building-and-recc-chat

[earnest olive]

that's what he was saying

forget the concept of "future-proof", it doesn't exist, especially not right now

[queen heath]

oh makes sense my bad anyways will my motherboard and cpu help me last for the 4000 series

[earnest olive]

sure

[queen heath]

Alright so all I need to change is powersupply and Ram then I'm all set?

[somber magnet]

Hi actually I wanted to promote an upcoming event, where can I do that?

[earnest olive]

in a different server

[somber magnet]

F

[earnest olive]

sometimes reading the rules helps

just a thought

[queen heath]

@earnest olive What's the difference between the 10400f and 11400f?

[earnest olive]

11400 is slightly faster

that's all

well

no there's one other thing

if you put 10th gen cpu in a 500 series board you will not be able to use the top m.2 slot

bottom m.2 slot will function

none of the other differences are really relevant to you

[earnest olive]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7gDHHz

don't actually buy the 11400 at this price, wait and see if it drops again, it should be around $180/190

it's just out of stock in most places right now due to overwhelming popularity

[foggy gazelle]

Which is why I'm waiting for prices to go back down, @earnest olive I got the games I play the most working on Linux, including one of my really old games (Earth 2150), so now I am just waiting until GPU prices for Radeon cards come back down a bit

[queen heath]

Alright thanks I appreicate it also is there a fully modular psu you could recommend instead.

[earnest olive]

why do you want fully modular

fully modular is harder to cable manage than semi-modular

cables you were going to plug in regardless coming out of one spot instead of all over the psu is just easier

and regardless- it's not an issue in the p360a as it has ample space

[queen heath]

@earnest olive I suck at cable manage with psu that are wired I just feel comfortable knowing where the cables go with full modular.

[earnest olive]

i did a build in the p360a today using a non modular psu PLUS extensions

was not at all a struggle to make it fit

if you suck at cable management... like i said... semi modular is easier than fully modular

basically the only point of going fully modular is if you want a fully custom cable set that's not extensions

and considering those cost like 5 times more than extensions... pointless imo

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qkktht anyhow... if you truly insist on fully modular

there you go

[queen heath]

@earnest olive that's true okay thanks for the build.

[queen heath]

your a chad thanks I was going to buy cable extensions anways since I like my builds being aesthetic.

[earnest olive]

did this today with non modular psu and extensions in p360a

wasn't a problem

[queen heath]

@earnest olive thats a really nice build now that I think of it this is a midtower case cable managing is going to be easier to manage.

[earnest olive]

that's using the segotep gp so 2 cpu power, 4 pcie power, 6 sata power, 5 molex power, and 1 floppy power all hiding in there

even non-modular was perfectly fine

but i do a lot of builds so i have a lot of experience with cable management

anyways i don't see a semi-modular psu ever being an issue, especially since you don't need any sata

p360a is a great case this was my first time using it and I will buy it again

[queen heath]

yea man thats my problem this is my third build everytime I gotta watch videos on how to cable manage other than that putting it together is no problem.

[earnest olive]

this one is probably somewhere around 35-40 for me

stopped counting

[queen heath]

I don't have the money to build that much since I live in the bay area.

[earnest olive]

so do i

i just don't pay for them

i sell the builds, so the customers are paying for the parts

[queen heath]

@earnest olive I wouldn't be able to do that I mean it could be fun if you like it but, the amount you get out of it must be low cause of shipping and stuff right?

[earnest olive]

i don't ship

bay area people are rich

people buy gaming pcs

making a roughly $700 profit off of the build i just showed

cost me somewhere around $1400 to build, selling for $2070

mostly due to buying used hardware and getting a 3070 at msrp

[potent portal]

They're just used to paying more for things

[earnest olive]

lol, you should see socal

[potent portal]

I have 😫

[earnest olive]

grew up in the bay area, socal prices made my head spin

[queen heath]

That makes sense props to you bro I wouldn't be able to do that as I suck at taking good pictures of the build must be the area I'm living in bay area.

[earnest olive]

cannot believe people will pay $7 for a 16oz cup of boba and $20 for an average lunch

$20 not including the boba

[fossil cedar]

10600k won't let you overclock on a b560 you want a z490 or z590

I would also get an msi g242/g241 instead of that monitor

[fossil cedar]

[charred knot]

can you guys look this over?
originally was going to get a i5-11600k with this build but found an 11400 that i might be able to get
also switched mobo from z590 to b560
just wondering if it was still reasonable
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Bmb9Mv

[fossil cedar]

Yes just know that the 11400 regularly is available for 189 and shouldn't be bought at that price,also you don't need to spend that much on a cooler, an id cooling se 224xt or vetroo v5 or gammaxx 400 will do nicely

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4pGZMv

@charred knot

If you can i'd go for the 11600k

Since you have 3070

But 11400 is perfectly fine

[charred knot]

nice thanks guys

[little osprey]

Ye

No problem

[fossil cedar]

Np

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/C97NMv jus some personal changes

dont see a need for such a 'premium' case like the LC2Mesh

P360A/P400A also works here

True, i left it cause i figured it was a personal pick

p360A definitely a good alternative

more than likely user will only be running the kit at XMP, so the SPG 3200C16 @ 25 USD cheaper is a better option

Never heard of that

I dunno if i would buy 25usd ram

its 70 USD..

[little osprey]

SPG 3200C16 @ 25 USD cheaper

Ah

i am blind

all good

Good pick

25 usd ram

[fossil cedar]

I think they wanted the lancool ii mesh it was in their og list, and 3600 is a reasonable perf jump on 11th gen especially

[little osprey]

worth 25 extra usd..? send benches pls

[fossil cedar]

Lol no but like 15$ worth mb

[little osprey]

lol

[little osprey]

Vulcan Z 3200C16 - 72 USD - https://pcpartpicker.com/product/z3VD4D
if you dont like the look of the SPG

[fossil cedar]

I would trust team slightly more too tbf and looks nicer

[vague oracle]

Bruh why did y’all get rid of the ballistix and the Lancool II?

https://tenor.com/view/heart-broken-it-is-okay-gif-13305945

[icy kestrel]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9WLTLP this is my new list

[icy kestrel]

I put that monitor cause it’s cheap for 165hz adjustable

[fossil cedar]

The monitors i listed are better and the same price

@icy kestrel https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9KLmt8

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MwnRdD but if you can afford it get this instead

[icy kestrel]

I want my estimate to be 2000 but there are parts that I might find at micro center today for cheaper so if I have space for it then I’ll get it

[fossil cedar]

You could always get a scythe fuma 2 instead btw, it's a very good air cooler if you don't mind the fact it's not an aio or rgb

[charred knot]

is 750w enough for 3070 ti and i5-11600k?

[stoic bridge]

Would incompatible ram cause no display output?

[lyric thistle]

should spit out beep codes or debug led message

[stoic bridge]

I don't even know of I have the mono speaker hooked up...

