#building-and-recc-chat

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little osprey
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i cant

gleaming quartz
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hes on a laptop

little osprey
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over budget

granite imp
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Ew

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Ew

little osprey
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No

surreal rain
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:))

granite imp
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Welp I’m out

little osprey
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good

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2070 super is always mid range pc

granite imp
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Rude

little osprey
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not low

midnight jasper
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at ths point just get a 3070

surreal rain
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3090*

little osprey
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no where to be found

analog hearth
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Lol if you can find either of those

little osprey
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fkn scalprers

gleaming quartz
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im planning on getting a 3070 when they restock but im worried that wont be anytime soon

surreal rain
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for less than 5 grand

surreal rain
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ok so

little osprey
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or the upcoming 3060

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then what was the point of buying

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nvm-

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🤦‍♂️

gleaming quartz
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so are you staying on laptop or transfering to a tower build?

little osprey
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2080 ti prices are through the roof

little osprey
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yeah you're buying new lol

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you aren't gonna find them pre 1000

surreal rain
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you can find one at 400 $ used

little osprey
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they barely go below 650 used here

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he cant buy used

surreal rain
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i know

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just saying

little osprey
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ok

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is intel better

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at this point?

gleaming quartz
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my budget for gpus is ~= $600

little osprey
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No

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ik

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10400F maybe but you would need to spend more

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prebuilts are out of the question

analog hearth
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AMD is basically better at everything at this point iirc

little osprey
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but i can't even tell what the hell your budget is anymore

little osprey
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soo

surreal rain
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nope

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for everything

little osprey
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here is a breakdown of my budget

gleaming quartz
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except amd sucks at making gpus

little osprey
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No

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700 usd pc

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amd is good at making GPUs just their RTX was first gen

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120 prephirals

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so it sucked

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200 monitor

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so why are you saying you were gonna try to buy a 3070

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you would need to upgrade CPU too

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eh

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ik

gleaming quartz
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and motherboard

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and power supply

little osprey
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ik

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buying a 3070 and pairing it with a 3100 or 2600x is the definition of how you have a huge bottleneck

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that wont happen

gleaming quartz
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its not worth it

surreal rain
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and everything

little osprey
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ill be happy with what i will get no matter what

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ill get a 3070 when it becomes like 4yrs old

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and the r7 5700x

surreal rain
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what's that law called in uk where you have to pay for you to be able to build something on your property?

little osprey
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idk

surreal rain
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true

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we have it here in Romania too

little osprey
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why are you living in UAE if you don't mind me asking

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cost of living is just as high as the US but you have lower salaries

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im from another arab country

surreal rain
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Iraq?

gleaming quartz
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i live in the us

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ik im a very boring person

little osprey
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and my other family members live here

little osprey
surreal rain
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Syria?

little osprey
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ye

surreal rain
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i thought about Syria first but Iraq is closer from what i know

little osprey
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different

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anyways

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Allah souria bashar ou bas

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eh no

surreal rain
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:)_))

little osprey
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Lol

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hes a bad person

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Not based

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lets move on

desert elbow
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I’m looking to build a pc that’s 700-900 cad

little osprey
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hmm

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try this

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No

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any build you choose is bad

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since you can't buy used

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ik

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so

little osprey
gleaming quartz
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yeah used anything is considered trash for the money you have to buy it for

little osprey
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i can stretch it to 800 usd all new

surreal rain
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how much is a used 1070 ti?

desert elbow
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Ok

little osprey
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but that leaves for worse peripherals

desert elbow
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I have peripherals though

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So it’s ok

surreal rain
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you could get redragon peripherals for less than 100$

little osprey
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same

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are rosewill preps good

little osprey
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random dell keyboard mouse e tc

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same for me

surreal rain
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dude

desert elbow
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Ye lmao

surreal rain
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than just invest in the pc and monitor

little osprey
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ok

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sure

desert elbow
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We have like 10 random keyboards lying around

surreal rain
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and buy the stuff over time

little osprey
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that is what i intially planned

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ngl

surreal rain
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just do that instead

little osprey
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ok so 850 usd pc and the rest for the monitor

analog hearth
little osprey
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total is 1k usd

surreal rain
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ok motor

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flex your native language

desert elbow
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Ok

little osprey
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can a 2060 go with the 2600x?

analog hearth
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You don’t have to be toxic about it lol. Just be like “English isn’t my native language”

little osprey
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JUST BUY THE 3100

desert elbow
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Will 3100 bottleneck 2060?

little osprey
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YOU HAVE NVENC ON THE 2060

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what

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have what

analog hearth
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Mmmm

little osprey
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Nvenc encoding

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it puts no load on the GPU or CPU when streaming

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ok

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but i need 6 cores tho

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why?

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streaming?

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i run multiple single core linux vms

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nvm

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im not helpng any longer

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ok

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thx

desert elbow
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Lol

little osprey
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how much of a psu watts i need for a 2060

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and a 2600x

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500w enough

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or no

analog hearth
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600W to 650W would be fine

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But I always go overkill

little osprey
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is the vs500 good

analog hearth
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You can run a 9900K and 2080Ti with a 550W PSU for about 12 hours straight

analog hearth
little osprey
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no it will be on 24hrs

little osprey
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does it blow up

analog hearth
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That VS PSU will eventually explode

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Yep

little osprey
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ok

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550w

analog hearth
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Give it too much of a load and it’ll flame up

little osprey
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cx550

analog hearth
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550W will be fine

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I have a CX650. I haven’t ever had problems with it

little osprey
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ok

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what about the cables

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ket and mus

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or no

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thats a concern forme

analog hearth
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I mean, isn’t it your first build?

