building-and-recc-chat

[hasty bobcat]

not "def try to oc to 1.325"

[earnest olive]

no. max safe is 1.2v unless tested specifically for your chip

it usually lands somewhere around 1.25v

only takes 10 minutes to test

1.325v is safe on about 0% of chips

there have been reports of degradation within weeks at 1.27

do not spread misinformation

[hasty bobcat]

ok kid

[earnest olive]

https://www.reddit.com/r/overclocking/comments/f18cbc/reviewing_voltage_recommendations_for_zen_2/

feel free to destroy your own chip but don't spread misinformation to others

[earnest olive]

though considering this reply i doubt you have the maturity to bother with educating yourself

so maybe it is a moot point

[hasty bobcat]

acting kiddish doesnt help you

have a good day kid

[earnest olive]

oh well, at least i tried

[still roost]

F*ck it, trans time#1223 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[wanton cliff]

ah right

forgot

what a simpleton

[earnest olive]

guy really mad at me that i am not calling his average chip impressive nor agreeing with his objective misinformation

oh well, it's good enough for his fortnite

[wanton cliff]

unless he has some extremely lucky silicon lol

[hasty bobcat]

imagine liking fortnite

lmao

[upper cobalt]

you definitely like fortnite

[hasty bobcat]

keep trying to insult

[wanton cliff]

I started playing again yesterday because my little brother gifted me the battle pass, and the Master Chief was in the item shop

[hasty bobcat]

i boycott egs so...

[wanton cliff]

why lol

[upper cobalt]

correcting you isn’t insulting

[wanton cliff]

they didnt even do anything

[earnest olive]

if you want to find the one slinging insults here it may be more productive to look in the mirror

[hasty bobcat]

there's a mirror in your room

go find it

[wanton cliff]

nah I hate looking into mirrors

[earnest olive]

i really do not care enough to get riled up

[wanton cliff]

makes me want to kill myself

[upper cobalt]

ight savage jace

[earnest olive]

[celest palm]

amd lit tho

[wanton cliff]

If my 3800x (not OCed) says it is clocked at 4.2 with a base of 3.9 does that mean that it is actually clocked at that or is that task manager reading it wrong?

[earnest olive]

the cpu tries to boost itself dynamically based on power and thermal headroom

[worn cedar]

Yo I got a quick question

[earnest olive]

boosting higher than base clock is expected behavior

[wanton cliff]

what's your question, soldier?

[worn cedar]

Can you open up BIOs without a GPU??

[wanton cliff]

no

[worn cedar]

My cpu has no onboard graphics but my mobo has the hdmi port

[wanton cliff]

not unless you have an iGPU

[mortal rampart]

^^

[earnest olive]

the hdmi port only works if you have an igpu

[worn cedar]

Then I can’t

Thanks

[mortal rampart]

Rip

[wanton cliff]

The HDMI port if for if your CPU has onboard graphics

[worn cedar]

That got me bugging when I tried to turn it on lol

[wanton cliff]

AKA an iGPU

[worn cedar]

It wouldn’t turn on

[earnest olive]

the garage is there but it's not gonna do anything if there's no car inside it

[wanton cliff]

its 2:30 in the morning, i've been on discord for 4 hours, why am I not in bed

[worn cedar]

Also some thermal paste may have or have not touched the CPU pins so 😅😅

[upper cobalt]

[earnest olive]

you can clean that off if you're careful about it

[wanton cliff]

Check mobo lights lol

[worn cedar]

Mobo lights were aight after I turned it on again lol

[upper cobalt]

does your mobo have bios flash?

[worn cedar]

I brushed it all off

[wanton cliff]

chello what CPU do you have?

[worn cedar]

R5 2600

😓

[wanton cliff]

2600 doesnt have onboard

[upper cobalt]

no then huh

[worn cedar]

What’s that again

[upper cobalt]

a button that update bios

[worn cedar]

Not used to the terms

Hmmm I don’t think so

[earnest olive]

the only ryzen chips with igpu have "G" in their names

[wanton cliff]

Also, consider upgrading soon. Even Zen+ is already starting to show it's age in modern games

[worn cedar]

It does have a pin to reset it

[earnest olive]

not everyone can afford upgrades

[worn cedar]

I will upgrade my CPU soon actually

[wanton cliff]

ik, I meant when he can

[worn cedar]

If I don’t then it will get bottlenecked by the gpu I’m gonna get

[wanton cliff]

what GPU?

[earnest olive]

i've seen a lot of people go from i7-2600K to R5 5600X recently

[worn cedar]

RTX 3070 or RTX 3060ti

[wanton cliff]

nice

[earnest olive]

one of my best friends just upgraded her 4770K to a 5600X

[wanton cliff]

thats a CPU bottleneck

[upper cobalt]

when are you getting your new parts

[worn cedar]

My gpu maybe during Christmas break

Not entirely sure

But the new cpu gonna take some time

[earnest olive]

2600 probably won't be a bottleneck for a 3070 at 1440p ultra

but anything lower than that yeah

[wanton cliff]

should be relatively easy to get a 3060Ti

Relatively

[worn cedar]

Yeah I’m gonna have to run everything ultra

I don’t even have a good monitor yet

[wanton cliff]

So I don't need to upgrade my 3800x anytime soon?

[upper cobalt]

nope

[earnest olive]

eh

[wanton cliff]

(kind of a joke)

[earnest olive]

depends

[worn cedar]

What happens when you bottleneck your cpu?? Like what’s the effect

[earnest olive]

if you're doing 1080p high refresh gaming

the 3800x can easily be a bottleneck

[wanton cliff]

CPU-intensive tasks get lower FPS and things like that

at least, lower than they should with a good graphics card

I suppose

[worn cedar]

It won’t fatally damage it or anything tho right??

