plus it would allow you to cheap out on ram lol
#building-and-recc-chat
viral ore
glacial umbra
yeah
that's why I was considering it
what'd be a good motherboard to use with it?
warm bear
Hey, computer noob here. I have some questions regarding i/o shields.
viral ore
@glacial umbra give me a few more mins
warm bear
I need a shield for an ATX z390 mobo
glacial umbra
alright
stoic island
IO shield usually comes with the motherboard
warm bear
nope
glacial umbra
yeah
warm bear
my main worry with the missing i/o shield is that the wqires that will be connected to it will break off the ports on the mobo itself
viral ore
@glacial umbra what are you using this system for specifically?
also whats your total budget?
glacial umbra
gaming and maybe video editing in the future
budget of around 800-900 CAD
I already bought my GPU
viral ore
what gpu?
glacial umbra
1070 Ti
viral ore
and do you have monitor?
glacial umbra
for 200 CAD
viral ore
1070ti nice
warm bear
yeah, I read that too, but that's just my worry because I don't know the "structural integrity" in a sense.
glacial umbra
monitor isn't included in the 800
I have one in mind already
i also have the case
viral ore
im thinking 1080p @ 144hz
glacial umbra
ATX case so I don't want an mATX
viral ore
right?
glacial umbra
yeah lol
i have a parts list
but the cpu and motherboard aren't really concrete yet
mATX in an atx case is always pretty weird looking and it's hard to cable manage
warm bear
I also looked up the specs of shields and I found the 1U 2U and 3U sizes charts, but still don't quite understand how to find the right one, lol. slightly lost
viral ore
mATX in an atx case is always pretty weird looking and it's hard to cable manage
@glacial umbra i couldnt agree more
i already thought i found a good board too
but nvm lol
would you want a smaller cheap case instead?
glacial umbra
nah I have one already
warm bear
right, I have an ATX mobo with z390 chipset, but still couldn't find just that in google alone
viral ore
ATX board is 40 more
the other cheaper ATX boards only use 6 screws, which is just downright stupid
rapid hound
For a build with a budget of $900 would it be best to build right now or wait for new parts to release? (RTX 3060 and AMD 5600)
@wicked kayak if you go for waiting youll probably have to wait way longer than just launch
wicked kayak
@rapid hound yeah I already have been waiting for a few months. Sucks that the lower end parts get released later
Even though they are the most popular ones
warm bear
ugh, I honestly don't like eBay, lol. to me it's scetchy, but thank you.
rapid hound
it really does and i cant even get my hands on a 5600x and a 3070
foggy hazel
@warm bear keep in mind, you dont need the IO shield.
balmy patio
honestly i'd agree with him
if i were to build a rig and forget to put an i/o shield, i'll jus leave it without one and pray that nothing bad happens
viral ore
what you think of this? https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/ppLcxc
thats with a new case and mATX board tho
warm bear
So the cords won't nearly rip the ports off the board itself?
foggy hazel
@warm bear the shield does not magically prevent that.
@timber cedar it would be appreciated IF you didnt invent words for what i said.
viral ore
@timber cedar stop arguing with naed please
foggy hazel
that is your assumption.
viral ore
sOuRcE?
warm bear
ok, well thanks for the help. have a good day everyone 🙂
balmy patio
smh
glacial umbra
@viral ore I'd probably stick with the case and atx motherboard as well as go with 16 gb of ram
stoic island
@timber cedar I think the sources that we want are what you're arguing against
glacial umbra
my budget of 800 doesn't include monitor so
stoic island
we can't keep track of every discussion that goes on
glacial umbra
I'd probably be able to do those upgrades
balmy patio
no, i told you that it was possible if you fiddle with the settings @timber cedar
viral ore
i forgot i originally didnt think 16gb was gonna make it under 800 CAD
glacial umbra
lol
balmy patio
but i didn't say with the same settings smh
glacial umbra
My budget used to be much higher because of the graphics card but
viral ore
@timber cedar could you go to #general-chat
still roostBOT
Erinyes#9495 has been warned
balmy patio
dont
foggy hazel
@cursive magnet that is uncalled for. Please dont do that.
glacial umbra
@viral ore thanks for the help 😎
stable oxide
@foggy hazel sent you something in dms about my neverending pc problem lmao
viral ore
np
rapid hound
Hello any opinions on this list, id really like some insight https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FT74p2
stoic island
@rapid hound main thing I would change is AIO
motherboard is overpriced, but that's a secondary thing, and it's fine.
