#building-and-recc-chat

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desert gulch
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around 100 bucks for 1tb

modern shadow
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still a few buck difference

jagged ember
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sn550 does great for a non dram drive

desert gulch
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same thing as sata ssd

muted patio
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Even the 500 GB are the same price

lyric thistle
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if you can populate nvme on your motherboard, do so until you can't populate any more,

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meager nacelle
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So a sn550 would be faster, the same price, and 1tb?

lyric thistle
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then use sata drives lol

modern shadow
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just about the same price

desert gulch
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heres the mp33

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another great drive

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5 more bucks than the one on ur list but will easily outperform it

meager nacelle
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by wester digital right?

lyric thistle
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sn550 is

meager nacelle
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Better?

desert gulch
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anyone here know how good airflow is on that case?

meager nacelle
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yea i saw a few videos, people say its really good

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the only flaw is you can notice small details that are missing to cut down on the cost of it but still really good for airflow and comes with 5 fans (3 argb)

jagged ember
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nice

meager nacelle
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also changed the fan to a Fuma 2 to help with over clocking

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Is over clocking even worth it?

jagged ember
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yeah, it is

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it's basically free performance minus the electricity fees

meager nacelle
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alright, good to know

still roostBOT
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Squirrel God#0931 has been warned

Reason: Mass mention

meager nacelle
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whoops

lyric thistle
meager nacelle
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i guess saying thanks through pings doesnt work

muted patio
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Pings work

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Just not more than a couple at a time

urban trellis
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is 3800 xt on 0% usage not manually overclocked at 4.2 ghz good?

meager nacelle
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Thanks MrManiac, TallFox, Ryzen, Hypercore and VintageRacer

desert gulch
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np

lyric thistle
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yw

ancient wraith
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any one know how to this thing on steam when im installing a game it restarts itselfs alot of times

desert gulch
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Who else's brain just died from reading this ^^^^^^ lol

lost cedar
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Has anyone had issues with the motherboard receiving power, but the pc won’t turn on?

potent portal
lost cedar
potent portal
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If you touch a screwdriver to the two pins on the motherboard that the power button is supposed to go to, does the computer turn on then?

lost cedar
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You mean the eight pins?

simple dock
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Hey I’m trying to build a pc that I will use to stream and play call of duty on can someone recommend some things

potent portal
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There's 8 pins total, 2 go to the power button, 2 go to reset button, 2 go to the HDD LED, and 2 go to the power LED

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Touch the two pins for the power button

potent portal
lost cedar
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I will try that, but I gotta remove the gpu to access them.

simple dock
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1500 and like 140ish around that area

simple dock
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Yeah

frank stirrup
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Mate with 1500 dollars these days its hard to even get 140 fps in warzone let alone stream

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ur gonna have to get lucky with a 3060ti or a 3070 and snag it at msrp

simple dock
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Really what’s a really a recommendation for a budget I can go higher i just wasn’t sure of what to say for budget

potent portal
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$1500 is just above entry level right now tbh, since GPU prices are insane right now.

frank stirrup
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^

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1500 will get you like a 1660

potent portal
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If you're REALLY lucky you can do a 5600X and 3070 build but that's not likely unless you already have the GPU

frank stirrup
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yep

simple dock
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Damn my friends have been saying GPU prices or high af rn

little osprey
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I built my system with a ryzen 5 5600x and 3070 for just under €1700

frank stirrup
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a 3 year old card goes for 600$ these days

little osprey
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but that was back when the 3070 was still available for pre-order for €690

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which was still above msrp but meh

frank stirrup
lost cedar
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So do I do the screwdriver thing after I turn the ps on ? 🤡

frank stirrup
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faaaarrrr too much for that build

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especially since 11th gen intel i5s exist

fathom shoal
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can i have pc recs for 1500 or under

frank stirrup
frank stirrup
fathom shoal
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mostly like csgo and val

frank stirrup
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resolution and fps?

potent portal
potent portal
fathom shoal
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sry im not rlly good with pcs

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mines just rlly slow and i wanted to upgrade

potent portal
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I linked a good $1500 pc just now, take a look.

potent portal
tight sorrel
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gotcha

fathom shoal
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btw is the ryazen 5 good cause i heard its not that great but idrk

potent portal
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The 5600X is god tier for gaming

fathom shoal
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okok

frank stirrup
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Falcie wont a 11500 be better price wise

frank stirrup
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gives more budget for that GPU

potent portal
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Single core performance is phenomenal for the price

frank stirrup
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since msrp isnt a thing

fathom shoal
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lol

frank stirrup
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Well yes but the 11500 is no slouch either

fathom shoal
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wait one question how much ram do u think is needed

potent portal
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16GB is plenty for 95% of people

frank stirrup
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16 GB

fathom shoal
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okok

potent portal
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32GB is overkill unless you're doing workstation tasks like rendering and unreal engine open world game development

frank stirrup
fathom shoal
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@potent portal whyd u get 2 tp with another 1tb

frank stirrup
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heres a slightly modded version of the list thats slightly more possible to build

fathom shoal
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and for the 3070 it doesnt show where its being sold for 500

potent portal
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The 1TB is for games and OS while the 2TB is for cold storage, movies, music, documents, etc

potent portal
frank stirrup
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Falcie look at the list I sent

fathom shoal
frank stirrup
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600 for a 3070 slightly more possible

fathom shoal
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wait does new egg sell it

frank stirrup
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Yep it does

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not the reference one tho

potent portal
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Newegg sells the 3070 but NOT the founders edition

frank stirrup
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^

fathom shoal
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wouldnt it be smartter to go for a gaming laptop with a 3070 and a ryzen 7 with 16 gigs of ram

