building-and-recc-chat

[frank stirrup]

or a thunderbolt

[little osprey]

Rip laptop doesnt have that

I guess ill find a usb a version

[frank stirrup]

u cant do output from usb a

there have to be connections for display to the port

[jolly kindle]

I have a question regarding my build, I was curious as to why my mobo responses a flash of red for my cpu?

[desert gulch]

just debug lights as pc boots im guessing

looks p normal, mine does same thing

[jolly kindle]

Is there anything that could help jt at all

[little osprey]

Rip

[desert gulch]

Why would you need to help it?

I think it's supposed to do that

[charred knot]

hey guys this is my build
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mCPP4d
the Liquid Freezer comes with 3 fans, the P500A case comes with 3 fans up front and I bought a Silent Wings 3 fan for the back(this was recommended)
my question is will i be able to connect all my fans to my mobo or do i need a fan controller?

[vague oracle]

Just go for a P12 not a silent wings 3

Aesthetics then Arctic P12 RGB

[charred knot]

alright but i should be good with the fan headers i have?

[vague oracle]

You should be

[charred knot]

nice thanks!
just waiting for everything to arrive to begin building my first pc
so just expect me here often in the coming week lol

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yRhVNP thinking of doing an itx build

thoughts?

[vague oracle]

Imo it’s perfect

Not sure about the cpu cooler tho

[earnest olive]

looks good, just be aware that system may not boot at first with the gen 3 riser; get around this by first booting with 3060ti plugged directly into the mobo (you can do this outside of the case) then manually set the pcie slot to gen 3

@little osprey

gen 3 risers tend to not play nice with gen 4 slots

[little osprey]

alrigt

[fossil cedar]

I would go enermax revolution sf 650w instead btw

[chrome bear]

I do have to ask

How in the world do you need five monitors

[little osprey]

You dont

[chrome bear]

Yeah

That’s excessive

[little osprey]

are you talking about the guy in #build-pics ?

[frank stirrup]

cuz

[formal girder]

So this is kinda of a mixed question cause it falls under gpu, mobo, and psu so i felt it would be necessary to ask here but would a B365m be able to support a 1000w psu with a 3090 pulling it through or would the board fail?

[elder zodiac]

What’s y’all’s take on AMD vs Intel come this fall, I wanna make a new build and AMD’s fall cpus are looking pretty freaking sweet compared to intels 12th Gen

[formal girder]

Im kinda liking intel due to them adding more cores to their cpus and allowing better performance than to the 11th gen but downside is that the cost of them could double the 11th gen prices while on the AMD side i have no knowledge on their upcoming products

But i have great expectations from both companies and an open mind

[earnest olive]

motherboard is irrelevant

gpu will only pull 75 watts through the motherboard slot

everything else is supplied by the pcie power cables

as long as the board is new enough to have a pcie slot, you can put a 3090 in it

[fossil cedar]

There's not too many leaks for the new gens yet tbh

[earnest olive]

what makes you say that? intel 12th gen is looking very nice too

the small cores are surprisingly capable

boost up to 3.9ghz on 8 cores with IPC similar to skylake

[formal girder]

Ok i was just wondering so i dont go frying a reliable board and yeah it has pcie gen 3 slot but im using it till i get my new cpu to swap out the board

[fossil cedar]

Just remember it's still gonna be 8 big cores, they're just adding 4 little cores, which don't have ht either

[formal girder]

Well smaller cores can be a little better than no extra cores imo

[earnest olive]

even though i have no plans to buy alder lake

i am still excited to see how the technology pans out

[fossil cedar]

Don't swap out a cpu just for pcie 4 please

[earnest olive]

the small cores on an i9-11900K almost equate to an i7-9700 while taking much less power

that's pretty exciting

[fossil cedar]

But considering the i9s went 8c 10c 8c 8c4c like bruh

[earnest olive]

remember, the PL2 of the 12900K is 228W, which is less than 10900K and 11900K

[earnest olive]

i9 has 8 small cores, not 4

[fossil cedar]

Oh thought it was 4

The i7 is 4 then?

[earnest olive]

iirc i7 is 8+4 and i5 is 6+4

[fossil cedar]

Ahh that's what i was thinking of then nvm

[formal girder]

Im not swapping because of that but im swapping so my 3090 wont bottleneck the shrimp out of my cpu and so i get decent performance

[fossil cedar]

Ahh fair enough

[formal girder]

I wont really have a use for gen 4 pcie

[fossil cedar]

Hardly anyone does tbh

[formal girder]

Im just a gamer that wants to play in the best graphics and enjoy it with out having to risk oc

[fossil cedar]

Oc isn't a risk really, not if you get someone experienced to help you as well but ocing (cpus anyway (excluding precision boost overdrive)) have a small improvement

Ocing gpu is vary safe to do

[formal girder]

I just tend to stay away from doing anything like that anyway

[fossil cedar]

Your loss i suppose

[formal girder]

And well it will be my new gaming rig as i will be selling my old pc to a friend

Iirc doesnt some oc lead to downgrade in performance or is that just from improper oc

[little osprey]

improper oc

Usually setting voltage too high

[formal girder]

I also kinda dont trust oc with a 3090 and a 1000w psu when i will have a new cpu soon as well and i might just stick with the I5-11600K

Or a kf version

[fossil cedar]

Only if you touch voltage, gpu can be oc'd without touching voltage

[formal girder]

Oh

[fossil cedar]

No point getting kf, i haven't seen it be cheaper than k ever and the igpu is handy lol

[formal girder]

Ok just wondering cause i didnt know if having an igpu can kinda mess with the cpu itself or if it bogged it down a bit at all

[earnest olive]

i mean

you can disable the igpu

[fossil cedar]

Technically it won't benchmark as well, but within less than like .5%

Negligible difference

[formal girder]

So would the igpu be capable of running wallpaper engine taking the load off the gpu and not affect the cpu too much? Cause rn wallpaper engine uses like 30% Gpu and i have to pause it when im gaming cause i have dual monitors and i have my other screen usually blank

[fossil cedar]

Ehh you should be able to set the igpu to take the load off wallpaper engine in Windows settings, idk if it will run smoothly but worth a shot

[formal girder]

I mainly use audio viz for aesthetics cause im easily amazed by rgb and effects

Thats my use of wallpaper eng

[thorn wyvern]

@earnest olive how did you get an i7 and a 3070 in the same pc for 1200

Also how many PCs do you have

[earnest olive]

6 rn

dealhunting

[thorn wyvern]

Damn

Also did you have to use eBay or any shady sites

@earnest olive

[earnest olive]

yikes

read rule 9

[desert gulch]

Lol

[thorn wyvern]

Oh

[desert gulch]

Ebegging

He's not doing a giveaway either lol

[thorn wyvern]

I say it as a joke

[desert gulch]

Sure you do

[solid ibex]

Does anyone know what would cause a PC

To like stutter without high usage on anything

and freeze

[frank stirrup]

@earnest olive how u gonna sell the guy a cpu thats broken into 2 parts bro

#build-pics

[earnest olive]

dw

I glued it back together with shiny glue

[frank stirrup]

Show glue

[frank stirrup]

Liquid metal glue?!

