#building-and-recc-chat

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muted patio
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Ah kk

rancid lodge
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I cleaned it and put MX4 on it

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could I just take the pump off and put a little bit more paste on it, then slap it back on the processor?

potent portal
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If you have more paste then you can find out if you used too little by taking off the block and seeing how far the paste spread

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If you take the block off though, you'll need to totally clean and re-paste everything

rancid lodge
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mmmm that doesn't sound fun

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but actually, my idle temps are getting slightly better now

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it hit higher than usual when I turned it back on

potent portal
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It's the same as you did already, taking the stock paste off to replace it

rancid lodge
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but now it's around 35-38C

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yeah I just ran out of isopropyl

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there wasn't much left

muted patio
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Honestly, I wouldn't worry about idle temps a whole lot. Load temps are what really matters. 35-38C seems perfectly resonable to me

potent portal
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Boot temp might be a bit higher than real idle temp, that's normal

rancid lodge
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yeah I think it's good

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rn it's sitting at 37-38 and the min has been 35 so

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I think it's slightly better

ivory cosmos
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so im having issues with ramm, it works on my old z270 board with a i5 7600k, but doesn't on my new b450 mobo with a 3700x,

fossil cedar
potent portal
fossil cedar
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just saw that

pine stone
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How’s that pre build pc ? Want to build one but not finding a good gpu

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Or this one?

potent portal
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The first one is a tad overpriced, but I've seen much worse.
The second one is laughable. The 3400G was bad even when it launched.

fossil cedar
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The first one is decent tho

sharp tundra
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Well, I still can't get my Xbox to show a post, it boots and works, I was actually able to factory reset it from the troubleshooter, but I was blind doing it. Even after that it's still not showing video.

sharp tundra
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For $250? No ty

potent portal
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It's an older one x model

sharp tundra
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I'm trying to get rid of it so I can have a little extra money, I don't play it so I figured I'd sell it

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Then when I go to turn it on and get it ready to sell, I find out it won't post.

potent portal
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Probably dead video card or output jack from the sound of it.
You can still sell it, just as a "for parts" listing and not "used".

fossil cedar
sharp tundra
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But then I'd only get like $30 for it

potent portal
fossil cedar
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True

sharp tundra
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Like my Xbox one is older than this thing and still perfectly fine. I just don't understand why this one X is having trouble

fossil cedar
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Like are you supposed to call it series's r sum ffs

earnest olive
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the prebuilt there is bad

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but the 3400G itself is a great product

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i've done multiple 3400G builds for customers and it's truly incredible what you can do on them

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it doesn't make any sense to pair with a dgpu though

desert gulch
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Yeah 3400g great for budget

potent portal
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We can agree on that at least, it's decent as an APU but not if you're only using it as a processor

earnest olive
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oh yeah it is absolutely garbage value as a cpu

lyric thistle
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3100 is the better option in that case

earnest olive
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i3-10100f laughs it out of the room

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the 3100 hasn't been an option in a very long time

lyric thistle
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How so

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You can buy it can't you

earnest olive
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it hasn't been at the $100 price point for more than 3 months

lyric thistle
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It's not like the 3300X where it actually doesn't exist

earnest olive
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the cheapest 3100 has been hovering around $180 for many months now

lyric thistle
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I swear I've seen them at like 110 or 120

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Not too long ago

earnest olive
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i mean you can look at pcpartpicker price history

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but why buy the 3100 for 120 when you can get a 10400f for 110 now

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lol

desert gulch
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1600AF was good when it was hecka cheap at like 90 bucks

earnest olive
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$110 10400f + b560 mobo is the new value king

desert gulch
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Mhmm

earnest olive
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ryzen as a value option is long gone

desert gulch
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Sips you remember the days when the 1600AF was a super pog deal?

earnest olive
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yeah

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i bought one

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at $85

potent portal
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At least until the 5000s have lower sku parts available

desert gulch
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Nice

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Yeah for 85 bucks you couldn't beat it

earnest olive
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i really don't see anything from ryzen 5000 presenting a better value than a 10400f at $110 tbh

desert gulch
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Yeah

earnest olive
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their 6 core is at $300

potent portal
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I want to see what a r3 5300 would do

desert gulch
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8 core is 450

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So meh

earnest olive
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8 core chiplets on a mature process

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unlikely that they will make any zen 3 quad cores

potent portal
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Well we can look forward to 5700X at some point at least, probably just taking the low bin 5800X parts

earnest olive
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the number of chiplets that are 50% failed is bound to be almost nothing

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and if they ever do make it i doubt it will ever sell in the west

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like how 3300X showed up in india/asia but not in the west

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i kind of think amd is just wanting zen 2 to be the budget zen 3 instead of actually making budget zen 3

rich helm
earnest olive
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they don't have to

fossil cedar
earnest olive
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they sell everything they can make

potent portal
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That wouldn't be the worst strategy tbh with all the used parts available

earnest olive
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so where is the incentive to drop prices on zen 2

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rabid amd fanboys will eat up $200 r5 3600s all day long

rich helm
earnest olive
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keeping prices the same is just a smart business move

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amd mindshare has gotten to the point where demand is highly inelastic

rich helm
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Call you intel simp if you recommend 10400f + b560

earnest olive
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i just did a 10400f + b560 build for my gf

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better performance than the 3600 but the cpu and board together cost as much as the 3600 alone

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lol

fossil cedar
earnest olive
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paired it with 3600c16 micron rev e

rich helm
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😦

earnest olive
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10400f with 3600c16 beats 3600 with 3600c16 by a pretty decent margin

