building-and-recc-chat

[deep skiff]

even a nzxt aio is usually overpriced ngl

[wanton cliff]

better than ROG

in terms of pricing, at least

[deep skiff]

true but just get a arctic freezer or ek aio for price/perf

[wanton cliff]

Budget and use?

[stoic island]

I know there is a keyboard

that's all

[still bay]

deff think creams are good lmao

[stoic island]

creams are good

jk

[wanton cliff]

My go-to in my head is usually NZXT, thats why I typed that

[still bay]

creams are only good if ur frankenswitching or if u REALLTY just love the osund

other than that they are scratchy and just not good

especially for prices

[stoic island]

I don't like linears either way

[still bay]

gat black inks are better 🤔

[exotic saddle]

Budget: 1.3k (not including the purchased items)
Use: Content creation, gaming, streaming, video editing, 3d rendering (basically everything you do on a computer)

[deep skiff]

haha nice joke

[still bay]

what joke

[tepid gyro]

Looking for some ram for a new pc build, I'd like 2x16gb 3600MHz, but idk which would fit to my build

[still bay]

@stoic island what is ur keyboard

[stoic island]

K552

:D

[exotic saddle]

k552 review?

[deep skiff]

broken in creams > black inks

[tepid gyro]

Got around a 200 dollar budget for ram

[stoic island]

bad

[exotic saddle]

I just bought it a few hours ago

u telling me k552 bad?

[still bay]

mmmm nah

[weak field]

um

[eager flower]

trident z royal 3600 mhz cl 16

[wanton cliff]

I suppose get a 5950x, and if you do then get 4x8 instead of 2x16

[exotic saddle]

rip my 38 bucks

[eager flower]

im joking

[weak field]

peripherals

[still bay]

pom housing is a scam

at the end of the daythey scratchy

even with lube sometimes

[weak field]

stop

[eager flower]

but you could get cl16 3600 mhz easily

[weak field]

peripherals

[deep skiff]

so are black inks just get ks3/cherry topped jwk

[still bay]

@stoic island membrane??

[eager flower]

probably trident z royal for RGB

[stoic island]

what

k552 is wacky outemu blues

[still bay]

what ar eu asking?

[deep skiff]

and thats why u break them in to get rid of scratchiness

[still bay]

ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

[stoic island]

on a bad board

[exotic saddle]

I'm going for the 3900x since im not gonna bother with finding a 3rd gen

[still bay]

no sir

creams are bad end of discussion

[stoic island]

def will not reccomend

[wanton cliff]

or just TridentZ, $200 is more than enough for 32 gigs in dual channel at 3600mhz, cl16

[still bay]

theres no reason to get creams unless u love the sound or are frankenswitching

[wanton cliff]

ok then, I don't have any problems with your build

[still bay]

even still

[exotic saddle]

trident z is a meh for me in terms of looks

[deep skiff]

sure have fun with ur $.75 black inks when you can get ks3 yellows for $.20

[exotic saddle]

it just doesn't fit my look

too fancy

[still bay]

lmao ks3 yellows are just not better than gat black inks

idk where u got that idea from

[wanton cliff]

TridentZ or TridentZ Royal?

[exotic saddle]

the ones that are silver and crystaly

[stoic island]

cheaper

[little osprey]

Oof, they dont have any nzxt aio's on part picker, fuckkkk

[still bay]

yellows are just not better

[deep skiff]

theyre on par for a third of the price so thats better in my book

[tepid gyro]

Motherboard is an Asus B450-H

[still bay]

for the price they are whatever

[tepid gyro]

Would it fit the motherboard?

[still bay]

but gat blacks are better

for .75 cents best linear

[tepid gyro]

First time building, I know nooooothing

[stoic island]

@little osprey just don't use NZXT AIOs

[deep skiff]

how are they better :/

[wanton cliff]

B450 uses DIMM.2, everything DDR4 would fit

[still bay]

wdym how are they better?

[little osprey]

Oh, so I can say fuckkkkk but not one k lmaooo

[deep skiff]

exactly what i asked

[stoic island]

in what way are they better

:P

[tepid gyro]

Lovely, thank you a ton

[little osprey]

@stoic island what brand then?

[wanton cliff]

Just make sure you put them in the second and fourth slots

[still bay]

smoothness? spring quality? stability of stem?

[stoic island]

As we said before, Arctic freezer ii and EK-AIO

[still bay]

less scratchy?

[deep skiff]

black ink springs

[still bay]

u really think yellow springs are better than black inks ur a joke lmao

[stoic island]

no u

[deep skiff]

i cant even get the ping out with a large amount of 205g0

[wanton cliff]

Can yall take this to #peripherals-and-displays or #electronics or something?

[exotic saddle]

Can someone help me choose a motherboard?

[still bay]

tf u mean large amount

[stoic island]

Nachos never said they were better

[still bay]

thatsn ot how lubing works

[stoic island]

they're just on par

for much cheaper

[deep skiff]

literally spring weight is a preference what is in ur head 4 leaves of lettuce

[weak field]

please go to peripherals this is clogging up the build chat

[still bay]

no kidding

[wanton cliff]

You have an X570 MEG, right? you will be perfectly fine

[stoic island]

swap the spring >:P

[exotic saddle]

I know but any cheaper options?

[still bay]

k then just frankenswitch it

[stoic island]

yes

[still bay]

at that point its not the same switch

for the price of gat blacks they are the best linears

[deep skiff]

:\

[still bay]

yellows for 20 cents are great butj ust not compared to black inks

[stoic island]

"for the price" is the point Nachos has issues with I believe

[wanton cliff]

X570 TUF is good

[still bay]

if ur not willing to spend more than 20 cents on a switch what kind of custom keyboard are u getting

[stoic island]

afaik black inks are great

but eh

[wanton cliff]

WiFi is optional

[exotic saddle]

and its as good?