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for 1400

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tho

potent portal
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Best Buy has the exclusive rights contract for the FE

fathom shoal
potent portal
frank stirrup
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maybe even more

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depending on the TDP of the 3070 used

fathom shoal
tight sorrel
frank stirrup
potent portal
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Laptop parts are set to a much lower power draw, less power means less powerful, meaning less fps

fathom shoal
tight sorrel
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laptop 3070 is NOT the same as desktop 3070

frank stirrup
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founders edition is the card made by nvidia

fathom shoal
fathom shoal
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that makes more sense

frank stirrup
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other manufacturers like asus gigabyte etc make their own designs

fathom shoal
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do u think a pre built might be better

potent portal
frank stirrup
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those ones are more expensive

fathom shoal
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okok

fathom shoal
potent portal
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If you have $2300 you could get a good prebuilt with a 5600X and 3080

frank stirrup
fathom shoal
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and what are some sites that i could snipe the 3070 from

fathom shoal
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to spend on one

potent portal
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Well prebuilts only go up in price from there, so I guess that's out

fathom shoal
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ok

frank stirrup
fathom shoal
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wait ca a 2060 do the same thing if i over clcok it

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clock*

potent portal
potent portal
fathom shoal
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the 3090

potent portal
fathom shoal
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why cant i link it

potent portal
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Need to level up to do links

fathom shoal
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oh

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wait can i send it to u in dms rq

potent portal
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sure

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That's the nvlink bridge, used to connect two 3090s together

fathom shoal
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oh ok

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if i were gonna buy one on ebay would it be more or less

potent portal
fathom shoal
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lmao

potent portal
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Ebay is 2 to 3 times the retail price

fathom shoal
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ok

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wait is there anoyone here who i can buy it from jsut wondering

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oor smthn

potent portal
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Nope that's against the rules

fathom shoal
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oh. ok

fathom shoal
pallid geode
fathom shoal
potent portal
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Newegg shuffle

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Luck of the draw, literally

pallid geode
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??

fathom shoal
potent portal
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Yeah, I had a 2700 before and X470 still works perfectly fine

pallid geode
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the 5000 series only work with b550s or x570s

potent portal
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False

pallid geode
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i thought atleast

fathom shoal
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what 5000 series

pallid geode
potent portal
fathom shoal
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oh ok

fathom shoal
pallid geode
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this is mine

potent portal
pallid geode
fathom shoal
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wait

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idk how to build a pc

pallid geode
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bro ur los

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lost

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prob should do some research

fathom shoal
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i should

potent portal
fathom shoal
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wwait dso what do u think abt it

potent portal
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That prebuilt looks ok but it's on backorder

fathom shoal
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whats that mean

pallid geode
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which pre built?

potent portal
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That means you won't get it for a long time

fathom shoal
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thats fine with me

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and when u mean long do you mean like 2-3 months or more

potent portal
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And your name is green now so you can put links in chat

fathom shoal
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okok yay

potent portal
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It says they estimate it to ship on the 28th but it could be next month by the time it does

pallid geode
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it looks good

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but u could save money by not having the capture card

pallid geode
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unless u want to stream

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ur xbox or something

fathom shoal
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its in my price range

pallid geode
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kinda a waste of money to force u to buy the capture card

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but other than that its a good pc

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for a prebuilt

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airflow looks meh

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the cpu cooler is kinda meh as well

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prob will run pretty hot

fathom shoal
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it should be fine to run war zone rite

pallid geode
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yea

fathom shoal
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or cooler

pallid geode
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kinda annoying they have a itx board insetad of atx

fathom shoal
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and how much is the capture card

pallid geode
fathom shoal
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okok

potent portal
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Not the worst prebuilt I've seen for that price still

pallid geode
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capture card im not sure if its a 4k 60 fps its like 200 bucks

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but it prob isnt so idk the price

potent portal
pallid geode
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yea so added 100 bucks and build fee prob like

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100+

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but tbh its still worth it since u would spend months trying to get a 3060

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or end up buying for scalper prices

potent portal
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Yeah might be your best bet to get a shot at having a GPU at all right now

pallid geode
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yeah

fathom shoal
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100+

potent portal
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Yeah part of what you pay for in a prebuilt is the "build fee" for them to put it all together and install Windows

fathom shoal
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doesnt windows come with it alrady

potent portal
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By the time it gets to you, yes. The build fee is included in the price.

fathom shoal
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this is gonna be my second pc btw i dont rllyknow how it works my dad set mine up when i was youmnger lol

fathom shoal
pallid geode
fathom shoal
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damn

potent portal
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Well, it took me 5 months of effort entering the LTT gamer gauntlet (I was always too slow) and entering the newegg shuffle every day, plus trying to do the best buy drops which was pointless and full of bots...

fathom shoal
pallid geode
potent portal
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You got lucky, things weren't this bad back in Nov

pallid geode
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yea thats why

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i tried getting a 3080 ti

potent portal
pallid geode
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and i havent seen it get in stock anywhere yet

potent portal
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It just launched today, if you weren't in line an hour after it was announced two days ago you'll be waiting a lot longer

fathom shoal
potent portal
fathom shoal
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oh ok

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how muchd id ur pc cost in total

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afte u got everything

potent portal
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I do know that a lot of people on this server do eventually get selected, it just takes persistence

potent portal
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My PC? Including my monitor, headset, etc I'm a little over $5k

fathom shoal
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damn do u stream or anything

potent portal
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Half of that 5k is just the GPU 😭

fathom shoal
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u got scamed LMAO

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2500 on cpu great deal fr

potent portal
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That was the retail price though for my 3090

fathom shoal
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oh

potent portal
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It has a water block

fathom shoal
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what do u do that u need a 3090 im just wondering like whats so hard that u need a 3090 to use to run it

potent portal
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Honestly, I don't need a 3090 at all and I know it. I wanted a 3080. But RNGesus decided I would eventually win the Newegg shuffle, but only if I was willing to shell out big money on the 3090.

fathom shoal
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oh ok

potent portal
fathom shoal
potent portal
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It's currently -$30

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I don't live by microcenter

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I bought it back in February

fathom shoal
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@potent portal do u think a 2080 is good for like running warzone smoothly

potent portal
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Absolutely. That's more a CPU dependent game though.