inland parrot
Hey what is a good fan curve for a 5700xt gaming x for ryzen 5 3600
stoic island
Fan curves are more of a personal preference thing you have to trial and error yourself :)
rapid hound
@rapid hound main thing I would change is AIO
@stoic island lemme guess you would put a arctic freezer ii?
stoic island
EK-AIO
hollow warren
ummm guys
stoic island
:D
hollow warren
why arent my gpu fans spinning
deep skiff
does it have 0 rpm mode
stoic island
GPU fan curve sometimes just don't spin under a certain temp
rapid hound
and also what motherboard could be good for overclocking
stoic island
that mobo will do good
hollow warren
balmy patio
yeah some gpu fans dont spin under low loads
inland parrot
@hollow warren dont buy that gpu,
inland parrot
Oh
deep skiff
yes it has a 0 rpm mode
inland parrot
I have msi afterbunner
deep skiff
if you need the motherboard or the cables probably not
foggy hazel
@hoary cloak depends on how much you need the parts to work
hoary cloak
Welll it’s a mobo I’m replacing
And these wires are in tight asfff
One on the right
Here lol
Those two
tawdry lance
Could someone put together a 1600-1700 usd pc on pc part picker so I could get a basis on what I should be getting around that budget?
trail shuttle
Yo whats a good psu for under 100 plz specific product 650W
stoic island
Seasonig focus GM 650w at 100usd iirc
stoic island
tryna think
foggy hazel
@hoary cloak there is a latch on both of those
hoary cloak
The second one will not come out
next kestrel
and its always scary
little osprey
next kestrel
because you never know the "breaking point"
little osprey
maybe someone can put a case thats less expensive but still good airflow
foggy hazel
@hoary cloak the EPS has 2 latches, of the type that @next kestrel showed in a picture
sinful hornet
@little osprey solid build
foggy hazel
aye, EPS
hoary cloak
It worked thanks Fr
sinful hornet
As for a cheaper case, try the p400a
next kestrel
or meshify c
sinful hornet
Or that
foggy hazel
and EPS is 1 latch per 4 pins
sinful hornet
Meshify c is still like $140 in Canada
next kestrel
nvm its back up
trail shuttle
whats a good psu plz @
sinful hornet
Where the psu wizards at
balmy patio
little osprey
p400a or p400a digital?
balmy patio
ur question was already answered @trail shuttle
sinful hornet
Either is good
little osprey
i guess the only difference is rgb lol
trail shuttle
no @balmy patio
sinful hornet
Same case, just one with rgb fans
balmy patio
why not?
little osprey
yeah i dont really care for rbg right now
sinful hornet
So if you’re planning on buying more fabs, get the non digital
But I think the non digital only comes with 2 fans
trail shuttle
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/FlamingPhoenix07/saved/#view=6y6wcf
whats a good psu plz @
little osprey
seems like it
balmy patio
@trail shuttle a 3600 and a 3070 will work fine with a good 650w unit
little osprey
so maybe ill get the digital for the extra fan
some people said they had to buy extra fans
trail shuttle
whats a good 650 psu @balmy patio
balmy patio
i would recommend having at least two fans, one in the front at the bottom and one in the back, three fans is pretty much ideal for me, 2 in front and one in back
foggy hazel
@trail shuttle a solid choice is the Phantek AMP
little osprey
so the digital has how many?
glacial umbra
@little osprey Does anything happen when you turn it on?
Like does it just not turn on or does it turn on and then off, etc.
trail shuttle
@foggy hazel it does not have a price in pc part picker
foggy hazel
out of stock then
clever jetty
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sC7GPV what cpu should i use and any thoughts ?
sinful hornet
Where’s as the non dig only has 1 front 1 back if I remember correctly
little osprey
oh ok so the digital fs worth it
hoary cloak
I have a problem
clever jetty
gaming
little osprey
just waiting for a good deal on the 3070. hopefully i get my hands on one
hoary cloak
The cords stuck in here
hoary cloak
Lol
sinful hornet
How...
hoary cloak
I have no idea
foggy hazel
flip the board @hoary cloak take a picture of the back area
gaunt vortex
What is the other end connected to.
sinful hornet
Bruh what
gaunt vortex
That's an oddly thick round cable for anything internal I am used too
hoary cloak
Ok
gaunt vortex
It looks like an old round IDE but that cannot possibly be the case.
