#building-and-recc-chat

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flat temple
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Naisu

wanton cliff
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Also please don’t use Brave

stoic island
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nice

frozen axle
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but i also have duck duck go kekw

flat temple
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Almost all current android models from 2018 and beyond uses usb type C

still roostBOT
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Komm, süßer Tod#1223 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

stoic island
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duckduckgo can't protect you from browser

little osprey
stoic island
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duckduckgo protects you from google search

wanton cliff
little osprey
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Ok?

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Privacy right?

flat temple
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Norton saves me from browsing ;)monkaS KEKW

little osprey
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or ram usage?

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Or what?

wanton cliff
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The creator of brave is a LGBT-phobic POS

little osprey
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I will stop

stoic island
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I think Brave had security vulnerabilities?

little osprey
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K

stoic island
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don't remember

wanton cliff
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All money goes to him and anti-LGBT charities

stoic island
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rip

wanton cliff
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From brave that is

frozen axle
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geforce experience is also the driver downloader right

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and thats disgusting

wanton cliff
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Also security vulnerabilities, as @hollow grail would be happy to tell you

stoic island
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Experience is nice

little osprey
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Dafuq

stoic island
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driver download is good

little osprey
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Ya im remove this garbage

muted patio
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Shadowplay is pretty cool

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Recording into the past

little osprey
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Google can have my data

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idc

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Im not doing anything illegal

muted patio
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No need to rush and hit the Record button

frozen axle
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amazon already knows everything about me

stoic island
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no more "mom get the camera"

flat temple
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Lol

frozen axle
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might as well give it to google

little osprey
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^

wanton cliff
little osprey
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Its not like im on the fbi watchlist

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I just stay at home

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and play with my cat

frozen axle
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you are now kekw

little osprey
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and game

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What would they want

flat temple
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Cat bad

frozen axle
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your soul

little osprey
stoic island
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I use chrome and duckduckgo, reason being not privacy, but duckduckgo provides consistent search results that isn't based off previous results :P

flat temple
frozen axle
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^

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the duck duck go thing

wanton cliff
frozen axle
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its so nice to have results not based off previous searches

flat temple
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I use opera, the layout of the browser is clean

stoic island
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welp, ddg works for me rn, so I'm not too interested in researching new searching engines

frozen axle
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opera looked cool but like

wanton cliff
frozen axle
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i felt it was not necessary for me

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and that

flat temple
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I don’t use it cause of the pc limiting part

fossil halo
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LMFAO

flat temple
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I use it because I like the layout a lot

little osprey
flat temple
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Fr KEKW

fossil halo
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opera is clean no doubt

flat temple
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I will that sounds bad

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I delete

wanton cliff
flat temple
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Yikes

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That’s bad

little osprey
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bruh

wanton cliff
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Use Iridium doid

little osprey
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I really want to run Wannacry

fossil halo
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it was on my old laptop lmfao

little osprey
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Should I setup a vmware

flat temple
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I have 32 gigs of ram so I shoudnbt be worried about google

little osprey
little osprey
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32gb ram 3600 kit

flat temple
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LOL

little osprey
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on 4000 MHZ

fossil halo
flat temple
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same

little osprey
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I need to run another memtest today

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FML

fossil halo
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it will be fun

little osprey
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It took 12 hours last time

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Bruh for one frequency. Its literally trial and error lmao

frozen axle
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i should probably do a bios update

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crashed turning on docp which was kinda funny

urban trellis
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Does anyone know how to download battlenet without the god dam network error been bugging me for almost an hour

little osprey
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Download it. worked fine for me.

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Maybe wifi issues 🤷‍♂️

urban trellis
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Ive seen many other people with same error

little osprey
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i had it once

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all i did was restart the pc

urban trellis
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I tried that like 20 times lol

coarse current
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guys is my SLI 3090 setup good?

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check build pics

urban trellis
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Nice

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SLI 3090s doesn't give that big of a preformance boost you mind linking me one?

coarse current
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NOO

urban trellis
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Lol

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Damm that probably cost a lot

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4400 MHZ ram on top of that

uneven mist
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like thats sli 3090 they barely look like 2060 bc of the quality

coarse current
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i spent my life savings ON THIS PC

urban trellis
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Facts lol

coarse current
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i put another blackplate that look like PCB

uneven mist
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send a higher quality pic then

coarse current
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i like pcb

sonic trail
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Gonna be broke

coarse current
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NO I AM POOR NO

urban trellis
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Noice 144p camera lol

little osprey
uneven mist
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i think we can all agree thats not sli 3090 and not a 5950x and not 4400 ram

coarse current
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dude it is my iphone SE

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it is

pliant lake
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lol, i dont think that looks like a 30 series SLI bridge

coarse current
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IT IS

uneven mist
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my sister has an se it takes way better pics than that

coarse current
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im playing RTX minecraft now

uneven mist
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ok so what version do u use for rtx?

pliant lake
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windows

urban trellis
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Lmao

uneven mist
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no mc version

pliant lake
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Windows store version

uneven mist
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what minecraft version do u use?

