#building-and-recc-chat

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desert gulch
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ok

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and you need mouse and keeb and monitor?

urban quest
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Yes

desert gulch
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ok

urban quest
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Oh and obvi a 30 dollar key so more like 1350

desert gulch
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ok

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heres a quick one i made

urban quest
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Oki

desert gulch
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keep in mind id go b560

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but b560 prices are near z490 prices rn so z490 better value at time of building this list

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and that mice and keeb is just random placeholder

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get whatever you want for it

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watch some reviews and stuff

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since everyone likes different switches and mice

urban quest
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I like mx blues and a mouse with good dpi

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Thats all I care abt lmao ill go look

tough kettle
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you can get a b560m/pro4 AC that stocks for 100 every now and then

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Z490 won't show any gains itself anyways in real life usage

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Also P300A isn't a very good case with stock configuration

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Adding 2 fans would show a lot of improvement

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especially when you are paying 55 for it, it isn't a good case

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P300A+extra fans will cost around this case itself

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BitFenix Mesh is generally overall better in terms of build quality and features

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not to mention it comes with 4 pre-installed fans

desert gulch
desert gulch
tough kettle
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no lmao

desert gulch
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and silicon power is best priced for that rn

tough kettle
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3000mhz cl15=3200mhz cl16 is very very similar in real life usage

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not to mention rev e overclocks better

desert gulch
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most ppl dont need to oc ram

tough kettle
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those gains would outweigh the ones with the 3200mhz kit at XMP

desert gulch
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just run it at rated lol

tough kettle
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?

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literally no fun

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and you get so much gains

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RAM overclocking is the easiest

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even a child could do it

desert gulch
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depends on the child

potent portal
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You're more likely to get a good die with faster rated memory... which means more potential overclocking if you want to argue that

tough kettle
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any child with basic common sense and told what to do

tough kettle
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not to mention ballistix in the range of 3000-3600 always grants you rev E/rev B

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below that you could also get rev e but with the chance of rev D

still roostBOT
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Decks#5664 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

tough kettle
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bruh

desert gulch
tough kettle
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Also Segotep GP-G isn't a very good unit for such a build

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no OTP

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and if we go by platform, very high set OPP

desert gulch
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gp is tier b

tough kettle
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lol so?

desert gulch
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ask any techie here

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theyll reccomend segotep gp

potent portal
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Tier B is plenty until you get up to around a 3080

tough kettle
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no lol

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I prefer my OTP

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OTP did not trigger

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Also enermax platimax based on similar platform

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with same supervisor IC

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also has no OTP

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and going by platform means high OPP

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which is never a good thing for ampere

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esepcially when you can spend 10-15 USD more and get a better unit

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like the CX550

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or SF3 550w

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and such

desert gulch
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segotep is fine lol

tough kettle
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literally showed u proof

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yet you keep saying the same thing parrots say

desert gulch
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cherrypick a case of something happening and you can make any point

tough kettle
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?????

desert gulch
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im sure a phanteks amp even has blown up

tough kettle
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OTP is not called cherry picking

tough kettle
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OTP is basically a must for ampere

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it shuts down the unit in case of over-heating

desert gulch
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im saying theres outliers that happens to everything

tough kettle
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past a certain point

potent portal
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But a 3060ti doesn't spike nearly as high

desert gulch
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yea

tough kettle
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which would shut down the unit had the OTP been set correctly

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also you can't completely disregard high set OPP

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missing a fundamental protection is not cherry picking...

plush epoch
tough kettle
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BQ isn't a good unit

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double forward which is more prone to coil whine and such

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not to mention there is no OCP on the 12v rail

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which would have been fine

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if the OPP was configured correctly

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but it's not

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so like it does not shut down and it leads to over-heating

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which does not help a unit of 40 degrees temperature rating

potent portal
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Stock cooler works fine for a 3600 unless you plan on doing some heavy overclocking
Swap the Barracuda for a Western Digital Blue

desert gulch
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id also go for a se 224 xt if you want a cooler

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or a vetroo v5

tough kettle
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also wait BQ has not OTP either kekwkekw

desert gulch
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also lpx binning is crap

tough kettle
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Not the same for higher end LPX, that is godly binned

desert gulch
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that isnt high end lpx

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its 3200 c16

plush epoch
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ok i understand the general idea of what you guys are saying. switch the power unit and hdd

tough kettle
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I realize....

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also the cooler

desert gulch
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id go for a 1tb pilot e

potent portal
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A good set of Ripjaws V wouldn't be more than a few dollars difference

desert gulch
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and get rid of hdd

potent portal
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Get rid of it? But what about cold storage? External?

plush epoch
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i only had the hdd there because i was like $50 for 2tb dont sound bad

desert gulch
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yeah but its slow

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and barracuda failure rates

potent portal
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That is actually bad for HDD

desert gulch
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yea

plush epoch
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my very original plan i was just gonna have the 1tb ssd

desert gulch
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id also go for a matx b550

potent portal
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WD Blue is same price class as the barracuda

desert gulch
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and better in terms of reliability

tough kettle
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lol those failure rates were so fuking old, I didn't realize people still consider it a thing

potent portal
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Old? They're updated every quarter

desert gulch
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lol

plush epoch
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what about gpus? i know most of the good ones out there are expensive and out of stock. thats why i dont have pne included yet

tough kettle
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I have 5 barracuda drives here and there, haven't had a problem in years

potent portal
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Then you're lucky

tough kettle
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really? kekw

desert gulch
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yea

tough kettle
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I'm not an HDD expert either so Cringe

potent portal
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There's somewhere between a 23% and 41% chance that one of 5 drives will fail

