#building-and-recc-chat

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median sail
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And 8700k

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8 was looking at a 9700k

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narrow rose
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thats silly

median sail
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9900k

narrow rose
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oh the 9900k would be an upgrade

median sail
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Is better

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Yea

narrow rose
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but dont go from a 8700k to a 9700k

median sail
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I want to go all out on this pc

little osprey
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i say just use that system until its old

median sail
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I want to have a showroom pc

little osprey
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then get a ryzen build

median sail
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I have 3 triple rads and 12 rgb fans and 32 gb 3600mhz ram. And taking my 1080tk from old system and getting a 9900k possibly

narrow rose
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personally I would upgrade the ram and board and keep the 8700k maybe get it delided

median sail
narrow rose
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slightly bias because my two main PCs have 8700k's and I cant see a good reason to upgrade

median sail
narrow rose
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how high can that 8700k overclock?

median sail
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I have mine at 4.7 but I only have a single rad aio

narrow rose
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280mm?

median sail
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140

narrow rose
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ah ok

median sail
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Yea

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But 3 triple rads will be overkill on new

narrow rose
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I think you should keep the 8700k get some tridentz rgb ram a new motherboard and make a custom hard tube loop with 2 480mm rads and a res. If you skip the cpu think how much more money you could spend on cooling and other things

eager chasm
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I like how the Ryzen 3000 series basically comes auto-overclocked with it's insane infinite boosting

median sail
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My case can’t fit 2 480s

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Only 1

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In front

narrow rose
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new case too

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well really only need 1 if not cooling gpu and even then still probably ok

median sail
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I’m cooling both

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Water block will be here tomorrow

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I think I got too small of tubing

narrow rose
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I just use EKs site to make sure everything matches

median sail
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I mean it does

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It’s just I feel I should have got bigger tubing

narrow rose
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hmm flexable or hard tubing?

median sail
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Flex

narrow rose
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at least thats cheap if you do need to change it

median sail
narrow rose
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see how it fits into a fitting

median sail
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I mean fitting and tube are same size

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But I mean I think I should have gone thicker

narrow rose
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ah

median sail
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For how much liquid will be in my system

narrow rose
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well more flow this way

median sail
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And I feel my flow rate will be more slow

narrow rose
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depends on the pump only need to be around 0.75 gallons per minute

median sail
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Well I have the hydro line from corsair

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Except

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The gpu

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Because that line uses rtx

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But everything else is hydro series

narrow rose
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I dont really understand what that means

median sail
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Sec I’ll post

narrow rose
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rtx is ray tracing on nvidia cards

median sail
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this

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i have all of the parts except

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the gpu block for that series

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because im using 1080ti

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and that series is new for rtx cards

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but i have that pump

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and

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socket cooler

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with rads

narrow rose
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ok you should be ok I have never used corsairs custom loop products

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plus the soft is a smaller diameter on the inside of the tube than the hard tubing anyway so I'm sure corsair has acounted for that

inner drift
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Hey just a quick question about fans, I’m building a pc right now and the exhaust fan has three holes on the cord and the system fan place on the motherboard has four prongs, any help?

stoic island
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3pin can plug into 4 pin things

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4 pin is for pwn fans usually

inner drift
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Ah okay thank you!

jade grove
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3 pin is DC only, and while it can plug into a 4 pin, the 3 pin DC fand plugged into a 4 pin will likely be locked at 100% speed

inner drift
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That’s fine with me, turns out the case I bought was an oven

jade grove
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ah well if you dont mind the noise, that might be better anyway. what case do you have?

inner drift
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Masterbox q300l I believe

jade grove
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yea ive heard about bad thermals in that. like i said if you dont mind the noise itll be fine

eager chasm
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all my case fans are cheap 3 pin fans XD

inner drift
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I bought a pack of 3 Corsair fans for it though

stoic island
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(I mean what manufacturer want to spend extra monie for no reason)

inner drift
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True

eager chasm
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4 packs of Rosewill fans are the cheapest of the cheap fans, but still work well enough for most air cool systems

jade grove
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i found some 4 pin corsair fans but i dont remember what model they are

inner drift
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Probably the ll120 or ll140

jade grove
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theyre 12s so i think thats what they are. i bought them almost 2 years ago lol

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120s*

eager chasm
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i got a extra fan now... cause I didn't like the fan that came with my case at all

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it's a pretty nice fan... but it's static RED LEDs

jade grove
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i have 2 whites in front and 2 red on top. i kinda like the look of static colors no lie

eager chasm
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I do too, but I like to have RGB to say what static color I want XD

jade grove
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xD thats fair haha. i just wish my ram would co-operate with my software so i could change the color

eager chasm
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try adjusting it in a different software

jade grove
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ive tried all the "compatible" software for it

eager chasm
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odd

stoic island
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Which ram?

jade grove
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it worked for the first 2 or 3 days then nothing. it doesnt bother me TOO much but its just the small details lol

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trident z

old charm
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does it matter which way I mount my fan?

stoic island
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wierd

eager chasm
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one way is out and one way is in so yes

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if you mean rotation, no

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top or back is generally an outward fan, and front of the case is generally an inward fan

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the side of the fan should have an airflow indicator

old charm
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alright thanks

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I'm putting in a coolermaster

eager chasm
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ah then usually you aim the fan towards the back

old charm
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that was my plan

eager chasm
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where it can be vented by the rear

old charm
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I still have to figure out which way to glue it on the cpu

muted patio
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Doesn't matter, the cooler itself isn't directional, only the fans

olive kraken
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Hi pple, I am Kem. But whatever my disccord says it's fine. I'm a PC building noob. But I've always wanted to give it a try. Recently my excitement for building my own PC sparked for some reason. I've got a 3,000USD budget. Y'all think that's enough to get a descent set up including the tower, Monitor and peripherals?

eager chasm
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yes

jade grove
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you can set yourself up pretty good with 3k

stoic island
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3000 is a really nice setup

eager chasm
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I have a really good multi-monitor setup for $3000

olive kraken
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'-' i tho it'd be too low

eager chasm
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no that's actually on the high side

stoic island
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Most people have around 1500 or lower

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2000+ is high end

jade grove
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i got a pretty good setup for right around 1k with just mobo, ram, cpu, gpu and power supply

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and its running everything fine

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even while streaming

stoic island
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tbh you can prob get 9900k + 2080ti with 3000$

olive kraken
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Ah😅 I'm glad

jade grove
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the rest of it including desk and peripherals and desk only brings mine to like 1500 ish give or take

eager chasm
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if you are gonna do any streaming or video editing, get a Ryzen CPU, miles ahead in those kinds of things

stoic island
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Oh yea, whats the purpose you want the pc to serve?

olive kraken
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I plan to use it for gaming/ school but I will be going into college soon to learn CAD and stuff so like 3D modeling all that

eager chasm
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RYZEN!