coarse current
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I AM DOING 1.16

uneven mist
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nope lol

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u use bedrock dummy

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not java

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haha

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now we know hes a troll

coarse current
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ON BEDROCK

urban trellis
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If that's a 3090 sli why tha heck is the gpu the size of my 1660 ti huj

pliant lake
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the SLI bridge didnt give it away?

severe axle
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bruh its an asrock mobo

urban trellis
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Lol

uneven mist
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hes just a troll

coarse current
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NO IT IS NOY

urban trellis
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Lol

little osprey
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I'll trade 3070

coarse current
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no stop

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no clown

little osprey
uneven mist
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dood that sli bridge is like a plastic lego piece

coarse current
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trade me 2 3080s

little osprey
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Kek

coarse current
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for one 3090

little osprey
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I'll trade u a 3070

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and a half eaten sandwhich

coarse current
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no

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i offer rtx 2080 ti then

little osprey
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Then yeah u poor

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You spend kidneys on 3090

coarse current
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do you want to see my actual pc build?

little osprey
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sue, if ur not trying to flex on me lol

pliant lake
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if its better than 144p

little osprey
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Then I need to take that offer of 1500 for my 3070

urban trellis
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He's prob gonna get it off google

coarse current
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wait

little osprey
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lmao.

coarse current
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let me take picture

little osprey
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1500 for a 3070

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lovely kekw

coarse current
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i was kidding

little osprey
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...

coarse current
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i dont have a 3090

little osprey
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Knew it

urban trellis
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@little osprey if u want a 3090 sell ur 3070 for 1500 on ebay lmao

coarse current
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i have a 3080

severe axle
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also off google

little osprey
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for it

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Lmao

urban trellis
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Lmao

little osprey
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That poor fool

uneven mist
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like we believe that bruh momento

coarse current
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actually tho i am playing rtx minecraft

little osprey
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STONKS

coarse current
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on this pc

urban trellis
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Does anyone know how to fix the network errorthing when u download battle net

little osprey
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3070

urban trellis
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I've been trying it for soooooooooooooo long

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Too long

little osprey
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just have cat7 ethernet ez

coarse current
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I HAVE CAT8 ethernet

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LOLOLOL

urban trellis
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I have cat6

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No acctually tho

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I've been trying forever just so I can play some dam warzone

wet furnace
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my god my pc is finally working and its such a huge upgrade

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it feels like a dream

urban trellis
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Noice

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@wet furnace specs?

little osprey
ebon matrix
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specs?

little osprey
ebon matrix
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we need the specs

little osprey
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I jumped from a 2500 +gt1030

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to a 3070, 3700x

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POG

ebon matrix
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pog

uneven mist
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pog\

little osprey
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should i take the offer

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1500 for a 3070 lmao

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Feels very wrong

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but very r ight lmao

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"Its not scalping if the buyer offers that price for the item"

ebon matrix
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i mean it would be better to get a big upgrade then a small one

little osprey
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and then my dreams could come true

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of bottlenecking a pentium with a 3090

ebon matrix
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lol do u do editing?

little osprey
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3d modelling

ebon matrix
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ok makes sense

little osprey
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editing sux cause it would murder my SSD

ebon matrix
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lol

wanton cliff
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Just checking to make sure this is a good build and there is nothing I need to change

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Going to be for VRChat, retro emulation, and VMs

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And homework of course

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It’s for a friend

flat temple
wanton cliff
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As cheap as possible

flat temple
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alright

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Gimme a sec

wanton cliff
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Want to get a 3060Ti in there tho

flat temple
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Yikes

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That’s not very cheap then

wanton cliff
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And enough RAM for VMs, obviously

flat temple
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Cause to get cpu that won’t bottle neck gpu will get more pricy

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If it’s a 3060 ti

wanton cliff
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A 3600 won’t bottleneck it too much

flat temple
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How much ram is reconnected for VM I forgot

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I read about that a month ago ish

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But forgot

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a 3600 is fine

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I didn’t look at it yet

wanton cliff
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He wants to do a lot of VMs at once so I just did 4x8 because Zen3 benefits from quad channel

flat temple
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Yea

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Alright I’ll check it out now

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3rd gen is zen 2 btw

wanton cliff
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I know

flat temple
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Unless he’s upgrading

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LOL

wanton cliff
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Zen3 is Ryzen 5000

flat temple
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yea

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Oh I’m dumb

wanton cliff
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It benefits from quad channel despite what the board supports

flat temple
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I thought that said 3600x at fue s glance

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I’m blind asf

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ROFL

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First*

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@wanton cliff it looks good, it would add more storage if possible

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1 tb even though nvme is not much

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And also I’ve never seen people use phanteks psu before

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I’d use more reliable brand, like evga or Corsair

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Maybe phanteks isn’t bad, but I’ve never seen anyone use it before, I didn’t even know it existed

wanton cliff
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Bruh

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Literally the only PSU Vintage will recommend is Phanteks AMP

flat temple
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LMAO

wanton cliff
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SS class PSU right there

flat temple
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I’ve never seen someone use it

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But if he recommend it then it’s good

wanton cliff
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Because it’s too high tier

flat temple
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I trust it pogu

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Ye

wanton cliff
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How long have you been here again?

flat temple
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Yea for what he wants I don’t think that 1 tb is necessary, maybe 500 tb nvme, and 2 tb hdd

wanton cliff
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Agreed

flat temple
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Like 3 months, started being active like one month ago

wanton cliff
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But a terabyte is the minimum imo

flat temple
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?

