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cursive wharf Dec 28, 2019, 10:11 PM

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well, most mobos have a short circuit safety thing

muted patio Dec 28, 2019, 10:11 PM

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Here are instructions to test a PSU

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https://www.silverstonetek.com/downloads/QA/PSU/PSU-Paper Clip-EN.pdf

rigid spade Dec 28, 2019, 10:15 PM

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There are no colors on my mobo cord

cursive wharf Dec 28, 2019, 10:16 PM

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which PSU model (not just brand, full model) you got?

muted patio Dec 28, 2019, 10:16 PM

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Count the pins and connect like in the picture.

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ALl wires are in the same place

rigid spade Dec 28, 2019, 10:16 PM

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Yah it works

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We know it's not the psu

muted patio Dec 28, 2019, 10:17 PM

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Next test

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unplug all the front panel connectors

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unplug everything actually including CPU

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so you only have MOBO/CPU/RAm

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try again

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OH, and the power switch

rigid spade Dec 28, 2019, 10:20 PM

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Everything thas plugged into the MOBO besides

muted patio Dec 28, 2019, 10:21 PM

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Unplug everything on the mobo except the power and power switches

cursive wharf Dec 28, 2019, 10:21 PM

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unplug everything that you dont need, including SSD. Need to make sure nothing is short circuiting or smth

muted patio Dec 28, 2019, 10:21 PM

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GPU, front panel, hard drives, etc

rigid spade Dec 28, 2019, 10:22 PM

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Yah my SSD is in the M.2 shield

muted patio Dec 28, 2019, 10:22 PM

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take it out

near pulsar Dec 28, 2019, 10:24 PM

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How do I put in my gpu

stoic island Dec 28, 2019, 10:24 PM

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Slot it in

near pulsar Dec 28, 2019, 10:24 PM

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Do I need to connect any cables first

muted patio Dec 28, 2019, 10:24 PM

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Take off the blaking plates on the back plane

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Insert it ito the top slot

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Plug in power

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Plug in video cable

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Profit

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Actually, might have to turn off integrated in the BIOS if you had it previously

near pulsar Dec 28, 2019, 10:25 PM

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So I have to connect it to my power supply?

muted patio Dec 28, 2019, 10:25 PM

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most of them,m depends on the GPU

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what is it?

near pulsar Dec 28, 2019, 10:25 PM

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It’s an rtx 2070 super

muted patio Dec 28, 2019, 10:25 PM

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Yes

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Gonna need power cables

foggy hazel Dec 28, 2019, 10:25 PM

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Take out the backplate cover, unlock the pci-e port (flip or slide switch), slide it in (if flip switch, it should flip up itself) (if slide, slide it back so it locks). Connect power cables

muted patio Dec 28, 2019, 10:25 PM

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Going to need the 8 Pin Power cables from your power supply

foggy hazel Dec 28, 2019, 10:25 PM

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screw in card.

muted patio Dec 28, 2019, 10:26 PM

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Going to need 1 6 pin and 1 8 pin power cable

near pulsar Dec 28, 2019, 10:26 PM

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Is it this cable

muted patio Dec 28, 2019, 10:26 PM

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So two cables

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That's one

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Need another like it

near pulsar Dec 28, 2019, 10:26 PM

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I need 2?

muted patio Dec 28, 2019, 10:27 PM

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Two plugs in card?

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Most of them do

near pulsar Dec 28, 2019, 10:27 PM

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o

rigid spade Dec 28, 2019, 10:27 PM

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Alright everything is out

near pulsar Dec 28, 2019, 10:27 PM

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So that goes into there?

muted patio Dec 28, 2019, 10:27 PM

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Yes

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two of them do

near pulsar Dec 28, 2019, 10:27 PM

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And 1 goes to the power supply

muted patio Dec 28, 2019, 10:28 PM

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2 cables, both to power supply

near pulsar Dec 28, 2019, 10:28 PM

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oh ok

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lemme try n find another cable

rigid spade Dec 28, 2019, 10:29 PM

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Should be that

muted patio Dec 28, 2019, 10:29 PM

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@rigid spade try and fire up your PC with everything disconnecte

rigid spade Dec 28, 2019, 10:30 PM

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Nope nonthing

muted patio Dec 28, 2019, 10:30 PM

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Poop

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Try disconnecting the power switch cable

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Use the paperclip to short the two pins together manually

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on the motherboard

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or a small screwdriver

near pulsar Dec 28, 2019, 10:35 PM

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Does this look ok lol

muted patio Dec 28, 2019, 10:36 PM

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No GPU?

near pulsar Dec 28, 2019, 10:36 PM

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I’m doin that rn

muted patio Dec 28, 2019, 10:36 PM

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I'd run that CPU power cable up the back side and down between the fans and motherboard

near pulsar Dec 28, 2019, 10:36 PM

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o ok

muted patio Dec 28, 2019, 10:37 PM

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But only because I'm OCD lol

near pulsar Dec 28, 2019, 10:37 PM

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This thing?

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muted patio Dec 28, 2019, 10:37 PM

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No

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upper left

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CPU socket power

near pulsar Dec 28, 2019, 10:37 PM

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Ohh

muted patio Dec 28, 2019, 10:37 PM

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8 pin

near pulsar Dec 28, 2019, 10:37 PM

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ok

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There’s a 4 pin missing next to it do I need it

muted patio Dec 28, 2019, 10:37 PM

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No

near pulsar Dec 28, 2019, 10:37 PM

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Okk

rigid spade Dec 28, 2019, 10:38 PM

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Yah still isn't working

muted patio Dec 28, 2019, 10:39 PM

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Ok. At this point I think the motherboard is DOA. When you start the power supply do the case fans spin?

rigid spade Dec 28, 2019, 10:39 PM

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I think I know what I missed

muted patio Dec 28, 2019, 10:39 PM

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wut

rigid spade Dec 28, 2019, 10:39 PM

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I just

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muted patio Dec 28, 2019, 10:39 PM

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Nah

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That's the USB for RGB

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wait, or is it?

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LOL, cpu fan apower

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I though you said it wouldn't POST though?

rigid spade Dec 28, 2019, 10:40 PM

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No the screw

muted patio Dec 28, 2019, 10:40 PM

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Motherboard screw?

near pulsar Dec 28, 2019, 10:40 PM

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So like that?

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muted patio Dec 28, 2019, 10:40 PM

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That has zero effect on boot

rigid spade Dec 28, 2019, 10:41 PM

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Yah

muted patio Dec 28, 2019, 10:41 PM

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@near pulsar ye

near pulsar Dec 28, 2019, 10:41 PM

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okk

muted patio Dec 28, 2019, 10:41 PM

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Motherboard screws have zero effect on booting

rigid spade Dec 28, 2019, 10:41 PM

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Oh I heard a few stories about the studs no being in

muted patio Dec 28, 2019, 10:41 PM

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When you tested the PSU, did the case fans spin?

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Did you have any plugged in?

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I should say

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case fans not connected to the motherboard

rigid spade Dec 28, 2019, 10:42 PM

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Yes

near pulsar Dec 28, 2019, 10:42 PM

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rigid spade Dec 28, 2019, 10:42 PM

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They worked

near pulsar Dec 28, 2019, 10:42 PM

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so I plug it in like that?

muted patio Dec 28, 2019, 10:42 PM

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@near pulsar the two pins need plugged in also

near pulsar Dec 28, 2019, 10:42 PM

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oh ok

muted patio Dec 28, 2019, 10:42 PM

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@rigid spade Then I say bad motherboard

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Pull the CPU and check for bent pins

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if no bent pins, motherboard is DOA

rigid spade Dec 28, 2019, 10:44 PM

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Hmmm

muted patio Dec 28, 2019, 10:45 PM

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PSU starts and runs. Nothing on the motherboard but CPU and RAM. MOtherboard doesn't start. Even with a bad CPU motherboard should start and have a CPU light

near pulsar Dec 28, 2019, 10:45 PM

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So like that

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muted patio Dec 28, 2019, 10:46 PM

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Yes

near pulsar Dec 28, 2019, 10:46 PM

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okk

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So then I plug in those cables to the power supply?

muted patio Dec 28, 2019, 10:50 PM

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Yes

near pulsar Dec 28, 2019, 10:51 PM

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do I need any other cables attach to the gpu

muted patio Dec 28, 2019, 10:51 PM

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Nope

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just video to the monitor

near pulsar Dec 28, 2019, 10:52 PM

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so I just need to slide it into the slot and I’m done?

muted patio Dec 28, 2019, 10:52 PM

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Yes

near pulsar Dec 28, 2019, 10:52 PM

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ok thx

muted patio Dec 28, 2019, 10:52 PM

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Welcome

near pulsar Dec 28, 2019, 10:52 PM

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O also

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is there a special way of taking this out

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Cause when I try to pull it out it’s like stuck

muted patio Dec 28, 2019, 10:52 PM

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Pull straight. It's going to be stuff

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Try wiggle left and right carefully

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BUt they're stiff yeah

near pulsar Dec 28, 2019, 10:53 PM

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ok I’ll try it lol

sudden turret Dec 28, 2019, 10:54 PM

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I hate those plugs.

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so much.

foggy hazel Dec 28, 2019, 10:56 PM

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@sudden turret be happy that we have those plugs now. the period where we had front panel connector style loose wires was hell

feral yoke Dec 28, 2019, 11:05 PM

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Pc turns on windows runs works fine, usually 1-2 hours it’ll turn to black screen fans go to default colors still spinning same with ram. Fans just spinning. No component is higher than 51c this will be during rocket league which my ryzen7 32gb ddr4 850psu x470 mobo Radeon 5700xt shouldn’t have any struggle with since I’m on a 165hz mis curved 1080p monitor. It was built from Newegg piece by piece in July. Around September it did this exact thing. Re seated the ram worked fine for three months almost started doing this again after the amd adrenaline update for 2020. Thought maybe it was driver issue but turned on left on in uefi screen still did this odd shut down thing. Need to figure out what’s up with it bc funds are tight and everything is still under warranties if needed. Also I’m in a small town with very little resources of pc repair diagnostic and such. Sorry so long of a post. Figured someone might have an idea that’ll help. Thanks.

stoic island Dec 28, 2019, 11:10 PM

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Any OC?

