Yes.
#building-and-recc-chat
fast robin
Thx for letting me know
rough spruce
Thoughts?
little osprey
What gpu will be good for 240hz
real flicker
ive got a couple of there fans and there so loud
versed rock
RTX 3070.
rough spruce
Dang right james
little osprey
Any other ones
little osprey
No
hasty gyro
Yooooooo you went old fashioned
idle hawk
But, 240Hz makes no sense
i disagree
versed rock
Get 1440p 144hz then.
hasty gyro
Psu on the top
rough spruce
Had no other options
little osprey
With what gpu
rough spruce
versed rock
RTX 3070
little osprey
But that expensive in cad
versed rock
¯_(ツ)_/¯
hasty gyro
Yep
idle hawk
240hz has a higher response time in certain games
hasty gyro
750 cad
versed rock
Wait then.
hasty gyro
Yeah it does
little osprey
Ya expensive
versed rock
It'll go down
hasty gyro
It’s also not worth it
versed rock
Scalpers will stop scalping
hasty gyro
240hz vs 144hz isnt that much
little osprey
What abt 5700XT
idle hawk
its worth it to me cause more response time= faster reaction time = better pew pew
versed rock
Old hat
hasty gyro
No no, there’s a store in Canada that offers back orders and it costs 750 on the store
versed rock
5700XT is old hat.
rough spruce
I had to absolutely hack the case apart.
Had to cut fan holes, cable routing holes, front io space.
Because even tho it’s a sleeper it has full front USB 3.0, audio and sd card reader @hasty gyro
real flicker
ive got the 5700xt and i love it
rough spruce
My sleeper had a 5700 non xt
real flicker
does everything that i need it to do
hasty gyro
But keep pc builds on #build-pics
little osprey
Can anyone make me a list again for 2k cad with pherpials
rough spruce
I love it too
idle hawk
i have a triple monitor setup i have a 75hz 144hz and a 240hz
my 240hz is my main monitor for games
and i play alot of valorant
versed rock
God bless, those bezels must be really mis-matched.
idle hawk
2 acers and one alienware
little osprey
Poop stain
versed rock
5600X + 3070 is pretty good for that.
hasty gyro
But if I can get something that’s cheaper then yes
idle hawk
in reality the 2 acers are for the stream and temps and clocks
versed rock
Like, 100 bucks or so I think?
hasty gyro
In terms of 5600x vs 3600
versed rock
Not much at 1440p
hasty gyro
What abt 144hz
versed rock
At 1080p there's more of a difference.
idle hawk
you guys realize 1440p is irrelevant unless youre playing a game with demand view distances (warzone)
idle hawk
theres no real benefits of 1440p
versed rock
You are smoking crack dude.
hasty gyro
Lmfao agreed
versed rock
1440p is a resolution increase
foggy hazel
@hasty gyro https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/v9Cxgt <- for now, ignore the PSU choice. I will find something that costs less.
hasty gyro
Bro
versed rock
Resolution has nothing to do with view distance.
versed rock
HDR has nothing to do with view distance.
HDR is all about a wide range of colors, and better contrast.
foggy hazel
theres no real benefits of 1440p
added detail
versed rock
Higher resolutions add more detail to the image and reduce jagged edges.
hasty gyro
@foggy hazel thank you, it gives me some good ideas
idle hawk
yes but no real benefits of a higher resolution monitor but a higher refresh rate monitor has more benefits
more information coming into the monitor
versed rock
Wat
foggy hazel
@hasty gyro also, keep in mind, the 3070 model is just a placeholder for "any" 3070 model in stock
little osprey
Can anyone make me a list at max 2k cad 144hz with pherpals sorry for grammar
versed rock
Broski, 1440p 144hz is going to look better than 1080p 144hz
And, smoothness also has to deal with G-Sync/Freesync and Total System Latency.
idle hawk
yea but in a performance perspective those "looks" has no real benefits
foggy hazel
can we tone down the "talk down to part" please?
little osprey
Can anyone make me a list at max 2k cad 144hz with pherpals sorry for grammar
eager dawn
if ur playing PvP go with higher Hz, if ur playing solo go with higher rez
versed rock
You can have a 240Hz or 360Hz monitor that feels as sluggish as a 60hz display because the Total System Latency sucks.
eager dawn
rule of thumb
foggy hazel
@little osprey no need to repeat yourself :)
versed rock
Not really.
little osprey
Sorry
versed rock
You can have the best of both worlds with 1440p, High Refresh Rate and Good Looks.
idle hawk
You can have a 240Hz or 360Hz monitor that feels as sluggish as a 60hz display b...
that depends on your build that has nothing to do with the monitor
versed rock
Yes it does!
