#building-and-recc-chat

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wicked frigate
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@balmy patio if u can, can u post link

balmy patio
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but that doesn't support the sata interface that's on some m.2 ssd's, so make sure if you buy that, you don't buy a m.2 ssd with the sata interface

wicked frigate
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So all I have to do is buy an m.2 and that

balmy patio
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here's a pic so that you see how they're different, the top one has the b+m key, and the bottom one has the m key, top is sata and bottom is nvme

wicked frigate
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Ok

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And where do I put it

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The same place an sound card goes????

balmy patio
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yeah

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a pciex4 slot

wicked frigate
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Ok can I dm u if I need more help

balmy patio
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yeah fs

twilit sun
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I have come with hopes that someone can help me with my pc.
Yesterday my windows claimed the Boot/bcd was missing or corrupt and refused to boot to my m.2, after attempting to fix that via bootable media device then accessing the command prompt. I had no luck. Decided to just reformat and and re-partition my m.2 and do a clean install of windows. Everything went smoothly until II rebooted after reinstalling all myy essentials (discord and steam and league and such.) Upon rebooting I recieved the same exact error that boot/bcd was missing. (error code 0cx000000f). I said F it and decided I was going to go through another reformat/clean install of windows to the m.2. Just before doing so I booted up to my HDD which was my old windows and for whatever reason. It booted my m.2 version of windows. It has everything I installed on it last night. I'm confused as to where my HDD windows went but I don't care a whole lot about it. I'm more so concerned as to why my m.2 version of windows booted up despite me selecting my HDD in my Bios. I want to know if rebooting again will cause some sort of other issue.

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Please ping or DM me if you would like to help. Thanks

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A few things to note, I typed in a few commands to teh command prompt via the bootable media device, those including but not limiited to bootrec /fixmbr. bootrec /fixboot, bcdedit /export c:\bcdbackup, and a few others

wanton cliff
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as for your SSD, sounds like a dying drive or something like that

twilit sun
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my m.2 is new, came in the mail less than 2 weeks ago

muted patio
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Since you have another HDD installed with a working copy of Windows, there are two boot managers installed

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Best practice in that case is to unhook all drives except the one you want Windows installed to when you install it

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complete the Windows installation on the M.2 with the other drive unhooked

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Plug in the other drive, go into the BIOS and make sure the M.2 drive is selected as boot #1

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After that, it should be fine

twilit sun
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This all stemmed from me trying to fix something else. I had my m.2 as boot prio #1. However upon booting up i would get a black screen saying something like "please insert a bootable mediia device, no bootable deviices found"

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however, iif I went to Bios and selected my m.2 manually, it would boot up completely fine

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I wanted to fix this so i went to disk mangement and right clicked my M.2 and "set as active"

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then I got the boot/bcd issue

stoic island
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What about just unplugging the hdd, reset cmos, and clean install windows onto m.2? I feel like part of the problem might be windows thinking the hdd is what you want to boot off of.

twilit sun
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resetting cmos just requires you to take out battery and put it back in correct?

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and I partially don't want to do another clean install of windows as I'd have to reinstall all my essentials with my poor down speed

fair birch
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battery?

muted patio
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Unplug all other drives then install Windows to the M.2

stoic island
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Basically power cycle, the point is to drain the power out so the settings reset, so don't just out and back in

fair birch
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oh its a laptop

stoic island
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What

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@fair birch cmos battery

fair birch
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oh

stoic island
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It's on desktops and laptops

fair birch
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im not very smart lol

twilit sun
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I'm confused. even if my pc was trying to boot to my HDD windows, why would it claim it had a boot/bcd issue iif I had no problems booting to that drive prior to thsi morning

muted patio
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because you have two boot devices

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One is probably Legacy and the other is UEFI

fair birch
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if whatever they say doesnt work put it in rice

muted patio
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I agree, clear CMOS, only M.2 installed

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Then install Windows again

stoic island
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Yea, unplug HDD, clear cmos, windows again is what I'd do

muted patio
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That way there is no confusion on boot records

stoic island
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If you absolutely can't clean install, just unplug HDD, reset cmos, and try booting, at least that

twilit sun
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Do I need to unplug just the sata of the HDD or the power cable as well?

muted patio
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Just the data cable is fine

stoic island
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Might as well both :p

twilit sun
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and other than takiing out and putting back in the Cmos battery, do I do anything else? regarding the Cmos?

stoic island
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But definitely unplug data

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Take it out, press the power button a few times, wait a few minute, put it back in

twilit sun
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Gotcha, as for the clean install of windows. I should, clear the m.2, reformat/re-partition it. then reinstall windows?

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and upon resetting cmos, will I need to change any sort of bios settings after doing so?

muted patio
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Turn XMP back on

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For your ram

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Otherwise, nothing else needed

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Clean and format the drive during the Windows installation process

twilit sun
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Would I need to go into a command prompt to clean it or would I just delete partition, format, then install?

muted patio
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Just do it during the installation

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Clear all the partitions previously created

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Then tell Windows to install to the drive

twilit sun
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Got it, I gotta workout however I will come back with updates

muted patio
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Sounds good

twilit sun
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after installing windows again and installing my essentials, I am good to plug in my other drives?

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when my pc is off ofc

muted patio
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yes

twilit sun
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thanks for all the help friiends

muted patio
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YW

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Keep this as a rule of thumb any time you install windows

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Best to have ONLY the drive you want to install to active/plugged in

brittle tinsel
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Yo vintage

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What is your opinion on msi mag b550 tomahawk?