[earnest olive]

no its just shiny glue

[frank stirrup]

Thats some very shiny glue

[earnest olive]

yes very

[restive violet]

@frank stirrup i tried doing the disk management thing. But when i right click on my pen drive the Delete Volume option is greyed out.

@frank stirrup this is what i did is this okay?

Its like this now

[frank stirrup]

Can you right click

And show properties?

@restive violet

[restive violet]

Okay hold on

I guess its okay now?

[frank stirrup]

yep

rename the bios file to what gigabyte tells you to on their website

[restive violet]

Website says GIGABYTE.bin

[frank stirrup]

also dont use a bios that ends with an alphabet

those are beta bioses. You want a bios that ends with a number

[restive violet]

I will try qflashing it, will update the status here after a few hours

[frank stirrup]

so just name it GIGABYTE

.bin is the extension

[restive violet]

Okay got it. The support said just download F34 version it should be fine

[frank stirrup]

yep that ends with a number so non beta

[static canyon]

hi all, could anyone direct me to where i can get some build advice ?
looking to build a pc in a smaller case with no rgb

[frank stirrup]

here

whats ur budget

and which country do you live in

for local pricing

or do u have all the parts already

[jovial tusk]

Do you guys find that a larger traditional hard drive is still handy in conjunction with a say... 1TB SSD or is the SSD generally adequate for most users?

[stoic island]

Depends on you, most people won't use more than 1tb SSD, and even if you run out of space, buying another drive and slapping it in is easy

[jovial tusk]

Good point the MOBO even has a second M.2.

[earnest olive]

my friend gifted me an hdd..

[shrewd fjord]

@stoic island you would be proud. I cleaned my laptop inside to out. Was my first time even messing with computer components. (May not sound like much but I'm proud)

I used 99% rubbing alcohol and some q-tips, also some alcohol wipes, air compressor, and lots of tiny screwdrivers

[stoic island]

I am proud

pretty nice

[shrewd fjord]

Thank you.

I even ran a bloatware script to remove unwanted files I ended up getting rid of 246GB of unwanted files.

[stoic island]

good

[shrewd fjord]

And even though my laptop is only dual core 4GB RAM it runs more smooth

I can actually run minecraft now

[obsidian wigeon]

i would be happ for dat

[restive violet]

@frank stirrup how do I know if the qflash update is already done? It was blinking for good 3 minutes then it stopped. My board got its light back on. Looks positive to me. Should I restart the system or just wait longer like 10mins more?

Also, the after the qflashing the board it powered on on itself however when I checked my monitor it didn’t display anything. Is this normal? Should i try to reboot it?

Debug code is AA = reserved

https://streamable.com/zuykz3

[earnest olive]

why would you expect your monitor to display anything if you haven't plugged in any display cable

[restive violet]

I mean that was earlier took too long to upload.

Display cable is plugged already

Should I restart my system now? I didnt turn it off ever since the qflash stopped blinking. Its about 20mins now

[frank stirrup]

should be good

restart system

plug in monitor and everything

[restive violet]

Okay got it. Fingers crossed

Weird. Monitor doesnt display anything

[frank stirrup]

plug into gpu

not mobo

[restive violet]

Yes its plugged into the gpu

No display

[earnest olive]

is your usb drive formatted as fat32

[frank stirrup]

fat 32 mbr

[restive violet]

Yes fat 32 and mbr

[frank stirrup]

try another port

also any error code on mobo?

[restive violet]

Debug code is AA

[earnest olive]

did you rename the bios to GIGABYTE.bin

[restive violet]

Yes.

[earnest olive]

is the file unzipped

[restive violet]

Okay ill try

[frank stirrup]

flash was successful

its displaying error codes

[earnest olive]

how do you know it was successful if there's error codes

error codes show too when you have a cpu that's unsupported due to old bios

[frank stirrup]

Because the bios was corrupted to all hell before

no fan spin nothing

now it does stuff

it wasnt an update to the bios

[restive violet]

According to the manual Debug code is AA which means reserved. I googled it and its normal according to other people who owns the same model

[frank stirrup]

it was a restore

x570 xtreme mobo yeah?

[restive violet]

Yes revision 1.2

Oh wait

[earnest olive]

AA - System has transitioned into ACPI mode. Interrupt controller is in APIC mode

i don't know what that means

[restive violet]

This is weird. I tried rebooting it again. Monitor displayed aorus bios logo and it shut down immediately.

[earnest olive]

pull out 3 sticks of ram clear cmos try again

[frank stirrup]

so its doing something

pull out 3 sticks of ram like sippy said

[restive violet]

Okay will try that

Still the same

Its powering down on its own

[earnest olive]

what was the last post code

before shut off

[restive violet]

Theres too many. Just different codes and kept on changing

[earnest olive]

just the last one

[restive violet]

https://streamable.com/rdladw

[vague oracle]

Oh no

[vague oracle]

Error codes can still show up if the bios is messed up

[frank stirrup]

fans were nt spinning now they are

the flash 100% went through

[vague oracle]

I had this exact same thing happen to me

Everything worked except it’s stuck in a boot loop

That’s something about the bios just not wanting to work

[restive violet]

Well monitor says (at bios display) automatic repair something then shuts down immediately.

[vague oracle]

Does that keep repeating?

Also automatic repair usually happens when the pc fails to boot a few times in a row

[restive violet]

It isnt looping but just total power off

And when i power it on, it shuts itself down automatically.

[vague oracle]

Just to make sure you installed the motherboard on standoffs?

And did you reset the CMOS?

[restive violet]

Yes my case has a built in standoffs

Yes i did reset the cmos with only one stick attached

Ughh this is hella weird. I attached all the ramsticks and it worked again

[vague oracle]

Well problem solved lol

[restive violet]

Looks like im not going to shut this pc down for a year

Okay the qflash eariler was a success @frank stirrup thank you.

[stoic island]

Nice

[restive violet]

Im still scared tho. What if i shut it off down and it wont work again. This pc of mine is playing with me

[stoic island]

Well, it'll be more debugging

And by the way, when you were doing 1 stick of ram, you're putting it in the slot the manual says is preferred, correct? (Usually slot 2)

[frank stirrup]

No problem!

[restive violet]

Welp sad there was a power interruption. I have a UPS so was able to shut it down properly. Now I am trying to turn it back on since the power resumed already it wont power on; going back to the issue where it only boots until bios then shuts down immediately.

[earnest olive]

maybe it's a defective mobo

something wrong with bios chip?