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welcome to the red team 😄

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lol

stoic island
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ppl prob already starting to work on a list

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ima work on one too bc that sounds fun

jade grove
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lmao probably

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i was gonna do the same but am slightly preoccupied

stoic island
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3950 or 3900 what do yall think

eager chasm
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as much as I would love to shovel AMD down their throat... I'm going to bed

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night all

stoic island
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I'll do your job ryoku, gn.

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sadly high end amd GPUs are non-existant so nvidia time

inner drift
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Do I connect my case IO or my psu cables first

stoic island
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afaik either works

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I went with IO then psu

jade grove
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IO can be a pain with big hands if you do it last

olive kraken
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Well, let me know what you guys think. And what are your recommendations. I am pretty excited about this. Even tho all I know about PCs is basic stuff that I see on vids or stuff.

fossil hedge
jade grove
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thats where most of us started lol

eager chasm
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the build tutorial vids are good (except for the Verge)

jade grove
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same bud @fossil hedge

stoic island
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I would suggest 2080ti for sure, either a ryzen 3900x or a 3950x

olive kraken
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I plan on building myself, also my current Computer is a 2014 Laptop with Intel i-3 idk what gen but pretty big boost

fossil hedge
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keep doing it

jade grove
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psssshhhh verge tutorial is best tutorial

stoic island
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Oh boy you'll see a huge difference

fossil hedge
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real shame honestly

jade grove
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everytime i load into tarkov i join the russian mafia lmao

stoic island
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Taku how much storage do you need?

inner drift
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For my case io do I plug my HD audio cable into the F_audio on my motherboard?

olive kraken
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Ehh Idk, but I'd say like a Terabyte or so. I don't plan on loading it with stuff

jade grove
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if youre gonna do CAD you might want a mass storage along with a 1tb ssd or NVMe

olive kraken
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Also don't need to go full on crazy with RGB. As the main purpose will be to be working on school stuff I don't need to be flashy (maybe a bit of RGB to flex on friends if budget is enough)

stoic island
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oh that budget is more than just "enough" for rgb

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thats enough for like RGB everything

jade grove
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RGB is getting a bit cheaper tbh but with the budget you can throw down some RGB BDE

inner drift
jade grove
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there should be a guide in your mobo book as to what pins they go on

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its different each mobo

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usually

stoic island
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@inner drift its usually in like bottom right and they're all in like a block

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(on the mobo)

inner drift
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I see it now thanks

lime forge
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@inner drift use ur motherboard manual

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very important

fossil hedge
olive kraken
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All I know about PCs is that they look cool and they can go vroom vroom. Jk I know the basics like storage RAM CPU GPU Power Fans Case Mother Board

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But I'm looking forward to see what y'all think

fossil hedge
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cool

stoic island
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hmm might not be able to fit a 2080ti on top of a good monitor

jade grove
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2070S would still be viable

stoic island
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I mean with 3k$ budget Ima see about 2080S

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and see if I can fit in a 4k monitor

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(1tb nvme plus 4tb mass storage is what I assume would be wanted)

olive kraken
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Oh I forgot to say about peripherals I have a good ish Headset and mouse idk if that could help

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jade grove
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oh oops, bad habits lmao

stoic island
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I do the same :p

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Anyways what do you think rob

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and also taku

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do you want a 4k 60hz (or 120hz if it fits the budget) monitor or like 1440p high refresh rate

jade grove
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if theres gonna be more than one monitor, id say 1440 with 120-140 hz

olive kraken
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I think 1440 will be fine.

stoic island
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Do you have space for multiple large monitors?

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because slotting in a 2080S instead of 2080ti would have 800$ left for monitors and other peripherals

olive kraken
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Hmm

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Hmmm My Desk is meh, I wouldn't say too big

stoic island
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We can see about an ultrawide 1440p or maybe 4k

olive kraken
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But I could always buy bigger desk

stoic island
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Single monitor would also be easier to setup

jade grove
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you could save a little bit with going with a cheaper case i.e nzxt H510 for 70 bucks

olive kraken
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'-' u got me there I'm a noob

stoic island
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(But the RGB flex xD, 800$ left in the budget with a 2080S)

jade grove
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you right you right xD

inner drift
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On a HDD what is that last cable... I don’t seem to have one

stoic island
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too blurry, the sata cable to connect to mobo?

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One cable is to connect to PSU one is to mobo

viral ore
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that last connector is irrelevant

inner drift
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Oh okay

jade grove
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sata and data cables are plugged in, the 3rd is a utility port (i think) and is irrelevant

marsh fiber
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Can anyone rate my build

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I need to fix the cooler

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But that’s all

viral ore
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i dont remember what it does, might be for server kinda stuff

jade grove
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@marsh fiber make. it. implode.

marsh fiber
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I’m home in 10 mins I’ll make al the lights super bright

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Just like 200Sad

jade grove
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lol RGB fleexxxx

marsh fiber
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I bought it the other day

jade grove
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thats like right on the money

stoic island
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Aight

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He doesn't have a keyboard so ima look for a nice mechnical one

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you got quick suggestions?

jade grove
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i have the blackwidow on there, nice middleground

stoic island
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I was trying to max out onto the 3k budget with nice things

olive kraken
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Sorry if I am not too active rn. I have a french test due and An essay due 11:59

jade grove
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thats pretty much what i thought up, but now life calls. ill check in time to time for input. and i was able to squeeze in some reasonable speakers as well

stoic island
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Aight man you should go study for that taku

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Rob is the k95 or blackwiddow better

jade grove
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not sure, personally i like mecha membrane switches (weird i know) so ive stuck with the k55

stoic island
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em seems close enough to k95 so ima stick with that on the list

jade grove
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alright im out for now. until next time fellas

stoic island
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Aight cya

cursive wharf
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@stoic island G3 isnt that great of a PSU. Switch it out

stoic island
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what tho

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Corsair RMi any good?