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Doing the math, and being generous

desert gulch
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big oof

desert gulch
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if you can find one near msrp

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i would go for an intel build tho tbh

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10400f and b560

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better for gaming

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and cheaper

plush epoch
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yeah theres a store near where i live and one of my friends got a 3060 for like $500

desert gulch
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trash

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way overpriced

potent portal
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That's not too bad, still overpriced but not the worst I've seen (unless it was a 3060ti in which case awesome)

plush epoch
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idk if it was a 3060ti or not but it seems like a good deal because arent there other places that sell them for far more overpriced

potent portal
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20% over msrp is normally bad, but considering used cards are selling at 125% over msrp on ebay...

ancient wraith
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Should I upgrade my pc

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I have a r5 3600 and a 2060

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Ok

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Uhh

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Those prices don't look too good ina wait

frank stirrup
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Your pc is very capable of AAA games

jagged ember
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I'd wait

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2060 good enough if non rtx and not all ultra settings

stoic island
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The urge to upgrade is always strong

jagged ember
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I always want a 5600x and 3080

stoic island
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I want 5900x+3080 lel

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Or 5900x+6900xt, pure raster is nice

jagged ember
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Hmm considerable

scenic turret
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I want 5950x and 3080ti

frank stirrup
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I want a zen 3 threadripper with a 6900xt

golden forge
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Is the two pc system for streaming, dead? Combine the 3090 with a 3990x thread ripper and you have a mega beast of a computer. However, as tech increases that allows for higher FPS and lower use of overall vram/cores, the “better” or more intensive encoding will be on systems like Slobs or OBS Studio. So I guess the question is, will encoding tech be stuck long enough for gpus and cpus to get even better, or will both techs be somewhat side by side? The next upgrade for “general”/“commercial” encoding would be h.265, right? I would think that once that type of encoding is used more often by regular people/ streamers, the less bang for your buck you will get. The GPU/cpu combo mentioned above, may go from using 30% GPU power and 10% cpu power for streamlabs, but five years from now, it may be 60%/20% power used. Does what I am saying make sense? So, if that is the case, then is the two pc stream setup really dead and will it ever be dead?

golden forge
jagged ember
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Uh

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Tldr pls

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But my answer is yes

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2 pc streaming is dead imo

earnest olive
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i seriously question what is the point of spending so much on a setup for h.265 over just using ampere nvenc

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people watch streams for content and entertainment not to make sure the video quality is the cleanest they've ever seen

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i can't see any problems with pascal nvenc

jagged ember
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Oh is that what they were saying?

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Yeah h265 is not practical right now

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Nothing I know supports h265

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And it's probably more important to make you stream actually accessible to people with lower bandwidth internet so some quality gotta go

cold sorrel
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Well... apparently I will be geting use out of that monitor I bought last year. Having to use it for my laptop now, since the screen died about an hour ago.

fossil cedar
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Oof

cold sorrel
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I think "buying hard drive plus external enclosure" to back up data just moved onto the priority list.

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Bonus, when I finally do build my new system I can just move the hard drive into it.

lyric thistle
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What laptop you got

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Screen replacement shouldn't be too hard to do

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Might be spensive if it's an actually decent screen tho

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Unless you got warranty or something thinkies

cold sorrel
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It's a 2016 MSI laptop.

jagged ember
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But you could also do the same thing with an actual external hard drive

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Back up important files onto it

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I think they're cheaper than internal hard drive + enclosure

lyric thistle
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I like the idea of being responsible for choosing the exact model of drive I want to use rather than let the drive manufacturer put in whatever they want

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That being said my data is on a little WD external anyway peepoSadSip

cold sorrel
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Also, think he completely ignored where I said I was going to eventually move said hard drive into my new system. And having the external enclosure means I have options for salvaging data for other people.

ripe relic
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This chat isn't that active at this time

cosmic parrot
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Active yay

jagged ember
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Im assuming you're not booting off your hard drive

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So the same thing would apply to the external drive

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But I see the point of getting to choose what drive you want

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Also data salvaging is fair enough

cold sorrel
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Yeah, no. I'd have an NVME drive for boot and a couple of games that benefit from fast loading. The hard drive is for documents and games that don't need to load super fast.

little osprey
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is the oculus quest 2 good?

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ive heard that it doesnt work on pc

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and it stutter sometimes

fossil cedar
little osprey
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oh ok thanks

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and for a rx 5600 xt and a ryzen 2700x will it be good to get 1440p 75 hz monitor or a 144hz 1080p monitor

fossil cedar
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What size?