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Any Ryzen 5000 or an Intel 11400/11600 would run it the best

fathom shoal
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wait how good r raedeon gpu's

potent portal
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The RX 6000 series is roughly equal to the Nvidia 3000 competing part

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The Nvidia cards really only have an advantage with a few gimmicky features like DLSS and better raytracing, and a good encoder for streaming

fathom shoal
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@potent portal how abt the 5000 sries does that compare too the 2000

potent portal
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Yes, mostly. The 5700 XT was the highest model of the generation and competed with the RTX 2070 enough that Nvidia decided to make a Super version of a few GPUs.

frank stirrup
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Nvidia has far better ray tracing though

potent portal
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But then the next step down, the 5700 without the XT was competing with the 2060

frank stirrup
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6000 series amd ray teacing is similar to nvidia 2000 series

potent portal
frank stirrup
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True I personally dislike raytracing

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Im just putting all the info on the table for people to make an informed decision

fathom shoal
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is it worth it

frank stirrup
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yes it is

potent portal
frank stirrup
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still has the buy button tho

potent portal
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Just means the seller forgot to take down the listing, it's offerup not ebay

frank stirrup
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I see

potent portal
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G'night

green laurel
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hello i recently purchased a 2080ti and noticed my 2070 has 6 + 8 sata connector and the 2080ti has 8 + 8 is this normal for a psu not to have 8 + 8 is there an adapter i need to get or do i just need to upgrade psu?

white blaze
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PSU isn't moidular?

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modular

green laurel
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no it is not

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its a crappy 650 that i got with a pre build a long time ago.

white blaze
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I'd get at least a 750 w modular to replace

green laurel
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i was looking at this ,

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do u know if that is a rep company?

fossil cedar
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If it's a 650w tho you want a new psu

fossil cedar
green laurel
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the enermax is 266 on newegg? am i missing somthing?

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ok nvm found the one i think you are talking about

winter marsh
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Howdy ho

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I was thinking about building asus tug gaming Z590 WiFi with the 10th or 11th gen intel cpu

fossil cedar
green laurel
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yep just placed the order thanks for recommendation

fossil cedar
fossil cedar
winter marsh
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The cpu is either 10900 or 11900 in 1200 socket, and the best O/C I can do is on the DDR4

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It’s just a updated desk companion for my Asus Tuf X570 WiFi with a Ryzen 5600x cpu

stoic island
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I mean, do you want to OC the cpu or oc the ram?

winter marsh
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Dram naturally

stoic island
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Soo board doesn't really matter

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Pcb only really matters for like 6000+ mt/s

fossil cedar
winter marsh
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I’ve read the reviews and benchmarks

stoic island
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I mean, I guess 11900 has a tiny bit better imc

winter marsh
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I air cool everything and avoid AIO’s since my Corsair beef started years ago

stoic island
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3600mhz ram wr is on 11900kf under ln2

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11900 is hard to cool though

fossil cedar
winter marsh
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Benefit of 11th gen is the Pci4 support

stoic island
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@fossil cedar I'm talking current world record

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Top 3 are 11900 (k)(f)

fossil cedar
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Pci4 isn't utilised by drives or anything fyi

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Or gpus

stoic island
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Fourth is 11600k

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Fifth is 11900kf

fossil cedar
stoic island
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Current highest memory frequency subs

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@fossil cedar and Intel has had the better imc for years

winter marsh
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M.2 spec for Pci4 not for gpu use

stoic island
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Zen 2 APU IMC was pretty good, but rest was just Intel better imc

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Lemme find the highest memory frequency sub with a Ryzen chip

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@fossil cedar 8th place is a 4700ge with 3333mhz ram, compared to first place with 3600mhz ram and 11900kf

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Granted 3600mhz looks to be djr under ln2 and 4700ge was with micron rev b (?)

stoic island
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@hallow glen not out yet

hallow glen
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ah

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when it out

stoic island
# hallow glen when it out

We'd need benchmarks and such on it by people like GN to really see if it's useful or not after it's out, so it'll be a while before that's able to counter dlss

hallow glen
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yeah

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but

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when it out

stoic island
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Remeber how dlss and rtx and such existed for years before ampere

hallow glen
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uhuh

stoic island
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So I'd rather wait for other tech to be more developed before putting them as equal

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Because the old supersampling AMD had was just wacky

hallow glen
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ok

stoic island
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We'll have to see

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Dlss 1.0 was also kinda bad

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Looked bad, but dlss 2.0 now is good

fossil cedar
stoic island
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Bruh

stoic island
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@fossil cedar we were talking about memory, what'd you think we were trying to talk about >:p

fossil cedar
fossil cedar
urban trellis
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Hey guys i just had a question is 1.35 volts on a 3800 xt good?

