#building-and-recc-chat | Newegg | Page 507

little osprey Apr 28, 2020, 2:13 PM

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Why wont u just plug it to ethernet?

deft zephyr Apr 28, 2020, 2:13 PM

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Cant

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The wifi box is not in my room

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 2:14 PM

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@little osprey cabling/walls/reasons <- all valid for "why not plug it"

deft zephyr Apr 28, 2020, 2:14 PM

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its across the house

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yeah

little osprey Apr 28, 2020, 2:14 PM

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Mhm, mine is too

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I just bought a 40ft cable

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And ran it across the walls

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 2:15 PM

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@deft zephyr you did not answer the "saving up" question

deft zephyr Apr 28, 2020, 2:15 PM

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Yes

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I am

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But i had a wifi adapter already

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 2:15 PM

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meaning, you are worrying about things that will have changed a fair deal by the time you are going to actually buy parts

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in other words

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please stop worrying about stuff that does not matter

deft zephyr Apr 28, 2020, 2:16 PM

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ok

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 2:17 PM

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i know you might feel tempted to ask "but, what if?"

deft zephyr Apr 28, 2020, 2:17 PM

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??? no i understand

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 2:17 PM

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until you have the money to buy the parts, it really doesnt make much sense to worry

deft zephyr Apr 28, 2020, 2:18 PM

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You are right

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 2:18 PM

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@thin bramble the bot will keep on eating your links, its anti spam prevention

deft zephyr Apr 28, 2020, 2:18 PM

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Also on my old pc i had a 500w EVGA Power supply, can i use that or is it a better idea to buy it?

thin bramble Apr 28, 2020, 2:18 PM

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haha, I'm trying to link a pc part picker url

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didn't know

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 2:19 PM

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@thin bramble so, please send the link as a DM to me, and i will post on behalf of you :)

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very little chance of the old PSU being worth anything in that regard @deft zephyr

deft zephyr Apr 28, 2020, 2:19 PM

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Ok thanks

thin bramble Apr 28, 2020, 2:19 PM

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it's a build I made for the stimulus check specifically

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 2:19 PM

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on behalf of @thin bramble
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mqvsBZ

System Builder

thin bramble Apr 28, 2020, 2:20 PM

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Just wanted thoughts/opinions

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 2:20 PM

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a couple of questions really

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are you 100% locked into the ATX size?

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or would you be okay with perhaps a m-atx?

warped moat Apr 28, 2020, 2:21 PM

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SSD is also overpriced

thin bramble Apr 28, 2020, 2:21 PM

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for the mobo?

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 2:21 PM

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@thin bramble both for the mainboard and the case really

thin bramble Apr 28, 2020, 2:22 PM

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The case is non-negotiable, I absolutely love the meshify. the mobo came down to asthetics really, I was going to go a tomahawk but decided against it. The SSD is actually the only thing I got off amazon, which it's at 100, and the samsung m.2 is absolutely worth the price

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it's like what 4.5 read

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 2:23 PM

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@thin bramble you wanted thoughts/opinions about your parts right?

thin bramble Apr 28, 2020, 2:23 PM

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yeah

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 2:23 PM

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long story short is this:

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ssd = overpriced and small for the price

warped moat Apr 28, 2020, 2:23 PM

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Samsung May have the best speeds but like are you ever gonna make use of those speeds

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 2:24 PM

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mainboard = overpriced and lacks features vs other boards at cheaper prices

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ram = overpriced for performance

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cpu cooler: overpriced and not needed

thin bramble Apr 28, 2020, 2:24 PM

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can you give some mobos for examples, been doing a lot of mobo research

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 2:25 PM

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Asus makes a board called "b450 Pro gaming"

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there is also a "b450M Pro gaming"

thin bramble Apr 28, 2020, 2:25 PM

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btw this is a build that I intend to keep for 3~years without any updates

warped moat Apr 28, 2020, 2:25 PM

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Also do you plan on streaming at all

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 2:25 PM

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the later one is normally sold for 95-100

thin bramble Apr 28, 2020, 2:26 PM

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haha

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I actually gave you the wrong link

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omg

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 2:26 PM

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dm me the right one then

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you are not a blue name yet, so you cant post it yourself :)

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on behalf of @thin bramble
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8bbyRk

System Builder

warped moat Apr 28, 2020, 2:28 PM

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It’s the same except for the mobo

latent storm Apr 28, 2020, 2:28 PM

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you could definitely rearrange some things and fit a 2070 super in there

warped moat Apr 28, 2020, 2:29 PM

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If you don’t plan on streaming you could put in a 5700xt for about the same price

thin bramble Apr 28, 2020, 2:29 PM

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btw the price came out to nearly exactly 1200 with tax

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 2:29 PM

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@thin bramble the same as before is still true

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let me just modify it a bit, and you can decide for yourself

thin bramble Apr 28, 2020, 2:29 PM

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mkay

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btw this is an upgrade from my Gigabyte P57Xv7 that is slowly kicking the bucket

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lol

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had to get a laptop due to living circumstances

latent storm Apr 28, 2020, 2:32 PM

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this is what i came up with

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HKzpJb

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and it’s ~$200 less or something

little osprey Apr 28, 2020, 2:33 PM

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Would a ryzen 7 3700 and a rtx 2070 super be a better pairing than a ryzen 5 3600 for the money or would i just be better off with the 3600??

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 2:33 PM

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it is "less" because the mainboard is Out of Stock

latent storm Apr 28, 2020, 2:33 PM

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oh really

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i didn’t notice lmao

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 2:33 PM

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please look at the list you linked

warped moat Apr 28, 2020, 2:33 PM

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3600 with a 2070s will be just fine

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 2:33 PM

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@thin bramble https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JDPvCL

System Builder

little osprey Apr 28, 2020, 2:34 PM

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i also want to stream on the side just to mention

latent storm Apr 28, 2020, 2:34 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NX4PL2

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foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 2:34 PM

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case adjusted down to the m-atx version of the ATX choice

latent storm Apr 28, 2020, 2:34 PM

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that one isn’t

warped moat Apr 28, 2020, 2:34 PM

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The gpu should handle streaming encoding just fine so it won’t be a problem

little osprey Apr 28, 2020, 2:34 PM

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alrighty then

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ty

latent storm Apr 28, 2020, 2:35 PM

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i’ve heard word around town that gigabyte doesn’t make good cards but idk if that’s true

thin bramble Apr 28, 2020, 2:35 PM

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oh btw I did get the LPX Vengeances for 74 bucks on newegg, as opposed to the corsairs

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 2:35 PM

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@thin bramble if they are still in the box, return them, imo

warped moat Apr 28, 2020, 2:35 PM

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Gigabyte makes fine cards

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 2:36 PM

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@latent storm spread out your reading sources :)

thin bramble Apr 28, 2020, 2:37 PM

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I ordered them late last night, I can still cancel they haven't shipped

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 2:37 PM

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there isnt a big difference between the two sets (of ram), but if you are building new anyway

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and the budget is not being forced by choosing the ripjaws ... :)

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@marble shuttle did you see the earlier question?

marble shuttle Apr 28, 2020, 2:40 PM

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@foggy hazel, I have tried every combination and it will only work in single channel

thin bramble Apr 28, 2020, 2:41 PM

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So I can't see the reason to get a 2070 in all honesty. Graphic fidelity is pretty much at it's highest point barring some major breakthrough, and personally I'm using a 1080p 60hz monitor so 4k/120hz isn't an issue, nor is VR. the 2060 will run everything I play at 120 or well above

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 2:41 PM

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@marble shuttle okay, and it doesnt matter which of the two sticks?

thin bramble Apr 28, 2020, 2:41 PM

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stat checks on userbenchmarks as a reference

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 2:42 PM

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as in, are you 100% certain that one of the sticks isnt dead?

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@thin bramble scaling.

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@thin bramble and keep in mind, you are the one that said you wanted to keep the machine for a while :)

thin bramble Apr 28, 2020, 2:43 PM

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yes I know

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I appreciate the feedback I'm looking over things

marble shuttle Apr 28, 2020, 2:43 PM

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@foggy hazel, both sticks work by themselves but not together, this is my second set so I doubt I have another dud

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 2:44 PM

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@marble shuttle you going to be around for a bit?

thin bramble Apr 28, 2020, 2:44 PM

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I've been building PCs for myself and others for 15+ years, I've just been out of the game for a bit. I think the last time I built something was when 980 Ti was the top tier lol

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 2:45 PM

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because i would love to just finish up on Archzinno's build, and then dig into yours @marble shuttle

thin bramble Apr 28, 2020, 2:45 PM

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I'm good Naed you do your thing

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 2:45 PM

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nah, its more akin to giving you some homework :)

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so you can make a more informed decision yourself :)

thin bramble Apr 28, 2020, 2:45 PM

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Also Imploded sounds like he's got a dead channel

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 2:46 PM

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i have zero investment in what clients choose for parts (and yes, i do this for a living in the real world too)

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so, having clients make their own informed decision is quite high on my list of priorities :)

thin bramble Apr 28, 2020, 2:47 PM

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Also make sure you check your mobos manual and make sure you're putting them in the correct configuration, sometimes we think left to right logically when it is the other way around.

@foggy hazel oh, I know what you mean, I was a professional programmer for a while. I'm a chef now haha

marble shuttle Apr 28, 2020, 2:47 PM

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@foggy hazel, Yes I'll be around, just gonna be working

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 2:47 PM

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@marble shuttle sweet, i will grab you a bit later then :)

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so, Archzinno, lets start with talking about ssd speeds

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this might not sound fancy, but for gaming, all you are going to notice is "do i have a ssd or do i have a hdd"

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thats it

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the nvme part? useless

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the gazilion megabytes/sec? useless

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sure, it looks nice

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but you are not going to see a benefit you actually notice while gaming

thin bramble Apr 28, 2020, 2:49 PM

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I have an SSD now, in all honesty there is a difference between mine and my friends with sam evos load times. Also boot time is significantly faster, not that I'm constantly rebooting

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 2:50 PM

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yes, because your friend most likely has something that should be labeled as a hdd

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the storage industry has come a long way

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it used to be that samsung was leaps and bounds faster/better

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now? they are just leaps and bounds more expensive

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we are currently, so far into the "good enough" area of performance, that we spend time complaining about benchmark results

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as in, synthethic benchmark results

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IF we had this talk about a workstation, as in, not a hobby workstation, but an actual workstation, i would be saying a bunch of things in a VERY different way

thin bramble Apr 28, 2020, 2:53 PM

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lol

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 2:53 PM

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but, the budget would also not the what it is

thin bramble Apr 28, 2020, 2:53 PM

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most definitely

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 2:53 PM

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it basically boils down to "are you going to notice the actual difference?"

