#building-and-recc-chat

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limpid merlin
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2 systems with 2080tis would do better as he is most likely not rendering Pixar movie

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And practical consumer use for quadros is VERY bad to say the least

forest zealot
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Quadros are rebadges

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Consumer cards are kneecaped

lime forge
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and birds are government drones

forest zealot
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There are firmware limitations that quadros dont have which is why they can do 2 point percesion

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Because its literally the same chip

pulsar garnet
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RX 5700 XT best for 1440p gaming

little osprey
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Best gaming solution = Titan RTX
edit: ^when budget is no concern

pulsar garnet
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If you also want to spend $2,000 on a 144Hz 4K monitor then yes

little osprey
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I think the 5x00's will be impressive performers for their cost. Even on release drivers they compete well with nvidia's cards at the same price points.

pulsar garnet
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@little osprey they do perform really well. I'm hoping the later cards will improve further because this is a great generation.

high temple
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is this wehre i should ask

pulsar garnet
high temple
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ok ty

little osprey
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I'm excited to see 5700's with non-reference coolers. The 5900 should be really exciting

pulsar garnet
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Yes yes yes

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I'm excited for the whole 5000 series

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Because the 5700s have been really good so far

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I wonder when the 3900x will be back in stock for more than 5 mins tho

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Maybe when the 3950x comes out

little osprey
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I think a ton of retailers are getting 10k+ 3900x shipments around August 10. Hopefully prices even out before then. I'm almost tempted to try flip another 3900x haha

pulsar garnet
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You flipped one? :/

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Capitalist scum

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I'll probably wait until Cyber Monday anyways in case there are any good sales, so whatevs. Aorus X570 Master squad.

little osprey
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I have a x570 master as well haha, there's a group chat if you want in

coarse coral
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(LOUD INTEL SCREECHING)

pulsar garnet
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@little osprey I don't have one yet but it's my planned board

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So if you wanna invite me go ahead

pulsar siren
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I am torn on the 5700xt, but I think it just because I haven’t used an AMD card in decades lol. I’ll do some digging on them

lime forge
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uhhh from what ive heard the 5700 and 5700xt are great but they get crazy hot

little osprey
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Just wait for the non-reference coolers to come out, I plan to grab a 5700. Too bad EVGA won't carry any.

pulsar garnet
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^^^

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Wait another month and get one with better coolers

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My 5700 XT is holding up really well so far in games and has given great benchmarks

dense reef
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So I have a Sapphire nitro, and dark rock so I was wondering what are the best parts for $500 without need of the psu or storage required in the list

little osprey
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Oh, word? Y'all ain't seen? Hmm

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Yeston 5700's

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Atleast someone's still putting effort into trying new designs, even if they're not outright popular established designs like hard edged aib's of years prior.

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https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/ckz6c5/yeston_5700_series_at_chinajoy_2019/

pulsar garnet
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ªªªªª

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Those are adorable

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Honestly the white one would be really nice in an all white build

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White and pink

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Have some pink accents in there

fallow tusk
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just dropped 480 on the aorus 2060 super how yall feel about it

balmy canopy
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Why

high tangle
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Hello , where is the right place to ask if my choice for MB+DDR4+Processor will work toegther?

deep skiff
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or general

next tangle
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Hey everyone, I have a budget of 1100$ (only like 0-50$ over is okay). I want to build it myself and will be streaming and gaming on it. I will be playing games at 1080p and want a PC that looks nice but also has great performance for the price. If someone could put together a list on pcpartpicker for me, that would be awesome, thanks!

hazy seal
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Or you can go to part picker... make one... and we can make suggestions and changes

next tangle
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i'm bad 😭

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lmao

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k fine you got me

hazy seal
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Lazy butt.... lol

next tangle
hazy seal
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That looks like a good set up.. if you can go 650+ on the PSU... 620 seems like an odd number.. lol good brand though

next tangle
hazy seal
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Painting the PC RED? Or just want paint in your list

next tangle
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you know the part of the h500 that covers the cables

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for cable management

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to save money, I can just paint it red myself

hazy seal
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1000W is more then enough power...

next tangle
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yup

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but it's platinum

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and for that price

little osprey
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Open to suggestions?

next tangle
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yes

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vry mooch s0

little osprey
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Should I keep a 1660ti for 1080p gaming or should I get a RTX 2060 for future proof?

chilly marsh
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if you got the money you can

little osprey
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3600 and 3700x are better value vs 3600x unless you're getting a $40 newegg combo discount or something.
If you like the looks of that ram, keep it, but you can get "better on paper" for the same price.
Unsure if blower cooler on 5700xt is fine, non-reference cooler models will relsease soon
Good ssd pick, If you know you're going to be writing 50GB files to the drive somewhat often, I'd recommend a $110 1TB NVME drive, but TLC vs the QLC 660p
PSU isn't bad, but you can probably get something nicer for the money.
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/pc-power-and-cooling-silencer-1050w-psu,5871.html

coarse coral
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1660Ti is more than enough for 1080p gaming for next two years

next tangle
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@little osprey thanks for the suggestions! and what do you mean for the ram?

coarse coral
little osprey
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Yeah but I'm thinking I should return it due to ray tracing being introduced to most games but i bought impulsively

coarse coral
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oh

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well, if you have the money 2060 SUPER is pretty much the new 2070 if you're into that sort of thing

little osprey
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Yeah but im not thinking of buying a 2060 super for 1080p

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I actually don't know anyone who enthusiastically expresses their appreciation for RTX

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Kind of on a budget but im willing to spend the extra $50 for 2060

next tangle
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@little osprey what is oTP?

