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good days.
@stoic islandwe have that too
we did that in windows xp days
Link
Some ppl actually doš
i remember watercooled ddr2
@stoic islandwait
linus once water cooled an ssd
yeah
that was done too
in windows 98 days
i remember a fella making his own waterblocks for that
from solid copper blocks
Talented
admittedly it made more sense back then than now
is there a water cooler that will cool vrms but isnāt a monoblock
when fans were as loud as a train
maybe.
wouldnt doubt it
Not really
Doesn't make sense to cool the VRMs and not be a monoblock imo
form over function
but there are deffo options to do it.
Single block is a mono block, is it not :p
It really doesn't make sense to cool each mosfet
i mean
It just doesn't
it doesnt make sense to watercool a lot of things
it doesnt make sense for hard tubing to exist
Asrock X370 Pro BTC+
Bitcoin+
better days
š
Yes, that's ASRock's page, what about it
Hmmmm, was gonna get the AFII 360mm until I realized it doesn't have a separate cable for pump -_-
Where is it from an Indian retailer >:)
one day im going to watercool my pc entirely from aliexpress
@stoic island wait
Lol
that sounds like a great idea to me
You know what, while you're at it, look for a bitfenix whisper m
and no it wont be necessary
i got a windows xp rig i built
it runs at like 25 celsius
got a massive cooler for what the cpu is
q6600 for now
Oh yea, I wonder if you'll find any bykski or barrow parts
what
:)
Point is, not everything can be found, and what can be found, is often at a much higher price than the US
why
why not
good point
can i take out all my case fans and put in different case fans without an anti static bracelet
yes
yes you can
please do not
i beg you stay away from rgb
you dont know what rgb turns you into
lmfao
of course it isnt
lmfao
lord forbid we talk about discord mods.
what fans should i get then
personally id recommend arctic
f12
although idk
i just buy the cheapest fans i can
and i never had issues
that really depends how much youre willing to spend on fans
I have the ML's š
lol
ahahaha
tfw you spent hundreds of dollars for spinny pieces of plastic because it has soveit train technology in it
but yeah i guess if its worth it for you
idk how much magelevs cost
i did get a discount for them
lol
6 for around 200
wat
you overpaid
theyre 150 for 3 on amazon
after ny tax that is
Purchases above $110 are subject to a 4.5% NYC Sales Tax and a 4% NY State Sales Tax. The City Sales Tax rate is 4.5%, NY State Sales and Use Tax is 4% and the Metropolitan Commuter Transportation District surcharge of 0.375% for a total Sales and Use Tax of 8.875 percent.
like what?
yup
i would never spend more than 5 bucks on a fan
tbh i just dont want my first build to look bad if i got the money to make it look good...
Ah nice, looks like you can split off the fans on the Freezer II.
i just closed my case up with a side panel
oof
tbh i should've went that route
Z53 is really meh cooling, it's all looks
the reality hits harder when you dont have the side panels for your case though.
worse yet, when you just cant fit one because the cooler is too big
thats when the reality hits
i want glowy ones
ones that light up
whatās some good light up fans
š¦
is there any place to find a ryzen 5 3600 near msrp?
neh
bestbuy/adorama are on backorder/sold out and idk how long it'll take, not near a microcenter, dont trust ebay
Do 11400/10400 isntead, more performance and cheaper
nah not yet
ah
If not yet, Intel better then
then yeah, intel better
am trying to plan it out and find places to buy parts before actually buying
11400 is cheaper than 3600
And outperforms it
i've heard that intel better for gaming but is it better overall or just in the gaming area?
hence the reason i said so
so back when ryzen was first coming out (1000/2000), it was a good option but the price just got too high for it to be worth it now?
Price to performance has decreased
Intel is the new budget king
And for what you're looking for, 3600, Intel out performs it for less money
5600x is faster but more expensive
ah ok
So Intell 11400/B560 motherboard/3200 C16 ram
would looking at an 11500/11600 really be worth it or is 11400 a good cpu to get?
11500 is good if you need an integrated GPU
11600 really needs a Z590 motherboard which takes the cost up
why would a z590 be bettere for an 11600?