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But why does he need sm nvme storage

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Windows, vr stuff maybe

wanton cliff
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I mean in general

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And Linux

flat temple
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How much storage does vr stuff take

wanton cliff
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VMs, remember?

wanton cliff
flat temple
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I would assume not to much.

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oh dang

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Well still than that makes me say 500 Gb nvme and 2 tb even more

wanton cliff
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Considering that they are coming from retro consoles I can’t imagine what a SSD is like for him kekw

flat temple
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LMAOOO

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yea fr

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Gonna be a crazy fast change

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Anyways aside from the storage changes, the build looks good

wanton cliff
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Thanks

flat temple
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For vm related stuff I’m not exactly sure that he needs such a cracked gpu and cpu, but it’s fine prolly

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Maybe though

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To be completely honest I’m not very well versed into the VR world cause it’s not my thing

wanton cliff
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Well

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VRChat is horrible

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For frame rates

flat temple
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LMAO fr

wanton cliff
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So a 3060Ti is all but necessary

flat temple
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Yea sounds good then

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And the 5600x can keep up with that easily ofc

wanton cliff
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Of course

flat temple
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my beliefs are that if VR is that gpu dependent, than maybe a Ryzen 3 to cut the cost

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That could work with a 3060 ti maybe.. if it’s 5th gen

wanton cliff
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Very high resolutions

flat temple
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Oh

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Nvm then LMFAO

wanton cliff
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Wdym Nevermind?

flat temple
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yea then the 5600x will be a good help for the 3060 ti to keep constant higher frames pushed out at high Res

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And Ryzen 3 might bottleneck 3060 ti a little, it would be close prolly

wanton cliff
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Probably

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Actually he doesn’t have a monitor and I’m not going to get him one so he is probably going to use the 30” TV in his room, which is 1080p iirc

flat temple
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I saw benchmark with 3600 and 3080, so it making me believe a Ryzen 3 5th gen, would be fine with a 3060 ti tbh

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It’s close like I said

wanton cliff
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No Zen3 Ryzen 3 CPUs exist yet

flat temple
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Oof

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Didn’t mean to reply to that

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That was the for last comment u said

wanton cliff
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They aren’t out yet

flat temple
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I watched a video about zen3 r3 chips, maybe it was speculation

wanton cliff
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And the first ones are going to be laptops only AFAIK

flat temple
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I watched it at 4 am yesterday while falling asleep

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I think it was talking about what they could possibly be, and how good they would be with certain gpu and builds

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Alright the build overall is fine then

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I wouldn’t go back to zen2 for r3 even though that save hella cash. The 5600x will last too so it’s worth the extra money now prolly IMO

wanton cliff
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Nice thanks

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I’ll need a second opinion of course

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But still

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Thanks

flat temple
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Np

wanton cliff
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That’s the list

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Any techies for proofing it?

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Vintage? Bleach? Ghosty? Mr1111?

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The legendary Naed even?

flat temple
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I haven’t seen naed in ages

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I saw him two months ago

wanton cliff
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Yeah I know

flat temple
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That was the last time

wanton cliff
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He said “it’s one of those things where a car pulls up and you don’t ask any question, you just get in the car” before not saying a single word in the last 2 months

flat temple
wanton cliff
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VMs, emulation, and VRChat

flat temple
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Btw I have that same asus board and I like it a lot

wanton cliff
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Yeah ik

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I have the X570 TUF plus, they need the WiFi variant

flat temple
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It’s a great budget x570 board with a lot of good options

wanton cliff
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Budget?

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It’s literally the best X570 board out there lol

flat temple
wanton cliff
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I never said it didn’t exist

flat temple
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Oh LOL

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I thought that’s what u meant

wanton cliff
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Not at all

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Both are good

flat temple
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Yessir

wanton cliff
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The TUF board is the best X570 board on the market iirc

flat temple
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I bought the WiFi version and idk why

wanton cliff
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Anyways I gtg for the night

flat temple
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I got lan cable 2 days later kekw

wanton cliff
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Tty tomorrow

flat temple
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Cya tmr

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Have a good night

sullen spoke
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Looks fine to me on paper besides the notes, don’t have any immediate complaints tho I don’t proof build lists too often

tough kettle
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for starter's, you don't need a drp4

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neither do you need an x570

still roostBOT
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Decks#5664 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

tough kettle
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oops

tough kettle
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also the ram is overpriced

heady sand
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how much do I need to spend for a good wifi card?

pliant lake
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$30-50ish usually

tough kettle
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25 bucks

heady sand
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PCIE?

pliant lake
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yes

tough kettle
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Even less sorry

pliant lake
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just depends what spec you need

heady sand
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and can someone send a link so I know i don't buy something trashy

tough kettle
little osprey
valid flare
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Intel Core i9-9900K (Standard Folding Box) 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor
Asus ROG STRIX LC 360 RGB White 80.95 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler Asus ROG STRIX Z390-E GAMING ATX LGA1151 Motherboard

