained in the manual

[ripe relic]

uhhhh

when i get the pc together will it tell me to do that so i know when to ask?

[potent portal]

Probably not an issue, most boards are updated enough these days

[rigid thunder]

I need something that can’t handle my four monitors

[ripe relic]

can't?

[fossil cedar]

It just won't boot up if it needs an update but it should be g

[rigid thunder]

Can

Sorry

[ripe relic]

alright so if it doesn't do I just ask someone in the discord and they will help me?

[fossil cedar]

Then a new low end cpu will do a better/just as good job also you'll need like a gt710 or other graphics card for that, integrated gpus can usually only handle 1, sometimes 2 monitors

[fossil cedar]

Yep

[fossil cedar]

fair enough

still need a gpu tho lol

[potent portal]

You'd still need a GPU ya

[rigid thunder]

Trying to get reset back up for stock trading again don’t mind paying for whatever will work with what I have now up to a point of course

[potent portal]

What budget for this upgrade? Do you have a GPU already?

[rigid thunder]

Around $1500

[potent portal]

Oh geez that's a whole new gaming PC budget

[rigid thunder]

XFX Radeon HD 6990 4GB GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 Video Card with

[fossil cedar]

@rigid thunder its just an office pc right?

1500 usd is super duper way to much overkill btw

[rigid thunder]

Its 10 years old except my monitors are new but won’t work

[fossil cedar]

ill make you a list

its just an office pc ye?

[rigid thunder]

Thank you

[potent portal]

Working on one too, we'll see how ours compare

[rigid thunder]

Home office yes

[fossil cedar]

any features wanted?

wifi etc

[rigid thunder]

Yes

[potent portal]

Just getting these 3 parts will get you up and running, and set up for the future. You can reuse all your old parts. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/k8bYkX

[rigid thunder]

Already have my AOC monitors G line second generation 29 inch curved gaming monitors

Thank you guy’s for your time and help

[fossil cedar]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CxRtz7 i would do something like this for a premium setup

but falcies would do too

[potent portal]

That 710 gets curb stomped by the 6990 he has already

[fossil cedar]

ahh didnt realise they had a gpu already

[rigid thunder]

Thank you Fal’Cie and Pato

[potent portal]

Even with crossfire off, that 6990 is 500% faster

[fossil cedar]

yeye go with that missed the bit where a gpu was already there

[rigid thunder]

Does it matter that i have CORSAIR DOMINATOR GT 12GB (3 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2000

[fossil cedar]

that wont work

[potent portal]

Yeah so your options are save money and go for something like my build or go premium with Pato's (minus the GPU)

DDR3 memory won't fit in DDR4

[rigid thunder]

Ah

[red dragon]

I have a quick question, just got a new case and it has an LED control plug that looks kind of similar to like a sata connector but obviously different. Is that something I connect to my mobo?

[potent portal]

You know, I bet you could sell that dominator memory for a good price. Fast DDR3 is hard to find these days.

[potent portal]

Put a picture of the connector in #build-pics

[red dragon]

Done

[potent portal]

That plugs into the power supply, it's a sata power connector for extra juice

[rigid thunder]

Today is my first day of using discord is there any way I can send y’all a picture of list of my components? which then you may want to to add or take stuff away

[fossil cedar]

sure

You can dm me and I'll repost it

[rigid thunder]

I don’t know how to DM

[fossil cedar]

Click on my name and there should be a message option

[red dragon]

Sweet okay. Im just trying to figure out if I need to order any adapters to get everything working with my board. Thank you

[rigid thunder]

Ok thanks

[low tinsel]

@flint sapphire going to micro center today

Lucky me, hope they have the good stuff

[flint sapphire]

good luck

you're lucky that u live near one

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Awesomerob4/saved/bMsQP6

friend would like opinions

[earnest olive]

my opinion is "why"

only people that should be buying a 5700g should be deskmini users

[cursive tusk]

hey guys any psus u would recommend for 650W Fully Modular under 120?

[little osprey]

5600g instead is what i told them

If they want vega

[potent portal]

Revolution D.F.

[cursive tusk]

I got this in my cart for now

[little osprey]

Ew no

[earnest olive]

assuming they want to drop-in upgrade a gpu later, the zen 3 APUs have painfully gimped cache that make them not anywhere near as good as the CPUs

really don't know why they did that

[little osprey]

So which cpu then

[potent portal]

A tier, one of our top recommendations
https://www.walmart.com/ip/ENERMAX-Revolution-D-F-80-Plus-Gold-Certified-PSU-650W/299550807

[earnest olive]

depends on how long he expects to be on igpu and what he will play on it

the 5600g does still have a more powerful igpu than intel uhd 750

[cursive tusk]

Never heard of Revolution DF is it a reliable brand?

[earnest olive]

who cares about brand

[potent portal]

Absolutely, it'll take anything you throw at it up to about a 3070 ti at that power rating

[south kite]

It’s a good unit

[earnest olive]

anyways @little osprey i5-11500 (or 11600K if you can't find 11500/11600) would have the benefit of not being gimped cpu side with an eventual dgpu upgrade

but if he's going to try AAA gaming on the vega 7 for whatever reason then sure go 5600g

[cursive tusk]

Damn

is nzxt psu good or should I ditch it and get another brandV?

[earnest olive]

...

[south kite]

He didn’t just answer that?