[vague oracle]

That’s what I was saying before lol

[earnest olive]

I hope everything's good with your oc formula

mobos are annoyingly fragile

[vague oracle]

Yeah I hope so too

Especially since I paid such a low price for it

Every other one I saw was like $350-$400

[earnest olive]

so many failure points

the worst feeling is when you boot a build successfully as a test bench with no problems

happily build it into a case

and then realize the front usb is dead

peak of pain as a builder

have to tear apart everything to replace a mobo

[vague oracle]

I remember ripping out my Crosshair to RMA it because of a faulty bios chip

That’s was painful

[earnest olive]

stuff like front audio and front usb being dead is extra annoying cause is it the mobo or the case

when front usb didn't work in my new case

I hastily put in a different system to test

and it looked hilarious because I didn't want to unmount the 360 rad I had in there

incredibly scuffed lmao

but this helped me determine that the problem was indeed with the original mobo and not the case

had a case where the case's front audio cable was internally severed

asked the customer if he would rather have a new case or $20 off

he said new case cause he wanted to use front audio

so I had to take out my other test mobo and then redo the whole build in the new case

[vague oracle]

Lmao that looks hilarious

[earnest olive]

truly a work of art

[jagged ember]

ship it just like that

[haughty raven]

hello

people

yes

hii

okay

is there anyone who can help with choosing parts

my budget is 2300

[little osprey]

@haughty raven just the pc?

or peripherals included

[haughty raven]

yeah

just the pc

the set up i can deal with later

[little osprey]

streaming?

[haughty raven]

i have the set up already planned

[little osprey]

just gaming?

[haughty raven]

gaming

[little osprey]

nothing else?

[haughty raven]

stocks?

LMFAOO

[fossil cedar]

Well you can't exactly get a mouse and keyboard and monitor later unless you already have one lol

[haughty raven]

i have one

[little osprey]

you want a specific color ?

[haughty raven]

already lmao

[little osprey]

black/white

[haughty raven]

white case

[little osprey]

you wanna overclock or na

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bKk47X

@haughty raven

[fossil cedar]

Their budget was 2300 btw

[little osprey]

and

i was provided like no context

i'll change if they tell me resolution

[fossil cedar]

Fair

[maiden pawn]

Me want computer. - context

😂

[rich helm]

When someone says they have a monitor already it usually is 1080p 60hz or 1080p 144hz

[midnight vigil]

https://www.newegg.com/evga-supernova-650-gt-220-gt-0650-y1-650w/p/N82E16817438186?Item=N82E16817438186 good psu for a 3060 and i5-11400f?

[fossil cedar]

@haughty raven https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3zGWp2 imo this is what you should get

[fossil cedar]

Meh price, msi agf is that price iirc

[midnight vigil]

well its on sale

[fossil cedar]

Yeah but the msi agf is same price and an a tier, while that's b tier iirc

[midnight vigil]

https://www.newegg.com/msi-mpg-a650gf-650w/p/N82E16817701011 so this good?

[fossil cedar]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qvYVNP wait this @haughty raven

[fossil cedar]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/bq6qqs/msi-650-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-mpg-a650gf or https://pcpartpicker.com/product/v3VG3C/msi-mpg-a-gf-750-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-mpg-a750gf

Cheaper on Amazon atm

[midnight vigil]

Cool

[earnest olive]

i actually just finished the actual build for that board yesterday

it's in build pics lol

[jagged ember]

Oo pog

[earnest olive]

i think it looks less scuffed

hopefully

$1242 for a 3070 build is nice

[little osprey]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/500102940078505984/862457314711961646/wtf.gif

[fossil cedar]

What lol

[earnest olive]

$120 3080

pogger

[fossil cedar]

Uwu

[little osprey]

why 8 core

[fossil cedar]

Why not

Stocks will mean a crap tun of stuff open anyway

[little osprey]

eh

[earnest olive]

trading cares mostly about single core performance and having a lot of display outputs

might be best to go with something like 11600K so you can use igpu to add monitors

could run 6 monitors off of igpu + 3080

but idk if they're that into trading to run a 6 monitor setup considering they didn't initially list it as a use case

most people doing that will list it as a primary use

[rich helm]

Most people when they say stocks usually are just using like 1 or 2 websites lol

[earnest olive]

i've had a few customers that were day traders that knew exactly what they needed

[thorn wyvern]

https://www.newegg.com/cooler-master-masterliquid-ml240l-rgb-liquid-cooling-system/p/2YM-0004-00015?Item=2YM-0004-00015&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-2YM-0004-00015-_-07212021 is this a all in one?

[fossil cedar]

Ohh really? How so?

[earnest olive]

fast single core and at LEAST 4 monitor outputs

[fossil cedar]

It is, but it's not a very good one

[earnest olive]

closed loop and all-in-one mean the same thing

[obsidian wigeon]

it's an aio

[thorn wyvern]

Oh kk

[obsidian wigeon]

but eh one

[fossil cedar]

@thorn wyvern get an arctic liquid ii or ek aio or lian li Galahad instead

[earnest olive]

having a couple graphs on screen is nothing that a 6 core cpu can't handle

just has to be fast single core

[fossil cedar]

Ahh fair enough, i thought they would have a crap tun of tabs open etc but guess not

[earnest olive]

like maybe you could go 8+ core for the really extreme setups

like the 12 monitor setups

[fossil cedar]

Yeah fair

[zealous cedar]

My first time building by myself and I get the "CPU Fan Error", could this be from a cable not being connected?

[desert gulch]

uhh

make sure your cpu cooler or something is plugged into CPU_FAN header

[vague oracle]

Oooh I know this

Change your cpu fan header to one of the ones at the top 3, should be called CPU_FAN or PUMP if it’s an AIO

Someone with almost the same mobo as me yay

[zealous cedar]

Alright trying noe

Now

If it works, does it take you straight to bios?

@vague oracle

[vague oracle]

Just go to the exit menu, click something about optimized defaults, the save and exit

[still roost]

aza#0001 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[zealous cedar]

I am so fking happy rn

@vague oracle @desert gulch thank youu both

[desert gulch]

yea np lol, alec did most of the helping

[vague oracle]

No problem haha

If there’s one thing I know it’s the Crosshair VIII Hero/Dark Hero

[zealous cedar]

Hahahah

[vague oracle]

I’ve been using it since the 3700x came out

[zealous cedar]

I technically got the Dark hero for $15

[vague oracle]

Bundle?

