#building-and-recc-chat

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rustic flare
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what speed should my cpu fan be

subtle sentinel
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why was my webcam on

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there were no apps using it and the light indicating that my webcam was being used was on

urban trellis
rustic flare
jagged ember
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Just balance thermal performance with noise levels

white patio
obsidian wigeon
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You can instead swap for ek aio tbh

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Unless you want white I guess

uncut pelican
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N e w e g g

worn wave
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Change HDD to WD Blue thats CMR

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Those Barracudas are not the most reliable

stoic island
granite field
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hi chat

stoic island
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hi

granite field
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i actually had a hdd in my old laptop

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because i could not get a 1tb ssd

stoic island
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I mean

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Toshiba x300 time

granite field
white patio
stoic island
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@white patio I have issue with the specific models, not the storage size

stoic island
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lmao link for the drive doens't work

granite field
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wd blue nvme for 109 and toshiba 8 8 tb drive for 200

stoic island
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sn550 gud

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did p31 sale end

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aw that's sad

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ACTUALLY NO P31 SALE STILL ON

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:P

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I would prob get x300 for speeeed

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but ye

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also, do you need a monitor, mouse, keyboard, headphones?

granite field
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ik the psu is a bit overpriced

white patio
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i already have peripherals

granite field
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but 850 watt will give you an upgrade path and overclocking

stoic island
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uh

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h150i kinda stoopid compared to galahad imo

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unify is out of stock

white patio
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why lol

stoic island
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h150i is more expensive, worse looking, worse performing, what does it even have

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:P

white patio
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uh nothing lol

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should i buy the meg unify or the gigabyte b550 aorus pro ac

stoic island
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Unify is out of stock so

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uh

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yea

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850w RMx is just way overpriced imo

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at that price just go revo df 850w and get custom cables later xD

white patio
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what about 750w?

stoic island
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bit overpriced but usable

white patio
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ok that's not future proof enough

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what psu do you have

stoic island
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lmao

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not that it's good, g3 750w

white patio
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bruh toshiba is expensive

stoic island
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wdym

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it's 20$ :p

white patio
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wth

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in newegg its says

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219

stoic island
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ye

white patio
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seagate is 189

stoic island
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20 30 close nuff

white patio
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but what makes toshiba better?

stoic island
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cmr

white patio
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what>?

stoic island
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also, pretty sure faster speed

white patio
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well my ssd is for windows etc, and the hdd is for games right?

stoic island
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Yes

uneven oar
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i mean now with the prices of ssds going down would help speed up games

muted patio
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Eh, with Chia coming to market, I don't think drive prices will be going down much longer

stoic island
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lol

muted patio
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Did you see the DerBauer video on it?

stoic island
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but cmr is faster writes than smr, better reliability

muted patio
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50,000 GB written in one week!!

stoic island
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I heard from some people in borg and overclocking discord

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something about a sn550 dying in a month

muted patio
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Yes

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and CPU banging of 60-65% use all the time

stoic island
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ya

muted patio
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Gross

uneven oar
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better stock up before the 50 port sata boards debut here

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first etherium, now chia..what's next. catcoin?

stoic island
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we already have doge so

uneven oar
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hold

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lol

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huh..bitcoin plunges after Elon Musk says he will no longer accept it for Teslas

muted patio
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Ya

little osprey
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PCPartPicker Part List: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/WFs8Bc

CPU: Intel Core i5-10400F 2.9 GHz 6-Core Processor ($204.98
Motherboard: Asus PRIME H410M-A/CSM Micro ATX LGA1200 Motherboard ($108.73
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-2400 CL16 Memory $81.99
Storage: Crucial P1 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($75.64
Case: Cooler Master MasterBox NR400 (w/ODD) MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($69.98)
Power Supply: EVGA BR 600 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($79.98 )
Total: $539.31 CAD

stoic island
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grab b560m hdv

little osprey
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is this good enough for the price of it??

stoic island
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backordered from wegg for 80$

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I'd grab mx330-g air for 52$ for case

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wait

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cad

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nvm

little osprey
stoic island
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ye, but cad pricing is a bit weird

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usd pricing it's good

little osprey
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fr

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sometimes i wish i was from the states cause the pricing but thats really it

uneven oar
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for now lol

marble knot
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Soooo. I'm in trouble. Send help!

stoic island
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yes?

uneven oar
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1 cad = .83 usd. yuck

stoic island
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I think it's the other way around..?

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1 cad = .83 usd pretty sure

little osprey
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he has it correect to

marble knot
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So. I installed my new processor. Seemed to be working fine. Played a full game of taekov. And then my whole computer froze. I did a forced restart and now my keyboard and mouse aren't picking up when I go to unlock my computer. If I can even get that far.

uneven oar
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thank you i misstyped

stoic island
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hm

uneven oar
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latest gpu drivers? any overclocks on it?

marble knot
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When I boot up I see preparing automatic repair, then the screen now goes black and the loading dots start to pop up and then it freezes. Updated my gpu drivers the other day. No overclocks

muted patio
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What board and what cpu?

marble knot
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i9-9900k and

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Gimme a sec on the moba

uneven oar
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pc posts, something got frazzled with windows

muted patio
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Windows might be frazzled for a good reason tho

marble knot
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MSI Z370-A PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard

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One of the techie people on here told me that that combination would work

muted patio
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How long have you had that motherboard?

marble knot
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Quite a while

muted patio
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Before 2020?

marble knot
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Definitely

muted patio
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Before 2018?

marble knot
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Maybe

muted patio
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The reason I ask is that there are BIOS updates for 9th gen CPU's

marble knot
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I think it may have been 2018

muted patio
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Ah, might wanna update BIOS, that may be why it froze. Also, what CPU cooler do you have for it

marble knot
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Cooler Master MasterLiquid ML240L RGB 66.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler

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How do I update bios? I can't get into bios because my keyboard isn't picking up

muted patio
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Ok, that should be enough. Pump speed should be 100% and fans set to a cooling curve

muted patio
marble knot
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In the back

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Should I try the front? It's getting power because I have a light plugged into my keyboard thay works

muted patio
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Lovely, let me skim the manual

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And yes, try the front

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if you know you have power there

uneven oar
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has the pc been turned completely off since this happened? power supply off too?

wraith herald
marble knot
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Yes I've flipped the switch

muted patio
wraith herald
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Yeah thanks that makes sense

muted patio
muted patio
marble knot
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So I got to an option thay said restart or advanced options. My mouse worked then. I hit restart. Took me to my lock screen. But mouse mo longer works. Same with keyboard.

boreal oyster
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Hey i'm looking to build my first mining rig. I have 3060's , any recommendations on a motherboard and cpu?

muted patio
marble knot
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Nada. Tried spamming it as it booted.

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Same with f11

muted patio
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Ok, might need to do a CMOS reset. unplug PC from wall and remove the button cell battery on the motherboard. Might be under your GPU. Leave it out for a couple minutes, put it back in and restart

muted patio
marble knot
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I have no idea what that is

muted patio
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On your motherboard there's a silver disk the size of a quarter

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that's a battery

marble knot
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Ahh

muted patio
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It's probably hidden by your graphics card

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Unplug PC from wall and remove the battery. It will reset the BIOS

marble knot
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It is hidden slightly by gpu. Easiest way to get it out?

muted patio
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Remove gpu :/ Or if you can reach it, there's a vertical silver tab, push the tab away from the battery and it should pop out

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yeah so on the left hand side

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There's a metal tab

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Push it away from the battery and it should pop out

marble knot
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Is it safe to use a small knife to pry it out?

stoic island
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pull the lever

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don't pry it

marble knot
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Or tweezers

stoic island
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you can probably push on the lever

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and it just pops out

marble knot
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I was able to push the thing and it came up slightly but not enough to get it out all the way

muted patio
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Ah yes

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Tweezers are fine then or a small knife if it's loose

uneven oar
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g/l, heading out

marble knot
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Got it!

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Put it back in and plug back in?

muted patio
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Leave it out for a couple minutes now, then put it back and fire it back up to see if you can get to BIOS

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at least 2 minutes

marble knot
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Sounds good. And then download the file,put it on a thumb drive and then what?

muted patio
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Well, you download a zip folder

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Extract it

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Take out the bios file and put it on the thumbdrive

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reboot to BIOS

marble knot
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Also. Can you dm me the file. I'll have to log onto another computer.

muted patio
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Then go to the MFLASH tab and update

marble knot
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I see 2 files. One a text document and the other a 2D2 file

muted patio
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2d2 file should be it, something like 7b48v etc

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Ah, it's E7b48IMWS.2d2

marble knot
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That one is the text file

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Oh bet

muted patio
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Put that all by itself on the thumb drive

marble knot
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Should I format it?

muted patio
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Should be FAT32

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so might wanna check it

marble knot
muted patio
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not EXFAT, FAT32

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OHhhh

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that's a big drive

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do you have a smaller one XD

marble knot
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Lol. Yeah

muted patio
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K, use the smaller one then

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XD

marble knot
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OK bet. That option is there lol

muted patio
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good

marble knot
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OK plug everything back in?

muted patio
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yes

marble knot
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Entering flash mode

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Bios is updating

muted patio
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Ayyyy

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it worked

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Now, once it's done and you restart, gotta go back into BIOS and reset ram XMP speed and drive boot order

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Because you'll be on default settings

marble knot
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Got a step by step for me lmao.

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You're a godsend by the way!

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One might say, a legend lol

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So how do I reset the ram XMP speed and drive boot order

muted patio
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So XMP will be on the main screen when you first get to the BIOS

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At the top

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Just enable it

marble knot
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On

muted patio
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Good

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Boot drive priority is also there

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Your drive with windows should be first on the left

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It's under the CPU SPEED area

marble knot
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Yes

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Click that?

muted patio
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No need to click it

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Just be sure it's first

vapid verge
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I just wanna say I’ve been watching this whole thing go down and wow, vintage racer you’re incredible

muted patio
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Then just save and exit

marble knot
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Fingers crossed!!!!!!!!!!!!

muted patio
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❤️ you both

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Wanna know my secret?

vapid verge
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Perhaps

marble knot
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Restart?