[earnest olive]

bottlenecking just means one part is too slow to keep up with other parts so that the other parts have to wait a bit

no lol

[worn cedar]

I won’t mind getting lower fps or anything

[earnest olive]

quite the opposite

[wanton cliff]

1440p 144fps is what I play at, usually ultra

[earnest olive]

your gpu will have less work to do

144 fps should be fine

I'm talking about 1080p360

or 1080p240 in some titles

[wanton cliff]

yeah thats a bit high

[worn cedar]

Lol my current monitor is 1080p60hz

Gotta upgrade that too

[wanton cliff]

might go for a 3440x1440 for singleplayer games

[wanton cliff]

when your monitor is a bottleneck

[worn cedar]

😭

[earnest olive]

every system has a bottleneck somewhere

[wanton cliff]

got my dad a 1660s with a 3600x and a 24.5 inch 1080p monitor @ 64 hertz

[earnest olive]

it is not possible to not have a bottleneck

[wanton cliff]

Even software bottlenecks

[earnest olive]

because that would imply that there is no weakest part in your system

and obviously that is not possible

[wanton cliff]

pracitically*

[worn cedar]

What if every part is on par with each other

[earnest olive]

even if every part was perfectly on par in one task

[wanton cliff]

insert "not scientifically possible" gif

[earnest olive]

it wouldn't be in every task

so.. nope

different tasks utilize different hardware differently

[wanton cliff]

even the same task in a different resolution

[earnest olive]

for example, minecraft runs far worse than expected on radeon gpus

[wanton cliff]

(I know all too well)

[worn cedar]

My cpu is such a bottleneck to the whole pc tbh

[earnest olive]

compared to how well they usually hold up vs nvidia

the outer worlds is another game that heavily favors nvidia cards

[wanton cliff]

not compared to my friend with a 1600 and a 3060Ti

[worn cedar]

😭

[earnest olive]

it recently came to light that cyberpunk 2077 does not even use the threads on ryzen cpus

[wanton cliff]

bruh

[earnest olive]

so that's a rather extreme example

[wanton cliff]

CDPR, what you doin

[worn cedar]

I’m ram-ready for anything

[earnest olive]

meh I've seen 2500K + 2080ti

[wanton cliff]

hyperthreading is where Ryzen shines

[earnest olive]

welcome to bottleneck city

[worn cedar]

I got the 32gb set waiting for 309 chrome tabs

[wanton cliff]

32gb @ ?

[earnest olive]

2133C15 yummy

[worn cedar]

3200

[wanton cliff]

ah nice

[worn cedar]

Also

I heard that some@motherboards support ram boosting

My cousin did 5500 on his 3200 ram

[earnest olive]

I can't wait until the day I see someone get 32gb ram but they just buy a 1x32 stick and run single channel 32gb

[wanton cliff]

Any significant bottlenecks here: 3800x, Nitro+ 5700 XT, 32gb@3600mhz (dual channel) CL16, b450-F?

[earnest olive]

yes

[wanton cliff]

let me guess

mobo

[earnest olive]

the lack of rgb

[wanton cliff]

nah nah nah

[earnest olive]

if you were a real gamer you'd be listing your rgb in your specs

[wanton cliff]

RGB cooler, Sapphire has plenty of RGB, and its TridentZ RAM

plus RGB strips

[earnest olive]

weak

[wanton cliff]

and Razer products

[earnest olive]

I got rgb contact lenses so the entire world is rgb

[wanton cliff]

because I am fangirl

damn

[worn cedar]

I’m debating whether I should get Radeon cards or nvidia cards

[wanton cliff]

and here I was thinking my Razer Chroma fangirlism was a lot of RGB

[wanton cliff]

do you care about Ray Tracing?

[worn cedar]

I was ultimately thinking of RTX but some Radeon cards are also nice

Not really but

[earnest olive]

well if you're thinking about an rx 6000 series then stop because they do not exist

[worn cedar]

DLSS increases fps doesn’t it

[earnest olive]

rtx 3000 has like 500 times the stock of rx 6000 cards

[wanton cliff]

technically speaking yes

[worn cedar]

I won’t use ray tracing at all, cuz I don’t even put my games on Max graphics

[wanton cliff]

"No, this won't be a paper launch!"

Lisa Sue - November 15th, 2020

[earnest olive]

frank azor omegalul

that guy is a living meme

[wanton cliff]

"$10 bucks says this won't be a paper launch"

Frank Azor via Twitter, November 16th, 2020

[earnest olive]

he was right though

it was not a paper launch

they haven't even cut down the tree to make the paper yet

[wanton cliff]

lmao

can't have a paper launch if there is no product to launch

[earnest olive]

I actually made it to checkout with an RX 6800 XT Taichi

then I saw what was bundled with it and clicked off

[wanton cliff]

what?

[earnest olive]

a garbage motherboard for $300 that I'm sure I would not be able to resell

[wanton cliff]

what mobo lmao?

[earnest olive]

ASRock Z490 ITX

[wanton cliff]

ahhhh

yeah

[earnest olive]

the $300 mobo that cannot even run 10600K properly

[wanton cliff]

no one uses ITX

[earnest olive]

well that's not true

[wanton cliff]

Micro-ATX gang

[earnest olive]

but ASRock Z490 is just awful

[wanton cliff]

yeah true

[earnest olive]

they put toy vrms on the whole lineup

[wanton cliff]

I dont like asrock mobos

Asus is where it is at for me

[earnest olive]

their midrange Z490 boards literally failed to run the 10900K at stock

[wanton cliff]

dont trust their GPUs tho

[wanton cliff]

bruh moment

[earnest olive]

ASRock makes some good stuff

their Z490 lineup ain't it

[wanton cliff]

mobos are not one of those things

I was about to say the same thing

[earnest olive]

nah

asrock does make good mobos too

[wanton cliff]

I don't usually mess with Intel (team Red) but even I know that those boards arent good

[earnest olive]

just not Z490

[wanton cliff]

thats what I meant

[earnest olive]

I've used their B450 Pro4 in 5 different builds

very solid budget board

[wanton cliff]

definetly

[earnest olive]

$80 and will easily overclock a 3700X

I ran a B450 Pro4 with a 3700X @ 4.4GHz all core and 3600MHz CL16 RAM

[wanton cliff]

Lets say you have an unlimited budget for gaming and streaming: what would you build?