Memory

Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory x2

Storage

Samsung 970 Evo 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $64.98 $64.98

Storage

Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $54.99 FREE $54.99

Video Card

MSI GeForce RTX 3080 10 GB GAMING TRIO Video Card

Case

Lian Li PC-O11 Dynamic ATX Full Tower Case

Power Supply

EVGA SuperNOVA GA 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $122.40 FREE $122.40

Case Fan

Corsair LL120 63 CFM 120 mm Fans 3-Pack x2

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WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THIS BUILD

little osprey
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you could easily buy an RMx PSU rather than a 💩 evga supernova switch the 500GB nvme to a 1TB ditch the hard drive till you need it O11 is not needed at all

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all of that could fit in a p400-p500a

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5000D

valid flare
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011 is my dream case soo i want to build in it this system but yeah i will check the psu

tough kettle
still roostBOT
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Decks#5664 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

tough kettle
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case fans are garbage*

little osprey
tough kettle
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sigh

little osprey
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not if you're comparing it to a 122$ evga supernova

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its a good tier psu

tough kettle
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no it's still overpriced

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revolution DF is cheaper

little osprey
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this is cute too

ripe wedge
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011 dynamic overrated

tough kettle
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Not for 122, no it’s not

little osprey
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lol

ripe wedge
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its not even the XL variant

little osprey
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its rgb and looks good in case xd

ripe wedge
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the normal 011 dyn. is stinky

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td500 mesh gang

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yes

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I have an RM850x @elfin flame

valid flare
ripe wedge
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keeps up well with my 3080

ripe wedge
valid flare
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Ok thx

ripe wedge
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also white is pointless in the 011 dynamic @valid flare

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because the psu is hidden in the back

valid flare
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Oohh

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But meh

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I will buy it white

ripe wedge
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it would match in the back

tough kettle
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cringe spending more for white

ripe wedge
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also get cable mod cables

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makes it look better if ur going for aesthetics

valid flare
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Ok i will get those to because am looking forward white build

little osprey
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its because it usually only looks good in watercooled builds

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the people who use it with 360mm rads infuriate me

valid flare
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F noo i am going with black psu white psu costs 250$

little osprey
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people who use 240mm even more

valid flare
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Damn why the f*** are white psu 100$ dollars more expensive than black psu

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Its just color

ripe wedge
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^

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rm850x has a white label

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even tho it costs them cents to change the color

valid flare
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Yeaaah i am going with black f this 💩

little osprey
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its legit just a power supply

valid flare
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Yuup

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I know

little osprey
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do you know how easy it is to spray paint it

valid flare
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I didnt think of that

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But i will leave the black psu

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Meeh i will not see it anyways

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Yup

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Yeaah true

little osprey
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the cases that let you see it are ugly

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unless its the window that lets u see label

valid flare
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Wtf and same i9 9900k cost 100$ more in that blue figure than a simple little box THAT IS F****** MADDNESSS

rain flower
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🌴

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🍏

tough kettle
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lol

valid flare
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Who tf builds yellow build???

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Even mobo

tough kettle
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cringe

valid flare
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Even motherboard

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:DDDDD

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Even gpu

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Yellow

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Žmogus has left the chat

rain flower
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.

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whoops

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goodnight

valid flare
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Gn

rain flower
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thanks for hanging out with me!!!

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goodnight :))

valid flare
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Gn

rain flower
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had fun 🙂

valid flare
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Gn

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Gn

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Gn

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Gn

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Gn

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Gn

rain flower
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Gn

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1234

valid flare
ripe wedge
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huh

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are you getting an error? @distant fable

languid nimbus
earnest olive
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?ban 322976869962088450 spamming a directory that bsods your system

half muralBOT
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Banned Boschetar#0666

earnest olive
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saw a youtube video about that earlier lol

ripe wedge
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lol oof

ripe wedge
earnest olive
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I'll dm you

brittle tinsel
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alot of benchmarks i have seen put the i9-10900k right along side if not ahead slightly of the r9 3900x, what is the main bonus of getting the addition cores and such from r9

ripe wedge
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in gaming the 10900k roasts a 3900x

brittle tinsel
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I would be gaming+streaming from the same pc, as well as script composing and many other things, I just dont see the real reason to step from my intel comfort zone over to AMD, especially after all the issues i have had with amd

ripe wedge
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amd cpus are fine

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amd gpus sometimes can be buggy but otherwise fine

little osprey
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amd cpus are fine now but should get good mobo as well . gpus are trash couse drivers

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overall Intel is best

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Intel Ohhhhh NICE INTELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL Intel

jagged ember
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Intel don't have gpu yet tho

ionic osprey
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Can I put asus tuf 1660 super x3 in h210?

little osprey
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i think so

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check gpu size and case max gpu size capacity

stoic island
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@brittle tinsel 5900x beats 10900k, 3900x doesn't in gaming.