[earnest olive]

stop caring so much about brands

if you are going to reject peoples' advice then why ask for it in the first place

[fossil cedar]

@little osprey https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2Zd7QD i would go 5600g if it's just for gaming tho

[potent portal]

It's the same tier as the DF I linked, so effectively the same but more money

[fossil cedar]

Actually revolution df is multi rail as well so

[earnest olive]

i'd definitely say revo df 650w will comfortably run a 3080 depending on the cpu

[cursive tusk]

Oh ok thx a lot tho

[earnest olive]

and can run a 3090 if you've got a 5600x but if you can afford a 3090 you can afford 750/850w and not have to squeeze

[cursive tusk]

oh no I’m going with a 3060

so I’m fine

[south kite]

Then 650 is more than enough

[fossil cedar]

If you got 3090 money you got 1000w money XD

[potent portal]

Lol 3060 runs on a 550W so yeah

[earnest olive]

3060 can run perfectly fine on a $30 450BR

should you? probably not

can you? yeah

[fossil cedar]

It would run but i wouldn't

[potent portal]

Depending on the CPU but yeah, that's a really low power GPU

I wouldn't stick a 10700k on that, it draws like 250W alone before Tau limits

[earnest olive]

i've gone 2060 with 450BR before for a customer on a tight budget

didn't have any problems

paired with a 100W cpu

[potent portal]

3060 uses about as much power as the 2070

[south kite]

With like a 10400 then sure

Or 5600x

[potent portal]

Yeah those are lower power class chips

[cursive tusk]

CPU is i5-10600k

[earnest olive]

2060 - 160W
3060 - 170W

2070 - 175W

all pretty much the same

[potent portal]

True enough

[earnest olive]

add like 15% tops for factory oced with higher power limits

[cursive tusk]

aren’t older gpus less power efficient than today’s ?

[earnest olive]

depends on your definition of efficient

[south kite]

Just get the 650w you’ll run better efficiency not using all of it

[earnest olive]

performance/watt yes

but total power draw is going up and up

last gen flagship was 250W

now we have flagship cards hitting 450W without even needing modifications of any sort

[potent portal]

500W on the kingpin cards

[earnest olive]

oh kp comes with a stock 500w vbios?

interesting

[potent portal]

Yeah lemme find it

[earnest olive]

thought 450w was the stock limit

[fossil cedar]

Ye the 1000w has to be flashed

[potent portal]

https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/227017/evga-rtx3090-24576-201110

520W with maxed power limit

[earnest olive]

nice

my 3080 is limited to 370W

[potent portal]

That's ok, at stock my 3090 is limited to 390W

[earnest olive]

my power limit slider doesn't go above 100%

and i can't flash any other vbios to increase it

2x 8 pin

[potent portal]

That 390W is after I apply a +11% power boost

[earnest olive]

[potent portal]

350W bone stock

[fossil cedar]

neither does mine gigabyte moment

https://tenor.com/view/high-five-apir-news-news-report-alright-gif-4874001

[earnest olive]

I'm replacing "gigglebyte" with "gigaboom" in light of their recent power supply statement

[potent portal]

https://tenor.com/view/transformers-prime-star-scream-data-work-nothing-gif-12065937

[earnest olive]

https://youtu.be/tVQsxLfKPNI

@south kite that is a crazy looking system

you stream with the second one?

[south kite]

Yes I do.

[earnest olive]

neat

[south kite]

And thanks

[earnest olive]

what are the specs

[south kite]

Gaming system is a 5800x/3070 and the stream is the 10700k I was gaming on before

[potent portal]

Dual system, very nice

[south kite]

Was having trouble selling it so I used it and already had the waterblock too so it worked out

[south kite]

Thanks

Really wanted a 6800xt but in this market I’m happy I got my 3070 for $860

[earnest olive]

cute system

[south kite]

If I can eventually get a 6800xt at $650 then I’ll upgrade

[potent portal]

Yeah if you have the dedicated stream computer you don't need the nvenc from a nvidia gpu, so amd is a decent choice

[south kite]

Or just wait for next gen and hope pricing levels out lol

[potent portal]

That too, lots of people being forced to do that but all indications are next gen will be even worse on pricing, msrp will be higher in every tier

[south kite]

I’m pondering dropping from 2k to 1080p for gaming. Even so the 3070 is Doing great

[potent portal]

3070 should be great at 1440p. Only reason really to drop resolution is to get more frames out of it.

[south kite]

Right, kinda wondering about that cause it’s time for a monitor upgrade

[foggy sand]

Hey I'm gonna build a pc for a friend. He wants a gtx 1650 and I was wondering whats a good ryzen cpu

[earnest olive]

why ryzen

get an i3-10100 or 10105

ryzen cannot compete in this budget segment

[echo vale]

tru

[foggy sand]

Oki

[low tinsel]

No luck

[foggy sand]

Hmm I've been researching and it says that a ryzen 5 2600x is the most compatible

Doesn't seem right

[drifting garnet]

I need help my friend wants a gaming laptop under $800 what are some decent ones?

[low tinsel]

Gonna have to go back to micro center Wednesday and Friday for a raffle and stuff like that since that’s when they re stock

The stuff within my price range was terrible

Best thing they had within 600 was a 1050 TI

U think it was a 6700 that was like 800+

But yah know. Out of my budget for that

[fossil cedar]

That would be an awful choice, i3 10100/10105 or i5 10400/11400/11500 with a b560 board or ryzen 5 5600x with a b550

[fossil cedar]

Hp spectre i believe its called

[foggy sand]

@fossil cedar dis good Shared List https://newegg.io/0c1d4a6

[drifting garnet]

Hp Pavilion?

[fossil cedar]

Nonononononono they would be way better getting this https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali548/p/N82E16883360168?itemPosition=1-12&exactIndex=0 and an msi g242 monitor then mouse and keyboard is preference

[fossil cedar]

Spectre is their gaming lineup I'm pretty sure

Sorry did they want a gaming one or regular use?