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the stock is 1.4 volts

obsidian wigeon
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It's small decrease, doesn't matter at all

potent portal
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Measure your voltage under stress test loads

urban trellis
potent portal
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If your load voltage is above 1.3v you will degrade your chip

obsidian wigeon
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under voltage won't kill it

obsidian wigeon
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it'll just crash with not enough power

urban trellis
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yea ill stress test it

potent portal
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Idle voltage doesn't matter at all

urban trellis
obsidian wigeon
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however ^

obsidian wigeon
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lmao

fossil cedar
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Beautiful, what ram did you get?

rich helm
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I needed more ram but I was so reluctant to get it lol

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Don’t you love 110 dollar 16gb kits

potent portal
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Considering my $110 got me B-die RGB memory, yes

rich helm
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Mine is not b die I don’t think

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3600 cl18

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Mmmm

potent portal
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Probably not

rich helm
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The timings kinda suck too

hallow glen
hallow glen
potent portal
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Prime day is coming, upgrade that shtuff

rich helm
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I don’t even like the rgb anymore

fossil cedar
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ohh you got trident z

rich helm
fossil cedar
rich helm
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But then I realized fe cards look horrible with rgb

fossil cedar
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oof

rich helm
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I want to do a rebuild with blacked out stuff

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Custom loop with black tubes and such

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But it would be expensive

potent portal
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One guy said he got the kit running at 3800 14-14-14-30

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Could have probably done more tbh

earnest olive
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very respectable already

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probably hit the limit of what he was comfortable with voltage-wise

potent portal
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Yeah if you go too far past 1.5v you need at least better airflow around the sticks, preferably a dedicated fan

last apex
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For my next PC build should I get the Corsair 4000X or the Lian Li 011 Razer Edition? (What do you guys think of those cases?)

potent portal
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Both are decent options, 4000D airflow is higher performance than 4000X but it won't make much difference unless you're running high power chips

last apex
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I'll keep that in mind

winter marsh
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I've actually started a RGB rebellion

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my last case is a auto RGB unit, not controllers or pins required

little osprey
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Unsure if this is the place for it BUT I need a nice gaming chair

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That’s not stupid expensive

last apex
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dont get a gaming chair

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get a normal ergonomic office chair

winter marsh
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lol doesn't look like newegg has a furniature chat room

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my desk is glasstop, bbad for building a HOTAS arm hardware around it

little osprey
earnest olive
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you know what doesn't look glorious

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back pain

last apex
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exactly

earnest olive
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get a real chair

little osprey
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I’m also looking for desks

last apex
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i made the mistake of getting a "gaming chair"

little osprey
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I had a gaming chair as well and I figured the reason it was uncomfortable was just because it was cheap

stoic island
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All gaming chairs be kinda uncomfortable

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Only exception was the Hermann Miller x Logitech one

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Only because Hermann Miller carried Logitech

little osprey
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Nobody in their right minds would buy that

stoic island
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That's how Hermann Miller chairs are

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Some are in the thousands

frank stirrup
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That lumbar support tho

last apex
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no

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uncomfotable

little osprey
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Leather too

little osprey
last apex
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i have it

stoic island
little osprey
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Do you see that price

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For an office chair

last apex
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lmao

stoic island
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Yes

potent portal
last apex
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just get a ergonamic chair from office depot for under 100

stoic island
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But yea

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You'll get better deals on good chairs at brick and mortar stores

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That's just one from Amazon

potent portal
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Quite, mesh>cushion

little osprey
last apex
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a blacksmith?

little osprey
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A smithy

last apex
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whats a smithy

stoic island
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Find a Ikea Home Depot Lowes etc

frank stirrup
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I have a chair thats velvet an leather with like the hotel bouncy bed type feel to sit on

last apex
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oh

frank stirrup
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Very comf

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Except hot day

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Not comfy then

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I wan holey char

stoic island
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I'm going to continue to reject ergonomics and use a wooden chair for my gaming chair

little osprey
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It was AWFUL

potent portal
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Mesh doesn't wear out as fast as a cushion will, especially if you're like me and have a backup beeper

stoic island
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I don't care, I'm spending like 600$ in peripherals before chair upgrade is on my list

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:p

potent portal
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When I back up you hear "beep, beep, beep"

little osprey
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Why did stupid discord get rid of recent pings tab

potent portal
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Because I have a large rear

stoic island
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Discord didn't remove it

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It's still there

last apex
potent portal
frank stirrup
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Ahhh I see

last apex
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oh

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rear not ear

little osprey
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And I don’t know which one

last apex
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why

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how do you not know which one

little osprey
stoic island
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Bruh

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Clean it up

potent portal
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There's a big red number on the servers you've been pinged in

stoic island
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Now

last apex
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clean

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it

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up

frank stirrup
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Im extremely underweight and my cushion chair already wearing out

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Oh 1 sec

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From a student group that im in

stoic island
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Fix it

frank stirrup
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Lmao

stoic island
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People why

last apex
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whyyy

potent portal
# little osprey

Let me save you some time: Right click the server, mark as read

stoic island
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Yes

last apex
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why no clean notidcations

frank stirrup
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Mate im too scared to open the messages

last apex
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y

frank stirrup
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My phone will actually die

last apex
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chaRGE UT

stoic island
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I'm near the discord server limit and I have no notifications atm

frank stirrup
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Its already hanging by a thread

stoic island
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I haven't counted since, but when droq invited me, I was at the limit, and had to leave some servers

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:p

frank stirrup
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Oh wow

last apex
#

jee

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im only in 25

potent portal
#

Easy trick, mute servers you don't use much lol, no notifs

stoic island
#

Ofc

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That's what I do

#

But people in the servers I'm in are generally nice, and don't @ everyone often

frank stirrup
stoic island
#

So I check every ping notif

potent portal
#

Yeah that's what I'm saying, I figured that was how you had no notifs with so many servers

stoic island
#

Ye

frank stirrup
#

I leave servers that ping too much

stoic island
#

There are a few servers where I suppress @ everyone tho, not nice people

little osprey
#

I don’t care enough to clean it up tbh

#

It just gets right back like that in a few days time

stoic island
#

it's simple @little osprey

little osprey
#

Ok

little osprey
last apex
#

I do actually

versed gull
#

@earnest olive i saw you have a 360mm galahad, would you mind helping me real quick?