[lyric thistle]

mine should be but I've never needed to use it

have you plugged the video cable into the right output port?

[stoic bridge]

Hdmi.

[lyric thistle]

when installing a gpu I just plug in both the mobo and the gpu in the case of older hardware, gotta manually change the default vga in the bios

[little osprey]

Incompatible ram would cause a display errors but should still have video output

[stoic bridge]

No GPU yet

[little osprey]

do you have igpu?

[lyric thistle]

don't tell me

[stoic bridge]

Yeah.

[lyric thistle]

are you certain

[little osprey]

Has this machine turned on before

[stoic bridge]

Nope. First time build haha

[little osprey]

specs?

I can help you figure out if your ram is the issue if i can see your specs

[earnest olive]

incompatible ram shouldn't even fit in the motherboard

[lyric thistle]

lol

[stoic bridge]

i5-8400, asrock b365m pro mobo

[lyric thistle]

it's probably the same gen ram

[stoic bridge]

it fits but MOBO site says it is incompatible

[earnest olive]

which ram kit?

[stoic bridge]

ddr4

[earnest olive]

not being on the QVL does not make it incompatible

[lyric thistle]

I have ram installed that's not on ASUS's qualified vendor list

[earnest olive]

just not validated

i overclock the crap out of ram that's not on the QVL

works great daily

[lyric thistle]

gaming 😎

I can

'

t overfclock

or type either

[thorn wyvern]

Hello @earnest olive

[stoic bridge]

i forgert the PSU brand, but its 600w

cool master

[lyric thistle]

at least it's not the warm master

[thorn wyvern]

same here I forgert what my psu is

[thorn wyvern]

Bye

Leave

/j

[lyric thistle]

[earnest olive]

do you have a dgpu

or using integrated

[stoic bridge]

ill take tepid master, if this dang tower will work

[lyric thistle]

are there any bad tier cm psus

[stoic bridge]

trying to use integrated to get the thing running, then drop in a 1060

[earnest olive]

i see

smart move

shut it down, remove 1 ram stick and leave 1 in, then clear cmos

see if it boots

[stoic bridge]

i pulled the battery, about to check

[earnest olive]

pulling battery is unnecessary on most boards

most non-oem boards have clr cmos jumper

[stoic bridge]

dunno how to use jumper

[earnest olive]

connect a piece of conductive metal to both pins to short them

hold for 15 seconds

remove and done

the list of objects i've used to short pins has grown quite comical

i got my mom to turn on a pc using a knife

[stoic bridge]

still no display..

[earnest olive]

i'd like to ask which slots you have installed the ram into

[stoic bridge]

slot 1

[earnest olive]

could be causing your issue

[lyric thistle]

should boot still

just not in dual channel

[earnest olive]

ive heard of some boards not booting with ram in wrong slots

[stoic bridge]

no dice on slot 2

[earnest olive]

not common but it's a thing

were all of these parts working before

could just be something defective

[stoic bridge]

if i use the m.2 slot, do i need to run an cables or just plut it in.

[earnest olive]

no cables

[stoic bridge]

ram worked before i puttin it in. everything was bought new

[earnest olive]

new 8400 and b365?

[stoic bridge]

well it was working before the guy stripped the ram and psu

and gpu

[earnest olive]

oh

[stoic bridge]

maybe it is a bad mobo

[earnest olive]

so the ram you're using right now is different from the ram that was tested to work?

[stoic bridge]

yeah

[earnest olive]

probably bad ram

[stoic bridge]

ram worked in a different tower

[earnest olive]

...interesting

ram is one of the least likely things to just suddenly go bad

[stoic bridge]

maybe he sent a picture of a different tower working

[earnest olive]

possible

[stoic bridge]

any test for a bad mobo?

[maiden pawn]

Finally got around to finishing the build. About to try and boot for the first time 🤞

[earnest olive]

wait

@stoic bridge

when he sold it to you

was he using the 8400 with the 1060

[stoic bridge]

no, i already had the 1060

[earnest olive]

try just booting with the 1060, possible that the igpu has failed

oh

well try anyways

[stoic bridge]

he may have been using a different on tho, i will slap the 1060 in

[earnest olive]

how long did you pull the battery for

[stoic bridge]

5min or so

[earnest olive]

it's also a possibility that bios is set to disable igpu and you didn't pull battery long enough to reset

did you make sure power supply was switched off when you pulled battery

most bios disable igpu by default when system is used with dgpu

i don't think it will reset correctly if psu is not switched off

i'd just use jumper method

[stoic bridge]

just connect the posts with no power right?

[earnest olive]

yes make sure system is turned off

[maiden pawn]

Weird banding and a slight flicker in Windows setup. Possible it’s just a driver thing since it’s a brand new build?

[earnest olive]

banding?

[maiden pawn]

The stripes vertically on the monitor

Never seen that on my monitor before

[earnest olive]

i dont see anything besides what lcds normally look like on phone cameras lol

[lyric thistle]

look at it in browser

[maiden pawn]

It’s present in person too

And it’s flickering a bit

[earnest olive]

eh

reseat monitor display cable

see if it fixes it

do it on both ends

[maiden pawn]

K, I’ll do that if Windows sets up properly

[earnest olive]

ive had some wacky visual things that were fixed by just doing that

[maiden pawn]

Damn this m.2 is insanely fast

[lyric thistle]

gaming

[charred knot]

is this worth it for $1600 has stock coolerhttps://pcpartpicker.com/list/gWHmt8

[earnest olive]

lol, no

3600 for $240

ive done 5800x + 360mm liquid cooler + 3080 for around that price

get an i5-10600K if you want to buy right now, it's at a decent price

otherwise wait for the i5-11400 to come back to normal price

[stoic bridge]

still no luck with all that

[earnest olive]

did not boot with 1060?

and you plugged monitor display cable into the 1060?

[stoic bridge]

yeah

lights fans all that jazz works, no boot noises or nothing

[charred knot]

is the H510 elite case good?

[stoic bridge]

no display out put anywhere

[earnest olive]

no

[earnest olive]

given all the info you've given me i predict 95% chance that mobo has failed

you did try jumper method right?

to clear cmos

[lyric thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/johnny-cash-ring-of-fire-gif-19768519

[stoic bridge]

there a way to use one tower to diagnose the one thats not working?

[lyric thistle]

you can get a little dongle device to diagnose an iphone

dunno about computers lol

[peak osprey]

Will a 970 work well with a Ryzen 5 3700x

[earnest olive]

no, because a ryzen 5 3700x doesn't exist

ryzen 5 3600x or ryzen 7 3700x

[lyric thistle]

ryzen 3 3960x

athlon 3970x

[maiden pawn]

Windows product key info is stored in bios isn’t it? So if I have a new Mobo/cpu all that I’ll need a new key won’t I?

[lyric thistle]

probably

[maiden pawn]

I know someone was throwing around a link for Windows keys is that legit?