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$110 cpu and $105 board lol

rich helm
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Nice

earnest olive
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could have gotten a cheaper board too but wanted to spend money on looks

earnest olive
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asrock b560m pro4/ac

rich helm
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Oh nice

earnest olive
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really nice budget board

rich helm
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There’s something cheaper than that?

earnest olive
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got plenty of fan headers, built in wifi and bluetooth, lots of rgb support

rich helm
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There isn’t a ds3h b560 is there

earnest olive
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yeah there's a $75 b560 board but it's a lot more basic

rich helm
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Oh the hdv

earnest olive
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there is but it doesn't seem to be in stock rn

rich helm
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That’s right

sharp tundra
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Anyone know how to take off the heat spreader on the xbox one x?

stoic island
autumn wolf
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WHERE >_>

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to where do i find this $110 10400f, asking for a friend quite literally

earnest olive
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microcenter

autumn wolf
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$130 unless you buy with mobo

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whelp

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time to see if microcenter has mobo for build

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reeeee, the micro center near me barely has mobo's in stock

brittle tinsel
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Does a mobo with only 2 dimm slots mean single channel?

sharp tundra
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Welp, I think I just damaged a trace on my Xbox mobo

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Hey, is this water damage?

brittle tinsel
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Whatever it is looks sticky to me

sharp tundra
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Thas what I was thinking, it looks like something was spilled in it

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But it's not sticky

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And its only on the bottom of the pcb

gusty abyss
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looks like ligma

sharp tundra
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Yup

stoic island
sharp tundra
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Hey look, sk hynix ram

stoic island
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E nand

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Eat the nand

autumn wolf
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whelp, guess im going on smol road trip with friends to micro center

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$110 10400f here we come

sharp tundra
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Well, I think my only choice is to sell this Xbox for parts, it has no video output, and I'm not paying $250 to have it fixed, when I'm only going to be able to sell it for $250 anyways.

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I might keep the hard drive

austere wagon
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The dudes video says yessir ski I feel called upon lmao

pine stone
fossil cedar
austere vale
sharp tundra
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It's kinda milky, someone it wipes off, some of it doesn't, and it's not sticky.

austere vale
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sounds more like corrosion

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alternatively, some of it might be residue from flux, do you know if anyone else has worked on it before?

sharp tundra
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Warranty seal was still on it before I opened it up

austere vale
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You could try using IPA and spraying down the area then scrubbing it with a plastic brush to clean it off and check your connections

sharp tundra
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I damaged a trace anyways, trying to get the heat spreader bracket off, and I still have a problem with no video output

austere vale
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oh, in that case not worth your time unless you are really confident you can fix all of that lol

sharp tundra
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Not at all, there's no other visual damage to the board except for that trace I damaged and possibly whatever the residue is.

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Amd one of those wasn't there before opening it

austere vale
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lol

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scrap it for what you can > enjoy some money and less headache > win

sharp tundra
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Is there anything you know of from it that I could make more money selling it separately than just selling the whole system for parts?

granite linden
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I've got a question since I'm not the greatest at getting real low budget parts, I've got about $500-550 for every other part except graphics card, got a 2080 ti Kingpin from a friend for cheap.

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Doesn't have to fully utilize the cards' capabilities, just something to have until I can upgrade other parts.

sharp tundra
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Oh, nvm

granite linden
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Cheaper than the $1900 price tag I would have had to pay lol

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More than half off

sharp tundra
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How much?

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Eh, doesn't matter really, so are you saying you got $500 per part? Or for the rest of the parts you need?

stoic island
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guessing everything else

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can get a pretty decent build, brb

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o no

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mx330-g air and neo air both oos

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what am I to do :(

sharp tundra
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Get both

stoic island
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out of stock

sharp tundra
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Oh, I dum

stoic island
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good start

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Segotep PSU is less scary than it sounds

granite linden
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Thanks sir communist

sharp tundra
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CPU BN?

stoic island
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cpu bn?

sharp tundra
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Bottleneck

stoic island
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10400f is gonna do just fine with 2080ti

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and bottleneck wack word

sharp tundra
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Okee

granite linden
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I can upgrade everything else later lol

stoic island
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remember, this is with b560 with full ram speeds

sharp tundra
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I honestly wish I had a 2080ti just to say I have one

granite linden
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Just need something to literally hold the 2080 until I can afford better

stoic island
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yea that build will last you xD

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well, other than the mobo

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would rather have better mobo but

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good nuff for now

sharp tundra
stoic island
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wat

granite linden
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That man isn't that stupid

sharp tundra
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Huh?

granite linden
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He wouldn't sell it for $400

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That's wild

stoic island
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do keep in mind 2080ti = 3070 perf nomad

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not 400$

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500$ at least

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esp with extra vram

sharp tundra
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Yeah, that's what I'm saying

granite linden
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Not just any 2080 to either tho

stoic island
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400$ is way too much of a lowball

granite linden
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*ti

stoic island
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KP doesn't mean much perf wise really, just great card for OC :P

granite linden
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Man payed $1900

stoic island
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I'd personally value it at somewhere around 700-800$ right now

sharp tundra
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But he could've gotten better instead of a 2080ti if he paid anymore than $500

granite linden
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He's not doing 400

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Check literally anywhere they're still charging above $1k for it

sharp tundra
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But a 3070 is $500 for better/equal

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Thats what I'm getting at

stoic island
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Keep in mind, RTX 3070 performs basically at the same level as 2080ti, and 3070 sells at 500$ MSRP

sharp tundra
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Yes

stoic island
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So the price goes somewhere between 2080ti MSRP and 3070 MSRP

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I say 700-800$

sharp tundra
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That is literally what I'm saying

stoic island
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(I'm valuing it higher for shortage pricing and for being KP)

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But also a bit of the value is taken off for being used

sharp tundra
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I mean, I would've waited for a 3080 if I was paying that much

stoic island
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Yes, but I'm just talking value of the 2080ti

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I would rather get a 3080 but annoying

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KP is stronk

sharp tundra
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But would it be worth that huge increase in performance for the same value?