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my stance is no.

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you could consider this: a 1tb crucial p1 drive is 110 usd iirc

thin bramble Apr 28, 2020, 2:54 PM

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hmm

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 2:54 PM

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a doubling in space is imo, much more usefull for you as a user

thin bramble Apr 28, 2020, 2:55 PM

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lemme check out prices on 1tb

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 2:55 PM

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vs having a system that might, once in a blue moon, boots/loads something 10 ms faster

boreal pike Apr 28, 2020, 2:55 PM

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Is a GTX 1650 better or worst than a and ryzeb 7 3700 X

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 2:55 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/pxKcCJ/crucial-p1-1tb-m2-2280-solid-state-drive-ct1000p1ssd8 <- it has gone up a bit

Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive

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because of stock

thin bramble Apr 28, 2020, 2:56 PM

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cause that's actually a pretty big sticking point, having more things on my SSD, because I have some storage drives I keep other things on that I can throw in, you know the good ole 5600 RPM hdds

boreal pike Apr 28, 2020, 2:56 PM

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Amd ryzen 3700x*

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 2:56 PM

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aye aye Archz

thin bramble Apr 28, 2020, 2:56 PM

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Thanks for the thoughts Naed I'll leave you be, gonna do some looking into things and play some more Valorant

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 2:56 PM

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@boreal pike your question does not make logical sense: One is a CPU, the other is a GPU

boreal pike Apr 28, 2020, 2:57 PM

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Ok NVM

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I am not good with this pc stuff

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 2:57 PM

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@thin bramble you are very welcome. also, do look into upscaling/downscaling in regards to the GPU

thin bramble Apr 28, 2020, 2:58 PM

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mmhm

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 2:58 PM

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rendering a game at a higher resolution and then scaling down, looks really really nice

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just saying

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:)

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and i am always open for talking about tech, so feel free to ask :)

thin bramble Apr 28, 2020, 2:58 PM

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yeah I know I used to do that a long time ago before 4k with an SLI build and SGSSAA

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 2:59 PM

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aye, and a lot of games have a dropdown for it nowadays

thin bramble Apr 28, 2020, 2:59 PM

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but now it's one of those "can you tell the difference" things

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 2:59 PM

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and that is not going to go away

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also, side note: after this upgrade. Would it be completely unthinkable, that the monitor is the next thing that gets upgraded?

thin bramble Apr 28, 2020, 3:00 PM

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It's not, but it also is not a priority, nor is it likely to happen before I get a new headset

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 3:00 PM

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(just trying to make you consider/think here, not trying to force your hand)

thin bramble Apr 28, 2020, 3:00 PM

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nah I hear ya

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You would laugh at my current microphone/headset setup, cause MY G533 mic is dying, so I'm using the boom from my kingston hyper x clouds in a usb dongle taped to the back of my monitor and hanging over

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 3:01 PM

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considering i absolutely loathe gamer headsets ... yes, i would :)

thin bramble Apr 28, 2020, 3:02 PM

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I'd love to get a seinhauser

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 3:02 PM

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sennheiser

sullen spoke Apr 28, 2020, 3:02 PM

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sennheiser best

thin bramble Apr 28, 2020, 3:02 PM

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hey I'm blue, dabadebadeba

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 3:02 PM

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:)

thin bramble Apr 28, 2020, 3:02 PM

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yeah them

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 3:02 PM

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and i am personally a fan of the soundstage in beyerdynamics products

sullen spoke Apr 28, 2020, 3:02 PM

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for headset I like pc37x, I use the hd6xx

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 3:03 PM

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especially the 990's

sullen spoke Apr 28, 2020, 3:03 PM

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beyerdynamics is also really nice

thin bramble Apr 28, 2020, 3:03 PM

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I was looking at these ~100 sennheiser but they were BT and that doesn't really jive with gaming, there is latency issues I've noticed

sullen spoke Apr 28, 2020, 3:03 PM

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pc37x is 100 last i checked

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shipping could take a while tho

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 3:04 PM

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https://www.amazon.com/beyerdynamic-Over-Ear-Studio-Headphones-construction/dp/B0011UB9CQ <- mine

sullen spoke Apr 28, 2020, 3:04 PM

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ye those nice headphones

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 3:04 PM

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for their price, and IF you like open cans, they are silly nice

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but as every time we talk cans, i strongly recommend that people actually try on and have a good long listen on any they are considering

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because it is very much a personal preference

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AKG <- there is just something in their soundstage that bugs the living daylights out of me

thin bramble Apr 28, 2020, 3:05 PM

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I don't want wired though, I know I know, I usualyl prefer everything wired myself, but headphones are different for me

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 3:05 PM

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that doesnt mean they dont make lovely cans

sullen spoke Apr 28, 2020, 3:06 PM

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with headphones it is best to get a listen in person. in the audio market much is very subjective to your own ears

thin bramble Apr 28, 2020, 3:06 PM

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true and I have stupid bad tinnitus from flight lines and server rooms lol

sullen spoke Apr 28, 2020, 3:06 PM

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it is hard to find good wireless headphones and can be expensive because they need a dac/amp built in

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 3:06 PM

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i have thankfully been enforcing earplug use since back in the 90's

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so i have skipped over the tinnitus

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so far at least

sullen spoke Apr 28, 2020, 3:07 PM

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with wireless i'd avoid bluetooth, all that i've tried have latency issues

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 3:07 PM

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there is that one set (wireless ones) that are looking very very tempting, but they are not cheap

sullen spoke Apr 28, 2020, 3:08 PM

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the thx panda's look nice

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 3:08 PM

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aye, those are the ones

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but yeah, not cheap

sullen spoke Apr 28, 2020, 3:08 PM

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I think they are like 400

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lol

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 3:08 PM

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aye, the pre-order is 400

sullen spoke Apr 28, 2020, 3:09 PM

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maybe one day when I have money I get them as travel headphones

latent storm Apr 28, 2020, 3:10 PM

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a gigabyte rx 5600xt is going to be one of newegg’s “shell shockers” tomorrow if anyone’s interested

slate ice Apr 28, 2020, 3:16 PM

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@latent storm nice.

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I'm building a Threadripper video editing PC and need some RAM recomendations. I have a $200 budget.

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 3:21 PM

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look at the QVL for the board you are using

thin bramble Apr 28, 2020, 3:23 PM

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hey @foggy hazel, what about the intel 660p Series M.2 instead of the Crucial P1

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 3:24 PM

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personally not a fan

thin bramble Apr 28, 2020, 3:24 PM

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it's got great and abundant reviews

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on multiple sites

stoic island Apr 28, 2020, 3:24 PM

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Actually spec wise, they're similar

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thought p1 was tlc but it's qlc

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 3:24 PM

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aye, spec wise they are similar, hence why i said, personally

thin bramble Apr 28, 2020, 3:25 PM

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just the P1s are like, on back order everywhere lol

stoic island Apr 28, 2020, 3:25 PM

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Same controller config

slate ice Apr 28, 2020, 3:25 PM

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@foggy hazel I wish there was a way to import the QVL into pcpartpicker and find the best deal...

stoic island Apr 28, 2020, 3:25 PM

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It's actually the exact same controller lol

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SM2263

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 3:26 PM

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@thin bramble https://www.newegg.com/crucial-p1-1tb/p/N82E16820156199

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ah, gah, nvm :) its backordered now too

stoic island Apr 28, 2020, 3:26 PM

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damn 140$

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might as well get an a80 at that price xD

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 3:26 PM

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that newegg link gives you 140 @stoic island ?

thin bramble Apr 28, 2020, 3:27 PM

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yeah for ones from other sellers that are in stock

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it was doing that for me too, but the P1 from newegg is 119

stoic island Apr 28, 2020, 3:27 PM

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Yea

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 3:27 PM

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the moment you move up in that range, a80 is more sensible

stoic island Apr 28, 2020, 3:28 PM

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shows 140 at the top

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foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 3:28 PM

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aye, for the in stock one

stoic island Apr 28, 2020, 3:28 PM

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Right.

thin bramble Apr 28, 2020, 3:29 PM

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ah snip tool, found out recently about win+shift+s

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game changer

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 3:29 PM

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:)

sudden turret Apr 28, 2020, 3:29 PM

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lol

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 3:29 PM

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you are still to blame for the tea Box

sudden turret Apr 28, 2020, 3:29 PM

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taskbar it 🙂

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stoic island Apr 28, 2020, 3:30 PM

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oh is that the sniping tool?

thin bramble Apr 28, 2020, 3:30 PM

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nah I like my shortcut keys

stoic island Apr 28, 2020, 3:30 PM

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I liek ma prnt.sc

thin bramble Apr 28, 2020, 3:30 PM

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I'm old school, like linux term old school

celest horizon Apr 28, 2020, 3:30 PM

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KermitVader ShareX

sudden turret Apr 28, 2020, 3:30 PM

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whoX

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mX LinuX

sullen spoke Apr 28, 2020, 3:31 PM

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snipping tool sucks

sudden turret Apr 28, 2020, 3:31 PM

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you suck

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shutupo

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-o

stoic island Apr 28, 2020, 3:31 PM

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prnt.sc ftw

sullen spoke Apr 28, 2020, 3:31 PM

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ShareX is best

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https://i.imgur.com/58yMBkJ.png

