#building-and-recc-chat

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stoic island
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just some features that are niche

little osprey
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^

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get b550-f/aorus elite ax v2

stoic island
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btw

little osprey
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whichever looks better in your opinion

stoic island
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I've never seen this company that makes the fets for the b550-e

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Monolithic power

warm swift
stoic island
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MP86992-C787

little osprey
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Because most of the features that are different are inside the pcb/back ports

stoic island
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we've heard of the SiC654/651 that's on aorus elite ax and pg velocita but

orchid charm
stoic island
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long name

warm swift
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i mean @little osprey @stoic island do you think that the B550-E would be useful to me?

stoic island
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No

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it would not

little osprey
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Not at all

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esp if you're only turning on PBO

stoic island
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I never considered it better than b550-f for builds from the start xD

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out of curiosity, lemme look at companies that makes fets

little osprey
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never would recommend it to anybody unless they want overclocking, most people who want overclocking know what they need at that point

stoic island
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ofc

warm swift
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i would overclock but if its something useful but idk how to even overclock thats the thing so idk what to overclock exactly

stoic island
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It's just

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telling stuff to run faster, whether or not the parts were built to run faster

warm swift
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is that what people do with CPU's?

stoic island
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well, less explanation, but more starter guide

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same thing

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:P

orchid charm
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overclocking is scary

desert scarab
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yoooo

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i need help folks

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If i download windows to my usb for my new build from my laptop

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will it get rid of the windows on my laptop?

wanton cliff
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no?

warm swift
wanton cliff
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why would it

desert scarab
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idk just curious

orchid charm
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youll be just fine

stoic island
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Yes

balmy patio
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you'll need much more than 8gb to do that

stoic island
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@warm swift PBO is the safer auto-oc

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most of 'actual' OCing is manually editing settings in bios

celest horizon
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It's not like the chip is slow 100% stock

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PBO is always an option once you have the system built

orchid charm
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is there a possibility that PBO is leaving some performance on the table versus manual OC

celest horizon
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Not unless you're benching for hwbot or something

orchid charm
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and PBO is cpu only correct?

celest horizon
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yes

warm swift
stoic island
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Well. If you just want it to work, overclocking gives you nothing but trouble for troubleshooting imo, XMP is the only "overclocking" I would suggest everyone to do. PBO is a bit weird, I haven't looked far enough into it

orchid charm
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is there any auto oc for gpu's?

stoic island
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eh, MSI Afterburner has an auto-OC

celest horizon
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Modern nvidia cards already boost based on temps/power limit

warm swift
stoic island
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Yea, boosting is technically automatically OCing

orchid charm
stoic island
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@warm swift Here's the thing, I'll give you a number to think about, at best, maybe 3% benefit from OCing with a good PC.

celest horizon
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Yep, it'll auto-oc itself down to -40c

celest horizon
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3% sounds a bit low, but I'd say pbo vs stock is still single digit gains most of the time

warm swift
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so your saying im really fine with just not overclocking anything yeah? @stoic island

stoic island
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Yes

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@celest horizon eh, I consider pbo just as good boosting (boosting under good cooling), so I don't consider it to be that much of a help, I also haven't really looked into pbo

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but you really really can get away with not overclocking, other than enabling XMP, XMP is good

hushed sigil
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Is this a vibe??

wanton cliff
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no

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one sec

hushed sigil
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Paired with a ryzen 5 3400g and a 3060.

warm swift
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@stoic island if i get a 2x16 ram, which is 32gb, and one day i also got 32 gb and put them, will they still be 32gb or 62gb?

hushed sigil
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This ones a better option?

wanton cliff
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yeah

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much better

orchid charm
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Crucial are some of the best when it comes to performance

stoic island
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Wha

wanton cliff
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I dont like dominator

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dominator cring

hushed sigil
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Sayless thank you guys.

wanton cliff
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less

austere wagon
wanton cliff
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huh?

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@austere wagon what?

austere wagon
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Wouldn’t one want 2 sticks that add up to 16 gb

orchid charm
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I think he meant 16

austere wagon
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Instead of 4

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Ah I see

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I forgot the 1

wanton cliff
austere wagon
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Or just don’t get 4 sticks

orchid charm
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32gb is overkill

austere wagon
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For now

orchid charm
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Right

wanton cliff
austere wagon
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I’m just speaking in an upgrade ability sense

wanton cliff
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but not necessary

orchid charm
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Not everybody has the need for 32

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The average consumer

austere wagon
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I mean 16 is becoming the minimum now though

orchid charm
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Yeah nothing lower

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In my opinion

celest horizon
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2 ranks/channel will give a performance boost at the same clocks/timings

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2x16 is a good option if you have the budget

orchid charm
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What he said^

wanton cliff
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forks brain = bigbrain

orchid charm
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Honestly

wanton cliff
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my brain = brainlet

austere wagon
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But 2 sticks of ram will cost about the same as those 4 sticks

wanton cliff
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what 4 sticks?

orchid charm
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What 4 sticks?

wanton cliff
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the dominator stuff?