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Yes, even if it meant waiting to get one

stoic island
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Yes, but it sounds like they already have the card, so good nuff, and KP can justify some of the price for being KP

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as long as it was bought below 1000$ it's fine

granite linden
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Indeed it was

stoic island
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below 800$ it's reasonable

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below 600$ is good

sharp tundra
granite linden
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I don't have the luxury of living close to them

stoic island
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anyways, point is, I gave build that can probably last you a while, good nuff

sharp tundra
stoic island
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decisions that have already been made have already been made

granite linden
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Shilling costs

stoic island
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:P

granite linden
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*shipping

sharp tundra
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It's like $10 for shipping

stoic island
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depends heavily on locations

granite linden
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^

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It do be doin that

stoic island
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but it's just very annoying

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having to wait weeks upon weeks

sharp tundra
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USPS flat rate boxes

stoic island
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for shipping, confirmation of return, confirmation of money back, etc.

sharp tundra
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Anything in them for a standard price

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If it fits it ships

stoic island
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and usps slow

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Say from one coast to the other, prob 2 weeks

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If the purchase has already been done, good nuff, it was <1000$, so not unlivable

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justify some of the costs with wegg hwbot >:D

sharp tundra
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But money that could've been better spent...😩

stoic island
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(I value my time spent gaming, I'd stay with having a card for two weeks than saving like 200$ :P)

granite linden
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While true I'll have a more stable job by the time I would want to upgrade the graphics card

stoic island
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I'm also lazy

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I'm very lazy

granite linden
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Same

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That's why I didn't wanna have to hunt for a 3080

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When his 2080 ti is right there

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Ripe for shipping

sharp tundra
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You don't hunt, you wait for the next stocking date on best buys website

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Easy peasy

granite linden
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Which sell out in minutes to scalpers and people who just want the card

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Don't have that kind of patience

sharp tundra
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Be quick

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Gotta be faster than than those people

granite linden
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Lazy

sharp tundra
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Then you don't want a 3080 that bad

granite linden
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That's true

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Would rather have a 6800

potent portal
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Wait for the Linus Tech Tips "verified actual gamer" program to launch next week

granite linden
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The what

sharp tundra
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Ngl, 2080ti is still a great card, but I just can't get past spending money on one when there is WAY better out there.

potent portal
sharp tundra
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3080 puts 2080ti in the dirt

granite linden
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Would rather have 6000 series

sharp tundra
potent portal
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They've got pallets of these parts they're going to be selling at msrp to people they verify are actually going to use them and not scalp them

sharp tundra
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Oh, cool

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I might have to check it out

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Do I have to sign up for it?

potent portal
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Watch the LTT twitter page, or other media, for more info, but yes you'll need to sign up and submit some sort of info to verify yourself as a gamer

sharp tundra
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Cause I really wanna get my 3080 out of the way before I actually have to TRY and get one

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Give em my steam code

potent portal
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Yeah that would be the easiest way, but they're being pretty quiet about details and we don't even know what or how much they have

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Future videos will have more info

sharp tundra
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As long as they have a FE3080 for me, I'll be happy

potent portal
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You'll just need to pay for shipping (consider that I think they're based in Canada?) but that shouldn't be too much and will still save you money in the end

sharp tundra
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US mate

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But I get you

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Shipping from US to Canada isn't too bad from what I've heard

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I mean I've paid for shipping from China before and it was still pretty cheap

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Even though it took 2 months for what I ordered to get to me

potent portal
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Yep Canada customs aren't as bad as say, the Middle East or Asia. Should only be about $15 tops going from CA to US.

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Plus shipping though

sharp tundra
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So are all these parts LMG is selling Used inventory or brand new?

potent portal
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New from the look of it, no way they used at least 3 pallets worth of parts already

sharp tundra
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Well, any PCs that Linus builds and doesn't give away or has a purpose for gets put back into the warehouse

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In case you didn't know

potent portal
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Yeah but hundreds of GPUs and CPUs? Not likely they're used.

sharp tundra
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Yeah, true

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Maybe manufacturers are tired of scalpers too, so the gave LMG a bunch of stuff to sell to people who ACTUALLY need them.

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Cause I mean, if someone was making more money than I was off my own product, I'd be pretty pissed

potent portal
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From the way they were talking about it on their video, I think that's exactly how it's working

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They have a pretty decent relationship with most of these companies

sharp tundra
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Except maybe Nvidia, since Linus spoke some pretty harsh truth about them

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About how Nvidia doesn't care about gamers

granite linden
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Hard to be mad when someone speaks facts 🤓

potent portal
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Doesn't stop some people from lashing out though. Human nature, we hate to admit any faults.

desert scarab
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Yoo

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falll

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I need help

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@potent portal

potent portal
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What's the problem?

desert scarab
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I’m so close to finishing

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What I do w this

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Those

sharp tundra
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Do you have a Sata drive?

desert scarab
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uhhh do I need it?

potent portal
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Or molex fans?

desert scarab
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Yes I have moles fans

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Moles

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I don’t have enough space on mobo