small osprey
Dude
little osprey
small osprey
1440p looks better than 1080p
versed rock
I wouldn't get that monitor
eager dawn
getting high frames at 1440p is really defficult
small osprey
It has no “benefits” but then neither does high settings in games
eager dawn
if u wanna reduce the game quality sure
small osprey
Or ray tracing
idle hawk
again those looks has no real benefits of a fps game
brazen slate
1440p does indeed benefit for FPS
idle hawk
higher resolution doesnt beat a higher a refresh rate
small osprey
1440p gives you more estate to see things
brazen slate
1080p shows less pixels, therefor you might not see some small pixels of enemies while 1440p might if it's a long distance or a really small pixel peek
small osprey
1440p 144hz is better than 1080p 144hz
idle hawk
that a 240hz 1080p panel will always beat a 1440p 144hz panel
brazen slate
There's a 1440p 240Hz
eager dawn
that a 240hz 1080p panel will always beat a 1440p 144hz panel
imo same
eager dawn
There's a 1440p 240Hz
probably crazy expensive
idle hawk
thank you bro
small osprey
that a 240hz 1080p panel will always beat a 1440p 144hz panel
@idle hawk no 240hz has no difference vs 144hz
brazen slate
But honestly, unless you need more than 144hz, 1440p 144hz is p good
small osprey
People tested
foggy hazel
neither of you are are actually talking about the same thing, and both of you are moving the goal posts
small osprey
Esports pros cant tell beyween the two
brazen slate
Bro
eager dawn
neither of you are are actually talking about the same thing, and both of you ar...
what is sports
xD
brazen slate
You gotta be trolling to be saying this
foggy hazel
so, perhaps, if you both took a step back and defined what it is you are debating. you might actually have a debate instead of just shouting into the chat :)
idle hawk
my debate @foggy hazel a 240hz 1080p panel will always beat a 1440p 144hz in regards to a FPS game
brazen slate
There is a difference between 144Hz and 240Hz, albeit sure, most people won't really see it so well I guess
But doesn't mean esports can't tell difference
small osprey
Ok sure fps might be better but 1440p has more benefits over 1080p than 240hz over 144
hasty gyro
Thanks @foggy hazel
brazen slate
This conversation has gone to hell lmao
idle hawk
so then why do esports adopted 360hz monitors for competitions
brazen slate
And I'm seeing so much dumb in 20 messages
small osprey
so then why do esports adopted 360hz monitors for competitions
@idle hawk 360 is a different story than 240
brazen slate
Shroud has made a video explaining why he likes using 1080p 360Hz, if you want to check it
foggy hazel
@idle hawk what you are debating with a absolute value, is a subjective opinion.
eager dawn
And I'm seeing so much dumb in 20 messages
bruh everyone has an opinion
eager dawn
just cuz it doesnt match urs doesnt mean its dumb
idle hawk
<@!370769050365722624> what you are debating with a absolute value, is a subject...
im debating that a higher resolution doesnt beat a higher refresh rate
foggy hazel
for some it does
small osprey
For example work
small osprey
People did a study
foggy hazel
it might not be that way for you. but it is that way for some.
small osprey
Search it up
idle hawk
foggy hazel
and getting all up tight about what is right/wrong in that regard. please, there are more important things to worry about :)
brazen slate
The only thing I believe you are referencing to is Linus with esports players testing 60Hz, 144hz, and 240hz
eager dawn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsnVuXj_IDM
i dont disagree but thats a pretty bias video
eager dawn
cuz they both wanna sell their product
brazen slate
AMD might say some other stuff tho
idle hawk
dont forget they supply the very cards that we push these fps/resolutions
brazen slate
Same stuff mostly, but some stuff will be diff ofc because lol money
small osprey
Ok so what i think is most people dont just play games, they also do some work. In that regard, it would make more sense to get 1440 144 instead of 1080 240. If u are only playing games then get 1080, but for pretty much everything else, 1440p beats it
brazen slate
If you're playing esports games mostly, 1080p 240Hz is an alright idea
Otherwise, just get 1440p 144hz
idle hawk
but we are talking about gaming how does your statement has any relavence
brazen slate
Scrolling lol
brazen slate
Not really that important tho, so eh
idle hawk
not once i ever said workstation or work programs
small osprey
Ok lets stop arguing, this is all opinion
small osprey
Lmao
brazen slate
> that a 240hz 1080p panel will always beat a 1440p 144hz panel
<@!3707690503657...
😳
idle hawk
my debate <@!131369265608654848> a 240hz 1080p panel will always beat a 1440p 14...
my debate
brazen slate
That's the one thing I'd like to disagree on for the most part
Other stuff is whatever the hell was going on lmao
eager dawn
all in all this chat is much more engaging than general
idle hawk
its my opinion and i want to have a civil debate
no one insulting each "are you smoking crack " no insults
brazen slate
Because just saying there is no difference between 144hz and 240hz is downright incorrect
Yeah, that's true
But even then
idle hawk
but then how is it a big difference between 360hz and 240hz
but not a difference between 144hz and 240hz
brazen slate
You could benefit more from games with high speed action versus a game that's more slower
And no, not relating to your message above
idle hawk
and in games like modern warfare yes higher resolution does count
brazen slate
Just about the 144hz vs 240hz no difference thing
glacial umbra
There is an improvement it's just not as large a jump as 60 to 144.
eager dawn
but still some people are more sensative to that sort of thing than others
idle hawk
it doesnt make sense to me still after all this lol
eager dawn
so to someone a jump to 240 might not matter while to someone else it might be life or death (in game)
tiny oriole
I used to have a 144hz monitor
brazen slate
that broke I assume?