[deep skiff]

fine then if you want non cheap things cherry topped eg v2 beat literally any other linear for less than the price of black inks

[stoic island]

@exotic saddle Personally a issue I'd say with X570-plus is there's no bios flashback

[still bay]

wha?

ill be honest i odnt understand what ur saying

[stoic island]

everglide v2

[still bay]

frankenswitching ?

[wanton cliff]

@still bay @stoic island @deep skiff I swear to god, PLEASE take this to #peripherals-and-displays , its clogging up build chat WHERE THERE ARE ACTUALLY PEOPLE TRYING TO GET BUILD ADVICE

[stoic island]

:P

they invaded my home turf

not my fault

[deep skiff]

almost like i made that suggestion and ye said "make me" or something

[still bay]

it osunds like u guys ar talking about mobo so go to #cpus-mobo-and-memory

[exotic saddle]

@wanton cliff Do you have another recommendation?

[still bay]

i never said that?

u never said lets move to peripherals

[wanton cliff]

Like I said, X570 TUF is good. You wanted a cheaper option, right?

[exotic saddle]

yes

it just looks like a big gap

since its a $160 difference

but thank you nonetheless

[wanton cliff]

#building-and-recc-chat message

[still bay]

i wasnt talking to him

i was talking to mr1111 whne h said 5 pin is better for stability

[still roost]

ye#9188 has been warned

Reason: Duplicated text

[still bay]

i was having a conversation with mr1111 not him

[wanton cliff]

The one you chose is on the high end of X570, cant really get better

so

yeah

X570 TUF is still an X570 mobo, still gud

and suddenly, #building-and-recc-chat is dead

[exotic saddle]

oh okay thank you

[still bay]

bc once u move channels the discussion dies out

[exotic saddle]

A question regarding ram (sorry im new to this thing)

[wanton cliff]

no prob

[exotic saddle]

As long as my ram is 3600mhz, 2x18gb (looking for that) it doesn't matter what brand I buy right?

disregarding looks

[wanton cliff]

2x18?

[exotic saddle]

8*

[wanton cliff]

you mean 2x16?

[exotic saddle]

[wanton cliff]

oh

[exotic saddle]

2x16 actually

imma go 32gb

[still bay]

well make sure its cl16 first off

[wanton cliff]

no it doesnt matter as long as it is DDR4

and yeah CL16

[exotic saddle]

Oh okay

[wanton cliff]

I was going to say that as well

[exotic saddle]

wait so cl18 isn't > than cl16?

ive been lied to

[wanton cliff]

with CAS Latency, lower is better

[exotic saddle]

ah i see

[wanton cliff]

the number is the amount of nanoseconds it takes for an action to occur in your RAM or something like that

I dont know all the technical details

[exotic saddle]

ah ok ty

[wanton cliff]

np

[still bay]

lower is better

[exotic saddle]

Another question, how much of a beast do I need for a 850w psu?

[still bay]

yeah its the timing

[exotic saddle]

My friend told me 850 is overkill

[still bay]

for what build

[wanton cliff]

define beast

[exotic saddle]

My planned specs are:

rtx 3080, 3900x, sabrent m.2 (x1), with the 32gb ram

[still bay]

u could get away with 750 but 850 will have u a gateway for upgrades

[exotic saddle]

Would that require a 850?

[still bay]

yeah go for 850

750 will be close

also its like 20 bucks more

[wanton cliff]

RAM and SSD arent usually large factors when looking at a PSU, its defenitely mostly CPU and GPU

[exotic saddle]

Oh okay

[wanton cliff]

and one of the things its reccommended you overcompensate with

[still bay]

yeah other stuff really doesnt draw too much power

[exotic saddle]

This was what I was recommended

Sucks its out of stock

Told me its better than corsair

[wanton cliff]

Never heard of Enermax?

[exotic saddle]

nah

[wanton cliff]

Corsair, EVGA, and Seasonic are all really gud PSU brands

especially Seasonic, although their stuff gets a bit pricey

[still bay]

if u go corsair make sure u do RMx not RM

[wanton cliff]

I mean Ive never heard of Enermax

[still bay]

rm has chinese caps whereas rmx has japenese caps and 10 yr warrenty

[wanton cliff]

Japan > China

[exotic saddle]

okie

Air cooling or water cooling with my build?

[wanton cliff]

and at 850 an 80+ gold certification is minimum

[exotic saddle]

I wanna go air bc im scared the water might leak but I wanna go water for efficiency

I don't know if its worth the risk

[wanton cliff]

Air and cooling both accomplish the same things

anyone in this chat would tell you that

most even puke at water for some reason

[exotic saddle]

Oh ok

[still bay]

so difference is basically looks and price

to my knowledge there is almost no difference in perforamnce

[exotic saddle]

just a noctua fan will do right

linus seems to love them

[still bay]

what cpu

obv dont pay that price btw

[exotic saddle]

3900x

[wanton cliff]

Although on a TRX40 socket water might be the way to go

[still bay]

yeah

thread ripper is different haha

[exotic saddle]

okay 2 more questoins

[still bay]

@exotic saddle im not sure about coolers but make sure u check itll fit over ur ram

[exotic saddle]

kk

[wheat coral]

Just look at the tierlist

[still bay]

ik the NH-D15 is the best probably aircooler?

just a guess

[wheat coral]

For what cpu jesus

[still bay]

3900x

[wheat coral]

Yeah no

You dont need a d15

[exotic saddle]

3900x

[still bay]

no

u12a

[exotic saddle]

so you know how theres this gpu slot

[still bay]

yes

[wheat coral]

Or a u12 a

A 160$ cooler

Really

-__-

[still bay]

talk to him not me

[exotic saddle]

and i recently got a 3080 and saw how big it is

How does the thing like not sag

[wanton cliff]

nothing compared to 3090 or Merc 319

[exotic saddle]

Do i need to put something under it?