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For the 3 pins

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So I might need the molex

sharp tundra
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Yup

potent portal
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You can use it to power the fans but they'll run 100% speed

desert scarab
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I mean that sucks but I have to

sharp tundra
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Could always get a PWM splitter

desert scarab
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Wait couldn’t I just keep extending it

potent portal
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True, splitters work too. 2 fans per header is usually safe.

desert scarab
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Like with a 3 pin connected connect the other fan to the molex it has

potent portal
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You know, I've never tried doing that. I'd be afraid to try tbh.

desert scarab
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Like molex to the molex that the other fan is powered to

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Which is powered by 3 pin

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@potent portal

potent portal
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I'm looking whether that would work, hang on

sharp tundra
potent portal
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Connecting one fan to a motherboard header, and connecting another fan to that one using the attached molex plug

desert scarab
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Yeah

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Daisy chaining

sharp tundra
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Wait, why his mobo only have 1 pwm header?

desert scarab
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It doesn’t

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It has like 3 or 4 I think

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But I have 5 fans

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lol

sharp tundra
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Oh, I would say just order 1 PWM splitter

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Make ur life simple

desert scarab
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oh okay

potent portal
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That's the safe route, yes

desert scarab
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Also

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I have 2 PCI E

potent portal
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But now I'm curious if it would work

desert scarab
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do I just leave other one

potent portal
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Yeah just leave the extra disconnected

desert scarab
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My gpu only needed 1

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Ok

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ALSOO

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Do I need the SATA

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?

sharp tundra
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If ur psu is modular, unplug the one you Dont need

potent portal
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Probably not, unless you have a sata drive

desert scarab
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I do have a sata drive

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It came with the case

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It’s just hanging there

sharp tundra
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Huh?

desert scarab
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Don’t know if I should plug it

muted patio
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Drives don't come with the cases

sharp tundra
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Cases don't come with drives

desert scarab
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that

sharp tundra
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Bruh

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That's front io power

desert scarab
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?

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bro

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I gotta plug that?

sharp tundra
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Just plug it in

potent portal
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RGB on the front of the case or something?

desert scarab
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Into what

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??

potent portal
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Sata power

sharp tundra
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Into a sata power

desert scarab
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Ok got it

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Now

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Another question

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These cords came w case

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I have no idea what they are

potent portal
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Fan hub possibly

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What case was it?

little osprey
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Hey guys

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Can anyone help with a 1k Usd pc build? I need a monitor, kb and mouse inc

sharp tundra
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Yeah, hold up

little osprey
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1k is my balance after taking tax rates into consideration

desert scarab
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Oh it was the

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Metallic Gear Neo air

sharp tundra
little osprey
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bet bro

desert scarab
little osprey
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#1 doctor

desert scarab
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facts

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@sharp tundra u found it?

sharp tundra
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Find what?

desert scarab
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U asked for the case

sharp tundra
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No Fal cie did

desert scarab
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oh my

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Bad

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@potent portal

sharp tundra
little osprey
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ty

sharp tundra
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Np

little osprey
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wow dude

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so it is possible

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I can sneak a 3060 ti into the budget

sharp tundra
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Yup

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3060 ti pretty gucci

muted patio
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can get it all the way under $1000 with an ID cooling cooler instead of the crappy 212. XD

little osprey
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so bro how does the 10400f even work

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cause like it aint oclockable

scenic turret
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Its fine for B560 motherboard

sharp tundra
scenic turret
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Also white ballistics 3000mhz were cheaper as well

little osprey
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can a 560 mobo run 3600 ram

scenic turret
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Nope

little osprey
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cause the crucial rgb 3600 ram is only like 20 bucks more

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ah

muted patio
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It can

scenic turret
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Oh it can now???

muted patio
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B560 can

scenic turret
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Interesting

muted patio
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B460 can't

sharp tundra
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Not really necessary

desert scarab
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ayo

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yalll know what this is? 😭

potent portal
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I think they're the RGB for the front fans

desert scarab
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do I plug em into mobo?

little osprey
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can confirm a b560 mobo can run ram up to speeds of 3400

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4800*

desert scarab
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I have b460

muted patio
scenic turret
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Ok B560 now appealing

sharp tundra
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@little osprey here's an update list, since vintage made fun of my choice of coolerhttps://pcpartpicker.com/list/LrzXBc

potent portal
muted patio
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It's overpriced for what it can do now

desert scarab
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brooo

little osprey
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Bet tysm

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yo should I get a 1440p monitor or 1080p as the build has a 3060 ti

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im playing games like cold war, val, csgo and stuff

sharp tundra
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1440p, 75hz-144hz

little osprey
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kk thats what i was thinking

desert scarab
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Ayo

sharp tundra
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You can always upgrade gpu in the future

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But at least you'll have the platform to be able to actually play with good graphics.

desert scarab
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Also what’s that

muted patio
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And always run the 1440p monitor at 1080p

muted patio
desert scarab
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I plug it into??

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Mobo

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Right?

potent portal
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yes

scenic turret
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Make sure its the 4 pin slot

potent portal
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Into the RGB 12v header

desert scarab
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that lights up the front fans?

scenic turret
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not 3 pin

potent portal
#

Yeah it looks like the fans must have included the adapter

desert scarab
#

So I’d plug it into??