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I’ve ready a lot of good reviews but some said the audio driver sounds crackly

stoic island
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If you care about audio, get external amp/dac and not use integrated sound chips

brittle tinsel
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The headset I have has a dac but it connects with usb

stoic island
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usb uses it's own thing, sound chip should have no effect on it

brittle tinsel
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The dac does not the headset

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Ok

stoic island
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alc1200 is a fairly competent chip (for integrated chips), but not sure on the isolation

brittle tinsel
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If their audio driver sucks could I install realtek instead?

stoic island
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what

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It should be realtek

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they shouldn't have their own driver

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it's a realtek alc1200 chip

brittle tinsel
stoic island
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please don't say you're going off newegg/amazon customer reviews

brittle tinsel
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Maybe

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It’s newegg

stoic island
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No offense to anyone, but customer reviews are dumb

muted patio
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What does weight have to do with a good or bad mobo

brittle tinsel
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Idk

muted patio
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Onboard audio in general sounds like poo

brittle tinsel
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I was only interested in the audio review part

muted patio
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If your headset has a USB connection, it isn't using onboard

stoic island
brittle tinsel
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It’s a razer kraken tournament v2, it has a little remote control thing that the headset hooks to and then the controller uses usb to plug to the pc, I call it a remote but their website calls it a dac

stoic island
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and I believe the "other boards have better codec" Is referring to costier boards usually having alc1220 over the alc1200 in tomahawk

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being plugged in via usb means there's a dac on there somewhere

brittle tinsel
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Now Toms hardware listed 6 USB ports as a con but why? My old pc that burnt up, had 6 rear io ports as well

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And 3 front panel usbs that quit working a year into use

stoic island
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@brittle tinsel simple answer:
Some people use a LOT

brittle tinsel
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I do too but I have a usb hub

muted patio
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Eh, just get a hub if yo need that many lol

brittle tinsel
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If it didn’t get fried in the surge

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When a psu surges does it kill any usb devices?

stoic island
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Some people don't like USB hubs, I personally don't like them

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It's possible

muted patio
brittle tinsel
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Cause I may have just lost a $100 max

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Mic

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$100 mouse

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$35 mouse pad and $25 keyboard

stoic island
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wait psu surges as in protection pops or

stoic island
brittle tinsel
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This was cheap psu didn’t even have 80+ bronze

brittle tinsel
muted patio
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PSU burned up

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Like, smoke and burn

brittle tinsel
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Big time

stoic island
brittle tinsel
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It blew the wire up

stoic island
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fun

brittle tinsel
stoic island
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anyways basically anything is possible

jagged ember
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Assume total loss

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But test each component to see if it's still functional

brittle tinsel
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I don’t have anything to text each part

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Test

twilit sun
# muted patio yes

Currently in windows setup. After deleting the old partition and clicking next to install. I've been promoted with a windows saying. "The partitions on the disk selected for instillation are not in the recommended order. For additional info about installing to GPT disks go to the microsoft website. Do you want to proceed with the installation?"

muted patio
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Delete all the partitions

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So there's just one showing

twilit sun
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Even the msr?

muted patio
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Yes, ALL the partitions

twilit sun
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Ok

muted patio
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Windows make what it needs during installation

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Also

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Don't use MBR

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use GPT

twilit sun
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I found that out yesterday. Had to use convert gpt in command prompt when trying to fix my issue.

little osprey
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Hey, is this an appropriate place I can ask a quick question or two about sorting something out for my PC? tl;dr I need to get a new motherboard, but hardware isn't my specialty. Trying to figure out what new motherboard can fit in my current case, but the case I have is like over a decade old so I'm not sure how to figure out what can/can't fit.

desert gulch
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what cpu?

twilit sun
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Also restarting cmos fixed another issue. My power button refused to light up and now it lights up again :)

little osprey
desert gulch
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uhh you

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lol all good

little osprey
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I was going to get a new CPU as well since the one I have is discontinued.

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Currently have an Intel i7-2600k

ashen fulcrum
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Would this be a good build? Or will something not fit im not very good at pcs lol

NZXT H510 Compact ATX Mid-Tower
ASUS Prime Z390-A LGA 1151
Intel Core i9 9900K
G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB)
TOPTOWER TOP-800WB 800W
XPG GAMMIX GAMING SSD S11 Pro 1TB
ZOTAC GAMING GeForce RTX 3060

desert gulch
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uhhh

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h510 airflow is meh

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99000k rly isnt a great value atm

ashen fulcrum
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What would you recommend

desert gulch
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budget?

ashen fulcrum
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$1200 maybe

desert gulch
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one sec

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ill grab a list

ashen fulcrum
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Ok

desert gulch
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this is what id do

little osprey
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Motherboard I'm using right now I desperately need to replace is an MS-7756.