[still bay]

it will sag

u can buy a support thing

its just aesthetics

[wanton cliff]

or get a string

[latent condor]

is a i5 10400f and a gtx 1650 ti a good combo?

[exotic saddle]

Nothing bad if I put like a stick under the opposite end right

[still bay]

yeah but make sure u dont mess up the fan

[wanton cliff]

I dont know enough about intel. Im pretty sure it sounds good?

[still bay]

and that u dont over bend it and stuff

[wanton cliff]

ye do you know anything about intel?

[wheat coral]

No

[wanton cliff]

shintel

[wheat coral]

I wouldnt go for that

[still bay]

what?

[wheat coral]

Try a 1660s or 1660ti

[wanton cliff]

why do you have tsu in your name and the rest english and cyrillic letters

[fringe hatch]

@neon condor what RGB fans are those on the build you posted a few days ago? sorry for the ping btw

[wheat coral]

why do you have tsu in your name and the rest english and cyrillic letters
@wanton cliff so i cant be pinged as easily

[wanton cliff]

I mean as long as people know the katakana

[exotic saddle]

can just copy the id

[wheat coral]

I agree with this btw

[still bay]

oof

[exotic saddle]

That's a cool extension, what's it called?

[wanton cliff]

what?

[still bay]

im not boutta get banned nvm

[exotic saddle]

oh is that against tos

[wanton cliff]

whats a cool extension?

[wheat coral]

Potentially

[exotic saddle]

The join and creation time on the profile

[still bay]

ik a bot can say it

[wanton cliff]

I didnt add that

[wheat coral]

[wanton cliff]

thats just discord

[exotic saddle]

Would be useful for moderation purposes

[still bay]

dont care about ur sexuality its a tech server

[wanton cliff]

So... Electronics, am I right?

[still bay]

;)

[wanton cliff]

How fast do you think a 3990x is compared to a quantum computer?

obviously the quantum computer is going to be much better but it is a question I want to ask

[exotic saddle]

"Google announced it has a quantum computer that is 100 million times faster than any classical computer in its lab. Every day, we produce 2.5 exabytes of data. That number is equivalent to the content on 5 million laptops." - Google

[slim escarp]

Cyber Monday this year was awesome I saved like $50 dollars on a psu, case and some other things now I just have wait for everything to go back in stock and have a decent price then I can build my pc

[wanton cliff]

2.5 exabytes

hot damn

[wanton cliff]

what PSU and case?

[exotic saddle]

It was awesome for me too everything on my list went out of stock

except the sabrent m.2, it was 53% off

[wanton cliff]

I got a 970 EVO Plus for $50 off

[slim escarp]

Well I’m buying I cheap computer so I got like 20 dollars off of the cooler master mb11l I think it’s called then I got 10 dollars off the br500 psu and I got a 50 dollar 500gb which makes Samsung not overpriced

I think it was a 860 evo

[wanton cliff]

860 is good, M.2 is easier to install tho

if more expensive than SATA

[slim escarp]

Well the case has 2 ssd slots in the front of the case so I got that and my cousin gave me some cheap Kingston one just so they are both filled and it doesn’t look like something is missing

[wanton cliff]

thats a horrible mindset lmao

"something looks missing so Im going to spend $200+ to fill it in"

[slim escarp]

Well the ssd cost 20 dollars on Amazon and my cousin builds pc and he said he won’t use it because he stopped building budget and it kinda sucks so I got it for free

[wanton cliff]

size of the SSD?

[little osprey]

Mostly likely a a200

[wanton cliff]

talking about Gb

[slim escarp]

120gb it’s really small I’m saving up for the hard drive to go with the other ssd or maybe I’ll just buy a m.2

[little osprey]

He said 20$ so it's probally a 120gb a400

[slim escarp]

Idk which one but I know it’s 120gb

[wanton cliff]

oh

nevermind then

tiny SSD

what is your budget?

[little osprey]

Evga br 500w?

[wanton cliff]

let him finish typing first

[slim escarp]

$600 I know it’s cheap but I’m only 14 and it’s my first pc once I get a job I’ll save up for I better one it’s just I’m not a huge gamer so I don’t need to build something that can run amazing FPS at 4K

And yes @little osprey

[little osprey]

Nice.

Also 600$ isn't cheap lol.

[wanton cliff]

Linus is doing a giveaway

might as well enter

newest video

[little osprey]

Meh, i never win giveaways tho.

[slim escarp]

Ok but the chances of winning.00001

[wanton cliff]

yeah but might as well enter

[slim escarp]

Yeah you never know

[little osprey]

Btw, giveaway of what?

Gpu?

[wanton cliff]

3000 series, yeah

[little osprey]

Ah

[slim escarp]

Well I’ll brb I started the shower I few minutes ago but still haven’t gotten in

[wanton cliff]

aight

[wanton cliff]

MSI is giving away 4(?) GPUs

or something like that

is a 3800x PCIe gen4 worthy?

[small osprey]

they are??