[zealous cedar]

Crypto investment

[vague oracle]

Nice

[zealous cedar]

Crypto is stupid tho

This is the only time I'm happy about it

[lyric thistle]

crimpo

[vague oracle]

I got my regular hero in a bundle with a 3700x for $400

[lyric thistle]

crimpocurense

[zealous cedar]

Yes

Crimpocorense

[lyric thistle]

crimop moniae go brrrrr

[zealous cedar]

[vague oracle]

That’s the first time I’ve seen that one

[lyric thistle]

quick do it again

then he'll see it for a second time

[vague oracle]

Lmao

[fossil cedar]

If you don't have a high ambient temp, i would check your cooler mounting btw, make sure no plastic on bottom of cpu cooler or enough thermal paste, and make sure mount was even, screw in cross pattern

58c is quite warm for the bios in my experience

[vague oracle]

Yeah 58 is a bit high

[desert gulch]

i sit at 24 in my bios now lol

[fossil cedar]

Unless they live in an oven

[fossil cedar]

Yeah i sit in bios at about 40c or so and it's like 27c here

[lyric thistle]

idk 90c ambient is pretty cool

[marsh kiln]

I have a problem kinda I was just about to leave this discord server because I am losing a lot of hope for having a computer that can actually do something and just losing my love for computer anything and gaming

[lyric thistle]

oh wait this isn't the steam power enthusiast's guild

what cha got

[marsh kiln]

Still kinda thinking about leaving this server and unsubbing from ltt and a few others

[lyric thistle]

well there's nothing I can do about that you can just

leave

if you don't want to be here

you would probably get some solid help by staying tho just saying

[marsh kiln]

Yea but I won't need the help because I highly doubt I'll ever get a computer that can run triple A games

[lyric thistle]

why not

[marsh kiln]

Because once I am out of high school I won't have time and right now some of my family is saying things like well now he has that watch his grades plummet family members said that when I got a new phone

[vague oracle]

prove to them your grades won’t plummet. Also get a job and pay for the pc yourself

[lyric thistle]

grades aren't life

[vague oracle]

^

[lyric thistle]

I got a diploma, worst grades you'd ever see :^)

that diploma is all that matters

if it takes extra time to get it then it takes extra time to get it

that said you'll probably have fine grades

[vague oracle]

They only matter when you’re trying to get into highschool, once you’re in college as long as your passing you’re fine

[lyric thistle]

people should have leisure time

[vague oracle]

100%

[lyric thistle]

if you want to spend some leisure time playing video games that's your god given right 😎

[vague oracle]

Sophomore year me had absolutely no leisure time and look where it got me, it made me wanting to kill myself over stress. Everyone needs leisure time

[lyric thistle]

family members seem to like to rag on their younger members still can't figure out why

it's not helpful in the slightest

[vague oracle]

In my case it was harmful

[marsh kiln]

Thing is every time I talk about getting a new job sense the people at my last one was a bunch of dumba**** and fired me for no good reason and so when I bring up getting a new job they just say why do you think you need a job or I really don't think you need to be working while in school

[desert gulch]

then do things to get good references to help

[vague oracle]

^

[desert gulch]

do yardwork for neighbors and stuff

then that will hella help on references

[vague oracle]

Setup fliers and hang them on neighbors doors with your name, phone number and service you offer

[desert gulch]

yeah

[zealous cedar]

That's weird, it shouldn't be 50+

I just took a pic and it's 37 rn

[vague oracle]

What cooler is it?

[desert gulch]

weird

[vague oracle]

Huh weird

[zealous cedar]

Z73

[desert gulch]

oof

[vague oracle]

Oof

[marsh kiln]

I am in deep country area

[zealous cedar]

Hold your oofs

What is oof about the Z73

[vague oracle]

Overpriced, bad cooling

[desert gulch]

funny thing is i tried adjusting fans on my pc and with a low idle on cpu fan, and all case fans turned off, i stayed cooler than that in games lol

gpu fans still on

[marsh kiln]

My build is going to have the nzxt z53

[desert gulch]

plz dont

[vague oracle]

Lmao don’t

[marsh kiln]

Yep

[lyric thistle]

door to door advertising isn't effective anymore

[vague oracle]

NZXT and Corsair coolers suck

[marsh kiln]

Or the 63 idk yet

[lyric thistle]

networking is done 😎 online

[desert gulch]

neither are good

[marsh kiln]

Ok I'll keep the wraith stock cpu cooler on it I don't care about knowing cpu and gpu Temps

[zealous cedar]

Thank you for your feedback, I will forward it to the NZXT ppl

[vague oracle]

GPUZ will do the exact same thing

The LCD screen is a gimmick

As well as overall subpar cooling ability

[marsh kiln]

I'll stick stock

[vague oracle]

FYI no need for sarcasm here it won’t get you very far

[zealous cedar]

Wh0

Me?

[vague oracle]

Lmao not you

[fossil cedar]

Mediocre and way too expensive

[zealous cedar]

Ok, cause I was joking hehe

[vague oracle]

Haha

[zealous cedar]

It's okay for me :-)

[marsh kiln]

No I really will stick with a stock cpu cooler

[zealous cedar]

Thanks for the info though, it will be very useful in the future

[lyric thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/sarcasm-just-another-service-i-offer-gif-10052274

[fossil cedar]

Please no, arctic liquid ii has the same asthetic or you can get rgb options with lian li galahad or ek aio

[vague oracle]

Ehh only really the Galahad has the same aesthetic being a circular pump

[fossil cedar]

For what cpu?

[fossil cedar]

That's good lol

[marsh kiln]

Ryzen 7 3700x

[fossil cedar]

Shush, pretty colours on cpu tho

[fossil cedar]

Don't buy that in 2021

[lyric thistle]

11400

5600x

[marsh kiln]

Ok ryzen 9 5950x 900 dollars

[vague oracle]

No baby 😏 jk

[lyric thistle]

idk

[fossil cedar]

? It's 800$ lol

[vague oracle]

Exactly what I meant by the sarcasm

[fossil cedar]

👀

[zealous cedar]

In sweden the 5950x is abt $1050

[vague oracle]

Oh jeez

[zealous cedar]

If it was $800 I would get it instead of the 5900 but that would mean the 5900 would be even cheaper

The 5900x here is $700

[vague oracle]

Used to be like that here at one point but now it’s back to MSRP

[marsh kiln]

That one was yea

[marsh kiln]

850

And see that's the thing I made a parts list that would work for me that is not 3000 dollars

[vague oracle]

Let’s see the part list

[fossil cedar]

@marsh kiln why would you even bother comparing 3700x to 5950x anyway btw, compare it to 5800x or 5900x

[marsh kiln]

That means I can get a 3080 for 700

[fossil cedar]

It does for cpus and read the #rules mods love when you filter evade 😜

[marsh kiln]

Newegg ryzen 9 5950x is almost 850 dollars

[fossil cedar]

Ok ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[restive violet]

I was thinking if the gpu is causing this motherboard not to post.

[formal girder]

So i have finally completed the installment of the 1000w psu from a non mod to a full mod

[fossil cedar]

noice

[earnest olive]

you better hope it's not the gpu

[formal girder]

Turns out i had wayyy to many spare cables but i am gonna need two kore pci-e cables when 3090 is here

[stoic island]

gonna be real sad

make sure not to use daisy chain cables for 3090

[lyric thistle]

3090 slot power only

[earnest olive]

passive slot only 3090 lol

might be able to clock that bad boy to 600mhz

[restive violet]

Well qflash is successful yesterday as confirmed by sysviewer when I checked it after the lucky boot. Are the RMAs for GPUs really abysmal?

[fossil cedar]

Usually no, but in the middle of a shortage so yes

[desert gulch]

Yeah I'd you don't have enough pcie power cables for it ig they should use molex to pcie adapters

[formal girder]

is that using like one cable with a split double 8pin pci-e cable?

[desert gulch]

Correct

[formal girder]

oh well thankfully i have spares that came with so i dont do that thanks for letting me know that

[earnest olive]

i havent even gotten an update on my 3080 rma in a week

[desert gulch]

did you check shipping to confirm it arrived?