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You're actually a computer?!?!

muted patio
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-_-

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No,

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I'm old

still roostBOT
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KingMundane#1834 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

marble knot
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Shorts

stoic island
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experience good

vapid verge
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Old and gold baby

marble knot
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So wat do noe

muted patio
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my first PC was a Pentium 100 XD

marble knot
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Now

muted patio
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Advanced options

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Startup repair

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see what it do

marble knot
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That's not an option

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Continue, use a device, turn off pc, troubleshoot

muted patio
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Troubleshoot

marble knot
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Reset, advanced options

muted patio
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advanced

marble knot
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Startup repair?

muted patio
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Ye

marble knot
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Here we go

muted patio
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Could just be a happy coincidence the drive borked also. Was there a Windows update or something before this?

marble knot
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Mwaw mwaw

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Yeah I updated windows yesterday.

muted patio
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I got mine today

marble knot
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That's me kissing you btw lmao. Itssssssss. Aliveeeeeeeee

muted patio
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Better not bork

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Sweet

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Now, do you have fan monitoring software in Windows?

marble knot
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I'm good to take out the flashdrice right? And no

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I do not

muted patio
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Yeah you can take the drive out

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Hmmm, do you know how fast your AIO pump speed is set in the BIOS?

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Or where it's plugged in?

marble knot
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Should I? And it a single clue lmao

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Download a fan monitoring software that is

muted patio
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Stand by

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reading

marble knot
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yay! I can type now! not on my phone

muted patio
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hehehehe

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I hate typing on my phone

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You said ML240 AIO yeah?

marble knot
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amen to that. although, I used to have this big touchscreen phone that fully slide sideways to reveal a full qwerty keyboard. one sec I'll check

muted patio
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Masterliquid ML240?

marble knot
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Cooler Master MasterLiquid ML240L RGB 66.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler

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so yeah

muted patio
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Ok, at the top of your motherboard there are 2 fan headers. One is CPU_FAN the other is PUMP_FAN1

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The pump itself should be connected to the PUMP_FAN1 header

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The fans should be on the CPU_FAN1 header

marble knot
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uhhhh lol

muted patio
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Pretty sure CPU_FAN is on the left of the ram

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and PUMP is on the right

marble knot
muted patio
marble knot
muted patio
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The top left and top right red circles

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Fans to the left, pump to the right

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The wires coming directly out of the pump in this picture go to PUMP, the one that hooks to the fans goes to CPU_FAN

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Need to be sure that hot CPU is cooled properly

marble knot
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I see a wire that goes from heatsync to the fan but not really anything else

muted patio
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Looks like it might be right? I can't tell where the wires go behind your case lol

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Is this a prebuilt?

marble knot
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no, but my friend who is hella into pc's helped me build it and I trust he knows what he did lol

muted patio
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Also, that 120mm radiator is a bit small for a 9900k.....

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taht's not a 240, it's a 120

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and will have a hard time keeping the 9900K cool

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It was probably fine with your old CPU

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Just keep an eye on CPU temps

marble knot
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which part is the radiator?

muted patio
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The part with the fan and the hoses going to it

marble knot
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is there a good program to monitor it?

muted patio
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Download something like HWINFO64

marble knot
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that's what I figured

muted patio
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And also something like Cinebench

marble knot
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so next thing for me to upgrade would be the cooler then?

muted patio
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See what temps it gets to with Cinebench running

white patio
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does the gigabyte b550 aorus pro ac need an bios update right of the start?

muted patio
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MIght, I'd plan on doing it

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Even if it has an older BIOS it's worth an upgrade

white patio
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and so how do you do that lol?

muted patio
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I assume you mean for 5000 series lol

marble knot
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also, this is a 240l

muted patio
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No, that's a 120mm

white patio
muted patio
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There's only one fan

marble knot
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I have th receipt for it

white patio
marble knot
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so did I get jipped??

muted patio
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That's not what's installed in your PC so yes

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See how it has 2 fans?

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And yours only has one?

muted patio
marble knot
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my jaw. is. dropped

muted patio
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Sorry

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:/

marble knot
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I ordered this on Dec 14, 2018

white patio
muted patio
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I deleted pic because partial Visa number

marble knot
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thank you!

muted patio
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YW

muted patio
white patio
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so you basically get a usb plug it in, etc?

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but first you have to download the bios on the flash drive

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also what happens if you mess up this process?

stoic island
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as long as you don't do smth like unplug the power during the process, you can probably just start over

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it's generally just plug USB stick in, push button, and wait

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not much to screw up

white patio
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lol

jagged ember
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patience is important for a bios update

white patio
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why patience

muted patio
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because it takes time

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and it's slow

jagged ember
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cause usually people get impatient

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because of that

white patio
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how long does it usually take?

muted patio
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1-5 minutes

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XD

stoic island
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depends

white patio
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that short lOl

stoic island
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5-10 min is pretty common

jagged ember
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my last one took around 5

stoic island
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in very rare cases, like 20 min

white patio
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did intel release a new cpu?

muted patio
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Earlier this year yes

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11th gen

white patio
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okay

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cheerio

muted patio
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👍

marble knot
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@muted patio I have a corsair. cooler not a cooler master

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i just figured it out I think. I orderd the one I told you, but it didn't fit and i had to go to best buy and get a different one

muted patio
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Ahhhhhh WHEW

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I'm surprised it didn't fit though, looks like there's enough room for a 240mm up there. Regardless, I'd recommend an upgrade of some sort for that CPU

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120mm AIO won't cut it

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What case is it?

marble knot
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Phanteks Enthoo Pro M SE Case