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If you have 3dmarks run a stress test

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Do other kinds of stress tests for other componets

sudden turret Dec 28, 2019, 11:18 PM

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@feral yoke

woven horizon Dec 28, 2019, 11:19 PM

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If anyone has a budget of 350 dollars I've put together a parts list for yah if you're interested.

ember sierra Dec 28, 2019, 11:31 PM

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Hey, I have a Core i3, rx 570 and 8gb ram. I‘m not home, so I can’t be more specific. Would the money be worth upgrading to the i7-9700k, 16 gigs and maybe rtx 2070s or similar?

woven horizon Dec 28, 2019, 11:33 PM

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you dont know which i3?

ember sierra Dec 28, 2019, 11:34 PM

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Well not really, I still have the box. But I‘m not home...

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It’s probably 8300, tho

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It should be 8th gen, but I’m not sure which one

woven horizon Dec 28, 2019, 11:37 PM

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are you trying to change motherboards?

ember sierra Dec 28, 2019, 11:37 PM

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No, I‘m pretty much trying to keep my old one

woven horizon Dec 28, 2019, 11:39 PM

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so you arent planning on overclocking just get the 9700 then

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or 9700f

rigid spade Dec 28, 2019, 11:41 PM

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muted patio Dec 28, 2019, 11:41 PM

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Ayyy, what was it?

ember sierra Dec 28, 2019, 11:41 PM

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#build-pics

muted patio Dec 28, 2019, 11:41 PM

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@rigid spade what did you find with it?

ember sierra Dec 28, 2019, 11:42 PM

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Should I also upgrade from 8 to 16 gb RAM?

muted patio Dec 28, 2019, 11:43 PM

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More ram is never a bad thing

prisma spear Dec 28, 2019, 11:43 PM

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Yo so I built a pc it’s been work for months yesterday I go to turn it on and turns on but doesn’t boot the qleds show a white light next to the vga does anyone know how to fix this

rigid spade Dec 28, 2019, 11:43 PM

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Got it

muted patio Dec 28, 2019, 11:43 PM

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What was wrong with it?

rigid spade Dec 28, 2019, 11:43 PM

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I put the switch and stuff it the similar looking on but wasn't the right one

muted patio Dec 28, 2019, 11:44 PM

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Oh

rigid spade Dec 28, 2019, 11:44 PM

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Now I gotta get my HDMI working

muted patio Dec 28, 2019, 11:44 PM

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It looked right in the pics

ember sierra Dec 28, 2019, 11:44 PM

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@muted patio which ram should I get? Preferably under 100$

muted patio Dec 28, 2019, 11:44 PM

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Whatever matches your current ram

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Don't mismatch kits

ember sierra Dec 28, 2019, 11:44 PM

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My slots are full

muted patio Dec 28, 2019, 11:44 PM

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@prisma spear that means GPU is faulty. Check power and reseat in the slot

ember sierra Dec 28, 2019, 11:44 PM

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I‘d have to switch

muted patio Dec 28, 2019, 11:44 PM

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Ah

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processor?

prisma spear Dec 28, 2019, 11:45 PM

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Ok how would I do that I’m kind new to this

ember sierra Dec 28, 2019, 11:45 PM

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9700

woven horizon Dec 28, 2019, 11:45 PM

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https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-3000MHz-Desktop-Memory/dp/B0134EW7G8/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=16gb+ddr4&qid=1577576691&sr=8-2

muted patio Dec 28, 2019, 11:45 PM

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Well considering it only supports 2666 mhz ram

ember sierra Dec 28, 2019, 11:45 PM

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Okay

muted patio Dec 28, 2019, 11:45 PM

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Need some of that

prisma spear Dec 28, 2019, 11:45 PM

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How would I check the power and reset the slot

woven horizon Dec 28, 2019, 11:45 PM

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ah didnt know that lol

muted patio Dec 28, 2019, 11:46 PM

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Pull the GPU out of the slot and put it back in

prisma spear Dec 28, 2019, 11:46 PM

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Ok thanks

muted patio Dec 28, 2019, 11:46 PM

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Make sure the power cables are seated also

prisma spear Dec 28, 2019, 11:46 PM

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Ok

woven horizon Dec 28, 2019, 11:46 PM

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@ember sierra https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-2666MHz-Desktop-Memory/dp/B0123ZC44Y/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=16gb+ddr4+2666&qid=1577576777&sr=8-3 cheaper and its 2666

ember sierra Dec 28, 2019, 11:47 PM

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Yup

muted patio Dec 28, 2019, 11:47 PM

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That's only 1 stick

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need two for dual channel

woven horizon Dec 28, 2019, 11:47 PM

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2x8

muted patio Dec 28, 2019, 11:47 PM

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Oh sorry

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my bad

ember sierra Dec 28, 2019, 11:47 PM

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The picture is a little confusing

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So okay

woven horizon Dec 28, 2019, 11:48 PM

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one of them has 2 sticks lol

ember sierra Dec 28, 2019, 11:49 PM

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Which 9700 would be worth getting? Normal, K, KF..?

rigid spade Dec 28, 2019, 11:49 PM

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Now I need a bit of help with my hdmi it isn't connecting

woven horizon Dec 28, 2019, 11:49 PM

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you have a gpu right? just get the 9700f

stoic island Dec 28, 2019, 11:49 PM

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Wdym

woven horizon Dec 28, 2019, 11:49 PM

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since you are not going to OC

ember sierra Dec 28, 2019, 11:50 PM

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Yup

muted patio Dec 28, 2019, 11:50 PM

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What do you mean the HDMI isn't connecting

foggy hazel Dec 28, 2019, 11:50 PM

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@stoic island K = unlocked, KF = unlocked with no gpu

ember sierra Dec 28, 2019, 11:50 PM

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I have the rx570, should I upgrade?

stoic island Dec 28, 2019, 11:50 PM

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Daeday wdym

woven horizon Dec 28, 2019, 11:50 PM

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570 is okay i mean if money isnt an issue then go for it

ember sierra Dec 28, 2019, 11:51 PM

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It is tho

stoic island Dec 28, 2019, 11:51 PM

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Is your htmi giving no signal?

rigid spade Dec 28, 2019, 11:51 PM

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My hdmi port ain't going to the screen and it's both connected

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Yah

stoic island Dec 28, 2019, 11:51 PM

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Are you sure your cable is good?

ember sierra Dec 28, 2019, 11:51 PM

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Is the source correctly chosen in the monitor

rigid spade Dec 28, 2019, 11:51 PM

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Yes I have tried 2 cables

ember sierra Dec 28, 2019, 11:51 PM

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The source in the monitor?

rigid spade Dec 28, 2019, 11:51 PM

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Yes the source is correct I just tried to plug it into my TV and still isn't working

woven horizon Dec 28, 2019, 11:52 PM

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i mean youll be bottlenecking your pc lol

rigid spade Dec 28, 2019, 11:53 PM

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My mouse and keyboard are lit up

muted patio Dec 28, 2019, 11:53 PM

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Ugh

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that site is garbage

woven horizon Dec 28, 2019, 11:53 PM

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what should i use? lol

muted patio Dec 28, 2019, 11:54 PM

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There's no bottleneck there

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Scores are even

ember sierra Dec 28, 2019, 11:54 PM

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Sure?

woven horizon Dec 28, 2019, 11:54 PM

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sounds good then dont change the gpu then

muted patio Dec 28, 2019, 11:54 PM

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Look, the CPU is a little bit fast for the GPU

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But honestly it's not even worth worrying about

ember sierra Dec 28, 2019, 11:55 PM

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K, so I will keep the rx570

muted patio Dec 28, 2019, 11:55 PM

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Bottleneck is such a bad term

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All it means is that there is room to upgrade the GPU

woven horizon Dec 28, 2019, 11:55 PM

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my wife has a 570 with the 4770k and everything is good

muted patio Dec 28, 2019, 11:55 PM

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the 570 isn't a bad card for 1080po gaming

ember sierra Dec 28, 2019, 11:56 PM

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Good, I don’t have the spend the money, then

muted patio Dec 28, 2019, 11:56 PM

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SPend the money when things don't perform the way you want

woven horizon Dec 28, 2019, 11:56 PM

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saves you a good chunk

muted patio Dec 28, 2019, 11:56 PM

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If you're happy with the way it games, I wouldn't worry about it

ember sierra Dec 28, 2019, 11:57 PM

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Well I am not rn

woven horizon Dec 28, 2019, 11:57 PM

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words from a wise person those are

ember sierra Dec 28, 2019, 11:57 PM

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Oh yeah

muted patio Dec 28, 2019, 11:57 PM

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going from an i3 will definitely improce GPU performance

woven horizon Dec 28, 2019, 11:57 PM

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im not happy until i get 144fps in everything 😿

ember sierra Dec 28, 2019, 11:59 PM

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I played The Cycle, maybe u know the game, on full graphic settings and used Discord vc on the same time. And I got Micro lags, like frame stuck for not even a second. But it still bothered me, so that should be fixed with better cpu and ram?

woven horizon Dec 28, 2019, 11:59 PM

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micro stutters are poo poo for sure

ember sierra Dec 28, 2019, 11:59 PM

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And is that cpu or gpu problem

woven horizon Dec 29, 2019, 12:00 AM

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have you looked at your usage while playing the game?