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that was just a marketing pic

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not representative of the whole product

celest horizon
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Dominator platinum is the definition of rgb tax

wanton cliff
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^

celest horizon
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That said, buy what you like

wanton cliff
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if you want to OC ever, I generally dont recommend Corsair anything (although we did just have this chat in #overclocking )

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generally

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also tfw

orchid charm
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Damn those prices

wanton cliff
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tfw rgb cheaper

wanton cliff
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STOP MANDO

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HERETIC

little osprey
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never

wanton cliff
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YOU ARE A HERETIC, WORTHY OF NEITHER PITY NOR GRACE

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oh hey

orchid charm
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Honestly I'm so new to the PC world that I just went for some good old gskill

wanton cliff
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crucial uses the correct term

wanton cliff
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G.Skill still good

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I have a G.Skill kit

stoic island
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Wait

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Why did discord

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What

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Why did it quote that

little osprey
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im getting a g.skill kit

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i can't find any 2x16 or even 4x8 in stock

wanton cliff
little osprey
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334$ for 2x16 Distraught

stoic island
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@warm swift my answer is 2x16+2x16=64gb

little osprey
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i doubt im gonna find 2x32 bdie for anything even in my budget lol

orchid charm
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That is some beautiful ram

little osprey
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ew

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CL18

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that is a disgrace to trident royal

orchid charm
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Well we can't all have the best now can we

stoic island
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Bro

stoic island
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@little osprey this might actually fit, 400$

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3200c14

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Tho it's fake c14

little osprey
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what r the chances of that getting 3600-4000

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cl14

stoic island
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0 for 2x32gb smh

little osprey
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ughhhhhhhhhh

wanton cliff
little osprey
wanton cliff
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ah

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ic

stoic island
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Not the 14-14-14-34 you usually expect but

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tCl is 14

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¯\_(ツ)_/¯

celest horizon
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It would have to be rdimm/fbdimm etc, and that's just not going to be a thing

little osprey
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figured

orchid charm
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Alright I have a good question

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Are corsair fans worth their premium price

wanton cliff
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depends on the fan

lyric thistle
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No

little osprey
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RGB or no RGB?

orchid charm
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RGB

little osprey
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no RGB ML120s(preferably ML140s) are great

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Yeah corsair RGB fans are beyond overpriced

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only reason to have them is if you want everything in one software

orchid charm
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I wish that were the case

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Its the one component that isn't aura compatible

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I guess I screwed up

wanton cliff
stoic island
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Will listen later

brittle tinsel
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If you had to choose between a 3900x now or 5900x when there is stock while also fighting for a 30 series card would you choose 3900x or 5900x?

muted patio
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5900x

brittle tinsel
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Why?

little osprey
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5900x

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its really not that hard to get if you aim specifically at best buy

brittle tinsel
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It’s not all that much better

little osprey
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Might take a few tries

muted patio
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It is tho

little osprey
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i got my 5900x first try

brittle tinsel
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Like what 10-12%?

little osprey
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easy

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1 sec

muted patio
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15-20%

brittle tinsel
little osprey
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On the dot

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usually tuesday

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every 2 weeks

brittle tinsel
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Damn

little osprey
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Last restock was this thursday so watch tuesday/thursday at 9 am

brittle tinsel
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I won’t have the money this week

wanton cliff
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rip

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oh... hey epsolandude

brittle tinsel
little osprey
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pst

brittle tinsel
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Est autocorrect

wicked frigate
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Guys what’s the difference between windows 10 and windows 10 OEM

brittle tinsel
brittle tinsel
stoic island
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@little osprey last was friday

wicked frigate
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@stoic island help

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What’s the difference

sullen spoke
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iirc oem can't move to different pc

stoic island
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Wot

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Difference in what

wicked frigate
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Guys what’s the difference between windows 10 and windows 10 OEM

little osprey
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huh

stoic island
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Yea retail can bind to acc to be transfered, I think oem can't

brittle tinsel
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Oem stands for original equipment manufacturer

little osprey
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i was up for like 30 hours when i bought my 5900x

wicked frigate
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Ok

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Thx

little osprey
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thought it was thursday lol

stoic island
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Lol

brittle tinsel
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Last question then, which will have better game performance between the 3900x and 5900x

little osprey
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5900x

tacit pendant
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nah dude a core 2 duo will work better for gaming

jade oracle
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hello, can anoyone advise on parts for building a GPu miner?

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any links would be appreciated

brittle tinsel
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?*

little osprey
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Yes

brittle tinsel
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550 or 708?

little osprey
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550

cursive haven
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can someone make my cousin a for 600-670 that can run COD at 144fps on comp settings

autumn aurora
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Good luck getting that with the current GPU market , it is what it is

muted patio
cursive haven
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ikr thats what i told him

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a rx580 is $405 lmao

potent portal
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6700XT launches in a couple days, we'll see what that does for the market

autumn aurora
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Nothin probably

fossil cedar
gusty pasture
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hi

autumn aurora
desert scarab
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AYOO

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I need help

autumn aurora
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By the way @fossil cedar Asrock helped me solve my RGB problem thx

brittle tinsel
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What would be a good 900-1000 watt psu? The enermax revolution d.f only goes up to 850 from what I can see

autumn aurora
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Seasonic , Corsair , evga ...

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By the way what do you need a 1000 watt for

brittle tinsel
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The cheaper seasonics don’t have all the connections that enermax does

brittle tinsel
desert scarab
brittle tinsel
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Singh I will be running a second gpu along with ti

desert scarab
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What’s this mean

brittle tinsel
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It

desert scarab
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??

fossil cedar
autumn aurora
desert scarab
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Ethernet devices and things under it with PCI

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It shows an error symbol

fossil cedar
autumn aurora
potent portal
desert scarab
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bruhh

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B460m pro4

stoic island
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@brittle tinsel RMi HXi hx g2 p2 t2 dark power pro 12 straight power 11

brittle tinsel
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You got a link? It won’t let me copy paste for some reason

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(Mobile)

desert scarab
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Yeaaa

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What’s that

potent portal
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If there's still stuff not showing up right after installing those drivers, we'll go from there

stoic island
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Uh

desert scarab
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How I install it

stoic island
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@brittle tinsel just look at em one by one

desert scarab
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@potent portal

stoic island
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In the US most of them are just gone

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RMi went out of stock

potent portal
desert scarab
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Onto my usb?