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CORSAIR - Hydro Series 120mm Radiator CPU Liquid Cooling System - Black
Model:H60SKU:5845215

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this is the cooler

muted patio
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Huh

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according to the manual the 240mm should have fit

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can even do a 360mm up top

marble knot
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so what cooler would you reccomend?

muted patio
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RGB or no?

marble knot
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depending on the price difference, hell yeah

muted patio
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XD

marble knot
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oh, i didn't get yelled at by the bot this time

muted patio
marble knot
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f

muted patio
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I know

ruby sentinel
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Best cheap non RGB build?

ancient wraith
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what is this

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i cant use one drive

bold basin
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organizing and plugging in cables is such a pain in the ass

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ima bring my pc to a computer shop for them to do it

lyric thistle
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I mean I guess

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It's really easy

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But if you don't want to take the 20 minutes

bold basin
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20 minutes?!??

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Im two hours in

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And still not finished with the wires

lyric thistle
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Probably took me half an hour to an hour after removing the old psu in an old HP Pavilion case, surprisingly had some management space

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Temporary frustration

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You'll get thru it

clear moat
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monitor flickering when switching to chrome

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any suggestions?

frank stirrup
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Not very abnormal

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Fullscreen program to another program flickers sometimes

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its fine

clear moat
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ah

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aight

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weird tho didnt happen with old gpu

earnest olive
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try setting your games to borderless windowed instead of full screen

bitter mason
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Any recommendations on custom loop pump that isn't like crazy expensive

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@earnest olive I think I finally got that OC stable. thanks again for your help.

earnest olive
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oh nice what did you end up getting?

bitter mason
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1.27-1.36V stayed at ratio 50.

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Anything higher the voltage had to be way up there

earnest olive
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not bad at all

bitter mason
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I had to go -2 on ADV tho

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otherwise I kept getting temps 90+

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& instability

earnest olive
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so it's 1.36V but vdroops to 1.27V?

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you could probably push 5 if you went higher LLC

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with no avx offset

bitter mason
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I set it at 1.27. 1.36 is the max it shows on HWiNFO

earnest olive
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huh...that's very strange

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with LLC 4?

bitter mason
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give me a second to switch computers & I'll show you

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ya Mode 4 I'm pretty sure

earnest olive
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are you looking at VID or Vcore

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VID is different from your actual voltage

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I'm gonna head to bed

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good night

bitter mason
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VID

earnest olive
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VID is what CPU is requesting, not what it's getting

bitter mason
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oh true. I've been looking at the wrong thing then

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maybe I can go higher

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my bad I won't keep you tho

earnest olive
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look around for something called Vcore

bitter mason
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ya cuz V core shows max voltage at 1.28

earnest olive
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sounds right

bitter mason
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under 1.35 is alrigth?

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alright

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my bad last question I promise

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like for everyday OC 1.35 or less is okay?

robust lake
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@bitter mason what temps and which cpu

bitter mason
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10900K

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Temps max at 86

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12 hour OCCT

robust lake
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In stress test?

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Oh

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Yeah that should be fine

bitter mason
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I haven't done Prime 95 on it

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That thing is ridiculous

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I haven't tried it on these settings but before it throttled like 6 cores lol

robust lake
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Yeah i dont like it either maybe just run it with avx off

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You are never going to stress your cpu like prime 95 does

bitter mason
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is 1.35 like the ceiling for a daily OC you think?

robust lake
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Yeah but i would try and go under it till it is not stable for you

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1.3 should get you 5ghz on any 10900k chip

bitter mason
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what about 5.1? lol

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I thought I'd try 1.285 for 5.1 with the -2 AVX offset in place

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drop the LLC to 4

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I just realized my 5gHz was at 2

robust lake
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Avx offset is meh

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Games use avx

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So you wont gain preformance on games

bitter mason
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hmm okay so goal is 0 AVX offset then

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I'm better off w/ a 5.0gHz OC with 0 AVX offset than a 5.1 w/ -2

robust lake
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Yeah 0 avx 5 ghz should be a safe & easy oc for 10900k just test it and try to low the voltage underload until its not stable

bitter mason
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I see

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You think a >1.35v OC at 5.1 w/ 0 AVX offset is possible?

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or is that a fool's errand?

robust lake
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It depends on the chip

bitter mason
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wow I can't get anywhere near stable with the voltage that low

robust lake
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Thats the bios vcore tho

bitter mason
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shoot maybe I should try it & tick up voltage from tehre

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what's the 3d column? ring ratio?

robust lake
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I dont know what is the voltage underload they dont say it there you can check other people results and maybe try a starting point

robust lake
bitter mason
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oh okay

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hmm maybe 5.1 is possible then

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I was looking at the wrong voltage

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thinking that maximum was the highest voltage

robust lake
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Check the v vout while on load on hwinfo

bitter mason
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hmm now it keeps showing effective clocks at stupid low numbers

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I think we determiend that I don't have that option actually'

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only v core

robust lake
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Oh ok some mb dont have it

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V core is fine too

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What is it under load

bitter mason
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it wouldn't go higher than like 3.something on two cores

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voltage too low or did I finally break it?