#

Which

scenic turret
#

#6

#

Top right corner

sharp tundra
#

Yay, my FO4 installation is almost done

desert scarab
#

Okayy

muted patio
#

Also bottom left, #25

desert scarab
#

Yes brooo I’m almost don’t

#

One more part

#

Just what are these tho

#

Do I leave em hanging?

little osprey
#

So if i wanted to add rgb black fans to my build how many and what type should I add

potent portal
#

Those are the RGB headers coming from the fans, which connect to the adapter, which connects to the motherboard

#

It looks like they left loose cables if you got more fans that fit

sharp tundra
desert scarab
#

Wait so how would I connect them tho?

#

Doesn’t look compatible

little osprey
#

should I just upgrade my case to a 4000x which comes with 3 rgb fans in em

potent portal
#

It appears to be connected already to the adapter

little osprey
#

it would cost me 100 to upgrade that

desert scarab
#

OHH

#

okay

sharp tundra
desert scarab
#

So then just plug in the adapter

scenic turret
little osprey
#

Do you reccomend going for a 4000x icue instead

scenic turret
#

Depends if you want to spend that much more

desert scarab
potent portal
#

Just the adapter, it looks connected already to the fans

sharp tundra
desert scarab
#

Ok

#

Hopefully is did everything right and it doesn’t blow up 😩

little osprey
#

I mean i can mine with my 3060 ti to make my money back

desert scarab
#

ima clean everything and turn the power on

#

Gotta fix the cords

potent portal
desert scarab
#

ok

#

ALSO

#

what does says do

#

Sata

sharp tundra
#

It's really just how data is transferred

potent portal
#

I'm assuming supplemental power if the header isn't enough, you might not need it after all

sharp tundra
#

Nvme is faster than sata

desert scarab
#

Like the driven

muted patio
desert scarab
#

Drive?

sharp tundra
#

And sata 6.0 is faster than 3.0

muted patio
#

wat

little osprey
scenic turret
little osprey
#

it will

potent portal
#

The sata power connector you were talking about before, I think it's for extra RGB power and you might not need it

muted patio
desert scarab
sharp tundra
little osprey
#

that isnt even bad

desert scarab
#

I plugged that correctly right?

muted patio
#

Considering everything changing really soon, don't count on mining

#

That's all

desert scarab
#

The front power

little osprey
#

totally agree bro

#

id never count on mining cause crypto is kinda a new thing

sharp tundra
#

Oh it's not new

#

It's just in boom

potent portal
desert scarab
#

the front power connects to the mobo

#

Or psu

potent portal
#

The adapter we were talking about before goes to motherboard, that power connector goes to PSU

sharp tundra
muted patio
#

Sata III is 6 gpbs

potent portal
#

Sata 2 is 3 gbps

muted patio
#

There is no Sata 6.0 tho

#

Just checking......

potent portal
#

Won't even be a sata 4, it's getting phased out

desert scarab
#

What power connector?

sharp tundra
#

Oh, I meant 6.0 as like 6gbps

desert scarab
#

The one I showed u plugged right?

muted patio
#

Gotcha

desert scarab
#

@potent portal

muted patio
#

They don't even make SATA II drives anymore do they?

potent portal
sharp tundra
#

Didn't realize they had generations lol

potent portal
muted patio
#

INteresting, thought all that stuff would be used by now

sharp tundra
#

Would that be stuff like 2.5" hdds and stuff?

potent portal
#

Right. There's tons on Amazon

sharp tundra
#

Does WD make portable SSDs?

#

Specifically Black

potent portal
muted patio
#

Ah, playstation HD

lyric thistle
#

If a SATA 3 drive doesn't go above SATA 2 speeds, can you use it in a 2 port and get the same speed, or does it slow down a bit?

muted patio
#

Sata II port limits the speed

lyric thistle
#

Wow 16mb cache

potent portal
#

PS3/PS4 are limited to sata 2 interface

muted patio
#

So it will only run as fast as the SATA II bus lets it

sharp tundra
#

My Xbox had this in it

lyric thistle
#

Yes but if the drive only goes 170MB/s max there won't be any change between a 3 or 2 port will there?

sharp tundra
#

Crap, bad photo

potent portal
little osprey
#

yo

sharp tundra
#

Thas hdd

potent portal
#

d'oh

little osprey
#

any recommendations for keyboards, mice and headsets?

granite linden
#

Depends on budget

sharp tundra
little osprey
#

yea man

little osprey
#

I need it all

#

im using a mac atm xd

sharp tundra
#

Still a HDD

lyric thistle
#

Ah ok

sharp tundra
#

Wait, it says SSD and HDD, which is it?

potent portal
sharp tundra
potent portal
sharp tundra
#

Okay, that title is mind effery

potent portal
#

Amazon titles tend to be that way

lyric thistle
#

Amazon is always on illicit substances

potent portal
#

All about keyword spamming

sharp tundra
#

Breh, $750 for a 4tb WD_BLACK SSD

#

Why?!?!

lyric thistle
#

Lol

potent portal
#

Paying for the name for one

muted patio
#

NAND still expensive

sharp tundra
#

Better be an SN850 in that B is all I'm saying

potent portal
#

WD Black used to be the only good choice for gamers back before SSD days with their 10k rpm drives

#

Sequentials 3000/2500MB/s over thunderbolt

desert scarab
#

Yo @potent portal

sharp tundra
#

Lol

desert scarab
#

Came with mobo

#

What do I do w it

sharp tundra
#

Not needed

potent portal
#

Set it aside

sharp tundra
#

It's for sata data

#

I like the exposes chrome pliers you got there

desert scarab
#

Uhhh

#

But this says sata

sharp tundra
#

That's sata power

#

Plug it in

desert scarab
#

To psu rifht?