cursive wharf
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Yee, Also get the Sabrent Rocket NVMe

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That Corsair drive is overpriced

wild pulsar
cursive wharf
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also MSI isnt that great on x570

stoic island
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They're about the same price hei lol

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120 vs 125

cursive wharf
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@wild pulsar go 3700x instead of 3800x, change mobo, change RAM, Samsung SSD is overpriced

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@stoic island Rocket is better tho

stoic island
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they're at like the same place

cursive wharf
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it's a whole class above the corsair one for cheaper

stoic island
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if not corsair being better for the warrenty

inner drift
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She’s done!

wild pulsar
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You don’t like the unify? Which would you suggest.

cursive wharf
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If you want an NVMe the same as the Corsair then it's like $100 - $110

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If you want one that is better, then $120

inner drift
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First build

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Kinda cursed with the toe

wild pulsar
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😂

viral ore
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👀

cursive wharf
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@wild pulsar It's okay. But you dont need a $300 mobo for your needs

stoic island
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I'm failing to see why the sabrent rocket is better at about the same speeds

cursive wharf
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Also, that 5700XT is a bit pricy. You might as well get a 2070S

wild pulsar
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@cursive wharf I agree just wanted to get something more then my needs to try and “future proof”

stoic island
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rn the rocket is only 5$ cheaper at 1tb

cursive wharf
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@stoic island Controller and cache are a thing

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not all about seq read/write

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@wild pulsar That board is like built for LN2 3900x

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I really doubt you'll go that far

stoic island
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They're both on phison e-12 controllers

cursive wharf
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The Sabrent Rocket is about 970 Evo Plus level while MP510 is about standard 970 Evo level in perf

stoic island
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??

cursive wharf
stoic island
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I'm looking for stats on the mp510 and rocket cache

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but so far controller they're on the same one afaik

cursive wharf
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On the LTT server most people consider the Rocket to be on Evo Plus level, and these arent people that just say random stuff either

stoic island
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There is a sabrent rocket pcie 3.0 running e12 controller, and one sabrent rocket pcie 4.0 running e16 controller

cursive wharf
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Also of note, that mobo is pretty bad in terms of VRM

stoic island
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you might've confused the two bc I cant find much on sabrent rocket

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I kinda just randomly clicked on a mobo lol

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One that had wifi

cursive wharf
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MSI has had a tough time with x570

stoic island
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I'll look at mobos again later

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I'm leaving mp510 on for now but I'll change it if the sabrent really is that good

cursive wharf
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Asus Prime P is a nice and cheap x570. Just get a PCIe 1x add in for wifi as I dont think there are any cheap x570 wifi boards

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That or go with a b450/x470 wifi board

stoic island
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I'm just gonna try and find one with integrated wifi

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if not I'll add wireless card

olive kraken
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If Mobo stands for mother board then theres no need to worry about wifi. I made the company throw a whole connection just for my room :)

cursive wharf
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Also yee, change out that PSU. The G3 is legit worse then G2

stoic island
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Oh than thats fine

cursive wharf
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and G2 is a bit above budget

olive kraken
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If that's any of what y'all r talking about XD

stoic island
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I changed it out for RMi 1000W for now

cursive wharf
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oh yee. Think I said that but bad memory here

stoic island
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I'll find the price for like RMi 800W and put it in there

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bc 1000w had a price pcpartpicker could find and I was lazy

cursive wharf
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550w is fine for that build tho

stoic island
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yea I was setting it high bc I was gonna try 3950x and 2080ti at first, but too expensive

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650 or 750 will prob do fine

cursive wharf
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300w GPU + 150w CPU (more like 130w I think) + 70w system

stoic island
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BTW mobo is motherboard taku

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I'll look for ones without wifi since you got ethernet

olive kraken
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😅 I feel like I'm back in 2nd grade when I see this chat

wild pulsar
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@cursive wharf what’s your thoughts on the crosshair VI HERO?

inner drift
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I need some help with setup... my monitor shows the hdmi is connected but I can’t do anything else.

stoic island
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Its turned on I assume?

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any lights on the mobo lighting up?

inner drift
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Yes

cursive wharf
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x570 Prime P is much better for cheaper

stoic island
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Oh wait I was looking at the wrong one

inner drift
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I can see two

wild pulsar
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@inner drift is your GPU plugged in?

stoic island
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I thought you said prime pro lol

wild pulsar
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@cursive wharf I’ll give it a look

stoic island
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@inner drift does the lights have writing next to it?

cursive wharf
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@wild pulsar Wasnt exactly talking to you

wild pulsar
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Ahhh 😱 👍🏻

cursive wharf
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that one x470 or x570? dont remember all the Hero names

coarse coral
stoic island
cursive wharf
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Also what are you using it for?

stoic island
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Just doing an outline for what @olive kraken could make

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He wanted to be able to do any game, and be able to do CAD work, hes upgrading from a laptop

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3k$ budget

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Also I had a friend have that exact HP SSD and had it die after about a month

cursive wharf
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@wild pulsar Well Im too lazy to look into Hero's quality however the x570 Prime P is legit an amazing mobo for its price. Tho only needed for gen 4.0 PCIe which isnt really in use

inner drift
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My gpu is plugged in, but I’m new so maybe I’m doing something wrong with the psu

wild pulsar
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@cursive wharf thank you.

stoic island
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Thats the only person I know that had that ssd so I've had bad experiences

cursive wharf
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@stoic island I have the 512GB model and no issues. Afaik all failure rates are pretty close to each other

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there is no widespread test that says "company x is actually not reliable"

stoic island
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That friend changed to a MP510, and now so have I, no issues with that.
I just have some bias from personal experience

inner drift
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Should I take out the gpu to see what the light says?

cursive wharf
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Im just picking cheapest components that have good perf. HP isnt well known for its customer service so Ill say that. However reliability wise it's the same as all other brands, more or less

stoic island
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I'll just slide in a personal suggestion to change to a mp510, slightly higher performance, better endurance warranty, but either works

cursive wharf
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I mean sure, however given that Im also doing a 3950x and 2080Ti as well for what I assume is a 3k budget limit, small price saving is nice

olive kraken
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I don't mean to mess any of y'all results but if u r struggling to fit something in I can make it 3.3k and go broke for the rest of the month :)

stoic island
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nah nah nah taku we can go lower lol

olive kraken
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xD just saying

stoic island
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these are creature comforts

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like 1000mb/s more write doesn't matter that much since you'll be using read most of the time

cursive wharf
stoic island
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Might want to up the cooler

cursive wharf
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nah

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dont need to

stoic island
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3950x might be quite hot

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huh ok

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I was looking at the difference but for some reason the monitor I chose is 150$ more lol

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might change

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changed to a 2k 165hz monitor and a 2080ti

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decided to up the monitor since we can slot in a 2080ti

cursive wharf
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skipped out on 3950x?

stoic island
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didn't want to risky high temps without a large cooler

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I like a bit more headroom

cursive wharf
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temps arent that bad tbh

olive kraken
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Oh guys no need for mouse

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I have a logitech G903 I bough during Bf

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°^°

stoic island
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You still want speakers or nah?