[wanton cliff]

newest video

50 minutes ago

give or take

LinusTechTips

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFUrdc8CEoo

[little osprey]

Nice but i guess it is region locked though

[wanton cliff]

is it?

lucky I live in the US then

[wanton cliff]

Use a VPN, if you win put in the address of a US friend and then have them ship it to you

[unique gazelle]

hey guys

any ideas as to how I can get a 3070 and a 5600x... been trying to help friend get pc supplies and those are the only two things needed

[wanton cliff]

you cant lmao

[unique gazelle]

i know

[wanton cliff]

set up a newegg bot I guess

[unique gazelle]

im just trying to save my sanity lol

[little osprey]

Nah too.much effort and i live in brazil so shipping would be very expensive

[unique gazelle]

i not smart enough to set up newegg bot lol

[wanton cliff]

Worth it for a 3080 or 90

even a 3070

[unique gazelle]

yerp

[little osprey]

Nah, i wouldn't win tho

[wanton cliff]

https://github.com/Ataraksia/NeweggBot

directions included

[unique gazelle]

it stinks bc we are realizing now that i could've bought the gpu and cpu for him and then he couldve just payed me back bc he didnt have his debit card yet

[little osprey]

Also check out for plugins or sites that people make to check if X stuff is on stock

[unique gazelle]

oke, thanks very much

[small osprey]

what

why are u promoting bots

[small osprey]

what is this

[wanton cliff]

Newegg bot

[whole harbor]

SO SAD

[unique gazelle]

IM SAD

[whole harbor]

the 3100 just came in stock

[unique gazelle]

WE ALL SAD

[whole harbor]

for $99

[small osprey]

imagine using a bot

[unique gazelle]

3100????

[whole harbor]

NOW ITs gone

😦

[wanton cliff]

oh no

[whole harbor]

FRIKIN BOTS

https://tenor.com/view/fozzy-fuck-bar-i-fucked-up-facepalm-gif-4950549

Bots

[wanton cliff]

fight fire with fire

[small osprey]

no

[wanton cliff]

set one up yerself

[small osprey]

u fight fire with water

aka reporting bots

[little osprey]

everyone trying to buy their stuff and i am here with a i3 2100 and 750 ti watching all of this.

[wanton cliff]

yeah but there is no water to this fire

[whole harbor]

Dont think thats how itngoes

@small osprey

[unique gazelle]

i just wouldnt be able to live with myself knowing that I set up a bot or somethin

[wanton cliff]

as long as you arent scalping

cus thats an unforgiveable sin

straight to the boiler room of hell

[whole harbor]

Frick these bots

I JUST WANT MY 3100

[little osprey]

😔

[wanton cliff]

I just want a 6800XT

[whole harbor]

Stfu

Ur rich

[wanton cliff]

nah

[whole harbor]

https://tenor.com/view/blue-cry-sad-bad-day-gif-5337197

[wanton cliff]

im flat broke boi

[whole harbor]

6800xt

^

[wanton cliff]

Just spent all my money on an Index

[whole harbor]

that cost more than my pc built

Build

[slim escarp]

I’m back

[wanton cliff]

a 6800XT or an Index @whole harbor

[whole harbor]

6800

[wanton cliff]

6800 or 6800XT?

[whole harbor]

Xt

[wanton cliff]

dang bro

specs?

[whole harbor]

How much 6800xt cost

Br

$650 right

?

[wanton cliff]

give or take

usually give

[whole harbor]

$100 cpu

3100

$230 1660 super

$40 cougar vte 500w bronze

$50 cl16 3200 16gb ram

$55 cougar mx330-g-air

$55 120gb ssd

Oops

[little osprey]

Nice

[whole harbor]

Not $55

$20

$50 2tb hdd

[little osprey]

A400?

[whole harbor]

Inland pro

[little osprey]

Uh...never heard of

[whole harbor]

lul

[hollow grail]

i like inland

[rigid portal]

I can’t connect my fan because of the massive 8 pin connector on my mobo...

What do...

These two parts need to align but

[slim escarp]

Bro who knew a 20 dollar headset felt like a pillow

[rigid portal]

This is in the way...

fan is too fattttt

Can I just cut off the clamp on the connector

[foggy hazel]

short answer: no

[rigid portal]

Welp

[foggy hazel]

long answer: you can, but do you really think its a good idea to cut of the latch that ensures that plug is where its supposed to be?

[rigid portal]

Yes but how else would I get the fan in there

NVM

I CAN LIKE

FORCE IT IN

[foggy hazel]

your machine will not melt from not having that fan there for now

[rigid portal]

I AINT GETTING NO VIDEO OUTPUT THO KMS

[wanton cliff]

are you plugging into the graphics card?

[rigid portal]

Yeah, HDMI

[wanton cliff]

try dp?

[rigid portal]

Don’t got a display for that

[wanton cliff]

might be a faulty card/monitor

try plugging something else (like a laptop) into it

to test

@rigid portal you got something like that?

[rigid portal]

I suppose I can try my laptop

[wanton cliff]

even if it isnt high performance at least you know it works

[rigid portal]

Does it matter if I connect it through the GPU directly or the rear I/O?

[wanton cliff]

5600x doesnt have integrated graphics

so yes in that regard

but also CPU graphics arent GPU graphics

you wouldnt be using your GPU

gots to plug it directly into GPU

[rigid portal]

Okie

My laptop is connected to the PC, but nothing seems to happen

[wanton cliff]

nonono

to the monitor

[rigid portal]

Oh LMAO

Yup monitor works

[wanton cliff]

ok

you might have a dead card

[rigid portal]

WELP

[wanton cliff]

maybe

worst case scenario

[rigid portal]

It arrived Sunday brand new

[wanton cliff]

try plugging the pc into a tv or smthn

[rigid portal]

That would be painful

Oh no I'm trying a tv as that's the only HDMI capable monitor I got

[wanton cliff]

bruh moment when he has a 5700xt but not a display more than 60hz

please tell me its at least 4k

[rigid portal]

;~;

[small osprey]

check all ur connections

[wanton cliff]

yeah that

[rigid portal]

I wish

[wanton cliff]

1080p at 60hz

huh

[small osprey]

lol

[wanton cliff]

on a 5700XT

[small osprey]

1080p 240 hz

1440p 144hz

4k 60hz

[rigid portal]

I am planning on buying a new one but it ain't coming any time soon

So

[wanton cliff]

best for a 5700xt imo

[rigid portal]

I just want to check if the PC works or not

[small osprey]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[wanton cliff]

got another TV?