little osprey
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no

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i rebuilt an old dell

analog hearth
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Ah

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Ketchup and mustard doesn’t affect performance if that’s what you’re asking

little osprey
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no it affect the "looks"

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ok

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what if i stick with what i have now and go with an ipad air

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with the magic keyboard

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will i save my 1k usd

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there

winged tinsel
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5600x is better than the 3700x right?

surreal rain
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similar

little osprey
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very similar

surreal rain
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but for gaming 5600x from what i've seen

little osprey
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but better power manage

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for gaming a leap forward

lunar thorn
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Can someone that uses a blue yet mic on pc dm me I have a question

surreal rain
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not everyone has a yeti mic

little osprey
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i have a 3usd mic from 1993 for zoom class

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found on amzn

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is this a good deal

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or a ripoff

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or do i just continue with the gaming pc

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or just the base mac mini

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and apple key and mouse

hollow sun
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Hey there, can someone here help me with 2 questions about Strix B550-F Gaming and Gigabyte PSU P650B??

little osprey
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Mee6 bot is annoying

summer pasture
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do you think having only 1 case fan is what's causing my gpu to get hot.

little osprey
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yes

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you need like two more

summer pasture
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cool i should probably get more

little osprey
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and clean the fans

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and re apply thermal paste

summer pasture
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yeah, is there a certain way to set the fans up

little osprey
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yes

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set the fans curve

summer pasture
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i mean like pull and push fans

little osprey
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to like to ramp up at a certain temp

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oh ok

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that idk

summer pasture
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but where do i do that

stoic island
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you physically set it up in the case

little osprey
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one at the back with the logo facing the case

stoic island
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it's either blowing in or blowing out

summer pasture
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no the curve

stoic island
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Bios

summer pasture
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oh i thought so wasnt sure

stoic island
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you can't make the fans spin backwards to do push pull btw

summer pasture
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yeah i know

little osprey
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and two with the logo facing inside the case next to the fpanel

stoic island
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alright

summer pasture
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think i got it just wanted to check

little osprey
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ok

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any more help

summer pasture
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no im good thanks

tawdry lance
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5600x or 5800x

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Or just whatever I can get my hands on

hollow veldt
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hey

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is sapphire pulse rx 580 4gb good?

plush mist
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yes

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awesome budget option

versed rock
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I wouldn't get an RX 580 in an era of the RX 5500XT or 5600XT

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The RX 5600XT is the new RX 580 essentially

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And if you are super strapped for budget, then a GTX 1060 6GB has aged vastly better than the RX 580

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(And WoW Shadowlands too)

little osprey
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Whats a good eu site for pc parts

silent canyon
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anybody know if the mail in rebates at newegg actually get through?

glacial umbra
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is 500w enough for 1070 ti and ryzen 5 3600

next kestrel
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depends which 500w psu

glacial umbra
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EVGA BA/BR?

next kestrel
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hmmm

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its not the worst psu, but its also not the best

glacial umbra
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average is better than bad

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I guess

next kestrel
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it'll draw around 350W i guess

versed rock
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I wouldn't buy an EVGA BR unit.

stoic island
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@little osprey there is no EU site, there's country specific sites

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@versed rock why not? At a strict budget, imo they're the best ones to buy for not blowing up.

versed rock
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Really?

stoic island
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At the price they're competing with W1, TT Smart 80+, and S12iii

versed rock
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I heard in the past the low tier EVGA Bronze units were nearly handgrenades.

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I guess EVGA cleaned up their Bronze units, and made their Gold units worse.

stoic island
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I haven't heard anything bad about the BR and BA lineup

versed rock
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EVGA literally had some of the best Gold units with the G2 lineup.

stoic island
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Older lineup I wouldn't be surprised if they were bombs

versed rock
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And then G3's released and fudged it up.

stoic island
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Yea, tho there is an unconfirmed fault with G2 too

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G3 were still good, just OCP

glacial umbra
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eh hand grenade hand smchnade

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if it blows, it blows

versed rock
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Interesting, what's the "issue" with G2's?

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Both me and my dad have G2 units, they have served us for 5+ years now.

stoic island
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I'll link it if I can find it again, but the holdup time was really long from power failure/outage

versed rock
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My dad has a 6700K 32GB of RAM and a RTX 2070 all on a G2 550w

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And I have a 3600, 32GB of RAM, and a GTX 1070 on a G2 650w

stoic island
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But it's uncomfirmed if it'll cause an issue

versed rock
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Ah.

stoic island
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Hei linked it to me at some point

versed rock
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Both of us have had our units for at least 5 years.

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No major issues.

stoic island
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Mhm, it's a smaller issue

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Like OCP on G3

versed rock
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So, G3 units bad for RTX 30 series.

stoic island
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Not afaik

versed rock
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🤔

glacial umbra
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what's the point in 32gb

stoic island
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Hell, they might be better because they won't trip on large spikes xDDD

exotic vault
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What up nerds🤓

versed rock
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I thought if G3's had bad OCP, and you pair it with the spikey AF RTX 30 cards, you'd just trip the OCP.

stoic island
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Hm?

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No

exotic vault
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In a nerd to🤓

stoic island
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The issue is OCP is too high

versed rock
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OH

stoic island
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And I think missing OTP?

versed rock
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That... That actually sounds good for RTX 30 cards...

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lol

stoic island
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Ikr

versed rock
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I might just buy a G3 750w when I get my 3080.

stoic island
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Either missing OTP or OPP I forgot

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Lmao I have one

versed rock
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Sadly, AMD this generation is so close, but not quite.