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@potent portal

potent portal
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If you can't download it directly on the computer, you can download on another one and copy it to USB yes

desert scarab
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No thing is

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I don’t have internet

muted patio
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use your phone

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Connect via USB and turn on hot spot

desert scarab
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Ethernet controller

potent portal
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Or download on the phone (if it's an android) and copy from internal storage

fossil cedar
potent portal
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The lan driver yeah

fossil cedar
little osprey
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amd production is ass rn

potent portal
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LAN driver is 680KB though

desert scarab
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Hol up

fossil cedar
fossil cedar
potent portal
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If you want to clear all the "unknown device" flags you def need GPU driver

desert scarab
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I plugged it in but it’s not letting me connect to internet

fossil cedar
potent portal
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Right, you need the Intel LAN driver, that's the ethernet driver

desert scarab
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thag didn’t come with the mobo or case?

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I also have a disc that came w mobo

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That do anything?

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Says drivers on it

muted patio
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Yeah those will be outdated

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and may not work with newest OS

desert scarab
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;-;

potent portal
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Yeah that would have the driver at least to get you going if it works

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But you'll still want to update it

desert scarab
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uhhh

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So what do I do

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For the Ethernet to work

potent portal
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Give the cd a try, worst case it doesn't work and you copy the LAN driver to a USB or your phone

muted patio
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Download it on your phone and transfer it by USB?

fossil cedar
desert scarab
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couldn’t I transfer it to my usb

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!

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?

fossil cedar
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If so make sure when it's plugged into pc that it's on act as usb device mod, or similar

desert scarab
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I don’t have android

potent portal
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Do you have another computer (or anything else really) that can connect to the internet?

stoic island
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Rip

desert scarab
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Yeah I do

potent portal
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Download the driver on that, then copy the driver to the USB, then you can copy it to the new PC

desert scarab
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Do I use the same usb I downloaded windows on?

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@potent portal

fossil cedar
potent portal
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You could still use it without formatting though

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But a better idea to format it

desert scarab
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@potent portal do u have the Ethernet driver link

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To download

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Or just a link to download all the rivers

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Drivers

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I need

desert scarab
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Ok

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Also @potent portal once I put the usb into my pc build what do I do?

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It will automatically read the Ethernet drivers!

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?*

potent portal
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Copy the file to your desktop, extract it, and run the setup.exe

desert scarab
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also that’s the only drivers I need right?

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And the ones earlier?

potent portal
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The three driver packages should be all you need, LAN, audio, GPU

desert scarab
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Ok

earnest olive
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I just bought a 10700K for $230

stoic island
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Noice

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MC?

earnest olive
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yeah

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for a customer build

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gonna be using the integrated graphics

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music production rig no gpu needed

potent portal
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That'll work nicely then

stoic island
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Reminds me of that setup Naed showed a while back

earnest olive
stoic island
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Wonder if all audio production just have a weak asf gpu

earnest olive
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guy has a power supply already

potent portal
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I'd call the ML360 overkill but not a bad price

earnest olive
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in my customization form he put 10/10 for caring about noise

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so i figured 360mm aio was the way to go

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makes sense for music production to want as little noise as possible

potent portal
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That seems fair then, bigger rad = cooler = less rpm needed

earnest olive
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yeah

potent portal
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Definitely tune that fan curve though, ML fans aren't the quietest

fossil cedar
# earnest olive

Was adata just the cheapest ram or was there a reason for cl18?

earnest olive
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budget constraint

fossil cedar
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Fair

earnest olive
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3600c16 32gb is like $50 more than 3600c18

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and i really doubt he is going to notice the difference

fossil cedar
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Oof

earnest olive
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not even gaming

stoic island
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sad

earnest olive
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you'd need an fps counter to notice the difference in gaming too tbh

fossil cedar
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Would you not just have gone with 3200 cl16?

earnest olive
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it's dual rank so it's better perf than 3600c16 single rank

earnest olive
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this was similarly priced to 32gb 3200c16

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so i went for it

fossil cedar
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That's fair, do you have a pc building business or something?

earnest olive
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yeah

stoic island
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who doesn't have afterburner + rtss OSD on with frametime chart, 1% lows, 0.1% lows on at all times?

earnest olive
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nothing fancy or super official just a sole proprietorship

fossil cedar
# earnest olive yeah

Ohh cool i was thinking of doing that but then was like ehh idk like do you just run off Facebook/friends etc?

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Or do you do it full time?

earnest olive
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facebook marketplace and paid advertising

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it's definitely not a full time thing though

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also a uni student and have a job on top of this

fossil cedar
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Hmm might try taking it up then

earnest olive
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i stopped recently because the gpu shortage is making it difficult/annoying to give quotes

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but this build is for a former customer who contacted me again

fossil cedar
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Also a uni student and have an intensive couse

fossil cedar
earnest olive
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it's a fun way to build more pcs than you can afford

fossil cedar
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It is just in general fun building imo

stoic island
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out of curiosity, how do you do payments? @earnest olive

earnest olive
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venmo/zelle

stoic island
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ah

fossil cedar
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Btw just upgraded from stock 3600 wraith cooler also now an id cooling fanboy xd

earnest olive
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25% deposit required before ordering parts

stoic island
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I'm only Keychron fanboy now

fossil cedar
rich helm
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Very similar

fossil cedar
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I phrases that bad lol was asking if zelle was similar to paypal or more like venmo?

earnest olive
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it's a service integrated into some banks that basically lets you do instant bank transfers using phone numbers instead of routing numbers

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via the bank's mobile app

fossil cedar
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Ohh cool

inner gust
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Hey so I am new to the PC life and discord but I wanted to see if y’all could help with upgrades for the build. My brother already streams and games on it, but just plays Minecraft and rocket league, but when he tries to stream COD war zone or GTA V it doesn’t work well. He can play it on its own, but just can’t stream at the same time

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That’s the build pics!