little osprey
civic tusk
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Early rdna had bad drivers that is not an issue anymore

little osprey
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🤔

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its like every cheap b450 supports 3th gen but ofc its not a big deal since it dont have same features . i think intel does better job with changing chipset to be honest xd

dreamy lantern
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AMD vs Intel chat war is getting warmed up

little osprey
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lol

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Intel is best

civic tusk
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Not really I think intel massively money grab with there way of changing sockets. Although there latency in gaming is unmatched. Due to the fact that amd have to use the infinity fabric to tie their ccxs together

little osprey
dreamy lantern
civic tusk
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War pig one of them blind intel fans I'm guessing?

little osprey
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lol i just messing . i appreciate amd that makes intel push some prices down but yeah im cringe about amd xd

civic tusk
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I'm not a fan of either they both have the strong points and weak points but at least there is now competition

dreamy lantern
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same

little osprey
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always had issue with amd

dreamy lantern
#

which is the better choice at the time i go for

civic tusk
#

What's your issue?

little osprey
#

driver issues with graphics uh i throw rx5700 to trashcan lol

civic tusk
#

Driver issues don't exist anymore though

hollow grail
#

They do

civic tusk
#

I have a 5600xt and have no problems now

dreamy lantern
#

i never had a AMD GPU so i don't know

civic tusk
#

I did when it first came out

little osprey
#

also 3600 with b450 is also having chipset driver issues

civic tusk
#

Mine doesn't lol

zealous edge
#

I have a 5700xt no issues.

civic tusk
#

I have a 3600 on an msi b450 gaming pro carbon and have no problems

zealous edge
#

The only thing that didn't work for an hour was amd link lmao

hollow grail
little osprey
hollow grail
#

i think ive seen four nvidia errors

civic tusk
#

So you base your argument off that

hollow grail
#

and they were all upgrading their cards

#

just needed ddu

civic tusk
#

I've seen many nvidia issues too

hollow grail
#

ive seen and experienced almost none

civic tusk
#

No company is better than the other

hollow grail
#

most nvidia issues are user error

dreamy lantern
#

unless amd is better value i am sticking with getting a rtx

hollow grail
#

nvidia is objectively better at making 3d accelerator cards

civic tusk
#

Amd is better value

hollow grail
#

10000%

#

i hope amd gets there but they arent even CLOSE rn

civic tusk
#

In what way

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The 6800xt beats the 3080 at 1440p

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inb4 Ray tracing

little osprey
#

i dont blame any company . i just dont like any issues and can waste more for my comfort . so amd is not for me

hollow grail
#

amd barely wins in raw fps with 0 enhancement and gets killed in every other field

zealous edge
hollow grail
#

id pay $60 more to have dlss alone

civic tusk
#

Also amd are bringing their own version of dlss

hollow grail
#

literally anything that isnt raw fps is bad with amd

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and its going to suck ass

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because they dont have dedi hardware for it

zealous edge
#

Lmao that doesn't mean the card is bad

civic tusk
#

Not fan of either but it's stupid when people are so dismissive

dreamy lantern
#

if amd was cheaper i would get a gpu

zealous edge
#

Ur making them seem terrible...

civic tusk
little osprey
#

lol i had 2 amd cards in my lofe (both gift) and both ggone to trashcan xdd

hollow grail
zealous edge
#

I have a 5700xt runs great, runs cool, no issues

hollow grail
#

i hate nvidia

civic tusk
hollow grail
#

id drop them in a second if i could

civic tusk
#

How is the 6800xt a really bad gpu

zealous edge
#

6000 series does have driver issues im not gonna lie.

civic tusk
#

5700xt beat the 2070 perfomance for last gen for less money

zealous edge
#

Yea

hollow grail
#

it looks not too good when its only $50 more for nvidia at msrp

civic tusk
#

I agree nvidia has the feature set but for what "Ray Tracing" which is abit of a gimmick in most games

hollow grail
zealous edge
#

RT is just a frame dropper

civic tusk
hollow grail
#

consoles target 30fps

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amd's garbage rt can do 30fps

civic tusk
#

I don't see the point you are trying to make really

hollow grail
#

im saying amd needs to work on their software now that their hardware is somewhat close to matching nvidia

civic tusk
#

I don't think Ray tracing is going to be a great feature till lovelace is released

zealous edge
hollow grail
#

right now if you say you use amd in the workstation field youll be laughed at

hollow grail
civic tusk
#

Nvidia will always be at the front of ray tracing tech seen as they where the first to bring it to market

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But rdna2 Ray tracing performance is pretty much identical to ampere if you remove the ability to use dlss

hollow grail
#

true

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well

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ehh

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but i feel like dlss is the actual "next big thing"

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literally just free fps

civic tusk
#

I'd say it's just good that we actually have competition

hollow grail
#

i just also wouldnt tell anyone to seek out amd this gen

zealous edge
#

I had to reinstall/repair amd software lul

#

Because I really wanted amd link lmaoo

hollow grail
civic tusk
#

I'm looking forward to seeing what amds version of dlss is like though

dreamy lantern
#

same

hollow grail
#

i mean its going to suck

civic tusk
#

How do you know

zealous edge
civic tusk
#

Stop being so dismissive

zealous edge
#

lol

hollow grail
# civic tusk How do you know

because nvidia uses ai cores to make it work, amd has no dedicated hw for dlss so its going to either not provide as much perf or will tax cpu more