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lol

robust lake
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If its stable for you then its good

bitter mason
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it throws errors on OCCT

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I bumped it to 51 to try it

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I saved the profile that was working for 50 tho

robust lake
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Have you messed with the ring

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You should first oc the core clock

#

Ring is last

bitter mason
#

I bumped the ring to 48 to stay -3 on the 51

#

should I change that to auto?

robust lake
#

Change it to stock and after you are done with core oc you can try and make it higher

bitter mason
robust lake
#

Ring oc can make those errors you had

bitter mason
#

okay I'm gonna load optimized defaults

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where should I start the LLC?

#

& the voltage

robust lake
#

Set the llc to be 1 or 2 levels less then flat

#

And what did you have your last stable voltage on

bitter mason
#

1.270

robust lake
#

Use that and theb try and make it lower till it is stable

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1.27 on what llc

bitter mason
#

mode 2

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which is like flat

robust lake
#

Ok so try to set it to 1.3 and llc to 2 levels under flat

bitter mason
#

okay

robust lake
#

And check your stabilty temps and voltage under load

#

Make sure ring is stock

bitter mason
#

ring is auto & so is AVX

robust lake
#

Set avx to 0 , auto is set to 0 too i think but not sure

bitter mason
#

ok

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okay I finally did all the settings

#

try to avoid OC with bitlocker. it makes me enter 48 digits everytime I change a setting & restart

robust lake
#

Lol

bitter mason
#

damn still showing really strange numbers on effective core clock...

robust lake
#

What is it showing

bitter mason
#

maybe because I'm looking at System Agent clock?

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like 450 mHz on Core 1 T0 effective clock

robust lake
#

And maybe run cinebench r23 scores before and after oc to see if it was effective

#

I dont realy know about effective core clock

#

Someone can help

bitter mason
#

nbm

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nvm

frank stirrup
#

Cinebench is crappy for stability testing

robust lake
#

And?

bitter mason
#

I had collapsed Core Clocks

frank stirrup
#

Use prime95 for cpu

robust lake
#

I said for testing preformance

frank stirrup
#

OCCT isnt the best either

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prime95>>>>any other stress test

bitter mason
#

ya but prime95 is like using explosives

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lol

frank stirrup
#

Its a stress test that actually stresses the cpu

robust lake
#

More then you will ever use the cpu

frank stirrup
#

Thats what makes prime95 stable truly stable

bitter mason
#

hmm error on virtual memory load

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L0 cache errors are back

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heck

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To fix L0 cache load error, is it better to add voltage or reduce LLC?

robust lake
#

I dont think it matters that much maybe try 1 level higher llc

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If you still have errors increase the voltage

bitter mason
#

that picture you sent said 3C & 6C. Does that mean the OC was on all cores?

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8 minutes into OCCT & I've only thrown one L0 Cache error & no others

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wait jk just hit 2

robust lake
#

Oc on all cores but 6 cores are+100mhz and 3 are +200

bitter mason
#

ah okay

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I'm gonna up LLC & start over

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temps are surprisingly good

granite field
#

.

#

.

#

.

#

.

fading acorn
#

does a 3700x bottle neck a 3070?

fossil cedar
#

Don't worry about bottlenecks is a stupid buzz word

fading acorn
#

i always have like 80% on my cpu or even higher when playing games and most of the time my gpu is like 30%

fossil cedar
#

Yes and no, depends on the game, res, detail quality

fossil cedar
#

Some are more cpu intensive than others

fading acorn
#

rust, bo3, apex, siege

fossil cedar
#

You're getting 80% cpu and 30% gpu in all those games?

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But no it wouldn't bottleneck

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Rust, and rainbow are both kinda cpu intensive

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But bo3 and apex seem to be more gpu intensive

fading acorn
#

idk about all of them or specifics but i play 1440p everything

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and aim for 170 fps

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but i do only have a 650 watt ps

fossil cedar
#

650w is fine

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What's your ram config like?

frank stirrup
#

650 is fine but no real OC headroom

fossil cedar
#

Well 3070 recommended is 650w so should be fine yeah

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And i ran mine on 600w for a while didn't have an issue

frank stirrup
#

Im the kinda guy to oc everything to get max perf tho

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So yeah i would get me a 700W unit

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And OC the cpu gpu and ram

fossil cedar
#

Ohh same lol but they already have so it's fine

fossil cedar
eager flower
#

What

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Why would you recommend power supplies

#

He is completely fine

#

Bottle necks with newer components is irrelevant, youre fine

#

3000 series is weird with usage mine is like that too and I FET high enough frames in all those games ignore usage

fossil cedar
#

I've a feeling they're running slow ram or single channel if getting bad frames

empty chasm
#

same sometimes I get like 1000 or 200 frames on MC

little osprey
eager flower
#

If you’re running 4k Or 1440p you’ll be fine

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Even 1080 won’t matter

little osprey
#

not with 3200 ram

#

4k it won't matter

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1440 will be like 5% and 1080 is gonna be significant

eager flower
#

Who runs 1080 with a 4090

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3090

little osprey
#

issa joke

wicked frigate
#

Guys is 63 airflow good

#

For a lian li o11 case with 9 fans

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Will it do the job

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With 2200rpm or 2000

#

I forget

frank stirrup
wicked frigate
#

63 airflow

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For fans

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CFN

#

CFM

frank stirrup
#

Depends on how you have the fans arranged

wicked frigate
#

Umm 6 intake 3 ex

frank stirrup
#

Ok but where lmao

wicked frigate
#

Ohh

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3 ex top

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3 intake bottom

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And 3 intake on the side

frank stirrup
#

side?