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i mean the game has pretty low recommended specs ]

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it does recommend a rx580

muted patio Dec 29, 2019, 12:03 AM

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CPU

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Discord voice is CPU intensive

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My old i5 was terrible for that in game

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voice was super choppy

polar holly Dec 29, 2019, 12:05 AM

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another good option is using frame limiting in games

pine parrot Dec 29, 2019, 1:47 AM

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true

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my build has a pretty big bottleneck

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frame limiting makes some games sometimes smoother

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pretty much gets rid of micro stutters though

polar holly Dec 29, 2019, 2:02 AM

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whats your build running

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@pine parrot

little osprey Dec 29, 2019, 2:51 AM

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Frame limiting is a great thing to do if you can't get too great of frames. I would reccomend if you have a 60/75hz monitor limit your fps to 60/75

near pulsar Dec 29, 2019, 3:18 AM

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What should I do if my pc isn’t turning on and I plugged in everything

polar holly Dec 29, 2019, 3:19 AM

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check your connections and your power supply is on

near pulsar Dec 29, 2019, 3:22 AM

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I checked my power supply the switch is on

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And I checked all my connections they are plugged in

polar holly Dec 29, 2019, 3:26 AM

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is there no power running to your build

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or only parts

near pulsar Dec 29, 2019, 3:56 AM

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Only the motherboard and rtx and ram rgb is turned on

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The fans won’t spin or boot up

polar holly Dec 29, 2019, 4:00 AM

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Are there ant boot errors on the mobo

near pulsar Dec 29, 2019, 4:00 AM

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I have no idea

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That’s what it looks like rn

polar holly Dec 29, 2019, 4:00 AM

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what mobo do you have

near pulsar Dec 29, 2019, 4:00 AM

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Just none of the fans are spinning

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The Asus maximus xi hero WiFi

polar holly Dec 29, 2019, 4:01 AM

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there should be a error readout at the top right turn it off and try booting it and look at the code when it stops

near pulsar Dec 29, 2019, 4:02 AM

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Oh

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It said 00 I think?

polar holly Dec 29, 2019, 4:03 AM

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is that what it stopped on

near pulsar Dec 29, 2019, 4:03 AM

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I think so

polar holly Dec 29, 2019, 4:03 AM

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if you can turn it off and back on

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and check

near pulsar Dec 29, 2019, 4:03 AM

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Do I need to connect my keyboard and mouse and stuff first?

polar holly Dec 29, 2019, 4:04 AM

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no just turn it off and on will let it boot

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and the error will show

near pulsar Dec 29, 2019, 4:04 AM

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When I turn it on everything turns red and then it goes away

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It like blinked red

polar holly Dec 29, 2019, 4:04 AM

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can you record that with your phone and post it

near pulsar Dec 29, 2019, 4:04 AM

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Yes

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@polar holly there ya go

polar holly Dec 29, 2019, 4:08 AM

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what wattage psu are you using

near pulsar Dec 29, 2019, 4:08 AM

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750

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polar holly Dec 29, 2019, 4:09 AM

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I have never seen this personally i would say wait and see if someone else has seen this

near pulsar Dec 29, 2019, 4:09 AM

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Okk thanks

vestal cove Dec 29, 2019, 4:39 AM

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How much fans do you guys think is good

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3 intakes, 2 exhaust

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Or 3 intakes, 3 exhaust

elfin remnant Dec 29, 2019, 4:41 AM

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3 intakes 2 exhaust

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is fine, its what i do and it works wonderfully

vestal cove Dec 29, 2019, 4:44 AM

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@near pulsar maybe try pressing the power button on your case

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My friend had this problem

near pulsar Dec 29, 2019, 4:46 AM

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I did that

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The mobo turns on but then flashes red and then turns off

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Except the rgb on the ram mobo and gpu

warm nova Dec 29, 2019, 4:49 AM

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@near pulsar usually something like this is the result of something like a short, but not enough to trip the power supply protections. Look for something like a fan that isnt plugged into the fan header correctly. Also could be something like an issue with an internal usb plug front panel power and led not plugged in the right way

near pulsar Dec 29, 2019, 4:51 AM

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ok I’ll check the cables rn

warm nova Dec 29, 2019, 4:51 AM

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saw a guy last week on another discord that was doing something similar and it turned out to be a fan that was off by 1 pin somehow.

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also you might want to flip those top fans over. usually you want the top to be exhaust

woven horizon Dec 29, 2019, 5:34 AM

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@ember sierra wow thats alot of cables that need to be in the back of the case peepoBirdie

ember sierra Dec 29, 2019, 5:38 AM

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Ik

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I will sort it all, once I upgrade cpu and ram.

rigid spade Dec 29, 2019, 6:16 AM

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Quick question is there a way to change the colors on the corsair vengeance

lime forge Dec 29, 2019, 6:17 AM

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if its corsair vengeance rgb

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download icue

dark thistle Dec 29, 2019, 6:23 AM

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How do people get like braided colored cords for their Mobo to psu cord? And PSU to GPU cord?

latent bronze Dec 29, 2019, 6:40 AM

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extensions

muted patio Dec 29, 2019, 6:40 AM

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For examply

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sterile wave Dec 29, 2019, 7:11 AM

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Holy shoot those are pricy *

earnest olive Dec 29, 2019, 7:16 AM

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just took the plunge and ordered all the parts for my first build

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oh boy i'm excited

regal forge Dec 29, 2019, 7:44 AM

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Whats the best GTX 2070 super im looking and there are lots of options lol?

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There is alot to choose from?

latent bronze Dec 29, 2019, 8:11 AM

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@regal forge The best is EVGA and second place is actually Zotac

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Also would be cheaper to build it yourself

regal forge Dec 29, 2019, 8:13 AM

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Yes I know I’ve been told 😂 @latent bronze

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Wait a lot of them are EVGA any recommendations there is 3 EVGA graphics cards there

latent bronze Dec 29, 2019, 8:16 AM

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@regal forge air or liquid cooling

regal forge Dec 29, 2019, 8:16 AM

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Liquid

latent bronze Dec 29, 2019, 8:16 AM

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So you go for the hybrid

regal forge Dec 29, 2019, 8:16 AM

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What do you mean?

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Sorry kinda a nood when it comes to pc's

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I put a 240mm Liquid cooler in it

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So i guess its a hybrid

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@latent bronze

muted dawn Dec 29, 2019, 8:27 AM

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just bought some parts for my first gaming pc 🙂

latent bronze Dec 29, 2019, 8:27 AM

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This is what it looks like https://images.evga.com/products/gallery/08G-P4-3178-KR_XL_5.jpg

regal forge Dec 29, 2019, 8:27 AM

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So thats water cooled?

muted dawn Dec 29, 2019, 8:28 AM

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just got some pc parts for my first gaming pc 🙂

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no case, storage or monitor yet 😦

regal forge Dec 29, 2019, 8:31 AM

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I get what you saying now, So if i get a water cooler and dont get a water cooled graphics card it is a waste?@latent bronze

latent bronze Dec 29, 2019, 8:39 AM

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It is up to you if you want to go hybrid or not

latent bronze Dec 29, 2019, 9:00 AM

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@regal forge If you want to save money go for the air cooling one

regal forge Dec 29, 2019, 9:07 AM

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Okay appreciate that sorry not knowing much @latent bronze

ember sierra Dec 29, 2019, 9:09 AM

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It’s fine not knowing a lot u know

little osprey Dec 29, 2019, 9:09 AM

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Not sure if EVGA really deserves the title of "best" without further qualifiers

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No idea why zotac is mentioned - do they have a particularly good card/sale/deal in that price range?

latent bronze Dec 29, 2019, 9:09 AM

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Zotac makes great dual fan cards that are also small

little osprey Dec 29, 2019, 9:10 AM

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Hybrid gpu coolers are just a headache

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The ftw3 hybrid has got such nice hardware, but even it suffers from Q/C issues, hard to diagnose and fix fan/pump curve issues, list goes on

latent bronze Dec 29, 2019, 9:10 AM

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No idea how they're a headache when custom loops are the headaches

little osprey Dec 29, 2019, 9:12 AM

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While I rarely suggest custom loop configs as the first , go-to recommendation - TBH - they're only really a headache if you want it to be.

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Like most things PC - read directions, do research, ask around a bit for input - you'll avoid 90% of the mistakes everyone else makes.

cursive wharf Dec 29, 2019, 9:14 AM

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Havent heard Zotac being good due to lack of proper VRM cooling

little osprey Dec 29, 2019, 9:14 AM

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Has that caused problems on those cards? - e.g. "evga 1080 reference PCB firework show" fun

cursive wharf Dec 29, 2019, 9:15 AM

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I dont think so. However they certainly cant be considered the best if they lack VRM cooling

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which a fair few other cards do include that afaik. That doesnt mean they arent good however

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but yes, that EVGA failure was certainly interesting

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was it memory or VRM that turned to flames? dont remember

little osprey Dec 29, 2019, 9:17 AM

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Just a bad shipment of caps I think. Idk - I have a reference MSI 1080

cursive wharf Dec 29, 2019, 9:18 AM

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No no. The failure about lacking the thermal pads or smth

latent bronze Dec 29, 2019, 9:19 AM

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Well i haven't seen any issues with them from what i can tell

cursive wharf Dec 29, 2019, 9:19 AM

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I think it was this, still looking into it (btw this issue is fixed and shouldnt be a concern)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAbl0fLY06U

YouTube

WccftechTV

EVGA NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 VRM Catches Fire Caught On Camera

EVGA's overheating VRM issue detailed & list of affected cards :
http://wccftech.com/nvidia-gtx-1080-1070-evga-cards-dying/

EVGA's GTX 1080, 1070 & 1060 overheating VRMs issue Part 2 :
http://wccftech.com/nvidia-gtx-1080-evga-catches-fire-video/

Michael Duncan's YouTube Ch...

▶ Play video

latent bronze Dec 29, 2019, 9:25 AM

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The only real problem EVGA had back then was with the 600 series

little osprey Dec 29, 2019, 9:27 AM

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I'm not aware of any GPu having notoriously problematic vrm cooling design flaws - most of that is just reddit hivemind FUD , I'm curious though

cursive wharf Dec 29, 2019, 9:30 AM

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seemed like it was a semi small issue. Maybe a bad batch I think

dry tinsel Dec 29, 2019, 10:43 AM

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Bekora those CableMod cables look stunning

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just the basic black ones

zealous haven Dec 29, 2019, 11:05 AM

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Hey is anyone around

tight bluff Dec 29, 2019, 12:34 PM

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Nope

autumn scroll Dec 29, 2019, 1:57 PM

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so im planning on watercooling my gpu and adding another rad anyone know a good pump and res combo? currently on a pump that came in a ek classic pack

little osprey Dec 29, 2019, 2:02 PM

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i have my tubing hooked directly to the sink

sudden turret Dec 29, 2019, 2:37 PM

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@autumn scroll ek classic?