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And, Destiny 2 just got Reflex support

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And holy butter Batman, D2 has never looked so smooth.

stoic island
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@versed rock GN said they had one of their PSU trip from what was likely OCP when they were testing 6800xt lel

versed rock
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Reflex + Boost is an addicting drug.

stoic island
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Lol

glacial umbra
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if their gpu battle is anything like their cpu battle, 3 is where it's at

stoic island
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I can't have it :(

versed rock
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?

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Why not?

stoic island
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Was planning on skipping 30 series

versed rock
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Oh.

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Wait

stoic island
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Won't have monies anyways

versed rock
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Uhh

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Reflex works on 10 series

stoic island
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Hm?

versed rock
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And I think 900 series too

stoic island
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I have a 2070 lmao

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Non super

versed rock
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Yeah, it 100% works on 16 series

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They showed a 1660 Super in their marketing shpiel

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So, it works on Turing also

stoic island
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Nice

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Thought it was ampere only

versed rock
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I think Valorant, Destiny 2, and Fortnite are the current games that support Reflex

stoic island
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Aw

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I want siege to support it

versed rock
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let me get a sanity check on that though.

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ME TOO

stoic island
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Tbh

wanton cliff
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Siege with reflex would be lit

stoic island
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I've hit shots in siege before that I can't recreate because of latency

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If I get reflex working

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It'll be amazing

versed rock
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Ok, so Apex Legends, Warzone, Fortnite, and Valorant all can run Reflex.

wanton cliff
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imagine not hitting your shots

this post was made by the 1ms gang

versed rock
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Oh, and Destiny 2

stoic island
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@wanton cliff I used to have mastered clicking once in the middle of flicking and headshotting people

versed rock
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Also, apparently the total system latency for a 1660 Super at 60hz in D2 is absolutely abysmal.

wanton cliff
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I believe it

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1660 super is a weird card

versed rock
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77 miliseconds without reflex

wanton cliff
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hot damn

stoic island
versed rock
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Adding Reflex tuned it down to 51 miliseconds

stoic island
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Whoa

versed rock
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This is Total System Latency at 1080p with a 10900K

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The Grey bar is a 1660 Super

stoic island
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-20ms

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Damn

versed rock
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The next bar below grey is adding Reflex onto that.

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Then after that is a 3080

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I would assume 3080 + Reflex + 60hz

stoic island
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I want a better CPU now

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I don't want to play with my cpu anymore

versed rock
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The final bar is a 3080 + Reflex + 360Hz monitor

wanton cliff
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what cpu do you have?

stoic island
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Early 3800x

versed rock
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Valorant is one friggin efficient game

wanton cliff
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I have 3800X as well

stoic island
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Yea

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@versed rock wonder if CSGO will get reflex soon

versed rock
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12ms Total System Latency with a 3080 + Reflex + 360hz monitor.

wanton cliff
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great CPU, especially from a 3600

stoic island
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I mean

versed rock
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I'd kill for CS:GO to get Reflex

stoic island
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I need to push like 1.38v to just get 4.3ghz rn

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So uh

versed rock
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But Valve doesn't care about adding things to CS:GO

wanton cliff
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CS:GO with reflex would be lit as hell

stoic island
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Not great bin

versed rock
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I wonder why Destiny 2 is so laggy overall.

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Although, I don't know what DirectX Version Destiny 2 uses.

stoic island
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@versed rock prob the usual "lazy devs not optimizing things"

surreal rain
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@versed rock 360hz is not worth it even if you have the money

versed rock
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For all I know it uses DX9 for some ungodly reason.

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sigh Nameless, this chart shows physical proof that there IS a benefit to a higher refresh rate monitor.

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Is there a benefit to the average person?

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Probably not.

surreal rain
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no

stoic island
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Hoi4 uses dx9 afaik, and God damn is it hard to get 60fps constant

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It prob takes a 5900x and 3080

surreal rain
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but for 500$ you can get a benq zowie xl2546k

stoic island
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The hell is that

surreal rain
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the best 240hz monitor

versed rock
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But, going from a Total System Latency of 20ms to 12ms can be the difference between Life and Death in a Competitive game.

stoic island
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For 600$ or so, you get a Samsung g7

versed rock
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For 400 or so you get a Pixio PX7 Prime

surreal rain
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if you don't have thousands of hours in fps games it isn't worth it

stoic island
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For 360 or so you get a M27q >:(

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@surreal rain and I do >:)

versed rock
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I remember paying 200 for a VG248QE in 2012.

surreal rain
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same

stoic island
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Heh

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Yet I'm still not gonna get one

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It's your money to spend

surreal rain
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if you are going to get a 360hz monitor just wait for BenQ to show their wears

stoic island
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What

versed rock
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The G7 is around 750 Mr1111

surreal rain
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i said that benq makes the best high refresh rates monitors

stoic island
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@versed rock hm, ~600usd I thought, maybe it was on sale

surreal rain
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they have a ton of features for competitive games

versed rock
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Probably on sale.

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I really want a G7 though...

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It has proper HDR, and Destiny 2 has full HDR Support

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Oh, and Monster Hunter World too.

stoic island
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1440p240hz

versed rock
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And a 3080 would easily drive that.