[earnest olive]

I'd buy nvidia so I can get a goddamn gpu

[wanton cliff]

I have something similar, although I imagine the RAM is OCed up to 3600?

[earnest olive]

nah that was xmp the customer did not order manual ram overclock

[wanton cliff]

aight

[earnest olive]

in my personal rig I've overclocked my budget modules up to 3800C16

[wanton cliff]

I tried clocking my RAM up to 4000 at one point; it failed after 4 weeks

[earnest olive]

they cost me $68

as a meme I managed to push them up to 4333MHz decoupled

[wanton cliff]

how much?

space, that is.

[earnest olive]

failed as in died or just crashed?

2x8gb

[wanton cliff]

crashed

had to CMOS and do a reinstall of windows

[earnest olive]

zen 2 isn't really expected to do 2000MHz FCLK

gotta stress test your overclocks don't want them crashing while doing something critical

I stress tested my 3800C16 for 11 hours before using my pc again

[wanton cliff]

tbf I was on a 3600 at the time, it shouldn't have changed anything tho

[earnest olive]

I have a 3600X

it won't boot with higher than 3800MHz RAM unless decoupled

but 3800C16 runs rock solid stable

decoupled I was able to run benchmark with 4333MHz

[wanton cliff]

thats the CPU I have in my dad's christmas build to replace an E-machine running an Athlon II, and booting windows off of a 5400RPM HDD

[earnest olive]

overclocking a $68 budget kit to 4333 is kind of amusing

[wanton cliff]

Speaking of: Any good ways to get 23 gigabytes of pictures off of an old e-machine running an Athlon II and booting windows off of a 5400RPM HDD?

I tried a flash drive; computer crashed

[earnest olive]

plug the hdd into your desktop

sata is sata

[wanton cliff]

true

gonna need to get the hard drive out after christmas tho

[earnest olive]

I plugged in my laptop's hard drive into my desktop to copy files over after I built it

worked fine

[wanton cliff]

and idk if I have any extra Sata cables lying around

although it probs has oine

[earnest olive]

do you have nvme ssd or sata ssd

[wanton cliff]

I use NVME, m.2

no cables

[earnest olive]

yeah then you only need 1 sata cable

check motherboard box

every motherboard bundles 2

as far as I've seen

[wanton cliff]

aight, lit

Sata hasnt changed that much in the last 15 years as far as what cables fit into what, right?

[earnest olive]

nope

[wanton cliff]

lit, nice

[earnest olive]

sata is omnidirectionally compatible

[wanton cliff]

thats amazing

[earnest olive]

I plugged a 21 year old hard drive into a modern system

still worked

[wanton cliff]

what was on it?

[earnest olive]

too small to be useful though

nothing notable, I was checking if it had any old photos or anything

60GB hard drive lol

nowadays 1TB nvme ssds can be considered budget

[wanton cliff]

My aunt had me destroy some hard drives a couple months ago: started with magnets, then went to the ol' .40, then fire

[wanton cliff]

1tb SATA maybe

NVME is a bit more expensive

[earnest olive]

team mp34 is a very good nvme drive that can sometimes be had for $103 for 1tb

[wanton cliff]

true

my first drive was Adata, not team mp34

that was a year ago

sx2800 or something like that

8200?

I cant remember

[earnest olive]

my first build was a budget build and it had a 1tb nvme

granted that was the only storage

[wanton cliff]

my first was 1k~

not really budget

and same

only a 1tb m.2 NVME

[earnest olive]

i was still chilling with 1tb

then my friend decided to randomly give me 6tb hdd

[wanton cliff]

1tb is enough if you just made your steam account

[earnest olive]

so now I have more storage than I know what to do with

[wanton cliff]

I have 2 terabytes in NVME storage (half is the ADATA one, the other half is a 970 EVO plus) and 4tb expansion on a disk

[earnest olive]

I'm using about 700gb in total

out of 7tb

[wanton cliff]

im using about 1.5tb

[earnest olive]

and most of that is games

I'm going to sleep I need to wake up early tomorrow

[wanton cliff]

I literally have downloaded my whole steam library (since 2017) and my friend's whole steam library (since 2016) and have only used 1.5tb

[earnest olive]

[wanton cliff]

night

[earnest olive]

enjoy your night

[wanton cliff]

its 3:02 in the morning for me, I really should head to bed

but nah

computers

just vibing all alone in #building-and-recc-chat right now, listening to the Celeste soundtrack, waiting for someone asking for build advice

anyone want build advice?

perhaps a tech tip?

(lttstore.com)

damn im tired

[whole harbor]

its 4am for me ez

[wanton cliff]

where you at?

and also: can we petition for there to be a troubleshooting channel?

please?

the r/BuildMeAPC server has 3

this is the official Newegg server, it needs to have at least 1

scratch that, r/buildmeapc has 1 troubleshooting channel, and 3 build advice channels

still, thats one more troubleshooting channel than there is here, on the official newegg discord server, run by official newegg staff

with official privileges to add a #troubleshooting channel

(come on Taku, Mike, I dont want to ping you or anything like that. Just read this)

Cant the mods also add channels?

probably, although I don't know what the hierarchy looks like on this server

[muted sluice]

can i just put two 6 pins in a 3080?