wicked frigate
#

On the lian li 011

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Not the front

#

But what is it called

frank stirrup
wicked frigate
#

Dynamic

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Do you know what I am talking about

frank stirrup
#

its good enough

#

too much intake and not enough outtake for optimal perf

#

but whatever

wicked frigate
#

Than what would I recommend

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The best air flow design

#

How many in and ex

wicked frigate
frank stirrup
#

Its fine as is

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just not optimal

wicked frigate
frank stirrup
#

wont make too much of a difference

wicked frigate
#

Will it keep it cool

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Or do I need higher cfm

#

Also is 2000-2200 RPM good and what does that do

frank stirrup
#

Just leave it as it is tbh

wicked frigate
#

I don’t install it

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So I have a chance to think it ouTb

frank stirrup
#

rpm is Revolution Per Minute

wicked frigate
#

So what does that do

frank stirrup
#

what does revolutions mean?

wicked frigate
#

Like roaraion?

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Rotation

frank stirrup
#

and what does per minute mean?

wicked frigate
#

Spin than many rotation In a min right???

frank stirrup
#

that wasnt tough now was it?

wicked frigate
#

No

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I mean so how is that connect with cfm

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Is it???

frank stirrup
#

google what cfm means

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should make sense

wicked frigate
#

K

#

Ok

muted patio
hallow glen
#

im gonna see what they are gonna sell just the pc for

#

the case though Cringe

#

actually case isn't that bad

hallow glen
#

yeah i was gonna see what he said just for the pc

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i thought it was gonna be like 1800

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but it was 2200

#

so no

fossil cedar
#

Aweful

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You can get 10700 3070 atx abs builds for 1800

hallow glen
#

oh ok

hallow glen
#

it looks really good

muted patio
#

Only takes crypto

#

Nah

hallow glen
#

ah

frank stirrup
#

sus

hallow glen
#

also its in nyc

fossil cedar
#

Just crypto is hella sketch

hallow glen
#

yeah

fossil cedar
#

Also threadripper for gaming meh

muted patio
#

3990x for $2k

#

That's a scam

#

That's a $5K CPU LOL

fossil cedar
obsidian wigeon
#

crypto only

#

hella nah, scam confirmed

muted patio
#

Crypto only, $10K worth of hardware for $2K

#

XD

obsidian wigeon
#

lmao

ancient wraith
#

npmokmo;m

fossil cedar
#

Same

ancient wraith
#

fr

#

whats the best performance for price aio

round stream
#

ek

muted patio
#

Arctic Freezer II or EK

ancient wraith
#

k thnx

odd cosmos
#

anyone knows whats the best the best AIO? (building for a friend so price is not that important)

muted patio
#

See above

ancient wraith
#

ek

muted patio
#

Freezer II is better for AMD tho due to the offset CPU mount

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But CPU block fan makes ugly

odd cosmos
#

can someone send a 1500usd build lol (with gpu at msrp)

odd abyss
#

ik this won’t help too much but maybe it will.

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this is my build with no gpu

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but it’s far from 1500

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if u get a gpu it might be near 1500 thokekw

odd cosmos
#

LOL

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its for a friend so yk

hallow glen
odd abyss
#

that’s my BUILD not what i’m BUYING

stoic island
#

freezer ii neat

odd cosmos
#

you wot be using that anyhow will you

#

cause the stock intel fan is pretty horrible

#

mine is in a cabinet somewhere lol

rich helm
#

Throw stock fan away, buy se 224 xt

#

Just as good

woven summit
#

How much could a r3 2200g 1050 2gb 16gb ddr4 pc go for?

odd cosmos
#

how is the psu, mob, are they upgrade able?

#

or is it one of those old dell pcs

woven summit
#

they are upgradable

#

its an aero cool cylon rgb case

odd cosmos
#

mhm

woven summit
#

mobo is a b350

#

psu is a 550w

#

not bronze, gold or anything

odd cosmos
#

sounds fine, how much is it going for

woven summit
#

not sure

#

just got this from a relative

#

trying to sell it

odd cosmos
#

just know that the r3 2200g is not very good and 2g of vram is meh

#

mhm

woven summit
#

2200g is alright with a gpu

#

but the fact that the gpu is 2g of vram

#

yeah

odd cosmos
#

yea but why would you need a g series chip when you have a gpu

#

the cpu in that is not exactly good

woven summit
#

good question

#

I actually don't know

potent portal
#

Processor is near worthless, memory is probably $40 if it's a good kit, 1050 is going for around $125 on ebay, I'd list it at $250 or $300 locally and expect to sell for less

woven summit
#

damn wtf

#

I was trying to sell it at 600 and expecting less

odd cosmos
#

thats a bit conservative now Fal

#

i think 500 cad

#

i would buy for 500 cad that is

#

ik the gpu is kinda bad but its a gpu nevertheless

woven summit
#

Ill try to do 600 negotiable

odd cosmos
#

600 is not possible

woven summit
#

There's tons of desperate people

#

trying to get a little more than 500

odd cosmos
#

that system is worth no where near 600 usd lol

woven summit
#

damn

odd cosmos
#

like he said, the processor is basically worthless

#

the gpu is a gpu so you decide on that

potent portal
#

B350 is dead, the power supply is probably $25, the case in good condition can be about $50 maybe

woven summit
#

if this was a 1050ti ryzen 3 3100 i could do 700 cad

potent portal
#

Easy yeah

odd cosmos
#

its basically just the gpu + ram + case + psu

frank stirrup
#

Itll go for under 500

potent portal
#

Yeah everything else is just... There

frank stirrup
#

I would sell for 350 ish

odd cosmos
#

but if the entire thing is working fine, and everything inside is good quality, id definitely consider around 500cad