foggy hazel
its too thin for that @gaunt vortex
hoary cloak
Connected from up there lmao
viral ore
its not nearly thick enough for that
steel flare
would i get call names if i got alot kf high end components, like everything is high ends but have a gpu like a 1050ti?
gaunt vortex
Well that and there is no way the header would ever fit in there.
foggy hazel
also true :)
gaunt vortex
it's connected to the disk drive?
foggy hazel
@hoary cloak could you take a shot of the full board please
as in, showing all of the front of the board at the same time?
hoary cloak
hoary cloak
Above
gaunt vortex
Top/front panel connectors maybe then?
viral ore
is there a usb header there or something?
foggy hazel
@hoary cloak do you have that full front shot of the board?
viral ore
hoary cloak
Yeah
foggy hazel
it is
obsidian temple
I bought my motherboard!!!!!
foggy hazel
aye, push to towards the bottom of the board
viral ore
get a flathead screwdriver if you need some prying force
foggy hazel
and when its clear
hoary cloak
It’s through
foggy hazel
you should be able to pull it up along the side of the headsink
as in, towards the IO shield side
gently thou
gaunt vortex
Crisis averted!
foggy hazel
but that is one very very weird place to have a IO connector
viral ore
Dell at one point put their 3.0 headers in that general area
foggy hazel
then again, it is a ASrock board
gaunt vortex
I just want to take a quick moment to let everyone know you can still buy brand new round IDE cables from Thermaltake on Amazon. For the 2 people who still have computers with IDE drives on this discord.
foggy hazel
if they are not neon coloured, i will be disappointed @gaunt vortex
little osprey
are custom combed cables worth it?
gaunt vortex
Yes, it's the old standard for HDDs and CD drives.
foggy hazel
ide cables = common name for P-ata cables
prisma stag
test'
gaunt vortex
Well, it was not even announced until 2000, so, not quite decades.
gaunt vortex
Yeah, I know the second computer I built in 2004 still used PATA
2000 is when SATA was announced
not available.
Ok? And?
Is anyone arguing that we need to bring PATA back?
balmy patio
like cable extensions?
little osprey
yeah
gaunt vortex
I mean. They're purely for the aesthetics.
balmy patio
if you meant that, then yes, they are worth it if you're looking for aesthetics
little osprey
i am thinking of getting the p400a or the p500a
gaunt vortex
unless you mean extensions for actual reach.
little osprey
what are the main differences
native plover
/reply @native plover stupidd
little osprey
other than the more stoarge drives
sinful hornet
Woah what is this fancy reply thing I’m seeing
I’m on mobile
So I don’t know how it looks on pc
little osprey
in the p500a
severe axle
p500a has 3x140mm instead of 3x120mm
native plover
/reply hi
severe axle
and the rgb strip
native plover
what
severe axle
*in the front that is
native plover
oh ima close restart my discord
little osprey
other than the 3*140mm and the rgb strip
native plover
/reply
hoary cloak
stupid question but wtf am I doing wrong I’m installing a cpu cooler
little osprey
ok so cable extension have no good use besides aesthetic
hoary cloak
And the screws just won’t go down
native plover
hi
timid rampart
If i post my pc parts list can you guys check it and tell me if it is good?
sinful hornet
In other words, yes
foggy hazel
@hoary cloak backplate
timid rampart
hoary cloak
Wdym @foggy hazel
foggy hazel
which cooler are you installing @hoary cloak ?
little osprey
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jPwYdD
good monitor that wont exceed my $1500 budget?
timid rampart
@hoary cloak yea i think so
vast loom
Please help i tripped over my power strip and now my Pc wont turn on
timid rampart
I dont plan to overclock
hoary cloak
Yikes
foggy hazel
@hoary cloak on what board?
hoary cloak
B450 f gaming
timid rampart
?
foggy hazel
aye, that needs the backplate @hoary cloak
on the back of the board there is a metal plate
tiny oriole
all i can recommend is get a board that can work with 5th gen ryzen just so you can upgrade in the future
timid rampart
@tiny oriole b550 does right?
hoary cloak
Yeah I see it
native plover
I'll change the mobo later
tiny oriole
@timid rampart ill have to look it up, idk it on the top of my head
native plover
i already bought it
foggy hazel
that one might be moving away from the screws when you are trying to install the cooler @hoary cloak
timid rampart
@tiny oriole it said it has support ive never built a pc yet but look to soon
native plover
👍
hoary cloak
So what do I do
foggy hazel
just put a couple of fingers on them and press it back against the board.