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I use ekwb fluid gaming for cpu/gpu

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oh I see

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the 'classics kit'

autumn scroll Dec 29, 2019, 2:44 PM

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yea im not sure the name off the top of my head

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tbh i bought the classic kit to see if i wanted to go further into watercooling

dark thistle Dec 29, 2019, 2:54 PM

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So I'm wanting a performance over looks build what is the best cooling case?

mossy citrus Dec 29, 2019, 4:06 PM

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Im thinking on getting a prebuilt basic pc that has great specs and just throwing in a rtx 2060 or lower

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https://www.amazon.com/Newest-Dell-Inspiron-Premium-Desktop/dp/B07TM1QGLF here are specs

muted patio Dec 29, 2019, 4:08 PM

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Gonna need a PSU to do that

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And Dell tends to be poopy with their proprietary PSU sizes and such

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it only comes with a 230 watt PSU from what I've read

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You'll also need to be sure to get a short card

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This is the inside

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polar holly Dec 29, 2019, 4:19 PM

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Infinity how much are you looking to drop on the build

latent bronze Dec 29, 2019, 4:21 PM

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@mossy citrus You might think it would be cheaper to do that but in the end you're going to end up spending more money

muted patio Dec 29, 2019, 4:22 PM

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Yep

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PSU plus a 2060 = $400-500

polar holly Dec 29, 2019, 4:22 PM

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and these build have little to no upgradability so when you want to its a complete overhaul

muted patio Dec 29, 2019, 4:22 PM

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Which brings the price to $1000

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When you could just do https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8Np8Zf

latent bronze Dec 29, 2019, 4:23 PM

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not to mention he would also need to get a PCIE USB 3.x header as well

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Cause while it has 3.0 in the front the rear is always more powerful

dark thistle Dec 29, 2019, 5:10 PM

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@little osprey what was the case in your showcase

mossy citrus Dec 29, 2019, 5:33 PM

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Ok thx

tranquil dust Dec 29, 2019, 5:33 PM

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Nice

polar holly Dec 29, 2019, 5:39 PM

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@dark thistle that’s a pco11 from lianli

vestal cove Dec 29, 2019, 5:50 PM

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What’s better than an i5-9600k that’s is not an i9 or i7-9700k

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Or an amd cpu

muted patio Dec 29, 2019, 5:52 PM

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Nothing for the money

eager chasm Dec 29, 2019, 5:53 PM

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NPCMechanicFacepalm

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You litterally asked what's better then said not to include everything that is better

sterile wave Dec 29, 2019, 5:53 PM

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The answer is an amd cpu

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Dumb

eager chasm Dec 29, 2019, 5:54 PM

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Ryzen 5 3600X will get you double the treads for a bit more, but it's just about equal in gaming

polar holly Dec 29, 2019, 5:55 PM

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i would reccomend getting a 3600 non x and a beafy cooler

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its roughly the same performance

eager chasm Dec 29, 2019, 5:56 PM

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^ value option

muted patio Dec 29, 2019, 5:56 PM

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The 9600 is a fine processor. Only upgrade path from there is an i7 or AMD part

polar holly Dec 29, 2019, 5:56 PM

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its like 4% differnece stock for the differnce in price

muted patio Dec 29, 2019, 5:56 PM

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Yup. totally not worth it

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Honestly, not worth upgrading at all right now unless you want to do some encoding or high end gaming

eager chasm Dec 29, 2019, 5:57 PM

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Or rendering, or any heavy work

polar holly Dec 29, 2019, 5:57 PM

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and if your building a k series cpu make sure to get a z series board for it

eager chasm Dec 29, 2019, 5:58 PM

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Yea, it's not as open as the AMD offerings in overclocking

muted patio Dec 29, 2019, 5:58 PM

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Literally every AMD processor is unlocked

polar holly Dec 29, 2019, 5:58 PM

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and on all boards they are overclockable

eager chasm Dec 29, 2019, 5:59 PM

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And can OC on any board that can handle it

muted patio Dec 29, 2019, 5:59 PM

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Yup

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ALthough I'm gonna be honest

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I'm using the auto overclocking option

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And it's damn near as good as manually overclocking

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I'm not gonna push it for an extra 100-150 mhz

polar holly Dec 29, 2019, 6:00 PM

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if your not running water or a large aircooler its not worth doing a manual oc

eager chasm Dec 29, 2019, 6:00 PM

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Fire and forget the PBO, it's basically a free overclock without voiding warrenty

muted patio Dec 29, 2019, 6:00 PM

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I run water

eager chasm Dec 29, 2019, 6:00 PM

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Dumb

muted patio Dec 29, 2019, 6:00 PM

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Getting 4.3 out of a 3700x letting it do it's thing. Not much more to be had there.

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ALl core 4.3

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Also, auto overclocking =/= PBO

polar holly Dec 29, 2019, 6:00 PM

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ohh yeah on that chip it isnt needed. i got quite abit when doing it on a 3950x

eager chasm Dec 29, 2019, 6:02 PM

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StaffPazzDeskSlap PBO isn't overclocking of course, but the auto OC Hurts my performance as it lowers my boost lol

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It's stupid...

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Since the boost is always up increasing the boost feels like an OC

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Dumb

polar holly Dec 29, 2019, 6:04 PM

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If your ocing a chip make sure you done infinity fabric also

muted patio Dec 29, 2019, 6:05 PM

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Eh

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That's wonky

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any time you unlink it it goes 2:1

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best to run slow ram to OC the fabric according to Gamers Nexus tests

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Oddly enough

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Something like DDR 2666 CL12 or 14 with OC'd fabric was the best

eager chasm Dec 29, 2019, 6:06 PM

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Ryzen 3rd gen is a crazy landscape....

muted patio Dec 29, 2019, 6:06 PM

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that's because it's two processors connected with a chiplet

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on the same package

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Unique beasty

polar holly Dec 29, 2019, 6:06 PM

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i found mine to personally run the best at 3733 with a 1 to 1 was giving me the best perfromance

muted patio Dec 29, 2019, 6:07 PM

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Well yeah, that's 1866 fabric clock

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They typically max out at 1900

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so you arne't 2:1

eager chasm Dec 29, 2019, 6:07 PM

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I can only get my RAM to it's advertised 3200 and I'm fine with that

muted patio Dec 29, 2019, 6:07 PM

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Fun fact though, that might actually be slower than lower clocked ram and unlinked

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Lemme find it

polar holly Dec 29, 2019, 6:08 PM

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2:1 was giving hell of weird cpu timing

muted patio Dec 29, 2019, 6:08 PM

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📎 2_gta-v_ryzen-3000-memory-benchmark.png

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have a read through here

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https://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/3508-ryzen-3000-memory-benchmark-best-ram-fclk-uclock-mclock

Ryzen 3000 Memory Benchmark & Best RAM for Ryzen (fClock, uClock, ...

Memory speed on Ryzen has always been a hot subject, with AMD’s 1000 and 2000 series CPUs responding favorably to fast memory while at the same time having difficulty getting past 3200MHz in Gen1. The new Ryzen 3000 chips officially support memory speeds up to 3200MHz and c...

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It's funky

eager chasm Dec 29, 2019, 6:09 PM

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NYEHE everything about Ryzen 3rd gen is weird it takes everything about traditional CPU design and throws it out the window

polar holly Dec 29, 2019, 6:09 PM

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which isnt bad

eager chasm Dec 29, 2019, 6:09 PM

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It's great

muted patio Dec 29, 2019, 6:09 PM

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Innovation is never bad

eager chasm Dec 29, 2019, 6:09 PM

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Innovation is awesome

muted patio Dec 29, 2019, 6:09 PM

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Well, Ok, let me rephrase that

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Competition is never bad

eager chasm Dec 29, 2019, 6:10 PM

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Bulldozer exists

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So not all innovation is good XD

little osprey Dec 29, 2019, 6:46 PM

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W0t

tranquil dust Dec 29, 2019, 6:46 PM

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Uh oh

latent bronze Dec 29, 2019, 6:48 PM

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@muted patio I tend to question lists that is like 4 months old

muted patio Dec 29, 2019, 6:48 PM

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Which list?

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Monitor one?

latent bronze Dec 29, 2019, 6:48 PM

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the one you posted on memory

muted patio Dec 29, 2019, 6:48 PM

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From Gamers Nexus?

latent bronze Dec 29, 2019, 6:49 PM

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yes it was from September 4th

muted patio Dec 29, 2019, 6:49 PM

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So, processors haven't changed in 4 months, neither have motherboards or RAM?

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I guess BIOS has

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You think the new BIOS microcode would affect it that much?

latent bronze Dec 29, 2019, 6:50 PM

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never know

muted patio Dec 29, 2019, 6:51 PM

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I mean, the difference is mostly 3-4 FPS

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I can't find a newer test that's nearly as in depth as that one. Have you seen one?

foggy hazel Dec 29, 2019, 6:53 PM

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@eager chasm re:bulldozer: it was a bet that AMD made at the time. IF it had turned out that the software stack had moved as they bet? it would have been a big win

muted patio Dec 29, 2019, 7:21 PM

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That's actually my list I put together the other day for someone else

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$1500 build

uncut surge Dec 29, 2019, 7:21 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DRp4gJ is this fine

muted patio Dec 29, 2019, 7:22 PM

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Swap out the Samsung for a Sabrent Rocket 1 TB NVME

mortal marten Dec 29, 2019, 7:22 PM

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its a great list

drifting jetty Dec 29, 2019, 7:22 PM

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I

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I what

mortal marten Dec 29, 2019, 7:22 PM

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except the psu

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i would get 700-800w

muted patio Dec 29, 2019, 7:22 PM

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Yeah, PSU is too small

mortal marten Dec 29, 2019, 7:23 PM

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otherwise you got a slapping gaming build there

uncut surge Dec 29, 2019, 7:23 PM

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thx man

drifting jetty Dec 29, 2019, 7:23 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/user/AlphAlphonso/saved/#view=3Fs6RB

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This is legit my part list

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I'm so lost

mortal marten Dec 29, 2019, 7:23 PM

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issa hack

muted patio Dec 29, 2019, 7:23 PM

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Right

mortal marten Dec 29, 2019, 7:24 PM

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your mind has been

muted patio Dec 29, 2019, 7:24 PM

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This is the list they posted in the other channel

mortal marten Dec 29, 2019, 7:24 PM

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freaked

muted patio Dec 29, 2019, 7:24 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8YPck6

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Oh, they've edited it

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😉

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that's why

drifting jetty Dec 29, 2019, 7:25 PM

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I mean I don't mind if they use it

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It just made me doubletake

uncut surge Dec 29, 2019, 7:26 PM

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@mortal marten is 650 w fine

mortal marten Dec 29, 2019, 7:27 PM

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its fine for 9700k and 2080s

muted patio Dec 29, 2019, 7:27 PM

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Eh, that's bare minimum

mortal marten Dec 29, 2019, 7:27 PM

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sure

muted patio Dec 29, 2019, 7:27 PM

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700-750 if you can

uncut surge Dec 29, 2019, 7:27 PM

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okay

cursive wharf Dec 29, 2019, 8:03 PM

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@uncut surge I'd go for this https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YqHjGc

little osprey Dec 29, 2019, 8:10 PM

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I trust some 650w psu's far more than something that feels worringly light and comes with the ketchup and mustard cables.

eager chasm Dec 29, 2019, 8:10 PM

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750w is pretty good until you start going into extreme processors or multiple GPUs

polar holly Dec 29, 2019, 8:11 PM

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why are we matching a 2080ti with a 3600

eager chasm Dec 29, 2019, 8:11 PM

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Cause why not

polar holly Dec 29, 2019, 8:11 PM

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fair

eager chasm Dec 29, 2019, 8:11 PM

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It won't bottleneck it in most games

polar holly Dec 29, 2019, 8:12 PM

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nah just more wondering why not go with like a 3700 with a 2080super

cursive wharf Dec 29, 2019, 8:12 PM

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Cuz we aren't playing in 1080p I assume?