[drifting garnet]

Gaming

[fossil cedar]

Spectre is their gaming laptops iirc but I'll have a look

Okay i can't find spectre i must be thinking of something else

https://www.hp.com/us-en/shop/ConfigureView?urlLangId=&catalogId=10051&langId=-1&storeId=10151&catEntryId=3074457345619889826&quantity=1

This with the 16gb ram config aint too bad

I'll see what else there is tho

[drifting garnet]

Ok

[untold stone]

Build for war zone? For around $800

[fossil cedar]

Hp one seems to be the best one i can find

[peak ginkgo]

Give us your budget

[little osprey]

Thx @fossil cedar

[fossil cedar]

Welc

[little osprey]

Dude said ram was for igpu vram

is 4000mhz necessary ? 3600 is fine right

[fossil cedar]

3600 is fine but 4000mhz can be achieved with the apu and also the kit i picked out is like 35$ cheaper

Although is it worth over 3600cl18 for example

Ebhh

Idk

[little osprey]

Idk the dude sent a $900 igpu system

Questioning how much they know about pcs

370 for 5700g just for rocket league

[fossil cedar]

900 will get you a 1660 super i5

[little osprey]

same igpu as 5600g right

both vega 8

[fossil cedar]

More igpu cores in 5700g

[little osprey]

Not worth 100 though

would rather

save for gpu

[fossil cedar]

Ye

Unless they needed 8c

[little osprey]

can anyone help me build a pc

i already have a ryzen 3700x and it will be used for editing videos and gaming

You already bought it

what other parts you got?

that's all i have

my friend gave me it but doesn't know much about pc's

That’s a nice friend

So what’s your budget?

[fossil cedar]

Budget and can you return the 3700x?

[little osprey]

I think it’s a hand me down probably

yeah

and under 2k

he had it for a month and upgraded

Okay so we can make you a list but you gotta do some hard work to make it come together

Finding a GPU isn’t that easy right now

yeah

You live near a micro center?

i'm away from home but i live about an hour from one

Or best buy

That’s awesome

in fairfax va

Nice

yeah

(i’m jealous)

[restive halo]

Anyone available to help me for a sec

[little osprey]

i live 18h drive from the tustin ca one

Sure what’s up

[little osprey]

I’ll get you a list

alright thanks

[fossil cedar]

Ohh right

[restive halo]

Im in the process of redoing a cpu cooler and he does not have thermal paste? There is some left on the cpu but everything is closed other than Walmart. He needs the computer tomorrow and I work all day?

[fossil cedar]

Well btw you won't be able to use the pc til you find a graphic card

[little osprey]

Pato what’s a good cooler for higher end cpus

[fossil cedar]

Scythe fuma

[little osprey]

You probably want that thermal paste

[fossil cedar]

But for 3700x same as i5s

[little osprey]

Ah thx forgot the name

[fossil cedar]

You making a list for guy above?

[little osprey]

so do microcenters sell graphics cards

[restive halo]

😩

[fossil cedar]

Yup, I've a buying guide in #graphics-cards in the pins if you wanna check it out

Might be useful

[little osprey]

thanks

[fossil cedar]

Np

[little osprey]

Idk higher end parts so you can do this time

I’m failing at finding a mobo

thinking strix b550f maybe

[fossil cedar]

Tuf

I bed soon so my energy

Take a shot and I'll look over it

If ya want to ofc

[little osprey]

Yes sir

2tb 870qvo or 2tb hard drive

think for video editing we could put a 1tb nvme in there instead of a sata drive

[fossil cedar]

1tb or 500gb nvme and a 2tb wd blue

Hdd

[little osprey]

For video editing?

Wouldn’t it be slow(er) to load the content

Did you mean the wd blue ssd

[fossil cedar]

Nah hdd is fine

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NXLTQD

added 2tb pilot e cause lots left in budget

Gpu probably won’t go for msrp unless micro center is nice

There’s so much left to spend tho

[fossil cedar]

Nice job only thing i would do is adjust price https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fFdQrr

[little osprey]

might want to save that for monitor keyboard mouse

[fossil cedar]

Of 3080

[little osprey]

Ye

too lazy to change lol

Thanks

I passed the test ✊

[fossil cedar]

[little osprey]

@little osprey

Okay good night pato

[fossil cedar]

Thank good night

[little osprey]

thanks guys

Yea good luck finding a gpu

[little osprey]

i literally just got a free amd 5770 from my uncle

what do i even do with this

[stoic island]

Radeon hd 5770?

It's like uhd 620 level

Isn't exactly a modern GPU

[little osprey]

igpu probably same or better

[serene pulsar]

Random build I did

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/krcKvf

Goods and bads ?

[desert gulch]

Great, could def save a little on Mobo and ssd

But overall will be a great build

[worn wave]

Case is way overpriced and outdated, go B550 instead of X570, PCIe 4.0 is not needed and SSD is overpriced

Same thing as said above really

[desert gulch]

Yeah

Will still perform and look very nice

[serene pulsar]

B550 instead of X570??

Why

[stoic island]

Cheap

[worn wave]

X570 is way more expensive for little benefit

[stoic island]

X570, the chipset, offers no direct performance benefit over B550, the chipset, for most cases.

[serene pulsar]

Okay

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/644WF8

[stoic island]

Sure a 300$ X570 Unify is going to have better VRMs and be able to handle a 5950x better than a 80$ b550 ds3h or smth, but that has to do with VRMs, not the chipset (also crappier memory traces and stuff)

[serene pulsar]

How about now

Gotcha gotcha

[stoic island]

What's with the case

And the SSD

[worn wave]

You only need a $100 NVMe really

[stoic island]

135$ P31 is peak day to day performance you can reasonable get in a SSD

Evo plus has other uses

[serene pulsar]

Case is good with the RGB appeal and the case also has one front tempered glass panel and one side panel. They are allowing you to observe the runnings and aesthetics of your computer case easily. Additionally, the Carbide omega features a lighting node in the front that will enable you to circulate through 30 RGB lights. It has two RGB led fans as well that flow through a more significant number of colors, but it’s the lighting node in the front that sets the Spec-Omega apart. It creates beautiful atmospheric light, and the company understands that the lights may not be enough for certain people.