[lyric thistle]

easy enough, just buy a key off ebay or log in with your microsoft account

[maiden pawn]

Just login with Microsoft account to buy a new key you mean?

[lyric thistle]

no, logging in with your microsoft account attaches a key linked to your account to your computer

or it should

[maiden pawn]

Even if my original Windows key was an OEM one?

From my prior build

[lyric thistle]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

it's shouldn't be a big deal if it happens

[fossil cedar]

dont buy that, old cpu, slow ram , awful case

[fossil cedar]

if you want a good case with glass specifically get corsair 4000x or 5000x

[maiden pawn]

So far the computer has booted and got me into BIOS. Allowed me to do a fresh install of Windows on my new m.2

My AIO and case fans aren’t lighting up but I’m thinking that’s just a simple connection mistake by me

Looks like I need a new Windows 10 key though since I changed CPU

[lyric thistle]

you should probably be able to reactivate it

maybe not but it's worth a shot

[maiden pawn]

When my SSD failed on my old build it let me do it. But I believe that’s because it was the same CPU, which I’m pretty sure stores your Windows 10 key

This is a new build with the same storage drives, but all new cpu etc

[maiden pawn]

Is there any limit to the number of ARGB daisy chain fans you have in one link? Also, if the fan only has the ARGB connector but you’ve just got a normal RBG header on your Mobo any way to make that work?

[fossil cedar]

you should be able to reuse the same key it will just "deactivate the other computer "

[maiden pawn]

My old key was an OEM one I think that’s why it won’t let me

[earnest olive]

the limit would be amperage of the source

if the fans don't list the LED amperage in their spec sheet then stick to 3 or less per daisy chain to be safe

usually you can go up to 4-5 though

[fossil cedar]

it should do

[earnest olive]

may i recommend the metallicgear neo qube instead

o11 clone

for much cheaper

[fossil cedar]

Fair i just biased against o11d type cases

[earnest olive]

why?

[fossil cedar]

The airflow turbulence mess it causes lol also i just don't like the look really lol but that's preference

[lyric thistle]

the real 011D

https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/thermaltake-intros-versa-h18-window-micro-case.237155/

(ignore that it's not even ATX)

😎

[earnest olive]

it's the best airflow you can get with a glass front

[fossil cedar]

Yeah ik but it still just feels wrong to me idk

[icy kestrel]

They don’t have the i5 11400

@fossil cedar

[fossil cedar]

Yeah

[icy kestrel]

They only have 10600k

[earnest olive]

idk i love it

[fossil cedar]

Micro center haven't had it

[earnest olive]

when i first got into pc building

i wanted to make a display case looking build

o11 style case is the ultimate "display case" imo

[fossil cedar]

Just get an 11600k online? I sent you a list with that for 2k ?

[icy kestrel]

@fossil cedar https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9WLTLP

That’s my list

Should I just get the 10600k instead

[fast dust]

kinda a waste to get a Z590 and a non overclockable chip

imo

[fossil cedar]

@icy kestrel https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9KLmt8

[earnest olive]

the decent b560s were mostly out of stock or near z590 prices last night

[fast dust]

but 11400 is better so

[earnest olive]

dunno if it's different today

[fast dust]

epic 11600k is cheaper than 11400 rn

[earnest olive]

lmao

[fossil cedar]

Yep

Sadge

[earnest olive]

but yeah you have to be careful choosing b560 boards

a lot of the lower end is... not great

some of them will even hold back an i5-11400

[stoic island]

Everything but like ds3h should be ok

hm

maybe just avoid asrock and gigabyte entirely for b560

[earnest olive]

asus and msi boards also have some

[stoic island]

looks like basically every board sub like 120$ sucks

yay

[earnest olive]

msi pro-vdh / asrock pro4 are the cheapest rn that wont hold back an i5

need to go up to like, tomahawk / aorus pro / tuf to not hold back an i9

[fossil cedar]

At that point you could just get a z590 prime almost :/

[earnest olive]

and those arent much cheaper than z590 ud

[fossil cedar]

Or ud yeah

[earnest olive]

iirc z590 prime is not very good

but might be remembering wrong idk

[fossil cedar]

Oh really? I thought it was decent

[earnest olive]

it's hard to remember asus alphabet soup

[fossil cedar]

True lol

Easier than the aorus board line

[icy kestrel]

@fossil cedar they didn’t have the mobo psu and case monitor

Someone recommended evga psu so I got that one

It’s the same amount wats

[fossil cedar]

Model is more important, what model matters

[fossil cedar]

Yeah micro center are only really good for cpu deals and gpus

[icy kestrel]

Any recommendations on any different monitors or mobos

@fossil cedar

[fossil cedar]

For what cpu, 11600k? Z590 gigabyte ud or something

[icy kestrel]

I got the 11600k

[fossil cedar]

I can't think of diff monitor off the top of my head ask in #old-monitors-and-tv

[icy kestrel]

And my list has the z590

V

[sinful vessel]

Is the Noctua NH-U12S chromax black a good air cooler? I’m looking for a smaller air cooler (that wont push up against ram either, i have 4 sticks of trident z rgb), not too loud, and fits into the 4000d airflow case.

[fossil cedar]

Get the scythe fuma 2 instead

[sinful vessel]

hmmmmm

alright ill take a look at that one then

[runic reef]

I have an issue: my mobo doesn’t have a jcorsair header and I can’t plug the Corsair hub in. Are there any adapters I can buy? My mobo is an x470 MSI gaming pro max

[worn wave]

What corsair hub do you have?

[runic reef]

Rgb lighting

[earnest olive]

hub should have internal usb 2.0 9-pin to interface with mobo no?

[worn wave]

No what model of Corsair Hub do you have

Is it this type of hub?

[runic reef]

Yes

[runic reef]

I don’t think I have one. Could you send a picture for reference

[earnest olive]

man i hate crsair proprietary

[full atlas]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GGbMht how much do y’all think I could sell this for?

[worn wave]

Corsair and MSI once had a special cable for those hubs

[lyric thistle]

for money

[worn wave]

jcorsair1

[worn wave]

Or you can buy a Lightning Node Pro and plug the RGB hub into it

Corsair stuff is so annoying

[lyric thistle]

can't believe they even sold 10105s

let alone 10105f

never saw them on the market

[charred knot]

is this good?

[earnest olive]

yeah those are good prices

if i was still in irvine i'd grab them myself

assuming the freezer is 280/360

[maiden pawn]

Anyone know a good universal ARGB fan-hub?