I can wait until later since it looks like you're busy. I ain't in no rush. ^_^

desert gulch
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yea imma have class in a few so maybe someone else will swing by and be able to help ya

little osprey
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Cool, cool. Good luck with your classes!

ashen fulcrum
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^

desert gulch
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thx

little osprey
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I'd just use the pc builder, but my case isn't on there and I'm having trouble figuring out what a similar/same size case would be. >_>

desert scarab
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Yo

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This good?

wanton cliff
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change that B460 to a B560 Pro4

desert scarab
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It is

wanton cliff
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spend the extra money on better RAM

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thats a B460

desert scarab
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o

wanton cliff
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whats your budget

desert scarab
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I kinda already bought all the parts

wanton cliff
desert scarab
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My last part which is the mobo comes tmrow

wanton cliff
desert scarab
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My budget was like

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800-900

desert gulch
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still a b550 is cheaper

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if you go matx one

wanton cliff
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thats a 10400f

desert gulch
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like 100 ish bucks i think

wanton cliff
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dummy

desert scarab
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what

wanton cliff
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not a 5600x or whatever

desert scarab
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Is the build good??

wanton cliff
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no

desert gulch
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oops meant b560

wanton cliff
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short answer

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what did you pay for the 1660 super?

desert gulch
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i hope sub 250

rich helm
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Also the gigabyte power supply

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Uh oh

wanton cliff
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at least that one doesnt explode

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afaik

desert gulch
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and msrp w10 key

wanton cliff
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probs hasnt been bought yet

desert gulch
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mp33 too

wanton cliff
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550w psu

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no upgrade room

desert gulch
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a little bit

rich helm
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Cpu

desert gulch
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i could run my sysyem on a 550 esaily

little osprey
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gigabyte PSUs are on dangerous list on tier list lmao

wanton cliff
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not all of them

desert gulch
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mhmm

wanton cliff
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some are A tier

desert gulch
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doubt that one is

little osprey
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i mean pgm

desert gulch
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just bc of price

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way too cheap for a tier

desert gulch
severe axle
desert gulch
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i think itll run at 2666 with an i5

muted patio
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Yes

desert gulch
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vintage what tier is that psu?

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Gigabyte P-B 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply

muted patio
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D

desert gulch
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yikes

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isnt d tier for only igpu system preferrably?

muted patio
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Tier D shouldn't be used at all IMO

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MOst are lacking proper protections

desert gulch
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yeah

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c tier minimum id go on that build

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especially when you can get a setotep for not much more

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segotep is b or a tier?

muted patio
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B

desert gulch
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hmm but still pretty good for a 10400f and 1660s build imo

static ravine
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what tier would a EVGA BA 600w 80+ bronze be

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C tier right?

muted patio
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yes

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Prbs do a Segotep fully modular for the same price

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Tier b

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$72

twilit sun
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bless all of those who helped me

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pc boots straight to m.2

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no problems whatsoever

static ravine
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okay thanks vintage

desert gulch
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niceeee

stoic island
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Segotep sg-g (non mod) is like 50$ for 600w

muted patio
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Glad it worked

twilit sun
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Likewise, I couldn't thank you enough

hollow grail
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i just turned off dms

stoic island
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But it's good

twilit sun
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one of my drives isn't showing up in disk management but I think that's becuase I didn't secure the SATA cable

stoic island
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Might just need to turn it off and plug the sata data cable in again

twilit sun
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installing one more thiing then i'll do that

robust vigil
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$7000 cpu

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Just came out

marsh kiln
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What y'all think of this 1080ti sc2 gpu?

desert gulch
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price?

stoic island
desert gulch
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id pay like 300 rn for a 1080ti

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if market was decent

stoic island
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I'd say 400$ seems reasonable-ish considering the market

desert gulch
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cause a 3060ti is better than a 1080ti

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yeah

marsh kiln
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None right now just looking most are around 400-700

desert gulch
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rn it is

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i wouldnt pay above 400 imo tho

marsh kiln
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But you can get a 1080

desert gulch
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yeah

stoic island
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I'd personally only pay like 300$, but 400$ makes sense for 1080ti atm

desert gulch
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yeah current market

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id just try and grab a 3060ti for like 450

robust vigil
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Oh my newegg it $7000

desert gulch
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5 dollar shipping lol

stoic island
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what

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5500$

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newegg

desert gulch
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same here

marsh kiln
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There is no way I could get a 3060

desert gulch
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shows as 5500

robust vigil
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Yeah i’m .ca not .com

stoic island
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smh

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$ = USD to 99% of people in this discord

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gotta specify cad

desert gulch
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^

robust vigil
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So on my I go to it still 7000

desert gulch
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mr1 be typin an essay over here

stoic island
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CAD ≠ USD

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nah

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just had to find sign

desert gulch
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lol thats what i was gonna say

stoic island
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can't do alt codes on this

desert gulch
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you had to look it up and copy it

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coulda done

muted patio
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®

desert gulch
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CAD Does Not = USD

muted patio
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Says who?

stoic island
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what

muted patio
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Ÿ

stoic island
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I'm talking about alt codes on this laptop

desert gulch
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lol

muted patio
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®

stoic island
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not discord

muted patio
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OH

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XD

desert gulch
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how do you do that vintage

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im on pc lol

muted patio
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Google Alt Codes

stoic island
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I'm pretty sure alt codes are only usable with full keeb

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so

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tkl ftw

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and laptop keeb ftw

desert gulch
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i have a full keeb i think

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has 10 key

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lol it works

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robust vigil
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Nope

desert gulch
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vintage how many do you have memorized?

robust vigil
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Cad difference

muted patio
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2

desert gulch
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oof

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trademark and what else
?

muted patio
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®™

desert gulch
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makes sense

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Σ

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eulers number

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euler sucks

stoic island
desert gulch
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wait thats not eulers number is it

stoic island
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You sure that's not summation symbol?