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either way its gonna be worse

civic tusk
#

Something that we have no information on..... Lili "that's gonna suck that"

hollow grail
#

by a lot

dreamy lantern
#

i mean i don't have a GPU so AMD really improves i might think about it

hollow grail
#

why do you think its taking them so long lmfao

hazy rune
#

I wouldn’t say there’s no information

hollow grail
#

its going to just look like dynamic res

zealous edge
hazy rune
#

It wasn’t part of their hardware design

civic tusk
#

The feature that amd are going to use is built into dx12 ultimate I believe

hollow grail
#

they literally cannot OTA update your physical card

zealous edge
hollow grail
#

nah

hazy rune
#

Anything they do will be a bolt on

hollow grail
#

itll be meh

hazy rune
#

Next gen will be better I think

hollow grail
#

im not saying this to just be an ass

dreamy lantern
#

agree

hollow grail
#

they have a good formula down now

civic tusk
#

Just like first gen dlss was meh

hollow grail
#

next gen will be great if they throw hw in

hazy rune
#

Yup

hollow grail
#

which they will

zealous edge
#

Yeap

hollow grail
#

at least if they know what theyre doing

#

they will

zealous edge
#

Lili if u know

hollow grail
#

but its actually 100% stupid to think that their dlss knockoff is going to be good

zealous edge
#

If u reinstall/repair the adren software does it delete all previous files?

civic tusk
#

It's also 100% stupid to think it will be ass

zealous edge
#

Of the radeon drivers

hollow grail
#

my prediction is that theyre gonna delay it as much as possible until their new cards come out, and then release it half baked as they launch the new cards with hardware capable of good dlss

#

100%

hollow grail
uneven mist
#

whats the good HWMONITOR

hollow grail
#

you have literally nothing keeeeek

uneven mist
#

is it HWINFO64?

#

@hollow grail would u know?

hollow grail
#

hwinfo64 is good yeah

civic tusk
#

Let's be honest here amd is a generation behind on dlss and ai processing and Ray tracing . But they are actually ahead in pure rasterisation performance

uneven mist
#

aight

#

would the guru3d page be the right one?

hollow grail
civic tusk
#

Yeah that may be I've never actually disputed that

hollow grail
civic tusk
#

It's you who keeps getting on your high horse

hollow grail
#

if this doesnt happen i will daily a r9 290 for a month

civic tusk
#

I'm just happy to see actual competition

uneven mist
#

@hollow grail guru3d right page for hwinfo64?

hollow grail
#

i dont rly game on my cards

#

i use them for cool stuff

#

and in the cool stuff front

#

amd literally may as well not exist at all

uneven mist
#

why?

hollow grail
dreamy lantern
#

mm

civic tusk
#

Amd lacks CUDA acceleration which is a major one in the professional space

hollow grail
#

lol amd

#

they also forget to mention amd corrupts the render

#

100% of the time

#

and has for month

#

s

#

amd has just been like whoops

civic tusk
#

You're speaking to a very limited few here now though in comparison to gamers

dreamy lantern
#

they need to decease the price

#

of there gpus

hollow grail
uneven mist
#

oh amd gpus

civic tusk
uneven mist
#

amd cpus are good not?

hollow grail
dreamy lantern
civic tusk
small osprey
#

amd cpus are very good

#

but their gpus

#

not so much

hollow grail
#

rtx is fine for most pro workloads

#

quadro is for insane vram generally speaking

#

although

#

quadro also no longer exists so

civic tusk
#

3090 gets around that lol

small osprey
hollow grail
#

generally the new titan (3090) is fine for most prosumer stuff and even some pro workloads with studio drivers

civic tusk
#

I still think 10gb in the 3080 was not a wise decision though

small osprey
#

there are quadros at my microcenter

hollow grail
#

fr tho that chart

#

6900xt gets CLAPPED by 3060ti

small osprey
#

amd lol

#

nvidia ftw

hollow grail
#

doing work on amd is a literal joke

civic tusk
#

@hollow grail your opinion on only 10gb in the 3080 though?

small osprey
#

why does apple use amd gpus tho

zealous edge
civic tusk
#

Nah it is a joke really

small osprey
hollow grail
#

conspiracy theory here

small osprey
#

i dont think 16 is really neccessary, but games are slowly gonna use more

#

and yea productivity could use more vram

hollow grail
#

but i think if it had 16 people wouldnt have gotten 3090

muted patio
#

The extra bandwidth with GDDR6X though

hollow grail
#

like workstation ppl

civic tusk
#

Not really good for gaming though 10gb when you look at vr anyway

eager flower
#

Hi lili

hollow grail
#

im also calling that the 3080 super is gonna hit shelves sometime either this year or next