hoary cloak
Ok
foggy hazel
all the red is perfectly safe to push on
do NOT push in the cutout.
and keep in mind, you diagonally tighten the screws
@hoary cloak
foggy hazel
but for now, your goal is to just get the screws to at least catch
hoary cloak
Ok
whole harbor
@native plover https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TRV4p2
Man rlly had no sad in his build
LOL
sinful hornet
Dis mans just posted in #build-pics saying “sacrificing airflow for aesthetics” go down vote em lmao
whole harbor
Bruh
foggy hazel
his choice @sinful hornet
whole harbor
performance>looks
foggy hazel
so please dont encourage voting like that
frozen axle
quick question about my build i was recommended the b550 tomohawk (ignore the x570 tomohawk meant to be b550 but im lazy) but i was also able to haggle down an x570 tuf pro to about 167 https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RmCwYg
native plover
I use my sister's laptop for online zoom
it has a ssd and it turns on quick insanely quick
whole harbor
/reply @timber cedar ok
native plover
im gonna boot off of m.2 ssd
whole harbor
/reply
little osprey
if i cant get my hands on a 30 series gpu what would be the next best thing?
hoary cloak
It refuses to work
native plover
🙂
whole harbor
When u buy windows do you just get a code to use?
foggy hazel
@whole harbor only download it from microsoft directly.
hoary lichen
Lmao
whole harbor
@foggy hazel pretty sure if I use my microsoft acc ill have windows
hoary lichen
Ive had my Microsoft account for like 4-5 years
little osprey
how much does a 3070 go for retail rn?
hoary lichen
I dont think that changed the fact that i have to pay for windows
foggy hazel
@little osprey 500 and up
whole harbor
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zY8rMv gonna get a 1660 super if 5600xt doesnt go on discount
Prob
carmine marten
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Pog_Mog443/saved/gzthkL I'm probably gonna get a 2060 but are there any others graphics cards you guys think would work well around the same price
cyan saffron
Hi people, I am looking for comments and recommendations about my build. I have an offer from my friend to buy my current system so ill start gathering (or at least order parts that are backorder) parts for my new build. Let me know what you think of it
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/3fh9Cz
foggy hazel
@cyan saffron why 2 coolers?
balmy patio
his goals are beyond our understanding @foggy hazel
little osprey
a 5600xt is equivalent to what?
karmic trellis
Is this where I can post a build and get free opinions?
whole harbor
@hoary lichen are u gonna be upgrading
whole harbor
one sec
foggy hazel
@karmic trellis yes
cyan saffron
i removed the noctua so i think you can refresh itll work
foggy hazel
no, changes to the list = new url :)
whole harbor
@hoary lichen
hoary lichen
?
whole harbor
Do u need 3600mhz ram?
hoary lichen
Yea
whole harbor
or can u do 3200mhz
foggy hazel
hence why the second time you posted the list that you are considering, the url changed @cyan saffron :)
hoary lichen
I like to have a lot of things open
karmic trellis
Currently looking to do upgrades in stages. I have a NZXT H510, with Samsung 870 EVO 500gb SSD, 1tb WD HDD.
cyan saffron
carmine marten
Are there any graphics cards around the price of the 2060 you guys would recommend?
carmine marten
carmine marten
the 2060 I've been looking at is $320 but out of stick for a bit
foggy hazel
@cyan saffron any particular reason for the specific parts?
carmine marten
I gotta save up for a bit anyways for a monitor and mnk
carmine marten
It's my first build 🙂
whole harbor
@carmine marten
carmine marten
Is the performance of the 1660 ti or super better rather than a 2060? I don't care about ray tracing
whole harbor
cyan saffron
@foggy hazel well i want the new amd architecture on an itx form factor
whole harbor
get windows for $5 of ebay @carmine marten
little osprey
get windows for $5 of ebay @carmine marten
@whole harbor how do you even find legit keys?