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it’s a question about mounting on the case

earnest olive
#

I have not opened it yet

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sorry

versed gull
earnest olive
#

nope

#

what is your question though

versed gull
# earnest olive what is your question though

so for context i have the o11d mini and obv am top mounting it. there are screw holes where i assume is where you screw in the radiator through the case. the screws themselves are pretty short but i’m worried about the screws slightly going into the radiator fins

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the aio orientation is 100% correct but i’m just wondering if the screws are fine slightly touching the fins

earnest olive
#

pic?

versed gull
#

can’t send pic here as not allowed by permissions but i’ll pm

#

oh wait i’ll post in #build-pics and delete afterwards, hold on

muted patio
#

It's fine, as long as it doesn't hit a tube and just hits the fins, it's as designed

earnest olive
#

looks normal to me

versed gull
#

ok i just wanted to make sure

#

thanks both of you

meager nacelle
#

Does anyone mind sharing their opinion on the EVGA 650W GQ power supply?

muted patio
#

It's "OK". There are usually better supplies for the money available

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Depending on the wattage

winter marsh
#

@meager nacelleEVGA is more reliable than Corsair

versed gull
#

damn and here i am sitting with a corsair SF600 lol

winter marsh
#

but depends on wattage requirements

muted patio
#

Model > Brand

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Don't buy a PSU based on brand

versed gull
#

although it’s 80 plat and has good reviews

#

oh nah that’s never a good idea for any part

muted patio
#

SF600 is a good one but also an SFX psu

hallow glen
versed gull
#

yeah i didn’t have much choice because there aren’t that many good/reliable sfx

hallow glen
#

what is sfx

winter marsh
#

@versed gull I am biased because I had a Corsair AIO and three new PSU die on me out of the box

versed gull
#

small form factor

hallow glen
#

ah

#

k

versed gull
#

i have the o11d mini so it fits only sfx and sfx-L

versed gull
#

thankfully i was able to test it out for 10 mins due to me having to flash the bios

winter marsh
#

@winter marshjust had the common sense to store warrenty the last two and swapped to a EVGA

muted patio
#

A very good portion of EVGA PSU's are just meh

#

Enermax Revolution is great

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Phanteks Amp is great

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etc

fast dust
fast dust
#

G3, P2, GS, good examples of PSUs that were almost so great

ancient wraith
#

What button is bios

muted patio
#

DEL usually

covert vapor
#

Or F2, I've had to use F2 frequently

ancient wraith
#

How do I change my fans to DC instead of pwm

jagged ember
#

either delete, f12, f2, f8

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probably delete though

ancient wraith
#

I'm in bios

jagged ember
#

it'll tell you on the bootup splash screen

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look for fan control

ancient wraith
#

All I see is smart fan 5

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And I don't see anything in there

jagged ember
#

maybe switch out of advanced mode

ancient wraith
#

Ok hold on

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No

muted patio
#

hit F6

ancient wraith
#

O did

jagged ember
#

what do you see

muted patio
#

It should be in there

ancient wraith
#

This

jagged ember
#

lol that's it

ancient wraith
#

Yah

muted patio
#

CPU_FAN Speed Control. Change from Normal to DC mode

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Or COntrol Mode down below from Auto to DC Mode

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It's one of those two

ancient wraith
muted patio
#

Voltage

ancient wraith
#

That's all that's there

#

Ok

muted patio
#

Voltage = DC Mode

ancient wraith
#

Do I have to do it for every individual one

muted patio
#

Yes

ancient wraith
#

Ok

#

I also need to change something so bluestacks will work

#

I forgot

ancient wraith
#

Idk if I meant to do that

#

What's the lan thing

#

That may have been a accident

#

Is it wake on lan?

jagged ember
#

google is a thing lol

#

i'd just google that and tell you

drifting garnet
#

Does DDU get rid of GeForce Experience?

viral ore
#

it should

drifting garnet
#

Ok thanks

dire dagger
#

What’s a good Ethernet cable I literally can’t find a good one

lyric thistle
#

an ethernet cable

#

cat5e or up

#

buy on monoprice

potent portal
#

There's no practical difference between a cheap cable and a "good" cable. That applies to HDMI and DP too. As long as it's rated for the speed/version you need, it'll work.

earnest olive
#

rgb cables tho

desert gulch
potent portal
#

I'll bet someone has

earnest olive
#

technically rgb

potent portal
#

Now this is actually pretty cool , might consider using these for the next business network build https://www.cableorganizer.com/mertek/evo6-patch-cord/

#

Self tracing cable? Sign me up

solid dust
#

What would you say the best rgb 360mm aio for overclocking a 10900k would be?

stoic island
#

Ek aio

potent portal
#

Probably the ek yeah

stoic island
#

Not ek aio basic, nor the elite
One is wacky, other is spending too much money

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Just the one called ek-aio

solid dust
#

Thanks

meager nacelle
ancient wraith
#

is it ok to disable some of this stuff

jagged ember
#

Google will tell you what each of them mean

#

But yes

ancient wraith
#

ok

median knot
#

Can anyone help me build a pc on pcpartpicker

potent portal
#

What budget and what is the PC for?

ancient wraith
#

whats this one

#

i cant find anything online

jagged ember
#

The buffer size of system memory that can be used by the adapter for sending packets, which can be increased to help improve the performance of outgoing network traffic, but it consumes system memory.