[rigid portal]

nope

[wanton cliff]

friend's monitor?

even a neighbor or smthn?

[rigid portal]

Hmmmm

[slim escarp]

What happens if you put electrical tape over ketchup wires lol

[wanton cliff]

gud question

also cablemod.com

[slim escarp]

I have a fan that has ketchup wires so wire extensions won’t really do anything I don’t think

[wanton cliff]

dont they have replaceable cables?

or at the very least cable sleeves?

[slim escarp]

It was a 5 dollar fan so no

[wanton cliff]

im talking about cablemod

[slim escarp]

Oh idk

[wanton cliff]

what is your budget again?

[slim escarp]

600

[wanton cliff]

you can at the very least get some 15 dollar noctua fans for that

[slim escarp]

Well my case comes with two fans I just needed an exhaust so I just bought a really cheap one

[wanton cliff]

most cases (phanteks) come with an outtake fan already installed so 2 intakes would be gud

oh

what case for curiosity?

[slim escarp]

What do you think I should put the fans speed at

[wanton cliff]

mobo usually handles that itself

Bios at least

[slim escarp]

Oh

Idk

[wanton cliff]

if heat gets too big it turns it up I think

@rigid portal what were you going to say

[slim escarp]

That’s the only thing I’m worried about the bios and stuff because I know how to build a pc just don’t know how to do anything that includes software

[rigid portal]

I can't think of anyone

[wanton cliff]

excepting RAM, you can keep everything at stock speeds in BIOs

[slim escarp]

Why is there ketchup and mustard fans how much cheaper does it cost instead of making black ones

[wanton cliff]

idk

marketing

people dont like ketchup and mustard and it costs less than a penny to add or take away so they hold it over people

"pay more for black wires"

[slim escarp]

Yeah but I mean if there are things cheaper that use black wires wouldn’t that make some people go cheaper than more expensive which would overall increase sales for the cheaper items

[wanton cliff]

idk

[slim escarp]

I’m taking about company that only sell cheap stuff

[wanton cliff]

all I know is that people dont like ketchup and mustard cables

[fringe hatch]

@rigid portal can you link the card?

[wanton cliff]

its a 5700xt

[fringe hatch]

I feel like it's supposed to light up

[slim escarp]

This fan comes with a 3 pin and mollex do I have to plug both in

[fringe hatch]

no

[wanton cliff]

I think just the 3 pin

[fringe hatch]

just one or the other

[wanton cliff]

yeah

exactly

[slim escarp]

I’ll probably just plug the mollex in because then the wires will be at the back of the case

[fringe hatch]

wait traa what are you saying yeah to lmao

[wanton cliff]

Also ive been told Sennheiser is pretty bad. What is your opinion, Sennheiser_Ninja?

[fringe hatch]

oh jeez

who told you that lmao

[wanton cliff]

someone on omegle

i didnt believe them because of the premium price

[fringe hatch]

I frankly love my sennheisers a lot, what brands did they recommend?

[rigid portal]

Ok I just noticed that my mobo's Q-LED is lit yellow, indicating I have a error with DRAM, what ever that means

[fringe hatch]

RAM problem

[wanton cliff]

reseat it first

[fringe hatch]

swap the sticks in different slots

^

reseat first

[wanton cliff]

or just reseat first

yeah

also Ninja I was agreeing with you earlier

[fringe hatch]

ahhh

so what other brands did that one guy reocmmend?

for headphones

[wanton cliff]

IDK

Razer?

[fringe hatch]

I really enjoy my 58Xs and a lot of others do too 😂 I'm gonna swap them for 6XXs actually

eww

EWWW

[wanton cliff]

oi, razer is gud

[fringe hatch]

THEY REALLY HAD THE AUDACITY TO SAY THAT

[wanton cliff]

not compared to sennheiser tho

[fringe hatch]

🤣 🤣 🤣

sorry not to razer being bat

bad*

though frankly ever since I bought any audiophile gear ever piece of gaming garbage sounded like just that, grabage

garbage*

but that's my opinion

[wanton cliff]

see, thats the thing

[fringe hatch]

not worth the price at all

[wanton cliff]

you are an audiophile

im a gamer

who wants gamer features

[fringe hatch]

but that doesn't mean you can't step into the audiophile world with something like the pc37x 🙂

[wanton cliff]

like THX Spatial Synapse and haptic feedback

[slim escarp]

Do I think my friend is stupid he just said you don’t need thermal paste it’s a waste of money so either I have the wrong idea here or my man is stupid

[wanton cliff]

you dont have to buy thermal paste

it comes with most coolers

only the really expensive ones dont have it

[slim escarp]

No I mean he says you don’t need it general

[wanton cliff]

his PC gon melt

[slim escarp]

He is buying a water cooler and he says he doesn’t want to spend 2 dollars on some paste

[fringe hatch]

well that's the thing, headphones with good soundstage and imaging will sound more surround than any "surround" feature

@slim escarp wanna make him mad?

[wanton cliff]

which cooler, it might be pre-applied

[slim escarp]

Sure

[fringe hatch]

tell him that water cooler comes pre-applied with thermal paste

[ripe river]

my pc ever so often when I try to boot, it will say I have the wrong boot drive selected. It is an easy fix to go back into the bios but then it will happen again after a couple of days

Any fixes?

[fringe hatch]

because almost every single one in existence does

[wanton cliff]

Every water cooler?

[fringe hatch]

almost every one

if not it comes with paste for you to apply

which cooler are they getting?