#

its a good temp pc for someone just getting into it or need it asap

woven summit
#

lol I tried selling the system with no gpu about a month ago and someone legit offered 450

potent portal
#

Oh did we cover storage?

woven summit
#

But I wanted to sell with gpu

odd cosmos
#

storage prob not worth anything if its a old hdd

odd cosmos
potent portal
#

Is it a HDD though?

woven summit
#

256gb hdd + 1tb hdd

#

ssd*

odd cosmos
#

lol yea

#

oh

woven summit
#

256gb ssd + 1tbhdd

odd cosmos
#

thats not bad

#

m.2? or sata lol i prob shouldnt even be asking

potent portal
#

Ok phew

woven summit
#

m2

odd cosmos
#

wa

potent portal
#

Probably another $25 for storage then, possibly more depending on how much life the ssd has

frank stirrup
#

did b350 have m.2?

woven summit
#

yes

odd cosmos
#

but all things considered, that system doesnt have the best parts if someone really wanted to get a budget pc, they could go with something else

#

selling for 500 cad sounds reasonable but just dont expect anything too high

frank stirrup
#

m.2 sata or nvme tho?

covert vapor
frank stirrup
potent portal
#

Doesn't matter in current market tbh

odd cosmos
#

i mean, go list it on Kijiji and see if you get some offers

odd cosmos
potent portal
#

Sata is barely cheaper right now

covert vapor
#

I think it was both sata and gen2 pcie support

covert vapor
rich helm
covert vapor
#

Canadia is a wonderful place. Except the pc parts usually cost more. And the people in Quebec can be a bit arrogant.

white patio
#

canadia not a place lol

covert vapor
#

Canadia best place kekw

white patio
#

bruh

#

do you live in canada?

muted patio
#

Canadia Putine is the absolute best

white patio
#

I live in canada

covert vapor
#

I was born and raised 15 minutes from the border. Lived there for 18 years and visited all the time

rose jackal
#

ou la la

white patio
covert vapor
#

Yeah, the French Canadians would flood the shopping centers from time to time to get certain things cheaper in the US

#

They generally were poor drivers

ornate flower
covert vapor
#

And they sometimes would camp out in the Walmart parking lot days at a time

#

They had to put up no camping signs eventually kekw

odd cosmos
ornate flower
verbal quarry
#

would 1440p be better than 1080p on a 3070/5600x build?

muted patio
#

yes

verbal quarry
#

whats the difference?

muted patio
#

Resolution

#

Crisper image

verbal quarry
#

so 1440p?

muted patio
#

Yes, 1440p 144-165hz

#

That's what I run is 1440p 165hz with my 3070

verbal quarry
#

oh ok

#

i was looking at a 1080 240hz

muted patio
#

That's going to be CPU reliant, not GPU

#

The higher the FPS at 1080p the more it leans on your CPU

verbal quarry
#

oh ok

muted patio
#

~200 FPS is around when your CPU starts to affect FPS at 1080p

verbal quarry
#

interesting

muted patio
#

While 1440p it's almost all GPU

verbal quarry
#

would that affect performance in graphic intensive games?

fossil cedar
#

Gpu

#

Vram

muted patio
#

240hz 1080p

#

will be CPU reliant

#

Not so much GPU

fossil cedar
#

Ohh nvm i misread lol

muted patio
#

Ye

fossil cedar
#

I thought they said what would

muted patio
#

I mean, I think they're wanting to do Esports title stuff

#

at high refresh

#

So I'd shoot for a 3060TI and a good CPU

fossil cedar
#

I'd pocket the money and just get 144hz

verbal quarry
#

nah im just tired on running games on a potato

muted patio
#

Oh

fossil cedar
#

Then 1440p 144hz

muted patio
#

well then go 1440p 165hz

#

I get 120+ FPS

#

on Ultra

verbal quarry
#

any monitors in mind?

muted patio
#

M27Q

#

27" 1440p

verbal quarry
#

i also plan on getting a secondary monitor

muted patio
#

1080p woul dbe fine for that for like Discord and stuff

verbal quarry
#

does 1080p 75hz work?

muted patio
#

Ye

verbal quarry
#

cool

#

now to find matching brands lol

muted patio
#

I run a 1080 and 1440p monitor

verbal quarry
#

whats the quality on pixio monitors?

muted patio
#

not great, neither is Westinghouse

verbal quarry
#

ok thanks for the heads up on Westinghouse

muted patio
#

Ye

#

This is gonna sound nuts but.....check your local Goodwill

#

All kinds of monitors there for cheap

#

might find a good one, not even joking

#

Worth looking for a $40 monitor

verbal quarry
#

ive already checked my local goodwills

#

my county is to poor to put monitors in goodwill

muted patio
#

Ah, understood

verbal quarry
#

its more of just clothes and destroyed furniture

#

and car parts oddly enough

muted patio
#

Car parts huh

#

Interesting

verbal quarry
#

yea its really weird

#

its the only goodwill ive seen with car parts

#

sorry for the long link but this seems good

#

it is renewed tho

muted patio
#

I mean it's just for Discord and stuff yeah?