I should have looked into it but my Mobo only has one ARGB header and 2xRGB headers. But I’ve got two sets of fans that are ARGB

[little osprey]

daisy chain them 🤷

most likely the fan will come with a splitter

[desert gulch]

read the third line

"as well as a used arctic liquid freezer 360"

[earnest olive]

oh yeah

[desert gulch]

ye

[maiden pawn]

Tried, they aren’t lighting up. I think there are too many in a line

It’s 6 fans total. 3 on my AIO and 3 on my case

[little osprey]

did you try with two rgb connectors..

you might've fried your rgb connector lol

[maiden pawn]

I’ll try some different setups

[icy kestrel]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xtvJLP any mobo and monitor suggestions

Besides a Z590-v

[flint sapphire]

M27q

[stoic island]

Z590-a pro

[cunning knoll]

Best monitors for around $280?

[flint sapphire]

M27q…

[cunning knoll]

too expensive

[flint sapphire]

What’s your max budget?

[cunning knoll]

maybe 290

[flint sapphire]

Save up 20 more dollars and get a M27q

[icy kestrel]

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16824475009?item=N82E16824475009&nm_mc=knc-googleadwords-mobile&cm_mmc=knc-googleadwords-mobile-_-gaming monitors-_-msi-_-24475009&source=googleshopping

Would you recommend this

[flint sapphire]

I wouldn’t recommend a curved va panel, curved screens are typically more of gimmick but can be a aesthetic choice I guess. IPS>va>tn

I’d suggest looking at rtings for reviews of any screens you find

Just as a blanket statement the M27q basically out classes everything in its price/performance range.

[icy kestrel]

Any recommendations on a $250 one?

[flint sapphire]

You’d probably be looking at 1080p under $250

[icy kestrel]

270?

[flint sapphire]

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/acer-nitro-xf243y-pbmiiprx-23-8-full-hd-monitor-hdmi/6425559.p?

Man if your just gunna stay around the 300 mark I gotta say just save up, if you get tht nitro btw I’d suggest getting a Amazon’s basics vesa mount for it

The panel is pretty great just the stand isn’t the best

Bum 50$ off a buddy 👀

[maiden pawn]

Well, after a new Windows key we are up and running with the new build! 👍

Only thing that isn’t on point is the ARGB fans but that’s not a big deal

[lyric thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/yifan-zhangyifan-bonbongirls-gif-22359956

[maiden pawn]

What the best software for managing EK AIO fans/pump temps etc

[lyric thistle]

HWiNFO64 for reading temps

[maiden pawn]

I think GN recommended that one I’ll get it now

Interesting. This utility shows my ram at 1802 MHz but I have it set to 3600 is that normal?

[flint sapphire]

Yessir

[maiden pawn]

How about a good fan monitoring/setup tool? For my AIO and GPU specifically

For setting up fan curves/temp settings etc

[lyric thistle]

the bios typically

I used speedfan on my grandma's old old pc but that doesn't work with anything new

there's some newer softwares that fill the shoes of speedfan more or less

[lyric thistle]

DRAM frequency is half the label number, so 3600/2

for me, 1600/2, 800mhz

[maiden pawn]

Ah good to know

That explains that

[flint sapphire]

The DDR in DDR4 stands for Double Dimm Rate specifically

[lyric thistle]

usually taskmanager shows the label number and more specific programs like HWiNFO show the true freq

[maiden pawn]

Are there good rules for setting up fan curves in bios? I’ve never messed with it before

I know you always want your pump block at 100% and that was set by default when I looked earlier

[lyric thistle]

yea

that's pretty much it afaik

don't really know fan curve wizardry

down to your preference imo

[maiden pawn]

I’ll try and find a video on it

[lyric thistle]

I mess with fan curve on my gpu to balance noise and cooling

similar story

[maiden pawn]

I will say in the short time I’ve used the new build this freakin CPU is sweet

[lyric thistle]

nice

[frank stirrup]

which cpu?

[flint sapphire]

I like to do a exponential curve ya know like on them graphs of population over time

[maiden pawn]

Ryzen 7 5800X

[lyric thistle]

nasa computer probably

[frank stirrup]

which area tho

[flint sapphire]

Global pop or do u mean on what fan

[lyric thistle]

Null Island

my favorite island

[flint sapphire]

Fan curves be like

[lyric thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/windows00-windows2000-simpler-times-screensaver-pipes-gif-14530365

[maiden pawn]

A series of tubes

And also cats

[jagged ember]

Damn that's a throwback

Watching those tubes go really was something

[flint sapphire]

Man I kinda miss the wormhole thing

[lyric thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/screensaver-afterdark-flying-toasters-gif-14725506

[maiden pawn]

After dark

Just screensavers in general that’s a throwback

[fading oyster]

ayo

just wanna thank you all

helping me max out the pc 🙏

thanks to everyone that helped me ❤️

[stoic island]

yes

[icy kestrel]

@fossil cedar I bought the 3 fan cooler but I saw a video with and he said he had to get a 240 cooler for the 4000D case instead of the 280 he was going to get cause of no space and my coolers 360

[fossil cedar]

That's a lie, you can mount the 360mm radiator on the front

[icy kestrel]

He had a 240 and it look like barley any space left

[fossil cedar]

Trust me there is space for a 360mm, you take that bit out it's removable

[icy kestrel]

You think my gpu will fit mines pretty beefy

[fossil cedar]

Yes so is the one in the pic

[icy kestrel]

Would it look ugly if I take it out?

[frank stirrup]

not really lol

[fossil cedar]

No it looks normal, I'll get you a pic

[icy kestrel]

Also the they didn’t have the asus prime Z590-v

Would the z590 plus be worse?

[fossil cedar]

What z590 plus?

Asus prime ?

That's grand

[frank stirrup]

What cpu u gettin?

all depends on that

[fossil cedar]

11600k iirc

[icy kestrel]

^

[fossil cedar]

Taken from #build-pics it's not a 4000d airflow but it's same idea

[icy kestrel]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/R6hFf7/asus-prime-z590m-plus-micro-atx-lga1200-motherboard-prime-z590m-plus

[frank stirrup]

I would NOT buy an 11600k tbh...
11600k+z590 mobo costs as much as a 5600x and a b550 board

5600x still outperforming it

[fossil cedar]

Yeah that's fine

[icy kestrel]

It was that or a 10600k

[frank stirrup]

11400 or 11500 only intel cpus that are truly worth it imo

11th gen ofc

[icy kestrel]

My 11600k is 11th

[fossil cedar]

11600k over 10600k anyway

[icy kestrel]

I got it for 240

[fossil cedar]

That's decent

[frank stirrup]

its almost like thats what the 11 at the start of 11600k stands for.....