[wanton cliff]

not if you want enough power delivery

[muted sluice]

ok

[wanton cliff]

on FE cards you need 2x8 for that 12-pin, or 3x8 (usually) on AIB cards

[wheat coral]

Its 2x8 pin usually on aib

For 30xx cards

Only like 3 cards have 3x8

[whole forum]

Okay so my build will make a sound sometimes that sound like a fan starting it happens a couple times per gaming ses anybody know what it is?

[wheat coral]

Iirc

[wanton cliff]

it must be 3090 that is 3x8 then

[wheat coral]

Yeah

[wanton cliff]

...Do you see a fan starting up when that noise is made?

[whole forum]

No it happens in the middle of when im like playing my game and it only happens near the start of when i start using the computer

[wanton cliff]

answer me yes or no: when this noise happens, do you see a fan start up? Ever?

[whole forum]

No cause im looking at the monitor

[wanton cliff]

so you are worried about some weird noise but never decided to investigate it?

Ok so computer parts get hot when games are being played, which necessitates fans starting to help cool it down

if it only happens a few times a sesh then congrats: you have some good cooling

and obviously a fan is going to start up when the computer starts up, I think that one is just common sense

I dont mean to sound pissy thats just what this typing looks like

sorry

[whole forum]

Its fine

[wanton cliff]

next time it happens, ya mind looking into your computer to see if a fan is ramping up? Maybe play a single player game where you can pause?

[whole forum]

Sure

Ill do some googling too

[wanton cliff]

If it does happen, it is completely normal. Means your system is getting hot, which happens to literally every computer ever made

except for the computers with those sub-zero coolers that Intel made special for their 'gold' chips

but those are special, like I said

[whole forum]

Yeah i googled it and it said it was most likely the GPU fans turning off/on because of the load it was under

[wanton cliff]

r/IHadAStroke

[whole forum]

Yes

[wanton cliff]

any more questions before I (maybe) go to bed?

[whole forum]

nope

[wanton cliff]

at 3:30 in the morning?

because im a gamer and gamers never sleep?

[whole forum]

Nah go to sleep

[wanton cliff]

Im a fraud, im not even gaming right now

[whole forum]

Same 😳

[wanton cliff]

I got Halo on on Steam rn to artifically up my hours so that it matches with my xbox account and thats it

[whole forum]

All I played was CSGO and rl and now im here

[wanton cliff]

rocket league?

[whole forum]

yeah

[wanton cliff]

isnt that epic exclusive now?

[whole forum]

mhm

[wanton cliff]

how does that feel to all you rl fans?

[whole forum]

you can still get it on steam

[wanton cliff]

a real kick in the balls, right?

[whole forum]

I bought ir back in 2017 on xbox

but now I have a PC

[wanton cliff]

is it cross progress?

[whole forum]

Yeahhhh but i felt like starting fresh

[wanton cliff]

cause I have some exotic stuff a friend gave me

[whole forum]

and i didnt really have much stuff

[still roost]

Hudz#4195 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[wanton cliff]

might consider hopping back in since I got it for free on epic

as long as there is cross progression

[whole forum]

a

//

bruh

since when

[wanton cliff]

wdym? It was free on a weekend or something

couple months back

[whole forum]

No i got warned for saying a bad word

[wanton cliff]

oh

since all the time

[whole forum]

and i swear that wasnt here a couple weeks ago

[wanton cliff]

watch this (pls no ban)

[still roost]

F*ck it, trans time#1223 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[whole forum]

lmfao

[wanton cliff]

it most certainly was

[wanton cliff]

thanks wegg

[whole forum]

Welp im go to sleep now and im going to wake up at 2 in the afternoon

[wanton cliff]

nice, see ya

[whole forum]

yes

gn

[wanton cliff]

gonna go play No Man's Sky later

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pt3yt8

How is this build??

[wanton cliff]

budget and use?

[little osprey]

500$
Using for Modded Sims 4 & Minecraft with some texture packs

[wanton cliff]

aight

if you can, go for a 128gb SSD and a 1tb HDD

and dont you want a graphics card?

I suppose there isnt much room for one at $500...

[little osprey]

Well I was following most of those parts off of a yt video I found for the budget I wanted

I just changed a few things

[wanton cliff]

And if it's just sims and minecraft, you can bring it down to 2x4gb RAM, prolly at 3000MHz

[little osprey]

And added the fans

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/mPgPxr/adata-ultimate-su800-128-gb-25-solid-state-drive-asu800ss-128gt-c

Would this be a good one?

[wanton cliff]

actually, wait, just to be clear: this is just for MC and Sims, right?

[little osprey]

Mhm

[wanton cliff]

with a few mods and texture packs?

[little osprey]

mhmm

And no I don't want a laptop-

[wanton cliff]

you arent going to use it for anything else?

[little osprey]

Maybe discord & yt

[wanton cliff]

wasnt going to suggest that, not much you can get over there for $500 these days

[little osprey]

Some keep asking me if I want a laptop instead lol

[wanton cliff]

in that case, keep the SSD, bring your RAM down to 2x4 rather than 2x8

you dont need more than 8 gigs for MC or Sims

[little osprey]

yeahh BUT Modded Sims 4 is a LOTTT

[wanton cliff]

maybe

im sure there are some creative optimisation mods you can get but your choice either way

otherwise, its a fine build

also I thought you said sims 3 but still

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Tb97YJ/corsair-vengeance-lpx-8-gb-2-x-4-gb-ddr4-3000-memory-cmk8gx4m2c3000c16

Patriot Viper 4 Blackout 8 GB

Which one?

[wanton cliff]

.

[wanton cliff]

.

[little osprey]

Oh

okays

[wanton cliff]

Have fun modding Sims!

[little osprey]

Thanksss

btw are the 3 fans super needed in the build??