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Wondering what you all think would be next for upgrades to help us out

earnest olive
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is that a single stick of ram?

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add another stick of ram

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set stream settings to use NVENC

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and you're good

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that cpu cooler is insufficient for the i7-10700 with removed power limits

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but if running at stock settings it should be okay

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just not hitting maximum performance

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it has similar tdp rating to the stock cooler

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single stick of ram is always bad regardless of capacity

fossil cedar
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I meann yeah you might as well use stock cooler intead of buying that cooler

earnest olive
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dual channel is super important

fossil cedar
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Yeah another stick or ram would be super helpful

inner gust
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Dope, I appreciate y’all, still learning the ins and out

earnest olive
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ram and cooler aside the rest of the build is solid and definitely good enough to stream those games

inner gust
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Should I upgrade the cooler or just go back to the stock?

earnest olive
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i'll get you a link in a sec

fossil cedar
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If you already have that another stick of ram to make it dual channel and a better cooler

fossil cedar
earnest olive
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case supports up to 172mm air cooler

inner gust
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Well, I would be open to suggestions for an upgraded cooler, just to keep in mind and invest in!

pure iron
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Not sure if there is a way to go private with messages but definitely could use some advice. Currently have a full cart of newegg but was wondering if someone could tell me whether I am going cheap or too expensive in areas.

blazing aurora
# inner gust

don't get a z-motherboard if you're not getting an unlocked cpu

fossil cedar
earnest olive
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that board with the 10700 is completely fine for ram overclocking

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presumably purchased before b560 came out

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not like better power delivery is a bad thing though

inner gust
pure iron
pure iron
inner gust
earnest olive
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@pure iron just go intel

pure iron
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The question of price is coming up because I have not selected a graphics card yet

earnest olive
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paying $388 for a ryzen 7 3800x is nonsense

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when the i7-10700K is $230 at microcenter

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and is a better cpu

gusty pasture
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no

earnest olive
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corsair vengeance ram is not great

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you can get an i9-10850K for quite a lot cheaper than that 3800X

gusty pasture
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no

earnest olive
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and the 10850K will beat that 3800X in both gaming and multicore

earnest olive
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ah yes

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amd fanboys

gusty pasture
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hell yeah

earnest olive
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willingly paying more money for less performance

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keep buying the $200 ryzen 5 3600 over the $110 i5-10400f

gusty pasture
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u think

fossil cedar
earnest olive
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6c/12t comet lake is cheaper than 4c/8t zen 2

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🙂

gusty pasture
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u thik what u want to

earnest olive
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b560 chipset bringing ram overclocking to $80 boards

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and no, I'm not an intel fanboy... just using critical thinking

fossil cedar
earnest olive
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now go away amd fanboy nobody cares about your propaganda here

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@pure iron do you happen to live near any microcenter locations?

pure iron
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I very much doubt it

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I live on the island of Oahu

earnest olive
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if so you can pick up an i7-10700K + MSI Z490-A PRO for $400

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ah

fossil cedar
# pure iron

The ram looks a tad pricy btw, you should just get a 10850k and I've never heard of that brand of cooler and pc part picker is generally a good idea to use as you see the best prices frkm multiple stores

earnest olive
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not a fan of the crucial p2 you can get substantially better ssds for $5-10 more

pure iron
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Very new to building a pc so honestly any tips are welcome

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My budget is around $1200 but if that can be beat, that would also be great

fossil cedar
earnest olive
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$1200 including graphics card?

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you would be better served by an i5 then

pure iron
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That's the main reason I am here. Had a few different ones in mind but they were all taking me way over budeget.

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So I was wondering what a reasonable price is. Is a graphics card usually $600+

fossil cedar
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Your best bet for a gpu atm would acc be a prebuilt sadly

pure iron
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My past two laptops have ran i7 quad cores so my lack of knowledge tells me going down to an i5 wouldn't be the right move.

earnest olive
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i5s are hyper threaded hexcores now

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so...

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i don't think you will see a downgrade lol

pure iron
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ok good to know lol

earnest olive
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if you are not in a rush then try to buy an RTX 3060Ti off of newegg shuffle

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might take a few months

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you can choose i5-10400 instead of i5-10400f and use integrated graphics while waiting for graphics card

fossil cedar
earnest olive
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my laptop currently has an i7-7700hq that gets left in the dust by an i5-10400

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with the i5-10400 being roughly twice as fast

earnest olive
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assumed he wanted to keep the rgb

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the se-224-xt rgb doesn't seem to be in stock

pure iron
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TBH none of the flashy lights are relevant

earnest olive
#

it is a fine cooler at a fine price I used a white one in my gf's build recently

pure iron
#

I prefer function

earnest olive
#

well it's not like you are sacrificing anything for the light it's a good cooler

#

sacrificing like 10 bucks maybe

pure iron
#

So that list basically includes everything but the graphics card?

earnest olive
#

yeah you'll either have to buy a used gpu from somewhere like r/hardwareswap or play the waiting game for a new one with stock alerts or newegg shuffle