[worn wave]

That means nothing really

[stoic island]

90-100$ sn550 1tb and such will have practically the best performance you'll notice

[serene pulsar]

😂 I searched up best cases RGB

2021

[worn wave]

There are many cases way cheaper that offer all of those things and are way better performing

[stoic island]

You're missing a big half of what goes into choosing a case

Performance

[obsidian wigeon]

front tempered glass panel

ewww

[desert gulch]

980 pro is 110 for a 1tb, p good value rn

[obsidian wigeon]

rip airflow generally

[desert gulch]

Goes on sale for less sometimes

[worn wave]

"top 10 insert part here" lists are usually awful

[stoic island]

You mean 980

Not pro

[desert gulch]

Yeah

Non pro

Lol

[stoic island]

Ye 980 works too

[desert gulch]

Was 93.50 for a 1tb a couple days ago

[stoic island]

Just need to be a good price

[desert gulch]

Insane value

[obsidian wigeon]

id prefer sn550 myself, i like savin every bucks

[stoic island]

Ye

[serene pulsar]

It comes with lots of fanning and room to customize fanning features. Also with the design of the PC case ensures that optimal airflow is easily maintainable throughout the chassis. The design ensures that the hottest components of your PC efficiently get fresh air.

[desert gulch]

It's $110 rn

[obsidian wigeon]

sn550 sometimes goes below 100

[stoic island]

Uh

[worn wave]

lmfao

[stoic island]

Are you the Corsair marketing department

[worn wave]

"optimal airflow" maybe quite a few years ago

[obsidian wigeon]

lots of fans doesn't mean it's good

[stoic island]

Because that's all marketing bs

[serene pulsar]

Yes sending you the message they put xd

[stoic island]

:p

[obsidian wigeon]

are you reading off their marketing

[desert gulch]

You copy pasted lmao

[worn wave]

Epic front mesh

lmfao

Little tiny spot at the bottom

[obsidian wigeon]

lil mesh

[serene pulsar]

Honestly just trying to find whichever one is able to have RGB fans and cooking

[stoic island]

@serene pulsar I can give you a metal box with no intake or exhaust, and say it has state of the art quantum cooling solution, that's what marketing departments do :p

[worn wave]

P400A

[little osprey]

When i choose a case i look at the storage bays, cable management, and mesh front panel

[obsidian wigeon]

just add fans yoself

[little osprey]

td500 mesh

[serene pulsar]

I did hear mesh is best case

[stoic island]

P500a, td500 mesh, lancool ii mesh, etc

[little osprey]

lancool mesh 2

[worn wave]

Not that small piece of mesh

[desert gulch]

Danny why is your last name so good?

Lol

[obsidian wigeon]

if you're gonna build might as well add fans or get some good case with mesh n rgb fans

[serene pulsar]

??

[desert gulch]

Split it down the middle

[little osprey]

p360a,p400a,p500a,4000D,5000D

etc

[serene pulsar]

What are you talking about mate

[little osprey]

Dunno

[desert gulch]

Haddad

It's p good

[stoic island]

4000d 5000d is weird place because it'd be good to add another fan, instead of just using it stock with fans included, which knocks the price up

[desert gulch]

Had-dad

[desert gulch]

P500a FTW

[stoic island]

Like the case (4000d airflow and 5000d airflow) is good

Just price might not be as great as other options

[serene pulsar]

Why the heck would you be searching me up my guy

I’m just trying to build a pc

[desert gulch]

Nothin

[worn wave]

Your Youtube is linked to Discord.

[desert gulch]

11 dollar 4000d

[serene pulsar]

Im aware

[worn wave]

Don't link it if you don't want people looking at it

[desert gulch]

That sadly was not real

[stoic island]

Ye Walmart messed up pricing

[desert gulch]

Lmao

[serene pulsar]

I don’t care so much about it just was curious

[desert gulch]

I sent them a super agro email and they still haven't responded

[worn wave]

Lmfao

[serene pulsar]

Thanks for the free advice

[desert gulch]

Now imma go after walmart

[stoic island]

You're welcome

[desert gulch]

I want my 4000d for 11 dollars still

[serene pulsar]

So a mesh case

[worn wave]

A lot of mesh

[desert gulch]

And I'm trying to get the "damaged" 4000d the company withheld from me

Very mesh

P500a is really nice

Around $130 rn I think

Also comes with fans

[serene pulsar]

Bro I don’t get why people be making so many lists of best this and that for computer parts and everyone always saying it’s bad lol

[ripe wedge]

@desert gulch what happened?

[serene pulsar]

Y’all should be making the lists

[stoic island]

@serene pulsar just think of it this way,
Opening for air to get through = good
Decorative stuff blocking intake = bad

[little osprey]

Performance>looks

Make a balance though

[stoic island]

You can't magically pull air through glass, just remember that

[serene pulsar]

Is there RGB case with Mesh?

[little osprey]

Yeah tons

lol

[stoic island]

P500a p400a td500 mesh lancool ii mesh all rgb

[little osprey]

Yooo

That’s sick bruh

You paid like $10 and actually get a case

[stoic island]

Nah

[desert gulch]

No?

[stoic island]

They reject

[little osprey]

Oh

[stoic island]

They say to buy it again

[desert gulch]

Read the email you fourhead

[little osprey]

9$)$

[desert gulch]

Lol

[little osprey]

*Ohhhh

i’m illiterate

[stoic island]

Get some sleep

[little osprey]

Exposed

[desert gulch]

I want them to give me the "damaged" one

Since I know it doesn't exist

You don't out a damaged case up for sale for such a specific price, like 11.34

[little osprey]

Yeah i need sleep lol two soccer matches and went to the beach i haven’t been home since 6am and it’s 8pm now

[desert gulch]

Just doesn't make sense

[worn wave]

They could just make up some excuse like it's against store policy to give damaged items

or some crap like that

[desert gulch]

Don't worry I sent them hella agro email

I'll ss and send it here

[worn wave]

I doubt they will respond tho lmao

[stoic island]

Best for one guy isn't the best for another guy, different knowledge, different usages, and of course, time changes things

[desert gulch]

Idc anymore, I just wanna screw with them

[little osprey]

Lmao

Red thistbh

[stoic island]

Sure I'll try my best to tell you what is best from my knowledge, but I'm not omnipotent, I can be wrong

[desert gulch]

Have fun reading this

[little osprey]

Bruh

i couldn’t even read your other one

[desert gulch]