[earnest olive]

yeah gigabyte legit marked it as repaired a week ago

but no shipping information

[desert gulch]

hmm weird

you should ask them to repad it before they send it back lol

[earnest olive]

i already bought new pads

[desert gulch]

nice

[reef lynx]

https://www.newegg.com/skytech-st-shadow-0277-ne/p/N82E16883289152 thoughts on this?

It seems like a great deal, although I would like a second opinion

[zealous cedar]

Can you control the RGB of the O11 ROG with a software?

[fossil cedar]

Skytech are 💩 from what ive heard https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali507-challenger/p/N82E16883360107R or https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali416-master/p/N82E16883102994R?itemPosition=1-11&exactIndex=0 if you can afford a bit extra

[fossil cedar]

Probs the asus rgb software, think it's called armory crate?

[zealous cedar]

yessirr

doesnt seem to sync

i have this "addressable rgb strip"

LED*

doesnt do sheet

[fossil cedar]

Rip

[reef lynx]

yoo alright

will keep those in mind

[fossil cedar]

Np

[restive violet]

When did you send your GPU for RMA and what’s the issue?

[earnest olive]

it arrived at gigabyte on july 14

random crashing

[fading oyster]

guys should i get a new psu

[restive violet]

Btw how did you request for an RMA? Is it just the same support ticket? Do you have a link for it?

[echo vale]

will the x570 work with 5900x right out of the box or is tht always a gamble

[stoic island]

kinda a gamble

I'd say it's 80-20 chance of support or not supporting

[echo vale]

dam

i really dont want to spend the money on a loaner cpu

rip me

[rich helm]

Just get b550 smh

[echo vale]

wouldnt i just run into the same problem? lol

[stoic island]

bios flashback

[echo vale]

so you wouldnt need a seperate gpu for that just a flashdrive?

cpu*

[stoic island]

if the board has bios flashback, you don't need another cpu

[echo vale]

okay cool thanks for the heads up

almost made an oopsie

[fading oyster]

ayo so i have an i7-11700 with a 3060 and i was wondering if i should get a better psu i only have a 500w coolermaster 80+ bronze right now

[stoic island]

I mean, unless you want to do 11700 with no pl

[fading oyster]

wdym no pl

[stoic island]

power limit

default pl is what, 105w?

but it can pull like 200-300w if you let it

[fading oyster]

so oc it?

[severe vessel]

Hello, anyone knows where can I get my hands on some MSRP parts to build my own gaming pc?I have just wasted 3500$ on a defective dell alienware aurora r12 due to the crappy psu and motherboards with crappy software that they use and dont even know if Ill get my money back as all they do is try to force "repair" onto me which I do not want as Im certain they cant repair it lot of people have the same issue and its caused by their motherboard and rams they use which bottleneck the entire system and wont allow the cpu and gpu to run on its full potential.

[echo vale]

the more power stages the better right?

or does it depend?

[last fractal]

Is this a good pc https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali506/p/N82E16883360106

[stoic island]

@echo vale depends on a lot more

[stoic island]

There's one with basically same specs that's like 1500 on best buy iirc

[last fractal]

Link it plz

[stoic island]

To start off, one with better CPU for 1600$
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/asus-rog-gaming-desktop-intel-core-i7-11700f-16gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-rtx-3070-1tb-hdd-512gb-ssd/6455823.p?skuId=6455823

Gonna find the one I was thinking of

[fading oyster]

hey guys i have a friend with this pc

https://www.newegg.com/acer-n50-610-ur14-nitro-50/p/N82E16883101818?item=9SIA4P0FAN9800&source=region&nm_mc=knc-googlemkp-pc&cm_mmc=knc-googlemkp-pc-_-pla-adorama-_-gaming+desktop-_-9SIA4P0FAN9800&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIoJC5qrf18QIVpRx9Ch0FSAuJEAQYAiABEgJO7PD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

[last fractal]

Ya what about the fans

[fading oyster]

and he wants to upgrade the mobo

will he have to upgrade the psu too?

[stoic island]

What

[stoic island]

?????

@fading oyster ask them if there's a 24pin on the mobo

If yes, probably standard PSU, and can just upgrade mobo

[last fractal]

The fans are ass

[stoic island]

Wat

[last fractal]

And cpu cooler is bad

[stoic island]

You can easily change that with the money you save

[last fractal]

My mom thinks I’mma break it

[fading oyster]

bruh

you gotta convince her

[last fractal]

I know but

[fading oyster]

i got a prebuilt and swapped cases and fans and everything and my parents are insanely strict so i told them if i broke it i would pay for it

[last fractal]

I wanna spend money on a computer I saved up on but it has to be 5 stars lol

[fading oyster]

i can recommend the one i got

it's an omen one and then you can just swap cases

[last fractal]

Nvm then my mom would not allow

It

[fossil cedar]

If you want a 5 star pc you kinda want to do it yourself, or at least some parts

[fading oyster]

ya

or maybe an nzxt one i heard that their pc's are actually rlly good

[fossil cedar]

Swapping cases ez and you can't break

[fading oyster]

but ive never taken a look at one

[last fractal]

Nope can’t my mom won’t allow it

[fossil cedar]

Nzxt blehhhh

[stoic island]

Nzxt pc

No

[fading oyster]

ya that case swap i did on my prebuilt was the first time i've ever touched the inside of a pc and i did it easily

[fossil cedar]

Abs is one of the best prebuilt manufacturers tbh

Nzxt are low on the list lol

[stoic island]

At least like this at 1750$
https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali455/p/N82E16883360039

[last fractal]

Is the case good? Are the fans good

[stoic island]

It's a prebuilt

This one looks to have better airflow than the first one

And fans are fans

[fossil cedar]

It's the best you're gonna get for a prebuilt, airflow wise

[stoic island]

Fans are also the easiest thing to swap out

4 screws and a connector, no need to take anything else off other than the side panel

[last fractal]

It’s my wierd mom

I would buy it in a heart beat

[stoic island]

You don't even know how good the fans in the first one is >:p

[shrewd fjord]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wnhs2V

How is this?

[desert gulch]

Honestly of it were me I'd go 5600x and b550 since you'd save money and still perform just as good in gaming and stuff for the most part

[dense sparrow]

B550 VS X570? Which is better??

[frank stirrup]

go b550 5600x

[frank stirrup]

B550 for most people

better vrms and still all thee features you need

[dense sparrow]

Hmm which b550 mobo is good?

[frank stirrup]

msi A-pro is good, asus tuf is good and gigabyte elite or pro are good

[dense sparrow]

Can u do from least best to top?