[icy kestrel]

Micro center does price matching

[frank stirrup]

5600x beats both

[icy kestrel]

mb

[frank stirrup]

same price with a mobo added in as the 11600k

and still a better cpu

[icy kestrel]

I get $20 off if I buy the mobo

[fossil cedar]

Ik yeah but think they wanna oc

[frank stirrup]

5600x can be oced

[fossil cedar]

Ehhh 5000 series is more just curve and pbo i guess it's up to them tbh

[frank stirrup]

and the OCed 11600k barely manages to pass the stock 5600x in certain games from GN testing iirc

5600x + b550 board>>>>>>>>>>>>>>11600k + z590 board

[fossil cedar]

11600k sometimes beats 5900x

[frank stirrup]

very few cases and small margin

[icy kestrel]

Doesn’t amd cost more

[frank stirrup]

Look at cpu + mobo prices

[fossil cedar]

Not really when you're getting an 11600k anyway

[frank stirrup]

not just cpu

[fossil cedar]

Aye

[frank stirrup]

z590 boards are spensive

and you need that to oc

b550 boards cheap

[icy kestrel]

Well I don’t want specifically z590

[frank stirrup]

and you can OC on those

[frank stirrup]

z490 boards arent much better

[icy kestrel]

That’s just what someone recommended and I saw the plus

In store

[frank stirrup]

TL;DR OCing on intel needs a Z series board which are expensive, but you can OC on a b550 board on the amd side which are cheaper

[icy kestrel]

I just need suggestions on mobos cause I don’t really wanna order it online cause no $20 off

[frank stirrup]

Intel - cheaper cpu, expensive mobo
AMD - expensive CPU, cheaper mobo

Go 5600x over 11600k

[fossil cedar]

And would need a bios update

[frank stirrup]

better perf for very similar price

[frank stirrup]

and boards with flashback are NOT cheap

[fossil cedar]

Have you got the cpu yet?

[fossil cedar]

Ye :(

[icy kestrel]

Yup

[frank stirrup]

Speaking of which, Imagine not having bios flashback pato. Couldnt be me.

[frank stirrup]

can u return?

[icy kestrel]

What’s flashback

[fossil cedar]

Then how are you getting 20$ off if you haven't bought cpu with the mobo yet???

[icy kestrel]

I think only store credit

[frank stirrup]

ability to update bios without a cpu or gpu

[frank stirrup]

thats fine

[icy kestrel]

They said if I buy a mobo within 15 days and show them the receipt they’ll give me the 20 off

[frank stirrup]

buy a 5600x with an aorus elite (wifi if want)

[fossil cedar]

;-; i bought a cheap ass board okay

[icy kestrel]

I only bought the cpu

[frank stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/evil-laugh-bwahaha-bobs-burgers-gif-5632048

[fossil cedar]

I see yeah okay lemme look at what micro center has

[frank stirrup]

btw pato google ;-;

[icy kestrel]

I don’t think they had any amd in store so can you help pick a mobo for my cpu just in case they don’t have amd

[fossil cedar]

What lol?

[frank stirrup]

google the emoji

;-;

like that thingie

it breaks google

[icy kestrel]

@fossil cedar What time is for you if you don’t mind me asking

[frank stirrup]

12 right?

[fossil cedar]

@icy kestrel if going amd i would go b550 aorus pro p with 5600x or if you don't wanna return i would go msi z590 a pro or gigabyte ud ac if you want WiFi

[fossil cedar]

12.06 yeah

[icy kestrel]

Am or pm

[frank stirrup]

noon

[icy kestrel]

Cause I notice you answer more when it’s past midnight for me

[vague oracle]

Imagine having a working flashback

[fossil cedar]

Yeah noon, i always get confused between 12 am and pm

@icy kestrel my timezone is IST

[vague oracle]

Last time I used flashback it bricked my board, but that’s just because crosshair mobos are a bit wonky with it

[frank stirrup]

Same

[icy kestrel]

What are the prices on both of them combined

[frank stirrup]

No MINE is IST

[fossil cedar]

Oof

[fossil cedar]

Nuhh uh

Irish summer time

[vague oracle]

https://tenor.com/view/spank-tom-and-jerry-tom-puppy-gif-5196956

[frank stirrup]

Nuhh uh

STOP ENCROACHING ON MY TIMEZONE PATO

BAD

https://tenor.com/view/seth-meyers-late-night-seth-not-good-bad-worst-gif-10501507

[fossil cedar]

11600k +z590 a pro :189+240?-20 = 409 5600x +b550m aorus pro-p 150+280-20=410

If the price was 240 for 11600k?

[icy kestrel]

Yeah

If they have amd I’ll switch

[frank stirrup]

WAIT SO U MEAN TO TELL ME WE LIVE IN THE SAME TIMEZONE AND ITS STILL A 4.5 HR TIME GAP?!

My brain hurts now

[fossil cedar]

@frank stirrup just in the summer, half the year it's ist, when not daylight savings it's gmt

[frank stirrup]

So then your timezone changes to IWT?

irish winter time or something?

[fossil cedar]

No lol

[frank stirrup]

am I a dumdum

I think im a dumdum

I should stick to pcs

[fossil cedar]

@frank stirrup it's ist still ;-;

[frank stirrup]

So basically ireland copied us is what ur saying

not just once

BUT TWICE!

[fossil cedar]

@frank stirrup nvm nvm it's not irish summer time it's Irish standard time in daylight savings, Greenwich mean time in not daylight savings

[frank stirrup]

So ireland copied us only once?

baf

[fossil cedar]

Yee

[icy kestrel]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/39LwrH/gigabyte-b550m-aorus-pro-micro-atx-am4-motherboard-b550m-aorus-pro

@fossil cedar is this the mobo?

[frank stirrup]

matx

[fossil cedar]

https://www.microcenter.com/product/631990/gigabyte-b550m-aorus-pro-p-amd-am4-microatx-motherboard

[frank stirrup]

matx?

in an atx case?

[fossil cedar]

Yes

[frank stirrup]

Matx in an atx case looks like garbage

[fossil cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/card-no-u-wave-uno-card-gif-15455638

https://www.microcenter.com/product/625049/msi-b550-a-pro-amd-am4-atx-motherboard

Atx

[frank stirrup]

I know I look like garbage

[frank stirrup]

good

[icy kestrel]

@fossil cedar I bought a warranty with the cpu do you know if I’d get my money back on that too?

[frank stirrup]

Whaaaa?

[icy kestrel]

Or store credit

Did I mess up

[frank stirrup]

Intel gives warranty with the cpu... you cant BUY warranty

[fossil cedar]

1 why and 2 idk lol, extended warranties are basically a scam

When you buy a product you get a warranty anyway

[icy kestrel]

Oof

I think I can cancel the warranty

Pretty sure I can

Can type c be used

With the mobos

[frank stirrup]

Yes with some of em

[frank stirrup]

which ones?