[wanton cliff]

nah

but they are cheap

especially for RGB fans

I would keep them

[wanton cliff]

wait did you mean those fans in particular? Cause you do need at least 2 fans

[little osprey]

Yeah but if they aren't needed atm- I can save some money

They are a 3 set

[wanton cliff]

ik

a very cheap 3-set

like I said, its a pretty good deal even if they are crappy fans (which they likely are, but what do you want for a $500 budget these days?)

at least 2 fans are necessary in a P300A though

preferably 3, considering airflow in $50 cases tends to be pretty bad

[wanton cliff]

you still there?

[little osprey]

mhm!

[wanton cliff]

great. Do you have a revised list you want me to look over or are you content with what you have?

[little osprey]

I think I will stick with the list I have unless you wanna revise it yourself

[wanton cliff]

no, yours looks fine

IDK how the iGPU in the 3400g is going to fare though, I'm looking that up right now

[little osprey]

kk

[wanton cliff]

3400g seems to be faster than recommended, so you should be fine

GLHF!

aight im going to bed now

DM me for a tech tip and I might DM you back in the morning

otherwise, someone else (like Naed or Mr1111) should be on

[little osprey]

kk

[little osprey]

Sup guys

[candid notch]

Hey do you guys know any good 800 dollar pc that can game and stream 144fps

[little osprey]

what is the best pc with todays overpriced parts that can handle 2077 at 60+fps

Budget? @little osprey

[copper fog]

Anybody know a good cheap upgrade from an ASUS ROG Rx570?

4gb^

[urban forge]

The 570 is actually still pretty good, I think you can wait for the 3050ti this January

[copper fog]

I thought it was pretty decent too, but a couple of my buddies told me otherwise, thank you!

[urban forge]

hahaha, its only bad when you play at ultra on single player games(but handles well on medium). If you play competitively on low, it has great performance*

[copper fog]

It is really good price for performance. It is an absolute beast. Do you think upgrading to the 3050ti will be worth it? Will it be an upgrade in general as it’s definitely a huge step cheaper (supposedly) than the 570

[urban forge]

well, we still can't say because there aren't any becnhmarks😂 , but looking at the specs it looks like a very good upgrade. Hopefully AMD will also release some budget cards too:)

[copper fog]

That would be pretty sick, don’t get me wrong, I love my lil 570, but I would love some raytracing 😂

[hasty gyro]

What would you suggest in that price range?

[fiery sentinel]

I want a free pc plz hhhhhh its possible

[jagged ember]

Rule #9

No ebegging

[blazing aurora]

Is the 1660 a good gpu to upgrade to from the rx580 8gb?

[little osprey]

no

[little osprey]

650 usd with free shipping

._.

i already have picked the r5 1600af

Ah

its 149 on amzn

nice

Maybe you could try and get a 1660S

no

For GPU

its 899 everywhere

WHATV

yes

That’s a scam

Literally

[still roost]

TheLexicalBarbarian#0138 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[little osprey]

no S#!t

The GPU is like 220$ normal pricing

ik

Uhh idk then

U in the US

?

How much is Newegg selling it for

Have u looked?

and a lot of ppl say that the rx570 8gb is bad

[little osprey]

same

ag

ah

but like 150 less

still overpriced

Try and get an AMD GPU then I guess

[little osprey]

Yeah

ppl say they are s#!t

Not all of them

like what

570 8gb

580

Wait

5500xt

5600xt

[hasty gyro]

Are they good?

[little osprey]

5700xt is like 500 us

[hasty gyro]

Cuz I know the 5700xt is decent

Yeah

[little osprey]

way overpriced

it was 240usd before the new launches

Try the RX 5500XT

See how much it is

@little osprey

[carmine hawk]

Dude

Just get a 1650s then

[little osprey]

Yes ik

[carmine hawk]

Like what

[little osprey]

Depends on pricing

He can get a 1660

Or a 1650S

[merry bear]

Is this a good build? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NKHGbh

[little osprey]

That’s decent pricing @little osprey

Can u see the 1660 pricing

And then the 1650S

[carmine hawk]

The 1650s is same

210 usd

[carmine hawk]

Or atleast 270 Cad

[little osprey]

No, he looked up a 1660S and it was so overpriced

Prices ain’t normal rn

[merry bear]

is this a good build? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NKHGbh

[little osprey]

Yes expect the case @merry bear

[little osprey]

No the 1650 SUPER

[little osprey]

It is ok on some sort parts but really bad on others.

[merry bear]

wdym

[little osprey]

Overpriced ram
Really expensive monitor
No ssd

And PSU is overpriced @merry bear

[carmine hawk]

Buy it from best buy

[merry bear]

what parts bad

[little osprey]

No SSD @merry bear

PSU overpriced

[little osprey]

tf

[little osprey]

could not find

Oh

so 5500xt or 570

Ok maybe get a 1650 or RX 5500XT

5500xt

it is

[merry bear]

or you could get 3070 or 3060 ti

[little osprey]

Dude he has a budget @merry bear

lmfao

His budget is 650$

[merry bear]

oh

for the whole build?

[carmine hawk]

Lmao

Rup

Just save up at this point

[little osprey]

Yes

[merry bear]

oh

[little osprey]

Yeah...everythng is overpriced.

[carmine hawk]

Finishing my redbull and going back to work guys wish me luck

[merry bear]

then maybe 2080

[little osprey]

2080 are u high?

[little osprey]

2080 for a 650$ build?