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But imo 144hz 1080p if 24" or under

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Also depends, if you want to play esports titles semi competitively, then 144hz 1080 even if 27 inch

wicked frigate
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Should i get asus or msi mobo

obsidian wigeon
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Which models, exactly?

fossil cedar
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The chipset is more important

obsidian wigeon
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And quality of the board too :v

wicked frigate
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X570

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Also

tepid dove
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Hello everyone!! can someone help me out with a mobo setup?

fossil cedar
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Most ppl only need a b550

wicked frigate
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What’s the best crosshair mobo

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For am4

fossil cedar
wicked frigate
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Maybe

tepid dove
wicked frigate
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Do I know the best crosshair mobo

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I

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U

fossil cedar
fossil cedar
wicked frigate
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5900x or 5950c

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X

fossil cedar
wicked frigate
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Ok

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But do u know is msi is better than asus

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I want to know that’s first than I can have a look

muted patio
wicked frigate
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Ok godlike or megace or dark hero or formula

fossil cedar
wicked frigate
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Ok

tepid dove
fossil cedar
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Mb just try change boot order

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So usb is on top

muted patio
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Usually F8 in the BIOS will take you to the Boot options

tepid dove
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it should be showing me the brand or model of the usb if the mobo recognized it right??

muted patio
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Not necessarily, might just say UEFI USB

fossil cedar
tepid dove
fossil cedar
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1k for a mobo :o wtf

fossil cedar
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Have a look at i think it's crosshair xvii or something

wicked frigate
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ASUS ROG X570 Crosshair VIII Formula ATX motherboard with PCIe 4.0 on-board WiFi 6 (802.11ax) 5 Gbps LAN USB 3.2 SATA M.2 ASUS NODE and Aura Sync RGB lighting, AMD AM4 socket Ready for 2nd and 3rd Gen AMD Ryzen™ processors, Up to two M.2 drives USB 3.2 Gen2 and AMD StoreMI

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Another one

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And this one

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There

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@fossil cedar do u know????

fossil cedar
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Ngl i don't know the minute differences between them but I'm sure they're all great, if you want a more in-depth answer try ask #cpus-mobo-and-memory

wicked frigate
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Ok

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Wait

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Do you the best crosshair mobo

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Is it dark hero

fossil cedar
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No idea of the differences im sure one has slightly better rvm temps

wicked frigate
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Ok

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Thx

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Does dark hero have WiFi

jagged ember
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I feel like itd tell you on the website

fossil cedar
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Or in the name ^

sick crane
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i have saved up $3000 what is everything thing u need to build a pc for gaming,streaming and editing

balmy patio
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that's a big budget

sick arch
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Okay so should I go with intel or AMD? I’m making a gaming pc but not gaming as in like COD or things like that. A lot of indie titles, some higher end games, and mostly just games you wouldn’t play on a PlayStation or Xbox. I also may record / stream and I will be using it for school work occasionally.

muted patio
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Depends on budget TBH

sick crane
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@balmy patio I know

balmy patio
sick arch
muted patio
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Depends on budget TBH

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Set a budget, we'll help you

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Like, intel 10400 beats the 3600 but not 5600

sick arch
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Okay let’s say like 1500 or do

muted patio
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So if you have the budget for a 5600 get that instead

sick arch
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I was going to get an i9-9900k originally

muted patio
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Mmmmm

sick crane
muted patio
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Nah

fossil cedar
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Meh

sick crane
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and I also want to go with white and black

fossil cedar
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The power supply depends on components

sick crane
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theme

balmy patio
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ok

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i'll start off with a list and then someone else can edit it or sum

sick crane
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kk thx

sick arch
muted patio
sick crane
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I don't know everything u need for one

muted patio
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what

fossil cedar
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The drive

muted patio
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OH

fossil cedar
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Np

muted patio
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BAH

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MB changed again

fossil cedar
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Yeha just noticed that wtf how?

muted patio
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XD

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brb

balmy patio
sick crane
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kk

muted patio
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The only thing you could add to that is a bunch of RGB lol

balmy patio
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lmaoaoa

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they said all black, and i went with that

muted patio
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Yep

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RGB gets spendy quick tho XD

balmy patio
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the rest could prob be used on a 4k144hz monitor tbh

muted patio
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There ya go

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M27Q

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1440p

fossil cedar
balmy patio
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lol

muted patio
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$700 left in the build, should be able to do it

fossil cedar
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Also you could chuck in 2 tb pilot e's instead of a hard drive cuz why not

jagged ember
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But why use extra money

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When you could put all of it to gpu

fossil cedar
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Although that's a cheap ass 4tb drive

fossil cedar
jagged ember
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Yeah the 700 would be for the 3080

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And also I personally prefer more storage

balmy patio
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a 3090 would be useless for his needs imo

jagged ember
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4tb hdd nice for that

fossil cedar
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How do you use 6tb

jagged ember
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Images and videos

balmy patio
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4tb for mass, 2tb for game, os, programs, and frequent files

jagged ember
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Memes

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Games

muted patio
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If streaming/recording

jagged ember
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Programs

muted patio
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Gets used up quick

jagged ember
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Etc

fossil cedar
balmy patio
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especially if they're gonna be recording on high res

fossil cedar
jagged ember
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Yeah maybe

balmy patio
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and then there's perhaps shows and movies they'd like to keep on hand for when the internet goes wonk

fossil cedar
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Ahh

jagged ember
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Idk what kinda gamer they are

muted patio
jagged ember
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So yeah

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Def needs the storage

fossil cedar
fossil cedar
balmy patio
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hah

jagged ember
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Hey you never know when the web will go down

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Might as well store all episodes of the office on your pc

fossil cedar
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All legal ofc

jagged ember
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Yes ofc

fossil cedar
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Can't argue with that

rigid oracle
fossil cedar
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Pls don't buy that jeez

forest nexus
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Whats a good upgrade cpu cooler?

fossil cedar
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What cpu you trying to cool?

forest nexus
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im currently running the one that came stick with my ryzen 5 3600x and its not very good

fossil cedar
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Id cooling se 224xt