sharp tundra
#

Yup

#

I can't wait for starlink to come to my area, my internet is way too damm slow

#

I've been waiting 30minutea for this game to download 500MBs

little osprey
#

yo

#

Nomad

#

can you help me make a pc build that has peripherals included

#

for 1100 Usd

#

everything that u need

sharp tundra
#

Oh boi

little osprey
#

ik xd

balmy patio
#

@little osprey to make the part listing easier, can you tell us how much you're investing in peripherals and how much on the actual pc?

little osprey
#

idk about that just my total budget is 1100usd

sharp tundra
#

I'm not too familiar with peripherals

little osprey
#

i

balmy patio
#

same

sharp tundra
#

I only buy corsair peripherals

little osprey
#

id prefer a 1080p monitor 144hz

#

ok how about pc w monitor for 900

balmy patio
sharp tundra
#

And they're not really "cheap"

sharp tundra
#

Cause cprsair has a really good lighting software

balmy patio
#

but it's big money smh

sharp tundra
#

It's not cheap, that's for sure

balmy patio
#

give em a budget and they'll recommend you sum

sharp tundra
#

And also, I just like corsair cause they make literally every pc thing you can think of short of mobos, gpus, and CPUs

#

They even have a chair

#

No RGB tho

#

Unfortunately

potent portal
#

I've seen RGB mouse pads from them

balmy patio
#

rgb headphone stand

sharp tundra
#

Yup

#

Qi charging mouse pad too

#

Oh they also have RGB poles

#

That's all the are

#

Standing rgb lights

autumn wolf
#

that can double as a rgb headstand

#

cause they have a bracket thing for it

sharp tundra
#

Well, that's what the rgb headstand is for

autumn wolf
#

or the light stand that doubles as a headphone holder

#

lol

sharp tundra
#

And that's a little ugly too

autumn wolf
#

instead of spending money on the headstand

desert scarab
#

Ayo do power supplies just come w double everything?

autumn wolf
#

no

sharp tundra
desert scarab
#

I have 2 cpu cords

#

Tho

#

😐

autumn wolf
#

2 cpu cables vs double everything

#

theres a difference in what you said

desert scarab
#

No

#

And 2 PCI E

sharp tundra
#

2 pcie is common

desert scarab
#

And 4 like fan cords

autumn wolf
#

again, theres a difference in what you said of double everything and double cpu/gpu

desert scarab
#

how?

potent portal
#

When I read "RGB poles" my mind went a totally different direction

autumn wolf
#

depending on the psu itll accommodate for a certain number of stuff

sharp tundra
#

Also, you saying you ha e 2 24pin power connectors?

desert scarab
#

yea

sharp tundra
#

Or 2 8 pin CPU connectors?

desert scarab
#

No

#

the long one is 24

sharp tundra
#

And you have 2 of them?

desert scarab
#

Ye

#

A

sharp tundra
#

Tf type of PSU you have?

desert scarab
#

best one 🥱🥱🥱

sharp tundra
#

AX1600i?

lyric thistle
sharp tundra
#

Doubt it

desert scarab
#

ofc

#

🥱

autumn wolf
sharp tundra
desert scarab
autumn wolf
#

wish corsair didnt have that light bar or at least make it an actual light bar instead of what it is now

sharp tundra
#

I kinda like it

#

Put one on each side of your monitor

#

PrO gAmEr

desert scarab
#

easy cable management

#

🥱

autumn wolf
#

eh, depending on the setup theyre nice but i wouldve liked an actual light bar or "rgb pole"

#

like this from corsair or something

sharp tundra
#

Shuv n' cuv

desert scarab
#

pretty sure that’s a lightsaber

sharp tundra
#

That's what I call it

autumn wolf
#

i wouldve preferred something like that over what they have now

sharp tundra
autumn wolf
#

wdym, he threw his off a cliff kekw

little osprey
#

yo

sharp tundra
#

Ye

little osprey
#

so my budget for my pc after figuring out my monitor and peripherals is 800

sharp tundra
#

Oof

little osprey
#

800 after taxes usd

#

I can still get a good rig with that buying stuff at good prices right?

sharp tundra
#

Um, very budget build

#

I'll let someone else help you with that, cause others are better at min maxing than me

potent portal
#

NGL you might be better off looking at consoles at that range... especially with how GPUs are right now

little osprey
#

aight bet

#

I have a console

sharp tundra
#

Xbox series X

little osprey
#

I got one bro

sharp tundra
#

Oh

#

Then save yo money

little osprey
#

but I need a pc

sharp tundra
#

Wait till you got bigger budget bro

little osprey
#

how much is optimal for a good solid pc

sharp tundra
#

$1500 will get you a good pc

little osprey
#

Like ideally i want a rgb beauty that can run games at 120ish frames on 1440p

sharp tundra
#

And I mean like GOOD

potent portal
#

Series x will do almost everything a PC will do
$1200 is doable but GPU market be crazy

little osprey
#

I can get a 3060ti at msrp

#

I know how to snipe 😄

#

aight then i might just wait

sharp tundra
#

Save your money

#

Till you can get something better

little osprey
#

especially considering intel next gen cpus it may be worth the wait

potent portal
#

Well that 3060ti is over half your budget alone

little osprey
#

Lmao

#

yea on a 800 pc i wouldnt get a 3060 ti

sharp tundra
#

And the cheapest good cpu is $150

#

That would only leave $250 to get everything else

little osprey
#

thats arguable cause the i3 10100 is like 100 if u get a bundle

#

lol

potent portal
#

If you know where to look (microcenter) yes

little osprey
#

yea if im building imma just drive to micro center and get all my stuff

potent portal
#

The problem right now is even GPUs from 5 years ago are selling for $300-600

little osprey
#

ik lmao

sharp tundra
#

Yup, ngl, imma sell my 1660super for $600

little osprey
#

i couldve gottena 3060ti from bestbuy

sharp tundra
#

Lol

little osprey
#

u should do it if u can

#

fr

sharp tundra
#

Oh I can

little osprey
#

and then get a better gpu at msrp

sharp tundra
#

But I want my 3080 first

little osprey
#

make profit and upgrade

autumn wolf
#

also rn i5 10400f is $110 rn when bundle with a mobo insert that yellow smiley face guy with shades and a thumbs up