Imgur

celest horizon Apr 28, 2020, 3:31 PM

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casuals

stoic island Apr 28, 2020, 3:31 PM

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I use a camera mounted on my monitor

celest horizon Apr 28, 2020, 3:31 PM

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Sharex best

sullen spoke Apr 28, 2020, 3:31 PM

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lol

thin bramble Apr 28, 2020, 3:31 PM

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btw earlier just for the hell of it, I had Windows WSL running Ubuntu running Wine running Win10 running VirtualBox Fedora

celest horizon Apr 28, 2020, 3:32 PM

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oops wrong order

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

sullen spoke Apr 28, 2020, 3:32 PM

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ROFLEgg

thin bramble Apr 28, 2020, 3:32 PM

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wait how did you gif omg

sullen spoke Apr 28, 2020, 3:32 PM

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shareX

thin bramble Apr 28, 2020, 3:32 PM

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is that sharex

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heckin

stoic island Apr 28, 2020, 3:32 PM

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https://prnt.sc/s7gzlw

Lightshot

Screenshot

Captured with Lightshot

sullen spoke Apr 28, 2020, 3:32 PM

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https://i.imgur.com/VsSRCQw.png

Imgur

stoic island Apr 28, 2020, 3:32 PM

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ya it seems nice

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but if I want a screen video

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nvidia experience time

sullen spoke Apr 28, 2020, 3:34 PM

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snipping tool peasant cannot beat sharex

celest horizon Apr 28, 2020, 3:34 PM

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I still like windows shift s sometimes, but sharex+imgur/gify pretty great

stoic island Apr 28, 2020, 3:34 PM

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sudden turret Apr 28, 2020, 3:34 PM

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😮

sullen spoke Apr 28, 2020, 3:34 PM

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ok Mr1

celest horizon Apr 28, 2020, 3:34 PM

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#justcomcastthings

sudden turret Apr 28, 2020, 3:35 PM

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lol

stoic island Apr 28, 2020, 3:35 PM

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sullen spoke Apr 28, 2020, 3:35 PM

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no IPv6 for you

celest horizon Apr 28, 2020, 3:35 PM

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I'm just using that to test ssh into the mc server

sudden turret Apr 28, 2020, 3:35 PM

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He probably has ipv8

celest horizon Apr 28, 2020, 3:35 PM

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so zack can do stuff

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I setup centos on the 7700k machine

sudden turret Apr 28, 2020, 3:35 PM

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mister I have two internets.

celest horizon Apr 28, 2020, 3:35 PM

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Both ipv4 🙂

sudden turret Apr 28, 2020, 3:35 PM

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like I said

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ipv8

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brainlet

celest horizon Apr 28, 2020, 3:36 PM

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ObamaLaugh

stoic island Apr 28, 2020, 3:36 PM

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ipv9

sullen spoke Apr 28, 2020, 3:36 PM

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ipv10

stoic island Apr 28, 2020, 3:36 PM

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pi v3.14

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15926

wary tundra Apr 28, 2020, 4:23 PM

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you can send it here @tidal vault

little osprey Apr 28, 2020, 4:25 PM

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Any Techies alive?

sullen spoke Apr 28, 2020, 4:26 PM

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you can ask your question and someone will probably pop in

little osprey Apr 28, 2020, 4:26 PM

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I need some help with updating my BIOs so I can stop getting these memory blue screen errors when I play games

lofty sequoia Apr 28, 2020, 4:27 PM

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@stoic island you got a second?

stoic island Apr 28, 2020, 4:28 PM

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sure

sullen spoke Apr 28, 2020, 4:28 PM

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are you sure the bsod's are related to the bios?

little osprey Apr 28, 2020, 4:28 PM

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Nope its just something that subjested that could help

sullen spoke Apr 28, 2020, 4:29 PM

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do you know the stop codes from bsod?

little osprey Apr 28, 2020, 4:29 PM

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I ran a memory dianogtics test is that what you are asking for?

lofty sequoia Apr 28, 2020, 4:30 PM

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So I bought a enermax 650 gold for my pc but I cannot start my pc and I was told to look about a 4+4 pin cpu +12V in split mode, but I never got one in my box for my PSU

sullen spoke Apr 28, 2020, 4:30 PM

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there is a stop code that comes up when you get blue screen of death

lofty sequoia Apr 28, 2020, 4:30 PM

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My motherboard will light up but I cannot start my pc when everything is plugged in

stoic island Apr 28, 2020, 4:31 PM

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wtf is a 4+4pin cpu in split mode?

little osprey Apr 28, 2020, 4:31 PM

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No I never took a pic of it, Every time is a memery management error

stoic island Apr 28, 2020, 4:31 PM

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anyways you did plug in a cable into the cpu 8 pin correct?

lofty sequoia Apr 28, 2020, 4:31 PM

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Yes

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And the 24 pin

little osprey Apr 28, 2020, 4:31 PM

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Only when Im playing games it happens when I watch utube it doesnt

stoic island Apr 28, 2020, 4:31 PM

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I seriously have no idea what "split mode" is

sullen spoke Apr 28, 2020, 4:31 PM

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ok

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 4:31 PM

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"split mode" <- most likely means "split cable"

stoic island Apr 28, 2020, 4:32 PM

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and that means?

lofty sequoia Apr 28, 2020, 4:32 PM

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stoic island Apr 28, 2020, 4:32 PM

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.. why?

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like it's a 4x2 slot on the mobo

lofty sequoia Apr 28, 2020, 4:32 PM

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An example

stoic island Apr 28, 2020, 4:32 PM

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theres no need for split

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it makes no difference afaik

lofty sequoia Apr 28, 2020, 4:33 PM

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I have no clue that’s what my buddy is insisting rn

sullen spoke Apr 28, 2020, 4:33 PM

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@little osprey you can try reseating the ram and running memtest86 if you haven't already

stoic island Apr 28, 2020, 4:33 PM

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Maybe they mean plug in the extra 2x2?

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 4:33 PM

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@stoic island the reason it is there, is that some older boards only had 4 pin up there

stoic island Apr 28, 2020, 4:33 PM

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Ah.

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I assumed its for some mobo which has extra 2x2

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like the left part here

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foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 4:36 PM

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thats a newer "invention/need"

stoic island Apr 28, 2020, 4:36 PM

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anyways @lofty sequoia I assume you checked other power cables?

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and your issue is no display?

lofty sequoia Apr 28, 2020, 4:38 PM

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I’m double checking everything rn and have unplugged everything except the 24 pin rn

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So for my motherboard in the top left corner it’s a 8 pin

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And that’s the only other pin on it minus the 24 pin

stoic island Apr 28, 2020, 4:39 PM

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Alright, and did you plug in the cable that said CPU?

lofty sequoia Apr 28, 2020, 4:40 PM

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The cable that says cpu doesn’t properly align

stoic island Apr 28, 2020, 4:40 PM

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wdym

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picture please

lofty sequoia Apr 28, 2020, 4:41 PM

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Shape wise

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One moment

stoic island Apr 28, 2020, 4:41 PM

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show both ends of the cable too if possible

lofty sequoia Apr 28, 2020, 4:41 PM

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📎 image0.jpg

stoic island Apr 28, 2020, 4:42 PM

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And the cable?

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 4:42 PM

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that has the latch facing down

lofty sequoia Apr 28, 2020, 4:42 PM

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stoic island Apr 28, 2020, 4:43 PM

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Yea try clipping it in, with the latch facing down

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 4:43 PM

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the plug on the right (it looks like) is the one going into the mainboard

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STOP

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i am wrong about the latch it looks like

stoic island Apr 28, 2020, 4:44 PM

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for example these are the square shapes on the plug

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foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 4:44 PM

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shadows was playing tricks on my eyes

stoic island Apr 28, 2020, 4:44 PM

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these are the squares on the mobo

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sullen spoke Apr 28, 2020, 4:44 PM

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rectangle

lofty sequoia Apr 28, 2020, 4:44 PM

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The latch down fit like a glove

sullen spoke Apr 28, 2020, 4:44 PM

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lol naed

stoic island Apr 28, 2020, 4:44 PM

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lol

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 4:45 PM

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hm?

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thats weird

sullen spoke Apr 28, 2020, 4:45 PM

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ThinkingEgg

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 4:45 PM

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doesnt look like there is a latch there

stoic island Apr 28, 2020, 4:45 PM

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Make sure you're plugging the right end into the psu and the right end into the mobo

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 4:45 PM

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so, because you plug anything else in

stoic island Apr 28, 2020, 4:45 PM

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(aka, just check it plugs into psu)

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 4:45 PM

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please confirm the following

lofty sequoia Apr 28, 2020, 4:45 PM

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Double checking rn

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 4:45 PM

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Is there, or isnt there. a latch there :)

unkempt ibex Apr 28, 2020, 4:45 PM

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Which is better

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vhm8CL

System Builder

stoic island Apr 28, 2020, 4:45 PM

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(Naed, it should have a latch on both sides, one for psu, one for mobo)

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 4:46 PM

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we are specifically talking about the plug on the mainboard @stoic island

unkempt ibex Apr 28, 2020, 4:46 PM

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Or this https://pcpartpicker.com/user/synisstupid/saved/

Saved Part Lists

digital pecan Apr 28, 2020, 4:46 PM

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@unkempt ibex whats the cpy on the second one

sullen spoke Apr 28, 2020, 4:46 PM

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@unkempt ibex with that kind of budget I'd more recommend a amd apu

digital pecan Apr 28, 2020, 4:46 PM

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cpu*

lofty sequoia Apr 28, 2020, 4:46 PM

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No I think I might’ve been overthinking it and also played my eyes a bit because it definitely fits on the PSU and the motherboard I kept thinking “no it won’t fit since this is square round round square”

stoic island Apr 28, 2020, 4:47 PM

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Huh

unkempt ibex Apr 28, 2020, 4:47 PM

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@sullen spoke what

stoic island Apr 28, 2020, 4:47 PM

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It might be my eyes playing a trick on me but the 2 latches look different

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so my thought was, one end fits in the psu, one end doesn't.