#

gpu shortage is really bad right now

fossil cedar
#

If you don't expect to do 1440p or 4k or play triple A high detail that would do fine

earnest olive
#

decent price for the current market but I've heard some questionable things about ABS

fossil cedar
#

Fair, actually i think there's a really decent deal from dell atm hold on

#
#

The first one is a 1300 but at the top of the page for the next few days there's a 17% off code

pure iron
#

Excuse me if this sounds ignorant but I've always had this weird thing against Dells. I suppose I could be wrong for that.

earnest olive
#

nothing weird about disliking dell

#

they do plenty of things to earn dislike

fossil cedar
#

Some people have that but that's a good deal

earnest olive
#

they are the king of proprietary crap that you can't upgrade

#

honestly this laptop i got is really insane value

fossil cedar
#

But atm its decent, there's an i5 model for cheaper that you could actually trade for 2060 or 2070 i believe

wicked frigate
#

Just curious what’s a better mobo than dark hero

earnest olive
#

i'm excited for it to arrive

#

$1700 for an i7-10750h, 130w rtx 3070, 2x8gb 3200mhz ram, 512gb gen3 nvme ssd, 144hz ips screen

wicked frigate
#

And anyone know the price of the 11gen inter coming out

earnest olive
#

really good value for a laptop

#

130w rtx 3070 mobile slightly edges out desktop 3060ti

#

would have liked a ryzen mobile cpu but wasn't available to ship until april

#

i'd rather buy this laptop than one of those prebuilts

quasi hemlock
#

I plug the flash into the bios and started it but it has been like 30 minutes

#

Plugged

earnest olive
#

gonna head off discord have a midterm in an hour

#

peace

pure iron
#

Thanks for the advice, good luck

#

At this point just missing a gpu then

wicked frigate
#

Just curious what’s a better mobo than dark hero

#

Anyone knows????

fossil cedar
fossil cedar
wicked frigate
#

Crosshair

desert gulch
#

It's prolly the best one

#

Tbb

#

Tbh

fossil cedar
#

Asus crosshair gotcha

wicked frigate
#

Idk

fossil cedar
wicked frigate
#

But is it the best I e

#

For like x570 mobo

fossil cedar
desert gulch
#

Yeah but not best value

wicked frigate
#

Like 5900x or 5950x can’t find them sadly

fossil cedar
wicked frigate
#

What’s tbh

fossil cedar
#

There's not very much diff

desert gulch
#

To be honest

wicked frigate
#

How is 11 gen going to cost

fossil cedar
#

To be honest

desert gulch
#

Is tbh

desert gulch
wicked frigate
#

How is 11 gen going to cost

desert gulch
#

With a high tier cpu I'd stay away from msi x570s

wicked frigate
#

Should I wait for 11 gen

desert gulch
#

Their vrm temps can be yikes

wicked frigate
#

Yah screw msi

fossil cedar
desert gulch
#

Nah just their x570s

wicked frigate
#

Estimated price

fossil cedar
fossil cedar
wicked frigate
#

Who has best vrm temps

wicked frigate
#

Also should I get an aio

desert gulch
#

Check this

wicked frigate
#

K

fossil cedar
fossil cedar
desert gulch
fossil cedar
desert gulch
#

Sp maybe better gaming

wicked frigate
#

Bro I don’t understand that @desert gulch

fossil cedar
desert gulch
#

That tells you vrm temps

wicked frigate
#

I don’t understand I am new

desert gulch
#

Ok

wicked frigate
#

Can u just tell me

#

??

desert gulch
#

So

fossil cedar
fossil cedar
desert gulch
#

Cores are like lanes on a highway

wicked frigate
#

K

desert gulch
#

And speed of those cores is like the speed limit

wicked frigate
#

K

desert gulch
#

So more cores allows more info to travel

wicked frigate
#

Yah

desert gulch
#

In applications where all cores are used

#

Like editing and rendering

#

But core speed also matters

wicked frigate
#

Wait what the best cpu for gaming than

#

5950

desert gulch
#

Prolly gonna be 11900k

wicked frigate
#

What matter when choosing a gaming cpu

desert gulch
#

Amd best gaming cpu is 5900x

wicked frigate
#

Wait it is

desert gulch
#

5950x is for workstation more

wicked frigate
#

Ok

#

Wait how is intel going to be better

#

What the price

desert gulch
#

Higher single core speed

fossil cedar
wicked frigate
#

Should I go with intel

#

So which one has higher single core speed

fossil cedar
wicked frigate
#

Should I stick with amd

#

K

#

Release date anyone knows

fossil cedar
fossil cedar
wicked frigate
#

@desert gulch which one has highest single core speed

#

Ok

#

But should I stick with amd

#

Or intel

fossil cedar
wicked frigate
#

Like 3k

#

Or 2500

tranquil mountain
#

i9 9900k best processing

desert gulch
#

No

fossil cedar
#

No

tranquil mountain
#

Yes

desert gulch
#

11900k will most likely be best gaming cpu

wicked frigate
#

Here we go

tranquil mountain
#

Actually no

wicked frigate
#

@desert gulch so what should I go with

tranquil mountain
#

All youtubers use 9900

wicked frigate
#

CAUSE 11 gen hasn’t come out yet

desert gulch
#

That's cause its a bit old

wicked frigate
#

@desert gulch help me

#

Intel or amd

#

????