verbal quarry
#

yea

#

and it matches to the monitor i plan on getting

muted patio
#

Nice

verbal quarry
#

if you wanna see that one too

muted patio
#

I'd check Rtings about it

#

Make sure it's what you want

#

MOnitors are mostly subjective as to what people want

verbal quarry
#

yea ill have to look more into it

#

this is the one i am planning on getting

muted patio
#

jYeah, looks lnice

verbal quarry
#

do you know any good monitor stands as well?

broken wharf
#

Any of you guys have a good $1000 pc build

frank stirrup
#

@fossil cedar

fossil cedar
frank stirrup
#

I dont need to copy paste ur ping

#

Haha gottem

fossil cedar
#

Lol

#

As in founders edition only lol

#

Romym

frank stirrup
signal jackal
glossy mason
#

I think it is a little too big

obsidian wigeon
#

The card seems to take 2 slot at least

#

Or 3 maybe

glossy mason
#

Alrighty and I have a question

obsidian wigeon
#

Ask away

glossy mason
#

Could we VC? I think it would be a whole lot easier for me

obsidian wigeon
#

Well, I can't atm

glossy mason
#

Aww unfortunate

#

And if I take two slots out, wouldn’t it make the card stick out the back?

obsidian wigeon
#

Mhmm, nah

#

It's made to fit

#

Don't worry about it going through

glossy mason
#

Alright

#

And it is bound to go through.

obsidian wigeon
#

Just make sure you align it right, I suppose

verbal quarry
#

what hard drive would be best for video and game storage?

#

they plan on doing games, video editing, and streaming

muted patio
#

How much storage do they need?

verbal quarry
#

say 4tb

stoic island
#

x300

#

toshiba

muted patio
#

With a 500 gb NVME boot drive or 256 GB NVME boot drive

verbal quarry
#

500gb

muted patio
#

If they already have one then yeah, the X300

verbal quarry
#

ok thank you

vital kestrel
#

So when I get into my desktop on my computer it blinks on and off. I shipped my graphics card to MSI and they gave me a new one for free. I’m still having this issue and now Ik it’s not my graphics card.

verbal quarry
#

cpu maybe?

obsidian wigeon
#

No

#

It's more psu, I suspect that

verbal quarry
#

power connecters?

obsidian wigeon
#

CPU very rarely dies

muted patio
#

Cable? Power?

obsidian wigeon
#

^

vital kestrel
#

I’ll send a video here soon, need to start it up, we thought it was my graphics card, but I just got a new one from MSI

muted patio
#

*HDMI or DP cable

#

and also power supply, what GPU and power supply

vital kestrel
#

It’s not the cables, i tried with both HDMI and a DP cable

#

What is GPU lol? @muted patio

#

Sorry I’m not like computer technician smart

muted patio
#

What GPU is it?

#

Graphics card, what's the brand and model

#

and what power supply, model and wattage

vital kestrel
#

GTX 1660

#

By MSI

muted patio
#

I'd try a different HDMI port, different HDMI cable, different monitor and reinstall drivers

vital kestrel
#

I can’t even get to my drivers, it’s not the cables, I’ve tried I think 4 now for HDMI but I only have one DP

muted patio
#

Drivers as in software

stoic island
#

reset cmos might be time

muted patio
#

Grab GeForce Experience and make sure they're up to date

stoic island
#

@muted patio might be no boot..? unless I'm understanding it wrong

muted patio
#

Windows desktop

#

Screen flickers on and off

vital kestrel
stoic island
#

oh that's fun

vital kestrel
muted patio
#

OH interesting

#

That's not a GPU problem

vital kestrel
#

This is my issue and I can only get into task manager when I’m in the start up for my desktop pin. I can access it by shit+restar

muted patio
#

What are the rest of the system specs?

#

Processor, etc?

vital kestrel
muted patio
#

That seems to be a drive or possibly even a virus issue

#

Got a link to the build sheet for your PC?

#

Is it a prebuilt?

vital kestrel
#

Yup I was guessing a virus too, yes it is a prebuilt. It’s a Cyber Power “C”

muted patio
#

Do you have access to another PC or a laptop?

vital kestrel
#

Yes, I can go grab a laptop.

muted patio
#

Good. Here's what you need to do. Download Emsisoft and put it on a thumb drive. Restart the machine with the issue into Safe Mode. Hold Shift while you hit the Windows Icon and choose Resart. Then Troubleshoot, Advanced OPtions, Startup Settings, Restart. After it reboots again, choose Option 4 or F4. Once you're in Safe mode, insert thuumb drive and run Emsisoft to scan it.
https://www.emsisoft.com/en/home/emergencykit/download/

Emsisoft

Free download of Emsisoft Emergency Kit software to scan and clean malware infected PCs.

vital kestrel
#

Okay, thank you.

muted patio
#

Good luck! If it still does it in safe mode in might be another issue.

#

We can look at the hard drive or something then

vital kestrel
#

Okay, @muted patio am I downloading this on the laptop then?