[icy kestrel]

The ones pato said

[vague oracle]

I would only get an extended warranty on like a gpu, never a cpu

[frank stirrup]

MSI one has

[icy kestrel]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/7gxbt6/msi-b550-a-pro-atx-am4-motherboard-b550-a-pro

[frank stirrup]

other one he suggested also has

[icy kestrel]

I’m gonna go with this one

[frank stirrup]

ok

works

[icy kestrel]

K I finally made up my mind

I’ve changed my parts like 30 times

Time for bed now

[frank stirrup]

gn

[icy kestrel]

Gn

Thanks for all the help

And @fossil cedar

[fossil cedar]

Np :)

Night

[frank stirrup]

NP

[fossil cedar]

@bright timber post your pc part picker link here and I'll help

Btw @thorn wyvern that's for build pics only, you're supposed to use general or here or one of the other channels to talk

[thorn wyvern]

Ohhhh kk

[bright timber]

@fossil cedar Doesnt let me post pics on this channel 😮

[thorn wyvern]

You have to be level 3

[bright timber]

Im a noob

[fossil cedar]

Yeah ik, that's why i said post the link

[bright timber]

Im an idiot

[fossil cedar]

@bright timber this link btw

[bright timber]

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/PjTLZZ

[fossil cedar]

It's fine lol

[bright timber]

yeah i see, lol

My b

[fossil cedar]

Cool I'll have a look now

[bright timber]

Ty <#

❤️

[little osprey]

if the motherboard pcb is black, and the case's inside is black
it literally does not matter

not like it should matter anyway

[fossil cedar]

@bright timber what's your budget btw?

[bright timber]

Its a build for my mate, so his a bit flexible. maybe under 2k

[thorn wyvern]

https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali506/p/N82E16883360106?Item=N82E16883360106&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-83-360-106-_-07192021

[fossil cedar]

Okay

[fossil cedar]

They are in Australia lol

[still roost]

op super manuverable fighter jet#8109 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[bright timber]

Also @fossil cedar , you see in the notes section. Would that be problem?

[thorn wyvern]

I KEEP FORGETTING

[bright timber]

Yeah lol Aud 😦

[fossil cedar]

Nope it's pretty normal

[bright timber]

oki ta

[fossil cedar]

@bright timber do they want specific features for the motherboard like wifi etc?

[bright timber]

yes, please.

[fossil cedar]

Ok

[bright timber]

Thats about it, its really just a entry level for em.

[fast dust]

Everything has better alternatives pretty much.

[bright timber]

Would you mind giving some examples if possible?

[fast dust]

Wait for patos list, since he’s making one I don’t wanna bother making a different cuz we’re probably gonna come up with similar results. If I have suggestions I’ll make them

[fossil cedar]

@bright timber https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/JXmtht

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/msHHHz this maybe if the want the usb c port on the front of the case to work

[frank stirrup]

Nop

look at pics

lol

[little osprey]

looks fine :/

[frank stirrup]

Ew

[obsidian wigeon]

hyper 212

well what a relic you got of a cooler

[fallen escarp]

so if i have issues, is this where i go?

[little osprey]

Issues with

[fallen escarp]

build

[little osprey]

Ask a question

[fossil cedar]

I agree, it is nice for extra slots but ehh

[fallen escarp]

im building a pc and im having issues with the cooler, it's supposed to latch onto the bracket but it's not

[fossil cedar]

You're gonna have to read the coolers manual, it will have full instructions

[fallen escarp]

it isn't helping

i love antec

[fossil cedar]

Okay, what cooler is it?

[fallen escarp]

it's the antec c40

i can send pics if you want

[fossil cedar]

I got the manual up now 1 sec

@fallen escarp what cpu and motherboard do you have?

[fallen escarp]

intel i5 10400F, asus TUF B560-plus wifi

[fossil cedar]

Yeah it doesn't support your cpu

[fallen escarp]

[fossil cedar]

/motherboard

@fallen escarp return it and get a gammaxx 400 or vetroo v5 or id cooling se 224 xt

[fallen escarp]

alright

[fallen escarp]

can i ask why?

[fossil cedar]

It just doesn't have support for your cpus socket

[fallen escarp]

i used an lga 1366 cooler before with an lga 1200 cpu and it worked just fine

[fossil cedar]

Ehh

That can be hit and miss

[fallen escarp]

i see

well, thank you

[fossil cedar]

Np

[errant spear]

I am looking to add another m.2 to my computer with an adapter but I am not sure witch slot would be best for my comp. I have my 1 m.2 filled so pcie 5 is disabled. Can anyone give me advice to witchadapter and slot to get? I have a asrock x99x killer board with 1 gpu

[fossil cedar]

Ehh pcie 5?

Pcie 4?

[errant spear]

My board has 5 manual says 5 is disabled when m.2 is active

I would post a pic of board but I do not have permissions for that

[fossil cedar]

@errant spear i think you mean 5 pcie slots?

When they say pcie 5 they mean the 5th pcie slot btw

[errant spear]

Yes sorry my computer knowledge is small so I probably interpret alot incorrectly it says this If M.2 PCI Express module is installed, PCIE5 will be disabled.

[fossil cedar]

No problem lol

[errant spear]

Yes

[fossil cedar]

Yeah so you're bottom slot will be disabled so any other slot is fine

2 3 or 4 is fine

[errant spear]

Okay if any better then the other?

Is

[fossil cedar]

Put it in pcie slot 3 if possible

[errant spear]

Okay tyty I'm about to order the adaptor now

[fossil cedar]

Np

[earnest olive]

morning pato

[little osprey]

morning sippy

[earnest olive]

morning sprinkle boy

friendly reminder to never buy used cpus

trying to oc this degraded 8700K is beyond pain

[little osprey]

Lmao

[bright timber]

Awesome thank you so much ❤️ sorry for the late reply

[fossil cedar]

Morning sips

[fossil cedar]

No prob :)

[fossil cedar]

Rip

[eager hemlock]

Hi, new here - I'm putting together a build for my wife, and I found out that the ASrock B550 Pro 4 that I bought needs a BIOS update for the Ryzen 5600x that I purchased for this build. The customer support agent at Newegg who I chatted with offered me an RMA to refund the board, so I guess now I need advice on picking out a suitable replacement board for this rig. Any suggestions?

[vague oracle]

Asus Prime B550

Asrock budget boards really aren’t that good I think

[eager hemlock]

I understand the 570 boards can do serious overclocking - but really all she wants is to make sure her Photoshop can Liquify, lol... what would be the pros and cons of the 550 vs the 560 boards?

mainly, I want to eliminate the possibility that any board I get would need that pesky BIOS update in order to work

[rich helm]

X570 is needed by no one

[eager hemlock]

you mean it's ahead of its time?

[rich helm]

550 is AMD, 560 is budget intel

[rich helm]

Nah there are very few use cases that actually take advantage of the small difference between b550 and x570

[eager hemlock]

gotcha

[fossil cedar]

A lot of boards will need the bios flahsed, although you should be able to do it without needing the cpu, search for bios flashback or something along those lines in your manual

[fossil cedar]

B560 is intel

[queen dagger]

can confirm

[fossil cedar]

B550 is usually better than x570 btw

[eager hemlock]

there doesn't seem to be a way to flash the bios on the ASRock I have now

[rich helm]

Yeah you will need a board with the flashback feature

[desert gulch]

https://www.newegg.com/p/1JW-001M-006M5

cant even compare smh

imagine not having a godlike

godlike way better value than any b550

[vague oracle]

Imagine not having a Crosshair VIII board

[fossil cedar]

Yep, i would get the b550 msi pro vdh wifi

[fossil cedar]

Well that's not reasonable

[queen dagger]

thats way to cheap bro

cmonm

imagine not having a 5900x in your closet

[vague oracle]

How much of a step up from my Crosshair VIII Hero is an MSI Godlike board?