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Or gammaxx 400/vetroo v5

forest nexus
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ok thanks

fossil cedar
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Np

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Make sure they okay price tho cuz in some countries they priced weirdly high

forest nexus
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i found a deep cool Gammaxx for 36 euros on amazon

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also is there a way to cool a graohics cars

balmy patio
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with their cooler, or water cooled

forest nexus
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oh

balmy patio
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dk if nzxt still has their aio's for gpu's

muted patio
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There are aftermarket air coolers but they ugly

forest nexus
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ok

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i thinks its fine

fossil cedar
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Air cooling gpu is fine

muted patio
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Yeah, my 3070 never goes above 65C

fossil cedar
fossil cedar
vagrant olive
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my zotac 3060 has only hit 80C on cyberpunk at max and ray tracing on max

fossil cedar
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That's zotac for ya

robust lake
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Mine is 65c max with some oc and stock fun curve

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3070

fossil cedar
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Hopefully not while mining because mem temps dont show only core ^

robust lake
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When minning i have 44 rn but it is 42-50

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Depends on the ambient temp

fossil cedar
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Nice

robust lake
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Fans on 60%

fossil cedar
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Yeah mine runes around there, usually 55ish overnight because i turn fan speed down a bit so i can sleep better

robust lake
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I cant hear it on 60 so its fine for me

sick crane
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I want triple monitors which monitors should I get

balmy patio
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what resolution you planning on using?

sick crane
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720-1080

balmy patio
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do you just need them for screen real estate, or do you plan to game on them as well?

sick crane
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I plan to game and stream

robust lake
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I wouldnt get 720p

sick crane
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so 1080

balmy patio
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do you plan on gaming on all three, or just one main monitor and two side ones?

robust lake
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Yeah 1080 is fine

sick crane
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I think I'll game on 1 then 1 for discord and 1 fir watching the stream and controlling it

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so any ideas

balmy patio
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720p is honestly fine as a side monitor for general use

sick crane
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kk so what brand

sick crane
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probs 1440

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then 720 or 1080 on side ones

balmy patio
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you got a budget? or does the price not matter too much

muted patio
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Don't go 720

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1080p minimum

sick crane
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not to much

balmy patio
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the m27q is nice for its price

sick crane
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kk thx

balmy patio
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the side monitors could be generic 1080p60hz, do you have any specifications set for their features or nah?

warm swift
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@muted patio can you tell me what to do in the bios?

forest nexus
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what could be causing alot of buffeting in games?

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could it be high cpu temps?

fossil cedar
fossil cedar
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Cuz if that most likely drive

forest nexus
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no like mini fezes

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you could call it lag

fossil cedar
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Stutters

forest nexus
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yeah

fossil cedar
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See what temps your cpu is at under load and tell us?

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Also what gpu you have and what game?

forest nexus
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i have a radeon rx 5700

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playing titanfall 2

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its a fps game

lilac flame
forest nexus
robust lake
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68 is fine so i dont think its the cpu

fossil cedar
junior mango
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is 59 on idle cpu temp good for a ryzen 7 3700x

fossil cedar
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No

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Idle is usually in the 30-40 range

junior mango
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by idle i mean not playing games

fossil cedar
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Yes

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Ik

fossil cedar
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What cooler are you using?

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And did you use enough thermal paste

junior mango
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yes i used enough

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the wraith prism

fossil cedar
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The stock one isn't enough

muted patio
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It shouldn't be idling that high, what's the fan speed at? Also, when you clipped it, did you push the black lever down?

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SO it latches and clicjs?

junior mango
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yea

fossil cedar
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Fan speed?

junior mango
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like 1300 to 1400

muted patio
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I had the Prism on my 3700x and idle temps weren't that high, something funky there

fossil cedar
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Also you're not choking it with an h510 or something are you?

junior mango
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im also on ryzen high performace

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no

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i have like 6 fans in my case

fossil cedar
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I'd say try re apply thermal paste

muted patio
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Try balanced

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performance is better with that plan anyway

junior mango
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ok

fossil cedar
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Perf is better on balanced than performance??

muted patio
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yeah

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I'll find the tests

junior mango
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should i try to get somthing like a better air cooler or a aio

fossil cedar
muted patio
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IDK

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It just is

fossil cedar
fossil cedar
muted patio
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not a lot

fossil cedar
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That makes no sense tho wtf

junior mango
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so what should i do

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i can change power plan

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how can i set my cpu fan speed

muted patio
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Yes, change to balanced

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Try that first

junior mango
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alright

fossil cedar
junior mango
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thanks

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this wouldn't effect my fps in games or just performance in general

muted patio
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Nope

forest nexus
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is it normal that my cpu temp climbs from just idling?

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like it started at 33 and now its at 45c..

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now its at 47...

wanton cliff
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Check background processes, see if anything is using a lot of the CPU

forest nexus
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ok

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how can i check that/

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?

wanton cliff
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Task manager, to start

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ctrl+shift+esc

forest nexus
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i got one thing runnong

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running

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msi afterburner

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the thing i use to check temps

desert gulch
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well temps will rise a little if your pc has been off for a while

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once cpu is at room temp when pc is shut down, and you turn pc on, ofc cpu will heat up a bit

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but 47 seems kinda high for an idle

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any overclocks on your 3600x?