#

If u can

tranquil mountain
#

Intel

fossil cedar
wicked frigate
#

K

#

How abitu @desert gulch

#

I want multiple options

#

Opinions

fossil cedar
#

Ignore the Roblox guy he's being dumb

wicked frigate
#

Yah

#

I was about to says that

#

Roblox kids are dumb

fossil cedar
#

Lol

wicked frigate
#

Lol

#

@desert gulch can u help

worn wave
#

Trolls are wonderful

wicked frigate
#

Tf??

desert gulch
#

Huh

wicked frigate
#

@desert gulch help

desert gulch
#

With what

wicked frigate
#

What should I get intel or amd

#

In ir opinion

worn wave
#

What are you doing?

desert gulch
#

For just gaming?

wicked frigate
#

And other stuff

fossil cedar
#

He wants to know what cpu you would recommend for 3k build

desert gulch
#

Like what

wicked frigate
#

Umm editing

fossil cedar
#

I said 3900x cuz 12 cores

worn wave
#

5900X if you can get one

wicked frigate
#

Streaming

desert gulch
#

5900x then

fossil cedar
#

5900x*

wicked frigate
#

What about just for gaming

desert gulch
#

idk wait for 11900k stuff to come out

wicked frigate
#

With aio

desert gulch
#

and see

wicked frigate
#

Kkkkk

worn wave
#

10850k most likely just for gaming if you need it rn

pure iron
#

Last question. What is a good gpu in the $400-500 range?

fossil cedar
#

Well noone is just going to game but I'd still recommend 12 core 5900x because smooth

wicked frigate
#

Should I get an aio

jagged ember
#

It's for looks

desert gulch
#

if you can find one

fossil cedar
jagged ember
#

Performance wise an aio is the same as a tower cooler

fossil cedar
desert gulch
#

ehh

jagged ember
#

Eh not really

worn wave
#

If you are not OCing you don't need one really.

desert gulch
#

you could air cool

#

d15

jagged ember
#

Air and water cooling is the same

desert gulch
#

dark rock pro 4

jagged ember
#

D15 or dark rock pro 4 are basically aio in tower form

worn wave
#

If you are OCing you could get an AIO, or if you just want to get one for the looks.

fossil cedar
worn wave
#

Personally I would recommend a good tower cooler.

jagged ember
#

True, true

#

Towers have less failure points

#

And much less disastrous failures

#

If your aio pump decides to die or your tubes leak rip

fossil cedar
desert gulch
#

mhmm

jagged ember
#

Nope

worn wave
#

Nope

#

Not always.

desert gulch
#

if a d15 messes up all you need is a new fan

jagged ember
#

There's been actual testing done

desert gulch
#

since fan is most likely to die first

jagged ember
#

Sometimes air cooling does better than aio

fossil cedar
#

Fair

desert gulch
#

mhmm

#

and way better value

jagged ember
#

But otherwise equivalent, unless it's a low profile air cooler or something

desert gulch
#

go try to find a 90 dollar aio that can beat a dark rock pro 4

jagged ember
#

Yeah, that's gonna be hard

desert gulch
#

mhmm

#

dark rock pro 4 even on sale sometimes

#

saw it for 70 once

jagged ember
#

Nice

worn wave
#

How does the EK-AIO Basic 240 compare to a Dark Rock Pro 4

desert gulch
#

id guess pro 4 wins

jagged ember
#

I can't answer that specific question lol

#

Need to see tests and stuff

desert gulch
#

mhm

jagged ember
#

In other words, idk

#

But you know what I do know? How to segue to our sponsor

desert gulch
#

lililabs has the best prices with the best vps

worn wave
#

EK-AIO Basic 240 and Dark Rock Pro 4 are about the same

#

At least the RGB version

#

Afaik the performance should be the same

#

Basic is just without RGB so it should be about the same as the RGB one

#

In some cases it's actually better

sharp tundra
#

yo guys, my pc isnt putting out audio anymore, not from headphones or speakers?

#

it just randomly stopped

#

okay, now i just have no sound in game

desert gulch
#

try restarting pc

sharp tundra
#

already did -_-

desert gulch
#

um check output?

#

in sound settings?

sharp tundra
#

um, i fixed it somehow

#

dont really know what i did

desert gulch
#

oh lol

sharp tundra
#

now the sound wont come through my headphones

#

...

desert gulch
#

oof

sharp tundra
#

why my pc gotta act up on me

#

hey, a reset worked this time

desert gulch
#

hi

#

with what

#

ok

#

i cant decide your budget for you

#

what do you want to do with the pc?

#

no

#

im just not in your finanical situation so idk what your budget would be

#

some ppl set aside 3k for a pc, others sub 500

#

bruh

#

do you need help or are you just gonna troll

#

bruh

#

bruh so you just came to troll?

#

i dont want too

#

nor need to

#

xD

#

im not a mod, so i dont carry their duties

stoic island
#

cool

desert gulch
#

hi mr1

stoic island
#

hi ryan

#

how it going

desert gulch
#

pretty pog

#

hbu?

stoic island
#

good

desert gulch
#

couldnt agree more lol

stoic island
#

@desert gulch know anything about next gen Intel prices?

desert gulch
#

nah

#

i dont keep up great with next gen crap

stoic island
#

nor have I lmao

desert gulch
#

lmao

#

i know 10th gen stuff decent

#

since thats whats most ppl would buy from intel

stoic island
#

yes

pure iron
#

Any strategies on how to stag a 6700-xt?

night jackal
#

i'm starting pc building and could use some tips

desert gulch
night jackal
#

lol anything basically

#

i understand basic but i'm guesstimating most of this

desert gulch
#

ummm

#

you have the parts in front of you or no?

night jackal
desert gulch
#

hmm

#

ig one is

#

dont torque stuff down crazy

#

little past handtight is fine for pc stuff

night jackal
#

what are the must have components for pc?