[wanton cliff]

@fierce vortex oi, I told you to join the chat

come on

[slim escarp]

He says he is buying the h150i elite

[fringe hatch]

oh yeah it comes pre applied

[slim escarp]

Should I ask him from who or do you know

[fierce vortex]

bro i dont have a comment im just enjoying

[fringe hatch]

as long as it's new then it comes pre applied

[wanton cliff]

havent you built like 69420 computers?

[hollow grail]

^^^

youll be fine if its new

[fierce vortex]

yeah but its funny watching this

[fringe hatch]

lmao how is it funny

[wanton cliff]

"my friend says you dont need thermal paste"

thats how

[hollow grail]

lmao

[wanton cliff]

his CPU gon melt

[hollow grail]

yeah i love lurking here ppl say funny stuff

[fierce vortex]

honestly you dont need the thermal paste

[wanton cliff]

BRUH

[wanton cliff]

please tell me you are either joking or talking about pre-applied thermal paste

[hollow grail]

i thought the paste was just sent with the cooler as a nice little snack

[fierce vortex]

if its not pre applied then you do need it

[rough oriole]

does the msi mpg B550 gaming plus support first gen ryzen?

[stoic island]

no

it doesn't support first or second gen

[wanton cliff]

oops I thought that said dont

[hollow grail]

lol

[cursive magnet]

@rough oriole You gotta get an x570 chip to support 2nd gen

[little osprey]

Yep but it is awlays nice to have some for maintance.

[wanton cliff]

2nd gen being Zen+, right?

[little osprey]

2nd gen is zen+ with 3rd gen begin zen2 with exception of the G(apu) series

[wanton cliff]

thats what I thought

[rigid portal]

I can't solve the damn DRAM problem...

[dreamy canopy]

hey guys

question

[fringe hatch]

@rigid portal would love to help but I gotta work on my finals I'm sorry 😦

[wanton cliff]

your sure you heard the click when you pushed the RAM in?

[dreamy canopy]

is the Cooler Master ML120L RGB V2 good?

[stoic island]

Zen, Zen+, Zen 2, Zen 3 is the order of the architectures

[fringe hatch]

if I get a chance I will have a look

[rigid portal]

Good luck sir

[rigid portal]

Yeah...

[fringe hatch]

thank you ♥️

[hollow grail]

click on both ends?

[stoic island]

dunno man

more reset cmos

[wanton cliff]

and no matter how much force you apply, it doesnt do another click?

[subtle halo]

see people are here

[rigid portal]

I guess I will give it another try

[dreamy canopy]

i really need to know if the ML120L RGB V2 would be good for a 5800x

[wanton cliff]

he hasnt messed with Bios yet, shouldnt be an issue

[stoic island]

what

reset bios can fix things even without even booting

[wanton cliff]

he is just trying to get it to display something for the first time

[stoic island]

Yes

[wanton cliff]

ok

[stoic island]

I literally had to reset cmos before my first post

[wanton cliff]

@rigid portal reset Cmos then

[rigid portal]

Uhhh

ok I will try

[wanton cliff]

On yt there should be a guide

pretty easy thing to do

[hollow grail]

just remove cmos and powercycle

[stoic island]

or jumper method

[hollow grail]

or jumper yeah

[wanton cliff]

dont even need to powercycle most of the time

[hollow grail]

nice hands

[honest charm]

Anybody have one of these around?

[dreamy canopy]

can someone please help me out

[wanton cliff]

sexy hands

[honest charm]

Cannot find one anywhere

[hollow grail]

hot

[stoic island]

I mean

[wanton cliff]

whats your question, soldier?

[stoic island]

power cycle is the point of reset cmos

[dreamy canopy]

the molex or 9pin?

[fringe hatch]

@dreamy canopy sorry I didn't see your thing, it's not bad

[stoic island]

you're tryna get the power out

[dreamy canopy]

is the ML120L RGB V2 enough to cool a 5800x

[stoic island]

:P

[wanton cliff]

by that I mean manual power cycle

[honest charm]

It’s a moles to a 4 pin rgb. It gives power to my rgb board

[dreamy canopy]

like, will it be better than my hyper 212

[fringe hatch]

tbh they're all pretty similar, but I would lean towards a triple fan

[honest charm]

Molex*

[stoic island]

@dreamy canopy Why a 120mm aio

It's just

not a good idea

[dreamy canopy]

my case doesn't have much space

[fringe hatch]

alright finals time

GL ladies and gents!

[stoic island]

@dreamy canopy what case

[wanton cliff]

what case?

[fringe hatch]

if you need me @ me

[stoic island]

bigger air cooler is gonna do well

[wanton cliff]

scythe mugen 5

[dreamy canopy]

didn't know i should get one with a shroud so a focus g

[stoic island]

you don't need a shroud

NH-U12a works

[wanton cliff]

should vs need

[stoic island]

Fuma 2

Ninja 5

[wanton cliff]

Scythe Mugen 5

[stoic island]

bunch of good coolers that'll do 5800xt well

Mugen 5 is a weird place imo

[honest charm]

It’s a molex to a 4 pin female rgb board power cable

[wanton cliff]

great perf tho

[stoic island]

just like 10$ more and you get ninja 5/fuma 2

[dreamy canopy]

a u12a is really expensive rn

$160

[stoic island]

@dreamy canopy it's still 100$ on newegg

[wanton cliff]

and kinda big if my memory serves correct, no?

[dreamy canopy]

i really want rgb on my fans, and rgb is pretty expensive

[wanton cliff]

aftermarket fans do RGB

[dreamy canopy]

at least, aios with argb

i guess

[stoic island]

No rgb

[wanton cliff]

you dont usually need the fan that comes with the cooler

you can replace it

[dreamy canopy]

but what would i do with the fan with the aio

[stoic island]

@wanton cliff I disagree

[wanton cliff]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

on?