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 4:47 PM

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they are different @stoic island

lofty sequoia Apr 28, 2020, 4:47 PM

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Yes the latches were diff

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 4:47 PM

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because one is a "split" cable latch, and the other is a "fixed" cable one

unkempt ibex Apr 28, 2020, 4:48 PM

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@digital pecan I already have 2080 and i7 8700

sullen spoke Apr 28, 2020, 4:48 PM

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oh

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 4:48 PM

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basically, slim vs wide latch @stoic island

stoic island Apr 28, 2020, 4:48 PM

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I was just thinking usually theres like a cutout into the PSU, so it makes it easy to tell which end is which once you plug an end in

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foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 4:48 PM

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aye, that is the "slim" latch

sullen spoke Apr 28, 2020, 4:49 PM

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@unkempt ibex nvm saw it wrong, looks like it is mostly just personal preference then

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 4:49 PM

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but, always makes logical sense (when i am not handling the cables myself) to have people go through the motions of checking

stoic island Apr 28, 2020, 4:49 PM

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@unkempt ibex so you're considering the difference in motherboard, ram, and PSU?

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 4:49 PM

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because you never know what kind of hi-jinks they might be doing

stoic island Apr 28, 2020, 4:49 PM

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Ah

sullen spoke Apr 28, 2020, 4:50 PM

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jeez I never realized how expensive psus got

unkempt ibex Apr 28, 2020, 4:50 PM

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Yeah

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 4:50 PM

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its the whole "never expect a user to not short circuit something if there is some bonkers way they can do it" thing

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and @lofty sequoia that is not a dig on you. It is just experience in general.

unkempt ibex Apr 28, 2020, 4:51 PM

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well yeah there’s a 750w going for 100 I’ll just do that @sullen spoke

stoic island Apr 28, 2020, 4:51 PM

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Aegis ram is cheaper for same performance, do that. The case is completely personal preference, the PSU is whichever is cheaper between the two. cooler is your preference, same thing, one is black, one is not. @unkempt ibex

lofty sequoia Apr 28, 2020, 4:51 PM

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No I understand, this is my first pc build aside from classes taking a pc apart and putting it exactly back to how it was

sullen spoke Apr 28, 2020, 4:51 PM

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yeah, i don't know much about the small details of psus but it looks fine

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 4:52 PM

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CXM is still a worse choice vs the Seasonic PX that we talked about yesterday @unkempt ibex

lofty sequoia Apr 28, 2020, 4:52 PM

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I’ve seen some of my colleagues kill a few motherboard plugging stuff into the wrong areas

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 4:52 PM

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aye

sullen spoke Apr 28, 2020, 4:52 PM

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sounds fun

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 4:52 PM

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hence the "better ask twice or thrice " attitude i have about it

lofty sequoia Apr 28, 2020, 4:53 PM

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^

stoic island Apr 28, 2020, 4:53 PM

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aye

unkempt ibex Apr 28, 2020, 4:53 PM

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Ok

stoic island Apr 28, 2020, 4:53 PM

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Well, I need to remember to ask people to turn off the computer

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just in case

unkempt ibex Apr 28, 2020, 4:53 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vhm8CL

System Builder

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Someone said something about the ram I’m confused

sullen spoke Apr 28, 2020, 4:54 PM

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3200 cl16 is fine

unkempt ibex Apr 28, 2020, 4:55 PM

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Is that what I have lmao

lofty sequoia Apr 28, 2020, 4:55 PM

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Success

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We have a built pc

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 4:55 PM

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well done @lofty sequoia

sullen spoke Apr 28, 2020, 4:56 PM

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👏

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and yes the ram kit there is 3200mhz cl16

stoic island Apr 28, 2020, 4:56 PM

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Nice

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I said the aegis is fine

lofty sequoia Apr 28, 2020, 4:56 PM

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Thanks again guys!

tidal vault Apr 28, 2020, 4:57 PM

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can I get opinions on this build
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tVKJGc meant for streaming/gaming

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sullen spoke Apr 28, 2020, 4:57 PM

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aegis isn't as fancy as trident z royal but it gets the job done xD

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do you have another pc to use the capture card?

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or is it for consoles?

tidal vault Apr 28, 2020, 4:58 PM

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its for my console yea

sullen spoke Apr 28, 2020, 4:58 PM

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oh ok

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some people might complain about the airflow of the nzxt case

stoic island Apr 28, 2020, 4:59 PM

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I do >:D

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but other stuff first

sullen spoke Apr 28, 2020, 4:59 PM

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and there we go

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haha

tidal vault Apr 28, 2020, 5:00 PM

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yea i've heard about that but I'll see once I get it. love the look of it which is why I choose that one

sullen spoke Apr 28, 2020, 5:01 PM

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nzxt cases do look clean

tidal vault Apr 28, 2020, 5:01 PM

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exactly well hope it'll be fine since i'm not buying extra fans or coolers

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 5:02 PM

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@tidal vault can we agree that your list is 1287 usd?

tidal vault Apr 28, 2020, 5:03 PM

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from the base prices yea, but with all the shipping and taxes its more around 1550ish

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 5:03 PM

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that part is your trouble, but the listed price on pcpp is 1287 right?

tidal vault Apr 28, 2020, 5:04 PM

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mine says 1167.40

stoic island Apr 28, 2020, 5:04 PM

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(one part is missing prices)

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 5:04 PM

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your mainboard is not being counted

tidal vault Apr 28, 2020, 5:04 PM

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yea which I think it was 101.99

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with that added in, 1269.39

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 5:06 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dYFYtp

System Builder

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105 on the board, for the cheaper option

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thats your list, but with a force pulled price

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xTcyRk <- that is a suggestion for a slightly different take

System Builder

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which gives you faster cpu, faster ram, better mainboard. equal ssd. for less money

tidal vault Apr 28, 2020, 5:09 PM

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was going to upgrade CPU but the MoBo that I've been looking at would have to be updated prior, so i'm stuck with it just in case

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 5:10 PM

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the warning you see at the top is 99.99% not relevant for that board

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Because it has been THAT long since the default bios on those boards started supporting the 3rd gen cpus

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getting close to a year now

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so, unless you are somehow so unlucky, you get stock that is from before then

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then you dont have anything to worry about

tidal vault Apr 28, 2020, 5:11 PM

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this is my first build, can't be too careful and completely new to this

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 5:11 PM

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make sense?

tidal vault Apr 28, 2020, 5:11 PM

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keep that in mind when upgrading then

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 5:12 PM

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elaborate

tidal vault Apr 28, 2020, 5:12 PM

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in?

stoic island Apr 28, 2020, 5:12 PM

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keep that in mind when upgrading then
@tidal vault
I don't see what you're saying, and I don't think Naed understands either.

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 5:13 PM

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nope

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:)

tidal vault Apr 28, 2020, 5:13 PM

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CPU and Motherboard and you guys got me confused too

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 5:13 PM

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okay, lets start from the beginning then

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and please remember, there are no stupid questions, only silly answers

tidal vault Apr 28, 2020, 5:15 PM

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okay so you're were telling me that that warning for [Needs to be Updated for New CPU] is pretty much irrelevant now right?

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 5:15 PM

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correct

tidal vault Apr 28, 2020, 5:17 PM

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Okay going to keep that in mind if I ever upgrade MoBo or CPU. Other than that what are the things I need to other than the parts to start a build?

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 5:18 PM

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you are missing the point, i think

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the list i put in there, is a faster cpu, for basically the same price

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and all the parts added together, means you get a faster machine, for less money

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when compared to your current list

tidal vault Apr 28, 2020, 5:19 PM

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telling me to switch it out right?

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 5:20 PM

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if you want more for less, yes.

wary tundra Apr 28, 2020, 5:23 PM

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@urban verge You have such a nice build I hate it, It makes me want to water cool my ryzen 5 3600 and 5700xt but theres no point. I had to come to build chat to say that because box is lurking.

unkempt ibex Apr 28, 2020, 5:23 PM

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@foggy hazel just wondering is this your job lmao

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 5:24 PM

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@unkempt ibex in my normal life, its one of my jobs

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and no, i dont work for newegg or anything, heck, i am not even on the same continent

unkempt ibex Apr 28, 2020, 5:24 PM

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Ah

tidal vault Apr 28, 2020, 5:25 PM

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okay switched, hopefully i'm not that 99.99% that'll get a stock MoBo

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 5:25 PM

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hopefully not

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so, link your build again?

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because then we can talk about the next thing :)

tidal vault Apr 28, 2020, 5:25 PM

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still scared but we'll see https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gs49Pn

System Builder

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 5:26 PM

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yeah, so lets talk SSD's

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do you want to pay 99.99 or 68.98 for the same experience?

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also, your link only changed the CPU

tidal vault Apr 28, 2020, 5:27 PM

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was going for a crucial at first, went for a samsung from reviews and recongnizable brand

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 5:28 PM

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it is 100% your choice. You are however paying about 30 usd for a samsung sticker

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you will not notice a lick of difference

sullen spoke Apr 28, 2020, 5:28 PM

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I like stickers

tidal vault Apr 28, 2020, 5:32 PM

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some parts i'm unclear on. other than reviews from here and there. and of course personnel choice is something I'm keeping with a few items

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 5:32 PM

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personal choice is all fine and dandy

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please make certain you make it from a basis of understanding

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instead of a standing of "this sounds complicated, let me just take whatever google tells me"

tidal vault Apr 28, 2020, 5:35 PM

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Pretty sure I have a basis of it atleast

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Not that inexperinced in this field

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 5:41 PM

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as mentioned, there are no stupid questions, only silly answers

tidal vault Apr 28, 2020, 5:43 PM

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I will mention I did already buy the parts which is why I was a bit hesistant when it came to the CPU which I switch and bought already, going to have to return the other one once it arrives right away

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 5:44 PM

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that detail (that you already purchased the parts), would have had this conversation go very differently

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because i could have summed it up with the following

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return the mainboard + cpu + ram + ssd

unkempt ibex Apr 28, 2020, 5:44 PM

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My PCs performance is so bad rn holy

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 5:45 PM

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because there is no logical reason (that you have mentioned so far) that you wouldnt want a faster machine for less money @tidal vault :)

tidal vault Apr 28, 2020, 5:45 PM

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Okay CPU done, need to tell me what I can switch for the MoBo Ram and the SSD

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 5:46 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/y3prxr/asus-tuf-b450m-pro-gaming-micro-atx-am4-motherboard-tuf-b450m-pro-gaming