#

cpu, cpu cooler?, motherboard, mem (ssd), psu

#

what else is necessary

#

derp. have both

#

well looking at both

still roostBOT
#
TheNoseKnows#7920 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

lyric yarrow
#

Windows automatic repair loop

#

Does anyone know how to fix it, I installed a new gpu and it’s stuck in the loop

#

Dell precision 7910 upgraded from a rx 580 to a 2080ti

desert gulch
obsidian wolf
#

Anyone knows where I can get a graphic card

#

In the 3000’s series

autumn wolf
#

newegg shuffle or best buy are the best bets right now

still bay
#

i have not spoken in here in maybe like a month

potent portal
#

When you change brands on your gpu, the old drivers can interfere with the installation of new ones

lyric yarrow
#

thanks m8

#

i got it to run off of the default windows drivers... then installed geforcce experience

#

gonna ddu the amd drivers later

pure iron
#

Given the fact that there are no good gpu's available, does anyone have any preferred brands for pre built pc's?

autumn wolf
#

me personally nzxt bld. people have been recommending BuildRedux a lot here in the server as well

pure iron
#

Thanks, nzxt must be good cause they are sold out lol

potent portal
#

NZXT tends to be cheaper because they use open box parts more. Build Redux is good because they don't over-charge for the build fees, but they've only got stuff starting at $1000 right now in stock.

pure iron
#

You think I can get by with the rtx 1660 or definitely worth the jump to rtx 3060?

#

Was planning on trying to get the 6700-xt after some advice although I'm sure that won't happen. lol

potent portal
#

It's worth it for a 3060ti IMO but a 1660 will still do 1080p easily

pure iron
#

Obviously everyone is looking to upgrade to 4k but I have yet to see the difference that well

potent portal
#

I'm still pretty happy on 1080p but I might go to 1440p soon

autumn wolf
#

me still at 1080p kekw

pure iron
#

Unfortunately, unless the money is flowing most people will be on 1080 for a while

potent portal
#

Well yeah, there's nothing wrong with 1080 specifically. A lot of people can't even tell any difference between that and higher resolutions, especially at a distance.

autumn wolf
#

most are gonna be at 1080p even if they had the money since 4k doesnt provide that much and also hinders performance even with the lineup of cards we have now

desert scarab
#

ayoooo wsg fal

#

That pci thing still shows the symbol

potent portal
desert scarab
#

Ok I’ll do it in the morning, or afternoon

brittle tinsel
#

Is it evga or someone else that allows you to join “a waitlist” then send you an email with limited time to buy the gpu?

brittle tinsel
#
#

It’s not a 3080 but msrp is way out the window

potent portal
#

Yeah, that should be able to do 1440p pretty well and the 3060ti don't have the heat problems that 3070 cards do

brittle tinsel
#

Does the 3080 have heat probs? He is willing to spend more because he wants a high FPS 1440p ultra which is insane imo

potent portal
#

If you want to do high resolution at high fps while streaming (using nvenc I assume) you definitely want a 3080.
They don't have heat problems either. The main issue is half these manufacturers don't put heat pads on their 3070 cards.

brittle tinsel
potent portal
#

No idea, but I've heard of people being in that queue for 3 months or more

brittle tinsel
#

Damnit

#

This has been hell on wheels especially after my pc died, I have no way to work and stock is fighting me off

orchid charm
#

wait the 3070 has heating issues?

potent portal
#

6700xt drops in a couple days, try to get one of those. They're roughly a 3060ti in performance

brittle tinsel
orchid charm
#

same here

#

i have one

#

but i havent had any issues

#

now im concerned

brittle tinsel
#

Been there done that

#

They sick

#

Suck

potent portal
#

Yes, some of the manufacturers like gigabyte didn't put any thermal pads on the vram or vrm

#

AMD drivers have gotten a lot better

autumn wolf
#

vision is the biggest one isnt it?

#

sips bought new thermal pads for it

potent portal
orchid charm
#

has this only affected gigabyte 3070s

#

cause i have an asus one

autumn wolf
#

sips has the vision card and i believe when he did testing it was at like 110c until he replaced the pads and they dropped in temps drastically

potent portal
#

No several others have put none or too few pads on, I'll check if asus is bad

#

Was it the asus tuf model? Looking at a teardown and the pads seem ok

orchid charm
#

yes it is

potent portal
#

You should be fine then

orchid charm
#

good you had me a little worried there

potent portal
brittle tinsel
#

The face when you get “shipment label printed” status for 3 days like damn fedex pick up my package already. Anyone else have this issue recently?

potent portal
#

Shipping services are just bogged down right now. If I order something with 2 day delivery, I get it in 5-6

brittle tinsel
#

Ah

#

Well glad 3 day shipping was free

autumn wolf
#

or when you order something and theres an estimated date and a week goes by after said date and then you contact them and they find out it never made it to you because it got lost within transit somewhere along the way and they never updated you on it. relatable

#

i mean wut

potent portal
#

USPS has a service where if there's a significant delay they can research why and maybe push it along

brittle tinsel
#

The fedex dude in my area is very nice and respectful

#

Although we in the south everyone has respect around here

#

Really

#

Hm I don’t know then, we tip our hats to each other and everything very nice place

#

The only time I’ve had issues is with a 3rd party company they left 4 brand new monitors out in the rain

#

Parcel service of some sort

#

Originally me and my brothers each bought 1 monitor (there was a major flash sale limit of 1 per customer and sorts) then becaus the got left in the rain the company told us to keep em and sent out new ones, turns out they worked, although the bags they were in was filled with water, all we did was let em dry for a week before plugging them in