little osprey
#

why does my share screen in laptop dosent work on tv

fossil cedar
#

Usually you need to set your tv to hdmi/pc or something if it already is, do windows p, then select duplicate

obsidian wigeon
#

^

cosmic cloud
#

hey guys, i just got a 5600x, but when i put it in the mobo the system boot loops with no display, and the gpu fans are on full speed. as soon as i put my 1600af back in it works no problem. Ive tried resetting cmos as well as resetting bios. I have reseated ram and reconnected all psu cables. I have also made sure my motherboard is compatible with 5000 series and updated my bios. any suggestions?

fossil cedar
#

Nvm just saw

#

Was it a beta bios you used?

cosmic cloud
#

nope just the latest release on the website

fossil cedar
#

Try the 2nd most recent bios

#

Sometimes the first one is beta

cosmic cloud
#

alright ill be back

fossil cedar
#

Hopefully that works

cosmic cloud
#

@fossil cedar ive tried that it hasn’t changed anything

#

i’m not sure what else it could be

fossil cedar
cosmic cloud
#

nope just a boot loop with gpu fans at full speed no display

#

and like i said everything works perfectly with the 1600af

fossil cedar
#

Hmm what board is it?

cosmic cloud
#

b450m pro4

muted patio
#

Is that Pro 4 in a prebuilt?

cosmic cloud
#

no i built it myself

muted patio
#

Ok good

#

BIOS version 5.10?

cosmic cloud
#

i tried that and it didn’t work, someone suggested using a previous version so right now it’s on 4.60

#

yep ive just stuck my 1600 back in and it works perfectly

muted patio
#

In the BIOS itself, does it say 4.6?

cosmic cloud
#

im not sure, but it says so in msinfo32

muted patio
#

What was the original BIOS version you had?

#

IN the BIOS notes for that board, there are certain steps that need to be taken while updating

cosmic cloud
#

i unfortunately dont remember

muted patio
#

"**** If the current BIOS version is older than P2.00, please update BIOS to P2.00(PinnaclePI-AM4_1.0.0.6) before updating this version."

cosmic cloud
#

certain steps like what? i have used instant flash to update it today

#

hmm

muted patio
#

Have to update to a certain version first before just going straight to the newest

cosmic cloud
#

i did not see that ill try it

#

where did you see that?

muted patio
#

I'm also suspect of the BIOS update itself because on the newest one, I don't think the 1600AF should work because they removed microcode for the Summit, Pinnacle and Raven CPU's

stoic island
#

I wonder if it just doesn't let you update beyond 4.6 because you're using a summit ridge(?) Chip?

cosmic cloud
#

hm so you're saying since i can boot my 1600af on "5.10" then it might not actually be 5.10?

stoic island
#

Yea

muted patio
#

Yes

cosmic cloud
#

where did you see the documentation about updating to p2.00?

#

i cant find it

stoic island
#

Scroll down on bios page

muted patio
#

"Update AMD AGESA to 1.0.0.6.

  • Please install "AMD all in 1 with VGA driver ver:18.10.20_NHDA" or a later version before updating to this BIOS.
    ** If you updated the BIOS before updating the AMD all in one driver, please refer to the Display recovery SOP to recover your system."
cosmic cloud
#

are we on the same web page?

#

im here

#

oh it doesnt let me link

muted patio
#
cosmic cloud
#

ok yea thats what im on

muted patio
#

All the yellow notes in the BIOS descriptions

#

According to that, your 1600 AF shouldn't work

cosmic cloud
#

hm when ive updated the bios it says update completed successfully

#

so if i update my bios to 5.10 and my 5600x doesnt work what should i do

#

cause it wont recognise the 1600?

muted patio
#

No Diagnostic LED's on that board?

cosmic cloud
#

nope

#

im going to check the version in the bios in the meantime brb

#

ok it’s on p4.60 rn so i’m theory it should work right

muted patio
#

Yes, it should

cosmic cloud
#

so i still cant figure out why its not

#

do you guys think its doa

stoic island
#

CPU DoA too rare to conclude right now imo, I think it's still bios being weird

cosmic cloud
#

is there anything else youd suggest i try?

#

im open to anything i really want this to work

#

this is my parts list

muted patio
#

Try it with just one stick of ram in A2

#

Maybe it doesn't like all the ram all at once

cosmic cloud
#

alright brb

#

a2 being the left most slot?

#

nvm its the second slot

#

but ive actually tried that

#

ive tried each of the 4 sticks by themselves

#

@muted patio?

muted patio
#

IN what slot though

#

It needs to be in A2 or B2 to work properly

cosmic cloud
#

i tried each stick in a2

#

same result

muted patio
#

IDK at this point. I'm not finding any smoking gun doing some research with that board and the 5600x upgrade

cosmic cloud
#

man

#

that sucks

muted patio
#

I know. Might be CPU at this point? Return it and try another one or test the CPU in a friends machine?

cosmic cloud
#

i guess ill have to try a new one since my friends are on intel

#

its just gonna be a pain since it was delivered from newegg i did not get it in store

muted patio
#

People report their old CPU works after the BIOS update, they pop in the new one and go.