whole harbor
@little osprey idk ask the techies
carmine marten
ok thanks @hoary lichen
whole harbor
thats the 2060s
hoary lichen
It isnt
whole harbor
Nvm
whole harbor
Just get a 5600xt
sapphire
@carmine marten https://pcpartpicker.com/list/swDwYg
buy that
vital hare
hey guys im doin a rlly budget build should i do a 2070 or a rx 5700xt
little osprey
hes asking what your budget is
jagged ember
really budget does not comply with a 2070
whole harbor
Ikr
little osprey
^
jagged ember
that's not budget
vital hare
eh
jagged ember
that's big budget
little osprey
^
jagged ember
this is good, friend
carmine marten
thats a thicc budget
little osprey
yeahh
vital hare
ive seen a lot of driver issues w the radeons tho so idk yet
jagged ember
little osprey
i mean 5700xt is slightly better than normal 2070 from what ive seen
jagged ember
oh, but they're all new cpu and GPU
vital hare
ah i see
inland parrot
I have to 5700xt no issues so far
vital hare
gaming but also work from home type you know
whole harbor
Imagine having a $1500 budget and not getting the 30 series
vital hare
got it
whole harbor
Or 6000
jagged ember
if you can get your hands on the new parts it'll be perfect
vital hare
well i would but that would now cost like 3/4 of my budget thx to scalpers
little osprey
^
carmine marten
My budget is around $1k
whole harbor
Bruh
vital hare
damn
carmine marten
the last thing I need to order is the graphics card
whole harbor
lemme fix urs
jagged ember
last i checked the 3600xt is cheaper than the 3600
little osprey
i wanna get a 30 series but i highly doubt ill be able to get one considering its still a recent release plus cyber monday coming up
whole harbor
Is there more pc deals on black friday or cyber monday
Id think cyber monday
but idk
little osprey
cyber monday is more widely used for websites considering its called CYBER monday
native plover
whole harbor
so do i order parts on cyber minday
carmine marten
monitor price has been skyrocketing for the holidays but I'm not sure about graphics cards
remote junco
Would it be safe to boot off 1, 1 tb ssd and add a second tb ssd later?
little osprey
yes cyber monday would be ideal but also check on black friday just in case
remote junco
I was just gonna get 2 , 970s
whole harbor
more than enough
jagged ember
lol no don't get 970s unless they're under msrp
remote junco
1 at first then add another later
jagged ember
if they're at normal price it's not worth it
remote junco
I don’t care about price I just wanna know if I’ll be fine for 2 weeks😂
pearl blade
blackfriday is in a week so hopefully some older stuff will be on sale
jagged ember
cheaper and still good performance
little osprey
so is a 2tb seagate good to buy rn?
jagged ember
buy whichever is cheaper
remote junco
Thanks for the recommendation I’ll check them out.
jagged ember
2tb seagate is fine to buy
hoary lichen
Just watched this vid on how to install amd drivers
https://youtu.be/K5FMpYYVPQI
jagged ember
price on newegg hasn't changed
whole harbor
What brands have good 1660 supers
fresh jewel
I have 4 sticks of ram and 2 sticks run 10 degrees hotter than the other two. Is there a way to tell which stick is which? I am reading temps with HWMonitor.
little osprey
ok well i want to get a 3070 but i doubt i will be able to get one so is a 2070s or 5700xt better?
little osprey
no one answering my ? 
hoary lichen
Someone in the comments said their drivers were 6 months old lmao
I mean
I dont know much about the 3070
Or the 5700xt
I can check tho
@little osprey want me to?