tiny oriole
But I use 240hz now and I don't really think it's worth it
eager dawn
personally playing at 240 in LOL showed a definite improvement for me than on a 144
tiny oriole
Yeah broke lol
brazen slate
kekw
idle hawk
But I use 240hz now and I don't really think it's worth it
whats games to do you play
brazen slate
It really depends what you play to notice a difference
tiny oriole
It felt a lot more responsive but I was using a va panel for the 144hz but the one I have now is tn
I played osu and tried hard on it lol
Not anymore though but that's the only game I could tell a difference
brazen slate
Yeah, just quick response games need a higher refresh anyways
eager dawn
osu seems like practice more than fun
tiny oriole
It's fun until you start worrying about ranks and combos and stuff
versed rock
You definitely can use it for aim and reaction training.
brazen slate
Eh, I never really saw Osu as an aim trainer
brazen slate
It's just a flat image
eager dawn
dope
tiny oriole
Yeah I wouldn't use it as an aim trainer
eager dawn
wonder how many frames a 3080 can push out on that
tiny oriole
Lol a lot
eager dawn
i bet xD
brazen slate
Every FPS game is in this "3D" environment, not a still image with appearing things
idle hawk
i can try it and let you know lol
brazen slate
So views will be curved in a way
idle hawk
well damm lol
eager dawn
I got like 500-1000 fps
💥
brazen slate
I feel like you're gonna hit a limit with FPS at one point
tiny oriole
My gpu is a lil worse than a 1060 6gb
brazen slate
If you wanted to use an aim trainer, don't use Kovaak unless your game doesn't have a player vs bot mode
tiny oriole
I don't think there's a limit unless you put one on settings
brazen slate
Like Siege's T hunt
eager dawn
I feel like you're gonna hit a limit with FPS at one point
speed of light equivalent
idle hawk
where do you find that game
brazen slate
I tried it, I'm just bad at it loler
tiny oriole
eager dawn
mcosu? on steam
idle hawk
got it
brazen slate
idk, just get it from website tbh
tiny oriole
I don't think it's on steam
versed rock
It isn't.
brazen slate
Yeah I may have just downloaded it off on site and just put osu on steam with "add non-steam" thing
brazen slate
Halo, hm.
eager dawn
OG fan
eager dawn
combat evolved converted me into a gamer
brazen slate
I've only really played very little of Combat Evolved, like not even done past beginning stuff, and I've done some Reach
idle hawk
the game wont let me get past 480 in the screen
deep skiff
why would you want to play osu it is not fun lemme tell you
brazen slate
Was too young to really be good lmao
idle hawk
my computer is knocking at 480 and could go more
eager dawn
why would you want to play osu it is not fun lemme tell you
whats the deal with theo
deep skiff
what about him
eager dawn
whats the story
brazen slate
weeb
stoic island
hm
brazen slate
I guess
stoic island
Ghost plays osu
eager dawn
whats the story
wanna get on that band wagon
idle hawk
the game itself has a limit of 480fps
stoic island
what game
idle hawk
osu
idle hawk
lmaooo
eager dawn
here we go again
idle hawk
hell yea
eager dawn
xDDDD
brazen slate
Gotta get my 1440p 1440Hz monitor
stoic island
ikr
idle hawk
stoic island
1080p1080hz isn't enough
brazen slate
Can't play below 1439Hz 😤😤😤😤
idle hawk
rip
idle hawk
how long have you been downloading
eager dawn
since ive been talking x
xD
i never actually played online fps on pc before so wish me luck
brazen slate
Uninstalled the games on epic games cause it won't download/launch anymore, some amount of steam games
idle hawk
downloading mw takes me bout 30mins
eager dawn
i used to be a sony fanboy
brazen slate
School internet so 5-8MB download
idle hawk
i have 600mbps down and 20 up
eager dawn
School internet so 5-8MB download
my school had firewalls up against these downloads : (
brazen slate
I use VPN
eager dawn
but they couldnt stop the lan parties on CS
brazen slate
Works uhh
eager dawn
tiny oriole
@idle hawk press control + s or just go to the settings and there's an option to go "unlimited fps" I think
idle hawk
i did
tiny oriole
What
brazen slate
bad PC 😤😤😤😤
tiny oriole
Trash pc indeed
idle hawk
nope lol
tiny oriole
Maybe they capped it on a newer version of osu
brazen slate
Probably
brazen slate
But eh
New PCs might not run as fast tbf
There is something about having a new PC and playing old games that it won't work
Like me and Crysis 1 with 3700X 😔
ember jetty
Does anyone know if Asus Motherboards come with a VDG port?
brazen slate
Thankfully easy fix with launch commands
foggy hazel
@ember jetty did we not cover that earlier today?
ornate solstice
Does anyone like my build https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ntBnp2
next kestrel
stoic island
not bad at all
serene temple
grizzled prairie
so currently my plan for fans on my case is to have three intake 140mm and one exhaust 140mm. I have more room for fans on the top though, should I use that for more exhaust?
vapid igloo
So, I am going to build a PC soon but I just wanted to clear out where on the MOBO would I plug in the Case cables
ornate solstice
For my build I’ll buy the 3070 next year along with a better psu
ember jetty
<@!487754200886018049> did we not cover that earlier today?