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Well, maybe not at 240hz

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But at least at 100FPS

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And it has VRR so, 100 FPS would still feel like butter.

wanton cliff
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I posted something in #old-cooling if someone can check it out

edgy wagon
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XPG SX8200 or teamgroup mp33

small osprey
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sx8200

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or mp34

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dont get mp33

arctic jungle
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@median acorn I saw u typing in build pics, pros in resonse

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hi

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esay here

median acorn
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I don’t feel comfortable cutting into my case

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Lol

arctic jungle
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oof

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welp

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I mean, it never looks ugly

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i've done it 3 times

median acorn
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Lol

arctic jungle
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it's barely noticable too... it's not like ur cutting into the gpu backplate, there's nothign at risk lol

median acorn
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What’s your CPU and GPU?

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Lol

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Yeah

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Wowow

arctic jungle
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imd developer

median acorn
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Beautiful

arctic jungle
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it is

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well

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NOW it is

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it wasn't when it was concieved

median acorn
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Lol

arctic jungle
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I was using a 70$ x299 mobo lol

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omg

median acorn
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Lmao

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Yeah that’s not good

arctic jungle
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average x29 mobo is like some 250-300$

median acorn
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Wow

arctic jungle
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which sounds insane but not as much when u consider how much the cpu costs

surreal rain
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Antago what's a good motherboard for the ryzen 5 5600x? 100$-150$?

stoic island
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@edgy wagon sx8200 pro

arctic jungle
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@surreal rain x570 or b550

median acorn
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B550

surreal rain
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any b550m?

stoic island
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B550 pro vdh wifi for wifi

arctic jungle
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if u need wifi, get mr1111's choice

surreal rain
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well i don't need wifi

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and i won't be overclocking it

arctic jungle
sterile wind
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@arctic jungle why did you make the hole so big if its custom

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not enough blade sizes?

arctic jungle
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yeah

sterile wind
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rip

arctic jungle
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the hole wasn't there originally

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stupid prebuilt case

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but i loved the rgb on the case so-

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

surreal rain
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rbg also gives aton of fps

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so it's a win win

arctic jungle
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oh yeah defo

stoic island
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Did I hear

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False information

surreal rain
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it's a joke

stoic island
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You know what else is a joke

surreal rain
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sheesh you commies don't get food and jokes

arctic jungle
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@surreal rain is a joke

surreal rain
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0oo

stoic island
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You don't get food

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We get it

surreal rain
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OUR FOOD

stoic island
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Hm

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I have an urge to paste a paper

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On the soviet economy

surreal rain
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:))

stoic island
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But I won't

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Politics is fun

surreal rain
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i can agree

stoic island
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3060ti

spring crest
arctic jungle
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@sterile wind do u have pcpp yt or noo

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i wanna see the pcpp

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@sterile wind D:< show

quasi snow
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@spring crest Unless you store a lot of video files or something like that I'd recommend a 1 tb ssd and no hard drive to start

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storage is pretty easy to expand later

surreal rain
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yup

arctic jungle
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not 3600 mhz cl16?

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ti's 15$ more

sterile wind
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ram was a place holder

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I don't like the mb but dad won't let me run ethernet

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;-;

arctic jungle
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and u should get gaming x if ur spending that much on mobo

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it's wifi

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sry

sterile wind
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aparently drilling through walls is "too much effort

arctic jungle
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not gaming x

surreal rain
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it took me 10 minutes to get a ethernet cable in every bedroom in my house (4)

sterile wind
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my house is old

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walls are all 6-12 inches thicc with layers of wood, metals, and more

surreal rain
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and it's made from bricks

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oh

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that's pretty thick

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it shouldn't take too long

arctic jungle
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@sterile wind

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wifi mobo

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except it's pretty

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and performs ultra well

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and it's got fast af wifi

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wait...

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no

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wrong link lol

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oops

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one secx

sterile wind
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lmfao

arctic jungle
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this one

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sry lmao

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@sterile wind

sterile wind
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same link...

arctic jungle
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it's got wifi 6, antanae style wifi so lower ping

sterile wind
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wait no

arctic jungle
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no

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it's different

surreal rain
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should i buy a rx 5700 xt red devil or search for a used 2080 ti ?

arctic jungle
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used 2080super

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r not gonna have any luck with 2080 ti

surreal rain
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is the difference in performance big?

arctic jungle
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not really

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like 10-20%

surreal rain
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h

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oh

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found one ti

arctic jungle
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that's not worth it

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@surreal rain it was posted 1 hr ago... it's pros gonna go up in price to 600-700

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and even then

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for 500$ the 3070 outperforms it

surreal rain
#

tempting

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nvm

hasty minnow
#

I’m thinking of getting a 3060ti when it drops do you guys have any tips to try to get my hands on one before like bots and scalpers

gleaming quartz
#

11 gb of vram

#

yes, please!

#

i mean the strix one that nameless king posted is used but still

#

rtx 3080 is sold out

#

lol

#

also maybe replace the intel i5 with ryzen 5 since the latter of the 2 is better in general

#

but assuming the rtx 3080 restocks anytime soon, thats an alright build

#

*3070

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both are sold out at the moment

#

i dont think so

#

but even if it is, it performs way better than any intel processor can

#

and it has a better stock cooler

cursive magnet
#

Still no RAM for my build. I REALLY hate UPS. Their shipping sucks @$$. It not worth free shipping......

edgy walrus
#

how long ago did you order

cursive magnet
#

@hasty minnow the 3090 is considered the “titan” of this generation. The current skus have already been canceled. New versions are coming and looks like March.