pearl blade
little osprey
sure
hoary lichen
Alr brb
whole harbor
Is it fine to get 1660 oc with 3 case fans 2fans on gpu 600w psu @earnest olive
@stoic island
Any techie
@jagged ember
whole harbor
@balmy patio read msg above
stoic island
UB bad
whole harbor
whats ub @stoic island
balmy patio
the website
balmy patio
userbenchmark.com i think
hoary lichen
Yea
whole harbor
Joesr
balmy patio
it jus takes benchmarks from other users and puts it on graphs and compares them
whole harbor
Tryna read the msg up a lip
jagged ember
600W for a 1660 should be fine
balmy patio
like how map apps use ur location to know how much traffic there is
you'll be fine dulvn
jagged ember
i'd worry more about Nvidia's power limits lol
hoary lichen
Brb
jagged ember
they're very conservative with those apparently
whole harbor
@jagged ember wdym
jagged ember
MSI afterburner tells me everytime i try to auto oc that power is the limiting factor
meaning that NVIDIA sets very conservative power limits on your GPU that auto OC usually can't get around
jagged ember
oh, it'll be fine
hoary lichen
Ngl i just watched some gameplay of the 1660 super and the 5600xt and the 5600xt looks kind of better to me
whole harbor
will it reduce the longevity
hoary lichen
jagged ember
assuming your fans are actually moving air into the case it'll be fine
jagged ember
will it reduce the longevity
likely not something you'll worry about
whole harbor
@hoary lichen thats why is cost more 🤦♂️
hoary lichen
Lmao
balmy patio
dulvn with that build you'll be fine
balmy patio
it's nice
balmy patio
Dont get be
@whole harbor what's be
whole harbor
i think its the fan
jagged ember
ack don't get a EVGA BR
whole harbor
be is blower i think
hoary lichen
balmy patio
that card isn't a blower fan
whole harbor
If he wants tho
uneven sun
i dont know what parts to get
jagged ember
it's a low priority unit
balmy patio
that card uses two fans to cool, not a blower
jagged ember
i will not trust it
jagged ember
Tier C low priority
hoary lichen
Can you pick a better one then? I don’t really know how to choose
jagged ember
i'd go better if i could
whole harbor
Oh lol
earnest olive
@whole harbor do you really need to mass ping every time you have a question
whole harbor
Just get rvga BA
earnest olive
not the first time you've done it
whole harbor
@earnest olive yes
earnest olive
alright i'll just block you then pce
arctic jungle
I'm just curious
whole harbor
ok 😦
balmy patio
whats up antago
whole harbor
ANTAGO UR NOT TECHIE???
jagged ember
rip sips
whole harbor
BRUH
jagged ember
sips works hard, man
arctic jungle
Need serious opinions and thoughts
hoary lichen
@jagged ember can you pick a better power supply i dont really know how to pick
You said you dont trust it right?
arctic jungle
If I took a freezer, made an ice cutter, and somehow got the tiny mashed ice into a custom loop , any idea the performance increase using ice water over normal water?
uneven sun
what parts should i get for a 1000 dollar budget
little osprey
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Hkw3wz
i originally had a 3070 put into the build but i doubt ill get one so 2070s or 5700xt would be my guess for the next best thing but idk what brand or type to get
uneven sun
dm me the parts
whole harbor
@hoary lichen https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mydqHz
arctic jungle
I know it would cost the same to get a tec, but yea
balmy patio
wouldn't the mashed ice restrict water flow
jagged ember
acutally scratch mine
balmy patio
semi modular is semi modularity
jagged ember
gg dulvn
whole harbor
what does it do
jagged ember
it means less cables to manage
whole harbor
mk
foggy hazel
@arctic jungle it would level out very quickly
balmy patio
its as if full modularity and non modular had babies
foggy hazel
yes @jagged ember ?
arctic jungle
<@543998553022922761> https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mydqHz
Don't get 3600 mhz ram... Save and get 3200 mhz, then pick up an rx 5700xt, it's on sale, 335$ rn
exotic vault
Guys I need help
jagged ember
hi lmao
foggy hazel
ah, hello :)
arctic jungle
<@!488727322921271307> it would level out very quickly
mk
jagged ember
it's not often you're around
arctic jungle
Ty for thoughts
whole harbor
@arctic jungle its not my build its @hoary lichen he needs the mhz
foggy hazel
IF you had a way to keep the water chilled (which is basically what you do with a refrigerator unit) then you would then have the benefit from that
hoary cloak
foggy hazel
but that ofc adds the noise/power from that to everything
hoary cloak
Are these nvme screws?
jagged ember
looks like one
foggy hazel
looks like it @hoary cloak
arctic jungle
<@!488727322921271307> its not my build its <@543998553022922761> he needs the m...
What does that even mean
'need the mhz'
jagged ember
i feel like with a 3100 though
whole harbor
he says he has a lot of stuff open
jagged ember
will 3600mhz benefit it?
arctic jungle
Ram speed doesn't affect that @whole harbor
jagged ember
noticeably over a 3200Mhz?
whole harbor
ask him then
arctic jungle
will 3600mhz benefit it?
Minimally
jagged ember
right, okay
arctic jungle
I'm not gonna force someone into not being dumb
jagged ember
for opening multiple things capacity matters more than speed
arctic jungle
Waste of time, as I have learned
Say something, and u either take it or u don't
Don't bother forcing info into someone
whole harbor
lul
arctic jungle
If he wants to waste money, let him
whole harbor
antago mad rn
arctic jungle
I'm not
jagged ember
he makes a fair point though
little osprey
@arctic jungle where is the 5700xt on sale for that price?
arctic jungle
Im just being frank
whole harbor
$335
jagged ember
not targeting anyone, but his argument is valid
arctic jungle
<@!488727322921271307> where is the 5700xt on sale for that price?