The rgb isn't working for the 3 ARGB fans
Is there anyway I can get a scalper bot so I can buy one 3070 that isn't overpriced
foggy hazel
check how they are connected. There is a manual for your case for this exact reason :) @ember jetty
if you are talking about other fans you have installed. check their manuals
ember jetty
Ok
Because I have tried to plug in the in VDG into the rgb headers and the other 4 pin ones but it wouldn't turn on, I'll check the mobo schematics then
It says VDG has to be plugged into a VDG port, but I don't see one in my manual
granite barn
does anyone know a good 500 wat psu
lyric thistle
be quiet! Pure Power 11 500w
granite barn
thank you
lyric thistle
Corsair CX 450 or 550
those are the ones I've had my eyes on, and I ended up buying a PP11 500w
granite barn
ok thanks
fleet pagoda
lyric thistle
for a bit of context, I was waiting for the CX series to come back in stock on Newegg, and I found the PP11 for a nice price on BH, so I went for that instead
lyric thistle
CPUs
fleet pagoda
What madness
severe axle
$10 extra for the rgb fans, if you want that
versed maple
but they perform the same or not ?
tiny oriole
@exotic fulcrum nice set up, but I always wonder why people have 2 pcs
lyric thistle
multitasking, but instead of one expensive computer it's two budget computers
exotic fulcrum
@tiny oriole i multibox, so i have 5 clients open on 1 pc that then sends the game capture to the 2nd PC which does all the encoding and upload to twitch
mine are 2 expensive computers 😛
tiny oriole
Idk what multiboxing is either lol
So you are doing like a small streaming server thing like geforce?
versed maple
https://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=8_129&item_id=137820 - https://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=8_135&item_id=161590 what perform the better for a 5800x
exotic fulcrum
1950x 64gb or ram 2080ti(left computer) computer 3950x 64gb of ram 2080ti(right computer)
tiny oriole
Dang
tiny oriole
Oh ok
exotic fulcrum
so i play like 5-40 games at one time
like in wow for example i did my own 20man raids playing every class/role at the same time.
tiny oriole
Wow how do you even control all the characters
pastel thicket
would anyone be able to help my grandson troubleshoot why the fans are not working?
please
dusk roost
vital oracle
can someone help me build a $500-$800 gaming pc. 16 gigs of ram 250 gig ssd minimum
formal cosmos
Is my psu usually $100? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hFsv4d
versed maple
a guy said that the ENERMAX (ETS T50 AXE) is better than the drp4
little osprey
Hi would a 1660 super be good for a budget PC?
pearl blade
yes, if you get it cheaper the better
small heron
little osprey
would a 3700x be over kill for 1660 Super?
little osprey
is the 2700x better than 3600X or nah
ruby ledge
What motherboard should I pair with an i5 10400, I need it to be microatx and under $140
little osprey
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/rNPZcT how could I make it better?
light wagon
would u recommend intel or AMD?
lyric thistle
again, no I wouldn't
deft geyser
Is this build ok?
MB: Aorus B450 Elite
CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 2700x 8c 16t
GPU: AMD Radeon 570 8GB
RAM: G.skill 16GB Aegis 3200Mhz
SSD: KINGSTON 500GB A2000 M.2
PSU: Chieftec GPE-600S ECO 600W
CASE: MS INDUSTRIAL Aquaris Pro
All that for $600
lyric thistle
yes
light wagon
then what would u recommend
stoic island
@light wagon It means one isn't straight up better for all purposes
Each is good for their own uses
stoic island
And depends on stock and pricing
lyric thistle
I think
stoic island
Can't just straight up say one company is better
lyric thistle
shorthand, Intel usually has better single core, AMD usually has better multicore
I
think'
severe axle
is that usd?
ebon island
obsidian wolf
Hello guys
Who’s the one that always help with builds xd
Now it’s my cousin
He have 1500$
What’s the best build with that amount
Please help me in there, I’m solemnly thank you with y’all.
stoic island
@lyric thistle I mean AMD Zen 3 chips got better single core now
obsidian wolf
:v
lyric thistle
What will you be doing with the computer?
light wagon
gaming
lyric thistle
Consider Ryzen 5 or Core i5
severe axle
hmm, why not a 5600x?
lyric thistle
Especially 5600X
stoic island
Hm
@light wagon what's the overall budget?