#

with 16gb

#

or more maybe

zealous edge
civic tusk
#

20gb is what the rumours keep saying

zealous edge
#

None of the new cards did

hollow grail
eager flower
#

20gb seems unecessary

hollow grail
#

idk if nvidia would do that

eager flower
#

Yeah

hollow grail
#

3090 is where big money is

eager flower
#

16gb is what I think would be the max in my opinion

civic tusk
hollow grail
#

3090 getting sold to render farms like crazy rn

civic tusk
#

Halo products are always like that though

hollow grail
#

idk if nvidia would take a cut on profit

#

unless 3090ti or maybe new titan

eager flower
#

3090s have a small audience but the audience need it

hollow grail
#

i dont think corps would get out of bed for less than 48gb vram

eager flower
#

i thought they weren't releasing new titans

hollow grail
#

so itd need to be big upgrade

hollow grail
eager flower
#

Exactly

hollow grail
#

i dont like how they killed naming scheme

eager flower
#

a kinda worse titan

hollow grail
#

90 used to be dual gpu sku

eager flower
#

cheaper but the titan destroys it in some tasks

hollow grail
#

and also owned some rtx 6000

#

3090 wipes them

#

easy

#

sometimes beats 2x 6000

civic tusk
#

Yeah 3090 beats any previous titans

eager flower
#

I get confused between titans and quadross

hollow grail
#

that card is monstrous

eager flower
#

does it loose to quadros sometimes?

hollow grail
eager flower
#

hmm ok

hollow grail
#

i mean depends maybe some of the crazy vram ones

#

but those are literally punching at 5-10x 3090 price

eager flower
#

Yeah vram is the only issue I ccould see

hollow grail
#

cheaper to get 2 3090 and balance load

eager flower
#

I agree price to performance its better

civic tusk
#

24gb of vram is plenty for alot of applications

eager flower
#

but theres a reAson the 48gb cards exist

#

because there is a market for them

hollow grail
#

mostly compute yeah

#

i think bob has access to a a100 machine

#

nuts

civic tusk
#

Have to say the 6900xt was one of the most pointless cards to come out

hollow grail
#

fr

civic tusk
#

Barely beats the 6800xt

eager flower
#

corn

hollow grail
#

100% they did it for haha 69

civic tusk
#

And just has no real need to exist

hollow grail
#

and also were probs like wow some of these got binned way better than we thought

eager flower
#

I was about to say vram

hollow grail
#

might as well make new sku

eager flower
#

and forgot AMD did 16gb

dreamy lantern
#

6700xt ?

eager flower
#

on all cards

#

maybe as a3060ti competitor

civic tusk
#

6700xt will be 12gb on a 192 bit bus from what rumours say

#

Gonna take some beating to match the 3060ti price/performance though

hollow grail
#

i remember my vega 64

#

got its ass handed to it by my 1050ti

#

have never bought amd msrp since keeeeek

civic tusk
#

That's in your use case though

#

Vega 64 would slap a 1050ti in gaming

hollow grail
#

yeah

#

i mean the vega also blackscreened

#

so

#

not rly keeeeek

#

i would have taken the 1050

#

because same thing happened with 2 vegas

civic tusk
#

Yeah vega did have its issues

hollow grail
#

i feel like amd qc is playing lottery

eager flower
#

doesn't the mac have vega 64s lol

hollow grail
#

5700xt is fantastic if you have the golden confiv

hollow grail
#

like the perfect system config and the drivers just work

civic tusk
#

Also needed to be undervolted to get the most out of vega

hollow grail
#

otherwise its hell

hollow grail
#

i had some other ppl i knew look at them and they were like nah this card is just garbage keeeeek

#

in fairness for gaming only they seem hella fun

#

id get one if i loved oc

#

i know someone who overclocked the HELL out of their 56

civic tusk
#

Yeah heard alot of people oc 56's

hollow grail
#

the card can draw 500w under load

#

actually insane

civic tusk
#

Yeah seen that with powerplay tables

hollow grail
#

also so sad

#

offtopic but i had to switch to hp

#

hate everything

dreamy lantern
#

?

hollow grail
#

i want idrac back

#

sold my old server

#

am renting a hp unit now

#

lililabs is moving to epyc

#

rip to my 2 gold 5218s

#

they were good babies

#

however

#

upgraded storage

#

sort of

#

no more 8tb nvme

#

but now its 256gb os with 1tb nvme cache

#

that dumps to a 56tb drive pool

#

a little better for running my cdn

civic tusk
#

Yep you talking out of my depth now with server configs

hollow grail
#

hehe

eager flower
#

its not good not a petabyte

hollow grail
#

yeah im just happy i got a new toy :))))

civic tusk
#

Never something I've looked into

hollow grail
#

theyre fun

#

planning to host cdn on there

#

current one isnt one i fully host

#

i do have the lililabs cdn but it is very small

#

basically i just use it as a 10gbps thumb drive in the cloud

#

for everything else i just rsync to 1fichier

#

who are fantastic

#

saturate gigabit easily

#

its where i keep the msdn mirror

civic tusk
#

They got a good upload and download link then.?

