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tf does base clocks have to do with anything lel
Alot
As in....
the steam achievement is for exceeding base clock by 50% or more
the cpu boosts more than 50% of its base clock by itself
turbooing u mean
so i got an "extreme overclocking" achievement on a cpu that can't overclock
boosting and turboing are the same thing
which cpu
i7-10700
lol
2.9ghz 4.8ghz boost
which madman actually does full turbo
overclocking the **** out of it?
boost clock of 4.2ghz
not actually stable, just stable enough to validate
benchmarking at 4575 mhz
lol
damn, surprising you got that with 3600c18 ram
cinebench doesn't really care about ram
1.6 volts is just a suggestion
I dare you to daily 1.6
mm yes i love killing my cpu in 3 weeks
Dang
if it was idle all the time probably not quite that fast
What's stock?
Like 1.35 right?
Oof
stock is probably something like 1.1v on a load like prime95
but with pbo you can test prime95 to see how much your chip says is safe
average is 1.25v
some chips will go up to 1.3v, some chips want less than 1.25
Pog
Which is better https://vrlatech.com/product/vrla-tech-apollo-gaming/ or
@sonic pasture get a 3060 on redux
should be same price
and will slap the other pc
oh fun oos
that's sad
can prob get it on xotic tho
Hm, not too bad actually, 4350g+3060ti at 1400$
if it was a month earlier wegg had an ABS prebuilt with 10400f+3060ti at 1200$ xd
Lmao
let's see
He doesn’t need rgb
True
sad
Should he get this one or like a nzxt
wait just build him a pc tho
like u get to build a pc
and ur friend doesnt get scammed
literally a win win scenario
Lmao I don’t know how but I’m going to build my own soon
Also everything is so over priced right now
So does anyone know which one he should get for 1200
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Xswzgt does this look fine? Im using it for a server in the secondray slot on the case since it can support a fullsize atx and minitix the powersupply is a dual atx powersupply for dual systems
if it's a server i feel like a 3900x might have been a better buy than a 5800x
you can get 3900x for cheaper than 5800x
would rather have gt 710 than gt 210
better driver support
otherwise it looks good
gt 710 😎
gt 210 last driver is 342.01
gt 710 is still supported by the latest driver
that is a lot of years of driver updates
not like the gt 710 is expensive
any one know where i can get blue switches for my corsair k70
why not use 1650 for nvenc

also yeah can confirm 3900x v good for server
is nvenc needed? he didn't say what the server was for
1650 might be difficult to find at reasonable price rn
Server is for nvenc obv

so does anyone know where i can get k70 corsiar blue switches
i just want the switches not a whole new keyboard
I don’t think you can just buy the switches
So I just watched Jayz review on the 5000D, and I really like it
why do you want to buy cherry mx blues
But I don't know if I like it enough to swap it with a o11d xl
why u like blues lol
they are louder and i like them
ok I believe you
Ight Lol
any suggestions??
for new keyboard??
ASUS ROG Strix Flare
Razer overpirced imo
fr fr
Gk61 pretty pog
ewww 60% bad
The asus flare comes in cherry mx blues, reds, browns, and a few others.
Ducky trash
ducky $$$
Overpriced cuz paying for brand
what about keychron
the flare is a full size
varmilo*
If I may ask what is your general budget for a keyboard?
The flare is $115
Reason: Bad word usage
weggbot no one likes you
lol i said the f word
Reason: Bad word usage
its not that bad I have one
pic on desk??
favorite keyboard that I have ever had
ugly
look the same size as mine
numpad in 2021 
@hollow grail what keboard you got
custom
I play arma
me like numpad
i need a numpad lowkey lol
numpad good for blender
so I like a numpad
My first custom mechanical keyboard.
Tofu 60% Aluminium (black) case, DZ60 PCB (Rev 3.0), stainless steel plate, Kailh Box Jade switch, PBT XDA Gray keycaps, with foam.