What

For a 650$ build

[merry bear]

hm

[carmine hawk]

Professional wetard

[merry bear]

or 2070 supper

[little osprey]

omfg

Lol

ITS A 650$ BUILDDD

[merry bear]

hm

maybe 2060 supper

[little osprey]

@little osprey Do you have a part list

@merry bear u just trolling at this point

[carmine hawk]

Yeh tf

[little osprey]

Stop trolling tho

[merry bear]

no

2060 supper is good

[carmine hawk]

I mean in canada a 1660 ti is only 300 of your dollars

[merry bear]

use it in your build

[little osprey]

Do u know what a 650$ budget build is? @merry bear

[carmine hawk]

Dont buy from newegg

[merry bear]

yeh

[little osprey]

So quit trolling then

[merry bear]

2060 supper is about like 200 dollars right

[little osprey]

LMAO

[merry bear]

wha

t

its like 200

[little osprey]

LOL

QUIT TROLLING

[little osprey]

Not, it never was
What are you smoking dude, wtf

He is high

[merry bear]

not high

[little osprey]

He clearly doesnt know about GPU prices

Bye I am out this chat

This guy is smoking something

here is the total

i need wifi

Seems like a ok build

Also you can buy a wifi card

Oh wait
A400?

I would swap that out with something better

Maybe a m2 ssd like mp34 since everyone recommends that

And it is nearly the same price aswell of the a400 and storage.

For the mobo and cpu...you could go with intel because 1600 is still zen and still suffers from.issue of the first gen
But if you going for 50xx X series, i don't think thats a problem

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2V7RYg

[little osprey]

yes i read that on toms hardware

[little osprey]

all from amazon

now what is a good monitor under 200usd

with high ...hz

a cent off

from partpicker and amzn

Lol

@little osprey how many HZ

60hz? 144hz?

For the monitor

[mortal rampart]

Well as of rn you can't get anything so I'd tell you to wait on lower end cards to go on sale

[little osprey]

any 75+

tn or va

@here

[blazing aurora]

should I buy win10 home or win10 pro

[jagged ember]

if you have to ask, home

[urban forge]

many youtubers have been sponsored by CDK, u can get Windows10 for affordable prices

[jagged ember]

or just get it for free

the only downside is the watermark

[little osprey]

dont buy it

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10

burn it into a 8gb usb or higher

MAKE SURE THAT WHEN YOU DOWNLOAD IT YOU MAKE IT ON A LAPTOP

on the latest win version

and signed in with a ms acc

I need an 1000$ under pc build for gaming and it will be able to work with games like GTA and mw

[little osprey]

@stoic island

whenever i have done that i always end up with installing activated windows

@little osprey https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4qN6p2

[little osprey]

Is that with no watermark?

yes

read my steps

[little osprey]

.

@little osprey

[little osprey]

Thanks a lot.

[blazing aurora]

Home or pro tho

[jagged ember]

lol you can go take a look, i guess

also, you don't need to buy one if you already own a windows device

your MS account comes with windows license that can activate set number of devices

[hazy rune]

There’s some confusion here

If you have a key linked to your account, yes

If you have been using OEM keys, then you will have to get a new serial

Just make sure you don’t pay full price

[little osprey]

You can also buy a key from ebay

[blazing aurora]

I have a windows 10 laptop and an all-in-one that I bought ~10 years ago. do I have access to a win10 license?

[blazing aurora]

scdkey also seems good

[jagged ember]

do you still use it now?

[hazy rune]

Please read what I said above. If you search activate in your windows settings it will tell you

Chances are, no, unless you link the key to your account

[jagged ember]

i thought it was if you signed in your ms account on a windows device bought from microsoft or something it would auto link your account to the license

correct me if i'm wrong though

[foggy hazel]

@jagged ember you can take a local account, with a key tied to it, and make it into a online microsoft account with a key tied to it

[jagged ember]

all it takes is signing in, right?

on your ms account?

[hazy rune]

You have to go through the activation piece and transfer it to your account

But again you cant do it if it’s an oem key

I would know, because they made me activate again after I upgraded my motherboard

I had an oem key

[jagged ember]

ah, i see

[pulsar crag]

There’s a strange buzzing sound that comes from my computer, is that normal ? Like it’s super loud but you can hear it alright

[jagged ember]

if it's an all in one though i think it'll be linked to your ms account

[jagged ember]

where's it coming from, your speakers?

[hazy rune]

Normal, maybe

[jagged ember]

i've had that issue with faulty aux cables

[hazy rune]

Need more info

[jagged ember]

but yes, more info would be nice

[pulsar crag]

No, inside the computer. I think it might just be the fans

[hazy rune]

Power supply most likely

[jagged ember]

maybe something wire is rubbing on the fan?

[foggy hazel]

@pulsar crag try and search for coil whine on google

[jagged ember]

its worth taking a look at

[foggy hazel]

have a listen if that is how it sounds

[pulsar crag]

If it’s like this then he’ll nah https://youtu.be/HP73edpQwgc

That’s what squeakier

*way

[hazy rune]

Sounds more like a fish tank buzz?

[pulsar crag]

Mine is more like very distant buzz

[jagged ember]

could be the cpu fan

[hasty gyro]

Which lower end cards should I wait for

[hazy rune]

If you put your head next to the case, can you find out where it’s coming from?

[jagged ember]

if it's stock fan they tend to sound loud when they're running at higher speeds

[hazy rune]

I had a buzzing sound on my old psu, so could be that but who knows

[pulsar crag]

Yeah I have this one, when I put my head closer, I think it might just be those two fans in the front

[little osprey]

yes

it tends to do that

but recheck wiring

psu

and all the fans

[stoic island]

If you think it is, try using mobo software or bios to turn fan rpm down manually and see if that fixes the noises

[jagged ember]

can also try tightening or loosening screws

[little osprey]

here is a tip

reset the fan curves

i did that on my old inspiron pc

and it resolved it

[mortal rampart]

None have been announced yet, but 3050

[jagged ember]

technically 3060ti is low end

[mortal rampart]

Lmao $400 isn't low-end

[jagged ember]

lowest end card of the 3000 series?