11600 is not a k tho
Better VRM cuz the 11600 pulls a lot of power
200 watts
Even the non-K
I mean you could do a nice B560 but if you're going 11600 why not K?
ah ok
thanks for your help!
Guys should read the mobo manual and install stiff or without cause ik where everything goes
is it fine for this 1 case fan cord to run down or is it going to āeffectā airflow as people would say
itās only 1 case fan cord but usually people say the littlest things effect airflow
but the new ones got that printed on them usually

ill take that as a āthatās fineā
people always say the littlest things effect airflow
itās weird
so i figured ide ask
Small cable isnāt going to increase temps by 10%
thatās what iām sayin
Itās not even going to do anything
Reason: Bad word usage
turbulence is irellevant
in a closed case like that
tbh.
unless you have some seriously weird things going on in there
Hide all cables.
most people ive heard say that cables dont matter in airflow
itās... one cable
nice build doe
omg look at the outlet
2 wires
mans is wildin
hmm
Hey guys quick question
Can I test my pc without a cooler
Just to see if it works
With stock cooler yes
If you wanna burn up your CPU, sure
Don't
Hey guys do I mount the radiator first or the pump
What budget
How cheap is cheapppppp
They talking about your tech deal
560
Ahh okay lol
Oof they don't expect to play games with that?
the budget is 560
I5 office pc all you gonna get
better than what they have
they have a pc with a 2nd gen intel igpu
soo
and anyway its for their whole family
Okay lemme see what i can find
its just to play mc with mods
and also what office stuff or whatever his parents are doing
the second one should be perfect for him thanks @fossil cedar
Hey guys do I need to connect the front panel connectors so turn on my pc for a 1 or so
@fossil cedar my friend has a 2nd gen intel chip, is it possible for him to just put in a gpu? will it be better/
Nope the prebuilt is the best bet intel 2nd gen wouldn't be worth putting gpu in
To get it to turn on you just need to connect the power one
Or you can short it with a screwdriver
Just to see if everything is working
I need help. I hooked everything up and such, but the video isnāt going to my screen
I have the HDMI cable in the graphics card and it is
happens alll the time
It is on. Fans are running and such
Any recommendations for a new desk/chair
check every cord
ikea for desk
I donāt know what other cord there is.
chair doesent matter too much
where is your hdmi cable going
Into the TV
Iāve been scouting Amazon for stuff Iāll look there
the outlet i mean
amazon is good for desks and chairs tbh
L desks are best for pc gaming
you can put ur case on the end of the L
ok the small part
Mmm
what
What motherboard
Yeeup. Still not going through
What motherboard and cpu is this?
@glossy mason
ASRock B450M-HDV R4.0 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard
and cpu?
AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor
What slots is your ram in?
make sure there in the correct slots
should be 1 empty in between
From the CPU left to right
the slots might be different colored too
empty, ram, empty ram
Yeah thatās what Iām looking for an L shape thatās a darker wood finish
that would be nice
darker wood
but make sure itās a L, best idea
@glossy mason is it, empty, ram, empty, ram
Sure
From the CPU, left to right, empty slot, ram, empty slot, ram
I have just a straight one right now and I donāt like it. Rather have the L so I can have a monitor running software on one side and work/games on the other half
I only have two slots
hmmm
Well then
that negates that issue
Take a stick out, leave only one in and try and boot again
Alright
What GPU is this BTW
wat
sometimes that happens
AXRX580 Red Devil
iāve seen it happen b4
Yeah
do u have DDR3
This is the darkest wood but I could get this in complete black or white
DDR4 is universal ram
No. Ddr4
You literally cannot put DDR3 in a DDR4 board
looks good

BS
leaves
doubt
here iāll find the message
Anyway, take a stick of ram out and see if it will boot
i say we banish whatever techie said such a thing
Alright. Iām doing it
I tihnk you misunderstood them
Iāll take their spot
no i SWEAR
that, or they were joking around
i saw them say DDR4 fits every slot
and there was some context you missed
nDeed
they mustāve been being a jerk then lol bc i was getting mad that my ram wouldnāt fit
but it ended up fitting
it was just tight
apparently, bc i know all the techies here, and they are all p much smarter than me
so like
ĀÆ_(ć)_/ĀÆ
Searching turns up none of those phrases
it wasnāt worded the exact way
i canāt remember how they said it
but i REMEMBER it like yesterday
could have been a different discord server or sumthn
possibly but i swear it was here
Hmm I remember a techie refuting something like that yesterday
How long would this take to boot up and get windows on it?