Website buat latihan ngetik: https://10fastfingers.com
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i like thatttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt
its only bringing up duckys are they the same thing lol
or is it just he switches
sup
sup
cool
full sends???
lol that would be lit
they send u one singular switch
its a kbparadise keyboard are they any good
yes
yes swag man is on website
and they only have the box thick jades
v60 is beautiful
fr fr i kinda want one now
gotta cop
Reason: Bad word usage
BRO
SHUT UP
HOLY
weggbot I hate you
what I was trying to say was
I am extremely broke
oh no sends for you ig
Covid sucks man
fr fr i felt that tax returns did me good tho
I want to commit tax fraud
i want it lol
u finna get scammed
amazon the way to go i think
yes
i ordered it 114$
Trying to find a newish gpu is like trying to find a needle in a haystack
yeah just look for a 1650 for under 400 bucks and suffer basically
that’s my advice I give to my friends
Before even those prices get worse
3070 bb msrp drops >:P
?
RTX 3070, best buy MSRP drops for 500$.
1650 for transcode
400 is already way too much for a 1650
I wouldn't pay more than 180 for one
1650 super has much better value
It's Thursday boys, AMD direct time
Is this good Intel I 5 10600k
3060ti is a decent match with a 10600k
But I’m not finding it anywhere
And it’s my first build!!! Can’t even start building with out this part
yeah you'll need to win the lottery or stalk it real hard
3060 ti pretty hard card to find
Gotta snipe those bb drops
or use stock checkers
@pine stone you could start building it if your cpu has integrated graphics... that’s what I did and I am still looking for a 3080.
Lower end amd ryzen 5s and 3s the normal variants dont have igpus
Yeah I have a i9 10850k
If you'd pay a little more you can have igpus on intel from low to high end
So mine is ok for some games but I really want to play more  demanding titles
like?
oh yeah stapless had iot for 240 or something
I got mine at B&H photo
10600k for $200 yesterday
175 yesterday? no?
at B&H
Tarkov, arma, maybe some cod.
Yeah
I wonder if there are any VR mods for it?
There might be
I have literally had this computer before December and I still can’t find a 3080
smh
3080 is the most impossible thing to get
And I am pretty picky as well... I really want an asus gpu
I mean my whole computer is made around asus
idc
3080s dont exist
I would also be ok with gigabyte
You should just get a 3070 @dreamy remnant
gigabyte just sucks tbh
And Evga
why gigabyte
why EVGA... EVGA is ok
I have an evga psu
EVGA is amazing wdym
best warranty heh
which one
they're warrantys are pretty good
Idk
not BQ I hope?
Who else let's you take a card apart, water cool it, etc all without voiding the warranty?
nobody
K
Intel
Ok you got a point
hyuh?
Their gpus not going to be all that impressive
Most probably but they will be 1st gen and mainly for laptops ig
1st gen already out, they're for cheap workstations and display out only basically
Next ones should be better
I see
So 1st gen was oem only?
Pretty much and ONLY works with Intel CPU's
its also an ugly gpu
Dedicated integrated graphics 😎
@wanton cliff what
is that not an H510?
no
the case
no its a lian li ll mesh
its bad
it cant fit cables for nothing
its clean only for small builds should have gotten a better case tho
coughs in P360a
but the i9-10850K and RTX 3060 OC 12gb is clean

@wanton cliff ya but it was a asus one if im correct
well i dont know much first time
thats a pretty bad combo
if i upgrade i might get a better AIO and a better case
@static ravine better then anything really
3060 ti and 10850k would make much more sense
Watch Jayz's video on overclocking the 3060. Apparently quite a bit of headroom in them if you're comfortable with that
im glad so at least I can get 2070 level perf with a 3060
but my M.2 ssd does not want to be detected at all again cant be the mobo so i have to call newegg for a faulty ssd
message @fresh garden
ya i know
sounds like a gt 710 to me
LMAO
@sage crown its not the case
its u
the lancool II has rlly good cable managment
oh jeez
javier
a lot of stuff is wront
first of all
there is this nice little space behind the motherboard tray
Cables go behind lol
Especially the cpu power for mobo
ur aio is mounted wrong
cables rubbing against each other can cause static
which can be mad annoying
i like the cat pc
i do too
Also, all the fan cables need to go in the back of the case lol
Does that pump head thingy rotate? Cause if so please do that it hurts
yea u just mount it the way its meant to be mounted 
What’s wrong with the mount?