And by the way, I'd rather not suggest and Ryzen 3xxx chips for gaming now that 5xxx exists.
stoic island
@lyric thistle but
10100 >:D
lyric thistle
Irrelevant to this situation ofc
stoic island
Yea 3100 is good for low end
Hm
I'd get a 5600x+3080 build for ~1600$ or so
@light wagon what else are you planning to do with it?
lyric thistle
If there was 5100 tho, I wouldn't bring it up
stoic island
If 5100 comes with single ccx 4 core it's gonna be great
light wagon
just gaming, school work, everyday use
lyric thistle
There practically hasn't even been a 3300X 
notoriously non-existent
stoic island
I suggest you take a look at this for reference
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Mr1111/saved/HhWv3C
Prob want to swap the Mobo, but it's for reference
marsh gorge
I was thinking of getting a ryzen 7 3700x in my next build and i was wondering if it would make too much of a drastic difference if i went for 3200mhz ram instead of 3600mhz. the main reason for this question is the due to the cost rather than performance; i know 3600mhz is better but i really want some of those sweet corsair rgb's
light wagon
thanks for the tips
stoic island
@marsh gorge why?
lyric thistle
What does ccx mean 😳 👉 👈
marsh gorge
was only asking because someone suggested to me the other day that the ripjaws V were better than the corsair vengeance rgb pro
stoic island
Corsair rgb ram is just kinda sad in my opinion, don't look as good as say Trident z neo's rgb, and the wide ram blocking radiator is infuriating for compatibility
marsh gorge
i was looking at the 3200mhz pros
@stoic island do you want me to send you a build list
stoic island
Rgb is fine if you know you're paying extra for it, but I'd point you towards either Crucial Ballistix rgb or Trident z neo/rgb
Sure
marsh gorge
both, but im not going 1000% productivity and amd is better
hoary lichen
Im just not getting the graphics card yet
marsh gorge
but gaming and streaming are main focus
stoic island
@marsh gorge I'd still point towards the 5600x if you can get your hand on one
marsh gorge
okay, my only concern is price
marsh gorge
oh right
south jungle
Here's my list so far trying to decide on RAM (at least 16GB or more), PSU, also need more fans as I only have the fans included with case and AIO cooler. Also need to choose storage and other suggestions you guys might have thanks!
~I should also mention that the 3070 is the GPU I'm getting but I'm not sure which one is as I have a friend who was able to order one for me~
stoic island
People have been getting them in #cpus-mobo-and-memory so it's not impossible
marsh gorge
well the 7 3700x is £253 on newegg uk
stoic island
You're trying to build in the UK?
stoic island
@marsh gorge try using uk.pcpartpicker.com
whole harbor
ez just move to usa
hoary lichen
Have an American friend order it for you
marsh gorge
if only i had an american friend XD
stoic island
@south jungle I say something like 2x16gb of Crucial ballistix 3600c16
stoic island
And then get like a Revolution d.f. 850w for the PSU @south jungle
hoary lichen
16 gb 3600 cl16
stoic island
@marsh gorge it actually seems UK stock for new gen equipment seems better, not as... Competitive as it gets in the US, from the few guys in the UK passing through here.
Like 3070 and 3080
south jungle
I was looking at G.Skill ram
marsh gorge
i mean the ps5 rush here was extreme
hoary lichen
Im getting a 80+ gold psu
marsh gorge
but pc components are in big supply
hoary lichen
🧀
stoic island
@south jungle main reason for my suggestion is, you're spending for a 10900k, might as well use the platform for some nice Ram OC, and get some good micron rev e die
south jungle
Big demand is what you mean
hoary lichen
Not the best but its good
stoic island
Crucial ballistix has the really nice micron rev e die, while most of the ripjaw kits get you hynix djr
marsh gorge
Big demand is what you mean
no, the stock for the 3070 sold out in near a week when it first got here
i could've got my hands on it too if i werent so focused on the damn black friday deals
south jungle
Yeah it comes on and off of stock but it's still hard to get because of the scalpers
stoic island
Yea I heard it was quite easy to get RTX 30xx from brick and mortar stores
marsh gorge
yeah, it is
the annoying part is that there isnt a single place like microcenter
and all our tech stores sell pre-builts with 1050 ti's
lyric thistle
Nice
marsh gorge
and the only component shops are about 3 years out of date to the point that its painful
so online buying is all i can really do unless i go up to london
but covid and everything make that a no
so i just have to live with paying the extra £20 for shipping
anyway lol
if theres not much difference between 3200 and 3600mhz ram, should i just go for looks
glacial umbra
you could just get cheaper overall ram
rgb ram usually costs a pretty penny more
atleast from what I've seen
marsh gorge
its about £15 or $22 more
marsh gorge
ill have a look
glacial umbra
alright
marsh gorge
its the wrong link
lavish pagoda
Oops
marsh gorge
it should say above the compatibility, copy that and send it in
marsh gorge
thats it
glacial umbra
going for max performance?
marsh gorge
@lavish pagoda what would you be using it for?
lavish pagoda
Almost all gaming and a little bit of work for school
marsh gorge
what games?
glacial umbra
what're you gaming at?
marsh gorge
and do you stream?
glacial umbra
oh wait the monitor is in the build
lavish pagoda
I don’t stream I just want something really powerful to run big games
glacial umbra
1080p?
that's hella overkill for 1080p
unless you're going for highest FPS in games
marsh gorge
well first of all get rid of the OS
lavish pagoda
I dont know what graphics to get either cause the one I was looking at is like a 3070
marsh gorge
because you can pick those up on ebay real cheap
3080 is better
what games would you be looking to play?