#

@edgy walrus last Friday. Tracking shows my order has been in town since Monday and it’s now lost.

edgy walrus
#

jesus christ so are you running without ram rn or just low ram

#

but ik im kinda butthurt not having a gpu that i want is stalling my build

cursive magnet
#

I have a new build that I can’t even turn on. Zero RAM

edgy walrus
#

damnnn call ups

#

then call wherever you ordered from

#

if ups cant fix it the company should

#

most of the time on mess ups like this they express ship a new one or something

still roostBOT
#
˞˞˞˞˞˞˞˞˞˞˞˞˞˞˞˞#8314 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

cursive magnet
#

I did. Can’t get past the automated BS. It won’t accept the tracking #

edgy walrus
#

looks clean, good luck on finding a 3070 tho @little osprey

#

really?

#

can you give them a call or nah

#

ah i feel ya, yeah i just stalled mine bc i cant find a gpu that i like lol i was thinking of just settling for a 2070 super until i can get a 3080...

cursive magnet
edgy walrus
mental blaze
#

can someone make me a build?
plan to buy black friday or something
budget is 800-900 for gaming

edgy walrus
#

lol he really put an amd on there

mental blaze
#

its for my friend

edgy walrus
#

and just said "change it"

#

i mean black friday wont bring the price down too much

#

these parts are already flying off the shelf, no need to put them on sale

mental blaze
#

true

gleaming quartz
edgy walrus
#

itll help a little tho, like $20 here and there goes a long way

mental blaze
#

especially at that budget as well

cursive magnet
#

I got a 3070 from eBay. It was cheaper than 2070S

mental blaze
#

i have a 10980xe so im set for a while

edgy walrus
#

youre joking

#

and its legit?

mental blaze
#

theres no way lol

gleaming quartz
#

people just wait for it to restock

cursive magnet
gleaming quartz
#

is it used?

edgy walrus
#

all of the 3080's are still $1000 plus

gleaming quartz
#

yeah

cursive magnet
#

Brand new. The electrostatic bag was sealed

gleaming quartz
#

that’s insane

#

was it cheaper?

cursive magnet
#

Yep

gleaming quartz
#

how much?

cursive magnet
#

700

gleaming quartz
#

jeez

#

good job with that one!

cursive magnet
#

Guy even gave me the orig receipt for warranty

gleaming quartz
#

that’s nice

#

normally I wouldn’t even take a step into the ebay rtx 3000 territory

#

because most people try to scam you

#

It’s releasing sometime this month I think

cursive magnet
#

They dropped 2 days ago

gleaming quartz
#

no

#

Wait what

#

really?

cursive magnet
#

18th

gleaming quartz
#

I might cop it ngl

cursive magnet
#

Atleast was the schedule

gleaming quartz
#

I am an amd person after all 😈

edgy walrus
#

yeah but you cant really find them anywheere

gleaming quartz
#

true

stoic island
#

what

gleaming quartz
#

all of the links to the rx 6000 on the amd website are broken lol

stoic island
#

there's a reason why we hate UB lmao

gleaming quartz
#

user benchmark is alright ig

stoic island
#

UB sux for comparisons

gleaming quartz
#

4 gigspain

#

16 gigs isn’t too bad

#

fr?

#

I wish that were to exist

#

but to be fair my motherboard would probably explode if I put those in

cursive magnet
#

@little osprey You gotta change your name 🤦🏼‍♂️

gleaming quartz
#

my motherboard has 4 slots

#

and I have a pair of 16 gb ram sticks

#

so I could do 128 gbs of ram of i really wanted to

#

why

#

only void.

stoic island
#

@little osprey y

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@little osprey no

urban oyster
#

Lol...

#

I heard ram.

edgy walrus
#

my buddy does 4d animation and 128gb of ram works well but hes gonna upgrade to 256 lol things gonna be a beast

gleaming quartz
#

4d animation?!?

stoic island
#

no

#

it's not accurate

#

:D

edgy walrus
#

@gleaming quartz yessir, like cinema 4d and blender

pliant escarp
#

Looking for a pci riser for my build. It needs to be pcie 4.0.

iron berry
#

So cpu led debug light went on an x570 for a 5600x so that means I need to flash the bios before it'll detect it right

ruby ledge
wanton cliff
#

one sec

#

mind if I revise your list a little?

#

get a Phanteks P300, cheapest case that is actually good, to start

Hyper 212 black edition is cheaper and does the exact same thing

try to find a good B450 or B550 mobo (yours is very barebones and probably not very good considering the price)

250gb of space is not enough for anyone to do anything. Very minimum should be 500

ruby ledge
#

I already have the case, the fan and the power supply from a previous build

#

i'm upgrading

wanton cliff
#

ok

ruby ledge
#

which upgrade route should i take?

vital warren
#

you can't use a b450/550 with intel lol

wanton cliff
#

really?

#

im sorry

#

ive only ever been team red

stoic island
#

alright

ruby ledge
#

i'm going for an intel i5 9600k build because its $150 on micro center

vital warren
#

but that ssd is overpriced for $50

ruby ledge
#

i also already have the ssd lol i'll upgrade that later

wanton cliff
#

and only 250 gigs

vital warren
#

ah it's fine then

ruby ledge
#

rn i need help with the gpu, cpu, ram and mobo

#

which route should i take

stoic island
#

wait

#

why not like

#

10400f+z490

ruby ledge
#

for those 4, my budget is $600

wanton cliff
stoic island
#

hm?

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@ruby ledge do you own the CPU?

#

or the board?

wanton cliff
ruby ledge
#

no

#

the i5 9600k is discounted for $150 at my local micro center so thats why i'm going for it

stoic island
pallid summit
ruby ledge
#

i'm looking for stream, mainly just game

#

i'll upgrade the storage later, i need help with the mobo, gpu, cpu and ram right now.

glacial umbra
#

isn't i5-10400F similar rn?