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Which as such 2080Ti wins

polar holly Dec 29, 2019, 8:12 PM

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you can run 1440p 144 on a 2070 non super.

cursive wharf Dec 29, 2019, 8:13 PM

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If you getting a 2080S or 2080Ti I'd hope you aren't playing 1080p. But 1440p or higher makes it basically equal on CPU perf

little osprey Dec 29, 2019, 8:14 PM

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From a practical sense- why blow $1200 on a gpu to shave $300 off a 3900x->3600

polar holly Dec 29, 2019, 8:14 PM

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yes but your also missing 2 core 4 thread for use in anything but gaming. persay streaming or workload

muted patio Dec 29, 2019, 8:14 PM

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With an H500 for a case too

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those have poor airflow

polar holly Dec 29, 2019, 8:15 PM

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like at the point you need a 2080ti you are wanting to be atleast at a 3700x uptil then you not going need it

little osprey Dec 29, 2019, 8:15 PM

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NZXT? I think the CM h500 hasdecent flow

cursive wharf Dec 29, 2019, 8:16 PM

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Dude was going Intel in the first place, to which I assumed was gaming only

little osprey Dec 29, 2019, 8:16 PM

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I know there are edge cases to 3600/2080 ti -or similar, but ofc rare

muted patio Dec 29, 2019, 8:16 PM

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NZXT H500yeah

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It's tiny

eager chasm Dec 29, 2019, 8:16 PM

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Nothing wrong with a 3600 and a 2080ti, unless the games are extremely multicore it won't make much of a difference

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Not unless you are doing like workload stuff ontop of gaming

polar holly Dec 29, 2019, 8:18 PM

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not saying theres anything wrong but why drop that much money for it when instead drop it to a 2080super and get a stronger 3700x

eager chasm Dec 29, 2019, 8:19 PM

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Because in gaming the higher power GPU and lower core CPU will still get more FPS

cursive wharf Dec 29, 2019, 8:19 PM

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Given that it was originally Intel I came to assume it was a gaming only build. As such 3600+2080Ti was the best for a $1700 budget

little osprey Dec 29, 2019, 8:19 PM

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If you're in the market to spend that far into the diminishing gains spectrum of GPU's - (2080 ti /$1200 GPU) - you shouldn't have to be pinching pennies to include a $300 3700x

muted patio Dec 29, 2019, 8:20 PM

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2070 super or 5700XT. Unless they have 4K, 2080TI is overkill. Especially with the other components.

little osprey Dec 29, 2019, 8:20 PM

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(Generally speaking - for the average gamer)

polar holly Dec 29, 2019, 8:20 PM

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unless your aming for 75+ 4k its not needed

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your pinching pennies for both a 3600, a b450 max board, a cheap cooler, and two sata drives

little osprey Dec 29, 2019, 8:22 PM

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75-80 avg fps on certain 4k games looks like drunk goggles imo - others like rocket league - perfectly fine, hard to notice.

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TBH - I didn't look at the original build, but sounds like everyone has the same consensus

polar holly Dec 29, 2019, 8:22 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YqHjGc this is the original

eager chasm Dec 29, 2019, 8:23 PM

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Dumb I'm gonna get that $190 4K 60FPS 50" TV in the spring if it's still priced like that

polar holly Dec 29, 2019, 8:23 PM

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what is the response time on it

eager chasm Dec 29, 2019, 8:23 PM

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Actually pretty decent

little osprey Dec 29, 2019, 8:23 PM

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Manufacturer response time is to be trusted like the 9900k's tdp = 95w. -usually

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Reviews bring me more confidence

eager chasm Dec 29, 2019, 8:24 PM

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It's made by sceptre, they make decent budget options

cursive wharf Dec 29, 2019, 8:24 PM

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Esp since it's G2G response time and not C2C

muted patio Dec 29, 2019, 8:24 PM

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RTings is a good place to check for any kind of display

little osprey Dec 29, 2019, 8:25 PM

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But depending on your intended usage and prefernce - any number of other specs/features could make it a frontpage deal

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I need to sticky my rtings/blurbusters/tftcentral copypasta in the #old-monitors-and-tv haha

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Anyone see the leaked 10th gen stuff that intel has to offer?

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so far https://rtings.com has shown to be reasonably honest and unbiased with reviews, they claim to buy store units, and never accept cherry picked review units.

RTINGS.com

Reviews and Ratings

Find the best products for your needs, based on our reviews, ratings and recommendations.

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Seasonic makes reviewers buy from stores as well btw

muted patio Dec 29, 2019, 8:26 PM

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And that is why I go to them for all my TV/display reviews

polar holly Dec 29, 2019, 8:27 PM

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i have seen the leaks but wouldnt trust them until they get more concrete

muted patio Dec 29, 2019, 8:27 PM

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Leaks aren't to be trusted

little osprey Dec 29, 2019, 8:27 PM

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I'm thinking it's pretty real, But ya know it could be fake. It's really disappointing

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wfctech leaks can sometimes sound like 3am #building-and-recc-chat peanut gallery haha

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Lmao

proud galleon Dec 29, 2019, 8:35 PM

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going from https://pcpartpicker.com/list/b3gxf9 to https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yPgxf9

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rip my paychecks

eager chasm Dec 29, 2019, 8:37 PM

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no NVMe? 😮

mossy citrus Dec 29, 2019, 8:37 PM

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Nice

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I wish i had that

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I use a 6 yr old imac

eager chasm Dec 29, 2019, 8:38 PM

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Hellmo

mossy citrus Dec 29, 2019, 8:38 PM

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Yep

eager chasm Dec 29, 2019, 8:38 PM

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a MAC..... BURN IT

mossy citrus Dec 29, 2019, 8:38 PM

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Thats accurate

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My parents wont let me

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I almost have 400 dollars

proud galleon Dec 29, 2019, 8:39 PM

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@eager chasm might consider getting one but i already have the two on there so i stuck with those for now

eager chasm Dec 29, 2019, 8:40 PM

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$400 will build a nice integrated graphics build with AMD stuff.. but you'd still need a monitor

mossy citrus Dec 29, 2019, 8:40 PM

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U can use a imac as a monitor

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My old school does that

proud galleon Dec 29, 2019, 8:42 PM

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My build I have now is just over $400 (maybe $500 range) and it runs new titles just fine, with only an occasional dip below 60 fps.

You can go a long way with that amount if you save a little more

mossy citrus Dec 29, 2019, 8:43 PM

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Yea

proud galleon Dec 29, 2019, 8:43 PM

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guess it depends on what you play as well but yee

mossy citrus Dec 29, 2019, 8:44 PM

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Lol my dad and i both kno we need a new computer but he wont go custom

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We found a great deal and i would put in a good gpu, but it has a bad psu

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And i changed mymmind

proud galleon Dec 29, 2019, 8:46 PM

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once i went custom, i never went back (granted i’ve only been custom for maybe 2 yrs), but it’s beyond worth it

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i didn’t know squat about hardware but that’s pretty much all i ever think about now along with upgrades etc.

mossy citrus Dec 29, 2019, 8:47 PM

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Lol

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The prebuilt has these specs (besides the psu) for 500

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And case

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WMLBvW

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But like, i can top that with ryzen

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Z8W8Zf

proud galleon Dec 29, 2019, 8:53 PM

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yeah there’s plenty of options, and if you ever like to price hunt, Facebook Marketplace and plenty of other sites will sometimes have a gold mine of deals on those parts or even better

uncut surge Dec 29, 2019, 8:54 PM

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what is the deferens between all the rtx 2080 super cards

cursive wharf Dec 29, 2019, 8:58 PM

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@proud galleon that case doesn't seem to have nice airflow. Went with the best components I could go but had to change case form factor
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DpN7wh

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Ah wait nvm, I used 16gb RAM and not 32gb

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But given that I assume it's a gaming build that shouldnt matter. If not the case then why 9700k?

proud galleon Dec 29, 2019, 9:01 PM

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I’ve already got the case, psu, and mobo (and storage from current build), but it is a gaming build

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I’ve thought about going with the 9600k but I plan on upgrading continuously as I go, so I figure why not

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I guess I’m a huge nerd for overkill and future-proofing.

cursive wharf Dec 29, 2019, 9:04 PM

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I mean realistically speaking selling the mobo and getting Ryzen is more future proof due to longer support of the platform. But meh. 9700k will last quite a while

muted patio Dec 29, 2019, 9:05 PM

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Well, Next year Ryzen is going to a new socket with Zen 3 so....