[frank stirrup]

what cpu do you have or are you getting

[dense sparrow]

Prob ryzen 7 but ppl say get ryzen 5 5600x so either

[frank stirrup]

5600x>3700x easy

[dense sparrow]

Hmm

[desert gulch]

Only really get a x570 if you really need all those extra pcie gen 4 lanes

B550 has enough for a gpu and a m.2 to run in gen 4.0

Some ppl need more tho, so that's why x570 exists

[tight sorrel]

2 connectors. Fans dont push any air if their RGB is not on

[tight sorrel]

nope

[vague oracle]

I can’t tell if you’re joking or not

The 5600x kills the 3700x

[frank stirrup]

yep

[tight sorrel]

Depnds on the GPU and resolution you are playing at. For example I am using a 3070 and I play at 1440p. with that setup the difference between the 3700 and 5600 is negligable

[frank stirrup]

that doesnt mean the 3700x is better

[vague oracle]

^

[tight sorrel]

im not saying it better

[vague oracle]

5600x has the same multicore but about 30% better single core

[tight sorrel]

im saying that the answer is nto that clear cut

[frank stirrup]

Bro what does the > sign mean

better or greater than

I compared 2 cpus

[tight sorrel]

3700 beats 5600 in real world multi core applications

[stoic island]

> means left side is bigger than right side

[frank stirrup]

and the 5600x does beat or tie with the 3700x in everything

[tight sorrel]

nope

[frank stirrup]

by an insingnificantly small margin

[stoic island]

Also, pretty sure that's just you being GPU bound in games

[frank stirrup]

6 fast cores>8 slow ones

[stoic island]

Or the very few games that actually leverage all the cores

[tight sorrel]

exactly

[vague oracle]

Nope, they’re they are pretty much the same. I’ve tested them in person

[stoic island]

Depends on the task ofc

[frank stirrup]

again u being gpu bound doesnt make ur 3700x be better than a 5600x

[vague oracle]

Obviously

[tight sorrel]

please read what I said rawr. I never said it does. Im saying the answer is not clear cut

[frank stirrup]

And im saying it is

[vague oracle]

It is clear cut

[tight sorrel]

and you have not proven it

[frank stirrup]

If you spend some time with curve optimiser you can easy beat a 3700x in pretty much everything

[vague oracle]

The only advantage the 3700x has is 2 extra cores but they don’t even help improve multicore performance

[stoic island]

Data time

https://youtu.be/01EhbmJAW-k

[frank stirrup]

and wheres urs?

proof, that is

[stoic island]

https://www.anandtech.com/show/16214/amd-zen-3-ryzen-deep-dive-review-5950x-5900x-5800x-and-5700x-tested

[frank stirrup]

yep a lead in all games

a lead in photoshop

lead in video transcode

and it was close in other benchmarks where 3700x won by a small margin

@tight sorrel

[scenic turret]

5600x also dropping steadily in prices, well worth it

[frank stirrup]

Yep

[tight sorrel]

here we go. extrapolate the data. unless you playing at 1080p with a 3080 or higher, the difference is negligable

[frank stirrup]

what?!

What are you talking about

LMFAO

[tight sorrel]

example

thats with a 2080ti

[stoic island]

That's also borderlands being borderlands

[frank stirrup]

I didnt get the memo when ~10% more fps became negligible

but ok

[tight sorrel]

agian... 1080p with a 2080ti GPU

please focus rawr

[frank stirrup]

again

one benchmark

lol

If you cant see the entire picture thats ur bad

[stoic island]

Afaik borderlands 3 is extremely amd biased GPU wise

[tight sorrel]

latest steam hawrdware

[tight sorrel]

no, thats YOUR bad

[stoic island]

But also

I meant to link anandtech testing for their synthetic and other workloads

Anandtech gaming testing is iffy at best

[frank stirrup]

and this is supposed to explain what exactly

[stoic island]

Especially given the platform

Iirc, they're running jedec 3200 cl20

[frank stirrup]

JEEZE

[tight sorrel]

that literally for the majority of users the difference in gaming between a 3700 and 5600 will be neglible

[frank stirrup]

heres a 4k bench

what were you saying again btw?

[scenic turret]

Wth lol

[frank stirrup]

something about it only making a difference at 1080p with a 3080?

lmfao

another one

[stoic island]

"This is also typically run at JEDEC subtimings where possible. It is noted that some users are not keen on this policy, stating that sometimes the maximum supported frequency is quite low, or faster memory is available at a similar price, or that the JEDEC speeds can be prohibitive for performance. While these comments make sense, ultimately very few users apply memory profiles (either XMP or other) as they require interaction with the BIOS, and most users will fall back on JEDEC supported speeds"

[scenic turret]

Oml

[frank stirrup]

another one

[stoic island]

Anyways

[still roost]

lastsunbreaker#4387 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[stoic island]

Can we just end it at 5600x is either same or better than 3700x

[scenic turret]

Oop

Time to rant about AnandTech

[stoic island]

I think that'll be enough for the day

[scenic turret]

Like I get why they didn't include xmp

[stoic island]

Anandtech is weird

[scenic turret]

But jeez its a performance benchmark

[stoic island]

Ian cutress is great

[scenic turret]

At least include both data sets

[stoic island]

Their informative articles are great

But their benches are meh

[tight sorrel]

2fps. good point proven there

[frank stirrup]

show me a game where the 3700x has a massive lead child

[tight sorrel]

lol.

[frank stirrup]

ur just salty because u got a 3700x

lol

[tight sorrel]

whatever you say bud

[stoic island]

Enough has been said

[flint sapphire]

Me with my 3800x

[stoic island]

We accept the pain that is our 3800x

It is our duty as 3800x owners

[flint sapphire]

Duty

Honor

Dedication

[vague oracle]

We are still going on about 5600x>3700x?

[stoic island]

Nah

[vague oracle]

Oh thank goodness

[flint sapphire]

Just bringing up the 3700x’s twin brother who’s slightly better then him

[stoic island]

We're accepting that we have a 3800x

[tight sorrel]

wait, are we talking the 5600x or 3800x here?

[scenic turret]

3800x good days

[flint sapphire]

3700x and 3800x are practically the same thing was just joking around about a price premium for slightly better boosting behavior

It’s like negligible

[scenic turret]

Was my 2nd build which had a 3800x

[tight sorrel]

I know. was trolling a bit

[scenic turret]

Can we all agree, worst cpu value goes to 11900k

[flint sapphire]

Of course

[scenic turret]

If we all agree, world peace achieved

[flint sapphire]

10900k all day erry day

Or 10850

[tight sorrel]

not just value. everything

[scenic turret]

True

10850k is soo good for the value

[tight sorrel]

its a 10900k in drag isnt it?

[scenic turret]

I still have a brand new 10900k sadly sitting in its box atm

[flint sapphire]

Yeah it’s basically a 10900k

Much like the 3700x is a 3800x

[stoic island]

11900k has a great imc

And also avx 512 is useful sometimes for some people

[tight sorrel]

imc?

[scenic turret]

Oh no

[stoic island]

Integrated memory controller

[vague oracle]

Integrated memory controller

[scenic turret]

World peace broken

[tight sorrel]

its also useful in winter

keeps the room nice and toasty

[scenic turret]

Mining in the winter, great heating solution

[tight sorrel]

if you get 2, you can heat your entire house

[jagged ember]

Or just like run 3dmark

Or cinebench loop with furmark

[vague oracle]

Just run cp2077 on 8k ultra in an H510 24/7

[fossil cedar]

H510 elite, h510 would just be warm XD

[zealous cedar]

@vague oracle did you have the crosshair viii?