#

in pricing

ruby ledge
#

i'm not sure

stoic island
#

175usd

glacial umbra
#

you could go for the 10400F

weak field
#

ban me once

#

shame on me

#

ban me twice

#

i probably deserved it

glacial umbra
#

yeah

ruby ledge
#

with what motherboard?

glacial umbra
#

are you going budget motherboard?

pallid summit
#

same price double the storage

stoic island
glacial umbra
#

I was looking at b460s for myself earlier

stoic island
#

@pallid summit vulcan g is dramless

glacial umbra
#

but I'm probably gonna go amd

stoic island
#

@ruby ledge look at this list, GPU is placeholder because other pricing is weird

glacial umbra
#

b460 works with 10th gen

ruby ledge
#

Thanks! @stoic island

pallid summit
#

oh

stoic island
#

Vulcan non-G has dram

#

good drive

vestal hare
stoic island
#

Nice

pearl blade
#

gud

olive kraken
#

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/h2rsp2
I am planning on giving this to my little sister. as I move into next gen. Should I try to sell and get older piece of Hardware or do we think I should give this to her to play she only play minecraft among us and roblox for now

#

I feel like for what she does, She can get an APU and roll with it

balmy patio
#

that's more than enough lmao

ruby ledge
#

If shes playing minecraft, among us and roblox lol thats overkill

balmy patio
#

and yeah for those three games, an apu would be fine

stoic island
#

@olive kraken hm, did the d15's second fan fit with the ram?

balmy patio
#

i play on my macbook air sometimes and it's playable

pearl blade
#

how old is she, if she's old enough to roll into playing more heavy games then might as well keep it

#

it's a really good build btw

olive kraken
#

@stoic island NO

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I tries

balmy patio
#

sheesh

olive kraken
#

tried but it was like nudging it

stoic island
#

Yea that's what I thought

olive kraken
#

I WAS NOT GOING TO RISK I T

stoic island
#

D15 standard config for 165mm leaves like 37mm for the ram

olive kraken
#

first build

#

I wasn't too too aware but its fine

#

I got a thing to make tha cable longer and set it up as exhaust

stoic island
#

Is fine

olive kraken
#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

stoic island
#

Run it like a d15s

olive kraken
#

with only middle right

stoic island
#

Or bootleg method and slap the second fan on the back

#

Yea d15s only has middle fan

olive kraken
#

I have one in the middle

stoic island
#

I'll show you the bootleg method in mine

small osprey
#

Or bootleg method and slap the second fan on the back
@stoic island imma do that

#

Put both fans on the same side lol

stoic island
#

@small osprey gets tight depending on height of like io heatsink tho

small osprey
#

Hm

stoic island
#

Mine squeezes fairly close to the side panel

#

Well it pushes on the side panel

olive kraken
#

Yah for me

#

I was like idk what to do with it

#

so i set it up as exhaust fan

#

took out the side thing

#

and that has worked with me but for her maybe I'll do the back fan and see temps

#

Oh i should probably ask does the define r7 compact fit an arctic 280mm radiator with clearance

#

this is my current build

little osprey
#

Go to fractal design's website and click case specs, it will state what size rad it supports

olive kraken
#

It says it supports it

little osprey
#

There you go

olive kraken
#

But supporting it and having clearance with like ram and gpu if I front mount

#

Is what bothers me

soft solstice
little osprey
#

Well worst case scenario you just do a top mount rad

#

And you would have clearance with ram

stoic island
#

@soft solstice Need wifi?

soft solstice
#

I need wireless, but I can go with an adapter or built in the mobo

stoic island
#

Newegg reviewers are dumb, read the specific 1 stars and you'll see why

weak field
#

they didnt have a apu

stoic island
#

hm?

#

Ram clearance issues with rad is usually basically limited to just Corsair vengeance rgb lmao

ruby ledge
#

Can anyone tell me if the Gigabyte Z390 M GAMING Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard
supports 3600mhz ram

unreal minnow
#

Don't think so. What CPU u putting in?

stoic island
#

@ruby ledge why not z490 :(

#

2x8gb?

little osprey
#

You can just google the board model and it will list ram support

stoic island
#

eh

#

it's not dat simple

#

gets weirder with more sticks

#

@ruby ledge 2x8gb 3600c16?

still bay
#

guys how do i know when a 3070 or 3080 is going into stock

little osprey
ruby ledge
#

yes

soft solstice
#

@stoic island the people in vc said it's better if i have 4th gen pcie, does that have it?

stoic island
#

@soft solstice all B550 boards have pcie 4.0 for GPU and M.2_1

#

all of em

#

@little osprey gets weirder with more sticks

soft solstice
#

ok

lone fern
#

the future is now

cursive magnet
#

That’s great for an intel board when cpus like 2933

little osprey
#

Interesting, I didn't know that

stoic island
#

More sticks and more ranks

#

basically the more ram the lower max freq it'll be able to run at

#

3600mhz on 2x8gb should work fine

#

@ruby ledge tho I'd like to mention that Intel has diminishing returns with ram higher than 3200c16

#

unlike AMD

ruby ledge
#

wdym

stoic island
#

3600mhz ram and 3200mhz ram have little difference for Intel chips

#

It's there, but less of a difference than for AMD

lone fern
#

so amd can recognize the difference in speed better?

stoic island
#

Main reason is because of Infinity Fabric

lone fern
#

oh yeah

ruby ledge
#

alright

#

im probably gonna go for the z490 build you recommended me

#

@stoic island

stoic island
#

:D

drifting garnet
#

Any time i play a game on my laptop it just runs at the base speed. is it because of thermal throttling?