Idk exact model, it's the msi onr with white rings around the fans... It's got 2 fans
whole harbor
@arctic jungle is the 3100 ok with the 5700xt?
jagged ember
it'll be good
little osprey
on pcpp?
arctic jungle
Idk if it's still around, that was on Monday night
whole harbor
Im bouta cop
foggy hazel
you cannot force anyone to listen.
jagged ember
yeah other than maybe lowering the ram to a 3200mhz i wouldn't make any more changes
arctic jungle
There is one for 350 tho on pcpp I think...bthatbwas ystrdy
foggy hazel
no matter how wrong they might be.
arctic jungle
yeah other than maybe lowering the ram to a 3200mhz i wouldn't make any more cha...
5700xt it's on sale right now!!!
jagged ember
AYY
little osprey
yeah the 350 one is the lowest on pcpp
arctic jungle
350 or less or soemthing
little osprey
right now
jagged ember
noice noice
little osprey
does it matter if its oc or not?
whole harbor
but i dont think itll pair well with my 3100
arctic jungle
does it matter if its oc or not?
Very slight performance climb
arctic jungle
Difference of 1-2% for oc cards
arctic jungle
but i dont think itll pair well with my 3100
Oh smh it's fine
little osprey
whole harbor
rlly?
arctic jungle
A factory oc won't bottleneck it or anything unless u have poop mobo
arctic jungle
As in poop I mean < 70$
arctic jungle
is $350 a good enough deal to buy rn?
Yes
foggy hazel
check the graph for price history @whole harbor
jagged ember
it's a pretty good deal
arctic jungle
Normal price is 410-420
foggy hazel
and then decide for yourself :)
still roostBOT
dulvn#1815 has been warned
little osprey
do yall expect it to go down for Cyber Monday>??
arctic jungle
Rn it's all time low
jagged ember
past 120 days
whole harbor
Ok imma cop
jagged ember
it's pretty good ngl
arctic jungle
do yall expect it to go down for Cyber Monday>??
Only to what it is right now
foggy hazel
personal preference is looking at least a year back
jagged ember
fair
little osprey
ok
foggy hazel
because seasonal pricing etc etc
foggy hazel
that IS a nice price
jagged ember
it's never been lower in the past year!
little osprey
well hopefully by the time im able to buy my parts the price wont go up. which will be a couple days
little osprey
thts the one im getting
arctic jungle
u need to look for gpu models tho when buying a card
hasty minnow
quick question idk if any of you know at all but I’m looking to get an rtx 3070 for my first pc build do you guys think I’d be able to get one before Christmas?
arctic jungle
Ex. Never buy an xfx fatboy card, unless ur on a bigggg budget
jagged ember
quick question idk if any of you know at all but I’m looking to get an rtx 3070 ...
Good luck
little osprey
^
jagged ember
you're really gonna need it
hasty minnow
yeah I know
little osprey
those are on high demand right now
jagged ember
i would not rely on those odds lol
arctic jungle
quick question idk if any of you know at all but I’m looking to get an rtx 3070 ...
I have a link I'll send you in morning, almost garuntees a 3070 within a week
hasty minnow
also 3060 ti is looking pretty good but it’ll probably get snatched up too
arctic jungle
U can't share it tho
hasty minnow
alright is it like 3x the price?
little osprey
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DqZQdD is 750w a bit too much or should i keep it?
arctic jungle
@little osprey 550-650w would be a better choice... 750 is good if ur gonna upgrade
jagged ember
holy jesus
that's a lot of power lol
got nothing to add, though
antago beat me to it
little osprey
yeah i dont think i will be able to upgrade for a while so might as well cut the price for a 600 or 650
whole harbor
Ordering gpu rn
jagged ember
order the whole damn thing
near sky
Can anyone help me newbie out? I'm looking at the ASRock B550 Phantom Gaming 4 motherboard and I'm wondering if it's any good
little osprey
i will be getting my parts all together for my first build
arctic jungle
Normally I say buy everything at once but these are strange times where everything is even more out of stock
near sky
Am going to put it with my ryzen 7 5800x
arctic jungle
Can anyone help me newbie out? I'm looking at the ASRock B550 Phantom Gaming 4 m...