[little osprey]

3050 ti

[jagged ember]

you have a point tho lol

[little osprey]

mid jan to mid feb

https://tenor.com/view/plumber-you-crack-me-up-butt-crack-crackup-g-cracked-up-gif-9248171

[mortal rampart]

Yeah but from things that haven't been released yet lmao

[wicked frigate]

Hey guys what’s better Corsair rmx or Asus rig strix psi

Psu

I meant

[little osprey]

what wattage

[wicked frigate]

1000

[little osprey]

corsair

[wicked frigate]

How?

[little osprey]

better

the asus is good only if you have full asus stuff like gpu mobo

cas

e

[vital warren]

pretty sure rog strix is good just, you know, rog strix

pricy

rmx is solid choice

[little osprey]

Asus on PSUs? Eh...

as i said

just to tie in

the theme

[vital warren]

from what i've heard they psus are okay

[little osprey]

yes

Even them, i wouldn't trust it lol

yes

Also someone has to be a big asus shill to make a full asus build

[vital warren]

rog = rip off gamers

[wicked frigate]

So rmx is better

?

Also I need help choosing out a mono

Mobo

With pcie gen 4!

And bios flashback

Where I just plug a usb in

[vital warren]

alright, what are you building this pc for

because generally almost no one needs pcie 4

[wicked frigate]

Gaming and streaming

[vital warren]

then you don't

[wicked frigate]

I already bought a gen 4

[vital warren]

ssd?

[wicked frigate]

Yah

[vital warren]

well

[wicked frigate]

M.2

And it’s for work

[vital warren]

don't go crazy on a motherboard for features you don't need either

[wicked frigate]

Ok

[vital warren]

what cpu?

[wicked frigate]

5600x

Am 4

[vital warren]

yeah you don't need any expensive board for that

[wicked frigate]

Is this a good one Asus rig strix

Gaming e

[vital warren]

how much?

[wicked frigate]

Idk

[vital warren]

x570-e ?

[wicked frigate]

Yah

[vital warren]

that's $300

[little osprey]

Thats a expensive mobo

[wicked frigate]

What

Wow

[vital warren]

i would def cut that in half

[wicked frigate]

So which one

??

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/McfFf7/asus-prime-x570-p-atx-am4-motherboard-prime-x570-p

Maybe this one?

[vital warren]

I would suggest like an msi b550-a pro for 140 or a msi mpg b550 gaming plus or something but it's a lil pricy rn

i'd head to #cpus-mobo-and-memory to find someone who will be able to help properly, because i'm no expert

[wicked frigate]

Ok

[little osprey]

That x570 has pcie4 & VRM cooling

[wicked frigate]

What the difference between gaming e and f

[hasty gyro]

Okay, I’ll keep a look out for them

Thanks

[wicked frigate]

Hey guys what the best 5000 cpu for gaming

[smoky rock]

5600x afaik

[wicked frigate]

Is that the best

[gleaming quartz]

r9 5950x???

[wicked frigate]

Is that

[gleaming quartz]

thats literally the best one you can get lol

[wicked frigate]

I know but is that the best for fanning and streaming

[drifting garnet]

I feel bad for my friend.

He has a motherboard but

no parts

but the thing is

the parts either are 99999999 dollars or they don't exist.

[balmy patio]

smh

[smoky rock]

@gleaming quartz I was going based off of like not breaking every bank

😂

[drifting garnet]

he was supposed to be building it for his birthday

[gleaming quartz]

lol

[gleaming quartz]

wdym?

pc building is naturally expensive so even if there were inexpensive parts, they most likely were sold out

which explains why they dont exist

[worn cedar]

Fr... been waiting to buy a gpu since November

[drifting garnet]

are you saying the prices aren't through the roof right now

because

[gleaming quartz]

all of them are basically lol

[drifting garnet]

This says otherwise

ok

i was gonna say

[thorny tusk]

now thats value

[jagged ember]

remember pc component prices and stock availability before the pandemic?

[thorny tusk]

ah yes

[little osprey]

Add the needed drive

[gleaming quartz]

good times.

[hazy rune]

Some things are cheaper

Nvme has gone down like crazy

[clever jetty]

i can spend 220$ in ram (3600mhz) and ssd nvme 1tb. what ssd and ram should i pick

[stoic island]

Ballistix 2x8gb 3600c16

75usd

SN750 1tb

130usd

[blazing aurora]

can someone recommend a good $600 build

[clever jetty]

SN750 1tb
@stoic island is this better than 970 evo?

[stoic island]

ye

within margin of error tho

[clever jetty]

okok thx

[little osprey]

Inaccurate

the per month financing should be 3.33333333e9

[halcyon edge]

guys can yall check this and tell me if its good

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6BrVmk

any suggestions for good motherboards for less than 200

[stoic island]

B550 aorus elite ax

@halcyon edge I'd change the ram and the aio

[halcyon edge]

does it supposrt the ryzen 5000 cpus

[halcyon edge]

what would yu change them to?

[stoic island]

Crucial ballistix 2x16gb 3600cl16

Arctic freezer ii 240mm/280mm if it's in stock, if not, NH-U12a

@halcyon edge With bios update, and it has bios flashback.

[gloomy python]

highly recommend any heatsink from noctua

[still bay]

anyone know when the lian li lancool 2 mesh white will go back in stock

like on B&H or any other websites

[little osprey]

@still bay probably after Christmas/new years

[still bay]

damn

[little osprey]

Mid to late January at the earliest

Atleast for a STABLE supply

[still bay]

omg the 4000d airflow is out of stock wtf

WHY

[honest merlin]

Just built my first pc

[gloomy python]

that poor back case fan

[little osprey]

@still bay that's what I'm running

[kindred iris]

How’s my cable management

What can I do better

I’ve yet to receive my CPU from Newegg

[little osprey]

@kindred iris looks better than mine

[kindred iris]

Lol that bottom

[ruby ledge]

Can someone give me a list for $650?