#

from mc

potent portal
#

10400f is best budget CPU right now

autumn wolf
#

also rn currently especially with the market, trying to build a 1440p machine that can handle 120 or over fps, kinda tough with a $800 budget

little osprey
#

nah nah fr

#

im saying 1080p at 800

#

for 1440p itd be double the price

#

its impossible

sharp tundra
#

SAVE

#

YO

sharp tundra
#

MONEY

autumn wolf
#

1080p 144hz is really doable at $800 if the market wasnt what it is rn

sharp tundra
#

You have a series x right now

potent portal
#

Give it a few months at least, hopefully things start to stabilize

sharp tundra
#

That's a 4k beast

little osprey
#

eh

autumn wolf
#

i wouldnt say all that about the series x

little osprey
#

i dont ave a 4k monitor

#

it is good bro

#

trust

desert gulch
#

4k beast Is iffy

little osprey
#

120fps on 1440p

desert gulch
#

On a series x

sharp tundra
#

What, you guys gonna say PS5 is better,?

little osprey
#

it isnt

desert gulch
#

No

little osprey
#

controller is better tho

desert gulch
#

Not in gaming perf

potent portal
#

4k playable I'd call it, not really a 4k@120

desert gulch
#

Yeah

autumn wolf
#

the consoles are good but the numbers are for advertising, dont mean they can do them constantly or great

little osprey
#

4k @ 120 on series x isnt possible yet

desert gulch
#

But I mean who even plays in 4k

little osprey
#

4k is capped at 60fps

desert gulch
#

1440p is where it's at

little osprey
#

fax

sharp tundra
#

I 4k60high on a 1660super all day, I think a series x can handle it

desert gulch
#

Bruh

#

On like csgo?

sharp tundra
#

No

lyric thistle
#

Minesweeper

little osprey
#

i have a 2013 late 21.5 inch mac so thats my whole idea in upgrading

sharp tundra
#

Lol

little osprey
#

i can trade this in for 500 rn

#

at bestbuy

#

idek how

sharp tundra
#

D2, ED, FH4

#

All of those I can play 4k60

potent portal
#

They give you a gift card but basically up to $450

#

Meaning the stuff that released last year will be the $450

little osprey
#

thats mac book

#

i have a imac

sharp tundra
#

Mac is💩

little osprey
#

ik 😦

sharp tundra
#

I made the switch to Samsung, never going back

little osprey
#

its awful for the price

autumn wolf
#

eh

#

people give macs too much hate

little osprey
#

they r overpriced

autumn wolf
#

consumer wise yeah its bad but depending on your use case scenario

#

theyre pretty good

sharp tundra
little osprey
#

macos software isnt bad for school work but thats really it

autumn wolf
#

well ill take that product cause a imac i used at my school handles what i do for my job a whole lot better than my pc

#

so

little osprey
#

mac is only a desktop usage computer

autumn wolf
#

and the imac at my school was older and not even an imac pro

little osprey
#

yea mac is good for studying nothing like deep learning or gamin

autumn wolf
#

so that toddler toy does a lot better than my pc

little osprey
#

but its still awfully overpriced

sharp tundra
#

Indeed

autumn wolf
#

again, for consumers its crap, depending on the use case scenario, its great

little osprey
#

u can buy a prebuilt for like 500 and run the same performance

potent portal
sharp tundra
little osprey
#

... damn

autumn wolf
#

since for me as a graphic designer, ill gladly spend the extra money on that imac that woks a whole lot better and improves my workflow over my pc that cant handle the same exact program

#

so

#

🤷‍♂️

little osprey
#

u can still build a pc for a better price than an imac

sharp tundra
#

You just have bad pc

little osprey
#

or same price better value

autumn wolf
#

again, consumer wise theyre bad

#

use case scenario, they can be great

potent portal
#

Certainly a PC will have better parts at the same price, with Apple you pay for the software mostly

autumn wolf
#

cause my 9700k 2070super, struggles competing an old imac at my school for graphic design stuff

sharp tundra
#

Mac books are the ONLY think worth buying from apple

#

That's all I'll admit too

autumn wolf
#

eh

#

consumer wise ipads pros imo are the only thing worth buying aside from iphones

#

if new

#

second hand stuff is different

potent portal
#

iPhone is ok for people that don't know phones

sharp tundra
#

But even then, I'm pretty sure my s20+ has more power than a macbook

autumn wolf
#

depending on the macbook and power dont mean everything cause again

#

my 9700k 2070 super struggles competing against an imac

#

lol

#

for my use case

sharp tundra
#

Oh, Surface, there's an option

autumn wolf
#

ipad pro > surface

#

lol

#

m1 macs

#

lol

sharp tundra
#

Tab s7> both

autumn wolf
#

the more new surfaces, eh. still would prefer an ipad pro over it

potent portal
#

lol my mother in law wanted me to pick out a surface for her... and she needed it to be from the M$ store specifically

sharp tundra
#

I'm buying me a galaxy tab s7+ when I get the chance

#

Thing is sweet

desert scarab
#

Yo

#

What’s a driver dvd

potent portal
#

It would have come with your motherboard but some manufacturers don't put them in there any more