#

The bag the screen comes in was filled with water I’m legit telling you these monitors were submerged for 2 days

#

Before we found em

#

Under our porch

#

I should probably open em up and check the pcb for water damage

#

Or whatever monitors have

potent portal
#

I used to drive for Amazon, and our bags that the packages get sorted into are always falling apart. If they're newer and don't have tears in them, they're pretty water resistant when zipped up. Problem is, 80% of them are torn. I've gotten bags that sat in the rain for an hour before my shift started, and the ones on the top were halfway filled with water.

pure iron
#

Real talk, anyone have strategies to getting the 6700-xt or is it not even worth trying?

potent portal
#

It's about a 3060ti but without nvenc or dlss. Worth getting if you don't stream or are using a capture card. Basically you're just going to have to pick a website and refresh until it says "in stock"

brittle tinsel
#

This company didn’t use external bags at all, i mean yeah the product was boxed and bagged for shipping but all they did was set it under the porch in the dirt, in a thunder storm and also forged our name that we signed for it (nobody was home that day)

potent portal
#

Gah I hate when they do crap like that. Once they left a package with my neighbor. I've never met this neighbor and didn't know who even signed for it.

#

I had to ask the front office whose name it was

brittle tinsel
#

Yeah, get this though, when we called and were like this package is full of water wtf they were like that’s on you, we have here that you signed for it, we told em to spell the name since we have a weird spelled name and the name signed wasn’t even our proper name lol

#

I do have to give it to office dopot, not only did they give replacements but sent fedex next day shipping

potent portal
#

Even though that's 100% not their fault, they still fixed the problem. Good move on their part.

warm swift
#

@stoic island im about to buy them parts in like 4 hours

#

you told me what from the list i should look out for?

#

SSD and PSU?

stoic island
#

Just psu for pricing

warm swift
stoic island
#

You don't really do anything that would benefit much from it but, if you really want to..?

warm swift
stoic island
#

It's a "better on paper, indistinguishable in reality" thing

warm swift
stoic island
#

Higher seq helps with when you're transferring like 50gb around

#

Which isn't normal

#

:p

warm swift
#

yeahh true

#

but in games, they are both the same right?

#

probably like a 1 second or 2 second difference

#

right?

stoic island
#

Divide that by a hundred and you'll be around where the answer lies

warm swift
#

yeah, i mean im watching some of them Sata vs Nvme videos and they seem to have like a very small difference

#

it depends on the game

#

but from what im seeing its a 0.5, 1, 2 second difference

stoic island
#

Tom's hardware testing:
Ignore optane, that's just completely different, sx8200 pro has schrodinger's nand now, ignore that too, and MX500 is a SATA drive

#

@warm swift ofc games like Rust you might have a few seconds difference, but usually, something 0.1 second for usual game loading

warm swift
stoic island
#

yea

#

in that bench, you can tell the difference between hdd and ssd pretty clearly

warm swift
stoic island
#

:)

warm swift
# stoic island :)

btw i dont know if i asked you this question i forgot, but do you think that the SP120 fans are alright?

stoic island
#

Alright, yes

#

good, dunno

warm swift
#

like do you think they are way worse than LL120 or QL120's?

stoic island
#

I kind of ignore rgb fans

warm swift
# stoic island I kind of ignore rgb fans

i understand but im getting a lian li case so you know i want the stuff in my pc to look good, can i have pc and without any rgb in it and still make it look good? yes, but i prefer the look of RGB

stoic island
#

rgb never comes on top in terms of performance, and I pay attention to the top end in performance

#

it's not bad, but it's not the best

#

:P

warm swift
#

yes ofcourse

#

you are spitting some facts

#

but i guess i cant really have the best best you know?

stoic island
#

heh

warm swift
# stoic island heh

but like do you know the difference between an SP120 and LL120 other than the RGB?

stoic island
#

maybe they're not maglev, I don't know

warm swift
#

alright then, well thank you so much, i will buy them parts in like 2 hours or something so cant wait

stoic island
#

:)

lyric crag
#

Ek is getting on my last nerve

wicked frigate
#

Hey I have a new psu what at do I mount it like the fan

#

Does it go up or down

#

cause my other psu didn’t have an fab

#

Fan

fossil cedar
#

Fan down unless you're putting pc on carpet

wicked frigate
#

K

still roostBOT
#
FlowerHill#4160 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

nova spruce
#

really???

#

Any opinions on pre-builts? Im kinda leaning towards the idea of something showing up and me not having to mess with anything - just plug it in and press the power button.

fossil cedar
nova spruce
#

im looking at 2500 for a r9 5900x, gigabyte x470 mobo, 6800xt, 16gb 3200mhz ram, and suitable psu, case, cooler, etc.. sound decent?

#

ofc....all gpus are on backorder

#

unless you win shuffle

blazing aurora
#

not really

#

2.5k is a lot for that

#

oh did you mean in a prebuilt or a regular build?

nova spruce
#

prebuilt

blazing aurora
#

ah okay

#

yeah 2.5k is a lot for those specs

lament copper
#

Good morning everyone. Totally new when it comes to computers. I use my work issued one for most things. It is not good enough to run diablo 2 resurrected. It’s going to be the main game I play. Would it be better to build a pc or get a gaming laptop. Trying to spend $1000 or less if possible.

blazing aurora
#

especially considering prebuilts often cheap out on core components

nova spruce
#

i mean- if i could click faster tha a bot and even get anything - gpu or cpu, itd be a different conversation

blazing aurora
#

for $1000 you could go with either one (for diablo) and not be disappointed, iirc diablo isn't a super intense game

blazing aurora