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not for much longer

polar holly Dec 29, 2019, 9:05 PM

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the am4 is coming to an end at the end of 2020

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gen 4 will be the last garunteed compatible on it

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supposedly

muted patio Dec 29, 2019, 9:06 PM

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Yeah sorry

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Zen 3 is AM4

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Zen 4 is not

polar holly Dec 29, 2019, 9:07 PM

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yeah so the upgradability is almost to an end for am4

eager chasm Dec 29, 2019, 9:13 PM

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They already stretched AM4 far past what was thought possible before.

polar holly Dec 29, 2019, 9:13 PM

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they promised till q3 2020

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when am4 started

little osprey Dec 29, 2019, 9:14 PM

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I've benched the 2080 ti on 2500k/7700k/3700x/9700k/9900k -
Personal prefernce - 9700k feels nicer vs 3700x.
I tell people 3700x for plug+play/upgrade potential on x570, 9700k/z390 for OC fun

polar holly Dec 29, 2019, 9:15 PM

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for gaming it will be better to go ninth gen intel if your trying to do more than gaming the 3700x will help more

foggy hazel Dec 29, 2019, 9:16 PM

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there is a good chance that zen3 will be a dual stack of sockets

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because yes, am4 is getting old

eager chasm Dec 29, 2019, 9:17 PM

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If Intel don't also push IPC gains or clock gains next gen they have a real chance of falling behind in even gaming with this next gen Oh_No

foggy hazel Dec 29, 2019, 9:17 PM

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yes/no

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yes in the informed consumer space

polar holly Dec 29, 2019, 9:17 PM

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zen 3 is looking to better do cache and ipc. Not looking to go dual socket

foggy hazel Dec 29, 2019, 9:18 PM

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no in the regular consumer space

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re:dual socket: you misunderstand.

muted patio Dec 29, 2019, 9:18 PM

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Zen 3 is reporting 17% IPC and 25% floating point in early runs

foggy hazel Dec 29, 2019, 9:18 PM

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rumours Bekora :)

muted patio Dec 29, 2019, 9:18 PM

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I can't see a dual stack socket

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I can see a larger socket with more pins and a bigger heat spreader

eager chasm Dec 29, 2019, 9:19 PM

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With how AMD has been performing year over year those rumors aren't as far flung as one might think

foggy hazel Dec 29, 2019, 9:19 PM

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lets say that they decide that zen3 on am4 tops out at 32 cores

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zen3 on am5 could go further

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time will tell

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Ryoku / there is a limit to how high you can go. and sooner or later a vendor will stumble.

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it has happended to all of them, multiple times

polar holly Dec 29, 2019, 9:20 PM

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am5 is looking at zen4 while the end of am4 will be zen3

foggy hazel Dec 29, 2019, 9:21 PM

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that is the rumour yes

eager chasm Dec 29, 2019, 9:21 PM

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It's not roumor Zen 3 on AM4 is their product road map

little osprey Dec 29, 2019, 9:21 PM

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Without resintalling windows etc? Nice - check device manager and enable view hidden devices - it's funny to see both cpu.

foggy hazel Dec 29, 2019, 9:22 PM

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yes, and roadmaps change Ryoko, we wont know until they announce products

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my stance, in case it seems confusing to people, is this: Wait and see. There are too many people with an interest in swaying you.

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being caught up in the hype is imo a waste of time.

eager chasm Dec 29, 2019, 9:27 PM

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It's not really hype, information has been accurate since the whole Ryzen line started, and the road map has been adhered to almost religiously so far. At the current time there is no reason to not take some information with a smaller grain of salt, but still a gain of salt

foggy hazel Dec 29, 2019, 9:29 PM

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the IPC info is currently a rumour. (yes i know it was not you that mentioned that Ryoku)

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and i doubt that amd expected intel to not have a response

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as i said, time will tell.

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another Conroe would be a pleasant surprise :)

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(Core2Duo for those that might not know it by the Conroe name)

eager chasm Dec 29, 2019, 9:31 PM

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It's pretty clear if Intel can't get their innovations back on track they are going to fall behind. It's no secret that they've been struggling to shrink and improve meaningfully

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14nm++++++++++++ can only go so far

foggy hazel Dec 29, 2019, 9:31 PM

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as i said earlier, yes and no

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until their bottom line actually starts to hurt. They are not in trouble

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and we are still a ways away from that

eager chasm Dec 29, 2019, 9:33 PM

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I'm not talking about their financial situation, I'm just talking strictly performance

little osprey Dec 29, 2019, 9:33 PM

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^^truth - I still find it hard to believe how fast 2500k/2600k's were for their time, not to mention x58's lineup of chips.

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Then intel sat on their hands until coffee lake

foggy hazel Dec 29, 2019, 9:33 PM

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it might seem silly to the desktop people, but intel is king of laptops

little osprey Dec 29, 2019, 9:33 PM

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TBH - skylake x was cool, but x99 was warm garbage

foggy hazel Dec 29, 2019, 9:33 PM

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and the laptop market is gigantic

little osprey Dec 29, 2019, 9:34 PM

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If only skylake x refresh and cascade lake weren't so lukewarm

short basalt Dec 29, 2019, 9:34 PM

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Is Intel actually the king of laptops? I'm not so sure

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linus tech tips shows something different

eager chasm Dec 29, 2019, 9:34 PM

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With AMDs putting out less heat they are looking more appealing as laptop parts as time goes on Dumb

foggy hazel Dec 29, 2019, 9:34 PM

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yes, for the odd single model System64

little osprey Dec 29, 2019, 9:34 PM

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Currently - ya, kinda still - AMD is a gen behind on core arch for somer chips in the 3000 series, e.g. the 3400g is zen+ as well as the 3700H? in the laptop platoform

foggy hazel Dec 29, 2019, 9:35 PM

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the moment that someone at a serious biz can go and purchase a full lineup of laptops from top to bottom with amd chips in them, is when intel is in trouble.

eager chasm Dec 29, 2019, 9:36 PM

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My dad's laptop is AMD Dumb

foggy hazel Dec 29, 2019, 9:36 PM

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full lineup= thin&light, workstation and everything in between.

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@little osprey everything with a gpu in it is a gen behind on the cpu arch

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that is the way they have decided to roll it out (sadly)

eager chasm Dec 29, 2019, 9:37 PM

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Still not bad parts for what they are

foggy hazel Dec 29, 2019, 9:37 PM

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no no, not bad

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just not workable in some segments

little osprey Dec 29, 2019, 9:38 PM

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As with all pc stuff - few parts are truly bad - it's usually jus tthe price

In the case of the 3200g - that's fantastic for a non-gaming machine

foggy hazel Dec 29, 2019, 9:38 PM

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currently, the b450 replacement cant come fast enough

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because a scaled down chipset would do wonders in perception

old charm Dec 29, 2019, 9:56 PM

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are there any guides or anything on how exactly you are to "clean out" your pc?

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I am a smoker and I guess I need to worry about that in the future

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I know those pressurized air cans are used a lot

eager chasm Dec 29, 2019, 9:59 PM

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microfiber cloths are you friend

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cigs are not lol

old charm Dec 29, 2019, 9:59 PM

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yeah

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but you would reccommend that over the pressurized air?

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i don't smoke cigaretes

muted patio Dec 29, 2019, 10:00 PM

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STill gonna get tar and residue build up

old charm Dec 29, 2019, 10:00 PM

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in my pc?

muted patio Dec 29, 2019, 10:00 PM

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Yes, smoke sinks

eager chasm Dec 29, 2019, 10:01 PM

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don't smoke near it

muted patio Dec 29, 2019, 10:01 PM

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Gets sucked into the fans

eager chasm Dec 29, 2019, 10:01 PM

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lol

old charm Dec 29, 2019, 10:01 PM

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okay noted

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i didn't know if it was cool or not

eager chasm Dec 29, 2019, 10:01 PM

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Dumb brownies dont get the same damaging effects to electronics

old charm Dec 29, 2019, 10:02 PM

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yeah except those are expensive as heck to make

muted patio Dec 29, 2019, 10:02 PM

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It's just going to cause dust to stick to things a bit worse

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Intake screens help

eager chasm Dec 29, 2019, 10:03 PM

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your PC is more expensive 😉

old charm Dec 29, 2019, 10:04 PM

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ill just smoke in the other room

tranquil dust Dec 29, 2019, 10:08 PM

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How to get money: part 1

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Work

mossy citrus Dec 29, 2019, 10:23 PM

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Hi

cursive wharf Dec 29, 2019, 11:03 PM

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@old charm I'd say smoke outside. So that nothing gets in the furniture either. Can help give a clearer mind depending on who you are, better for the guests, and really really helps resale value

tranquil dust Dec 29, 2019, 11:39 PM

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???

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Y’all smoke?

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~~vaping is the new cool~~

woven horizon Dec 29, 2019, 11:49 PM

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I vape son 🙂

tranquil dust Dec 29, 2019, 11:52 PM

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I don’t cuz I’m healthy 😎😎😎

tight bluff Dec 29, 2019, 11:55 PM

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Vaping should be a criminal offence.

tranquil dust Dec 29, 2019, 11:57 PM

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No u

woven horizon Dec 29, 2019, 11:57 PM

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i smoked for 10 years and quit by vaping and my lungs feel and look healthy

tight bluff Dec 29, 2019, 11:58 PM

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Vaping originally was fine. It was a good concept. Then hipsters got to it.

woven horizon Dec 29, 2019, 11:58 PM

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RIP

tight bluff Dec 29, 2019, 11:58 PM

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Hipsters vaping is a good advert to smoke instead of vape.

woven horizon Dec 29, 2019, 11:59 PM

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smoking=tar vaping=vapor

tight bluff Dec 30, 2019, 12:02 AM

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Gonna get back on my penny farthing.

woven horizon Dec 30, 2019, 12:02 AM

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Ditto

tranquil dust Dec 30, 2019, 12:06 AM

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Now vaping kills people

sacred obsidian Dec 30, 2019, 12:06 AM

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i originally did, but i dont mind the whole hobby around vaping becasue thats a thing for tobacco, alcohol, marijuanna, all that. People turn stuff into a hobby.