light halo
#

considering these two are around the same price should i go for the ryzen 7 3700x or the ryzen 5 5600x....considering if it is in stock.

drifting garnet
#

Probably 5600x.

drifting garnet
light halo
#

ok ty @drifting garnet , if it does not come back in stock i might just end up getting the ryzen 7 3700x anyways because that is atleast always in stock

little osprey
#

rn im tryna find what SSD and HDD i have so i can just slap it into a new PC build without buying new ones for now, though i think i gotta open up the case to check myself :)..

iron berry
#

did a bios flash using the flashback button the light on my usb stopped and so did the blinking light, but it never did a power cycle. Can I just power it down at this point ive waited around 10 minutes

foggy hazel
#

@iron berry do you have anything that would light up IF it did a powercycle?

iron berry
#

the mobo debug leds and the rgb in the back and the fan on the chipset

#

so @foggy hazel at this point its been almost 15 and its been the same since then no light on the usb and no blinking from the back of the board

foggy hazel
#

if you are not sitting there staring at it, you would not normally notice the power cycle

iron berry
#

i am watching it like a hawk

foggy hazel
#

well, its your choice what you want to do

#

but in theory, it should be done

iron berry
#

well time to test it cuz idk what else to base it off but the lights and I gave it time in case it wasnt done

sharp perch
#

Hello everyone in this chat. I need some help with building a pc that looks nice but also performs very well the budget is around 1200 to 1500€. I will be using it for gaming school and productivity

#

Are any techies in here

real mortar
#

what is the best ram for ryzen 9 5950 and aorus x570 master mother board

sharp perch
#

Or they not here

#

@real mortar how much are you looking for or what you gonna use the pc for

#

And budget

real mortar
#

its machine learning and either 64 or 128

sharp perch
#

Why that mucc

#

Much

#

And budget

#

No one needs that much ram

real mortar
#

under $1000

sharp perch
#

Lmao

real mortar
#

LOL

sharp perch
#

An actual price

real mortar
#

not worried about budget

sharp perch
#

Okay

#

And why 64gigs

#

You don’t need that much ram

#

Anyway

foggy hazel
#

@sharp perch please dont tell others what they need and dont need.

real mortar
#

for larger batch files and memory intensive calculations

sharp perch
#

@foggy hazel okay sowwy just wanted to help

foggy hazel
#

@real mortar go QVL if you want to push to 128

#

its much simpler for you that way

sharp perch
#

Can you help me Naed?

real mortar
#

@foggy hazel thanks!

foggy hazel
#

@real mortar you know what QVL is right?

real mortar
#

@foggy hazel not really but i am sure i can figure it out

foggy hazel
#

@real mortar on the manufacturers page for the mainboard, there is a Qualified Vendors List of ram that is known to work in the board.

drifting garnet
#

Why does my laptop run at base clock when it is only at 63 degrees celcius. Is it really thermal throttling?

real mortar
#

@foggy hazel i am going to run the ryzen 9 5950 with and aorus master x570 any ram suggestions then?

foggy hazel
sinful hornet
#

i tried to find that

foggy hazel
#

@sinful hornet Gigabyte are a bit weird about it being shuffled in to the "support list" tab :)

sinful hornet
#

ah, found it thanks

foggy hazel
#

@drifting garnet that depends on what the manufacturer has set the thermal limits to

drifting garnet
drifting garnet
#

Right now I am doing nothing and it is above base clock but when I do something like play a game it runs at base clock the whole time.

foggy hazel
#

that sounds like normal thermal throttling to me

drifting garnet
#

Yeah

#

Well I won't have to deal with it when I build my gaming PC on Christmas.

sinful hornet
#

just because its not on the QVL list, that doesnt mean its not going to work, right?

drifting garnet
sinful hornet
#

cause im getting the rgb 16gb 3200 C16 kit

drifting garnet
#

That was during GPU test.

sinful hornet
#

but the board has support for like, everything else

foggy hazel
#

@sinful hornet correct

#

the QVL is generally for the following case: maximum amount of ram supported by the chip in use

sinful hornet
#

ah, ok

foggy hazel
#

for the following reason: that amount of ram is not cheap

#

so, its annoying as all heck if you have to play the universal game of: rma until you get something that works

sinful hornet
#

ouff, ok

#

i mean, its a pretty common kit so it should hopefully work

foggy hazel
#

yours will work

#

i was talking about the "max amount of ram the chip support" use case :)

iron berry
#

Hey naed or anyone

#

Does the chipset fan on an x570 only turn on when needed?

foggy hazel
#

it normally runs all the time

#

but, its not something to worry about

iron berry
#

Okay it runs when it turns on but then goes off

#

It was running all the time before

foggy hazel
#

then they have changed the setting for it in the bios

#

let it do what it wants @iron berry

#

:)

iron berry
#

Fair enough

#

Just curious though, all I need now is a gpu to finish it

brave flint
#

GTX 1070 or gtx 1650 super???

little osprey
#

1070

brave flint
#

okay

weak field
#

for how much tho???

brave flint
#

for what??

foggy hazel
#

@iron berry if everything else works? yes

iron berry
#

It seems to

#

Can't really tell cuz the monitor doesn't get an output @foggy hazel

crimson nimbus
#

Hi, earlier this week I got great suggestions from @stoic island about what components to use for my computer upgrade (https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wG734d). I wonder if there is a good tutorial or other source of info about how to do the upgrade so that my disks all work, the machine boots, and my Windows 10 license transfers. I'm replacing the CPU, motherboard, RAM, GPU. Any suggestions? Thank you.

gleaming quartz
#

you can do a partition copy from one disk to another using easeus

#

that generally keeps the windows installation and transfers over your data aswell