desert gulch
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it is i think

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sigma too

stoic island
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Yes

desert gulch
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Σ≈eulers number

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lol

desert scarab
desert gulch
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oof

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not terrible in todays market tbh

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was it new?

stoic island
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It's good actually

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Close to msrp

little osprey
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Is this good for my budget build? Budget is 1200 with everything

desert gulch
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id go 10400f or 10600k if you wanna oc

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10400f cheaper but locked to stock speed

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10600k a bit more but able to oc

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but you would need z490 to be able to oc cpu

stoic island
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@little osprey 9600k and b560 is literally incompatible :p
Go for 10400f or 10600k

desert gulch
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mhmm

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but if 10600k you would need z490 to take full advantage of it

stoic island
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Sn550 250gb for 50$... Plz no

desert gulch
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also 212 for 40 is meh

stoic island
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500gb drives are usually just like 60$

desert gulch
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id go se 224 xt at that price

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isnt lpx c die?

stoic island
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Sn550 500gb, helix L, etc

desert gulch
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ive heard lpx was not the best die

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also 90 bucks for 2x8 3200 c16 is overpriced imo

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mr1 isnt silicon power 3200 c16 stuff decent?

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like 70 something bucks for a 2x8 kit

muted patio
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Yes, it's just fine for XMP speeds

desert gulch
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yeah

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what die is lpx vintage?

muted patio
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Can be anything

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especially with loose timings

stoic island
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Lpx is "throw it into a bin and just grab one out" die

desert gulch
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oof

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so you can get unlucky or lucky?

muted patio
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"what do we have in the leftovers bin" die LOL

desert gulch
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lol

desert scarab
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yo I need help w my build

desert gulch
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ok

desert scarab
desert gulch
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get b560

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id get 3200 c16 ram

desert scarab
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Mobo?

desert gulch
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yeah

muted patio
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Just FYI

desert gulch
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b560 mobo

desert scarab
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Anything else?

desert gulch
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b560 will let you run ram faster than 2666 with i5

worn wave
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B560 Pro4

desert gulch
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b460 wont

desert gulch
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3200 c16

desert scarab
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Ooo

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ok I’ll upgrade to that then since I kinda already have the parts

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I’ll upgrade to that soon

desert gulch
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id also get better ssd

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sn750 on sale rn i think

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500gb for like 62 bucks

desert scarab
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Fr?

desert gulch
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biggest issue is that psu

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d tier psu bad bad

stoic island
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@muted patio and broken, just fyi

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Rated ram speeds are wack

desert scarab
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Why’s it bad?

desert gulch
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d tier power supply go boom

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its just not a great one

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doesnt have great protections

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and could damage hardware

muted patio
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Yeah, gigabyte PSU's kinda spoop, specially Tier D

desert scarab
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damn bru

desert gulch
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mhmm

muted patio
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Lasck of protections

desert gulch
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yup

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and value is bad when you can get a segotep b tier one for not much more

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another thing is the windows key

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you can get a pro key for a few bucks on ebay

desert scarab
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I got a windows key for 9 dollars

desert gulch
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ok good

desert scarab
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dw

wanton cliff
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

desert gulch
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lol ive never dmed you anything useful

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just memes and stuff

wanton cliff
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I consider that useful

desert gulch
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maybe

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its all in interpretation

whole wind
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hey guys im sorry but im very uber lacking in the department of computer tech 😦 i am looking for some 1 on 1 help to get what i want in the price range im looking for can any of you help me please?

desert gulch
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Budget?

whole wind
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$600

desert gulch
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Ummm

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Thats gonna be fairly hard to do rn as budget gpus are expensive

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Like 570 and 580 which could fit in that price range are way overpriced rn

stoic island
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@whole wind well, what will it be used for?

desert scarab
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Yo so is my build good as it is rn

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Or do I need to upgrade the PSU pronto

stoic island
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Didn't we just tell you what was wrong with that list?

desert gulch
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Alot of things is fix

stoic island
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:p

desert gulch
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Yea

whole wind
desert gulch
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1080p gaming?

whole wind
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yes

stoic island
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Gaming is going to be hard at a 600$ budget right now, hm

desert gulch
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mhmm

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i think a 580 or 570 build could work

stoic island
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wow and doom might run off iGPU tho

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Dunno

desert gulch
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and just put their msrp on there

stoic island
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@desert gulch if you can get one

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Which I wouldn't count on

desert gulch
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mhmm

stoic island
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I'm gonna make an iGPU list

whole wind
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im so lost lol my normal guy who builds them for me shot him self last year 😦 a good friend i miss him very much and so now i have no one to call and ask for help in what to order

desert gulch
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what you thinking? mr1?