fallen escarp
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZCYkfP
judgement appreciated and welcomed
lavish pagoda
Starting mainly rust and later maybe big VR games
marsh gorge
i mean rust isnt the most demanding
glacial umbra
I'd upgrade the monitor to 144hz 1440p
glacial umbra
you could settle for a lot cheaper components overall ngl
lol
especially for 1080p gaming
marsh gorge
@fallen escarp thats similar to mine
lavish pagoda
Right now a PS4 be but I wanted to get an oculus rift
trail axle
Anyone selling old computer for 600$ ish
fallen escarp
<@!279395844669702144> thats similar to mine
so it's good? 😳
marsh gorge
yea its alright, what were you looking to use it for?
obsidian wolf
:v
marsh gorge
@lavish pagoda if you're looking for mainly gaming then i can make a few alterations to the list
ik it sounds stupid but whats max budget?
fallen escarp
random bullcrap, playing games at ultra settings, ray tracing, and VR
yknow, the usual
glacial umbra
@trail axle Read the rules.
lavish pagoda
I wanted to push it up to 6k for the entire setup
fallen escarp
@marsh gorge take your time with the other guy rn i have patience c:
trail axle
Sorry
marsh gorge
i mean you really dont need that much, but ill have a look for you
i take it you want top performing hardware
lavish pagoda
Yeah or really close
fallen escarp
@lavish pagoda can i ask why you dont have an ssd?
or am i blind and completely missed it
fallen escarp
yay
marsh gorge
ive taken out the 2tb hdd and replaced it with a 2tb m.2
fallen escarp
goob
lavish pagoda
I don’t have it in there on purpose I was gonna get a 3080 but I don’t know if I should stay with a cheaper graphics card or go big
marsh gorge
@lavish pagoda how keen are you on RGB?
lavish pagoda
I don’t want RGB everything but the fans and big things that people will see I would want RGB on
marsh gorge
i mean with a 6k budget you could easily go rgb everything, and a slightly lower spec on well, everything, would do no harm
robust birch
guys i have an rtx 2060 and ryzen 7 2700 not overclocked but i struggle to keep 60fps at 1080p
sometimes it stutters
and by sometimes i mean often stutter in fortnite with medium presets
lavish pagoda
Ok
lyric thistle
what I mean is
marsh gorge
@lavish pagoda there is a cooler case if you want the pc to look the part
lyric thistle
isn't fortnite a bit unoptimized lol
robust birch
fr?
lavish pagoda
I also needed help with that too so you know any cool looking cases with high cooling and airflow
marsh gorge
check out the Lian-Li PC-O11 for me and lmk what you think
robust birch
anyway is there a way i can dedicate more ram to it or make it use more than 20% of my gpu?
marsh gorge
there is in the JVM arguments, i think you can find it in the epic launcher
lyric thistle
use higher settings for it to use more of the GPU
lavish pagoda
That’s a nice case I’m gonna get that one
vital oracle
can someone help me build a $500-$800 gaming pc. 16 gigs of ram 250 gig ssd minimum
robust birch
cuz only 20% of gpu is like wasting an rtx card
robust birch
can someone help me build a $500-$800 gaming pc. 16 gigs of ram 250 gig ssd mini...
ryzen?
vital oracle
anything
fallen escarp
you might want 500 gb ssd minimum
marsh gorge
@lavish pagoda i found someone who made a build similar to that youre looking for, it has the case you wanted and practically the exact same specs. I cant remember the price of your first build but heres this. I hope this helps and i would recommend paying for this to be professionally built
also with your VR, with any money you have remaining from your budget, look into getting the valve index
there isn't a monitor on the list however, but i use the MSI Optix MAG241C and its great for the price
I hope this helps, heres the link to the build https://pcpartpicker.com/list/n8dxsX
obsidian wolf
marsh gorge
also the processor in this one is more gaming oriented than the intel chip so would suit your needs better
obsidian wolf
What you guys think about this build
marsh gorge
@fallen escarp do you mind sending the link to your build back in?
lavish pagoda
Thank you 🙏
marsh gorge
@obsidian wolf thats good, are you looking to overclock at all?
and what are you using it for?
@fallen escarp are you sure that graphics card will fit in a micro ATX case?
marsh gorge
also its probably better to go with 2 sticks of 8gb ram
fallen escarp
oh yes i forgot
marsh gorge
the ripjaws 5 can go to 3600 mhz base clock too
fallen escarp
ryzen doesnt support quad channel L
gimme a minute
i wont need 3600mhz speeds, 3200mhz should be just fine. right?
marsh gorge
yea, funnily enough thats the only reason im here
fallen escarp
marsh gorge
i was asking the same question earlier XD
fallen escarp
so im good as gold, right? anything crucial i should change?
fallen escarp
yay im a pc part picker
marsh gorge
then again, i watch LTT videos religiously and havent built a system in my life
fallen escarp
this went waaay better than i expected lol
marsh gorge
but it looks good XD
fallen escarp
then again, i watch LTT videos religiously and havent built a system in my life
check out jayztwocents, austin evans and bitwit
time to head to PCMR to see what they have to say c:
marsh gorge
gl xD
fallen escarp
i sure hope i dont get "splish splash your opinion is trash"ed
marsh gorge
they can criticise a build to hell trust me
little osprey
is ventus bad?