Asus TUF B450M-PRO GAMING Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/jBZzK8/gskill-ripjaws-v-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-f4-3600c16d-16gvkc

G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/XML48d/silicon-power-a80-512-gb-m2-2280-solid-state-drive-sp512gbp34a80m28

Silicon Power A80 512 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive

little osprey Apr 28, 2020, 5:48 PM

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That psu is kinda intense for a turing card

tidal vault Apr 28, 2020, 5:49 PM

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The Asus Board was going to be my first choice, but was lacking in the USB department

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 5:52 PM

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@tidal vault what is lacking? and in which way?

tidal vault Apr 28, 2020, 5:53 PM

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would want a few more USB ports, since my current pc has most of them used at the moment

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 5:53 PM

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what you are seeing here is the MSI backplane

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https://asset.msi.com/resize/image/global/product/product_10_20190716132640_5d2d6010276ee.png62405b38c58fe0f07fcef2367d8a9ba1/1024.png

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that is the board you had chosen

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https://www.asus.com/media/global/gallery/vu3XyBGH5jtAGwCU_setting_000_1_90_end_500.png <- this is the board i had on the list

tidal vault Apr 28, 2020, 5:55 PM

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the usb c ports throws me off everytime

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 5:55 PM

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they both offer the exact same amount of usb :)

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its just question of form factor

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and something to keep in mind with usb c, (and more importantly, the actual protocol behind it) it is PLENTY fast for just having a hub connected

tidal vault Apr 28, 2020, 5:57 PM

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haven't thought about a usb c hub okay then switching

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 5:58 PM

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@tidal vault would all of this (this topic in general) be easier for you to get your head around if we took a voice chat about it?

tidal vault Apr 28, 2020, 5:59 PM

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nah like taking info from text and its much easier on my brain than proabably arguing about someting that I want to keep

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 5:59 PM

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wanted to offer it, in case you had it the other way around

tidal vault Apr 28, 2020, 6:01 PM

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okay so i've switched all that parts that you recommended

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 6:01 PM

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link the list again?

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(not that i dont trust you, but it marks the points where we change the topic)

tidal vault Apr 28, 2020, 6:03 PM

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give me moment need to updated it

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 6:03 PM

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no rush :)

tidal vault Apr 28, 2020, 6:04 PM

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okay this should be the update list https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xTcyRk

System Builder

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 6:04 PM

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that looks right

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now

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lets have a chat about your HDD

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is there any special reason for the 6 tb drive?

tidal vault Apr 28, 2020, 6:06 PM

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well other than games, was going to keep raw videos on it, since been trying out the whole content creation thing for a decade now and I always have to delete the footage for space with my current setup

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so 6tb for extra insurance on that

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 6:07 PM

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depending on how you look at things

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its not actually extra insurance as such

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its still in the same location as the main machine

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there is no redundancy

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my point being: please dont convince yourself that it is a proper backup of your content

tidal vault Apr 28, 2020, 6:10 PM

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Not proper, but atleast a place where it should be and a start for keeping

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 6:11 PM

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its a start.

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But, IF you only purpose of the mechanical storage is .. storage

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why not go with something that is a bit more reasonably priced?

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4tb seems to be around 100-ish usd at the moment

tidal vault Apr 28, 2020, 6:35 PM

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Keeping the HDD, puts me at ease knowing that I can keep it than buying more externals. is there other ways to use storage?

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 6:35 PM

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its all about what makes you sleep well at night

tidal vault Apr 28, 2020, 6:36 PM

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exactly anything else that you would have changed or just a few tips?

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 6:36 PM

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nope, the PSU is just a question of availability really

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I would personally go with the Seasonic PX

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but that is a personal preference really

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and normally, that amount of wattage would be overkill, but again, availability (and prices right now) makes it a decent enough choice

tidal vault Apr 28, 2020, 6:39 PM

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alright thanks can't wait to have all the parts and build it. should have everything around May 10 or 14

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 6:39 PM

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best of luck @tidal vault :)

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and you are very welcome

tidal vault Apr 28, 2020, 6:41 PM

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i'll probably hop on here to post pics of it or if something doesn't go well. see ya then

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 6:41 PM

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:)

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hopefully only to show the successfully built machine :)

marble shuttle Apr 28, 2020, 6:41 PM

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@foggy hazel, You got some time?

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 6:42 PM

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aye

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just finishing up dinner, so ask away @marble shuttle

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too full of food to run away

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ah yes @marble shuttle you were the one with the dual channel memory

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you got a mainboard model for me?

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sorry if i asked earlier too

marble shuttle Apr 28, 2020, 6:47 PM

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@foggy hazel, MSI MPG Gaming Pro Carbon AC

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On my second one, and my second set of ram

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 6:48 PM

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intel machine?

marble shuttle Apr 28, 2020, 6:48 PM

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Yes, i7-9700k

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@foggy hazel, here's the full list

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/T4jtRk

System Builder

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After trying so many things I'm sure it cant be the mobo or the ram

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 6:50 PM

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just to make certain, it is "that" specific set of ram you are using now?

marble shuttle Apr 28, 2020, 6:51 PM

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Yes, the royal set. Down to the model number, and I checked for compatibility on my motherboard website before buying

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 6:51 PM

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aye, and it is in the QVL?

exotic lichen Apr 28, 2020, 6:52 PM

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Do you guys think an ultrawide that is 100hz and is 350 dollars is worth it?

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34 incy

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Or a 30 inch 85 hz ultrawide for

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200

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 6:52 PM

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@exotic lichen please ask in #old-monitors-and-tv

exotic lichen Apr 28, 2020, 6:52 PM

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Ok

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My bad

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 6:52 PM

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nothing to be worried/sorry about :)

exotic lichen Apr 28, 2020, 6:52 PM

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Thx man

marble shuttle Apr 28, 2020, 6:53 PM

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@foggy hazel, yes it's in the QVL too

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 6:53 PM

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and again, just to verify. this is a completely new build right?

marble shuttle Apr 28, 2020, 6:54 PM

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Yes, never built a PC before and after years of watching Linus, BitWit, and Paul build PCs I wanted to build one myself

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 6:54 PM

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and then you stumbled into "this" kind of a problem

marble shuttle Apr 28, 2020, 6:57 PM

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Yes, I had the pc working fine with no problems on the first two days then the pc crashed out of nowhere with no BSOD. Then after turning it back on it boot looped about two times before fully turning on. It continued this for about three more days before it just would turn on before and kept boot looping. After that I tried just having one ram and it would work fine but still freeze about once per day. Then I decided to get some help on reddit and we came to the conclusion that I needed a different ram kit

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 6:57 PM

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and then that got changed, rinse and repeat

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motherboard got changed, rinse and repeat

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and now you are here?

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is that close enough @marble shuttle ?

marble shuttle Apr 28, 2020, 6:59 PM

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Yes, now at least it doesn't boot loop but it wont run my ram in dual channel

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 7:00 PM

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okay, first a couple of ground rules:

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there are no stupid questions, only silly answers

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i cannot read your mind, nor see what you see. So i will most likely ask about things that might seem weird. Just have patience please.

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and if you would rather we do this in a voice chat we can, it is entirely up to you

marble shuttle Apr 28, 2020, 7:02 PM

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I'm working all day today so I wont be able to do voice, but i am able to text just with a delay sometimes. Also if you need any links to videos or pictures i have posted some on imgur when I was trying to get help on reddit.

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 7:03 PM

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no rush, a lot of this is things you are going to be trying

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because you will be going through a regular troubleshooting process

buoyant flame Apr 28, 2020, 7:03 PM

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Aight so my friend is asking for my help for a 1500 dollar gaming / light streaming pc. I made him a list in pcpp. Anyone wanna give it a once over for me? And before you say it ik that ram kit is not a good choice 😂

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zzsjK4

System Builder

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psu and case are OOS atm but he's not looking to buy this month so i threw em in there

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 7:05 PM

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quick and dirty answer @buoyant flame : a80 ssd, Dont buy the HDD now (unless there is urgent need for it), Seasonic PX (actually in stock and decently priced), rest looks fine enough

buoyant flame Apr 28, 2020, 7:05 PM

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ok

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 7:05 PM

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@marble shuttle so, what is going to happen is this

buoyant flame Apr 28, 2020, 7:05 PM

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ty

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 7:06 PM

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everything, and i mean everything gets pulled out and you start from the absolute bare minimum in figuring out what works, and what doesnt work

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that means specifically for you: mainboard + cpu and nothing else

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no hdd, no ssd.

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just the mainboard + cpu.

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then ram

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because if ram actually works at that point, things get "fun"

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because then it becomes "which specific part or if you are really lucky, which combination of parts" makes things NOT work

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@buoyant flame as always, you are very welcome

buoyant flame Apr 28, 2020, 7:08 PM

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ik 🙂

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 7:09 PM

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and yes, i know, you might have been through "some" of this @marble shuttle

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difference is this: everything gets documented

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everything

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stick 1 has been in slot 1? check

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slot 2? check

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etc etc etc etc

cursive wharf Apr 28, 2020, 7:09 PM

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This is why hardware debugging is so fun

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 7:10 PM

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yes, it is menial as all heck, but its what makes technicians ... well... technicians

marble shuttle Apr 28, 2020, 7:10 PM

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@foggy hazel, I'm not able to do this at the moment because I followed the suggestions from two forums and sent my cpu back and will be receiving another one this week. But I can tell you about the first time I tried to run the system bare bones

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 7:10 PM

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@marble shuttle as mentioned, no rush :)

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its more so you know what "path" so to speak

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and yes, please do tell

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but, keep the following in mind: its not your current parts

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so it technically doesnt matter

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i hope that makes sense to you @marble shuttle ?

marble shuttle Apr 28, 2020, 7:11 PM

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@foggy hazel, Yes, I understand

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 7:13 PM

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sidenote: please check what bios your board has, when you get your CPU again.

marble shuttle Apr 28, 2020, 7:14 PM

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The first time I tried it with just cpu and mobo, it would just turn on the system and the ex debug lights would flicker between cpu and ram. Then after installing just one ram stick it would boot, after installing the second ram stick the led would flicker between cpu and ram. This happens with both sets of mobo and ram. Also after that it was suggested that I clear cmos and then update so I did but that just made my first set of ram not boot up with even one stick. So i sent it back and got a new set. Now I'm running the latest 1.7 on this board