#

You can get the latest drivers from the support page of the board manufacturer

muted patio
#

Drivers on the DVD, if included, are guaranteed to be outdated anyway lol

little osprey
#

do you guys think the 11900k will be good

potent portal
#

Hard to tell right now, but the "accidental" early release of the 11700k was uninspiring to me

#

It's still 14nm too lmao

#

Also still only 8 cores

muted patio
#

Funny thing the gate size between intel's 14NM and AMD"s 7 nm are virtually identical

potent portal
#

They did say it was "10nm ported to our 14nm process" in the marketing fluff piece they did

#

I know that the process being half the size doesn't mean half the gate as well

true vortex
#

Are ABS Prebuilts good?

#

I spotted one on Newegg although people seem to have bad experiences with them

potent portal
#

Prebuilts will always have people that had a problem, they're usually a minority unless it's a scummy company, which ABS is not.
Put up a link and we'll tell you if it's a good enough deal to snag one.

potent portal
#

Looks like an ok enough deal to me. 10400f is great value, 1660 super will do pretty well in 1080p and possibly 1440p

true vortex
#

Yeah I'll be playing 1080p

potent portal
#

Putting those parts into a custom build would probably be around $700 on a good month, and right now is definitely not. $900 seems reasonable all things considered.

true vortex
#

alright thanks

#

The build seems fine I'm just scared that I might get defective parts and/or the return process would be a pain

potent portal
#

There's a pretty low chance of defective parts. More likely problems are related to shipping damage or things coming loose in transit. We'll be right here to help troubleshoot if it comes to that.

true vortex
#

Thank you so much, I'm very glad I joined this server, you just released all of my worries lol

#

I'll be ordering later today then (currently 1am)

potent portal
#

No problem, you're actually the second person to ask about ABS tonight even

true vortex
#

😄

desert scarab
#

ahhh @potent portal

#

I need a bit of help

#

I finished the ox

#

Pc

fast trellis
#

im here

#

hello

autumn wolf
#

you should be able to send it in here

fast trellis
#

ummmm

#

look

fast dust
#

good job

#

you completed step 1

ripe wedge
#

Looking and seeing nothing

fast trellis
ripe wedge
#

Uh maybe switch to English first

fast trellis
#

it's win10 single language

fast dust
#

he doesnt know how to

fast trellis
#

i bought it in uruguay

#

it's single language

ripe wedge
fast dust
#

whyd you buy a spanish laptop if you dont speak it

fast trellis
#

i don't own this laptop

ripe wedge
#

Just reinstall Windows

fast trellis
#

it's my cousin laptop

#

ok...... ummmm

ripe wedge
#

When you install Windows there is a language select

fast trellis
#

i can translate

#

don't send messages

desert scarab
#

ayoo

#

So I finished my pc

#

I plugged my keyboard and mouse into the blue USB port

#

And it didn’t work

eager chasm
#

On the front or back?

fast trellis
#

Mouse Properties X

Buttons Configurations

Devices : Synaptics bla bla bla

Right Left

Double Click Speed

Slow -------I------ Fast

Click block

Activate Click Block

                                  Accept     Cancel    Applicate
desert scarab
#

The back

eager chasm
#

Does it post?

ripe wedge
#

Click block?

fast trellis
#

dude i think ill just buy a mouse

desert scarab
#

Post?

ripe wedge
#

Yeah best option

fast trellis
#

but its expensive

ripe wedge
#

Post meaning boot up

fast trellis
#

:((

desert scarab
#

Yeah the mouse

#

🙂

ripe wedge
#

Just buy cheap store mouse from a local store

#

Any Logitech cheap mouse is fine

fast dust
#

any usb mouse should do

desert scarab
#

No the mouse isn’t the problem

eager chasm
fast dust
#

not talking to you lol

fast trellis
#

nope

#

dude

ripe wedge
#

Talking to other guy

fast trellis
#

i live

desert scarab
#

o

fast trellis
#

in BRAZIL

fast dust
#

OK WE HEARD YOU THE FIRST TIME

ripe wedge
#

Brazil still has stores

fast trellis
#

yeah

desert scarab
#

Idk why

fast trellis
#

but not too much tech stores

desert scarab
#

is it bc no driver dvd?

fast trellis
#

becoz we are quite poor

eager chasm
#

Then it doesn't post and something isn't connected or something is broken

#

Or you are using the wrong display out

fast trellis
#

ill try googling itt

potent portal
#

Drivers don't matter until you have Windows installed

fast trellis
#

DUDE

sharp tundra
#

You guys wanna hear some cringe?

#

I named my Fallout character Aorus

#

Lol

lyric thistle
#

Gamer

sharp tundra
#

I love Aorus stuff

#

Looks kewl

#

But I'm a little confused

#

Cause Aorus is a Latin name, meaning "Made of gold"

#

But Aoris doesn't make anything gold

brisk brook
#

Which custom cable should I do for this build

sharp tundra
#

#2

brisk brook
#

Dope, that's been the more popular. I think I'm going that way

sharp tundra
#

DCR the best radio station ever, don't @ me

agile folio
#

can someone make me a build for $600
looking to game on it give or take like $50 on budget

frank stirrup
brittle tinsel
#

Why is black cheaper than blue? I thought black was high tier

vapid bay
brittle tinsel
#

What about?

vapid bay
#

$68.88 $101.49

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that's what a product on sale/discounted looks like