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OTP*

little osprey
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Over temp protection

next tangle
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oh

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pretty self explanatory

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and what's short hold up time?

coarse coral
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but the Nvenc enconder for streaming is 👌 @little osprey

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for RTX

little osprey
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@coarse coral Oh absolutely, But that didn't come until OBS 23.0 Jan 2019

next tangle
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and what is inaccurate power-good signal, lousy transient response and long component leads? sorry for asking a lot of questions, still semi-new to this PSU stuff

little osprey
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Before then, the NVENC render had to copy frames from vram to main memory to encode, NVENCnew skips that.

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Hold up time = how long PSU can power the PC when it loses input 120v
the rest mean the PSU doesn't respect the ATX specification's manners

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Same tbh, the LTT guys are making a new PSU tier list btw

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And updated AM4/x570 mobo tier list

next tangle
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ohhh

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thank you so much man

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or woman.

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@little osprey what do you mean about the ram? when you said "If you like the looks of that ram, keep it, but you can get "better on paper" for the same price" ?

little osprey
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The affect of faster ram on the real-world application performance of zen2 builds is debatable

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So I just try to recommend what's most likely to work without having to do more work

next tangle
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ohhh

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you're right

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I know a 3600mhz 2x8gb ram that looks really ugly for 70$ 😛

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I can just get those ram heat sinks thing

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for like 15$

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that has rgb

little osprey
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I wouldn't remove the ram heat spreaders

coarse coral
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^

next tangle
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oh y?

coarse coral
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voiding the lifetime warranty

little osprey
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I actually tried to peel off a flarex heat spreader, gave up half way and now that stick just runs hot

next tangle
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can I remove those heatsinks?

little osprey
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That's the best/cheap option for ram that will perform well out of the box.

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You can, but why

next tangle
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because of the speed

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and I want RGB on the ram

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and if I do remove the heatsink @little osprey do I need some like cooling pad tape or something?

little osprey
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Seems like an unnecessary risk, why not buy ram that comes with a heatspreader you like

next tangle
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because it would be more expensive to buy that ram

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@little osprey would it be better if I went with the 2060 super?

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I mean 2070 super?

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and then when the reference cards from other manufacturers come out for 5700 XT, get that?

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because I will be buying all these parts towards like mid september

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maybe even october'

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nvm 2070 super is 500$

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i'll just stick with the 5700 XT

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@little osprey ?

next tangle
hazy seal
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Looks good..

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Would wait for second Gen AMD cards... better cooling

shy galleon
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okay do you guys mind if i send you a link to what i want my build to be and if there is anything that i need to change can you guys tell me because i dont know a lot about computers and my budget is around 600-700 dollars

little osprey
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I'd go with a 3600, whatever 3600+mobo combo deal fits your use/budget best, a psu like a focus plus gold 650, and then ya, wait for a non-reference cooler 5700/xt

shy galleon
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does this look good?

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also there is a discount at my micro center that gives the cpu and motherboard combo for around 200 dollars

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and the 1660 ti is 270

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dollars

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us

little osprey
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Haha send the pcpp link again

shy galleon
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does it work now?

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my budget is around 600 - 700 but i dontk now how to bring down the price and i want a good cpu, gpu, etc

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decent*

little osprey
shy galleon
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and i also want a decent amount of storage

pulsar garnet
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@little osprey I swear I made that exact same build for another guy who wanted a $700 budget

little osprey
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😩

pulsar garnet
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@little osprey

next tangle
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@little osprey what is a non reference cooler 5700xt?

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@little osprey and what mobo do you suggest since I am on a budget

hardy fractal
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Anyone know why my pc turns on in the night

pulsar garnet
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Ghosts

hardy fractal
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That’s what I thought

pulsar garnet
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Ghosting

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Get a better keyboard

hardy fractal
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I got the newest Logitech

lime forge
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lmao its not your keyboard

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probably crappy windows update scheduling

hardy fractal
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Probably

lime forge
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my computer used to turn on at the worst times to do windows updates

next tangle
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virus?

lime forge
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it got me thinking, what if my laptop was in a bag or something and it just turned on to update

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it would overheat and die

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so thats how laptops stay in business LOL

little osprey
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Do you have a big gaming laptop?

hardy fractal
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That happened to me once

little osprey
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CPU can't create too much heat, the cooler for cpu/gpu is likely combined, windows updates are also usually single thread limited and obvi don't use gpu.

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But I'd leave it out of the bag haha

hardy fractal
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Lol

vast valve
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Would anyone be willing to connect a car radiator to their cpu if they knew it were efficient?

hardy fractal
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Heck yeah

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Not really

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The first build that I did I ordered the wrong M.2 and I ended up getting 3

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Whoops

little osprey
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I've thought of trying it with an extra oil cooler, 8AN tubing all around, but you're going to have too much trouble with galvanic corrosion

lime forge
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sorry for not responding im back now

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anyways

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right now i have a gaming laptop but its not super huge

fossil hedge
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nuclear power plant

little osprey
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Back bruhs

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GT 730 vs RX 590 LOL

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1,500% faster

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Been helping him pick parts

agile bear
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I think a gt 8800 would be the better pick

little osprey
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i have a question

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is the gpu and the watercooling system going to fit in the same case

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since the gpu is a triple fan gpu

open gazelle
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@little osprey Triple fan owner here, check the clearance of the GPU vs the GPU clearance itself

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Case allows 370 mm, the GPU is 280.35 mm.