hollow grail
hollow grail
#

on my up/down box

#

which is at 500/500

#

i get maybe 4mb/s up

#

but can get 3gbps down no issues

civic tusk
#

Ah yeah pretty meh then on the upload

hollow grail
#

once its up there its up there though

#

and you can suck stuff down FAST

#

plus

urban trellis
#

Yay warzone is finally working

hollow grail
#

im paying $3 a month

#

honestly i cant complain

civic tusk
#

Yeah that's cheap

hollow grail
#

i mostly use it for dl

urban trellis
#

Damm 3 Gbps down

civic tusk
#

Seen as you like storage lili what's your opinion on the sk hynix p31 gold

urban trellis
#

I have 10 MB down 😭😭😭😭

hollow grail
#

just example because i used a friend's OVH box

#

normally my down speed on stuff i want is 10gbps

hollow grail
#

pcie3 that beats most pcie4 drives in random

civic tusk
#

Yeah I hear very good things about the mem controller in it

hollow grail
#

id say its endgame pcie3 for perf users

#

depending on what you do on it

#

i still like the corsair 510 for nas

#

big rated tbw

#

tell people to throw that in their prebuilts and watch it FLY

civic tusk
#

Kek

hollow grail
#

from a usa company

civic tusk
#

Seen an article a few months back on a 970 evo going like 3x over its TBW rating

hollow grail
#

i know mp34 "has it" but id wager rma is less than great

hollow grail
#

512gb too

#

ever since then

civic tusk
#

Pffft yeah that's ridiculous

hollow grail
#

if it isnt samsung i dont want it!!!!

#

got excited for pcie4 recently actuall

#

y

#

got a rocket 4.0

#

realized i have nothing in my lab that does pcie 4

#

was somewhat sad

civic tusk
#

Ah yeah heard the rocket 4.0 is good

hollow grail
#

whole lab pcie 3

civic tusk
#

Bruh moment

hollow grail
#

id chuck it in new server but it might be a bit of a trip

hollow grail
#

for 1tb

#

cant complain

civic tusk
#

That's a bargain

#

Is that from own sources though

hollow grail
#

hell id use it pcie3 at that point and be happy as a clam

#

yeah

civic tusk
#

That's cheaper then hmb equipped pcie 3.0 consumer nvmes

hollow grail
#

yep

#

wasa oneoff tho

eager flower
#

NOOOOOOOO

hollow grail
#

honestly if it wasnt id buy a bunch and hook people up

eager flower
#

SOMEONE RECOMMENDED THIS MONITOR AND SOMEONE ELSE BOUGHT THIS

hollow grail
#

why not buy from Dell

#

$900 for that??????

#

if its by dell i source from dell tbh

civic tusk
#

Same they tend to have better deals in their own site

eager flower
#

well its alienware branded

#

so you know its gonna be overpriced regardless

hollow grail
#

dell displays honestly go hard

#

theyre always my first choice

eager flower
#

but for $890?

#

thats a LOT

hollow grail
#

honestly we dont deserve dell

hollow grail
eager flower
#

hol up

hollow grail
#

oh wait keeeeek

eager flower
#

its sold from amazon lol

hollow grail
#

they rly just priced it like that

eager flower
hollow grail
eager flower
#

actually they priced it more

#

its on sale

hollow grail
#

lmfao dell ppls

eager flower
#

25% off lmao\

civic tusk
#

Doesn't an odyssey g7 outperform that for less

#

Only problem is curved

eager flower
#

probably

little osprey
#

no

hollow grail
#

iirc dell has super good color

#

like best in class

civic tusk
#

Yeah it will it's ips

stoic island
#

you sure bout that

civic tusk
#

G7 lacks on colour being va

little osprey
#

Hey guys do you know, if the Asus crosshair viii dark hero with his audio implementation can handle the beyerdynamics dt 990 pro 250 ohms

stoic island
#

oh I thought the Samsung one was IPS too

hollow grail
#

i mean tbh

civic tusk
#

Nah the g7 and g9 are va

hollow grail
#

id get this

stoic island
#

250ohms sounds like a lot for a onboard sound chip

hollow grail
#

165 vs 240 isnt worth 2x price

civic tusk
stoic island
#

uh

#

@hollow grail what about M27q

hollow grail
stoic island
#

330$ 27in 170hz IPS 1440p

civic tusk
#

Yeah I like the m27q

#

Not quite as fast as top tier ones but hella close

hollow grail
stoic island
#

yea

#

it's tested great

hollow grail
#

thats next lab upgrade

little osprey
#

because Asus said in their Rog SupremeFX that it can handle 30 to 600ohms @stoic island

hollow grail
#

actually id do 5

civic tusk
#

Gigabyte m27q is the next monitor I will buy tbh

hollow grail
#

4 4k ultrasharps

stoic island
#

@little osprey handle and sound good are different things though, issue is how loud it'll be because of the resistance

hollow grail
#

and 1 1440p 240hz

#

i want it FLAT tho

#

hate curved displays

stoic island
#

Thought M27q is flat?

#

oh lmao dark hero has a built in dac

#

that's unusual

little osprey
#

Really

stoic island
hollow grail
stoic island
#

I'm prob missing context but too lazy to scroll up

little osprey
#

Thank you. I thought that it wouldn't have that

stoic island
#

ofc internal dac prob crap compared to some actual dac but

#

it's there

little osprey
#

I mean for the beginning i will use that and then i will look forward buying a decent one

stoic island
#

fine ig

#

prob a schiit stack later

little osprey
#

will see