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also vaping illegal marijuanna cartirdges that you don't know whats in it, kills people. vaping has proven to be much healthier than any form of traditional cigarettes, however vaping should not be done unless it is to replace cigarettes. its a healthier alternative, but not healthy

tranquil dust Dec 30, 2019, 12:07 AM

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Vaping is a hobby... that’s new

tight bluff Dec 30, 2019, 12:07 AM

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There's support groups for people who turn alcohol into a hobby

woven horizon Dec 30, 2019, 12:07 AM

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vaping fake cannabis is killing people

tranquil dust Dec 30, 2019, 12:08 AM

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Why do we b talking about this

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Dis don’t seem kool

tight bluff Dec 30, 2019, 12:08 AM

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A support group for vapers should be a firing squad of sorts.

sacred obsidian Dec 30, 2019, 12:08 AM

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no theres support groups for people who cant not drink alcohol. I don't ever drink at all (literally once a year maybe) but i still love making mead and wine

tranquil dust Dec 30, 2019, 12:09 AM

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Meh I tried beer and it tastes like crap so I’m prob not gonna drink

sacred obsidian Dec 30, 2019, 12:09 AM

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i just dont like getting drunk lol.

tight bluff Dec 30, 2019, 12:10 AM

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When you drink enough, you no longer really get drunk

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It's like unlocking the final perk in the tree

mossy citrus Dec 30, 2019, 1:54 AM

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tf

olive hollow Dec 30, 2019, 2:49 AM

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Quick question, can you put a normal 3-pin fan into the rgb fan connector on a mother board?

little osprey Dec 30, 2019, 2:51 AM

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Don't do that - you mean the 4 pin rgb header? Post pics if unsure - a mismatch can short/damage and make the magic blue smoke.

olive hollow Dec 30, 2019, 2:52 AM

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Well I’m not currently home but on my motherboard there is a spot for a rgb fan header. I was wondering if putting a normal fan without rgb would work

cursive wharf Dec 30, 2019, 2:56 AM

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there is no RGB fan header. Only a fan header or RGB header. There are 3 and 4 pin of both headers

olive hollow Dec 30, 2019, 2:56 AM

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📎 image0.png

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Okay so I marked what I’m talking about, I’m not the best with computers but I still know some of my stuff. It’s labeled as a rgb fan spot, can I put a normal fan there?

cursive wharf Dec 30, 2019, 2:58 AM

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Labeled as "AMD_FAN_LED1"

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can be considered as "[COMPANY]_[OBJECT]_LED1"

olive hollow Dec 30, 2019, 2:59 AM

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Damn, so I read it completely wrong

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I’m blind

cursive wharf Dec 30, 2019, 2:59 AM

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fine print is rather hard sometimes

olive hollow Dec 30, 2019, 3:00 AM

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Yeah it is 😂

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But could I put a normal fan there or no?

cursive wharf Dec 30, 2019, 3:01 AM

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no. It's for LEDs only

olive hollow Dec 30, 2019, 3:01 AM

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I gotcha, thank you

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Sorry that I’m slightly dumb and blind

cursive wharf Dec 30, 2019, 3:02 AM

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no problem. We all go like that sometimes

olive hollow Dec 30, 2019, 3:03 AM

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So if I wanted to add more fans should I get a fan splitter?

raven chasm Dec 30, 2019, 3:50 AM

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Hey excuse me, not sure if this is the right place to ask, but
I have a base RX 5700 XT, and it has a static red LED, but im trying to change the color or hide it?
is there something like a side GPU plate? I know that backplates exist

cursive wharf Dec 30, 2019, 3:53 AM

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@olive hollow yeah you'll need a splitter

cobalt oar Dec 30, 2019, 3:55 AM

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New guy here, looking to make my first build here soon. But i was only looking to spend around $500, i understand that for that i wont get AAA games to play great.

cursive wharf Dec 30, 2019, 4:04 AM

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looking to do streaming?

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is it going to be pure gaming?

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meh CPU+decent GPU: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BJVQyk
decent CPU+meh GPU: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CM83Rk
@little osprey which do you think would be best for pure gaming? Maybe OC the CPU a bit cuz Zen is easy to OC

little osprey Dec 30, 2019, 4:08 AM

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Budget build part choice is so heavily determined by what's on sale at the time IMO. I'd actually just prioritize a mobo with a very strong community satisfaction rate

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Most people won't miss 400mhz on the cpu clock, but a bricked board because of silly bugs/mistakes w/e is no fun

cursive wharf Dec 30, 2019, 4:09 AM

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Havent heard of VDH having issues tho

little osprey Dec 30, 2019, 4:10 AM

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That's a nice price on the 1650 super , thoes have the Turing encoder, yes?

cursive wharf Dec 30, 2019, 4:10 AM

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yeah

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only 1650 non super is the pathetic kind

little osprey Dec 30, 2019, 4:11 AM

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I don't know a thing about that board - but I do know the borads buildzoid endorsed are like $20 more - and I know that people flocked to buy them because builidzoid. That alone (they're also good boards haha) creates a huge support community.

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B450/m gaming plus, the tomahwak, and maybe a few others.

cursive wharf Dec 30, 2019, 4:12 AM

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Feel like if they had issues it'd be a bit more known

little osprey Dec 30, 2019, 4:17 AM

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Oh, ya looking at reviews, that seems to be a great option - MSI really nailed b450

sacred obsidian Dec 30, 2019, 4:40 AM

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Wait you’ve had boards get bricked? I’ve always assumed mobo brand is the least important part of a build and literally choose based on position and amount of components vs price cause I’ve gotten some super cheap boards and never had an issue with em

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For me the items I go cheap on are mobos and cases. Never bought a case more than 60 bucks lol.

little osprey Dec 30, 2019, 4:48 AM

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Yes, but only once in 2008 haha. I base that recommendation on the masses of upset users posting their problems on the forums/reddit etc.

sacred obsidian Dec 30, 2019, 4:56 AM

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I’ve had a mobo be doa once but that was the worst of it lol

strange violet Dec 30, 2019, 11:15 AM

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I just added a 5.1 stereo surround card to my system

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My next step is to buy the sound system and wall mounts to go all around my room and finish it

eager chasm Dec 30, 2019, 12:08 PM

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Good luck :)

muted dawn Dec 30, 2019, 2:33 PM

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Will these fans https://www.umart.com.au/Silverstone-Air-Blazer-120mm-ARGB-Fan-with-Controller---3-Pack_53335G.html be able to hook up to my motherboard? Asrock b450m pro4-f

Silverstone Air Blazer 120mm ARGB Fan with Controller - 3 Pack - U...

Buy Silverstone Air Blazer 120mm ARGB Fan with Controller - 3 Pack - Umart.com.au Fast-Shipping & Pick-Up

eager chasm Dec 30, 2019, 2:54 PM

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@muted dawn they should

sudden turret Dec 30, 2019, 4:39 PM

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nice board, it has both RGB and ARGB header

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(4 pin and 3 pin)

normal cloud Dec 30, 2019, 4:50 PM

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@muted patio it was a monitor issue i got the new monitor today and the artifacts dont appear

muted patio Dec 30, 2019, 4:50 PM

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Thanks for the update!!

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Learned something on that one, typically that's a GPU issue or a driver issue

normal cloud Dec 30, 2019, 4:51 PM

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ps. dont buy the cheapest monitor on amazon

foggy hazel Dec 30, 2019, 4:54 PM

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@muted patio share?

muted patio Dec 30, 2019, 4:54 PM

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Artifacting in game menus

foggy hazel Dec 30, 2019, 4:55 PM

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so, in uncapped framerate scenarios?

muted patio Dec 30, 2019, 4:56 PM

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Not sure about uncapped for all of them but any in-game menu

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From Minecraft to CODMW

foggy hazel Dec 30, 2019, 4:57 PM

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k

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@normal cloud could you link what monitor you had and what you got today?

muted patio Dec 30, 2019, 4:57 PM

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We tested it with their TV to determine it was a monitor issue

foggy hazel Dec 30, 2019, 4:58 PM

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aye

muted patio Dec 30, 2019, 4:58 PM

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TV, no artifacts. Monitor, artifacts.

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weird

foggy hazel Dec 30, 2019, 4:58 PM

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hdmi only monitor?

muted patio Dec 30, 2019, 4:58 PM

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Don't know, it was connected via HDMI yeah

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not sure if it had DVI or not

foggy hazel Dec 30, 2019, 4:59 PM

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hm

normal cloud Dec 30, 2019, 4:59 PM

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it was HDMI

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the monitor is spectre

foggy hazel Dec 30, 2019, 4:59 PM

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mind, this is pure curiosity, but could you find the model number of the old and the new?

normal cloud Dec 30, 2019, 4:59 PM

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https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07GD7H18F/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

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thats my new ill try to find my olkd

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https://www.amazon.com/Sceptre-E248W-19203R-Monitor-Speakers-Metallic/dp/B0773ZY26F/ref=sr_1_2_sspa?crid=3JF3KEPJNRAZI&keywords=sceptre+monitor&qid=1577725216&s=electronics&sprefix=Sceptre%2Celectronics%2C138&sr=1-2-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUFBNEs0TEZSWEo0SzAmZW5jcnlwdGVkSWQ9QTA1MjA2NDAyQTdIUEFUWExNU08zJmVuY3J5cHRlZEFkSWQ9QTA5Njc4MjEzMVpEN08zTTgyR1c1JndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfYXRmJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ==

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this is my old

foggy hazel Dec 30, 2019, 5:00 PM

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thank you

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the new one, are you still using hdmi?

normal cloud Dec 30, 2019, 5:02 PM

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dp

foggy hazel Dec 30, 2019, 5:03 PM

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could i persuade you to turn of your machine, plug in hdmi again. and try again?

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(so that hdmi is the only cable plugged)

normal cloud Dec 30, 2019, 5:03 PM

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just give me a couple minutes

foggy hazel Dec 30, 2019, 5:04 PM

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@muted patio for seeing if it is the "type" that the hdmi sees on the other end

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no rush @normal cloud

normal cloud Dec 30, 2019, 5:12 PM

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Alright

foggy hazel Dec 30, 2019, 5:15 PM

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just give a shout whenever you have tried it :)

normal cloud Dec 30, 2019, 5:15 PM

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yea i did

foggy hazel Dec 30, 2019, 5:15 PM

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and it works without artifacts?

normal cloud Dec 30, 2019, 5:16 PM

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on the old monitor there are artifacts but on the new one there isnt

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using hdmi

foggy hazel Dec 30, 2019, 5:16 PM

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okay

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fair enough :)

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thank you for humouring me :)

normal cloud Dec 30, 2019, 5:16 PM

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trash monitor huh

foggy hazel Dec 30, 2019, 5:16 PM

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looks like it

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could also just be an unlucky part

upper condor Dec 30, 2019, 6:23 PM

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Hey guys, I just put together a pc on pcpartpicker and wanna know if its components are all good

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I made it all rgb on purpose by the way

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2qhXf9

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The AIO is because I wanna do some extreme overclocking

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And I might get 16gb ram instead and a 1tb ssd

muted patio Dec 30, 2019, 6:26 PM

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Please choose a different case

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The H510 has poor cooling and air flow

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get something with at least two fans on the top

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No real need for 32 GB of ram unless you're doing heavy video editing, etc

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Do you plan to stream with this or just play games?