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because 3600x stock cooler is pretty decent tbh

forest nexus
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nope

desert gulch
#

hm

fossil cedar
#

Lorenz check your background processes

forest nexus
#

also i just checked and whilst playing a game it maxed out at 90c

desert gulch
#

damn

#

thats kinda high

forest nexus
#

wich seems quite high

#

yeah

desert gulch
#

are you sure cooler is fully installed?

forest nexus
#

i mean it spins...

fossil cedar
#

When installing it did you tighten screws in cross pattern?

#

Could have been installed uneven

desert gulch
#

yeah but screws should keep going until they self limit

forest nexus
#

yep

desert gulch
#

gotta screw it in until it wont screw in any more

forest nexus
#

ohh ok

desert gulch
#

yeah

forest nexus
#

so can i just screw it in further now?

little osprey
#

I am looking to build a pc is intel core i5 a good processor

desert gulch
#

theres little springs under the screws iirc, and those springs should compress and kinda limit how far you can screw it in

little osprey
#

10400

desert gulch
#

yeah its good

little osprey
#

Ok

desert gulch
#

are you gonna go igpu?

#

cause if so id go 11500

#

11500 better apu than 10400

fossil cedar
#

Woops forgot to turn off ping sorry

desert gulch
#

lol all good

little osprey
#

my bank account is coping

fossil cedar
#

Oof why

little osprey
#

just a wee bit expensive ram

fossil cedar
#

Like 200?

little osprey
#

around there

fossil cedar
#

Yikes

#

You could get 32gb of 3200 mb 3600 for that price

little osprey
#

true

earnest olive
#

4400C16

#

that is an insane bin

#

what voltage?

little osprey
#

1.5

#

i was looking for 4800 but i couldnt find it around me

earnest olive
#

what does the rest of your system look like

little osprey
#

11600kf seasonic prime msi z490m gaming edge ek aio 240

rich helm
#

Yeah what system needs 4400

little osprey
#

980pro

little osprey
#

zoooom

fossil cedar
#

Butt you could have gotten a 5600x for that price and normal ram

little osprey
#

my first gaming pc was a 6600k

fossil cedar
#

....

desert gulch
#

ok

little osprey
#

the first of 14nm cpus

fossil cedar
#

Okay?

desert gulch
#

legit intel wont care about 4400

little osprey
#

11th is the last of 14nm and ddr4

#

im going to have it forever

fossil cedar
#

Having fast ram on Intel is basically useless

#

Well above 3000

desert gulch
#

past 3200 i wouldnt go

little osprey
#

all good

fossil cedar
#

But the jump from 3000 to 3200 so small as well

desert gulch
#

3200 c16 is kinda sweet spot for price and performance rn

fossil cedar
#

^

wanton cliff
#

Wait

#

Confusion

#

You are saying that you are going to have it forever

little osprey
#

i have cl15 2600 now

#

yeah personal computer

wanton cliff
#

But they are DDR4 DIMMs?

little osprey
#

they are

wanton cliff
#

So how exactly are they going to last forever?

#

You would have to have a great sample CPU to even get performance out of those

little osprey
#

we will see

#

first hand experience how long they last

fossil cedar
#

You would have been way better getting a better cpu and 3200mhz ram

wanton cliff
#

Waste of money after 4000mhz IMO

desert gulch
#

yeah

little osprey
#

one to another

wanton cliff
#

Kinda a waste of money after 3600 if you ask me

fossil cedar
desert gulch
#

coulda bought a 5600x and been better off

little osprey
#

you tell me 11900k 3600 or 11600kf and 4400

desert gulch
#

neither

fossil cedar
#

No we're saying amd

desert gulch
#

11900k waste of sand

little osprey
#

i knew i wanted the 11600kf long before it came out

wanton cliff
#

...why

#

It sucks

little osprey
#

5.1ghz all core

wanton cliff
#

Literally worse than 10900kf

little osprey
#

i would send my geekbench but the bot will exterminate me

fossil cedar
little osprey
#

6600k>11600kf

fossil cedar
#

Well duh

#

But we're saying AMD is a company that makes good cpus

little osprey
#

i picked the z490 onsale aswell

desert gulch
#

how much for that z490

little osprey
#

yeah im aware of the amd memes

wanton cliff
rich helm
little osprey
#

180cad and i got $20usd back in steam cards from msi

fossil cedar
little osprey
fossil cedar
wanton cliff
desert gulch
little osprey
fossil cedar
#

the best top end processors are AMD atm bob

wanton cliff
#

All of the best top end

little osprey
#

good thing i only spent 250usd

#

and got it in the mail at msrp

fossil cedar
desert gulch
#

coulda almost gotten a 5600x for 250

#

and you coulda gone cheaper ram

fossil cedar
#

^

little osprey
#

i didnt want amd

muted patio
#

11600K good, just OC it to 11900K lol

desert gulch
#

and gotten a 5600x

fossil cedar
#

Why

little osprey
#

because i didnt?

fossil cedar
desert gulch
wanton cliff
#

Fanboyism

fossil cedar
#

Why would you want a worse pc

wanton cliff
little osprey
#

maybe if you keep it out of box

#

Overclocking is my interest

muted patio
#

Why we mocking people?