it wasnāt yesterday
Should take about 5 seconds to see BIOS screen
ez seconds
what
like not too long
SO which account was this on? Cuz searching your history reveals nothing about installing ram
shush
then it was a different server my bad
i remember someone said universal ram tho
at sometime
Lmao
it was a different server for a fact then
what happened
Unplug power supply from wall, remove CMOS battery, wait 2 minutes, reinstall it, then power back up
CMOS?
its the little circle battery
mine is under GPU
Oh ok
u see it?
what board do you have dex?
scroll up
Ill show u where it is in a screenshot
cba mate
thanks
whatever CBA is
Looks like it yes
yes
iām pretty sure
thats where it is
yes
Ok it is out
just follow this
wait a few minutes
now wait 5 mins and put it back in
then reinstall
this
You have CPU power plugged in too yeah?
Alright
unplug pc from the wall as well
Check all your cables while you wait
Unplugged
All power and all drive cables
And yeah, everything is plugged in right I think
Double check it
double check once
Alright
And if anything, Iām iffy on the power thing
Like the reboot and stuff. The small pins in the bottom right
and power for drives if you have them
And yeah. Got those
lmfao
each hard disk gets 1 cable from mobo and 1 from psu
Oh, also, for the GPU, it is both an 8 pin and a 6 pin. Do I plug in both?
That won't keep it from POSTing
Yes
yes
Alright.
Some cards dont have 8 pins on the gpu tho
in that case use the 6 pin
Otherwise 8 pin
Mine has both
both?
Then use both ends of the cable
Good
nah thats molex
Yeah I know.
pretty useless unless fan hub or rgb hub
Iām just uneasy due to this being a first computer build Iāve ever done
And gonna plug the thing back in. The circle battery
Go for it
Still nothing
Ehm
no diagnostics on the board either
hmmmmmmm
This is with only 1 stick of ram?
Yeah
Yeah. It turns on
Is the RX580 new or used?
ebay?
Mmmmmm
Friend
but it might also be a drivers problem
SATA
And it is plugged in
No M.2 drive?
What?
i thoight he said he canāt get it to display on his monitor or screen?
bruh
^
Tried all the HDMI ports?
Yeah
no windows=no drivers being loaded in
I'd try a different one yeah
Still nothing
fans spinning?
Ya
Yeah. Both
he said yeah
Unplug all grives yeah
Ok
Wait 1 second what cpu is in there?
Yeah but that's old marketing
board needs a bios update
Dex could you send a pic of the box the motherboard came in?
3000 series BIOS has been out since 2019
So if the board was purchased new it has the right BIOS
Hey guys should I mount the aio pump and turn it on cause I am going to be returning this mobo cause itās used and pins is broken
Does the PCIE 1 need to be plugged in?
Just making sure
Ya, for sure
Yes it does?
You bought it used?
That's GPU power yeah?
Yeah I think so
No they told me it was new and can put used
who did?
But it is plugged in the PCIE2 and running
If it's a power cable it doesn't matter, power is power
@queen forge posted someone elses setup
Ok
They're all hot
Probs just faulty then not used
Who's setup?
Would it be easier to do this in a VC?
Cause I want to see of everything is working
Return the mobo if it's damaged
was it deleted?
It actually belongs to r0cketscience on tiktok
i think i saw it
no
Oh wait
Ok should I test my stuff
where is it
I have a disc that says driver dvd.
Do I need to plug that in?
No
Ok
alr
Reason: Bad word usage
I feel as if I screwed itās up
Guys is it ok if I take out the m.2
While itās on the mobo and installed
With the thermal pad on it
Like will anything happen to the m.2
why wouldnt it be ok?
I got it
Thank you
Ok than thx
@frank stirrup should I test everything or no
Like my parts than return the mobo
To see if everything works
Mobo is busted, return it
what do you mean by missing pins?
and what makes you think its used?
Because some connectors are supposed to have missing pins
I mean only one pin is kissing and one is tilted
and iirc the thermal pad stiskers were still on as well
pics
easy to bend it back tbf
@muted patio is it messed up beyond fixing?
and whats the missing one?