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(if you have already)

olive kraken
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Nah, I'm good I got a home theater if I wanna blast music

cursive wharf
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stock 3950x is like 130w power consumption and OCed one to 4.4GHz at 1.325v is 240w

stoic island
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The expensive case is just for RGB flex btw xD

cursive wharf
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Case I picked was just due to rush. I cant vouch for it or anything and suggest coolmaster one more

stoic island
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Aight. I chose it bc it looked nice and I might've gotten it

cursive wharf
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@olive kraken want ultrawide monitor?

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last I checked it was $380 for a VA 1440@100Hz ultrawide with freesync.

olive kraken
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Idk what half of that means. But sure ig?

stoic island
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I mean 144hz would be nicer

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ultrawide is exactly what it sounds like

cursive wharf
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just ignore the rest as that was towards 1111

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mainly focus on the ultrawide part of it for you

olive kraken
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Is wide monitor better to watch that adult thingie at better quality?😂 😂 😂

cursive wharf
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adult thingie

stoic island
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I choice a slightly larger monitor for between ultrawide and normal size

cursive wharf
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uhhhhh..... sure?

stoic island
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I mean

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ultrawide might have wierd aspect ratios idrk tho

cursive wharf
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Eh, decent amount of videos get blackbars on the side, wont effect viewing or anything tho. It is helpful for more professional work tho as your view is mostly taken up correctly

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as well as games look nice

stoic island
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I have no experience with ultrawide so eh

inner drift
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I’ve been trying to get my monitor to work for a while... is there anything else I can try?

stoic island
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Frosty so have you tried reset cmos and flashing new bios

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that fixed mine when I had issues

inner drift
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That’s not it it just says hdmi 2 and nothing else

stoic island
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does it say no input

inner drift
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No it doesn’t say that

stoic island
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Do you have a laptop you can try to plug in

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to check if the cable is fine

inner drift
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It just changed

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In says “check the cable connection and the setting of the source device.”

stoic island
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yea so

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Display issues is either Mobo or GPU

inner drift
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Okay

olive kraken
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Eh so this PC, do I gotta like order every single piece and wait for em all to arrive? Or should I wait for like X-mas to see if any discounts etc.

stoic island
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waiting for discounts is strongly recommanded

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I mean 3000$ with 5% discounts on every part is 150$

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Discounts will add up quickly

olive kraken
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Cuz I feel like maybe it I wait a bit. And get some like holiday type discounts I could save leh money for food

stoic island
#

ya

little osprey
#

ok i need help can someone help me?

stoic island
#

I might be able to help

#

whats your problem

olive kraken
#

Cuz I just busted 1k on Bf buying X-mas gifts ;-;

little osprey
#

ok so this my first time buliding a pc and i am coufused about the grapics card

stoic island
#

oof yea waiting is a good idea

#

Austin wdym

#

You bought parts and have them now or are you choosing a part?

little osprey
#

choosing

stoic island
#

Alright whats the exact issue?

#

if you need help selecting cards #graphics-cards might be a good place to find people for help

little osprey
#

i dont know what to get that is good for gaming if that makes seince beacuse i am trying to find grapic cards that go with amd

stoic island
#

What's the budget?

lyric thistle
#

cpu and gpu combo can be both sides

#

mix

stoic island
#

(They might be asking for amd GPU idk)

#

Combos doesn't really matter, an intel CPU can go with a AMD GPU and a Nvidia GPU

little osprey
#

so on one part 150

stoic island
#

What's your total budget?

#

and how much has been spent on what?

little osprey
#

so 100 on the tower and keyboard, mouse, headset

#

and total is 500

stoic island
#

Have you decided on a CPU yet?

little osprey
#

yes

stoic island
#

which one?

rugged copper
#

go pentium

little osprey
#

amd well i will send a link to it

stoic island
#

boombastic ima let you takeover I gotta do some hw

little osprey
#

ok so boombasic

#

is amd good for begginers?

#

heres the cpu

icy plume
#

I'd say so, some good processor choices if you get the right ones, and the rx 500 series is a good budget GPU series. But i'm no expert

little osprey
#

oh allright

icy plume
#

yeah

stoic island
#

I had a friend get ryzen 3400g and rx 570 on a semi-low cost build

icy plume
#

I'd recommend a ryzen 5 3600x

stoic island
#

totaling up to 800$ but something like that would work

little osprey
#

yea

stoic island
#

liberated he has a 500$ budget so idk bout that

icy plume
#

ooh

stoic island
#

last I checked 3600x is like 200$

icy plume
#

oof

little osprey
#

is ryzen 4 good

icy plume
#

I'm not too sure

#

are you trying to get 1080p ultra at 60fps? 40? different settings at 60fps?

stoic island
#

ryzen 5 you mean?

#

ryzen quad core 3rd gen CPUs are pretty nice

little osprey
#

allright

#

what about mother boards

icy plume
#

personally i recommend a six-core but it really depends on per-core performance

viral ore
#

honestly, if your trying to go on a super tight budget, and arent trying to run the best games, what would you think of using the 3400g iGPU?

stoic island
#

go for a b450 or b350 I believe

viral ore
#

it isnt like, terrible

stoic island
#

yea sassy that is prob fine

viral ore
#

b450 is ideal

viral ore
#

plus, it allows you to get a better gpu later when your ready

icy plume
#

I feel like even on a tight budget you can do okay

little osprey
#

ok now memory where do i look?

icy plume
#

Like maybe an RX 470/80? There are good deals on those

stoic island
#

Look for g.skill ripjaw 3200mhz 2x8gb

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that should be like 40 bucks

icy plume
#

^

stoic island
#

I remember ripjaw being cheap but idrk

little osprey
#

ok that sounds nice

viral ore
#

the corsair vengeance lpx is usually quite cheap

stoic island
#

ripjaw is cheaper if I remember

#

might be wrong

little osprey
#

i belive last thing the grapics card could i find something like 150 or 100 for good grapics?

icy plume
#

for 150? shoot for an RX 570 i'd say

stoic island
#

rx570 maybe

#

yea

#

Corsair is 5$ cheaper rn, the ram is costing 60$ rn

little osprey
#

allright is there anything else i would need?

viral ore
#

what do you have for like the case and psu?