little osprey
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but would the radiator fit too

balmy canopy
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It should

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I have the spec-06 and a gaming x trio. I have enough room for an aio

lapis rampart
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ineed help w/ m2 instalation, pc willboot w/ no display please

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im begging you!!

compact cove
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How is this PC? With 512GB SSD+1TB HDD

little osprey
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9700k extremely comparable to the r7/r5 3rd gen in gaming unless the game is optimized for intel, and the amd chips have more cache, automatic overclocking, good cooler, etc.

snow forge
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How would this be for a dual monitor 4k gaming build? Do a good bit of editing, and wanted to stick with Asus for perfect RGB matching

little osprey
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Dual monitor 4k

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60hz I assume

snow forge
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Most likely. Or a single 4k 120/240hz monitor with a 1440p side monitor. I play a lot of DND, so I keep the map open on one screen and character sheet on the other.

little osprey
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The main issue with the build is improper balance on where money's being allocated

snow forge
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What would you suggest? Obviously changing from 64gigs of ram to 32 or even 16 (was kind of over the top on 64)

little osprey
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The GPU could handle one monitor at 60fps - 90fps

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at 4k

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Just to note

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And the cpu you picked is not necessarily the best for it

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3900x is

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Cheaper mobo, 3900x, same ram, m.2 only

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I'll mess with it

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But is ASUS absolutely necessary

snow forge
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It was more so an aesthetic thing, so no. Not at all.

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The 3800x has a higher base clock, but .1ghz lower OC. Is the 3900x that much better?

little osprey
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3900x has many more cores and a more sophisticated dye quality in most cases

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2080ti is usually outperforming most cpu's, 9900k and 3900x show its limits though

snow forge
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That was my thought, but I wasn't sure.

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How's the Wraith cooler with it?

little osprey
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Amazing

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From what I've seen

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No benefit from AIO or better cooling

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Only difference is 81c vs 91c

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but it never really passes 91c

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plus if you use thermal grizzly as the coolant it'll help as well with cooling by a few degrees

snow forge
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What would be the best x570 motherboard?

little osprey
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x570 is pointless

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the fans are proprietary so if they die your entire board is useless, pci gen 4 hasn't been optimized yet and pci gen 3 hasn't been fully utilized yet, so you see 1fps for $150 more on the board. PCIeGenx4 also gives better m.2 performance but the cost to performance is $150-200 more for no noticeable performance, we're talking 3,000 to 4,000 reads/writes.

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And the drives you had already picked would not take even half advantage of this

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Because they're a lower model pci 3

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and a normal ssd

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x470 is perfect for most

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Because as of now, no one needs the benefits of x570

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will be a good budget board in future.

snow forge
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I'm glad I'm actually learning a lot, usually people just tell me the builds suck with no advice.

little osprey
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np

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I'm still working on it

snow forge
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Alright, I'm looking around as well. Still not sure what case I like. Currently have a p400s housing my parts.

little osprey
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What about the fractal design define S2 rgb

snow forge
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I'll look into it

little osprey
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It's another high end case

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keep in mind you don't have to go high end on the case either.

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Same price overall, SSD with double the speed on both of them (From 1,500-2000 to 3,000-3,500 and from 350-400 to 500-700r/w)

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Still a very nice rgb case and mobo

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low-ish latency ripjaws ram

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(You could also go with 32gb royals for better timings)

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and a better cpu

snow forge
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Have you worked with the case at all?

little osprey
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I don't work with high end cases over $200

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Out of my price range.

snow forge
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What would you truly suggest? Cable management is a big factor for me

little osprey
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Best case for cable management?

snow forge
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I love CableMod cables and like my build looking orderly. Doesn't have to be the best.

little osprey
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Also, Gamers Nexus is the best person to listen to for AMD cpu's, GPU thermals, and fan reviews

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He goes very in depth, I've been learning a lot from him

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That's his review of the case, I haven't seen it yet.

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hardwarecanucks is pretty good too but they are more for glamor shots of the cases rather than complete information like Steve usually provides.

snow forge
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Yeah, I enjoy HardwareCanucks but more so for peripherals. I'll watch his video. Seems to be the same thing, higher price.

little osprey
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Peripherals HardwareCanucks are actually a bit on the amateur side sadly

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I would recommend RocketJumpNinja for mice, he has around 20 years of experience and got me into trying lots of mice before I got locked onto logitech's amazing sensors. RIP Corsair lmao

snow forge
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Using Quake to show sensors was the smartest thing I've seen

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He's the one that got me to get the g502

little osprey
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As for Keyboards, /r/mechanicalkeyboards is the best place for questions, as for youtubers it's hard to say that there's a specific channel, randomfrankp is like the bottom line, lots of personal builders in the mechanical keyboards community have independent channels and you can sometimes buy keyboards from them, but not from the best though (In my opinion) ActualGlacier (Also known for blowing up over his post of Minecraft with PathTracing a few months ago on Twitter)

snow forge
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I'm sticking with my Logitech peripherals. I have my g502 (mouse), g910 orion spectrum (keyboard), and g633 (headset)

little osprey
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Same mouse here

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I love it

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G403, G502 are both good

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I'm considering upgrading to the G703

snow forge
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I was thinking about upgrading to the Lightspeed Wireless

little osprey
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It's around $50 now

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ye

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same

snow forge
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Alright, case wise. How's the be quiet! Dark Base 700?

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It's around $170

little osprey
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It's an amazing case

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Be Quiet is top notch

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Good PSU's, Fans, Cases, CPU coolers, etc.