desert gulch
#

ryzen 5k series can oc pretty decent i think

little osprey
#

idk

wanton cliff
#

We aren’t mocking

fossil cedar
desert gulch
#

yeah

#

theyre all unlocked

wanton cliff
#

Just saying that he made a choice that he can still reverse

muted patio
wanton cliff
little osprey
#

im very happy with my purchase

muted patio
#

11600K = 10900K anyway LOL

fossil cedar
desert gulch
#

lol yeah

#

just a price difference

muted patio
#

it ain't bad

fossil cedar
#

Even if you went intel i still think 4400mhz ram too.much

desert gulch
#

woulda been cool if intel made something to directly compete with the 5900x

little osprey
#

i will send updated benchmarks with new ram

desert gulch
#

id go 3600 c16 max with intel

#

11th gen

muted patio
#

I'd be curious to see that

#

WIth 4400 mhz ram

little osprey
#

yall do realize that 11th gen has the single thread speed over ryzen in most cases right?

desert gulch
#

with 10th id stick with 3200 c16

fossil cedar
# muted patio Definitely

That's why we got into the whole depl are in the first place lol because better cpu and 3200mhz at that point

little osprey
#

most cases the single core speed

little osprey
#

yes really

#

amd is not bad

muted patio
#

I'd beg to differ 🙂

little osprey
#

what clocks

#

are everything at

wanton cliff
#

Base

little osprey
#

nice

desert gulch
#

and id take a 5800x over 11900k any day

muted patio
#

Overclocking shouldn't count for benchmarks

desert gulch
#

spend less on mobo

muted patio
#

because most people won't OC

desert gulch
#

and cpu

little osprey
desert gulch
#

and have similar perf

fossil cedar
muted patio
#

Not enough overclocked benchies out there yet

little osprey
#

you see that 11600k at 5.0 all core 44 cache?

#

mine is 5.1 all core 49 cache

#

250usd

muted patio
#

Great. Keep in mind, most people don't OC so recommendations stem from that

little osprey
#

true

#

but i do enjoy it

muted patio
#

I do too

#

Had my 3700x to 4.3 ghz all core NYEHE

little osprey
#

nice

muted patio
#

Intel 11600K really is the sweet spot right now

#

As well as the 11400K

little osprey
#

the f is even better

#

higher clocks and lower price

desert gulch
#

depends on if you want that apu

#

im guessing alot of ppl will stick it out on igpu until gpu market is back to normal

little osprey
#

yeah that is the benefit

#

or if you dont have a backup card

desert gulch
#

im guessing a lot of ppl dont

#

tons of ppl are building their first rigs rn

little osprey
#

im still running an old msi gamingX 1060 6gb this thing is very reliable

#

ive been mining on it on and off for the 5 years that ive owned it no problems

desert gulch
#

1060 is cool, i think it still is most common card according to steams hardware survey

#

woulda been cool to see nvidia put out a cheaper card this series

little osprey
#

im eyeing down an msi 3060 at msrp... whenever that is possible

desert gulch
#

you might get lucky

muted patio
#

MSRP, as in $350?

desert gulch
#

would be cool if nvidia made a $250 card this time tho

muted patio
#

Tariffs need reversed first

desert gulch
#

at release

little osprey
muted patio
#

EVGA has one

little osprey
#

so im going to be waiting a while

muted patio
#

And I think Zotac

little osprey
#

im in canada keep in mind

muted patio
#

yikes

little osprey
#

yeah

desert gulch
#

fun

little osprey
#

3060s are going for 1400 on the used market.......

#

unreal

desert gulch
#

damn

fossil cedar
#

Went up after mining limiter was unlocked in that driver

kind hemlock
#

Hey so I got a new MSI MAG cooler for my 5800x today but I can only find one cpu mounting bracket what should I do 😭

#

Is it possible to just mount it without the bracket?

fossil cedar
#

did it only have an intel mounting bracket?

#

youll probs have to return

kind hemlock
#

No it came with the right AMD bracket but I only have one of the things on the left

fossil cedar
#

ohh

#

just return it

kind hemlock
#

Thought those were Called cpu mounting brackets mb lol

desert gulch
#

weird

#

id contact msi

#

they may be able to send another one over

kind hemlock
#

No it didn’t come with any of the things on the left

desert gulch
#

instead of having to return

muted patio
#

The left thing isn't needed as far as I know? That's for AMD stock cooler? Should have come on the mother board also

#

Just standard AM4 mounting clips

desert gulch
#

i think mobos come with am4 mounting clips usually

kind hemlock
#

The cooler didn’t come with any of the things on the left I had to scour around and find my old motherboard box to find that but I can’t find the other one

desert gulch
#

doubt youll need them tho

muted patio
#

I'm reading the manual

#

Those should have come with your motherboard TBH

stoic island
#

That looks like the standard mounting from the motherboard

muted patio
#

Mounted to it already

kind hemlock
#

Also I would just try to order one online but I have a birthday party tomorrow and VR is kind of a core part lol

muted patio
#

And yeah, looks like you need them

#

What happened to the ones that came on your motherboard?????

kind hemlock
muted patio
#

Ah

#

oof

desert gulch
#

or actually, what cooler do you have on mobo rn?

muted patio
#

Cooler doesn't come with them

#

That's why not included

kind hemlock
#

Stock 3600 cooler lol

desert gulch
#

oof

#

amazon prolly carries am4 mounting clips

muted patio
#

They do

desert gulch
#

prolly wouldnt get it in time for tmrw

kind hemlock
#

Yeah I need it for tomorrow lol

muted patio
#

Checked the 3600X box maybe?