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@upper condor

upper condor Dec 30, 2019, 6:28 PM

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Might do some light streaming

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Thanks for telling me about that case, saw good reviews for a good price

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Any recommendations then?

muted patio Dec 30, 2019, 6:29 PM

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nVidia is good for streaming, AMD is good for pure gaming

upper condor Dec 30, 2019, 6:29 PM

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I saw that, but I dont know how bad monitors are without g-sync or free-sync and g-sync monitors are super expensive

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Or at least ones I've found

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@muted patio any case recommendations then?

muted patio Dec 30, 2019, 6:31 PM

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I'm getting there, hang on

upper condor Dec 30, 2019, 6:31 PM

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Thanks a ton!

muted patio Dec 30, 2019, 6:31 PM

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I have two I'd recommend

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https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B074Q5MFX5/?tag=thowisguy-20&th=1

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https://www.amazon.com/Fractal-Design-Meshify-TG-Lt/dp/B07B39HBV2/?tag=thowisguy-20&th=1

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Also, no real need for 32 GB of ram honestly. 16 should do you fine

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Can save a little there

upper condor Dec 30, 2019, 6:33 PM

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Yeah

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I can upgrade ram later

muted patio Dec 30, 2019, 6:33 PM

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I have 16 GB and game and stream on occasion with no issues

upper condor Dec 30, 2019, 6:33 PM

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Yeah

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But the other issue is, nvidia cards tend to be more expensive

muted patio Dec 30, 2019, 6:34 PM

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They do but their encoder for streaming is top of the heap

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AMD's is honestly garbage

upper condor Dec 30, 2019, 6:34 PM

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So should I downgrade my gpu then?

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To a ryzen 7 2700x?

muted patio Dec 30, 2019, 6:34 PM

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No

latent bronze Dec 30, 2019, 6:34 PM

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You mean CPU

muted patio Dec 30, 2019, 6:34 PM

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You have a 1080p monitor

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So

upper condor Dec 30, 2019, 6:34 PM

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CPU sorry

muted patio Dec 30, 2019, 6:35 PM

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if you want to stream well, an RTX2060 is a good choice

upper condor Dec 30, 2019, 6:35 PM

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Mk

muted patio Dec 30, 2019, 6:35 PM

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Plenty of HP there

upper condor Dec 30, 2019, 6:35 PM

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Let me revise my parts for a sec

latent bronze Dec 30, 2019, 6:35 PM

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For 1080p could go lower with a 1660 Super or 1660 Ti

muted patio Dec 30, 2019, 6:35 PM

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Like I said, it depends on how much or how seriously you want to stream

upper condor Dec 30, 2019, 6:36 PM

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Does the pro-m have fans preinstalled?

muted patio Dec 30, 2019, 6:36 PM

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Yes

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2x140mm

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I'd put the AIO at the top and leave the 140mm as intake

latent bronze Dec 30, 2019, 6:38 PM

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I got a case suggestion as well

upper condor Dec 30, 2019, 6:38 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2qhXf9

latent bronze Dec 30, 2019, 6:38 PM

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and it comes with 4 fans

upper condor Dec 30, 2019, 6:38 PM

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Yes?

latent bronze Dec 30, 2019, 6:38 PM

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https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16811147300

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4 addressable RGB fans

muted patio Dec 30, 2019, 6:38 PM

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Top exhaust 1 or two fans?

upper condor Dec 30, 2019, 6:38 PM

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Is it software?

latent bronze Dec 30, 2019, 6:39 PM

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top is 2

muted patio Dec 30, 2019, 6:39 PM

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That partpicker link is the same as the old one

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😉

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Rosewill case then

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That's a nice one

upper condor Dec 30, 2019, 6:39 PM

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Oh shoot

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One sec

latent bronze Dec 30, 2019, 6:39 PM

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@upper condor it is hardware or software

upper condor Dec 30, 2019, 6:40 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/G88ck6

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Yes

latent bronze Dec 30, 2019, 6:40 PM

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hardware there would be a button on the case and software would be from your motherboard

muted patio Dec 30, 2019, 6:40 PM

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I think if you swap to that Rosewill case it'd be a fine gaming PC

vestal cove Dec 30, 2019, 6:40 PM

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Ddr4 ram went back up

latent bronze Dec 30, 2019, 6:41 PM

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@muted patio If you look at the case more you can see all drives are hidden

muted patio Dec 30, 2019, 6:41 PM

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Yep, I had a look at it

upper condor Dec 30, 2019, 6:41 PM

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Yeah because I'd rather have a low price good thermal fan with no rgb

muted patio Dec 30, 2019, 6:41 PM

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Adding it to my recommendations

upper condor Dec 30, 2019, 6:41 PM

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Because all my parts are super rgb

muted patio Dec 30, 2019, 6:41 PM

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That's a good case with good airflow

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Mount the AIO at the top

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It'll look slick

upper condor Dec 30, 2019, 6:42 PM

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Yeah

muted patio Dec 30, 2019, 6:42 PM

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AIO top exhaust I should say

vestal cove Dec 30, 2019, 6:42 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wKQvRk

latent bronze Dec 30, 2019, 6:42 PM

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This is the one i am using lol https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16811147298

upper condor Dec 30, 2019, 6:42 PM

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Do I need the AIO or could I go for a cheaper high quality air?

vestal cove Dec 30, 2019, 6:42 PM

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The aio is gonna be a tight fit

muted patio Dec 30, 2019, 6:42 PM

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You could go air

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something like a Scythe Mugen 5 for $50

upper condor Dec 30, 2019, 6:42 PM

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@latent bronze awesome case

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Mhm

latent bronze Dec 30, 2019, 6:43 PM

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ya look at how you mount the AIO on this https://c1.neweggimages.com/NeweggImage/ProductImageCompressAll1280/11-147-298-V10.jpg

upper condor Dec 30, 2019, 6:43 PM

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Beautiful

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What are your specs then?

vestal cove Dec 30, 2019, 6:43 PM

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The case looks like it’s upside down

latent bronze Dec 30, 2019, 6:43 PM

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R5 2600 and a GTX 1660

muted patio Dec 30, 2019, 6:43 PM

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It is

upper condor Dec 30, 2019, 6:43 PM

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what's yours bekora

vestal cove Dec 30, 2019, 6:44 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wKQvRk

muted patio Dec 30, 2019, 6:44 PM

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NZXt H440

vestal cove Dec 30, 2019, 6:44 PM

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I wanna get the Corsair icue 220t

muted patio Dec 30, 2019, 6:44 PM

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No longer available

upper condor Dec 30, 2019, 6:44 PM

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OoF

latent bronze Dec 30, 2019, 6:44 PM

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@vestal cove It is like a retro case with a modern look

vestal cove Dec 30, 2019, 6:44 PM

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Comes with some rgb fans

muted patio Dec 30, 2019, 6:44 PM

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It's a nice case though

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which is why I haven't changed it

upper condor Dec 30, 2019, 6:44 PM

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What about your gpu and cpu?

muted patio Dec 30, 2019, 6:45 PM

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3700x/RTX2060

vestal cove Dec 30, 2019, 6:45 PM

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i5 9600k with rtx 2060

upper condor Dec 30, 2019, 6:45 PM

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Yeah I've bullilt before but for friends

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Built*

vestal cove Dec 30, 2019, 6:45 PM

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Im just gonna wait till the gpu drops price

muted patio Dec 30, 2019, 6:45 PM

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Here's my build

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/d4QBq3

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not RGB friendly though lol

upper condor Dec 30, 2019, 6:45 PM

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Yeah probably

latent bronze Dec 30, 2019, 6:46 PM

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I am changing my motherboard and memory to this https://pcpartpicker.com/list/m49VpG

vestal cove Dec 30, 2019, 6:46 PM

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Seems like a lot of storage

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@muted patio

muted patio Dec 30, 2019, 6:46 PM

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My wife does photos

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So my PC is essentially a backup server

latent bronze Dec 30, 2019, 6:46 PM

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I want a all white with RGB build lol

vestal cove Dec 30, 2019, 6:46 PM

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15tb

upper condor Dec 30, 2019, 6:46 PM

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Bekora chill on the storage

muted patio Dec 30, 2019, 6:47 PM

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She has a photog business lol

upper condor Dec 30, 2019, 6:47 PM

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Oh ok

vestal cove Dec 30, 2019, 6:47 PM

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14tb hdd

muted patio Dec 30, 2019, 6:47 PM

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RAW images are huge files

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8 TB external is backup for everything else

upper condor Dec 30, 2019, 6:47 PM

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Yeah

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That is actually a really good build for that price

muted patio Dec 30, 2019, 6:47 PM

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Tx

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It's been upgraded over the years part by part

upper condor Dec 30, 2019, 6:48 PM

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Yeah

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My PC is a christmas gift I got 2000 dollars for everything

latent bronze Dec 30, 2019, 6:48 PM

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@muted patio from my case if you look the glass comes off a little different than most others

upper condor Dec 30, 2019, 6:48 PM

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Already have a headset tho

muted patio Dec 30, 2019, 6:48 PM

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Hinged glass

upper condor Dec 30, 2019, 6:49 PM

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But do monitors using v-sync work I've heard it kinda sucks

muted patio Dec 30, 2019, 6:49 PM

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V-sync?

upper condor Dec 30, 2019, 6:49 PM

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Yeah

muted patio Dec 30, 2019, 6:49 PM

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Gsync or Freezync is better

upper condor Dec 30, 2019, 6:49 PM

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I know

muted patio Dec 30, 2019, 6:49 PM

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Vsync can give issues

vestal cove Dec 30, 2019, 6:49 PM

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I have free sync on my monitor

upper condor Dec 30, 2019, 6:49 PM

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G-Sync monitors are sooooo expensive

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Compared to freesync at least

muted patio Dec 30, 2019, 6:50 PM

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basically V-sync is a fixed refresh rate where the others are variable

upper condor Dec 30, 2019, 6:50 PM

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Yeah

muted patio Dec 30, 2019, 6:50 PM

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nVidia works with freesync

latent bronze Dec 30, 2019, 6:50 PM

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just got to use display port instead of HDMI

upper condor Dec 30, 2019, 6:50 PM

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I heard that but I dont know if that's with every monitor

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I heard it's only on some

vestal cove Dec 30, 2019, 6:51 PM

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I think it’s better if you use display port after you over lock

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Overclock*

tranquil dust Dec 30, 2019, 6:51 PM

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Clock

latent bronze Dec 30, 2019, 6:51 PM

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It is pretty much every monitor that has a display port cause even the one i want i checked the main site and it says it works

muted patio Dec 30, 2019, 6:51 PM

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Yep

upper condor Dec 30, 2019, 6:51 PM

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Oh ok

tranquil dust Dec 30, 2019, 6:51 PM

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Did anyone see LSUs sweet dub yesterday

latent bronze Dec 30, 2019, 6:51 PM

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This is the monitor i want https://www.newegg.ca/p/N82E16824116781

vestal cove Dec 30, 2019, 6:51 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wKQvRk