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Your gpu would be slightly too long for it without removing some drive cages though

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I had to do that with my previous build

snow forge
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I'm looking for a smaller 2080ti

little osprey
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EVGA

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and that specific one has amazing reviews

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There's also a cable management accessory for it

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That case will give you amazing cooling btw

snow forge
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The OC is 120hz lower. Any difference really shown?

little osprey
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You can overclock that without affecting stability on the card yourself

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I do it to every computer I touch lol, much higher than 120

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MSI Afterburner

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You wouldn't even have to change voltage.

snow forge
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Is that just the manufacture recommendation?

little osprey
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Not to mention it makes 0 difference.

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120mhz is nothing on the clock

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Also, here is the difference in synthetic performance between the 3700x and the 3900x

snow forge
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Oh damn

little osprey
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Single core 3700x is better

snow forge
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Also, I just hate how EVGA's GPU's look. Might have to do a paintjob on that

little osprey
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Ah

snow forge
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I could just stick with horizontal mounting.

little osprey
snow forge
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Is the 9900k really that much better?

little osprey
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3900x shines in overclocking and workloads

still roostBOT
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JesusisGodHChrist#7777 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

little osprey
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9900k uses a lot of power though

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Too much honestly

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And due to its less cores among other things, it will often have stuttering at 4k (According to a few reviewers)

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It's best suited for Adobe suite users and gamers using like 2 2080ti's

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but it requires over 1,500 watts with 1 2080ti and a 9900k at full load

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ridiculous

snow forge
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Shit, added the x570 board not the 470

little osprey
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you got tricked

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the royal you picked ram wise are cas19

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cas19 is above the infinity fabrics latency

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therefor it will desync

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Get these instead

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they're CL14

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the perfect number with 3200mhz

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so the absolute sweet spot on Ryzen 3rd gen, even better than 3600mhz

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3900x comes very close to threadripper performance.

Reference to the high wattage of Z390 INTEL:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBrumDWpl-c

snow forge
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Take off the 570 and go with the one you sent?

little osprey
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what

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I'm talking about ram

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that's important issue wise

snow forge
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Yeah, I changed the build to the one you sent

little osprey
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That's how I have it right now

snow forge
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The ram link you sent

little osprey
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kk

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One sec

coarse coral
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9900K still best for gaming

little osprey
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True

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But man that wattage

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:'i

coarse coral
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who cares

snow forge
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I'd rather not need a 1000 watt PSU

little osprey
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electric bill, component survival rate over the next year

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That's the best I believe.

coarse coral
little osprey
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I know these are the best for their spec:
-M.2 B+M speed wise and review wise
-X470 from MSI, they made the best mobos for gen 2 surprisingly
-3900x, one of the best overall and def the best AMD's got rn
-Psu is one of the best
-Ram is the most optimal

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Only thing you had to cut down on was that 64gb ram

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to 32

snow forge
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Any difference in the TridentZ vs Royal?

little osprey
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No

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And the ram you had picked as I mentioned was a high latency

coarse coral
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depends

little osprey
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which desyncs from the infinity fabric

coarse coral
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same speed and timings? no

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RGB AND SHINY? YES

little osprey
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so the timings being 14 on the ones I threw in there are mmm

coarse coral
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but what speed

little osprey
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plus it's not that expensive surprisngly for 14, but I would prefer lower.

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3200mhz, sweet spot rather than full speed since he intends for gaming

coarse coral
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everyone recommending 3600 for new ryzen

little osprey
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I know, but the timings are so high it makes their performance below 3200mhz

coarse coral
little osprey
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Anything over 18 rn is desyncing from the infinity fabric.

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and 16 is worse than CL14 with the infinity fabric

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Wendell pointed this out at the beginning of the ryzen 3 launch, he was also the one to point out many of the motherboard incompatabilities and errors prior to and during the launch.

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After that GN has begun mentioning it

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and even Linus somehow was informed enough to make a vid on it

coarse coral
snow forge
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Has to be something if LTT would cover it, lol.

little osprey
snow forge
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Would I need the SeaSonic 850W or stick with the BQ 750W?

little osprey
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This was the main one I looked at during the launch as well

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Lots of information

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Most of what I've said and most others are saying

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@snow forge The seasonic is a higher quality

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and cheaper

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cause of a sale mainly

snow forge
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Now, WiFi card choice?

little osprey
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I have one but why wifi

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This works perfect, I have it as well

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It's bluetooth 5.0 and wifi in one

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has an optional adapter

snow forge
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There are times when I can't always have ethernet access

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Have any info on Hard Line LC?

little osprey
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LC

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?

snow forge
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Liquid Cooling

little osprey
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Ah

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It's not worth water cooling the 3900x

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The gpu would like it though

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Ref:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBQ1RUeV_oo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Wzhh3zH9Hs

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I would go for an aio gpu if you're wanting to water cool

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Ryzen does equally well on its stock fan and aio

snow forge
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?

little osprey
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Yes

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Just make sure its for the same model number

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But yeah that's one way

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There's also models with it built in

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But not sure if the 2080ti has any of them

snow forge
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It's for their 2080ti's

little osprey
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But its for specific models of the 2080ti

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it lists them

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I would just make sure first.