Buy another one is missing
IDK, gotta find out what the issue is first
t next to it
And with no diagnostic LED's, that's gonna be hard
Thats supposed to be an empty thing
not all rgb connectors are the same
I mean
Wait let me show u something else
Apps
When I took it out of the box the ram dim was open
that means nothing
at all
the seal on the bag was intact yeah?
Thats completely normal too
The only thing I can say for now is to try each stick of ram in one slot to see if it boots, IE, one stick in slot one, boot, slot two, boot, other stick slot one, boot, etc
Oh ok
these things happen in shipping
someone put the plastic back on?
I mean I think
r u sure u didnāt just forget to take it off
I didnāt touch it
lol
I donāt mean that way
Hold on. Gonna get a friend over to see if he can help me, Retro
Thats the rgb header on my fans so yeah it 100% isnt missing anything
Different ambient temperatures while shipping can cause bubbles
oh i see
bubbles
i thought he was saying someone literally put it back on without him knowing
lol
@muted patio
Aight, we got progress
That means you need to make a Windows 10 Boot USB to install Windows 10
What was the issue?
see above
And my friend is here. We are getting the media creator downloaded
Good
Do that, put it in
Don't forget to go into the BIOS and load RAM XMP profile
so it runs at the speed you paid for
Save and exit after you do it
It shoul dbe on the main BIOS Home screen
Then install windows 10, DL your games and have fun
Will do
Anybody know of any controllers for RGB that work with MSI fans? My motherboard doesnāt have a connection for them
What was wrong with the pc btw?
Bruh
You're supposed to hear a click for each side when putting in ram...
Yee
Anyone know if this is a software problem or the stick itself is messed up. The memory is only like a week old.
I'd check software tbh
š I have like 4 different Apps that control rbg xD wondering if there conflicting . Also the rams rbg is blinking that is what is wrong with it.
is there something wrong with the ram?
Look at the rgb on the right stick
yeah, colors went wonk
I'd check software first
it's just me or it's noisy when it's blink
Yep and they are like brand new so I donāt think they are failing . Should I just uninstall and reinstall software?
Like maybe one software tries to update the ram rgb every 100ms, but another software overrides it
Just
Rgb software is wacky
Uninstall all of them and see what happens
Lots
Alrighty sounds good, Iāll see if that works.
Post code and cheap don't go together
200$ mininum basically
B550 Pg velocita prob
And you might be able to
Who makes that b550? Don't recognize the name
dont think this belongs here, but why does my dedicated gpu send its temp to nzxt cam but not nzxt cam mini mode
ASRock
A glitch with cam
Cam being bad
Ohh
The heck is mini mode
If you want OSD, afterburner+RTSS does it better
Hell, aida64 has an OSD
it shows stats like clock speeds, temps, fan speeds in a tiny window
I'm assuming it's a thing that floats on your desktops screen and shows temps etc
yes
mini mode
Yea
106c?
f
Phew
i tried forcing myself to use celsius but i gave up
@subtle sentinel then how would you know when it's throttling?
Throttling temps are all measured in C
:p
Tut tut
eh idk
i just like looking at it
and why does my gpu sit idle at 120 f
It looks like Icue is the software that is causing the problem.
And we don't know how close that is to throttling :p
49 c
49c is normal
ok
You can leave it alone
i just feel like thats a bit much for idle temps :p
It's not
Idle temps dont matter either
Ye
Only load temps
ok
Also 49 idle on core or junction?
Prob doesn't have separate sensors
idk
Most likely core
Yeah
i just have a gt 620 thats all i know
Yep definitely core
ok
opinion on this for a 5600x
Hey guys is it ok for my pump to rest in my case
Witouth being on the cpu
Or no????
No
like while still building?
Yeah itās fine
To just have the radiator screwed in
And have the cpu block rest
As long as you either donāt have thermal paste on it or keep the plastic tray on it
So I have the radiator scree in
Screwed
But I have to return my mobo so my pump is laying ont he ran
So is that ok
Yeah if you donāt have the mobo ready yet then thatās fine
I donāt want the liquid to get massed up or smth
Itās just laying on my bottom fan
For now until I get the new mobo and install it
Here let me show
The liquid will be fine
Is this ok
Yep
Ok I was just worried about the liquid
during building process yes
all good
tbh pro4 good nuff
Yea
3600 if you want
Build list for $900 USD?