[oak jay]

i just plugged another internal hdd into my pc and its not showing up in file explorer, im pretty sure i have to initialize the drive but im not sure how.

[tight sorrel]

1. did you plug in both power and signal into the hdd?
2. does it show up in bios?

[shadow flume]

bios has to recognize it first then you can format it for use

[fossil cedar]

Disk manager is where you should be able to initialise it

[sharp temple]

Has anybody used cdkeyoffers? Are they a legit Windows 10 seller?

[shrewd fjord]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QwLVNP

[shrewd fjord]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QwLVNP

[fossil cedar]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gPRpTJ i would do this

May as well go 750w for 10$ more if you don't mind doing mail in rebate

Also nicer hdd

[shrewd fjord]

Thank you

This is way better than the 11400f right

For gaming

[desert gulch]

Ye

You can also overclock it too

[shrewd fjord]

POG

[desert gulch]

And in multicore workloads this thing will dominate that 11400f

[shrewd fjord]

Idk why I keep making these builds....... not like I am getting them anytime soon lmao

[desert gulch]

Lol

[shrewd fjord]

I will stick to my dual core 4GB RAM 2011 laptop for now I guess

Cant even run minecraft hardly

[frank stirrup]

Dont make em then

Wastes less if ur and our time

[granite linden]

what would you guys recommend for $1700? (about $50 of wiggle room) for streaming and gaming of course

[fossil cedar]

Any specific features you want?

[granite linden]

ryzen processor, ddr4-3200, some rgb is fine though not necessary

[fossil cedar]

Why ryzen?

[granite linden]

personal preference for the most part

[fossil cedar]

But you'll be paying more for a cpu that performs the same in your price range anyway really

[rich helm]

True tho

@granite linden do you need monitor and peripherals

[granite linden]

yeah i know, Intel just feels tacky

[rich helm]

Intel is life

[fossil cedar]

^ true if that's included in the price no way you going ryzen

[granite linden]

i got everything else no need to worry about it

[rich helm]

Until you get the big monies

And 12th gen is rumored to smash zen 3 too

[fossil cedar]

It's same difference, my pc is ryzen my bros is intel, they are basically identical to build in and once it's build you couldn't tell the difference

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9zns2V@granite linden

[rich helm]

Only difference is that ryzen cpus have the cooler pull them out

[fossil cedar]

Why does it say invalid user wtf

[fossil cedar]

@granite linden s

Sorry for possible double ping but it's saying the 1st didn't work for me

[granite linden]

its cool

just an aesthetic preference lol

[fossil cedar]

Cpu aesthetics that's a first

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nttxz7 if you where to go ryzen, you would have to give up your aio for it to be worth it but

[fossil cedar]

@granite linden

[granite linden]

well with the aio i wouldnt have to stare at it so problem solved

now to find a 3070 thats actually $700

[fossil cedar]

I went aio because you mentioned rgb and most people like the look of aios so

[granite linden]

hope would you not like how aios look

*how

[fossil cedar]

@granite linden wdym by you wouldn't have to stare at it then

[granite linden]

wouldnt have to see the cpu

[fossil cedar]

You wouldn't have to see the cpu anyway..... They will always have a cooler on it

[granite linden]

intel cooler

😟

ive had to see it for the past few months

[fossil cedar]

@granite linden lmao stock coolers are generally bleh anyway, no way you're using a stock cooler for your budget

[granite linden]

this is true

[rich helm]

You still can’t see the cpu with the stock cooler….

[granite linden]

well i know it's in it that's the ew part

same with cable management

you may not see the back but you know the mess of chords of there

[fossil cedar]

No lmao i shove all my cables in the back and just make the front nice

[granite linden]

i could never

hurts the soul to know it's there

[jagged ember]

Well

You could just not go for it

But intel is still budget rn

If you wanna save a buck that's where you go

[fossil cedar]

I mean i gave a 5800x option so they could just to with that

[jagged ember]

Mm true

If it's in your budget

[granite linden]

could just ask for extra shifts if necessary

[fossil cedar]

I gave you a ryzen build that was in budget?

[granite linden]

yeah but aio

it looks cool

[jagged ember]

Eh

Scyth fuma 2

Nhd15

I don't remember if a drp4 cools an oced 5800x well

All air coolers btw

[fossil cedar]

Yeah drp4 is d15 fuma level

[jagged ember]

Well there you go

[fossil cedar]

Then do the ryzen list and save up the extra hundo or so

[jagged ember]

Extra hundo is in one paycheck though

[granite linden]

i dont pay bills

[little osprey]

So you want wireless psu then

[fossil cedar]

Paycheck is when you get paid from work ;-;

[little osprey]

Lmfao

[granite linden]

well aware of that

just meant that i could use an entire paycheck

[granite linden]

yes 🗿

[fossil cedar]

Ahh

[granite linden]

that would be hella expensive

[little osprey]

Hella impossible

[granite linden]

it could be possible

just not now

thanks for the help tho @fossil cedar

[fossil cedar]

Np

[twin berry]

anyone familiar with hydro x series pump?

having a dilemma with using corsair commander hub, not having enough fan headers on it to connect the hydro series pump and fans, confused at how to have the pump running

[rich helm]

Plug the pump into your motherboard? You shouldn’t put the pump on the commander pro anyways really. Put it on the pump header on your mobo because it is kinda specific for pumps

[twin berry]

AIO pump?

thats the only pump header I saw

[stoic island]

Yes

[twin berry]

ty

[static dagger]

Hey guys, I am currently looking for a Laptop and besides the usual things like light photo editing, rendering, internet stuff etc. that every modern CPU handles pretty well to some extent I am mainly going to use it for coding. The question I have stumbled upon now is "How well do usual programming tasks like obv coding itself, but also compiling, program analysis, working with databases etc. scale with multi-threading?". This would basically answer if I should go for an Intel or AMD chip.

[stoic island]

Do keep in mind, nowadays, AMD can match Intel in single core on the current gen chips.

[static dagger]

They can?

Maybe I have overlooked it because I am facing the issue of having very specific requirements

[static dagger]

Can you link to any good benchmarks on that subject because I have seen a lot of the ol' "Intel > AMD in single, AMD > Intel in multi"

[stoic island]

For example, 5900hs and like an 11900h

[static dagger]

Yeah, the thing is I need it for CS Uni and one of my requirements is a battery life of at least 6-8h under use so no h for me

[stoic island]

For example
https://www.cpu-monkey.com/en/compare_cpu-intel_core_i9_11900h-1961-vs-amd_ryzen_9_5900hs-1855

You'll have to scroll down a bit to find the benchmarks

But they're quite closely matches on all fronts

[static dagger]

That's the thing, I want 8> h of battery life, decent screen for working outside, enough power to have low compile times and no problems running larger IDEs like IntelliJ and VS, and lastly I really want a 2in1 because the notes people are able to take using these are just too damn good

[stoic island]

There's also passmark
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/AMD-Ryzen-9-5900HS-vs-Intel-i9-11900H/3905vs4436

[static dagger]

(Also it should run Linux but I have come to accept the fact that I might need to write my own drivers for stuff like autorotate)

[stoic island]

Any modern laptop should be able to run Linux

@static dagger what's the budget?