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But its a good idea

snow forge
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Compatibility of the EVGA HYBRID Kit for EVGA/NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti XC/XC2/FE, 400-HY-1384-B1, RGB (400-HY-1384-B1): EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti BLACK EDITION GAMING, 11G-P4-2281-KR, 11GB GDDR6, Dual HDB Fans, RGB LED, Metal Backplate

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Yup

little osprey
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ok

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Also whats weird is my build saved you like $200+

snow forge
little osprey
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but its so nice now owo

snow forge
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Yeah, it did

little osprey
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oooo

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Get the built one

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Then its their fault if it breaks

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Wait

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That one has bad reviews specifically

snow forge
#

Same one?

little osprey
#

ye

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None of them have good reviews

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like they have 10-15% bad

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gigabyte had the worst

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msi had the second worse

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as expected of msi

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so evga's is still the best

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but it can have an issue with the fan being loud, temps being a lil weird, and it randomly changing voltage.

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From what I've read.

snow forge
#

Yeah, I saw that part

#

Seems to be two different cards, just the Amazon link has the able to be chosen between. So the reviews are added from the two

little osprey
#

This is a TON more but is a kingpin, so overclocked by KingPin's team

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the best GPu overclocker

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And a 240mm radiator

snow forge
#

That $600 premium. Yikes

little osprey
#

Yeah

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For Kingpin and double the radiator

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Plus you're ensuring you have the best dyes essentially

#

it's like buying from silicone lottery

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because they can't make a kingpin without high quality everything

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It's the only one with perfect reviews on both sites

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and its the only one with that good of cooling

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and that good of overclocks

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but it may be out of price range, that I expect

snow forge
#

Yeah

little osprey
snow forge
#

I'm at $3500 with monitors

little osprey
#

not bad

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wow

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its so good quality wise they managed to get 1400mhz on ram like nothing

#

oof

still roostBOT
#
iForsakenHD#7787 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

snow forge
#

Screw it, I've played with x2 1080p monitors for four years. I'll wait a little longer for the 4k monitor

little osprey
#

There we go

#

YOu wanna stay at 1080p?

snow forge
#

Not really

#

I'm a graphics wh0r3

little osprey
#

What resolution is better for you

#

More affordable that is

snow forge
#

What would be best for this build?

little osprey
#

Same GPU?

snow forge
#

The exact build I just sent

little osprey
#

120fps 4k

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high

snow forge
#

That's what I assumed

#

"Warning!Some AMD X470 chipset motherboards may need a BIOS update prior to using Zen 2 CPUs. Upgrading the BIOS may require a different CPU that is supported by older BIOS revisions.
Note:The be quiet! Dark Base 700 ATX Mid Tower Case supports video cards up to 430mm long, but video cards over 286mm may block drive bays. Since the EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB KINGPIN GAMING Video Card is 290.83mm long, some drive bays may not be usable.
Note:The motherboard M.2 slot #2 shares bandwidth with a SATA 6.0 Gb/s port. When the M.2 slot is populated, one SATA 6.0 Gb/s port is disabled.
Note:Some physical dimension restrictions cannot (yet) be automatically checked, such as cpu cooler / RAM clearance with modules using tall heat spreaders."

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Any of those actually to worry about?

little osprey
#

You just get microcenter to update it for $30

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or you buy a $40 cpu and upgrade it yourself

#

still cheaper than x570

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for their good boards

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and no performance loss/gain as mentioned earlier

snow forge
little osprey
#

That's a low end x570

snow forge
#

Don't have a MicroCenter near me

little osprey
#

Overheats

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Buy this cpu then to update it and sell it on ebay afterward or keep it

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unless you want to update it with the gpu unplugged

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in which case the athlon

#

and as for the sata "Warning" it's telling you that your sata is almost all used up, but you won't be using sata anyway outside of the second m.2 drive.

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So there's no concern.

snow forge
#

There's 8 sata ports on the board anyway lol

little osprey
#

My WORKING build has warnings because the website got confused on the motherboard needing update, etc.

snow forge
#

Is it necessary to even update it? Or could it even be an error?

little osprey
#

It is necessary

#

It cannot recognize the third generation without the update

#

But its super easy

snow forge
#

Since it does say "Some and May"

#

As in this board might be fine

little osprey
#

you put a file on a clean usb, plug it in and reboot with the cpu in

#

and it might, but my board said it would take ryzen 3rd gen but required a 5 minute update

snow forge
#

Yeah, says it supports 2nd gen

little osprey
#

GN, I wanna have time to get lit in the morning

snow forge
#

Lol

#

It's 5:30am. Tired as shit. Second night awake without sleep

#

GN man, really appreciate it

#

OOH

#

He says B450M is best for 2080ti, odd

little osprey
#

I'm using b450m

#

It's not bad

snow forge
#

Compared to X470?

little osprey
#

X470 can better handle the 3900x's cores though

#

They are a little too much for b450m, but its not very noticable if at able

#

its certainly doable

#

there was a good video on it

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Wendell + Eposvox, always good

snow forge
#

Will watch all of them. Now, go to bed lol

little osprey
#

That's the 3700x but the 3900x should also work

#

still not as recommended as x470 tho

compact cove
#

What kind of frames would I get with low settings with the build I sent?