Download it

And open it in photos

[little osprey]

No i meant my brain isn’t functioning

Lol😆

[stoic island]

Lol

[desert gulch]

Ok

Lol

[little osprey]

Is that an actual law

or did you just copy a random quote

i mean code not quote

[stoic island]

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/15/1125

[worn wave]

lmfao that is incredible

[little osprey]

whatamidoing

financial strain

lmfao $11

[strange epoch]

I want to win a newegg shuffle :(

[ripe wedge]

ooof

[stoic island]

"The ideology of a confirmation needing to be carried through described in the prior...", 'ideology' doesn't really seem like the right word

[little osprey]

he’s just bsing

lol

cram as much bs to make it seem long and important

[stoic island]

Like I understand making it wordy, and that's fun, but not making sense is sad

[ripe wedge]

$11 brought financial strain onto you

[serene pulsar]

Corsair Obsidian Series 500D RGB SE Premium Mid-Tower Case, 3 RGB Fans, Smoked Tempered Glass, Aluminum Trim, Integrated Commander PRO fan and lighting controller (CC-9011139-WW) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07C46L1D8/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_XAXNZJR5ESYK6MBGZBAZ?psc=1

Bad or good

[little osprey]

Ehhhhh

[serene pulsar]

In your opinions

[stoic island]

Bad

We were talking about 5000d airflow earlier

[serene pulsar]

Have y’all seen the 1000D of it

It’s huge

[stoic island]

Not 500d, btw

[little osprey]

Why 500D

i’d avoid corsair unless it’s like 4000d or 5000D

Idk how the airflow on 280x is

seen lots of people with that case

[stoic island]

@serene pulsar example good
https://www.amazon.com/Phanteks-PH-EC500ATG_DBK01-Full-Metal-Mid-Tower-Digital-RGB/dp/B088T3VMKK/

Iirc 140$ on wegg but yea

[desert gulch]

Idc

It was like 1am lol so I just did that

[stoic island]

I care, because I don't care.

Is fun

[desert gulch]

I always make mistakes and don't catch them

[little osprey]

Can you write my essays

Thx

[desert gulch]

Nah

[little osprey]

Thx

[desert gulch]

Here's a great tip, voice to text

It's honestly kinda a life saver

Lots of revision is needed but it's amazing for doing a first draft

[serene pulsar]

Friend got the Fractal Design Meshify-C

Probably good one right

[desert gulch]

That's a nice case

Yeah

[little osprey]

I’m just sitting in the back row shouting into my computer with my whole essay

[worn wave]

It's a great case with an extra fan in the front

[peak ginkgo]

It's a really good case. Great airflow

[worn wave]

I ordered a Meshify 2 Compact when it first released to do a build in for fun

[serene pulsar]

P400 vs P500

[worn wave]

P500a is pretty much just bigger

[serene pulsar]

So I don’t understand sometjing

[worn wave]

Comes with 140mm fans in front instead of 120mm in front I do believe

[desert gulch]

For at home more

Do revising at school

Hella easy

[serene pulsar]

Why do people like Alienware and that one Corsair case and super high end cases have crazy designs and no mesh but be great expensive cases

[little osprey]

alienware sucks

[desert gulch]

Ive done a five page essay in a day using that

[little osprey]

No mesh is bad airlflow

[desert gulch]

Alienware is sorta a status for some people

[serene pulsar]

Like I’ve seen some amazing designs

[little osprey]

bad cooling

[desert gulch]

Like "I can afford Alienware"

[little osprey]

Cool design but 0 intake

[worn wave]

Because some people think looks is more important than price to performance and performance in general

[desert gulch]

Yeah

[little osprey]

2010 type beat

[desert gulch]

Mhmm

[serene pulsar]

I mean the only person looking at my computer is me

So I don’t care too much about the design

[little osprey]

Unless you flex it on the internet

[serene pulsar]

I do like the RGB

True

But it’s only gonna be a 1500-2000$ build

[little osprey]

Only

[serene pulsar]

Not out of this world crazy

Like some

[worn wave]

I always try to buy cases with solid side panels and I use noctua fans

[little osprey]

[desert gulch]

Yeah p500a is definitely worth checking out

[serene pulsar]

Bruh I’ve worked hard for the money for it

I don’t buy nothing but save money

[desert gulch]

Lancool ii is a good looking case with great airflow too

[little osprey]

Nah i meant you said “only” 1.5k lol

[serene pulsar]

I saw the Lianli one

[little osprey]

I can’t even afford a new gpu

[serene pulsar]

Compared to these 3000$- higher builds I see?

[desert gulch]

It's all in perspective

[serene pulsar]

1500 is standard price

For all these computers

[peak ginkgo]

Really bad. I rather deal with HP cases and they leave a lot to be desired so that's saying a lot

[serene pulsar]

Wanting actual FPS gameplay at high setting

[worn wave]

Budgets can be any amount of money

You could have a $500 budget or a $5000 budget

[serene pulsar]

Pato gave me 1500$ prebuilt one said it’s best on market

[worn wave]

Price to performance

[serene pulsar]

But idk still about prebuilt vs building

[worn wave]

Best on the market for the price

[serene pulsar]

Still thinking I want to build

Yeah

How long y’all been in this discord or knew about Newegg

[stoic island]

Alienware is simple, Alienware spends their budget on slapping plastic on a Dell PC

[serene pulsar]

Oh i wasn’t promoting

[peak ginkgo]

For me, since early this year but I haven't been active until the last couple months. Been busy with work and family due to going back into the office full time again

[serene pulsar]

I see it 24:7 in League of Legends advertising for esports but it’s not so good

[obsidian wigeon]

i've been in newegg server for only since early this year

[serene pulsar]

Oh wow nice man. Glad to hear you get to go back

[peak ginkgo]

This, but they leave the ugly silver on the inside and use ugly green PCBs

[serene pulsar]

I think after so long it’s nice to go back

[worn wave]

Iunno I been in here for a year I think

[serene pulsar]