It's an amazing price performance mobo but I don't recommend heavy overclocking on it
jagged ember
the b550 phantom gaming 4 is a fine motherboard for a 5800x
jagged ember
but yeah, only stock operation and maybe slight OC mostly
little osprey
ok so what psu would be good for my build
near sky
What would be a good motherboard with good OC capabilities?
arctic jungle
but yeah, only stock operation and maybe slight OC mostly
Ram oc is good, gpu oc is fine too... Stay away from cpu oc
Oh
Um
There's a bunch
None within that price range
That are 'good' at heavy oc
near sky
Asus Prime b550-Plus?
arctic jungle
Don't get me wrong phantom gaming 4 is a good mobo, but no heavy oc
near sky
Oh
arctic jungle
I recommend msi gaming x- active vrm cooling, all the x570 quirks, it's a rlly good mobo... It's 160-170$ tho
arctic jungle
Keep in mind if ur gaming, a cpu/ram overclock isn't going to provide more than a 1-3% performance boost @near sky
little osprey
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Tc8ZcT good psu or is there better
hoary cloak
Fellas
arctic jungle
It's only really worth it for cpu intensive tasks that benefit from a faster core as well as a bigger one
Like renderin
Or cad
near sky
I was told that 5800x stock is already good enough
arctic jungle
It is
near sky
so I'm probably just going to OC my gpu
arctic jungle
It's amazing
hoary cloak
How do u install nvme properly I’m using a magnet screwdriver and it just goes out every time I put it in the whole
near sky
and maybe ram if possible
arctic jungle
@near sky that would be the smart desicions.
near sky
How would OC'ing ram work?
near sky
I'm currently a college student learning how to do 3DS modelling. I also do video editing and gaming
arctic jungle
It's just changing the timings and voltages to make it faster and faster until it stops giving performance boost
near sky
so I generally expect my new pc to last a heck of a long time haha
arctic jungle
I'm currently a college student learning how to do 3DS modelling. I also do vide...
Amazing! What college if u don't mind me askingM
near sky
George Brown College
arctic jungle
sick
near sky
My new campus is pretty chill
arctic jungle
3d modelling is hard :/
near sky
It's okay once you get used to it @.@
arctic jungle
As a 3d scene design student, it's one of my biggest problems
little osprey
arctic jungle
I can't hash out my own scenes lol
foggy hazel
@hoary cloak elaborate please
near sky
Haha
I'll take a look around and see if there are better deals
Thanks for helping me @arctic jungle
arctic jungle
Do you have a pcpp? I can go over it if u want
near sky
Yeah, let me get it
little osprey
is that psu good for my build?
whole harbor
Is $240 5600xt msi good
arctic jungle
I can't actually edit anything bc I'm on my phone rn, so I'll just tell you what can change @near sky
near sky
Okay
whole harbor
its just a newegg dral
near sky
whole harbor
Lowkey bouta cop a $120 2600
arctic jungle
@near sky ok- idk abt pricing, I'm in US, so regional pricing is throwing me off a bit- but get a samsung 970 or mp34... They should be about the same price. For psu, get an fractal design ion+, whichever wattage you need. For case, get a td500 mesh. If you can fit it in the budget, get 3600 mhz cl16 ram. Either 2x16, or 4x8... 2x16 should be cheaper.
arctic jungle
@whole harbor sure
whole harbor
So so i cop?
polar anvil
Hopefully i dont get disappointed for black friday
near sky
Oh shoot, i forgot to tell you I already bought the storage
arctic jungle
oh NVM then
near sky
haha yeah
arctic jungle
If u have it, use it
arctic jungle
hoary cloak
@foggy hazel so j have the circular piece in where the screw goes
arctic jungle
I think it matches the usd equivalent @near sky
hoary cloak
But I’m using and magnetic screwdriver and it refuses to go in the whole it keeps popping out
arctic jungle
It's a pretty high end mobo, i'de put it up with the rog e and f tier mobos but without rgb @near sky
Those are 400 canadian I think
near sky
ouch my wallet
arctic jungle
Lol
For a build like that, honestly this is a mobo I would go for- I don't have the link on hand but try finding the b550 version of it
I think the b550 is a solid 60-70 less
arctic jungle
Not much... td500 just looks better in my opinion
near sky
Oh wow
arctic jungle
All personal preference but yeah I've seen both, meshify isn't too hot
Main think would be ur not spending 30 extra on fans and instead getting a nicer looking case
little osprey
also td500 a little cheaper by a couple dollars