#

if anything

#

i would think a 500w psu is all you need if you arent planning on oc'ing

#

and whatever case fits the budget is fine

#

a psu would run you like $50

little osprey
viral ore
#

a low end case would be about 60

little osprey
#

yea

viral ore
#

ahh cool

#

so what about psu?

#

do you need one?

little osprey
#

yea

#

so if you could could you explain what the psu is?

viral ore
#

oh, its the power supply

#

it supplies power to the components

#

very important

stoic island
#

don't cheap out, cheap PSU might fry your other componets

#

go for a nice reliable one

icy plume
#

yeah

little osprey
#

ok

icy plume
#

go for maybe a thermaltake or a corsair one

viral ore
#

evga or seasonic

stoic island
#

corsair has some nice ones too

icy plume
#

Go with something reputable and well-rated. MAKE SURE TO CHECK REVIEWS ON VITAL COMPONENTS

viral ore
#

something like this

stoic island
#

(new corsair ones like RM and HX)

viral ore
#

good enough on a budget

stoic island
#

looks good enough

#

no need for modular on budget

little osprey
#

ok thank you guys so much for the help

viral ore
#

plus it on SALE 😮

stoic island
#

:o

viral ore
#

:0

#

my mouf is bigger than urs lol

little osprey
#

:0

viral ore
#

:()

stoic island
#

:[]

#

okay

#

enough is enough

viral ore
#

daaaaaang

viral ore
#

steve from minecraft lookin mouth

stoic island
#

ikr

#

but yours look likes a monkey ngl

viral ore
#

lol it do

little osprey
#

ok so i belive i have found a ryzen 5https://www.newegg.com/amd-ryzen-5-3400g/p/N82E16819113570?Description=quad%20core%203rd%20gen%20CPU&cm_re=quad_core_3rd_gen_CPU--19-113-570--Product

#

for 180

#

wait 140

viral ore
#

that cpu has an iGPU

#

its pretty ok

#

if you want to use that, then get a real gpu in the future, thats a great idea

lone cosmos
#

So making a server board into a gaming comp.. Should I keep all the raided 100gb. Hdd?

lime forge
#

look for an 8gb RX 570

#

4gb is okay

#

but 8gbs are better

#

not much more expensive im pretty sure

little osprey
#

allright

#

i found a 8gb one

viral ore
#

yeah, the 570 is a solid card

lone cosmos
#

How about 590x?

#

Just rehashed?

stoic island
#

rx590?

#

its just refresh of rx580 not much benefits if you talking about 590

lone cosmos
#

I see

#

Got it for 130 so im happy lol

stoic island
#

aight

cursive wharf
#

@viral ore Br isnt good

viral ore
#

br?

stoic island
#

br?

cursive wharf
#

evga br

stoic island
#

oh psu

viral ore
#

oh, the psu

#

i mean, on a budget

#

good enough

cursive wharf
#

you two in sync?

viral ore
#

lol

stoic island
#

I guess so

cursive wharf
#

anyways, Corsair CX is usually the same price

stoic island
#

but yea not many options for 50$

#

I was hearing bad things about older corsair PSUs but no solid evidence

viral ore
#

that was literally the cheapest on newegg atm

stoic island
#

(it's also the first thing that comes up if you put in 500w into the search bar)

cursive wharf
#

Corsair VS series are pretty bad

viral ore
#

if it gets an 80+ bronze, its good enough for a budget pc

cursive wharf
#

CXM has coil whine issues

#

Nah, BR has bad temperature tolerance and is group regulated

#

not super great given CX being basically same price

viral ore
#

one 6+2 is all most people need

cursive wharf
#

not really about the pin out that is bad on the BR. It is its quality

#

but I guess CX only has 1 6+2 pin. Not like you'll generally need more on a 450w PSU

viral ore
#

well, considering most 1080s use an 8 pin

#

as a budget option its got what it needs

little osprey
#

probably gonna take apart my lego pi build and revise the design a bit; i would kinda like to make it more coherent and less like a pile of plastic and wires

#

this was basically a prototype to see if the idea was feasible to begin with

#

might try for more of a "micro-tower" form factor

viral ore
#

get a micro stx motherboard

#

then do a "mini" pc

little osprey
#

nah i figure i'll just stick with what i already have and build around my pi

stoic island
#

m-atx?

viral ore
#

stx

stoic island
#

interesting

viral ore
#

micro stx, but not mini stx

#

the micro are like the same ratio of an atx board

#

but smaller

stoic island
#

never heard of those

#

all I know is micro-atx, and mini-atx

viral ore
#

it was a new intel spec that they killed off in favor of the NUCs

stoic island
#

ah

viral ore
#

asrock picked it up from the trash

#

and went with it

stoic island
#

I'm an AMD boi

little osprey
#

intriguing

viral ore
#

intel made the atx spec too

#

to replace the AT spec back in

#

95?

#

i think

#

maybe earlier

little osprey
#

:0c

#

i am Learning Things

stoic island
#

me too

viral ore
#

always good to Learning Things™

little osprey
viral ore
#

does anybody know the alt code for the TM thing?

#

i cant remember

stoic island
#

Don't think its built in

#

idk tho

#

also

viral ore
#

stoic island
viral ore
#

ahh there it is

stoic island
#

I claim ownershi[

viral ore
#

go

#

trademark

stoic island
#

ight

#

mein

little osprey
#

Which one

viral ore
#

the AIB card

deep skiff
#

^

viral ore
#

the powercolor has the much better cooler

#

MUCH

#

better

deep skiff
#

the red devil is one of the best cooling ones

severe oxide
#

I DID IT I DID IT I DID IT

#

I finally bought my parts and DAAAMMN DO I FEEL GOOD

#

I have a small amount of buyer’s remorse over being tired enough to buy the ASrock 5700 XT but it was $350 and it’s not that bad so I’ll take it

#

X570-F

#

16GB trident Z neo 3600CL16

#

3700X

#

Rosewill photon 1050W

#

Intel 660p 1tb

#

I’m getting a Lian Li PC O11 dynamic

green stirrup
#

i have alot of processes open apparently maybe i should re run it

viral ore
#

@severe oxide nice!