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like 3200g or sumthin?

muted patio
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I had a $500 Intel list put together

stoic island
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4650g build

whole wind
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last comp he built me was a Gigabyte 970A-d3 with some AMD processor but to be honest i dont know all the lingo lol

desert gulch
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ight mr1

stoic island
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@whole wind fair, anyways, do you need wifi?

whole wind
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no i dont think so i know i need internet and i know i want to go SSD drives i think that is what they are called?

desert gulch
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yeah ssd

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theres two main types

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2.5 inch sata ssd

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like this

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usually cheaper but a bit slower than m.2 if m.2 is nvme

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then other type of ssd is m.2

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like this

#

goes on motherboard

#

so this pc will be able to get ethernet where it will be going?

whole wind
#

so i would say the faster one but also if i could manage it 1 T bite for the gaming storage too ?

desert gulch
#

i could try

#

it may go a bit over budget tho

whole wind
#

it will be in my home to a wire internet

desert gulch
#

ok

whole wind
#

im sorry im a slow typer and reader

desert gulch
#

all good

wicked frigate
#

Is molex to sata reliable

#

What about molex to 6 pin power for gpu

desert gulch
#

i wouldnt

muted patio
#

I wouldn't do either of those

wicked frigate
#

Ohhh

#

Wait

desert gulch
#

vintage

wicked frigate
#

Than how would I connect my gpu

#

Cause it’s a 6 pin

desert gulch
#

with the power cables that are for it

wicked frigate
#

And I have a molex cable

desert gulch
#

there should be one thats an 8

#

that splits into 6 and 2

#

so youd plug in the 6

muted patio
#

Too manythings like this happen

desert gulch
#

and just leave 2 dangle

stoic island
#

molex goes smelling like burning plastic

wicked frigate
#

Wait

desert gulch
#

mr1 i worked on list a bit

wicked frigate
#

So I can’t connect to my gpu

stoic island
#

other than the 1tb drive thing, should be able tot get it under 600$

desert gulch
#

they wanted a 1tb m.2

#

heres what i got

muted patio
#

Really poor connection that tends to get hot and melt. molex wasn't designed for large power draws

desert gulch
#

mhmm

#

molex for fans and stuff

stoic island
#

lemme see

muted patio
#

There's a reason the power connectors are different now

desert gulch
#

fan hubs

wicked frigate
#

@stoic island help me please

#

Can I dm u

#

About the situation

desert gulch
#

we can all help you here

wicked frigate
#

Ok

#

Let me explain

desert gulch
#

ok

whole wind
desert gulch
wicked frigate
#

So I have Mai gaming x 1050ti and I can’t connect to the power so I have 2 dangling molex cables for my psi what do I do

desert gulch
#

use the 8 pin gpu power cable

#

and one of them should split into 6+2 pins

wicked frigate
#

I have a 6 pin

#

Gpu power

desert gulch
#

then plug the 6 into the port

stoic island
#

ah crap

wicked frigate
#

I don’t have any

stoic island
#

just realized 4650g listing is tray, no cooler

stoic island
#

might need to step down to 3400g

desert gulch
#

oof

wicked frigate
#

I have only 2 molex cables

desert gulch
#

so wait

wicked frigate
#

Here wanna pic

desert gulch
#

you need to go from 6 pin to 8 pin?

wicked frigate
#

I can show

desert gulch
#

ok

#

post one

wicked frigate
#

Here wait

desert gulch
#

ok

stoic island
#

oml the pricing on everything

desert gulch
#

yup

#

you like the ram i found mr1?

#

decent for price rn imo

stoic island
#

meh

#

I'm mad at cpu market atm

desert gulch
#

better than the gskill crap you had in there before

wicked frigate
#

Ok look

desert gulch
#

ok

stoic island
#

@desert gulch whoa whoa whoa don't you go insult my aegis like that

desert gulch
#

mr1

stoic island
#

aegis ftw

desert gulch
#

they dont need wifi

stoic island
#

ye I know

desert gulch
#

theyll have ethernet

#

so why not get a cheaper b550?

wicked frigate
#

Look

stoic island
#

the mobo in there isn't wifi?

desert gulch
#

yeah but theres cheaper b550

stoic island
little osprey
stoic island
#

bro

#

that's b560

#

not b550

desert gulch
#

o wairt

#

lol

#

thought you were going amd

stoic island
#

@little osprey what

#

@desert gulch not with 250$ 3400g's

desert gulch
#

oof

little osprey
#

Should I do the integrated graphics for the cpu

stoic island
#

I'm also gonna quickly look around 600$ prebuilts

#

@little osprey need more context than "should I do X"

whole wind
#

was there something i am suposed to click on ? or you still putting a list together ?

desert gulch
#

mr1 would helix L be better?

#

few bucks more

wicked frigate
#

@desert gulch help

rich sphinx
stoic island
desert gulch
#

those do not power a gpu

wicked frigate
#

Noooo

desert gulch
#

look for a cable with PCIE on it

wicked frigate
#

That all I have available

desert gulch
#

well then you need a new psu

#

wait

stoic island
wicked frigate
#

Look

muted patio
#

DOn't use Molex for anything but fans

stoic island
#

prob only single 8gb stick but dGPU makes up for that

desert gulch
#

did you plug in gpu power into cpu header?

wicked frigate
stoic island
#

So I think that's the best option atm

wicked frigate
#

That is a similar gpu to this

desert gulch
#

ok

#

dont use any of those

#

did you plug in cpu power?

little osprey
wicked frigate
#

Umm can I show

stoic island
#

lemme just edit that

desert gulch
#

mr1 make sure to get z490

#

so they can oc cpu

stoic island
#

nah man

wicked frigate
desert gulch
#

yeah

#

if you dont have any gpu power cables

#

i think you need a new psu

rich sphinx
#

this looks like an oem psu probably not gonna have connector

wicked frigate
#

But it was an prebuilt

desert gulch
#

looks like maybe you added a gpu?

wicked frigate
#

So

desert gulch
#

did it come with a gpu?