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For Fortnite, CSGO PUGB BO4 etc

compact cove
#

Will this build support 240hz ?

pulsar garnet
#

You probably won't get consistent 240FPS from that card

jaunty relic
#

Hey everyone, doing my first build and looking to get some feedback on my parts, especially on picking a proper PSU for it. Any and all thoughts are appreciated! https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4bzd4q

little osprey
#

so i have an ok-ishly strong pc but the graphics card is trash and it has had problem after problem should i just sell it and build a pc?

jaunty relic
#

If the rest of your system is well and can still handle the work you do, you could just get a new graphics card to replace the old one

little osprey
#

its been running into problems and it blue screens with the new card (even with the drivers)

little osprey
#

PFF

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It's a 1660ti @compact cove

#

Weak

#

Get a ryzen 5 3600, its equal to the 9700k

#

Get a 5700xt and you can do 240hz 1080p low

snow forge
pulsar garnet
#

@little osprey XT on 1080p ultra still gets like 144FPS average (idk about higher because my monitor is 144Hz)

shy galleon
#

guys i have a question

#

what is better for 1080 60fps gaming the gtx 1660 or rx 590?

little osprey
lime forge
#

mmmmmm id get the 1660

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because nvidia theo_angry

shy galleon
#

i mean

#

its kind of hard to choose which one

lime forge
#

1660

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boom

shy galleon
#

because im blessed with a microcenter

#

but which one

lime forge
#

1660

#

boom

#

whatevers cheap and isnt a bad brand

shy galleon
#

is that one overclockable or am i just a dumb dumb and think that gpus are overclockable

#

i dont know a lot about computers so shut up (jk)

pulsar garnet
#

1660Ti

shy galleon
#

but thats like 60 dollars more expensive

#

and im kind of on a tight budget

pulsar garnet
#

Ah okay

balmy canopy
#

1660 is best in that situation imo

daring beacon
#

Im new to pc gaming and I've decided I want to build my first pc. I have a budget of around $650, I have come up with a list of parts and im wondering if it is reasonable or if it could be better for the price.

deep skiff
#

ok

daring beacon
#

heres the list

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one sec

deep skiff
daring beacon
#

MSI GAMING GeForce GTX 1060 3GB GDDR5

NZXT H510

MSI Performance Gaming AMD Ryzen 1st and 2nd Gen AM4 M.2 USB 3 DDR4 DVI HDMI Micro-ATX Motherboard (B450M Gaming Plus)

Raidmax Hybrid 530W ATX12V/EPS12V Power Supply RX-530SS

WD Blue 2TB PC Hard Drive - 5400 RPM Class, SATA 6 Gb/s, 256 MB Cache, 3.5" - WD20EZAZ

Kingston Technology HyperX Fury Black 8GB 2666MHz DDR4 CL16 DIMM 1Rx8 (HX426C16FB2/8)

AMD 199-999575 Wraith Max Cooler with RGB LED
AMD Ryzen 5 2600 Processor with Wraith Stealth Cooler - YD2600BBAFBOX

deep skiff
#
  1. u can get a case for $30 less, the only important thing is ascetics
  2. 2tb is a lot of storage, go with 1tb at 7.2k rpm
  3. go with 16gb of ram 3000mhz
daring beacon
#

ok thx

deep skiff
#

and can u link the gpu?

daring beacon
#

yes

deep skiff
#

the only ones i see are overpriced

daring beacon
#

ill be back

deep skiff
#

if you can see if you can find a rx 580 for around the same price, so are the same price for a bit better performance

daring beacon
#

ok i will look

#

i found this

deep skiff
#

yeah thats a good model

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good cooling and 8gb of vram

daring beacon
#

ok

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and i found a case for $40

deep skiff
#

👍

daring beacon
#

ok, thanks for the help!

shy galleon
#

what do you guys think of this cpu and motherboard combo?

#

also can i overclock with this board?

snow forge
#

Yeah, seems so. Just looked at the reviews.

#

"I upgraded to this and have not had a single complaint. Over clocking is easy and I get 4ghz on my ryzen 1600 cpu easily. Definitely recommend."

shy galleon
#

oh snap okay

#

thanks

#

i forgot to read that

snow forge
#

"Bought this as part of a Ryzen 3700X bundle, an incredible deal for this motherboard. Have had zero issues with the BIOS and was able to overclock my Corsair Vengeance RGB 3000 (CL15) to 3333 (CL16) easily with the XMP Profile. The BIOS itself is a bit barebones in appearance but has everything you'd expect.
Be sure to check that this has enough headers for the case/peripherals you plan to use. I was a bit lax when preparing but lucked out and had the exact number of USB and fan headers that I needed."

shy galleon
#

lmao

snow forge
#

Are you going to be using RGB in the build?

shy galleon
#

nope a first time budget build

#

but a couple of lights and such

snow forge
#

Alright. Because the build doesn't seem to have any RGB headers.

shy galleon
#

im mostly going for performance

#

i dont care about lights r ight now

#

im just going for raw performance

#

and im also blessed with a micro center

snow forge
#

I was just making sure.

shy galleon
#

yeah thanks for the help

floral parrot
#

Best gaming pc for 800 dollars CAD

snow forge
#

Canadian? I'm working on one for you now. I'll translate it to CAD

#

Have you picked a case out, yet?

shy galleon
#

are you talking to @floral parrot ?

snow forge
#

Yeah

shy galleon
#

k just making sure lmao

snow forge
#

Your mobo and stuff is good now lol

floral parrot
#

Yeah I don't really care what it looks like but I want it to play GTAV at like high settings

snow forge
#

I never realized the difference between CAD and USD was so high

#

A $800 USD system is $1100 for you

floral parrot
#

Yeah it sucks

shy galleon
#

thats pretty annoying

#

is there a micro center in canada?

floral parrot
#

1 dollar Canadian is like 1.30 USD

shy galleon
#

or something like a micro center?