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*EZ Debug

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 7:17 PM

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sorry to hear that you had to go through all the steps, because what you are saying above is a fairly strong indicator that the problem is the cpu

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BUT, it might not be the cpu itself, it might be the pressure from the cooler

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but, your replacement CPU should clear that up fairly quickly

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the following might seems like a bit of a trick question @marble shuttle

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how did you tighten the cooler down?

marble shuttle Apr 28, 2020, 7:21 PM

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@foggy hazel, I had also thought it might be uneven pressure so I unscrewed the cooler, then screwed it back on going back and forth to each screw making sure I am equally turning the screw and had a level on top of my cooler to make sure. I made sure it wasn't too tight and then tried to run both ram sticks in dual channel. I would then lessen pressure and try again till it booted but nothing

little osprey Apr 28, 2020, 7:22 PM

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Is Ryzen actually on par with Intel nowadays? Or is intel still king of the not setting peoples houses on fire?

sullen spoke Apr 28, 2020, 7:22 PM

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ryzen is on par in gaming but ahead in everything else pretty much

cursive wharf Apr 28, 2020, 7:23 PM

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Ryzen is better in terms for temps. Single core perf falls behind be like 1% - 3%, so not really noticable

sullen spoke Apr 28, 2020, 7:23 PM

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although some people have specific use cases for intel cpus

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 7:23 PM

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@little osprey long story short. https://www.anandtech.com/show/14605/the-and-ryzen-3700x-3900x-review-raising-the-bar

The AMD 3rd Gen Ryzen Deep Dive Review: 3700X and 3900X Raising The...

little osprey Apr 28, 2020, 7:23 PM

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So. for the price. Ryzen is a solid choice, great thanks I cant find intel anywhere and dont trust bestbuy to give me reviews

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 7:24 PM

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@marble shuttle the following is not going to be a much comfort to you, but i can see a couple of ways that things could turn out like that. Yes, it requires that you are unlucky, but that is just how things turn out at times.

potent prairie Apr 28, 2020, 7:25 PM

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The i9-9900ks is going on eBay for double retail. Bad time to buy CPUs, but ah well

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 7:25 PM

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@marble shuttle do you have a ETA on the replacement CPU?

marble shuttle Apr 28, 2020, 7:25 PM

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This Saturday

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 7:26 PM

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i would be quite interested in being around when you start assembling things again @marble shuttle

marble shuttle Apr 28, 2020, 7:28 PM

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@foggy hazel, is there any way that this could be a psu problem? I probably answered that trying to run the pc bare bones but I'm still wondering. I have 750w 80+ gold certified psu from thermaltake

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 7:29 PM

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in theory, it could be a PSU issue

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that is part of what going back to barebones helps answer

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and it is the "next" item that has to be changed, because everything else has changed

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(the above is said based on what we know right now)

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everything could change come saturday

marble shuttle Apr 28, 2020, 7:31 PM

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Alright, also im not sure if it's relevant but when I removed the CPU it had like two discolored pins on the bottom left

cursive wharf Apr 28, 2020, 7:33 PM

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@marble shuttle company, rating, and wattage don't have much to do with PSU quality. Actual model does. Tho, don't recall any terrible TT Gold PSUs at least off top of my head

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 7:33 PM

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me neither Hei

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@marble shuttle you dont know the exact pins by chance?

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or have a picture?

marble shuttle Apr 28, 2020, 7:34 PM

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I didn't take a picture but I do know the general area

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 7:34 PM

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general area = not good enough

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(this is not your fault, just that there are a bunch of the buggers back there)

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and they do different things

marble shuttle Apr 28, 2020, 7:35 PM

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📎 20200428_143507.jpg

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That circle is the area

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 7:36 PM

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but yes, generally, discoloured pins (when you mention it) doesnt sound good, BUT depending on what you actually "mean" when you say it, it could be either really serious, or nothing at all

cursive wharf Apr 28, 2020, 7:37 PM

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Ye. Can vouch for nothing at all sometimes. Have a 6700k with some discolorness on some pins, nothing as of yet issue wise.

marble shuttle Apr 28, 2020, 7:38 PM

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Alright, thank you guys. Any questions I can answer while I wait for the cpu?

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 7:38 PM

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i doubt it

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because it will only be extra things to remember for no benefit

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and you are very welcome, please give a shout when you have the CPU @marble shuttle

novel thistle Apr 28, 2020, 7:52 PM

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Would y’all mind telling me how a build I’m going to buy looks? I’m pretty new and am looking for any input on the matter I can

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 7:52 PM

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visually or part choice wise @novel thistle?

novel thistle Apr 28, 2020, 7:54 PM

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Parts choice

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I haven’t bought it yet but have a list of parts

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 7:54 PM

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absolutely :)

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you send the link to me as a dm, and i will post it for you

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the bot will eat your link, its our spam prevention :)

novel thistle Apr 28, 2020, 7:55 PM

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Alrighty

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 7:56 PM

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on behalf of @novel thistle
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xkzFyk

System Builder

novel thistle Apr 28, 2020, 7:57 PM

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Thanks!

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 7:57 PM

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np

potent prairie Apr 28, 2020, 7:57 PM

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I think the 1 tb SK Hynix gold SSD is a little cheaper on amazon than your choice

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 7:57 PM

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a couple of notes and suggestions

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a80 for the ssd instead, in the m.2 format

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and 3600 ram

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those two changes makes your list look like this https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GnWyRk @novel thistle

System Builder

novel thistle Apr 28, 2020, 8:01 PM

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Well that’s not bad at all, thanks for the advice! Is the difference between a SATA 6/gb and a m.2 noticeable?

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 8:01 PM

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its the same price

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for a more convenient form factor

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no cabling

potent prairie Apr 28, 2020, 8:01 PM

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Aren't nvme ones a good bit faster?

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 8:01 PM

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just 1 screw and it is installed into the mainboard

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@potent prairie notice what he asked :) "noticeable"

potent prairie Apr 28, 2020, 8:02 PM

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Yeah, that's fair 🙂

marble shuttle Apr 28, 2020, 8:02 PM

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@foggy hazel, Sorry to intervene, you can answer when you are able to. I want to purchase a backup PSU just in case that is the problem so I wouldn't have to wait another week for it to get here. What PSU would you reccomend? Also if it wasn't the problem I'll use it on the next build I have planned or I'll just return one.

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 8:03 PM

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@marble shuttle problem is availability really

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@novel thistle perhaps think about it like this: easier to install, faster in some corner cases. (this goes for both the ram and ssd upgrade) for no extra cost

novel thistle Apr 28, 2020, 8:06 PM

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I appreciate that and I’ll add those changes to my build. Side question, would having a 250-500GB SSD specifically for the OS and important programs be beneficial for the extra $50 or so?

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 8:07 PM

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its about as helpful as racing stripes :)

novel thistle Apr 28, 2020, 8:07 PM

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lol thanks

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 8:07 PM

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something i noticed, you might not be aware of this variant of your cooler

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/dMVG3C/noctua-nh-u12s-chromaxblack-55-cfm-cpu-cooler-nh-u12s-chromaxblack

Noctua NH-U12S chromax.black 55 CFM CPU Cooler

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(its a black version of the one on your list)

novel thistle Apr 28, 2020, 8:09 PM

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Tempting.......

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 8:09 PM

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also, generally i let people pick whatever case they want, but that is NOT a cheap case

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so, have you really thought that one through?

novel thistle Apr 28, 2020, 8:10 PM

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I like how big it is and the fully tempered glass side

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 8:10 PM

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(keep in mind, if you want a pink case with rainbow fans, i dont care one bit)

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it is your choice :)

novel thistle Apr 28, 2020, 8:11 PM

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Got any full tower cases to recommend? That one just stuck out to me for it’s sheer beauty but I wouldn’t mind hearing some alternatives

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 8:11 PM

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hm, i would recommend having a browse in the #build-pics channel

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because i am very much a boring case choice person

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no windows, no nothing

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comes from working with servers and such :)

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as long as it is silent and i am NOT constantly reminded that it is there. then i am happy as can be :)

novel thistle Apr 28, 2020, 8:13 PM

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Haha, well I appreciate all the help, googling can be intimidating with so many different opinions and specs that are hard to understand. Thanks for giving some solid advice

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 8:14 PM

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you are very welcome, and please remember, there are no stupid questions, only silly answers

simple stag Apr 28, 2020, 8:14 PM

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hi everyone - i have an issue with my freshly built pc

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basically, i was able to install everything with relative ease and i downloaded the free windows 10 copy from their official website. I was able to successfully boot up my computer, install windows, steam, etc.... now the issue is after trying to test out a few relatively easy games (CSGO, Team fortress) it plays for a little while then crashes - any idea what is going on here?

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 8:17 PM

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you got a part list?

simple stag Apr 28, 2020, 8:17 PM

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I downloaded NZXT tool and does not seem to be any crazy overheating but i could be wrong. I have ryzen 3600, Asrock 570 pro4, Corsair lpz 3600mhz, 1660 super

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sorry was still typing but there is the highlights ^^

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 8:17 PM

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what psu?

simple stag Apr 28, 2020, 8:17 PM

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stock cooler on CPU

wide sparrow Apr 28, 2020, 8:17 PM

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Wow

simple stag Apr 28, 2020, 8:17 PM

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EVGA 550w Gold

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@foggy hazel

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all brand new

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 8:18 PM

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you ever assembled a machine before?

simple stag Apr 28, 2020, 8:18 PM

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also - when it restarts on its own - the GPU and Boot LED's light up on MOBO til it restarts to boot page then disappears

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no this is my first but i was pretty careful to follow steps from Joey Delgado + part manuals

wide sparrow Apr 28, 2020, 8:19 PM

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That's good. Its suppose to do that on the MOBO

simple stag Apr 28, 2020, 8:19 PM

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should have clarified

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they light up Red

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 8:20 PM

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check your manual

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there is a section that deals with the debug leds

simple stag Apr 28, 2020, 8:23 PM

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all it says lol

📎 Screen_Shot_2020-04-28_at_3.22.35_PM.png

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which is so piss poor haha like duh there is an issue but does not tell you anything else

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 8:26 PM

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you might not like what it says, but it being there is very helpful

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have you plugged in the power cords on the GPU?