marsh gorge
just remember what your budget is lmao
fallen escarp
i know CCCC:
jade stone
how good is an AMD Ryzen 9 5900X Dodeca-core (12 Core) 3.70 GHz Processor - Retail Pack - 64 MB Cache - 4.80 GHz Overclocking Speed - 7 nm - Socket AM4 - 105 W - 24 Threads
junior crescent
Could someone mind making a list for around 2000 Australian dollars, for streaming and gaming. i want all performance but mabye a little bit of rgb, ohh and a white ATX case too
edgy walrus
hi does anyone have a minute to look over a new build..?
obsidian wolf
@marsh gorge overclock?
fallen escarp
how good is an AMD Ryzen 9 5900X Dodeca-core (12 Core) 3.70 GHz Processor - Reta...
over the top
edgy walrus
just found an 9900k for cheaper than what i just bought the 10700k for..so idk if i should return or not tho lol
stoic island
If you got a 9900k for like 300$, it's fine
not great not bad.
@edgy walrus what's the purpose?
ashen girder
I don’t know I’m black
lyric thistle
Power Supply
fallen escarp
whats the purpose of a psu?
without the psu you cant power a system
psu means power supply
the thing that supplies power to everything
lyric thistle
Also has the job of protecting the system from irregularities in the power from the wall
Which some power supplies don't fulfill because they're not good power supplies
fallen escarp
^
fallen escarp
dm me if you need help picking pc parts smiley face
^ applies to anyone
edgy walrus
well i got a 10700k for $380 but a 9900k just went on sale for $320 @stoic island
stoic island
oh then keep the 10700k if you have it
edgy walrus
primarily gaming, little bit of video/3d design, productivity and work station
stoic island
it's not bad
lavish pagoda
Anyone know any really good airflow cases for air cooled PCs
edgy walrus
do you think its worth it to save the $60 for the difference in performance?
severe axle
anything with front mesh should have good airflow
edgy walrus
the i9 also has a software bundle
severe axle
4000d airflow is good
vital oracle
is this a good budget pc?
the most intensive games i’m going to play are war thunder and fortnite. i will not stream but i will most likely record youtube gameplay videos off the computer
vapid igloo
Does anyone own a MasterBox Mb311l? The ARGB one with the mesh front panel
vital oracle
the main issue i see with the build is that the graphics card is not great
does anyone know of a better option
edgy walrus
i mean im just gonna try to run an RX 5600 XT until i can get my greasy hands on a 3080
rx 5600 xt or 5500 are good choices imo
fallen escarp
dm me if you need help picking out pc parts :)
vital warren
don't dm there's a channel for a reason
little osprey
@vital oracle get a less expensive motherboard and swap your intel processor for a ryzen processor and put the rest of the money into a 1060 6gb graphics card
dense basin
Here is a build question i seem to see different answer for on forums. When getting RAM and going off the QVL list does Version # matter as much as model number?
little osprey
just yes
whole harbor
THAT IS a trash idra
little osprey
intel is dookie
little osprey
look at his requirements
whole harbor
NOT A 1060
little osprey
he doesnt need a supreme top of the line graphics card
whole harbor
His budget is $900
little osprey
a 1060 will do him just fine
lyric thistle
Stock cooler is fine
whole harbor
Like this guy is telling him to get a 1060 6gb
Witha $900 budget
idk how dumb that guy is
id say not to take advice from him
lyric thistle
How much higher is the Ti over the Super?
vital oracle
@whole harbor is there anything that can be shaved down?
lyric thistle
1660 Super is about as good as 1660 Ti
lyric thistle
So there's one avenue of shaving
lyric thistle
Do MP34
weak field
whole harbor
I mean upghrade one part idvidualy
weak field
for gpu and cpu upgradeability
lyric thistle
Can go for a while without the extra 2TB, add it in at any time you want
It's a non-essential day one part
little osprey
How well should a Ryzen 3 3100x, 1650S, 2*8GB 3 GHz CL16 perform in recent games (Cold War, Valhalla, etc )
Eh
Low to medium settings it will run fine
sinful hornet
@tired orbit what fans are those? They look real nice
weak field
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZNzqmk
i am... something else
i was bored so i made a 600$ list with a bomb psu in it
vapid igloo
Do cooler master cases come with manuals? Also, if they do, do they say how to connect the ARGB fans and how to connect them to your MOBO?
little osprey
i was bored so i made a 600$ list with a bomb psu in it
Wouldn’t consider it a bomb
You could do much worse than that
weak field
def a bomb
deep skiff
evga w1
sinful hornet
Are the cooler master 750 MWE’s known for being bombs at all?