[eager hemlock]

lol

[fossil cedar]

I doubt hardly much

[eager hemlock]

what does the VDH stand for?

[vague oracle]

I have no clue

[fossil cedar]

Who knows, but that's just the name of the board

[vague oracle]

I literally couldn’t find anything online about it

[fossil cedar]

Probs an inside joke at msi or something lmao

Or random letters

[desert gulch]

i was thinking more it was what display output it had on mobo, but it may be coincidence

"v" i was thinking stood for video

d for dvi

h for hdmi

but that doesnt fully line up since new vdh have dvi and dp

but if you went back and looked at the vd-pro boards, they had dvi but no hdmi, so it probably is just a coincience but thats all i could come up with

[vague oracle]

I saw someone talking about that and I think it is true but since B550 came out, chipsets changed but the name stuck

[desert gulch]

yeah

[peak osprey]

Would a 970 graphic card work well with a Ryzen 7 3700x?

[desert gulch]

i mean itll work but id def go for something much better

[vestal knot]

is there a motherboard that has pcie 4 x16 x4, 2 or 3 m2 2280 slots that isnt a threadripper board? tracking 36...20 for pci slots, 8-12 for board, 4 for cpu?

[ancient wraith]

my pc feels so slow lately what could it be

[little osprey]

Gonna need more details than that for others to help you my guy

[ancient wraith]

like what

i have a 2060 16 gbs of ram a r5 3600 and a nvme ssd

[worn wave]

How much storage are you using, how many applications do you have running in the background, what's your idle CPU and RAM usage?

There's multiple things that could cause your PC to be slow.

[fossil cedar]

Also your cpu could be overheating, what frequency is your ram running at etc?

[ancient wraith]

idle my cpu is 55c

3600mhz

[fossil cedar]

Yeah but idle doesn't tell much, what does it get while gaming/stress test

[ancient wraith]

like 60-65

[fossil cedar]

Do you have 3600 ram or are you actually reading it at 3600?

[ancient wraith]

sometimes close to 70c

[fossil cedar]

That's fine

[ancient wraith]

when i bought it it said 3600 and a turned on xmp

[fossil cedar]

Okay that's fine

@ancient wraith its probably just clutter of programs opening at start you don't know about then

[ancient wraith]

could this be a problem

[fossil cedar]

No, more likely programs running in the background you don't know about

[fossil cedar]

Idk what translucent but the wallpaper one if it's live wallpapers will use a bit of your resources

Can you open the apps on start up in settings too, because some things are in one and not the other

[ancient wraith]

ik but i have been using those for years and havent had a problem till now

[fossil cedar]

What is translucent ?

That could be a problem?

[ancient wraith]

clear task bar it looks nice

[worn wave]

What is your idle CPU usage and stuff

[ancient wraith]

while gamng

gaming

[worn wave]

Is there anything here that seems to be using a lot of your CPU or RAM?

[ancient wraith]

discord

lamo

im always in a call

[ancient wraith]

@worn wave what should i do

[little osprey]

lian li lancool 205m microatx any good?

[vague oracle]

Solid case

[little osprey]

For a 3060ti 650w is enough right

[vague oracle]

Yeah

[little osprey]

where would you get windows keys again

ebay or some trusted website

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gdtz3Z

[thorn wyvern]

Rip

[little osprey]

Can anyone check it out (list for a friend)

since 3060ti obv not easy to get what would be a good alternative (gtx970/980?)

[fossil cedar]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/B4jdkX

[fossil cedar]

It will tide them over decently yeah

[little osprey]

Ah

Thanks for the edit

[fossil cedar]

Np

[little osprey]

Should they look on ebay / fb market for a used one?

[fossil cedar]

Yeah but get them to look for 3060s in that price range too

[little osprey]

👍🏻

Anyone know about any high end gaming laptops? I need o e to replace my desktop

I also do content creation and editing

[queen heath]

I need a $700 build for a 3080.

[little osprey]

You already have the 3080?

[fossil cedar]

I sure hope so

[little osprey]

Lol a 3080 worth more than 700

[fossil cedar]

Sure 3080 msrp is 700 so unless they wanted to stare at just an fe 3080 on the desk lol

[little osprey]

Lul

[wide seal]

Intel Core i9-11900K Rocket Lake 8-Core 3.5 GHz LGA 1200 125W BX8070811900K Desktop Processor Intel UHD Graphics 750

ASUS ROG MAXIMUS XIII HERO LGA 1200 Intel Z590 SATA 6Gb/s ATX Intel Motherboard

G.SKILL TridentZ RGB Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3600 (PC4 28800) Intel XMP 2.0 Desktop Memory Model F4-3600C16D-32GTZRC

ASUS ROG Thor 850 80+ Platinum 850W Fully Modular RGB Power Supply with LIVEDASH OLED Panel and 10 Year Warranty

Cooler Master Hyper 212 RGB Black Edition CPU Air Cooler, SF120R RGB Fan, 4 CD 2.0 Heatpipes, Anodized Gun-Metal Black, Brushed Nickel Fins, RGB Lighting for AMD Ryzen/Intel LGA1200/1151

Cooler Master MasterCase H500P Mesh ARGB Airflow ATX Mid-Tower with Dual 200mm ARGB Fans, Gun Metal, Mesh Front Panel, Tempered Glass Side Panel & ARGB Lighting System

SAMSUNG 980 PRO M.2 2280 1TB PCI-Express Gen 4.0 x4, NVMe 1.3 Samsung V-NAND Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) MZ-V8P1T0B/AM

MSI GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 ATX Video Card GTX 1050 Ti GAMING X 4G

new build, any suggestions

[fossil cedar]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list please, and what's your budget have you bought anything yet?

[wide seal]

just a list so far

budget, around 2,500

[fossil cedar]

Okay I'll put you a list together 1 sec

@wide seal what's the use case?

Gaming editing etc?

[little osprey]

Looks to be that

[wide seal]

Business system 24/7 video BlueIris

[little osprey]

Whats business system

Are you doing modeling? accounting? what kinds of programs will you be running

[fossil cedar]

What kind of business system? So you'll be live streaming video kind of thing?

[wide seal]

Photoshop

Zoom

[fossil cedar]

Okay that it basically?