#

if that doesnt work you could always make a windows rescue drive and install windows on to the new drive and then manually drag and drop the stuff you need over to the other drive

foggy hazel
#

@crimson nimbus start by making your windows account into a online one

#

and tie your license to that

crimson nimbus
#

@foggy hazel Thank you

gleaming quartz
#

oh yeah i forgot about that

foggy hazel
#

that will save your bacon a LOT of times :)

gleaming quartz
#

true

#

i almost had to buy a whole new installation of windows when i did my build

#

but i didnt since i linked the license to an online one

crimson nimbus
#

do I need to worry about drivers for the old hardware causing trouble?

gleaming quartz
#

i dont think so no

crimson nimbus
#

OK thank you!

gleaming quartz
#

you might need to install some new ones though

#

especially your mother board drivers

crimson nimbus
#

Yes, happy to do that as long as the machine boots after I replace the hardware.

gleaming quartz
#

when i first did my build i was so scared that it didnt turn on but when i checked if everything was clicked in place, it worked

#

so dont get mad if it doesnt boot the first time you assemble it

crimson nimbus
#

Thank you. I built this machine about 7 years ago, the build went well, but it is time for an upgrade for sure. Hoping to keep the disks and all the programs / data / OS.

foggy hazel
#

do yourself a favour, grab the LAN drivers for your new board

#

and unpack them to their own folder on the windows install stick

#

because you are so far up a creek if you dont have the lan chip working :)

gleaming quartz
#

that looks nice

#

does it have mystic light support though?

#

or anything like that

crimson nimbus
#

Thank you @foggy hazel . I was hoping not to need a windows install stick, that the new hardware would find the windows install on the existing SSD and boot. Am I dreaming?

viral ore
#

on 500 dollars, get the cheapest thing you can find

#

@raw mist

raw mist
#

thx

foggy hazel
#

@crimson nimbus better safe than sorry

crimson nimbus
#

yeah for sure, thank you

gleaming quartz
#

yeah i almost screwed my main harddrive over but luckily i had a recovery stick

#

from there i had to drag everything back from windows.old to the regular windows file areas

foggy hazel
#

this might seem like being overly cautious. But i recommend that new builders take the usb stick they used, and tape it to the inside of their case somewhere

gleaming quartz
#

i just keep mine in my desk

foggy hazel
#

no matter what, they will have it around then

#

you also "know" that you should have it around @gleaming quartz

#

a new builder does not :)

crimson nimbus
#

good idea

stoic island
#

@foggy hazel I have mine plugged into rear io in the bios flashback slot lel

foggy hazel
#

well, you do you @stoic island :P

stoic island
#

well it has the bios file on it rn

#

not windows

#

since I can get windows p easily using my laptop

foggy hazel
#

aye, because you have both the access (laptop) and knowledge to fix it easily enough

#

which again, is not a guarantee with a new builder

stoic island
#

ofc

#

tho it might be a good idea to have a usb with the bios file if you have a board with bios flashback

gleaming quartz
#

i should do that

crimson nimbus
whole harbor
#

@crimson nimbus whats ur budget

#

And wat parts do u alr have?

cyan saffron
#

is 600w enough power for a 5600x and a 6800?

still bay
whole harbor
#

Ive heard u 700w was good

still bay
#

5800x in stock?

crimson nimbus
#

Thank you @whole harbor I'm planning on upgrading my machine with the parts in https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wG734d. Keeping the existing drives. Budget is about $600, but I have some flexibility.

still bay
#

with the exact mobo i want

whole harbor
#

@crimson nimbus so u alr have a case

#

And storage?

cyan saffron
#

according to my pcpartpicker build im taking 394w

still bay
#

when would it come

crimson nimbus
#

@whole harbor yes, I have the case, storage, fans etc.

whole harbor
#

ok

#

@crimson nimbus whats ur current specs

#

Or u building ur first pc or sum

little osprey
#

test

whole harbor
#

@crimson nimbus

crimson nimbus
#

@whole harbor I am upgrading a machine I build years ago (the only one I have built so I may as well be brand new at it). Here's what's in there now: ($89.99) OCZ Agility 3 AGT3-25SAT3-120G 2.5" 120GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
($88.99) Western Digital Caviar Green WD7500AZRX 750GB IntelliPower SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive - OEM
($79.99) AMD Athlon II X3 455 Rana 3.3GHz Socket AM3 95W Triple-Core Desktop Processor ADX455WFGMBOX
($59.99) BIOSTAR A880GZ AM3+ AMD 880G HDMI SATA 6Gb/s Micro ATX AMD Motherboard
($45.99) G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-8GBRL
($44.99) CORSAIR Builder Series CX430 V2 (CMPSU-430CXV2) 430W ATX12V v2.3 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply
($17.99) LG DVD Burner 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM Black SATA Model GH24NS90 - OEM
($17.99) Logitech MK120 Black USB Wired Slim Desktop

whole harbor
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(🚨🚨🚨DO NOT GET THE $300 FROM AMAZON🚨🚨🚨)

little osprey
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Can anyone help me determine if I can play Blades and Sorcery VR on steam? It only gives me intel/nvidia specs

crimson nimbus
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@whole harbor Thank you! could I use the asus 1650 instead, as it is in stock?

whole harbor
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1660 super is better

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but if u want a 1650 super tell me

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Plus come back here on black friday or cyber monday

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If u want more help with good deals

crimson nimbus
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@whole harbor Good point should wait for the deals. Will do. Thank you for the help, much appreciated.

whole harbor
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np