floral parrot
#

No

shy galleon
#

maybe you can come down to minnesota and shop

#

there is a micro center here

#

im just messing wit hyou

#

you dont have to do that

floral parrot
#

Lol there are conversations so it really wouldn't make any change

shy galleon
#

yeah its all good whatever works for you

floral parrot
#

For my new pc I want to build a 3600 and 5700XT when the AIB come out

shy galleon
#

ive heard bad things about the 5700xt because it overheats and stuff but if you can get some good colers then go ahead and get it

floral parrot
#

Yeah when 3rd partys make them they will have better cooling so I can leave it at stock and keep a good temp

shy galleon
#

but its pretty good price for performance

#

go for it my guy

snow forge
#

So hard to make a CAD build without taking away performance

floral parrot
#

Lol

shy galleon
#

yeah i get it

#

heck its hard enough for me because i dont make a lot of moneyh and just want a simple 600-700 dollar machine

#

not trying to complain

snow forge
#

That's around his budget CAD

floral parrot
#

Yeah I'm a kid so I don't pay taxes

shy galleon
#

lmao me neither

snow forge
#

$594*

#

@floral parrot

floral parrot
#

Wow that's a lot for what your getting

snow forge
#

WAIT

#

I messed up

#

Yup, forgot the RAM

floral parrot
#

Gammaxx 400

snow forge
#

Brings it up to 897$ CAD

floral parrot
#

Ok

snow forge
#

The MOBO in the build you want is eh

floral parrot
#

It's a great mobo

#

The one in my build

snow forge
#

They had some MEG issues with it

floral parrot
#

Whatever it will be fine

#

Or should I use 2nd gen ryzen?

snow forge
#

3rd gen is best for price.

floral parrot
#

But that is only board I can afford

snow forge
#

One sec, I'll look

#

Your x470 would need to be updated via another cpu or computer shop

#

This x570 won't need to be updated

floral parrot
#

To much $

snow forge
#

It's cheaper?

floral parrot
#

Oh I thought its was 299

snow forge
#

Yours is $215 USD, this one is $199 USD

floral parrot
#

No the other one is 215 CAD

daring beacon
#

whats a good speed for ram?

blazing bear
#

3k min

daring beacon
#

ok

blazing bear
#

all imo

shy galleon
#

so im kind of worried about getting this ram for my build

#

*when i get my build

#

because even though its some pretty good ram for the price

#

people are saying that you cant overclock it and it sticks at 2133mhz

#

and some people say it doesnt work

#

so idk what to do

coarse coral
#

check your motherboard manfact's qvl memory list of working memory

shy galleon
#

this is the motherboard that i was thinking about getting

#

ignore the cpu

coarse coral
shy galleon
#

yeah it supports it

#

i think

#

ooo and it can overclock

#

sorry im just figuring this out

coarse coral
#

no problem

shy galleon
#

so i think that the ram and motherboard combo is pretty good would you say?

#

also does the cpu come with thermal paste?

#

or do i have to buy it

coarse coral
#

should have some preapplied on the cooler th at comes with 2600

shy galleon
#

oh okay cool thanks for the info

#

and thanks for the help with the ram

#

appreciate it

little osprey
next tangle
#

Trying to stay under 1100$ (0-30$ over is fine with me)

#

If you guys have any things you think I should change that would stay under my budget then please edit that and link it again 😄

next tangle
#

I will be streaming, gaming, editing and sometimes rendering (rarely)

#

And recording

#

@little osprey would you happen to know if that would be good for me?

shy galleon
#

@next tangle i have a recommendation

#

if you want to save a couple of dollars

#

try this for an ssd

little osprey
#

@next tangle I would go with a dual fan cooled video card as the blower cooled cards usually get pretty hot sometimes to the point of the performance being throttled.

next tangle
#

I will be getting this toward the end of 2019 @little osprey so by then I think dual fan cards for the 5700 series will come out

#

hopefully

little osprey
#

@next tangle Yeah hopefully. There's been a lot of reports of the new 5700 series cards overheating. I was even watching AMD stream and one customer was complaining his card reached 107C, made an audible POP, and stopped working. He had to RMA.

fringe river
#

Intel Core i7-9700K
GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 2070 Super GAMING OC 8G
Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Ultra LGA 1151 ATX
G.Skill Trident Z RGB 16GB 2 x 8GB DDR4-3200
EVGA SuperNOVA 750 G+ 80 Plus Gold 750W Fully Modular
NZXT H500i RGB Tempered Glass ATX Mid-Tower
Hydro Series™ H100i Extreme Performance CPU Cooler 240mm
Never wanted to be that guy but will this work and fit in that case
its my first build

#

someone told me that was a bad cooler but idk what other aios that would fit and have a good warranty

modest pawn
#

My buddy uses an h100i so idk it’s all about preference

#

But yes that works. I have the h500i case and I love it. If you are looking for good cooling though the h500i is exhaust only