[kindred iris]

I think my 750 W psu is overkill for my 3060ti lol

[little osprey]

I have a 850 for a 5700xt@Green#9722

[quasi snow]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Znspz7
Something like this

[little osprey]

850w 80+ good fully modular

[kindred iris]

I got my psu for $85 off

So I’m like go big or go home

[little osprey]

I got mine for $50, USUALLY $300

[ruby ledge]

Thanks

[kindred iris]

Mine was a Seasonic Focus 750 W 80+ Gold

[little osprey]

Asus rog strix

[cloud palm]

can an lga 1151 v1 cooler fit on am4?

the cooler is hyper 103

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2V7RYg

@ruby ledge

@cloud palm no

Lga is intel

[sullen river]

does anyone have a list for a good vr pc? 1.5k... cause I know nothing about amd(I was told amd is better for vr than intel)

[stoic island]

VR PC is just a good gaming pc

smth like this
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/P3g3gt

[sullen river]

I'll ckeck it out thx

[wooden flare]

I have been thinking about building a pc and i was wondering if you guy think that this would be a good one https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Taco8954/saved/#view=T2MJMp

[stoic island]

where's the cpu?

oh wait

it's interesting

[livid spoke]

if I have a pretty good prebuilt and want to upgrade to a 3060ti but dont have enough power can I just plug it into an external power supply? (550w)

[little osprey]

@livid spoke external psu?

You could always upgrade the psu...I think

[livid spoke]

its proprietary

[little osprey]

At that point, build your own

Pre-builts are almost never recommended

[livid spoke]

okie dokie

[little osprey]

@livid spoke think, if something dies on the pre-built, how you going to replace it easily?

[livid spoke]

idk

[little osprey]

Exactly

[livid spoke]

ok im going to eat

now

thanks

[little osprey]

👍

[little osprey]

thats a kinda bad list tho

[upper cobalt]

how so?

[stoic island]

@wooden flare anyways I'll give my feedback top to bottom
Just 5$ more for 3600c16 ram instead of 3600c18, Crucial ballistix 3600c16 2x8gb is great
I'd get more graphics horsepower than just a 1660 super if possible, 2060 at least, 3060ti ideal
Case is just meh, I suggest you go with a MX330-g air that comes with 3 fans stock, and ditch the extra fans, pwm splitter, and fan cable extensions.
That PSU is very iffy, at least get a EVGA BR/BA 500w.

[wooden flare]

someone recommended this how does this look?

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Taco8954/saved/

[little osprey]

1600 is kinda old and zen(if 1600af, its going to be zen+ and doesn't peform as good as the newer ryzens and for that price you could go with a intel 10400/10400f
the a400 is kinda of a bad ssd
you can get a better one like a mx500 or even a m2 mp34 for like 10-20 bucks more

[upper cobalt]

prices very bad yes

that’s fair

[stoic island]

@wooden flare Is the list privated?

can't find it now

[little osprey]

oh also

the motherboard has no vrm cooling

[wooden flare]

my bad it was https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Taco8954/saved/#view=wwfY99

[stoic island]

Are you building it right now?

Or when are you building it

[wooden flare]

no im not building it rn

[stoic island]

What's the timeline going to be for buying parts?

[wooden flare]

i have the parts but i can return them if they are bad

let me find them

[stoic island]

Well

PSU is the only thing that's actually "bad"

but if you can return easily, or you can cancel order before they arrive, there's small things like 3600c16 ram for just a bit more, and a better mobo for just a bit more

[wooden flare]

this is what i bought but I will return it if you think i should https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Taco8954/saved/#view=kyd4sY

oh i forgot to add the fans

[gleaming quartz]

why only 500w?

you should have at least 600w-650w to run a 3070

[odd crypt]

@stoic island any good 600$ budget

[stoic island]

@gleaming quartz not really

but that PSU model is iffy

[odd crypt]

So?il

Is there

[stoic island]

eh, edit this around ig
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8mbpz7

[odd crypt]

I'll need a better cooler

Than the trashy stock 1

[upper cobalt]

why?

[wooden flare]

here is what I purchased I will return if you think its trash btw im new at this https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Taco8954/saved/#view=f4VrD3

[stoic island]

@wooden flare where'd you buy everything from?

[upper cobalt]

it’s not unlocked

[wooden flare]

amazon

it was over priced af

[stoic island]

only thing that's worth keeping imo is the ssd

[upper cobalt]

then why’d you buy it

[wooden flare]

so my budget is 1k

[stoic island]

gpu maybe if you can't find anything else

[wooden flare]

ok but can you send a recommendation for a custom build pc?

because I am really bad at picking parts

[stoic island]

This as a base list I'm going to edit off of you can look at for now, not final list, just a start.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MhW92V

[wooden flare]

is this for me?

[stoic island]

Yea

[wooden flare]

ok thanks

[stoic island]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HJjGbh
Nice things to have added in, extra storage is nice, z490 board and good ram is nice.

hm b460m pro only has 1 sysfan header

need a splitter or two in the first list

[wooden flare]

I can afford both of these so witch do recommend? https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Taco8954/saved/#view=wwfY99

[stoic island]

smth simple like this
https://www.amazon.com/JBtek-Black-Sleeved-Splitter-Converter/dp/B01EF9OI0O/

[wooden flare]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MhW92V

[odd crypt]

Wait

[stoic island]

First list was just an example base list to add nice-to-have personal preference things onto

[odd crypt]

@stoic island can u make a build 600$ budget with a cpu cooler

[stoic island]

Second was just an example of what nice-to-have personal preference things I would add

:P

why tho

10400 low power as heck

[wooden flare]

but do you think that this would be a good PC for gaming? https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Taco8954/saved/#view=wwfY99

[stoic island]

3070 stock is just gone

that's why I did 5600xt as a placeholder in my lists

[wooden flare]

ik i can wait

[stoic island]

Oh then wait to buy everything until you get one

But make some edits like better PSU and better ram

and that'll be good