The cpu block could be rotated 90 degrees but the rad is fine I thought
honestly don't know enough about AIOs
rad is fine
but all i remember is the rad should be on top of the pump or something
the pump is just mounted weird
its weird
Usually tubes coming out the side of the block
like i think ur aio lasts longer with tubes below the pump
but theres more noise or something so most people put tubes above the pump
My AIO is really noisy it’s annoying
yeah, noise
Probably need to turn down my fans though too lol
i was saying the rad on the top is probably the quietest
Well not that loud just high pitched kinda
oh
Like a hiss
my uphere fans p loud but i got closed back headphones so im good
idk who spread the misconception AIOs are flat out quieter than air coolers but I don't like them
I have the msi mag 240mm
I regret getting aio, should of just gotten dark rock pro 4
tower coolers look kinda lame ngl
too bulky for me
Why 12a over the pro 4
and it just looks weird
Usually alternative to pro 4 is 15
@hexed isle never have to care about ram clearance
@fossil halo Aio is quite but the case fans are kinda loud but not to loud you know
being dramless has very little to do with performance degredation as you fill up the drive, that's more to do with PSLC caching
and how the controller handles its pslc cache
@fossil halo what?
u gotta remount that pump, fix those cables
REJECT NOCTUA EMBRACE ENERMAX
Remount aio block, put cables behind the mobo tray
that seems to be the worst of the issues
bruh its fine right
@mental steeple need to confirm again, dramless still can have wear leveling depending on controller, just wear out faster from needing to store locations on flash correct?
REJECT ENERMAX EMBRACE NIDEC
NIDEC GT OP
I guess just looks ugly
prob not
cables rubbing against each other
can cause static
ok so first of all there is literally no such thing as an ssd made in the last 10 years with no wear levelling
and static in ur audio cable is the worst thing in the world
@fossil halo @rich helm ya i know static i will fix that but yes AIO is mounted right
ok bro
Yea, meant to say since wear leveling is controller side
were just here to give tips
close nuff
ya thx mate
The logo on the block is sideways
ya i know
depends on where the drive stores metadata, using PSLC for metadata does put more stress on the nand but if the flash isn't garbage it doesn't matter
So unless it turns, it’s mounted wrong
drives like the SN550 which split metadata between PSLC and SRAM don't see a meaningful endurance degredation
to the point where it doesn't matter
Cause the AIO is intentionally built to have the logo right side up
HMB sucks lol sn550 is good because it doesn't lean on it
storing metadata in hmb is good for endurance in theory but brings its own reliability concerns that really depend on how the SSD controller is tuned to handle power loss
uh every ssd that isn't a 970 pro has pslc cache so
i mean SN550 has a large enough sram cache to use it more, and put more stuff in it
so
it's more of a synergy of multiple factors
@rich helm what would happen if i leave it like this
@rich helm cause i can fix it but not right now tho later on ya
It’s just that the flow is designed specifically for it to be mounted right, side affects could be less lifespan, less performance etc
Not too much of a difference but still
the sn500 ssds also use static PSLC over dynamic which is part of why they have good consistent performance no-matter how much the drive is fulled @stoic island
You paid a lot of money for it might as well use it properly
how the drive performs as it fills up mainly has to do with the handling of PSLC cache
@rich helm alright i will remeber that i will fix the mount later tho
QLC drives becoming slower as they fill up is because the PSLC cache is shrinking and writing to QLC is 🐌
LMFAO
Hm interesting
They have error
Driver maybe?
Download motherboard chipset drivers
Had something like that on my old HP prebuilt
What motherboard?
had to grab drivers from the manufacterer,
I'ma drop some links
This is my first build and also the unknown device is my ssd
Download, Unzip and install them
All of those should make the Device Manager happy
Then go here and get them: https://rog.asus.com/us/motherboards/rog-strix/rog-strix-z590-a-gaming-wifi-model/helpdesk_download
Chipset, WiFi, Audio, and BT Bluetooth
What about bois or sata ??
I have a RTX 3060
Then no VGA
Ok thx for the help mate
YW
Yes, you have to extract, AKA Unzip them
Just right click, Extract
Then open folder and run setup
That'll work
Ok
@muted patio so I setup the chipset that's all I do and I have to do that for everyone of them
Yes, after all of them are done
Ok
I just realized the td500 doesn't support 280mm rads
😉
I cry
Now I gotta cancel a whole order
Oh
Why not?