Online just isn’t the same after a while

I joined 2 weeks ago

Comepletly new to building pcs

[worn wave]

I just go through periods of not checking this server when im busy with stuff

[serene pulsar]

I have a i3 laptop

[worn wave]

I have known about Newegg for quite awhile and I have been building PCs for a few years

[serene pulsar]

And just want to game at higher then lowest settings on every game 😂

How can you afford to build so many

You mean like just build

[stoic island]

Yea :(

[serene pulsar]

Or build and buy

[obsidian wigeon]

pc flipping is a thing

[green laurel]

Got it working with battery on mb thanks for help

[serene pulsar]

Oh so buying for others

[obsidian wigeon]

like buy stuff, put it together and sell

[serene pulsar]

Building for others**

[serene pulsar]

What is all the tubes

[peak ginkgo]

I've been back to work since last November, my company's been back officially since July of this year. I'm in IT so we are considered essential workers

[obsidian wigeon]

the tubes are custom loop

[worn wave]

Custom loop watercooling

[peak ginkgo]

Lots of people online due to Covid than normal but I think things are slowing down since people are going back to work, school, and their lives

[green laurel]

I thought i bricked the 3090😬

[desert gulch]

Brick a MSI 3080 if anything

[serene pulsar]

I’m feeling the same. I’m happy to get back to normal

[obsidian wigeon]

meanwhile im basically online all the time

[desert gulch]

And they may give you a 3090 after rma

[serene pulsar]

I got school stuff coming up and don’t know if I even have time to get pc

that’s why I don’t wanna buy prebuilt

[peak ginkgo]

Same, nothing's changed for me, really. Just changed some of the things that I do online.

[serene pulsar]

Like no time to play compared to when quarantine happened

Might as well wait to build nice one either cyber Monday or when gpu comes back

Which I have no idea when

[peak ginkgo]

A custom built one is more expensive but well worth it and easily upgradeable in the long run

[serene pulsar]

Exactly!

[obsidian wigeon]

I mean abs prebuilts are pretty decent

[serene pulsar]

Long run is important

[obsidian wigeon]

you could get a 3070 for 1.5k

[worn wave]

Custom builds are not always more expensive than pre builts

[obsidian wigeon]

1499 precisely

[serene pulsar]

Can switch GPU and cpu later on and keep the rest

[worn wave]

Depends on the brand

[obsidian wigeon]

and it's all standard off the shelf stuff

[stoic island]

Used to be cheaper 98% of the time

[obsidian wigeon]

no bloatware too

[desert gulch]

1499.99 actually

[serene pulsar]

Bruh

[obsidian wigeon]

they just give you RGB software and such

[serene pulsar]

These responses always got me dying

[obsidian wigeon]

ye, but it's like 1.5k

[serene pulsar]

Hold up one thing I’m curious about

[peak ginkgo]

Those were the good ol days but I build something to last me for years so I don't mind spending for quality stuff

[serene pulsar]

When you building a computer instead of prebuilt..

Do you have to program it

[desert gulch]

No

[serene pulsar]

To turn on

And to work RGb

And all that

[stoic island]

Of course, but you can often buy the quality stuff for cheaper than you would pay to get it in a prebuild

[desert gulch]

Just installed your operating system

[obsidian wigeon]

You have to install windows to use it

[desert gulch]

For like windows or whatever

[obsidian wigeon]

But that's it

[desert gulch]

That's it

Ye

[serene pulsar]

Other then windows

[desert gulch]

Nope

[obsidian wigeon]

Yeah, drivers

[desert gulch]

Install what you want

[obsidian wigeon]

You have to install em

Mainly for the gpu

[desert gulch]

Like RGB software or whatever

It's basically a bone stock windows

[serene pulsar]

Do most name brand stuff like Radeon GPU come with instruction

[peak ginkgo]

Oof, I absolutely hate prebuilt or any OS since they all have bloatware in them. Every time I get a new PC from work, I install a clean copy of Windows and install what I need so I won't have any bloatware

[desert gulch]

You'll have to install it's software

[serene pulsar]

How

[desert gulch]

But you can just download it off Google or whatever

[serene pulsar]

The computer isn’t on yet

[desert gulch]

When it is

[stoic island]

Abs prebuilt and the skytech one had no bloatware afaik

[obsidian wigeon]

yeh

[desert gulch]

The PC will still turn on

[serene pulsar]

Doesn’t it need graphic card

To turn on

[desert gulch]

Sometimes

[obsidian wigeon]

depends

some cpus has no igpu

[desert gulch]

If you have integrated graphics

[obsidian wigeon]

some has

[peak ginkgo]

True, especially when higher end parts are being put into them, its cheaper to buy the parts separately under normal circumstances

[desert gulch]

It will

[serene pulsar]

Oh no🤧 more terms

[desert gulch]

Lol

[obsidian wigeon]

if you don't have igpu, it's needed to have a dedicated gpu

[serene pulsar]

I’ll pay somebody money to help me figure this stuff out when I and if I order stuff

[obsidian wigeon]

igpu means integrated gpu, it's generally in the cpu itself

[serene pulsar]

Cause holy🤧

[obsidian wigeon]

in early days, it used to be on board

but nowadays it's on cpu

[serene pulsar]

Oh and this stuff about my motherboard needing bios stuff

[stoic island]

think about it this way, windows comes with rudimentary display drivers, so you can use the GPU before downloading the drivers, but you won't have a great time before you install the specific driver

[serene pulsar]

Every time I add Any Asus mobo

More programming?

[stoic island]

no

[serene pulsar]

And driver stuff

[stoic island]

it's not a brand thing

[serene pulsar]

Oh shoot

That’s very helpful

You’re good at explaining

Want money to help me build?