#

you gonna do mad overclocking?

#

you got the psu wattage for it

severe oxide
#

Oh ya baby

viral ore
#

helllllll yeah

severe oxide
#

I actually wasn’t gonna get a monster PSU like that but it was on like a mega sale so o just pulled the trigger

green stirrup
#

how much was it?

severe oxide
#

Theres a solid chance that for that price it’s a bit too good to be true and isn’t true 1050W but I only need like 650-800 max for overclocking so even if it’s only like 950W that’s way more than enough

#

$70

#

Wait

green stirrup
#

holy hell

severe oxide
#

No I think it’s $90 with a Renault

#

*rebate

#

Ya

#

Absolutely insane deal

green stirrup
#

ok here you go

#

just built this 2 days ago

lyric thistle
viral ore
#

oof

lyric thistle
#

current pc ofc

#

I did this one just for laughs

#

no percentage result but I benched a netbook

viral ore
#

imma run it on my laptop

#

oof

lyric thistle
#

heyy

#

it registered results tho

little osprey
lyric thistle
#

:o

viral ore
#

ya know

#

i have a pi chillin

#

i should do sumthin

little osprey
#

my dad has like 3 in the house

#

but theyre all in use 😔

viral ore
#

oof

little osprey
#

@viral ore do somethin

#

get one of those 5" monitors and slap it with it

lyric thistle
#

make a Pi collective conscience

viral ore
#

i have 3 arduino unos and a pi b+

flat salmon
lyric thistle
#

gather enough Pi's to do realtime raytracing

flat salmon
#

thats mine

little osprey
#

XMP isn't enabled on the x470-F system

lyric thistle
#

not bad

little osprey
#

is that physically possible

#

ray tracing with a ton of raspberry pis

lyric thistle
#

no idea

viral ore
#

yes

lyric thistle
#

I'm sure it could be doe

#

n

little osprey
#

have a little swarm of tiny computers just BZZZZZ

lyric thistle
#

e

viral ore
#

you can trace the path of a light ray

#

with one pi probably

little osprey
#

dang

#

had my hopes up

viral ore
#

lol

#

DLSS ray tracing?

#

no

little osprey
#

but yeah i wanna get a tiny display now and just mount it onto a Pi case

flat salmon
#

my computer during that benchmark sounded like an airplane

little osprey
#

and then use that for school

viral ore
#

oof

lyric thistle
#

oof

little osprey
#

@flat salmon did you see where it was headed

viral ore
#

my laptop fan only starts spinning when the cpu hits like 90c

#

its dum

lyric thistle
#

smh

viral ore
#

well, probably like 75-80

flat salmon
#

wdym zach

lyric thistle
#

I was thinking, is it possible to put MSI afterburner on a netbook just to moderate fan speeds?

flat salmon
#

oh nevermind

lyric thistle
#

if so that would be useful in that situation probably

viral ore
#

no, laptop fans are not the same as desktop fans

flat salmon
#

i think it was going to dubai for christmas man

lyric thistle
#

aw smh

viral ore
#

they arent setup the same way, so most fan tuning software doesnt know how to access them

#

you need laptop specific programs to do that

lyric thistle
#

I think there's device specific OC software

#

oh

#

yes

little osprey
#

not my pic btw

#

i wanna do this

#

but idk how id do it

#

It’s just getting over the fear of building your first PC like I spend hours and hours of researching mine and I was so scared to do it but I did it and I’m so glad I did

#

Because it was great having the feeling of doing it yourself

viral ore
#

it only gets worse, the more you know, the longer it takes to research

flat salmon
#

lmao

little osprey
#

Fax

viral ore
#

i spent 30+ hours of straight research on my last build

little osprey
#

Oh boy

viral ore
#

almost a full day to put the thing together the way i wanted it to be

little osprey
#

Not gonna lie I kind of got confused on the cables and had a friend put them in for me but we’re not gonna talk about that

viral ore
#

the new one im working on has been a 3 week on and off design sort of thing

little osprey
#

when I get my PC completely done, I'm gonna buy a tiny monitor to stick up with me in my bed with a controller or something

viral ore
#

use your phone and the steam link app

little osprey
#

no

#

You can do that

cursive wharf
#

Ive spent many, many hours now on research. Mostly cuz of me being an enthusiast. Now I can regret my purchases of them not being so great, like my PSU

little osprey
#

my router is trash

viral ore
#

plus a bluetooth controller

#

oh oof

little osprey
#

Do you guys want to see a guy getting kicked by a horse

flat salmon
#

yeah same

viral ore
#

yeah same

lyric thistle
#

hm

little osprey
flat salmon
#

does anyone play rainbow six siege

little osprey
#

Me

viral ore
#

yeah to the guy getting kicked by a horse

#

yes

flat salmon
#

wanna play?

little osprey
#

he got bopped

#

I have a rainbow six siege

#

Not right now I have the flu and I’m lying in bed

#

No thanks

cursive wharf
#

Ended up getting a G3. Not like it's horrible, but regret it cuz it aint that great for its price. Same with CPU Cooler, have a thicc 120mm AIO (basically standard 240mm at this point). Wouldve been better going for a high end air cooler

little osprey
#

f

#

I really wanna get one of those $50 touch screens and just slap on with a Pi, and have me a nice little Win10 tablet

viral ore
#

i got a seasonic 850 X-series for free

#

its older, but it was like brand new

#

so thats what im using in my next build

little osprey
#

Right now I need to swap my power supply because whenever play rainbow six siege it was sometimes just turn off like my entire PC

cursive wharf
#

I mean if it's free, cant complain too much unless its basically a hazard

viral ore
#

yep

#

its a solid unit tho

little osprey
#

yall i had a big brain moment

#

My 750 x-series is still going strong 8 years later. Solid units.