I can help you start looking at specific laptops

[static dagger]

2000, I obviously don't need to spend it all, but if I can spend a little more for a lot better of a laptop I would, and if I can get a slightly worse laptop for a lot less, I would, too.

[stoic island]

Alright, no needs for gaming, correct?

[glossy mason]

Is this a good SSD? https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07H2RR55Q/ref=syn_sd_onsite_desktop_31?uh_it=1184e20bc6fa92d323a49e76a14ca8e4_CT&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUExN0VWQUVKMDJINEtFJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwNzY0Nzc5TE1TSUwyWUZCMU5SJmVuY3J5cHRlZEFkSWQ9QTA5NTM1NzEyR1NOVjVYRTJBUVRGJndpZGdldE5hbWU9c2Rfb25zaXRlX2Rlc2t0b3AmYWN0aW9uPWNsaWNrUmVkaXJlY3QmZG9Ob3RMb2dDbGljaz10cnVl&th=1

[stoic island]

@glossy mason that's a hard drive

[glossy mason]

Oh

[stoic island]

Not a ssd

[glossy mason]

😦

[stoic island]

HDD -> Hard Disk Drive

[static dagger]

If it can run CS:GO or Valorant on an external display at >60 fps that'd be great but that's more of a want and less of a need

[glossy mason]

I am going to delete all of that so I don't make myself look like a fool

[static dagger]

too late lol ;)

[glossy mason]

Clearly.

[stoic island]

Might be another reason to go AMD xD

AMD integrated graphics are vastly superior to Intel integrated graphics in genes of performance for now.

[static dagger]

Interesting

[glossy mason]

Would this be a good one though? Still budgeting. https://www.newegg.com/team-group-1tb-t-force-vulcan-g/p/N82E16820331555?Item=N82E16820331555

[static dagger]

I have been taking a close look at the HP Envy x360 but sadly it only comes with the Zen2 5700u which lacks the better single core performance and Vega graphics

[stoic island]

Vulcan g is the crappier version of Vulcan, vulcan is fine, vulcan g is dramless and sad

[static dagger]

Honestly, I'd just go for a Samsung Evo, pretty sure they have been some of the best on the market for like years by now.

[stoic island]

Samsung has been slacking for m.2 drives but if you're going 2.5in drives, smth like a 860evo isn't a bad idea either

mx500 is another option

wd blue works too

[glossy mason]

I actually might go with WD

I could work my magic, sell some stocks, and then boom.

Wait, could you have different SSDs and the computer will still work fine or do they have to be the same

[stoic island]

unless you're going to raid them, different drives will work fine

[obsidian wigeon]

^

[static dagger]

^

[stoic island]

hm

[obsidian wigeon]

I wish I could afford 1tb 2.5" ssd

So that I could easily just swap the hdd in my laptop instead of havin to get a caddy

[glossy mason]

Alright and pfew. Got worried.

I forgot which one I have but I am happy to hear that

[obsidian wigeon]

I have a tiny 120 gigs ssd with 1tb hdd that came with the laptop

[glossy mason]

Honestly, I want to upgrade this thing enough so that when I sell it, I might be able to cover most of the costs of the next build.

[obsidian wigeon]

eeehhh, wouldn't matter much but an ssd sure helps getting buys

cause speedy

[static dagger]

Any ideas?

[obsidian wigeon]

I could also help :p

What's your needs? Want it light? Do you care about batt life?

[stoic island]

looking like all the two in one laptops have relatively low end chips...

[obsidian wigeon]

Oh two in ones

aw

[stoic island]

Purpose is mainly coding, two in one preferred iirc, battery life is a concern, working outside is a concern

this could be a start, but not two in one
https://www.amazon.com/Acer-SFX14-41G-R1S6-Creator-LPDDR4X-Keyboard/dp/B093TK1PXF/

[thorn wyvern]

My phone is being weird how much is this

[rich helm]

1069.99

[blazing pilot]

looking for a pc in between 1300usd to 2600

[obsidian wigeon]

oh yes acer swift x is gud

but not 2in1 sadly

[fossil cedar]

That's a huge price range, would ya like to narrow it down a bit

[blazing pilot]

umm okay 1300 to 2000

[rich helm]

Do you want the best one in that price range? What are you going to be doing on the computer? Do you need peripherals like monitor and keyboard?

[fossil cedar]

^

[blazing pilot]

i dont need peripherals rn just the pc

im gonna be playing cod and val and mc and sot

so basically gsme

i want it to handle heavy games

[fossil cedar]

https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali479-gladiator/p/N82E16883360074R?itemPosition=1-12&exactIndex=0 i would do this if you're tryna save money, https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali502/p/N82E16883360097?itemPosition=1-12&exactIndex=1 if you wanna max out but it's not worth the premium for that one tbh

[little osprey]

But do you have keyboard and mouse yet

You cant use a pc without keyboard and mouse buddy

[echo vale]

if im using 2 of the same m.2 on a motherboard should i do raid or watever idk how tht works if so

or should i not worry about it

[fossil cedar]

Nah dw

[little osprey]

I dont think raid is for m.2

[blazing pilot]

1st link aint working

[echo vale]

kk

[fossil cedar]

It is for me?

[blazing pilot]

whats the name of the pc

i will search it

[fossil cedar]

https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali479-gladiator/p/N82E16883360074R

@blazing pilot try that ^

[blazing pilot]

i did it worked

i changed my to usa

[little osprey]

Whats your region

(so people can find stuff in stock for your country)

[fossil cedar]

Ohh are you not in the us?

[blazing pilot]

mhm

but the budget is

[fossil cedar]

@blazing pilot there's no point converting prices and availability are different in different regions, where do you live and what's the local currency budget?

[turbid blade]

@bright timber I know it's been a couple days but I just saw it in #build-pics. I would go ASUS TUF z490 (good enough and cheaper), LianLi lancool 215 (same price range, better thermals), Noctua NH-U12S (same price, better thermals, quieter), and maybe shoot for 3600 MHz ram kit of the same brand and size if it's in your budget. If you don't want to swap the MOBO, then fine, but I highly recommend you swap your cooler to the NH-U12S. It's the same price as the one you have and for $9 more, you can get it in cromax black.

[fossil cedar]

They've been dealt with, they were in Australia so prices are higher than usd, u12s is meh, scythe fuma 2 or hh u12a would be a good bit better btw, also the lian li 215 is also a hard plastic front

[turbid blade]

darn it, sorry, I scrolled #building-and-recc-chat up to 7/19/21 but I couldn't see anyone mentioning it, so I figured they hadn't been dealt with.