#

So I don't see any reason it shouldn't work :/

cosmic cloud
#

fr i dont either

#

wait i just remembered my brother has a b450 pro4 (atx not micro atx)

#

im dumb

#

im gonna try in his

fossil cedar
#

Yeah try it in your brothers, you could just be unlucky and it could be a dead chip at this point ¯_(ツ)_/¯

cosmic cloud
#

wtff

#

his isn’t detecting the bios file

#

cause his is on 3.90

#

but it’s not seeing the 4.60 file

#

guess i cant test it on his

#

i think ill just rma :(

hallow glen
viral ore
#

nah, dont get a pc off ebay

#

look locally

#

plus, thats an auction

urban trellis
#

ok so i have an older monitor that uses vga and i have a vga to hdmi adapter that works perfectly fine

#

now i have my main monitor plugged into my 3060 ti and then as soon as i plug the other hdmi in the other monitor doesnt work and my cursor keeps going on and off the screen

#

and its really laggy then

#

anyone know how to fix this?

#

and now when i plug the 2nd monitor in both monitors r just black screens

royal nest
#

Is x570 compatible to run 3200mhz ram?

muted patio
#

yes but it's not ideal for AMD 3000/5000 CPU's

muted patio
#

It's honestly probably the VGA adapter

royal nest
urban trellis
#

it works on other pcs tho

muted patio
#

AMD and intel likes faster ram

#

3600

#

or a tad more

desert gulch
#

Yeah

#

3200 is for like more 10th gen intel

#

Id try to go 3600 c16 or higher if possible for the new cpus

royal nest
#

Processor is ryzen 3600

muted patio
#

A 3600 in X570?

desert gulch
#

I'd grab a crucial ballistix kit

muted patio
#

Odd pairing

desert gulch
#

And that

#

Id go b550 and 3600 c16

#

3600 can take advantage of 3600mhz

royal nest
#

When i turn the ram into the slot it only runs at 2133

urban trellis
#

enable xmp in bios

royal nest
#

Where can i find it?

desert gulch
#

In bios

royal nest
#

Where in bios

desert gulch
#

What mobo

royal nest
#

X570

desert gulch
#

Can differ based on manufacturer

muted patio
#

Should be on the main home screen Simple view

desert gulch
#

Yeah

muted patio
#

Either DOCP or XMP

desert gulch
#

Could be in overclocking

royal nest
#

Asus tuff gaming wifi

muted patio
#

ON the main BIOS screen

desert gulch
#

Yeah

muted patio
#

It's called DOCP in Asus

desert gulch
#

I have that same board

#

Set it to whatever speed your ram is rated for

royal nest
#

When i set to 3200 it doesn’t go beyond bios

desert gulch
#

Click f10 after you set it to 3200

#

So it will save and restart

muted patio
#

What slots is your ram in?

#

A2/B2?

desert gulch
#

That too

#

I had the same issue when I built since I put ram in wrong slots lol

royal nest
#

So if it’s in b2 set it inti a2?

#

Into*

muted patio
#

Only one stick?

#

You don't have two sticks?

desert gulch
#

If you only have one stick put it in a2, meaning second slot away from cpu

royal nest
#

Yes

#

One

muted patio
#

Get another stick as soon as possible

scenic turret
#

Highkey recommending to get 2nd dim

#

Ryzen loves dual channel

desert gulch
#

I love dual channel

muted patio
#

All CPU's like dual channel

desert gulch
#

XD

royal nest
#

So i have four slot put it into second slot?

muted patio
#

From the CPU left to right, 2nd slot from CPU

#

It's labeled on the board A2

royal nest
#

Enable docp?

#

It’s disabled

scenic turret
#

Yep enable it

static ravine
short gust
#

Hi

muted patio
#

what's up

hallow glen
#

my friend's budget went up! good pc build for under 1k?

#

it has to be prebuilt unfortunately

static ravine
#

rip

static ravine
hallow glen
solid dust
#

Having a corsair RM 750 wt psu should be good enough for a 3070ti and an 11600k right?
3070 ti draws 290 watts and cpu draws 125

muted patio
#

More than enough

solid dust
#

Ok, thanks

#

I was originally going to get a 3060 ti or a 3070 for it awhile ago, but I think I have the best chance just waiting outside best buy on the 10th for one

static ravine
hallow glen
#

it is itx

#

so that is sus

ancient wraith
#

@muted patio my fans sometimes still dont turn on

#

it only turns on when i put them at full speed

vast cosmos
#

Bruh @pseudo cliff that's 40 years ago ljao

#

Lmao*

fierce grove
#

I want to put a custom loop in a thermaltake p3 in the horizontal configuration, which means I need a resevoir that's only 7 inches

#

also I really want something silent

#

and that works with asrock polychrome

#

I was looking at the thermaltake pumps, but a lot of the reviews say they are noisy

pseudo cliff
fierce grove
#

ok

fierce grove
#

is it better to get a pump/res combo or separately?

stoic island
#

Bykski and barrow nice

#

Together less annoying

rich helm
clear moat
#

Bad to have a case with no filters?

rich helm
clear moat
#

Would it be bad if I didn't run on?

#

My current case has a filter just wondering

fossil cedar
#

Filters good, less dust

clear moat
#

Tru

potent portal
#

Filters reduce dust but at the cost of a small amount of your airflow.
It's doable to run without your filters on but you'll be doing a lot more dust maintenance for not a lot of airflow.