For what use?
Apex, valorant, csgo, OBS editing, etc
Anyone got a guide on overclocking ram?
Reason: Bad word usage
Hi I was wondering if anyone worked on the lian li o11 dynamic and got costume cables. If so I was wondering what length cable did you guys get. I want to get costume cables for my gpu,cpu and 24pin connector
Go 3600 for the apu..
Since they use a part of the system ram as vram
Faster ram = faster gpu
In an apu system
Especially in ryzen since the cpu likes fast ram as well
chiplet design
No bro
Don't go 3600 lol
It's a 3400g
Just as mr1 said, imc sucky
still zen+
should be able to rn 3600mhz tbh
But there's no point
I mean if it runs theres gonna be a pretty decent perf increase over 3200
It's not the same imc as Matisse
3400g is pretty much just a tweaked 2400g tbh
Yeah, it's not a real 3000 series
yeah there isntreally a desktop apu you can buy that uses zen2 iirc
NOt yet
yeah
Pretty sure the 4000 series APU's are but those are grey market
the new apus are OEM only
UNless you wanna buy one direct from china on Ebay
sus
I wish amd would sell their new apus lol
Like to the general public
I mean, who wouldn't want a 5700g
especially rn
Ye
Anyone know why MOBO manufacturers and case manufacturers never coordinate on where to put their USB 3 headers? Cuz thats the only thing that's ugly about my build besides the lack of GPU and it ticks me off
Oh and maybe the wires up top but i have electricians tape ;p
"they want to be different"
Because standardization is for squares. We only deal with rectangles.
Nah they want me to break the connector lmao
90 degree header adapters are easy to find
Guys if I assemble my pc without a gpu and leave it for a month or more sitting on my desk to find a gpu, is it bad? Like does it damage some components or no

just get a gt 710
just dont plug it into the wall yeah?
No harm at all with no gpu in the machine
the only harm is that if something is defective you won't know
and it'll be out of return period
just get a cheap old gpu to test it
gt 710 for $20
if it doesn't have integrated
Hey guys. Just built a new rig. No sound coming from my monitor which is an Asus VG248. Any help would be welcomed. I have HDMI inserted
Do you have drivers installed?
Pretty sure I so bud. Went on Asus website and did all I could
have you selected the monitor as audio output?
Have you installed your video drivers too?
Yes ofc
Yes that, still hard to find a bnew š¤£
š
yes r7 5800x be arrivin next week
Gotta find some some sort of gpu to test it š„²
Wait it doesnt harm the system if its low end card @lyric thistle
I mean how could it?
Its not a psu
To explode
Why would you want to bake your gpu by putting something else on it?
^
I think they want custom backplates xD
not rrally common
Makes more sense, sounded like they wanted to put a mini rug on their gpu or something lol
You want custom plates like?
So a backplate then
yes
ok
Im not familiar with custom backplates myself, but I'm sure someone else here or Google search could get you started
thanks
Get ek waterblock lol
ek is a great option
Ek do waterblocks tho not normal backplates XD
Looks dope tho
I recently just made a 2k rig with 710... Mine is running fine so far. Graphics seem fine for what I use it for. But for sure will upgrade with GPUs are reasonably priced.
Yes
just no gamin
specs?
I'll make a list bud.
aight
did u use vga or dp @little osprey
if you have 4 sticks of ram, which dim slots would you place them in?
Eww vga š¤®
All of them
it it fine to plug it in dp?
Yeah dp is
vga is fine it's just archaic
how much wattage does a 3400g need
I just put together a new gaming computer and have no idea how to install the operating system? I'm new to this and really don't have a clue. Is there a video someone can suggest?
Need a USB stick and the Media Creation Tool, then boot from USB. Download this and run it. https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10
Dw about it it's a 65w tdp cpu or something
I was having trouble with the USB stick. I will try that. Thank you
Gotta use the Media Creation Tool to make it bootable
is this a good build? the people in general recommended me the overkill psu https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZzzR3Z
Got it. Thanks again