kind hemlock
#

I think that’s been thrown away, I got my 3600 like 8 months ago

kind hemlock
#

Yeah amazons basically out of the picture it wouldn’t be here in time for tomorrow

desert gulch
#

hmmm

#

got any local pc stores nearby?

stoic island
#

Not even if amazon prime?

fossil cedar
kind hemlock
#

Nope, micro center is like 400 miles away

stoic island
#

What about fry's

kind hemlock
stoic island
#

I thought amazon offered same day/1 day shipping for prime items..?

muted patio
#

To some places and for some items

#

Not for all the things

kind hemlock
desert gulch
stoic island
#

Yea I'm specifying prime items

kind hemlock
muted patio
#

NOt all prime are

stoic island
#

Ick

kind hemlock
fossil cedar
stoic island
#

@kind hemlock check if maybe for some reason you still have one of those mounting brackets installed on the motherboard?

fossil cedar
#

do you have the mobo box?

#

might be in there

kind hemlock
#

Yeah

#

I checked already

#

That’s where I found the ikr

#

One*

fossil cedar
#

ahh :'/

kind hemlock
#

Do you think Best Buy would have any?

muted patio
#

Nah

stoic island
#

I mean

desert gulch
stoic island
#

Unless you want to buy another am4 motherboard

#

And salvage the mounting

#

Lol

desert gulch
#

lol

kind hemlock
#

I’ve considered it lol but naw that’s a waste of like $100

stoic island
#

A320 boards could be as cheap as ~50$

#

But yea

desert gulch
#

got any friends with a spare am4 mobo?

#

that you can borrow mounting from?

kind hemlock
#

I’ve asked around, still waiting on responses

fossil cedar
#

can you not just keep the stock cooler?

stoic island
#

5800x no stock

desert gulch
kind hemlock
#

Actually there’s one friend I haven’t asked yet lemme call him real quick

muted patio
#

yeah

fossil cedar
#

ohh didnt realise 5800x nvm

muted patio
#

3600x cooler on 5800x

desert gulch
#

yeah

muted patio
#

ouch lol

desert gulch
#

not even 3600x vintage

kind hemlock
#

My 5800x didn’t come with a stock cooler and the 3600 stock cooler is a no go for the 5800x lol

desert gulch
#

its a stealth i think

fossil cedar
#

sorry, thought it was just cooler upgrade

desert gulch
#

spire would be better

#

but stealth is all hes got

stoic island
#

Also anyone that has an am4 board, just ask them, a good number of aftermarket cooling solutions don't use that bracket

desert gulch
#

yeah

#

i have a couple spare clips if you want them lmao

stoic island
#

Like my d15 came with its own brackets

#

Shipping might take too long tho

desert gulch
#

lmao yea

stoic island
#

Global logistics wack

desert gulch
#

unless he lives right next to me

#

xD

stoic island
#

Ya

desert gulch
#

i could fly them over to him

#

big brain

stoic island
#

Waste of monies

#

The ticket would cost more than just buying a board from BB and taking the bracket off

desert gulch
#

lmao yea

fossil cedar
stoic island
#

Lol

kind hemlock
#

Yeah I just left my friend a message

#

I might be able to pick up his lol

desert gulch
#

lol nice

#

id order those ones on amazon i posted

#

so you can return his once you get them

odd abyss
#

can motherboards effect gamplay

#

or not rlly

balmy patio
#

not really

muted patio
#

NOt really

odd abyss
#

bc im wondering

muted patio
#

I mean, some INtel boards cheat but not AMD

#

Like, they don't follow INtel's power limit rules, etc

odd abyss
#

intel boards can?

muted patio
#

Some of them, yes

odd abyss
#

ahh

#

bc im wondering

#

my board i want rn

muted patio
#

They don't follow Intel's prescribed Power Plan settings

#

They cheat basically allowing longer boost times

odd abyss
#

is out of stock, and im wondering how to find a motheroard thatll fit my pc

#

maybe cheaper too

#

ik

#

idk*

#

i just dont know how to figure out how itll fit

muted patio
#

B560 be hard to get right now period

#

Super popular

odd abyss
#

oh

muted patio
#

Any ATX board will fit

#

with a B560 chipset

odd abyss
#

whats one thatll fit my build but not mess up my c

#

gamplay*

#

oh

#

ok

muted patio
#

pcpp being super stupid

odd abyss
#

any atx board, intel?

muted patio
#

B560 search turns up nothing

odd abyss
#

what should i google then

muted patio
#

-_-

#

Intel B560 ATX

odd abyss
#

im dyslexic

#

lul

#

ok ty

muted patio
#

YW

odd abyss
#

caps lul

muted patio
#

Yikes, lots are out of stock everywhere

odd abyss
#

fr

#

that and GPU's

#

wait

#

i just reliesed

muted patio
odd abyss
#

what ab my other spec, theyll fit?

muted patio
#

Just one M.2 slot is disabled with 10400

odd abyss
#

ooooo

#

?

#

wym

#

im fairly new to pc's

muted patio
#

There are 2 M.2 drive slots. Only one will work with 10th gen

#

Need 11th gen to be able to use both of them

#

Not a huge deal

odd abyss
#

Intel B560 ATX

#

wait

#

wrong ctrl-v

#

one sec

#

so itll work w/ that tho

muted patio
#

yes

odd abyss
#

aight

muted patio
#

It's slightly smaller physical size but that doesn't matter

odd abyss
#

u said i can only use 2 slots of ram?