wicked frigate
#

No

desert gulch
#

ok

wicked frigate
#

Came like this

desert gulch
#

so the company didnt plan for a gpu

#

and didnt buy psu that could support one

#

to save costs

wicked frigate
#

Look

desert gulch
#

yeah

#

thats how it came?

wicked frigate
#

Yep

rich sphinx
#

they make gpus that dont need external power

wicked frigate
#

Expect I took out the sound card

lyric thistle
#

300w psu

wicked frigate
#

Cause I don’t use it

desert gulch
#

yeah id say new psu time

wicked frigate
#

Yep

#

300

#

How

#

Like

#

How would I fit it in that small case

#

And room

rich sphinx
#

they make sff psu

desert gulch
#

yeah they make a ton of form factors

#

you could always buy one and have it just power gpu

#

just have it sit outside the case

stoic island
#

@little osprey what's the budget

lyric thistle
#

GTX 1050, 1050 Ti, 1650

wicked frigate
#

@desert gulch how

#

Or should i just buy a new pay

desert gulch
#

you need a psu that can support a gpu

stoic island
wicked frigate
#

So should I replace the psu

stoic island
#

can cut down more but yea

desert gulch
#

mr1 is helix l better for price?

#

5 more bucks

wicked frigate
#

So what should I do

desert gulch
#

ahh ic

#

mr1 what would you do for a old pc that doesnt have pcie cables for gpu power

#

we need a 6 pin, gpu doesnt have them

wicked frigate
#

@desert gulch help

desert gulch
#

non modular

stoic island
#

not using a gpu

desert gulch
#

mhmm

#

but if you wanted to have a gpu

wicked frigate
#

I am trying to use on e

stoic island
#

I wouldn't trust that psu to handle it

desert gulch
#

wouldnt you need a new one?

#

to replace old one?

#

or just buy new one and just set it outside case to power gpu

wicked frigate
#

But I don’t have a cable to power the gpu

desert gulch
#

thats why you need a new psu

wicked frigate
#

So my friend told me to get molex to 6 pin

desert gulch
#

no

#

dont do that

wicked frigate
#

Ok which one

#

That would fit in here

desert gulch
#

molex not meant to power more than like low power stuff

#

like fans

wicked frigate
#

There

#

Idk if that helps

stoic island
#

uh

#

only 96w on 12v

desert gulch
#

mhmmm

wicked frigate
#

Old system

stoic island
#

Yes

lyric thistle
#

Putting a psu outside of a case as a secondary psu is a silly thing to do

wicked frigate
#

And trying to put an 1050ti

lyric thistle
#

If you get a new psu, just replace the old one

desert gulch
wicked frigate
#

But which psu

desert gulch
#

like what if it wasnt a 24 pin mobo

wicked frigate
#

That would fit in here

rich sphinx
#

is this a dell???

wicked frigate
#

It’s 24

#

Pin

#

I think

whole wind
wicked frigate
#

It says SYX

#

System do

#

Dx

#

So what should I do

stoic island
#

@whole wind to a certain degree, new ram, new storage for sure, GPU upgrade if the PSU is decent, might need better PSU, but CPU upgrades might be iffy

desert gulch
#

500 watt psu

#

enough for a better gpu ig

#

h410m in there

#

so yeah cpu upgrade may be meh

wicked frigate
#

But should I just do cpu

#

Old mobo and everything

#

And I am build a new system

whole wind
stoic island
#

Prebuilt

desert gulch
#

yup all you gotta do is plug it in

#

and maybe update windows and stuff

#

idk how long its been sitting

stoic island
#

software updates shouldn'tbe hard

desert gulch
#

yeah

wicked frigate
#

Ok so should I just get an psu

lyric thistle
#

Probably

desert gulch
#

mhmm

#

if you want to use that gpu

wicked frigate
#

Which psu that would fit in their

muted patio
#

if you're getting a new PC, you should just get the new PC and don't spend money on this one

lyric thistle
#

Get a Corsair CX 450, or a be quiet! Pure Power 11

wicked frigate
#

But this one works perfectly and I have an spare gpu cause I am getting a new one

whole wind
# stoic island Prebuilt

ok last thing and then ill let you guys go ... what Grafix card would you say later on i should bump up too?

wicked frigate
#

But I need one that would fit in there perfectly

stoic island
#

That's a question for when you do want to upgrade, that's completely dependent on the GPU market situation

#

And budget

wicked frigate
#

So Corsair

lyric thistle
#

Measure the side lengths of the psu

desert gulch
wicked frigate
#

Umm ok wait

muted patio
#

That's just a regular ATX power supply

stoic island
wicked frigate
lyric thistle
#

Oo

wicked frigate
#

This might help

#

ATX

lyric thistle
#

It says it's atx

stoic island
#

ATX is normal size

muted patio
#

Yes

desert gulch
#

yea

lyric thistle
#

So you should be fine with any normal atx psu

wicked frigate
#

So which one

#

Cheap one

#

That would do the job

whole wind
desert gulch
#

cx 450

stoic island
#

Well, how much money do you foresee yourself having then?

wicked frigate
#

Ok and is it fully modular

#

???

muted patio
#

You're not getting a fully modular for cheap

stoic island
#

And right now, the market is extremely volatile, GPUs might come in stock tomorrow, or in a week, or never, who knows.

desert gulch
#

no

#

full modular expensive

whole wind
#

probley like 250 to 300?