Specifically, the 750 gold fully mod
sinful hornet
Gooda
desert gulch
MR1
sinful hornet
It’s the only slightly cheap psu
desert gulch
mr1 i have question for you
desert gulch
what cpu cooler should i get to oc to 4.2?
sinful hornet
Smh vip and asking to ask
stoic island
on a 3600?
desert gulch
lol
stoic island
lmao
stoic island
at what price
desert gulch
29.99 USD
sinful hornet
Would you say the gammax GT is equal in performance to a 400?
stoic island
lmao
sinful hornet
Cause I’m planning on getting a GT
sinful hornet
And thinking about doing some OC
Also, it’s the best looking cpu cooler for a large price range
At least that I’ve found
stoic island
fair
sinful hornet
Hyper212 black with a fancy fan could be close
But it doesn’t have the fancy top like the GT
desert gulch
no
whole harbor
TRUSTT
desert gulch
forbidden
whole harbor
weak field
i think my hearts bouta jump through my shirt
i went to take out my dog
and she ran
2 blocks
desert gulch
Mr1 is gammax 400 quiet?
weak field
im in sandals and a blanket wrapped around me
when we got back
she layed in the corner and layed down
whole harbor
Why these companies
Never lower
There
budget compnent prices
i just wanna wanna be app-preciated
earnest olive
@desert gulch zen 2 doesn't oc that well anyways, you can get pretty close to its limit on stock cooler
tired orbit
@sinful hornet they are digital storm fans, came with the prebuilt, probably the 9nly good components from the pc itself :/
earnest olive
my 3600x's limit is 4.2ghz on 1.238V and that can run on a stock cooler
done a lot of zen 2 builds with stock coolers
whole harbor
Digital storm is a disgrace of a company tbh
earnest olive
have been able to push 3700Xs up to their limits on stock cooler
covert glade
wait is zen 2 3000 series?
earnest olive
yes
covert glade
omfg ive thought it was 2000 series for like a year now
earnest olive
i did a 3700X 4.2ghz @ 1.25V on the stock cooler and it wasn't even loud
ryzen 1000, athlon 3000g = zen
ryzen 2000, ryzen 3000g = zen+
ryzen 3000, ryzen 4000g = zen 2
ryzen 5000 = zen 3
for laptops
ryzen 2000 = zen
ryzen 3000 = zen+
ryzen 4000 = zen 2
desert gulch
@earnest olive you gotta remember i dont have a x
earnest olive
that's why they skipped to 5000 on desktop this gen, to unify with laptops and make it less confusing
desert gulch
i have stealth
desert gulch
how much
earnest olive
4ghz all core @ 1.25V, 81C
3.95ghz all core @ 1.26V, 85C
only got 2 samples because not every customer wants oc
desert gulch
i tried mine at 4ghz and it was running like 85+C
earnest olive
...on desktop?
desert gulch
yeah
earnest olive
probably didn't mount the cooler correctly then
desert gulch
its on correct
earnest olive
or bad thermal paste application
covert glade
can i get some opinions on a parts list?
desert gulch
pre applied thermal paste
earnest olive
i overclocked 3600 to 4ghz on stock cooler and got lower load temps than your web browsing temps? something is wrong with your cooler 100%
desert gulch
hmmm weird
sinful hornet
Stock on 3600 is 3.6, right?
desert gulch
sips on my 3600 running stock speeds rn highest ive seen is like 70-75
earnest olive
idk i would suggest picking up some cheap arctic mx-4 thermal paste and remounting your cooler
you did something wrong if you're getting 85C while browsing web
the stealth is not nearly that bad
desert gulch
maybe it was bad fan curve?
earnest olive
even intel stock cooler isn't that bad
desert gulch
idk
earnest olive
i mean... i got better temps than that when i forgot to plug in the fan
so
doubt it is fan curve
earnest olive
you probably don't have enough mounting pressure or something
desert gulch
i did it till the screws felt pretty tight
earnest olive
or you didn't get it on in one try and messed up the thermal paste remounting
i got better temps than that on my no thermal paste test
earnest olive
with no thermal paste i was idling at 70C
desert gulch
hmmm
earnest olive
85C in web browsing something must be wrong 100%
desert gulch
yeah maybe
earnest olive
did you screw in the cooler using the diagonal method
desert gulch
yup
earnest olive
when i screw on a stock cooler i use the diagonal method while applying about 40 pounds of downward force onto the top of the cooler
and screw in until the screws cannot possibly budge further
desert gulch
yeah i did pretty much the same
mortal void
whats the diagonal method
earnest olive
screw in one screw halfway, then go to the one diagonally across and screw halfway, then repeat for the other pair, then finish screwing them in in the same order
mortal void
interesting
earnest olive
either way it's a moot point trying to figure out what's wrong with your cooler if you're looking to upgrade
i upgraded from stock cooler to cm 212 primarily for noise
cm 212 runs great on a 3600
you won't really get any more overclocking headroom out of a better cooler than a cm 212, just lower temps/noise
which is important to some people but not all
the cm 212 already wasn't very loud in prime95
better coolers can give you more headroom on higher power chips but the 3600 doesn't draw much power
i upgraded from cm 212 to 360mm aio on my 3600x, clock speeds and oc headroom are exactly the same
cloud oasis
@normal snow ok
covert glade
@earnest olive you seem to be really knowledgeable, can I get your opinion on a parts list?
earnest olive
sure
cloud oasis
Hyper 212 nono
small heron
Thought you said fastest 🤡@covert glade
covert glade
? wdym
earnest olive
are you planning to upgrade the gpu and monitor?
earnest olive
this power supply is extremely overkill for current setup
covert glade
ye ye ik