😂😂😂

[stoic island]

but also remember, drivers are software, won't help you if you don't have a gpu

nah, I'm free

[serene pulsar]

Okay

I buy you for free

[stoic island]

yes

I work now

[peak ginkgo]

Lol

[serene pulsar]

I should just watch someone unbox new parts and put together and turn on

Like step by step

[obsidian wigeon]

mobos has manuals

you can usually follow em

[peak ginkgo]

YouTube is a wonderful teacher

[serene pulsar]

True true

[stoic island]

https://youtu.be/v7MYOpFONCU

[obsidian wigeon]

it makes things easier than it seems tho lmao

if you get your hands on it first time, it's gonna be hard

[serene pulsar]

Foxy every time I’m chatting you’re always here

[obsidian wigeon]

but if you're careful

it's fine

[serene pulsar]

Appreciate you and why you always on here tho😂

[stoic island]

ltt is not the most detailed, but they made a first person view build guide video so it works

[obsidian wigeon]

well, i also wanna help

[serene pulsar]

Oh thanks Mr11111

I’ll check it out

Anyone know of waterproof case

[obsidian wigeon]

installation of parts is easier than taking em back out, generally from my experience

[serene pulsar]

I need waterproof parts

[stoic island]

uh

[obsidian wigeon]

well just don't put water near the pc

you don't need it

[stoic island]

there can be but

[serene pulsar]

In case ceiling keeps leaking water

[stoic island]

you could always just drape something over the pc if it's raining or smth

[obsidian wigeon]

i never let water near my pc myself

top is open too

[peak ginkgo]

Where do you live? Lol

[serene pulsar]

Does Coca Cola hurt the PC

[obsidian wigeon]

yes

corrosion

[still roost]

JumpinDanny#8313 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[peak ginkgo]

Just put your PC somewhere where it won't get drenched

[obsidian wigeon]

^

like under desk

[stoic island]

Think about it by each part, spilling coca cola on glass doesn't damage anything

spilling coca cola on the case doesn't hurt anything

getting it in the graphics card can hurt things

[peak ginkgo]

This

[flint sapphire]

Pepsi won’t hurt it though since they don’t add corrosion to their drinks

[serene pulsar]

I want to build my computer in the ocean for my Atlantis peoples to use how do I do it

[obsidian wigeon]

uhm, what?

[peak ginkgo]

And, don't have liquids near the actual tower and you'll be okay

[obsidian wigeon]

pepsi is also carbonated

it still corrodes

[peak ginkgo]

https://tenor.com/view/bunnies-what-confused-meh-gif-13712192

[serene pulsar]

Pepsi is gross

Diet Coke is better

[flint sapphire]

Unlike Coca Cola Pepsi has Pepsi man

[peak ginkgo]

Watered down Coca Cola

[stoic island]

pepsi has a weird taste

[obsidian wigeon]

ye

[serene pulsar]

^

[flint sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/pepsi-man-dance-gif-8744210

[stoic island]

It's different, it's not like it's coke-lite

[serene pulsar]

What’s wrong

[peak ginkgo]

Coke mixed with water

[serene pulsar]

My people be in a primitive environment

Water hurts pc

Get pc that hurts water

[peak ginkgo]

If their Atlanteans, they aren't

[stoic island]

imo pepsi tastes more medicine like, not just less favorful

[serene pulsar]

No

[obsidian wigeon]

my room is perfect for rain to come in

[serene pulsar]

I said my people

[obsidian wigeon]

yet my pc is fine

ofc i close the windows when it happens

[serene pulsar]

One day I might find enough booty

And buy ryzen 9 5950

And get waterproof case

[obsidian wigeon]

waterproof case is rip airflow

[worn wave]

The only waterproof case I know of is $500

[obsidian wigeon]

it has to be water tight

[flint sapphire]

Like we do recognize the troll right

[stoic island]

there's water-resistant and then there's water-proof

[stoic island]

fun either way

[obsidian wigeon]

but just put it on places you can't spill water

[peak ginkgo]

Oof. I'd get one if I worked around water all the time but other than that, not worth it

[flint sapphire]

Just making sure

[obsidian wigeon]

i don't put drinks near the rig

[peak ginkgo]

We do 😉

[obsidian wigeon]

well unless im using my laptop

but then again i don't put the drinks next to the laptop

too much risk

[serene pulsar]

I’m not troll

I’m legit

[peak ginkgo]

Same, they're always on opposing ends of the table

[serene pulsar]

Crazy but legit

My roof leaks

[desert gulch]

Lol

[serene pulsar]

I need computer to handle leak

[desert gulch]

Use flex seal

[obsidian wigeon]

why not seal it

[desert gulch]

It can fix roof leaks

[serene pulsar]

It keeps room cool

[obsidian wigeon]

bruh

[desert gulch]

We use flex seal on our barn, it leaks hella bad

[serene pulsar]

100 degree room

[obsidian wigeon]

well just seal the leak above the spot the pc will be on

[stoic island]

if you have tarp, anything like that, slap it on top of the PC, and that'll be fine against just dripping water

unless it's going to flood

[peak ginkgo]

Ew... 100 degrees isn't good for a PC

[desert gulch]

Lol

Floating PC case

[serene pulsar]

If it’s flood then me and my computer go swimming

To the Atlantis people

[peak ginkgo]

Just put the PC in the freezer

[serene pulsar]

Why

[obsidian wigeon]

hey my country is normally 100 degrees in hot days

[desert gulch]

Custom boat case for pc

[serene pulsar]

Bro

[obsidian wigeon]

it works fine

[serene pulsar]

😂😂😂

[desert gulch]

What one?

[stoic island]

I can't hear you over my fans at 100% trying to cool my chip at 105c running smallfft

[serene pulsar]

IM DYING

[obsidian wigeon]

thailand

[desert gulch]

Nice

What street exactly?

[serene pulsar]

Holy bruh I’m dying still

[peak ginkgo]

I meant if there's no AC

[desert gulch]

What house?