desert gulch
#

could do a 1660 super for that probably

stoic island
#

Well

desert gulch
#

if market is decent

stoic island
#

Probably not

desert gulch
#

someone here got one for 250

#

so who knows

stoic island
#

Stock has been gone for weeks

wicked frigate
#

And this has all I need

#

Right

desert gulch
#

should

wicked frigate
#

Can someone check

#

Or no

lyric thistle
#

Wth is a segotep sg-g lol

desert gulch
#

a psu

muted patio
lyric thistle
#

Link me pls

wicked frigate
#

Air are the cables long

desert gulch
#

vintage wouldnt a cx 450 work fine for them?

wicked frigate
#

Cause I don’t have that much space to put

stoic island
wicked frigate
#

I have to fit in that case

stoic island
#

It's the same platform as GP-G, as according to the guy who literally made the ltt tier list lol

#

(SG-G)

wicked frigate
#

@stoic island cx same price

stoic island
#

one is 450w, one is 600w

wicked frigate
#

So I should get cx

#

Ohh

stoic island
#

:P

wicked frigate
#

But why do I need 600?

muted patio
#

IT'S NOT FOR YOU

desert gulch
#

theyre not talking to you i dont think

wicked frigate
#

Ohhhh

stoic island
#

upgradability, CX450 only comes with 1x8 PCIe power :P

muted patio
#

Check the replies lol

lyric thistle
#

Neat

muted patio
#

Well, 450 can only power one GPU anyway

desert gulch
#

yeah

stoic island
#

cx450 vs sg-g 600w is clear sg-g win imo

wicked frigate
#

@desert gulch so cx also will I have space to put the long cables

desert gulch
#

idk

#

i dont have your pc in front of me

wicked frigate
#

K

muted patio
#

As I recall

wicked frigate
#

I’ll just shove the things

muted patio
#

Pretty much Corsair or EVGA only IIRC

lyric thistle
#

Pure Power 11 500w comes with 2x 6+2

wicked frigate
#

Thx guys

rich sphinx
#

just cut the wries if theyre in your way lols

desert gulch
#

lol

wicked frigate
#

And this comes with 6plus 2

desert gulch
#

while psu is on

wicked frigate
#

Lol

desert gulch
#

yeah

#

it does

#

it has 1 6+2

wicked frigate
#

Ok thx

#

What about sata

#

Power

#

And all of that

desert gulch
#

should have all that

wicked frigate
#

Ok thx

#

Cy

#

Cya

desert gulch
#

1 x 24-pin ATX
1 x EPS12V/ATX12V Connector
1 x PCIe Connector
4 x SATA Connector
4 x 4-Pin Peripheral Connector

whole wind
#

thank you guys very much for all your help. Stay Safe out there 😉

stoic island
#

:)

#

I like segotep tho

lyric thistle
#

I've been wanting another alternative psu that's under 80 bucks just to know about lol thanks

muted patio
#

My new go to

#

Along with Metallic Gear for PC cases

rich sphinx
#

dude how did you find this?

#

this thing looks good

desert gulch
#

What thing

rich sphinx
#

this segotep

muted patio
#

PSU tier list, it's a good one for the money

#

Pinned to this channel

desert gulch
#

Ltt tier list it pretty pog

rich sphinx
#

huh noice

desert gulch
#

Thanks to vintage

muted patio
#

$72 fully modular is pog

#

I didn't make the list

desert gulch
#

Well you pinned it

muted patio
#

i didn't pin it here either

desert gulch
#

In cases and psu

muted patio
#

Or did I?

#

I know I did it it the PSU channel

desert gulch
muted patio
#

Nah, not here. before my time as mod assist

desert gulch
#

Ik

worn wave
muted patio
#

Yeah, someone else pinned it here

desert gulch
#

Was saying in cases and psu channel

muted patio
#

That list isn't an end all be all either but it's a good cheat sheet

desert gulch
#

Mhmm

#

It teaches you which ones not to buy lol

#

D tier

wanton cliff
#

wdym "f"?

#

ROG boards are really good

#

@analog fjord

#

oh

worn wave
#

What about it?

wanton cliff
#

ic

final delta
#

Thank you! And yes it’s a b550 F

autumn aurora
#

I used an Asrock board for mine

inland quartz
#

Hello, I am new here and in need of some help with my build. Having issues getting the pc to post. Called both Newegg customer svc and ASUS who is the maker of my motherboard. Both stated I may have chosen an incompatible PSU or graphics card. Is this the right place to post this?

muted patio
#

Sure

#

Start with your motherboard and CPU please

inland quartz
#

Here’s my build. Motherboard - prime z490m plus

#

CPU - i5 10600 kf

muted patio
#

SOunds good

desert gulch
#

Gpu and psu?

muted patio
#

When you hit the power button, what exactly happens?

inland quartz
#

Gpu- MSI gt 1030. PSU - EVGA GA 650W

muted patio
#

Those should both work

desert gulch
#

Those should work fine

muted patio
#

What happens when you hit the power button?

inland quartz
#

Hit the power button, LED on Mb turns on, fans all spin. No beep nothing, no image

muted patio
#

Ok, that's good

#

Next question

#

The cable from your monitor

desert gulch
#

Where is it plugged in

muted patio
#

Where is it plugged in, to the GPU or motherboard by USB ports?