#

make a mini ITX build

#

Wow

#

and strap a 7" monitor to the side

#

easy lan party

#

Actually, I replaced the fan, I got annoyed with it spinning up/down constantly.

viral ore
#

or get that one case where the whole glass side panel is a built in monitor

cursive wharf
#

make your own

little osprey
#

I remember the first time I even played on the computer and it was at a time where I thought any computer could play any game and I thought you needed a disk because that’s how you play all games lol.but I had my wireless mouse and I loaded into fortnight at I think seven frames per second😂

green stirrup
#

@viral ore what do you think. im trying to sell my old build with the X99 and i7 5820k with 18gb 2400ghz ram and 1050ti 750w psu

cursive wharf
#

buying the case from ibuypower is so overpriced

viral ore
#

my 6 case cans are gonna be spinning away, so i wouldnt mind that

little osprey
#

I want to get the I buy power case with the LED display but I don’t have enough money

cursive wharf
#

just make your own tho

flat salmon
cursive wharf
#

you save 100s

little osprey
#

How

viral ore
#

@green stirrup all of that could get you a solid 650 all together if your trying to sell it

#

individually, you would probably get more

little osprey
#

Ethernet? @flat salmon

flat salmon
#

no

#

a 20 mdollar wifi card

little osprey
#

That upload speed is not the best rip

viral ore
#

@flat salmon what site is that

flat salmon
#

ikr

cursive wharf
#

take apart a monitor, and keep the actual pixel display part. You just need to remove the backlight. Then in the case add a bunch o LEDs

flat salmon
#

ookla

viral ore
#

k

#

o "crap"....

little osprey
#

I’m going to have to look up a YouTube video for that

flat salmon
#

yeah

little osprey
#

Who wants to see a old lady falling and spilling hot water on her self

viral ore
#

internet

little osprey
#

Oh my God

#

yo wait

#

thought u were at school

#

How the

eager chasm
lyric thistle
little osprey
#

😂

#

mr maniac, we be here together

viral ore
#

i feel so bad now

little osprey
#

💪

#

I have like a solid 10 upload speed

lyric thistle
#

🦾 😔

little osprey
lyric thistle
#

droppin the turkiey

little osprey
#

Lol

viral ore
#

lol

cursive wharf
#

feels nice

#

in residence tho

#

and wifi is horrible here

#

but good ethernet

haughty gazelle
#

Sorry it's in french haha

little osprey
#

Yeah I can do about a 10 upload speed without ethernet and I’m in a bad corner of my house well my PC is

flat salmon
#

lol

eager chasm
#

lol

lyric thistle
#

is this like

#

fibre

flat salmon
#

you guys canadian?

haughty gazelle
#

I am

flat salmon
#

im aussie

lyric thistle
#

rip

lime forge
#

why rip

haughty gazelle
#

Canada is fine

lyric thistle
#

because Australian internet

eager chasm
#

Aussie internet is infamous

flat salmon
#

yep

#

its ass

lime forge
#

o

haughty gazelle
#

Where are you from?

flat salmon
#

melb

haughty gazelle
#

Cool

flat salmon
#

🙂

haughty gazelle
#

haha I think we aren't in the right chat

#

It's build chat here

flat salmon
#

we were talking about builds but then

haughty gazelle
#

ethernet

lyric thistle
#

[Internet flexing intensifies]

flat salmon
#

damn

haughty gazelle
#

Internet in Canada is good so it's ok

viral ore
#

for those of you familiar with super smash bros melee and super mario 64 speedrunning

#

this is phenominal

tame crystal
#

So I was comparing the ASUS ROG Maximus XI Hero (Wi-Fi) Z390 to the ASUS ROG Strix Z390-E. I see at Microcenter the Hero board comes with an Intel UHD Graphics for the Onboard Graphic Chipset. The Strix does not. I have not heard of an Intel board coming with onboard video. Is this a typo or?

viral ore
#

typo

tame crystal
#

Thought so

little osprey
#

Both will support iGPU output if the CPU is capable. There are only a few z390 boards that lack iGPU support alltogether, the EVGA FTW being one.

XI hero is a very popular z390 option, as are any of the z390 Aorus boards.

tame crystal
#

Is it really just down to personal choice between those two?

little osprey
eager chasm
#

I can't imagine getting a high-end board then using integrated graphics... Does not compute

tame crystal
#

Yeah, that's why I was asking

little osprey
#

iGPU support is still needed for stuff like quicksync, it can also be useful for the occasional GPU troubleshooting.

#

But ya, it'd be real silly to buy an XI Apex and just run with the 9900k's 620 HD graphics for the life of the board lol

eager chasm
#

😂

tame crystal
#

I got an i7-9700KF, and a 1660Ti

eager chasm
#

I can see using Ryzen APUs for integrated graphics as a stop-gap until they can get a GPU, but those integrated graphics are a bit better

little osprey
#

Ya, 2400g/3400g etc have been so cheap on sale

tame crystal
#

I like that the Hero has the extra CPU power plug and a rollback bios button

eager chasm
#

Though I probably didn't need to populate it for a 3700X I used the extra 4-pin CPU power on my board too XD

little osprey
#

While the 8 pin connector is almost always enough in terms of power delivery spec, I think it's smart to always conncet both. There have been some weird reports with x570 msi boards acting up with only 1 plug used.

eager chasm
#

What about X470?

#

The poor man's X570

little osprey
#

8 pin connector with 16 gauge wire spec is like 235 to 300 something watts haha. What about x470

eager chasm
#

Just wondering if there were ever any reports of them acting up with only 1 plug XD

#

Interesting random stats, last lan party I went to had a total average power draw of - Total Amps: 711 - Total Watts: 85320

little osprey
#

It's hard to nail down the objective facts vs superstition reading through forums posts sometimes, but motherboards/platforms vary so much, it wouldn't surprise me if one board actuallly did act up if only 1 plug was used.