[serene pulsar]

😂😂😂

[peak ginkgo]

Everyone lives in a hut

[obsidian wigeon]

i don't use ac either during the days

only at hot nights

[serene pulsar]

No AC allowed

Here

[obsidian wigeon]

just leave windows open

[stoic island]

fan in window will work wonders

[serene pulsar]

No need for windows

Roof is open

[peak ginkgo]

That's why you stick the PC in the freezer, it'll stay cool

[obsidian wigeon]

uh i live in like suburban areas

[desert gulch]

My 5700xt runs too hot if I do that

Need ac

[little osprey]

@fossil cedar know you are sleeping but if you see this my Y fan splitter arrived (pack of two, might be able to daisy chain if enough power)

[serene pulsar]

The sun sometimes kills my laptop battery unit

It keeps telling to replace

[desert gulch]

https://c.tenor.com/V2MJz1JD36UAAAAM/sad-cry.gif

[peak ginkgo]

Yay!

[serene pulsar]

What graphic card and CPu do I need to build a AI

[little osprey]

Ai?

What

[peak ginkgo]

Well, that's it for me tonight. Gotta put the kiddos to bed. Have a good night all

[serene pulsar]

Night man

Thanks for help

[little osprey]

uh oh…

I don’t think i got the right thing

can 4 pin fit on 3 pin header?

[peak ginkgo]

Yes

[stoic island]

fan?

if you're talking RGB, no

fan, yes

[desert gulch]

Ye

[little osprey]

fan

phew

[serene pulsar]

“Phanteks Eclipse P500A D-RGB ATX Mid Tower Case has a front panel USB 3.2 Gen 2 Type C port, but the Asus ROG STRIX B550-F GAMING (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard does not have sufficient USB 3.2 Gen 2 or Gen 1 headers. The case USB 3.2 Gen 2 Type C port will not be usable.”

[stoic island]

4th pin is just pwm

[serene pulsar]

not again with this terminology 🤧

[stoic island]

dc control is fine without pwm

[little osprey]

Yeah idk if it fits tho

[desert gulch]

What type of hp special has 3 pin fan headers?

[little osprey]

pavilion gaming

it’s from newegg btw

not walmart

$700 for 9400f/1650

[desert gulch]

Bruh

[stoic island]

it just means motherboard board doesn't have any headers for the specific newer usb port on the front of the case

[serene pulsar]

my mobo has no heads?

what does that mean

[little osprey]

Lmao what??

[stoic island]

random image

basically

universal serial bus is not universal at all

[peak ginkgo]

"Perfect signal conversion" Lol

[serene pulsar]

That makes no sense

I pay you to tutor me

Even though you’re free

[desert gulch]

Yeah mr1 is a little too smart

Basically, it no workey

That's the basic explanation

[stoic island]

yea I just googled for a 3.2 gen 2 header bc lazy, got image off some amazon listing

[serene pulsar]

What is no workey

Which one no workey

One of the USBs?

[desert gulch]

Mr1 is the pinouts even the same? Like will they work just speed limited or not even connect?

I'm p sure I looked it up and they won't even plug into each other

[stoic island]

see these on the p500a?

[stoic island]

nah

3.1/3.2 gen 1 and 3.1/3.2 gen 2 is completely different iirc

[serene pulsar]

What’s the 3rd one for

[desert gulch]

Type c

[serene pulsar]

The 3.1 whatever

[desert gulch]

Some phone chargers and new stuff uses it

[stoic island]

the type-c port is the one that would be no-workey

[desert gulch]

Yeah

[serene pulsar]

I don’t need a charger

Wtf

It’s a computer

[stoic island]

usb-c is used for a lot of things

[desert gulch]

The 2 USB ports would work fine

[stoic island]

charger might be the one you're familiar with

but there's other uses other people have

[obsidian wigeon]

but not many peripherals tbh

almost all of em still uses usb-a

[serene pulsar]

Bro that is the most silent flame I’ve seen

[obsidian wigeon]

the normal square

[desert gulch]

And I think the rear io of the motherboard may have a type c, depending on the one

[serene pulsar]

Props to you Mr1111

[stoic island]

:p

[serene pulsar]

But also why you do me dirty like that

Explain

What else

It can be used for

[stoic island]

I know a good amount of keebs can use usb-c

[desert gulch]

Yeah

[obsidian wigeon]

ye

[serene pulsar]

KEEB?

[stoic island]

keyboard

[serene pulsar]

again explain

[stoic island]

shorthand

[serene pulsar]

oh

[obsidian wigeon]

keychron keebs uses usb c mainly

[serene pulsar]

Well I actually just have a usb splitter

[desert gulch]

Mr1 what happens if you plug a USB type c from a wall outlet into your PC USB type c?

[serene pulsar]

for all my plugs

Only need 1 working USB

For mouse and keyboard I have splitter

[obsidian wigeon]

well be careful with the usb strips

[stoic island]

usb type a and usb type c are different

[obsidian wigeon]

you can melt the port with too many devices connected

[serene pulsar]

So this warning message is just for the charger thing

Melt the port?

[desert gulch]

That little type c

Yeah

[obsidian wigeon]

too high amperage

[serene pulsar]

It’s meant to hold though

[desert gulch]

On the front of the case

[obsidian wigeon]

usb has small amperage limit

[serene pulsar]

Here I send you picture of it

[stoic island]

just keep in mind current ratings

[obsidian wigeon]

^

[stoic island]

nothing is invincible

[little osprey]

YES!

[obsidian wigeon]

calculate your peripherals

[little osprey]

now i have one intake and one exhaust fan

[desert gulch]

P500a?

[little osprey]

oh my god i’m so happy

[obsidian wigeon]

and you'll know how many one port could handle

[stoic island]

I mean, you don't usually really need to care about it

but use common sense

one port can't supply 50 keyboards

[obsidian wigeon]

yeah but it could be a problem

[little osprey]

is this worth getting intake for

[stoic island]

(check it if you're doing something crazy, if you're just plugging in a keyboard and a mouse into a splitter, should be ok)

[obsidian wigeon]

just drill the case

[serene pulsar]

Has keyboard mouse and mouse pad plugs

[desert gulch]

For cheap 1 dollar enermax fan maybe

[serene pulsar]

The laptop I use now

[obsidian wigeon]

that's fine

3 is ok

usually