[potent portal]

11900k is a waste for that

[little osprey]

you could buy a 300 usd laptop and do photoshop

[fossil cedar]

Scratch the for that part XD

[fossil cedar]

Well a bit more but yeah

[wide seal]

I Know, I like to build a strong system for possible future uses

[little osprey]

So you're doing photoshop, zoom, and using it for your job

Correct

[potent portal]

Ok, but by waste I mean 11900k is about equal to a 5800X for almost double the cost

[wide seal]

ftp uploads to websites as well

[little osprey]

great

[fossil cedar]

Okay I'll put you together an overkill work pc i suppose

[little osprey]

haha

[fossil cedar]

That could be done on a potato lol

[potent portal]

My phone literally does that, and it's 8 years old

[little osprey]

Smh...

[potent portal]

My single core laptop from 2008 could do that

[little osprey]

Yarite we're trying to tell you that you don't need to spend 2.5k on a computer doing things that need very low computing power

[potent portal]

If you want to game on the side when you're not working, that changes things a bit

[little osprey]

*While you're working

[potent portal]

That too lol

Dual monitors ftw

[fossil cedar]

@wide seal https://pcpartpicker.com/list/77FvMv

That will allow you to add in a graphics card later if you would like too

For gaming or higher end video editing

[wide seal]

If I'm going to take the time to build, I want to build a good system, I don't care about the cost.

[fossil cedar]

Yeah i built you a good system lol

I can step it up to help with multi tasking mb but i doubt you'll notice the diff 1 sec

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ybzQ4d @wide seal this will be about equal, and allow you to multi task plenty

Going 11th gen for the igpu btw before someone mentions it

@wide seal do you want wifi actually?

[little osprey]

A good system can be bought for 1k

[wide seal]

Is there any compatibility issues with my list?

[fossil cedar]

Ik fal but just Incase they wanted 8 cores with the hd750

[fossil cedar]

Nope

[potent portal]

Yeah someone had to say it though lol

[fossil cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/eye-roll-ugh-stanley-rolls-eyes-gif-9403428

[wide seal]

Thanks

[pure briar]

Hello wveeyone

Have a question that's not build related persay, but it is about purchasing a new system

[potent portal]

Go ahead, we like questions

[pure briar]

I'm in the market for a laptop for content creation but there are so many different manufacturers not sure who to go with. I'm looking for something Intel/nvidia based.

[little osprey]

budget?

[pure briar]

Some OEMs I've looked at are: ASUS ROG, MSI, GIGABYTE, and Alieneare. Which manufacturer do you huys suggest?

Around 2,000

[little osprey]

I've had good experience with asus but i haven't bought from others so i can't help you much

[potent portal]

Brand isn't as much of an issue these days. It's more what you can get that's good specs in your budget.

[pure briar]

Well, I'm looking for minimum i7, nvidia RTX graphics and 16-32 GB RAM. all OEMs offer the spec I'm looking for but their priced are all over the place

[potent portal]

The only major, unchangeable difference between each laptop with similar specs is going to be power limit and cooling solution.

If you can find out how many Watts the power brick is rated for you can get an idea of how the power limits are set.

Cooling is a bit trickier. Unless there's a review of that exact model it's hard to tell how good/bad it is

[pure briar]

Most of the units I've priced power bricks range from 230-270 watts. Save one that had dual 220 watt power bricks

[potent portal]

Dual 220? Interesting. Which one was that?

[pure briar]

Can't remember exactly I've looked at so many I think it was an ASUS unit. Way out of budget too.

[pure bough]

@bright timber looks like a good part list, in my opinion. My only suggestion is, u probably don't need that high-end of a mobo

The heck, z490 boards are expensive

Scratch that, get a ryzen cpu, 3800x or something. With an x470 or x570 board

[potent portal]

Yes, it's called the overclock tax and it's imposed by Intel

[pure bough]

Lol yea, go amd 😎

Cheaper and better

[potent portal]

I've heard rumors that Intel decided they might change that next gen because AMD proved they were lying about why by allowing overclocking on almost every board

[pure bough]

Neat?

[potent portal]

They already kinda stepped back on that policy by allowing memory OC on B560 and H570 boards

[pure bough]

Idk much about overclocking :/ but ik it can get competitive. Both on the company's side, and the consumers

[potent portal]

Well the part that really sucked about Intel before that was you couldn't even run your memory at the speed that it was advertised at

[stoic island]

by the way, don't need x470 or x570 to oc, can oc fine on b450 or b550 depending on the board, and 3800x kinda sucks

[potent portal]

I'd do a good X470 or B550 personally

[stoic island]

plenty of good b550 boards with good vrms at reasonable prices

[pure bough]

Lol I always hear that, get b550

I agree

Idk about the 3800x, I just thought it was comparable in performance to the 10500k

[potent portal]

Lol, no, just, no

[pure bough]

Maybe not?

Lol

Idk then 5600x,

[stoic island]

10500k.....?

[pure bough]

?*

Intel bad

[stoic island]

uh

I'd much rather get a 10700k than a 3800x tbh

[pure bough]

Same

[stoic island]

even on a b560 board without oc capabilities

And 3800x will easily lose to 5600x in gaming

[potent portal]

3000 was where AMD started to hit a level playing field, then 5000 blew us all away

[pure bough]

Yep!

[potent portal]

IPC went up, what , 20%?

[pure bough]

Good time and bad time to upgrade

[stoic island]

Prob something like 15% for both generations

[potent portal]

Something around there yeah, which is still crazy for a single gen difference

[fossil cedar]

No problem :)

[fossil cedar]

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16834233376

[austere wagon]

Anyone know of 3 RGB fans I can get off Amazon for a little under 50 bucks

[potent portal]

https://www.arctic.de/en/P12-PWM-PST-A-RGB-0dB/ACFAN00232A

[austere wagon]

Thank you

[desert gulch]

That's argb not RGB but ig itll work

[austere wagon]

What’s the difference I’m not good on that

[desert gulch]

Connectors

[stoic island]

Arctic also has rgb p12 fans

[potent portal]

3 pin instead of 4

[desert gulch]

Yeah

[austere wagon]

Thank you

[desert gulch]

Ones 12v ones 5v

[stoic island]

ye, they're very different

take care to figure out what headers you have

[earnest olive]

argb is basically superior in every possible way as long as you have the headers to support it

[stoic island]

ofc 50 LEDs is better than 2 :P

[earnest olive]

lower power consumption, better color accuracy (in my experience), per-led control

most modern boards that are above $80 have at least 1 argb header

[potent portal]

My X470 only has 2x 4 pin headers

[stoic island]

yea, need to pay attention to check

[desert gulch]

Here's a pic to kinda show it better

[earnest olive]

ehh i guess current gen would have been a better word than modern

b550/x570/b560/z590

[austere wagon]

These are my cables can they take ARGB fans

[worn wave]

PSU does not matter, what motherboard do you have?

[austere wagon]

B450 Tomahawk Max

[worn wave]

I do not believe it has A-RGB headers