[stoic island]

half the performance on any cooler comes from the fan

[wanton cliff]

but usually they can be replaced with a different fan

[stoic island]

replace the P12 on the Arctic freezer ii with any random rgb fan and I swear perf will drop

[wanton cliff]

well yeah no sh*t

[stoic island]

@wanton cliff fans are designed to do specific things

[dreamy canopy]

is a sickleflow good?

[wanton cliff]

but if you need RGB and all the good coolers have no rgb

[stoic island]

great fans are on great coolers

[wanton cliff]

true that

[stoic island]

@dreamy canopy for aio? no

[dreamy canopy]

oof

[stoic island]

AIOs need pressure optimized fans for good performance

not airflow

[dreamy canopy]

the issue is that i don't know where I'd put the aio

[stoic island]

that's why Freezer ii is so good

Just don't get an aio

[dreamy canopy]

considering that my computer is laying on its side

the freezer II?

by arctic?

[stoic island]

sideways is gonna make it really really annoying

[wanton cliff]

aios are only good if 240mm or more

dont get a single fan AIO

[stoic island]

because the tube will have to be above the pump

causing issues

[dreamy canopy]

what's a good air cooler that isn't too expensive and doesn't have weird mounting

[wanton cliff]

Scythe Mugen 5

[stoic island]

NH-U12a

[dreamy canopy]

what's the mounting on the u12a

[wanton cliff]

anything that @stoic island listed above

[stoic island]

It's amazing

Noctua's mounting is practically fool proof :P

[dreamy canopy]

does it need the stock brackets

[wanton cliff]

noctua makes good fans

and coolers

but especially fans

[honest charm]

My MI240I is great for me and my 5800x

[dreamy canopy]

i have multiple noctua fans in my computer

[wanton cliff]

and they are gud

no?

[dreamy canopy]

yes

[stoic island]

it takes the stock backplate

[dreamy canopy]

the what?

[wanton cliff]

saves you trouble

[stoic island]

they use this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgRC6AzYhsY

[wanton cliff]

I saw that allen wrench and immediately thought of the verge

[stoic island]

lmao

it's not an allen wrench

it's a long screwdriver

[wanton cliff]

whatever its called

[dreamy canopy]

so what the motherboard comes with

[stoic island]

@wanton cliff it's a screwdriver

that comes with the cooler

Watch the vid

[dreamy canopy]

its tweezers

[wanton cliff]

grounding bracelet

[dreamy canopy]

oh THAT

[stoic island]

no need

[dreamy canopy]

i still have that

but i'd have to take the motherboard out of the case, right?

[wanton cliff]

yeah

[stoic island]

I mean

what doesn't

[dreamy canopy]

forgot not to swear

[wanton cliff]

wait how did wegg not kill you

[dreamy canopy]

idk

[stoic island]

wegg will kill you

[wanton cliff]

wegg will destroy your soul

like a .50 ACP

[stoic island]

no

[dreamy canopy]

the issue is that the focus g has TERRIBLE cable management

[stoic island]

lich you will be

[dreamy canopy]

i mean

[stoic island]

@dreamy canopy stuff&go

I have a focus g

I know

[dreamy canopy]

i tried that

still doesn't look good

[wanton cliff]

the secret to cable management: "if you cant see it, it doesnt exist"

[stoic island]

You can stuff it in the back

[dreamy canopy]

with a semi modular

not the pcie cables

[wanton cliff]

PCIe cables?

jesus ive been here for 6 hours now

wth

[stoic island]

I mean

eh

it works

looks don't matter :P

[dreamy canopy]

so the u12-a would be good?

[stoic island]

NH-U12a

[dreamy canopy]

yeah

kinda looks bad but who cares

[stoic island]

It's great

[dreamy canopy]

it's under my desk anyway

[stoic island]

Better for clearance than D15

[dreamy canopy]

oh damn it's dual fan too

[stoic island]

yes

[wanton cliff]

Can I screw my 970 EVO Plus down with scotch tape while I wait for some M.2 screws in the mail?

[stoic island]

https://www.newegg.com/noctua-nh-u12a/p/13C-0005-00187

I mean, you COULD

just not perfect

[wanton cliff]

MinorMcgyverMoment™️

[dreamy canopy]

also, is 4 case fans as intake and one noctua f12 industialppc-3000 as exhaust good?

[stoic island]

I mean

ippc fans loud asf

[wanton cliff]

I would do 1:2 in that case

but sure

[dreamy canopy]

i don't really hear it with my headphones

[wanton cliff]

anyways i gots homework to do

[dreamy canopy]

ight

[wanton cliff]

catch you all later

actually before I go, @stoic island : how would I go about getting 40 gigs in pictures off of my dad's old emachine without killing his CPU?

already tried flash drive

[stoic island]

Can it connect to the Internet?

[wanton cliff]

yes

barely

[stoic island]

Any file sharing service work?

[wanton cliff]

chrome takes 2 minutes to load

I suppose

[stoic island]

hm

How is the pictures stored?

[wanton cliff]

the internet itself is 300mbs but an Athlon II can only compress so much

HDD

5400RPM

[stoic island]

regular?

[wanton cliff]

yeah

[stoic island]

(SATA?)

[wanton cliff]

idk

[stoic island]

just slap it in another machine

[wanton cliff]

it has windows on it

[stoic island]

Yea

[wanton cliff]

how would that work if my SSD is my boot device?

[stoic island]

as long as the SSD is higher on the boot order

[wanton cliff]

ok

[stoic island]

it'll boot off the SSD and you can read everything on the hDD

[dreamy canopy]

make sure it's set in the bios to use the ssd

[stoic island]

tho drive lettering might be messy, files should still be accessible

[wanton cliff]

Im kinda afraid to take it out ngl

Sata was standard 15 years ago, right?