It supports 140mm fans
imagine 140mm or 280mm
Ya my AIO doesn't fit on top of my case :(
It does in fact, front mount RADIATOR SUPPORT - FRONT
120mm, 140mm, 240mm, 280mm, 360mm
Do I also setup down on the bottom
u can use it it has advantages but no one uses it
One or the other, not both
Yeah, front but I wouldn't want to install the rad in the front. I had my design with rad on top
Ok well I did Asus setup
Ahhhhh gotcha
So I'm done now I restart
Yes
Ok
I can't deal with spaces that arent full like I couldn't look at the front with like the bottom 20% empty cuz 280
Is the shuffle happening again?
Apparently not
@dreamy remnant ya they said 1pm some time
I think est
It's after 10 AM PST, if it's not up now it won't be
Oh
so its now
You can but should be fine now
Looks like they took down the shuffle page entirely
yeah
@muted patio would gpu be in pci ??
PCI-E
So part of PCI, yes
Same for your NVME drive
😉
Try it again
Mmmm these conformation emails take forever
but paypal processed it so I definitely did get it, so I can put it in my nickname now, case and RAM are coming around Monday so hopefully AMD isn't too slow to ship
cause I wanna just get this thng built already
So these stuff won't conflict with anything else right
Yes
ROG STRIX Z590a?
Yes
Let me check
Please do
Device ID search time?
Yes
You're on Windows 10 yeah?
Is that the problem
I'm not 100% sure but it might be
Ok
Like, an Actual Trial copy or just not activated?
Also, Windows 10 Enterprise, Home or Pro>
have you done ALL the windows updates?
Yes
Even the optional ones?
Right click the windows button and hit system, that window will tell you exactly which version of windows you have
Am outdated copy of windows might not like the new drivers
20H2
Windows feature experience
Are you on an Admin account?
Try right clicking the Setup.exe and choosing Run as Administrator
Then check Device manager again
Dop the Chipset drivers
Wheres that
Yes
Try the other setupme.exe
So second one right
Ping me if you need me
Ok
Can someone help me with installing windows
I bought another new flash drive and its getting stuck at the same part
How did you make the installation USB>
You need to download this and run it, let it install to the USB drive. Then, when it boots from the USB drive, you need to format the HDD/SSD/NVME and choose GPT partition instead of MBR. https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=691209
If you just download an ISO and burn it, you get the issue you have with the "media error"
using a burned ISO makes this error as does using an MBR partition type
Ive been debating.
So Ballistix has clearance of 39
meaning if i really want to overclock, i would have to go with a 240mm rad.
or could always keep LPX and just go 280
but then Ballistix is pretty expensive for 3600c16 :/
Bruv. Check the FCLK on your CPU before you buy fast ram for 3700x
Alright.
nah
more like 5000
Heard sometimes people hit it.
But even 3900x's have hit only 1800 iirc
early Zen2 was rare to get 1900 flck, late Zen2 is I think somewhere from uncommon - common
@muted patio I figured out why it’s not reading my windows
My m.2 isn’t being read by the computer
hmmm
What board and what M.2?
What motherboard and what M.2
and what slot
SATA M.2?
thats... not an M.2
M.2 sata ssd
Yea
in other words, sata or NVME
1 I believe
so NVME
Ah
Red light.
Bottom is SATA
Oh ok
Move the drive
That would make sense.
Why its going whack.
never turns off
But there is no standoff under mine
Mine normally had no light at all.
You can buy standoffs
@little osprey which one do u have
Move it from the top to the bottom or check the Motherboard BOX
I can send you a link if you have a normal motherboard.
Should have come with the motherboard
yeah should be in the same little package the screw for it is in
What do they look like
Yes, there will be a little packet with a screw and a standoff in it
They look like tiny motherboard standoffs
Not that exact size
Not brass, SILVER
wait no ssd standoffs on motherbaord?
I think I got it
Mine didn't, came in a little plastic bag
Had to install them myself
oh
prob a high end motherboard thing
YES
just finger tight on those
budget gigabyte motherboard cant relate
no need to bust out a wrench and crank on them
@muted patio want to go to vc and talk about the problem without texting?
N omic
Just install standoff
whaat about cranking 90s
Move drive down a slot
And do what you did before
Well, boot into BIOS and make sure the drive shows there first
Might have damaged it from being in PCI-E slot, IDK
it can fit in a pcie slot tho right?