#

with my cpu

#

bc i have 2 ram sticks

muted patio
#

No, 2 M.2, the SN750

#

Can only use one

#

at a time

odd abyss
#

k

rocky dock
#

I would send a pic of my build in #build-pics but I'm in the car 😭

brittle tinsel
#

would streamlabs be extreamly laggy because it wasnt in administrator? or do I have seperate issues?

wanton cliff
#

What are you using to render?

#

Nvenc or CPU?

brittle tinsel
wanton cliff
#

You can try running in admin, see if it does anything

brittle tinsel
#

it was only doing about 5fps until I ran it as admin, now I get 30fps

autumn wolf
#

if you really want to as well, you can do performance mode so it doesnt show the preview

brittle tinsel
#

but it still seems a little off, I dont know if the 3900x should feel this choppy on video or streaming

brittle tinsel
muted patio
#

It shouldn't be choppy

autumn wolf
#

should def be able to stream off of that unless youre doing something seriously cpu intensive

muted patio
#

I can stream fine on my 3700x

#

BUt i use nVenc to encode

#

not CPU

autumn wolf
#

what settings are you streaming at?

#

and what are you trying to stream

#

3900x should be able to handle quite a lot

brittle tinsel
#

I mean right now, just chilling in siege with streamlabs and medal open Im at 60% usage on cpu

brittle tinsel
autumn wolf
#

shouldnt be choppy >_>

stoic island
#

huh

#

weird

#

@brittle tinsel what encoder is it using

autumn wolf
#

theyve tried both nvenc and h264

brittle tinsel
#

x264 currently

stoic island
#

hmmmm

#

lemme try to stream siege at 1080p60fps with GFE (nvenc)

muted patio
#

Are you sure it's not your upload speed?

#

Or is it in the actual program?

autumn wolf
#

also by choppy do you mean on stream its choppy or is the preview in slobs choppy? and by choppy do you mean screen tearing a lot or more of like a stutter/buffer kinda look

brittle tinsel
#

its like if you were to be playing a game at 10 fps, kinda unsmooth

#

I just recorded a bit to see if its only preview and stream or what

autumn wolf
#

dont use the built in windows media player to watch cause thats choppy as is most of the time

muted patio
#

Recorded?

#

Drive speed maybe?

brittle tinsel
#

no, the video isnt as bad as the preview window

stoic island
#

Siege is not the issue, rn I'm streaming 1080p60fps to twitch with nvenc for fun with 3800x+2070 at 30% cpu usage in menu, and the fps doesn't change in menu.

brittle tinsel
#

but I dont know it could be off because I normally record/play 144fps, my internet cant stream anythingg above 720p30fps however

#

not until I move anyhow

stoic island
#

Whats your upload speed?

brittle tinsel
#

2mbs 2.5 on a good day

stoic island
#

Ah

#

That might be the issue

autumn wolf
#

could be the issue, but try streaming and watch it on another device to see if it is choppy while watching it instead of looking at the preview window

#

if its like that on stream as well then could be upload speed issue, if not, then could be the preview window for whatever reason which it shouldnt do that and id suggest just capping frames

brittle tinsel
autumn wolf
#

seems good except for when you go into the corner and turn around fps drops a bit

brittle tinsel
#

well it wasnt supposed to be on my stream overlay

autumn wolf
#

and the end a bit

desert gulch
#

and that game is just bad

#

but other than that it is acceptable

wanton cliff
#

Lmao

#

Skill cap too high

brittle tinsel
wanton cliff
#

These new devs should really start to realize that there should be an actual, tangible skill cap in these games. It’s what made Fortnite and Rainbow 6 so un-fun, partially

brittle tinsel
stoic island
#

hm?

#

siege is still fun to me tbh

autumn wolf
#

what bitrate are you streaming at?

brittle tinsel
#

1000

#

at 720, I have done 1200 at 1080 but it dropped bits here and there so I do 1000 and dont have bit drops

autumn wolf
#

at x264, what preset/profile are you using?

brittle tinsel
#

um whatever the automatic thing did when i downloaded the app

#

preset is quality and profile is high

autumn wolf
#

youre using nvenc?

brittle tinsel
#

x264

autumn wolf
#

_>

stoic island
#

try nvenc again

brittle tinsel
#

on a 1060 3gb?

stoic island
#

Yes

#

Pascal NVENC is still decent

autumn wolf
#

under the Output tab for the encoder? cause its suppose to be CPU Usage Preset with fast, verfast, medium and such

brittle tinsel
#

i was hoping to use x264 so I could stream call of duty as that uses more than what i have on the gpu

#

wait under advanced it was using nvenc new

hollow wave
#

Hey I have two questions that I would like to preface by saying I currently have an i7-10700F and a 3060ti with 16gb ddr4 3ghz RAM with a B460M motherboard and 600W EVGA 90+ PSU. First question is would it be even monetarily worth it to upgrade my CPU to a i9-10900k? Second question would be would it even be worth it to upgrade to 32gb of RAM? For context, I stream games, occasionally edit videos, and mostly use my PC for school

autumn wolf
#

change it to nvenc and for the preset change it to performance instead of quality

#

no and no for those questions

#

assuming you have 16gb of ram rn

brittle tinsel
warm swift
#

@stoic island i need your help

stoic island
#

hi

hollow wave
#

Pavlov VR

#

things of that sort