[toxic widget]

Y’all think a RTX 3070 w/ R7 3800x would be a good combo?

[wanton cliff]

yes

[stoic island]

15 years might be like sas

[dreamy canopy]

def not a bad one

[stoic island]

lemme check when sata was

[dreamy canopy]

ide?

20 years ago

[stoic island]

2000 is the start of SATA

[wanton cliff]

ok gud

so it should work

[dreamy canopy]

yeah

it'll be really slow

probably running sata 2

[stoic island]

yea there's also pata lmao

forgot about that one

[dreamy canopy]

wh-

[wanton cliff]

its supposed to be a christmas present tho and I want it to be ready when he has it

E-Machines probs used sata right?

[dreamy canopy]

oh fast enough to do it within like 24 hours for sure

[stoic island]

just open it up and see how they look

[dreamy canopy]

maybe a couple hours

max of like 15 hours to transfer every pic

[wanton cliff]

40 gigs

hot damn

[stoic island]

depends on the speed

[wanton cliff]

risk of corruption/losing files?

[dreamy canopy]

it's likely sata 3 gb/s

[stoic island]

dunno

[dreamy canopy]

damn near 0

[stoic island]

maybe it's not

[dreamy canopy]

unless you have power outages

[wanton cliff]

gud

[stoic island]

so pull it out and see what it is

[wanton cliff]

not rn

[dreamy canopy]

if it's sata 6 gig, then a max of 8 hours

[wanton cliff]

dad still uses it all the time for work

[dreamy canopy]

it should be pretty quick tho

[wanton cliff]

emails and such

[stoic island]

I mean

old hdd's aren't that fast

who knows

[wanton cliff]

its 5400RPM

according to task manager

[stoic island]

ye I mean protocol wise

it didn't fill the entire bandwidth

[wanton cliff]

ye

alright

guess imma have to pull it out

thanks

see ya

[dreamy canopy]

so i plan on getting a nh-u12a

for christmas

but should i get my mom to buy it, or should i buy it myself

time to play some payday 2

[normal osprey]

Whatd the first piece you buy when building a pc

[stoic island]

all of them

[normal osprey]

Got a budget of 1500$

[stoic island]

it's every piece or nothing

But seriously buy everything at once whenever possible

today that's gonna vary off GPU/CPU stock, so whenever you get your hands on one, get everything else

[normal osprey]

Appreciate it

When building a gaming pc the graphic card is what you want most of your money spent on or no?

[stoic island]

Yes

[normal osprey]

Cpu 2nd ?

[stoic island]

Well, depends on the CPU

like a 5600x stock is horrible, just like RTX 30xx and RX 6xxx

[still roost]

Kɪɴɢʟᴏᴜɪs_ᴄʟxxɪɪ#3555 has been warned

Reason: Duplicated text

[hollow grail]

sad

[normal osprey]

Amd or intel

Or are they neck and neck

[stoic island]

AMD currently ahead

but pricing is all gone

if you get a RTX 30xx GPU and can't get your hand on a Ryzen 5xxx chip, go Intel, because Intel 10th gen beats Ryzen 3xxx easily

[normal osprey]

My mind is boggled

This my first pc build

[slim escarp]

Hey mine too

[vital pilot]

Would anyone be willing to give some feedback on this build? ty :)

ASRock AM4/X570M
RTX 3080
Ryzen 9 5900X
---alt: Ryzen 5 5600X
EVGA 210-GQ-1000-V1 80+ Gold
Corsair Vengeance LPX 2x16GB DDR4 3200 C16
Intel® SSD 760p 1.024 TB

[stoic island]

@vital pilot gonna suggest
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/

First thought is why mATX..?

[vital pilot]

Building a small form factor for college

[stoic island]

@vital pilot I mean, mATX isn't really small, you up for some ITX building? >:D

[vital pilot]

this is the case i was thinking about using https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-MasterBox-Ventilation-Tempered/dp/B07PDT745F

[stoic island]

it's kinda close to the size of atx cases ngl

I want to suggest looking into an ITX build with NR200 :D
https://www.newegg.com/white-cooler-master-masterbox-nr200-mini-itx-tower/p/N82E16811119408

[vital pilot]

Ill take a look at that ty :) and ill throw it into pcpartpicker and come back :p

[rigid portal]

I don't really understand how to reset CMOS..

Do you simply hold a metal object like a screwdriver aginst the two pins for a few seconds?

[ripe wedge]

well if its a desktop u take out the battery iirc but not 100% sure

some motherboards have dedicated buttons

[rigid portal]

To take out the bettery I need to remove the GPU, and I preferable don't want to do that..

I don't even know if this is doing anything lmao

[little leaf]

02

[stoic island]

meh

HMB

[vital pilot]

Okay I used that NR200 case you mentioned and swapped everything to be mini itx compatible. sadly means i have to get a new psu but its nbd https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zhd38J

[stoic island]

hm?

ima make my edits

host memory bus

uses host ram instead of dedicated dram

meh

I dislike it

it's not optimal, dram is best

no no no

[rigid portal]

I tried pushing in the RAM sticks further, I tried the jumper method, I tried removing the battery, and I still get the DRAM problem

[still roost]

Mocco#0101 has been warned

Reason: Duplicated text

[rigid portal]

[kind basin]

get new ram. easy, slightly pricey fix.

[rigid portal]

I don’t have money to spend on this pc anymore

[kind basin]

get more money.

[rigid portal]

That’s very helpful

[kind basin]

other than that i dont have any ideas

lol

[wanton cliff]

Ponzi scheme time

or MLM

or Pyramid Scheme

etc etc

[dense basalt]

i have a ryzen 7 3750h and a gtx 1650 laptop

i dont know why

but when i play games that are not even that hard on the cpu

i have moments when i have like 3 fps

the last like 10 seconds and its horrible