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@simple stag

simple stag Apr 28, 2020, 8:40 PM

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hahaha why does it say spooky im geeking

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yes GPU is getting power, RGB on card lights up, fans spinning , etc

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i plugged in all 8 pins

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 8:41 PM

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because i made a typo @simple stag :)

simple stag Apr 28, 2020, 8:43 PM

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i also tried just unplugging and replugging the cpu fan, gpu, case fans, etc

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not sure what to do next :/

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 8:50 PM

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pull things apart and start from the bare minimum

stoic island Apr 28, 2020, 8:55 PM

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Does it black screen on you or BSOD? because BSOD can give you information on what happened @simple stag

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 8:56 PM

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@stoic island i have something to show you in #cases-psu-and-cooling

simple stag Apr 28, 2020, 8:56 PM

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what is BSOD @stoic island

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 8:56 PM

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Blue Screen of Death

simple stag Apr 28, 2020, 8:57 PM

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ah ok

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no

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it just goes black briefly and then restarts

latent storm Apr 28, 2020, 8:59 PM

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is there any reason noctua fans are so expensive

stoic island Apr 28, 2020, 9:00 PM

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There is a noctua tax, and it's good.

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Noctua fans are Not good for price to performance

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pure performance wise, they work great

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but there are cheaper options, worse, but quite a bit cheaper.

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 9:16 PM

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@sudden solstice there is no set point it has to return

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it MIGHT return, but the retailers have no real reason to rush it

sudden solstice Apr 28, 2020, 9:17 PM

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?

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The prices ?

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 9:18 PM

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aye

sudden solstice Apr 28, 2020, 9:18 PM

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aye

potent prairie Apr 28, 2020, 9:18 PM

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If you buy used stuff you can still get some deals tho

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 9:19 PM

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whoever it was that tried to post a link, send it to me as a pm

sudden solstice Apr 28, 2020, 9:19 PM

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Wait does Newegg sell used stuff ? Sorry really new to this

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 9:19 PM

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the bot will keep on eating the link :)

potent prairie Apr 28, 2020, 9:19 PM

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IDK, but like eBay

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Or amazon for that matter

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 9:20 PM

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just be aware that warranty might be quite ...weird .. with second hand marketplaces

potent prairie Apr 28, 2020, 9:21 PM

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Amazon and eBay both have buyer protection, but yeah, that is a good point

snow bridge Apr 28, 2020, 9:21 PM

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why would the bot eat my link if others can post links from the same site (pcpartpicker)

potent prairie Apr 28, 2020, 9:21 PM

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New members can't, you gotta get rank 3 (like chat a while)

snow bridge Apr 28, 2020, 9:22 PM

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thats stupid

potent prairie Apr 28, 2020, 9:22 PM

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See #faqs

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 9:22 PM

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@snow bridge new user link spam protection

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so @snow bridge you can either do as i offered earlier, and send me the link as a dm, or you can interact with the server and level up your account by being active

sudden solstice Apr 28, 2020, 9:25 PM

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So like I’m trying to go for a Ryzen 5 3600 should I try to go new and wait for price to drop or just go for used

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Going on a budget build

stoic island Apr 28, 2020, 9:28 PM

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If you're on a tight budget, you could go for the 1600af.

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 9:29 PM

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@sudden solstice how much of a hurry are you in?

sudden solstice Apr 28, 2020, 9:29 PM

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U think it’s better then the Ryzen 5 3600 lmao

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Not in that much of a hurry

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I just don’t know when prices are going back to normal

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 9:30 PM

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2sec then, let me just check the date

stoic island Apr 28, 2020, 9:30 PM

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(3100x time maybe)

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 9:31 PM

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aye

sudden solstice Apr 28, 2020, 9:31 PM

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K

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Yeah ?

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@foggy hazel how do u even check date

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 9:34 PM

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checking up on release dates @sudden solstice

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its in the next 2 weeks iirc

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we dont know the exact performance yet (because no official reviews yet)

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but ... yeah

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they are looking very tempting

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there, effing finally. @sudden solstice https://www.anandtech.com/show/15736/amd-ryzen-3-3300x-and-ryzen-3-3100-new-low-cost-quadcore-zen-2-processors-from-99

AMD Ryzen 3 3300X and Ryzen 3 3100: New Low Cost Quad-Core Zen 2 Pr...

sudden solstice Apr 28, 2020, 9:36 PM

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Wait what ?

fiery pier Apr 28, 2020, 9:36 PM

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@foggy hazel
Last night I finally got time to swap power supplies.
Last night I watched a movie and today I've been doing work on it since about 10 a.m. it is now 4:30 here. I think it's safe to say it was the power supply

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 9:37 PM

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depending on what you actually need (performance wise) that Ryzen 3 - 3100 might be really really tempting/relevant for you

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@fiery pier good to hear that it seems to be behaving now, fingers crossed it keeps on doing as it is supposed to

sudden solstice Apr 28, 2020, 9:39 PM

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Will the Ryzen 3 3100 be better then the Ryzen 5 3600

fiery pier Apr 28, 2020, 9:39 PM

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Now onto actually putting a graphic card in here.

sudden solstice Apr 28, 2020, 9:39 PM

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?

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@foggy hazel Will the Ryzen 3 3100 be better then the Ryzen 5 3600

fiery pier Apr 28, 2020, 9:40 PM

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@sudden solstice
In my opinion you would be splitting hairs. I am running a Ryzen 3 3200g. Without a graphic card and I'm getting decent performance.

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 9:40 PM

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@sudden solstice technically no.

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@fiery pier you cannot compare them like that

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its a ... mess ... at that end of the model stack

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the 3200g/3400g actually both use 2nd generation cpu cores

sudden solstice Apr 28, 2020, 9:41 PM

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Ahh I see

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 9:41 PM

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not 3rd generation cores like the 3100/3300 will be

fiery pier Apr 28, 2020, 9:41 PM

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But wouldn't it depend on what else you pair it with?

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 9:42 PM

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yes, which is why i said: you cannot compare it like that :)

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and you are also not technically without a GPU

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you just have one integrated with the cpu cores

fiery pier Apr 28, 2020, 9:42 PM

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I guess I jumped in late and I don't know the rest of the build

sudden solstice Apr 28, 2020, 9:43 PM

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I’m gonna go with Ryzen 5 3600

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@foggy hazel when u think prices will go back to normal

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 9:43 PM

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@sudden solstice tomorrow/never

sudden solstice Apr 28, 2020, 9:43 PM

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Bruh what

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 9:43 PM

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dont expect prices to change much

fiery pier Apr 28, 2020, 9:43 PM

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I am, but I did what I would consider an modular budget build

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 9:43 PM

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i cannot predict the future @sudden solstice :) but think about it for a moment.

sudden solstice Apr 28, 2020, 9:44 PM

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So maybe I should go used

fiery pier Apr 28, 2020, 9:44 PM

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My 3200g cost me about $90 U.S.

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 9:44 PM

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what incentive is there for the retailers to rush at getting prices back down?

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they are currently selling all the parts they have

sudden solstice Apr 28, 2020, 9:44 PM

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True true

fiery pier Apr 28, 2020, 9:44 PM

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My entire build to get going was $350

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 9:44 PM

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the retails are happy as effing clams right now in that regard

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@fiery pier the 3200G, for what it is, is a nice product

sudden solstice Apr 28, 2020, 9:46 PM

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So like I said maybe I should go for used parts

fiery pier Apr 28, 2020, 9:47 PM

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I did my research, I have it in a Asrock b450-hdv motherboard and I want to put a Rx-570 with it. And bump it up to 16gb RAM. THEN I SHOULD BE OK

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The issue like Ryan is price right now.

sudden solstice Apr 28, 2020, 9:48 PM

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Lol I’m going for around $600

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 9:49 PM

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have patience

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and have a serious talk with us about parts

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as long as you dont need to buy right this second, breathe and talk with us about it

sudden solstice Apr 28, 2020, 9:50 PM

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U could give us deals ?

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@foggy hazel

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 9:50 PM

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i dont work for newegg

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not even on the same continent

fiery pier Apr 28, 2020, 9:51 PM

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@foggy hazel is there a card that would work better on my build?

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 9:51 PM

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i would go for something a bit more modern if i was you @fiery pier

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5500/5600-ish

sudden solstice Apr 28, 2020, 9:51 PM

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Lmao

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 9:52 PM

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but i am patient (and old enough) that i dont run around in a panic every time there is a shortage of something @sudden solstice

sudden solstice Apr 28, 2020, 9:53 PM

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Yeah I see so u think I’m prob better of waiting for prices

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Or I could go for used to

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 9:54 PM

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is your life going to end by you waiting a week or two?

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if yes? then buy now

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if no. wait

sudden solstice Apr 28, 2020, 9:56 PM

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Lol I’ll wait

sullen spoke Apr 28, 2020, 9:57 PM

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your life is in danger KermitVader

fiery pier Apr 28, 2020, 9:58 PM

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I have another hurdle.
My build is a micro

sudden solstice Apr 28, 2020, 10:03 PM

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Yes

potent prairie Apr 28, 2020, 10:32 PM

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So... Um. I got a Corsair xc7 but the backplate doesn't seem to fit with my Maximus xi hero mobo

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 10:38 PM

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read the manual

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the board and the AIO are compatible

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@potent prairie you certain you have the backplate turned the right way around?

pastel briar Apr 28, 2020, 10:43 PM

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Just got done working on assembly of my server rack

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Now to find a rack mount case for my amd build…

potent prairie Apr 28, 2020, 10:46 PM

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I just went for it. Wish me luck w/ post

sudden turret Apr 28, 2020, 10:51 PM

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should have a plastic spacer behind it no?