#

Unless you have really thick filters, which I've seen. Those just suck.

glass plover
#

Hello everyone. I am new to pc gaming and I am trying to find what the best pc I can get for my budget. I have a budget of 1000 to 1200. Some of the games that I play are FFXIV, Ark, want to try Rust, among other survival games and MMOS. I am mostly a mobile gamer so I would like a PC where I can run multiple games on multiple instances. I would like to get a pc where I can start streaming as well if I desire. Yes I know the prices on graphics cards are expensive so I am looking for something that I can use for now with out a graphics card and later I can easily buy and add one. Thank you so much for anyone that reads this and decides to help me I sure can appreciate it.

potent portal
#

1200 is slightly over entry level right now. Let me see what I can throw together.

stoic island
#

@glass plover Well, how much do you think you can spend later on a graphics card? I would say that's the main question atm

glass plover
potent portal
#

Ah that's much more workable

stoic island
#

Yea... smth like 1000 without GPU is a lot of room in terms of budget

glass plover
#

and to be honest i just want something that would run bluestacks 5 smoothly with two or three instants open everything else is just a bonus

#

like right now i can only run one game in bluestacks and play ff14 if i want to play ark i have to shut off bluestacks

stoic island
#

well, ark is horribly optimized anyways....

ocean oxide
#

anyone have any predictions on when the gpu market will calm down? i literally only need a gpu and my pc is finished

hallow glen
#

2022

#

2023

#

idk

#

u prob can get a gpu in 2022

#

but stock wont be normal till 2023

ocean oxide
#

well like close to normal price

stoic island
#

Quickly threw together an overkill igpu build, @glass plover I wouldn't expect this to play rust or ark natively well without a GPU, but with a GPU, it should be good, although if your focus is on just straight up more instances of bluestacks, it might be worth swapping CPU for a 10700k or smth, it's also just overkill, lots of spendy bits you probably don't need.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/snWkBc

ocean oxide
#

and not $600 overpriced

hallow glen
#

consider

stoic island
#

I remain with my broad estimate of 2024, there's no other solid information we can work off of other than just fabs being finished in a few years :P

hallow glen
#

but not buy

ocean oxide
#

my budget for the entire think was 1k i cant spend 1k on a singular part

hallow glen
ocean oxide
#

also if the market doesnt get good until 2024 i migjt honestly sell all my stuff

stoic island
hallow glen
#

ok

ocean oxide
#

thats when i graduate and i cant use a pc after that

hallow glen
#

wait what does it mean

stoic island
#

hell, different manufacturers measure it differently

#

cubic feet per minute iirc

#

but it really means quite little for coolers

#

@hallow glen you can probably slap a 200cfm fan on a 212evo and still get worse performance than a fuma 2, despite like quadrupling the cfm rating on the fans on the fuma 2

hallow glen
#

wow

stoic island
#

@hallow glen think of it like you could have the best fan ever on an aio, but if it's just a random 120mm rad, it can't do much against a mediocre 360mm aio

#

the heatsink matters quite a lot

hallow glen
#

yeah

rich helm
#

Fuma fans do be slow tho lol

analog knoll
#

what do you guys think about this build.. ryzen 9 5900x, msi 3080,1tb 980 pro ssd, 2tb hdd, 16gb gskill trident neo ram 3600mh cl14, evga 850 psu gold, lian li galahad 360 liquid cooler, lian li lancool mesh 2 case, asus am4 tuf gaming x570 wifi, how many fps you think i can expect in warzone 1080?

jaunty river
#

215 on average on low

#

188 on high

rancid lodge
#

32gb RAM is the performance sweet spot

#

If you could afford 2x16 at 3600 CL16 (or 14 if you can afford that furthermore) it’d probably be a better option

#

Also if you’re going for the tuf gaming x570 and a 5000 series, get the pro version

#

Trust me, you will want that bios flash

#

If you don’t have it, getting your bios updated will be extremely difficult, basically forcing you to either borrow a compatible CPU to slap into the system temporarily to update the bios, or just return the mobo and get one with flash

#

@analog knoll but yeah at 1080p you’ll get around 175 fps with max settings

fossil cedar
obsidian wigeon
#

980 pro ssd is overpaying lol

#

a gaming build won't need that kinda ssd

#

pilot e is a lot cheaper

fossil cedar
#

Or sk hynix p31

#

I would just go ballistix 3600mhzcl16 2x16gb might as well get 32gb for a build like that

obsidian wigeon
#

yeh

cursive walrus
#

i need some help with removing a part on the msi b550 pro mobo

#

it wont come off

#

no matter what phillips i use

#

nvm it worked

obsidian wigeon
#

you should specify which part lol

meager badge
#

Or 1 time 😄

#

0.5 times.

obsidian wigeon
#

wha no

#

it doesn't really matter much, unless the file is so huge and full of small bits of data

cursive walrus
#

500 gb

obsidian wigeon
#

oh

#

you figured it out at least

meager badge
#

I am curious to test the Pro versus my old PC with the old SSD. I haven't assembled yet the new PC, I got all parts beside the GPU, and even if I didn't want a GPU now I am hoping to catch one cheaper :))

muted patio
#

Ah, smaller screw. Need a #1 philips for that instead of a #2

cursive walrus
#

yeah

#

which way does it go

#

the completly black

#

or the side with stuff on it

stoic island
#

Are you trying to install it or remove it

cursive walrus
#

install

stoic island
#

After the heatsink is removed, the side with the pins on the SSD goes into the motherboard's port

cursive walrus
#

ok

muted patio
#

Side with the sticker facing up, unless you took it off. The label that says WD faces up. This side up

cursive walrus
#

ok

#

i finished the mobo completely

#

what should i do now?

#

i did ram cpu and storage

stoic island
#

What cooler do you have

cursive walrus
#

nzxt m22

stoic island
#

Eh, could install that now, and place into case.

cursive walrus
#

how?

stoic island
#

Fan onto radiator and then into case

sullen agate
#

I have asked this question a lot but I am going to ask it one more time in a professional gaming PC server Pre built or Build my own PC people say pre built is cheap build is cheap idk whats true people say the pre built is better because it saves you the time and people have convinced me pre built so any good Gaming pc's?

muted patio
#

Budget?

sullen agate
#

About 900 for the pc

#

I have the monitor and other stuff ready to be ordered

hallow glen
#

what are u using it for