Which screw do I use
The one in the baggie
the one with the standoff
with the standoff
yeah
K
press f1
Let’s go
Do I do anything for mine or just leave it be
FOr yours, download and run these also. I missed a couple that might help. https://dlcdnets.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/03CHIPSET/DRV_Chipset_Intel_TP_W10_64_V101186348254_20210126R.zip
https://dlcdnets.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/LGA1200/ROG_STRIX_Z590-A_GAMING_WIFI/Intel_SerialIO_Driver_V30.100.2042.1_WIN10_64-bit.zip
do i do asus set up again
I think I did that yesterday with u guys
Yes, extract and run both of those
check it to make sure, then exit to windows I guess
K
ok
My screen has been black since I exited bios for like 5 mins so I turned my pc off then back on now I have that orange light on my ssd
And my screen is still black
@muted patio so i finished i will restart computer brb
@muted patio guest what it doesn't show PCI errors its all fine now but my M.2 ssd still doesn't want to be detected by the motherboard it did this on the laptop of mine when i first bought it
@muted patio my screen is just staying black why is that
NICE! Fixed that issue. M.2 drive ded then
@muted patio it did this when i first bought from newegg it fixed it self after a day but you sure its dead then
Does it show in the BIOS
If it doesn't show in the BIOS and doesn't show in the laptop, it's ded
What all did you change in the BIOS?
@muted patio now my screen is just black and the orange light on my ssd is back after I turned my pc off
Nothing
no it does not it did when my ram was set to 2133MHz but when i put it to 3600MHz it shut down the M.2
This doesn't make sense.
but nit still does not want to detected it self
my ram settings when i started the computer the first time was set to 2133MHz change it to 3600MHZ cause thats the max but it still wont read
RAM has nothing to do with ssd
Fully unplug from wall power, plug back in and try agian
oh should i just return this ssd then or something
yeah if you push ram too far itll just crash and reboot back so you can get into bios
bios is restart and Del right
ok
i am going to check bios and change ram to 3600MHz would that be fine and try to see if the M.2 ssd would read it self
Didn’t work
@muted patio also thanks for the help on PCI
reset cmos
How do I do that?
unplug from wall, pull battery, leave out for a minute, put back in and boot
I'd send it back then. They should show in the BIOS
Ok mate
If it's not showing in two separate devices, it's most likely bad
It’s back on
Now boot from the flash drive and set up windows
Save and exit, install windows
K
the zoom
ty
I look into things, consider me a detective
Sharp eyes, good skill to have when coding
@muted patio I did save and reset and my screen went black but it said there was no changes
Do I do the unplug thingy again?
You can't boot from your flash drive?
If you go into boot settings and select your flash drive with UEFI mode you should go straight to the windows installation thingy, no?
@loud vapor happy bday
Yea
I’m just gonna unplug it for a minute then put it back in and install it
Why does it say the speed of the ram is 2133MHz but it's a 3600 ??? Or is it something else? Still new to this
you need to set XMP profile in BIOS to get full speeds
Oh
what board do you have?
Z590-A gaming WIFI
you want to do it right now?
No I can do it later on
I was asking that's why
But now I know how to do it thanks for the info
@muted patio @wanton cliff
huh
oh
Click New
are you installing windows then?
I did clicked new now what
yep
K
“We couldn’t create new partition
Then error
What now? @wanton cliff @muted patio
delete it if you can, then try again
Delete windows?
Wait
Like on separate computer
Custom
And 64 bit?
I believe so
You used this program to make the USB drive? https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10
i’m confused
@muted patio what now
IDK I'm reading, never seen that one
ty
Cuz Davinci using GPU to render
can i change that
no
Why? GPU is faster than CPU lol
You want to use your GPU...
All editing software uses it...
xeon lyfe 😎
sorry
i’m new to pcs
rendering is mostly done on CPU but the actual real time stuff is done on GPU
Is that the ONLY drive you have connected in your system? The M.2 one?
there’s nothing wrong with it?
Yea
Run the media creation tool again, make a fresh USB boot drive. https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=691209
Do on my old computer delete everything then do a new one
Just run the tool again and it will ask you to format the USB drive, just say yes
i got scared because the gpu usage was at 90% lol
thats normal
the more it's using the faster it should go
it uses what it needs, nothing more, nothing less
Ok
Format does what?