inland quartz
#

Into the GPU

desert gulch
#

Ok

muted patio
#

Try the HDMI or DP by the USB ports

desert gulch
#

Vintage it's a f

#

No igpu

muted patio
#

crapola

#

It is

#

Let me look up that board

inland quartz
#

Haha yeah that was a roadblock

#

Honestly, I’ve googled this and have followed some guides. Removed and plugged everything with the exception of the CPU

muted patio
#

And no diagnostic lights

#

oof

#

Where are your ram sticks installed, what slots?

inland quartz
#

A2 and B2, which is what the manual says to do

muted patio
#

GOod

#

You have the 8 pin CPU power plugged in?

inland quartz
#

So, that is the one thing I am not too confident about. It’s plugged in but the plug didn’t necessarily match the motherboard, read online that this was still ok

muted patio
#

WDYM, that's a modular power supply, it should be labeled CPU

#

and have 8 pins

desert gulch
#

maybe they talking about the 24 pin

inland quartz
#

Aye it does, but instead of being two squares it is a bit round

muted patio
#

round?

#

Should be 8 pins from the CPU power socket to the PSU

desert gulch
#

pic may help

muted patio
#

In the CPU slot

#

Also, the big 24 pin connector, the part that goes into the power supply, you have BOTH of those plugged in, yes?

marsh kiln
#

What y'all think of this spec list

#

The gpu is a Ryzen 5

#

All of that for 2150

inland quartz
muted patio
#

yes, those are correct

#

2 4 PIN connectors

#

Might need to put one in before the other depending on how they're keyed

inland quartz
#

Got both the cpu and mb plugged in though

desert gulch
# marsh kiln

not worth, could do a 5600x and 3070 build for around 13-1400 imo

muted patio
#

Latches facing up

marsh kiln
#

Yes but getting them is the thing

desert gulch
#

yeah

muted patio
#

5600x is pretty available now, it's the GPU that's tough

desert gulch
#

mhmm

muted patio
#

5800x for sure

desert gulch
#

if you want the looks, then go for it ig

#

but if you wanted a pure dollar to performance build then could def go cheaper

muted patio
# inland quartz

Also check the connections into the power supply. Make sure both MB connections are plugged in

inland quartz
#

👍 all is plugged in properly. I spent almost all day Saturday trying to get this running, honestly at a complete loss

muted patio
#

Something probably isn't plugged in properly

#

CPU fan power cord is on the CPU_FAN header?

inland quartz
#

Yup, it runs and everything when I turn the power on

muted patio
#

Well

#

We don't know that

#

Fans spin is all we know

#

Without diagnostic lights or a speaker we don't know anything TBH

#

Motherboards haven't come with a beeper for nigh on 10 years now

#

Do you ahve a drive installed?

#

If so, what kind?

inland quartz
#

Got an nvme m2 ssd 6
Got a sea gate hdd

#

And an optical drive

muted patio
#

Ah, what NVME exactly? And what slot?

inland quartz
#

M.2 in the 1 slot

muted patio
#

Whichy M.2 though?

#

Brand and model?

inland quartz
#

Oh my bad. Intel 665p

muted patio
#

Ok, so that is PCI-E, good

#

Arew you using HDMI or Displayport?

inland quartz
#

HDMI

muted patio
#

CPU fan plugged in above the ram?

inland quartz
#

Yup

muted patio
#

Unplug everything we don't need

#

USB

#

Front panel except power switch

#

Sata drive

#

etc

#

Just 24 pin, 8 pin power, GPU and power switch

inland quartz
#

That’s how I have it right now, minus the power switch.

muted patio
#

Ok, unplug it from the wall

#

Remove the button cell battery

#

leave it out for aminute or two, put it back in, plug the power supply back in and boot again

#

Does the GPU fan spin?

#

I didn't ask that

inland quartz
#

Gpu only has the heat sink

desert gulch
#

ahh passive cooling?

muted patio
#

Huh

#

The one I looked at had a small fan

inland quartz
#

Got this one to get me by for work, waiting for those damn 30s

muted patio
#

Got it

#

Ok, do a CMOS reset with the battery

#

If that doesn't work, take the ram and GPu out and make sure they're fully seated

inland quartz
#

Alright, give me a minute for the cmos

muted patio
#

Sure

inland quartz
#

I definitely appreciate y’all’s help

muted patio
#

YW

#

All these things SHOULD work

inland quartz
#

So, I had to remove the gpu to take out the battery for the cmos. So I’ll make sure to plug that in good. Removed the ram, and put only one stick in the a slot

muted patio
#

Good, if this doesn't work, send pics of the connections on the power supply

inland quartz
#

Plugged off I’m assuming? Did not post :/

muted patio
#

Well, no video out anyway

#

Pic of PSU conenctions on the power supply?

inland quartz
muted patio
#

Hmmm

#

That looks OK

#

What happens if you just let it sit?

#

Does it power cycle a couple times?

#

This is going to be really hard to troubleshoot without diagnostic LED's or a speaker

#

Could be anything TBH

inland quartz
#

That’s the interesting part, I can let it sit here for a while. Fans spin nothing happens. I’ve messed with the monitor to see if it’s something there but nothing

muted patio
#

Just because the fans spin doesn't mean it's working :/

inland quartz
#

I see

muted patio
#

Could be CPU, RAM, GPU or motherboard

small osprey
#

im betting its ram

muted patio
#

Fans spinning just means the motherboard is getting power

#

Try the other stick of ram in the A2 slot?

#

also, try the GPU in the lower PCI-E slot

#

just for grins

#

also try taking the M.2 drive out