#

Haha how many users? That's a lot regardless.

eager chasm
#

~650

#

So roughly 130 watts per person

#

On average

#

Far more reasonable when you frame it like that

#

Also it seems large lan parties are great places to find completely asinine builds... Like someone with a massive case that looks cool... And inside they got an Intel stock cooler Blobcat_Derp

mild ridge
#

Good morning 🙂

eager chasm
#

Morning

little osprey
#

Haha I think my person is about 130 watts. Unfortunately I can't use a power meter for that 🙂 Kill-a-watt's are really nice to have to keep an eye on power draw

mild ridge
#

Here I am slowly dieing of anxiety waiting for my parts to arrive

eager chasm
#

I know that feeling

mild ridge
#

Already spent a couple hundreds in nice to have stuff for the PC ( cable management, PC tools, bigger mouse pad, outlet extension)

eager chasm
#

Also know that feeling

mild ridge
#

😂

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Going through the assembly process in my mind to remember if something is missing

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I have been assembling my own computers for 20 years and every time I do it again I feel like I never did it in my life 😝

eager chasm
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I had to get a 30ft extension cord for my PC... Cause the house I live in currently is wired like a fire Hazzard 1/2 the house is on a single breaker

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So I needed to draw power from a different part of the house

flat salmon
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jesus

eager chasm
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XD

woven echo
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5 or 6 builds now and still fun and always checking if i got everything and checking over everything a few times

eager chasm
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I'm on build 4&5 of the same PC being rebuilt several times with multiple case swaps and a motherboard swap

mild ridge
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@sudden turret loved your custom loop on #build-pics, next PC I want to go into custom loop as well, probably a bit more than just a custom loop, I want to do a very customized PC...

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@eager chasm I always go for everything new, but that's because I usually gift my last build to someone who can make good use of it...

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This one I just bought will go to my oldest son in about a year, when he (almost) turns 10...

eager chasm
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I replaced all my parts over time and now I'm rebuilding all the old parts into a PC for my sister

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Sooo similar

woven echo
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outside of adding a larger drive

little osprey
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Incremental upgrades can really extend the usable life of some builds - I used a 2500k/p8p67 from 2011-2017 but upgraded ssd twice, ddr3 twice, gpu twice, etc

mild ridge
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Totally @little osprey

eager chasm
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The only things the same in my build from when I started is the RAM and All storage

mild ridge
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It's just that I usually go for whatever is best in the market at the moment I build it and then just swap to whatever is best again a couple years later

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So not a lot of stuff to change in a two years frame

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This time around tho I skipped a year of having a PC

woven echo
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cause microsoft can pry windows 7 from my cold dead hands 😡

little osprey
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I went from 560 ti, -> dual 560 ti, 780, back to 560 because artifacts after 1 year, then 1080, then z270

mild ridge
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So I calculate that in one year we probably have really nice new hardware on mkt (3080s better gaming with more cores processors)

little osprey
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I would've put win 7 on z270 but no native NVME driver so I switched to 10 and am glad I did.

eager chasm
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I built a starter PC with the intent of upgrading it to really nice PC over time, then ride the future proofing for several generationa

woven echo
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so annoyed when i tried to use win 7 with the new build it would not work and then look up to see why and find out that microsoft just bribed non support of it

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to force win 10

mild ridge
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Does you guys know if I can use a Windows 8.1 key on Windows 10 now days?

flat salmon
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pirate it

eager chasm
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I know you can still use win 7 keys

mild ridge
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Got those as well

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Will try

eager chasm
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As much as I liked win 7 and hated 8, I love win 10 the most :D

woven echo
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i find it meh and suspicuous

fluid raven
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back when I had to try to game on a laptop windows 10 gave me a legit fps boost so it always holds a special place in my heart

woven echo
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7>10>>>>>>>>>8

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would use linux over 8

worn idol
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At one point in time you could get windows 10 for free if you click a box saying you have a disability

eager chasm
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After I got used to win 10 the much better features make me never want to go back to 7

little osprey
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Let's not advocate for anything illegal, even if it's just a $5 windows key.

fluid raven
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it's not gonna be legit if it's $5

woven echo
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💰 indeed

worn idol
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Windows is expensive

little osprey
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You can find legit keys for $5. They will likely be keys that are 100% legally being resold from other PCs

eager chasm
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Grey market sites are legal (usually) but flat out pirating is not

little osprey
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This ^ exactly

mild ridge
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@little osprey usually those are keys bought in batch from PC manufacturer

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Since they are OEM it's hard to be a recycled one

eager chasm
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Also it's against discord TOS to promote piracy and they will delete your account

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I've seen it happen

little osprey
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An OEM single use key is different vs a MAK , or other KMS / ADM activation use.

worn idol
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You can use windows without a key as long as you are fine with a annoying watermark on the screen although I'm not sure about the legality of that.

little osprey
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100% legal

eager chasm
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Can't use win pro features without a key

mild ridge
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@eager chasm you are telling me that if I have a server with friends who want to buy a boat and go wild on the ocean we can get our account deleted?

little osprey
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Well, can't use a lot of the basic customization like wallpaper, taskbar etc - but it's more of an inconvenience tbh. Ya, pro vs home is worth it for group policy editing alone imo

viral ore
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^

mild ridge
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I want PRO to setup some VMs

viral ore
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gpedit is the "crap"

mild ridge
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So I can play while I bot 😝

eager chasm
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Technically pastafarianism is against the discord terms of service cause Pirates are the chosen ones in that religion 😂

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Lmao

lyric thistle
worn idol
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I want to go to the church of the flying spaghetti monster one day.

eager chasm
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You are already there

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It's doctrine to NOT build places in his honor

lyric thistle
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wait

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this is giving me

worn idol
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I'm running on 4 hours of sleep and its 1:18 am, my brain has stopped functioning and I can barely type so I think I will pass out now.

lyric thistle
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nvm my life is a lie

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pass out well

worn idol
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I will

mild ridge
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Good night

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Sleep tight

little osprey
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What virtualization software do yo uplan to run vms in

mild ridge
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@little osprey no idea at this moment

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I want something simple and that can take some GPU power into the VM for some games

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Used to use HyperV in the past

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And some others VMs softwares, but it's been a while since the last time I had to

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Mainly because I used to work with on promise enterprises Software, but now everything is cloud based

eager chasm
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Java itself it's technically a barebones VM

mild ridge
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Well, you are not wrong

little osprey
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Hyper-V had some nasty security problems in the past, I really like the vsphere products, have you thought of going esxi or other non win 10 baremetal OS?

viral ore
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esxi is a pain in the rear

mild ridge
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Yep, I am open to most solutions

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I have used VMware solutions in the past, but it was 7 years ago

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I am totally out of the mkt for VMs now

lyric thistle
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I made a Win95 VM with VirtualBox

mild ridge
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With docker I didn't have to worrie about it at all as well

eager chasm
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Soo since eminecraft is Java... If you run a Minecraft server in a VM... It's a VM in a VM