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 10:52 PM

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according to the install guide, no. @sudden turret

sudden turret Apr 28, 2020, 10:52 PM

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😮

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 10:52 PM

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which surprised me a fair deal too

sudden turret Apr 28, 2020, 10:52 PM

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but..

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Cringe

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 10:52 PM

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heck if i know, its Corsair

sudden turret Apr 28, 2020, 10:53 PM

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..I suppose

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😄

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 10:54 PM

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https://puu.sh/FDLW7/5d8a88a12e.png

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there are 8 spacers included

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and the last 4 are used on top of the block itself

sudden turret Apr 28, 2020, 10:54 PM

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that is 7 spacers to many

strange garden Apr 28, 2020, 10:55 PM

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Can anyone recommend a 120 aio that works with the NZXT Kraken g12 gpu bracket?

sudden turret Apr 28, 2020, 10:56 PM

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yeah

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corsair h50

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or h55

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you want something with a round base

strange garden Apr 28, 2020, 10:58 PM

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Ya I was just finding it difficult to find one officially compatible at 120mm, a lot of those older coolers work but are hard to find

sudden turret Apr 28, 2020, 10:58 PM

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what gpu are you putting it on?

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I would suggest changing the 80mm nzxt fan that comes with it

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the one I have, so dang noisy

strange garden Apr 28, 2020, 11:00 PM

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Rtx 2080 it’s a card from an hp omen prebuilt

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Temps aren’t awful with the blower buts damn loud

sullen spoke Apr 28, 2020, 11:05 PM

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ye blowers be like that

tranquil dust Apr 28, 2020, 11:06 PM

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blower cards:

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strange garden Apr 28, 2020, 11:08 PM

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It’s pretty rough haha and I only have 2 options for radiators either a 240/280mm up front or a 120mm in back but most the 120’s I find aren’t compatible or $100+

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 11:09 PM

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keep in mind, a fair deal of the noise from the radial fan in the GPU is from it being cooked alive in that case

deft zephyr Apr 28, 2020, 11:09 PM

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I have a question naed, i’ve been looking a lot about how the RX 5700 is better then the 2060 SUper i will be getting, what is the best choice for me?

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 11:10 PM

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saving up the money and worrying about stuff when you have the money to actually buy stuff

deft zephyr Apr 28, 2020, 11:10 PM

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ok

potent prairie Apr 28, 2020, 11:10 PM

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Thx for the help with my cpu cooler

strange garden Apr 28, 2020, 11:11 PM

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I’ve also considered the arctic accelero 4 but it’s kinda ugly haha

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@foggy hazel are you saying my fan is being cooked alive?

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 11:16 PM

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your card is

pastel briar Apr 28, 2020, 11:16 PM

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I need to find a few Noctua fans for my PC 😄

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 11:16 PM

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which is why the fan is ramping up

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because that Omen case is a effed up design

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as i believe i said the other day too

strange garden Apr 28, 2020, 11:17 PM

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I mean temps don’t go above 80 really when it’s under load and it’s not in an omen case

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 11:17 PM

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was that not you?

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oh well, my mistake :)

strange garden Apr 28, 2020, 11:18 PM

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I took the card from a prebuilt and moved it onto a z370-e gaming in an s340 elite case

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 11:18 PM

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that doesnt change the "why" of the fan ramping thou :)

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but you might be able to relax the fan curve a bit if you are curious enough

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but it wont ever be quiet

still roostBOT Apr 28, 2020, 11:18 PM

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Osiris#2769 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 11:19 PM

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because that is just not possible with a radial fan

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(with that kind of heatload)

strange garden Apr 28, 2020, 11:19 PM

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You’re right it’s an inadequate cooling solution, hence why I’m looking at the kraken g12 or the arctic accelero

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I don’t know why anyone even makes blower cards anymore, they’re generally bad

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 11:20 PM

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cooling wise it works fine, it just trades performance for noise

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no, they are actually really good

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they are just not meant for consumer systems

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they are an absolute godsend in racks

strange garden Apr 28, 2020, 11:20 PM

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True

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I guess my comment was geared towards consumer cards

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 11:21 PM

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you try and run 4 cards side by side in a rack with 10 other machines on top with their own 4 cards too

strange garden Apr 28, 2020, 11:21 PM

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If exhaust is your only cooling option then yes they are great

foggy hazel Apr 28, 2020, 11:21 PM

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and a normal dual fan setup will cook itself

cursive wharf Apr 28, 2020, 11:33 PM

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@strange garden Note that I find a lot of AIO kits are more expensive or same price as a RGB copper custom loop kit with just GPU block
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dry breach Apr 28, 2020, 11:37 PM

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Hey I’ve heard of an 144hz lg monitor that is highly recommended, does anyone know the name?

celest horizon Apr 28, 2020, 11:37 PM

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GL850 - it's very good

dry breach Apr 28, 2020, 11:38 PM

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Thank you!

celest horizon Apr 28, 2020, 11:38 PM

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https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/best/by-usage/gaming

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The best FreeSync monitor that we've tested so far is the ASUS TUF VG27AQ. It has fantastic motion handling because of its high refresh rate and low response time.

strange garden Apr 28, 2020, 11:39 PM

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@cursive wharf I’ve thought about trying to do a custom loop, it just seems like more work than it’s worth. The aio w/g12 seemed like a simple upgrade that was more than effective. I also feel like my case is not the best for setting up a loop

cursive wharf Apr 28, 2020, 11:40 PM

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Thing with AIO... pump failure? GPU upgrade?

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Def going to need a proper kit for memory/VRMs cooling too

strange garden Apr 28, 2020, 11:40 PM

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Wouldn’t you run that same risk with an open loop? Also the risk of leaks

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Ya I planned on getting heatsinks with it

cursive wharf Apr 28, 2020, 11:42 PM

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you can generally get better pump quality with open loop. Those things were main mentioned in, a pump replacement costs like what, $35? An AIO replacement costs a lot more then $35. GPU upgrade is just replacing the block. Which is props about as much as a new kit if you go buy something like NZXT kit

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Or if you modify the AIO bracket to fit a GPU PCB, new GPU upgrade may force you to buy a new AIO due to PCB changes

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also +30% perf increase because RGB

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As for leaks, just tighten the fittings properly and it's about the same likely hood for leaks

sudden solstice Apr 29, 2020, 12:01 AM

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Would a Radeon rtx 580 8gb go good with a Ryzen 5 3600

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Mobo is gigabyte B450M DS3H

indigo sedge Apr 29, 2020, 12:06 AM

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Depending on where you're buying the Radeon. I think you should go for a 1660.

exotic vale Apr 29, 2020, 12:09 AM

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hey guys i recently started my first pc build and i have the phanteks p400a case which i love and i really enjoy building with it but the fans have 3 ping DRGB yes DRGB connectors on them, but the motherboard i have (the MSIB450 tomahawk max) only has 4 pin input slots, is there anyway i can get the LEDs to plug in, like is there an adapter or fan hub i need to buy???

sudden solstice Apr 29, 2020, 12:35 AM

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@indigo sedge a GTX 1660 ?

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Super v

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?

indigo sedge Apr 29, 2020, 12:36 AM

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yes probably a super since its more in the price range.

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but depending on where you're buying the Radeon, you might want to stick to that

sudden solstice Apr 29, 2020, 12:36 AM

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I realized there’s different rtx 580’s

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Not the sapphire nitro one

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📎 image0.png

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@indigo sedge

indigo sedge Apr 29, 2020, 12:40 AM

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that could be good choice, i dont know much about Radeon's but you could get a 1650 super and have geforce expierence for recording games and streaming.

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and its way more in the price range then a 1660

exotic vale Apr 29, 2020, 12:40 AM

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Omg

indigo sedge Apr 29, 2020, 12:42 AM

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@exotic vale APoof, you might have to google it. I've only built one pc so i dont have very much experience when it comes to thos issues.

exotic vale Apr 29, 2020, 12:42 AM

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Alright thankyou anyway

sudden solstice Apr 29, 2020, 12:42 AM

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@indigo sedge would a 1650 be way different then a 1660 super

indigo sedge Apr 29, 2020, 12:45 AM

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It's not that much different. You'd prolly get like 20 to 30 more fps with a 1660 super then 1650 super.

still roostBOT Apr 29, 2020, 12:51 AM

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ryan.exe#6969 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

fiery jay Apr 29, 2020, 12:51 AM

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Which word? lol

sudden solstice Apr 29, 2020, 12:52 AM

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This is starting to kinda piss me off cuz I’m trying to find the right graphics card but there’s so many with similar names

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I want this one

📎 image0.png

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But can’t find any bench marks

fiery jay Apr 29, 2020, 12:52 AM

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On an RX 580?

exotic lichen Apr 29, 2020, 12:53 AM

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Is the rtx 2070 and ryzen 5 3600 a bottleneck?

sudden solstice Apr 29, 2020, 1:00 AM

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@fiery jay there’s so many different ones

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There’s like a nitro one

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And I forgot the other ones

fathom bluff Apr 29, 2020, 1:02 AM

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Heya guys im@working on a build but have a few questions. I wanted to know if I get and reg b450 board with my rtx ventus 2060 what would be the best cpu Ryzen 5 3600 or Ryzen 7 2700. I’m looking to stream/edit mainly from the PC but I do plan on playing a few games here and there.

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Any help super appreciated

sudden solstice Apr 29, 2020, 1:02 AM

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O nvm I guess I kinda found one

compact hill Apr 29, 2020, 1:20 AM

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you cant find a benchmark on a 580?

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theres benchmarks on basically every card

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and a 580 is a very common budget option

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theres thousands of benchmarks

sudden solstice Apr 29, 2020, 1:27 AM

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Yeah found one

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Will a gigabyte B450M DS3H allow a Ryzen 5 3600 in it, just making sure

tranquil dust Apr 29, 2020, 1:40 AM

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YES

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yes*

buoyant flame Apr 29, 2020, 1:40 AM

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Smooth recovery

tranquil dust Apr 29, 2020, 1:40 AM

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shhh

buoyant flame Apr 29, 2020, 1:41 AM

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My bad

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I meant to say

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Not a smooth recovery

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Er uh

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Nvm

tranquil dust Apr 29, 2020, 1:42 AM

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you got it

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i believe in you