#

Not intake

fringe river
#

yeah ive been told it was just bad for airflow in general

#

what aio do you use

modest pawn
#

I use it and it’s fine. I’m using the Ryzen 3700x with the wraith cooler that comes with it. I’ve had no problems whatsoever

coarse coral
#

Front airflow is terrible

modest pawn
#

Ik 😦

#

But it’s okay it stays cool enough

fringe river
#

oh yeah im changing the case to a fractal meshify c

#

i forgot to change it on the thing

modest pawn
#

Yeah i wish I could’ve gotten one with better airflow but it’s fine. No problems

fringe river
#

so do you think that is a good mobo for all the stuff im going to plug into it

modest pawn
#

GB is pretty good for mobo, I have the X570

#

And it’s good cause ur video card is also GB

fringe river
#

yeah you're right

#

yeah im about to start gathering parts i want to make sure everything fits and everything can be plugged in

still roostBOT
#
🦀fps_low_af🦀#9371 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

fringe river
#

oof i forgot

coarse coral
#

Language

fringe river
#

it would suck for me to put this all together and not have it fit or work

lime forge
#

when building my dads computer we accidentally installed an extra standoff

#

had everything done, but then realized

#

and had to undo everything and get the stupid standoff off

#

but it was worth it because if not we coulda shorted it

#

$2000 gone

modest pawn
#

I didn’t need to put standoffs on

lime forge
#

um

fringe river
#

thats tuff i dont wanna do that at all ive watched bitwit and all those guys but im still gonna get with my friend that knows how to do this so he can help

#

i was editing the message and i forgot to take that out 🙃

warm nova
#

some cases come with the standoffs installed, some don't, some cases don't need standoffs. Always check to be sure which you have before installing the board. Most of the time a modern powersupply will stop you from killing your hardware, but its still very possible depending on what is shorted.

fringe river
#

gotcha

warm nova
#

everywhere I said boards I meant cases

#

im gonna edit that

fringe river
#

alright lol

#

yo do you recommend a 240mm aio i can go ive heard alot of different stuff about products

warm nova
#

also always check to make sure the standoffs are tight even if they were preinstalled. it sucks if you need to remove your board for some reason and all the standoffs come loose

#

I am a big fan of aio's

#

just make sure there is clearance

fringe river
#

gotcha guess ill stick with that corsair cooler

#

its on sale too bett

warm nova
#

A build I did a few years ago I thought i was good, but I was about 1mm short and my gpu wouldnt fit because it was hitting the fans on my aio. ended up having to mod the case to get everything to fit

fringe river
#

yikes

#

im going to mount the rad in front of the case

warm nova
#

it was an easy fix and only took about 5 minutes, and I would have probably still ordered the same parts either way. I initially did my math based on a corsair h100 and ended up getting an h105 with a thicker radiator because it was on sale but didnt think to do the math again after I changed the parts

modest pawn
#

Yah the h500i has preinstalled standoffs

#

I wish the front had holes 😦

lapis bear
#

Hey! I'm trying to build a video machine. I have two old zotac 1070 GPU's an an MSI z270-a pro motherboard. trying to figure out what size case i need

#

some say mini, mid, full

#

atx

lime forge
#

anything that can fit an ATX motherboard

#

and has enough space for 2 gpus

#

id say go mix atx or full atx

lapis bear
#

okay, so anything that says atx, but not atx mini or anything like that eh?

lime forge
#

for dual gpus, nah

lapis bear
#

so a mid would probably work though?

lime forge
#

yeah

lapis bear
#

awesome, thanks for the tips!

lime forge
#

sure

#

also just check the length of the gpu and make sure the case specs list larger than that

#

also probably dont wanna cut it too close either

scarlet spear
#

neat

deep skiff
#

Might also want to consider selling both gpu’s and getting like a rx 5700xt tho

#

sli is pretty much dead

shy galleon
#

yeah it kind of is

#

okay i have a question

#

it says that items that are over 25 dollars are free shipping

#

but it still says that i need to pay 65 dollars in shipping so im kind of confused

sick thistle
#

I need help so there’s nothing wrong with the hub all the led’s work some reason when I plug into the 6 slot on the hub the led won’t turn on I tried switching the hub out and also I tried switching it to different USB port

📎 image1.jpg 📎 image0.jpg
shy galleon
#

is there any amazon pros in here to help me out?

next tangle
coarse coral
#

@next tangle your motherboard has 3 connectors for chassis fan control. if buy 3 2in1 pwm spitter cables you can run all of those fans

next tangle
next tangle
#

@coarse coral https://www.ebay.com/itm/3-4-Pin-PWM-To-Dual-PWM-Power-Y-Splitter-Adapter-Cable-for-CPU-PC-Case-Fan-New/263589957294?hash=item3d5f2f8eae%3Ag%3ABTQAAOSwLe5axHID&LH_BIN=1 could I trust that?

eBay
3/4 Pin PWM To Dual PWM Power Y-Splitter Adapter Cable for CPU PC ...

These 26cm extension cables allow you more choice in where you want to position your PWM or standard 3 pin fans inside your case. The wires are 26cm sleeved in black braiding with a 4pin female connector at 1 end and splits to 2 4pin male connectors at the other.

cloud compass
#

an yone has a few mins to answer a few pc temp questions

#

whats a good fan curve for the cpu i am using(its the 8700k) default or a custom or full 100%

coarse coral
#

Air cool or aio

cloud compass
#

i have game boost on and xmp and a curve of at 75 to use 100% fan, 65 to use 64%, at 50 to use 40% and at 35 to use 25% of fans now.

#

air

#

i have the hype 212

coarse coral
#

What cpu

cloud compass
#

8700k

coarse coral
#

Sorry half asleep haha

cloud compass
#

np

coarse coral
#

Under 70 is usually ideal

#

You could make high end tighter if you don't mind noise

cloud compass
#

i had cpu z running for like 10 mins at its at 73

#

like what would you say would be a better setting

coarse coral
#

I haven't turned on my PC with th e hyper 212 in a while but I ran it pretty agressively to keep my old fx comp

#

Do you have a lot of intake air coming in?

cloud compass
#

i have the storm trooper case, the top 240 fan is a intake, i have the 2 120 blowing in from left to right and thats a intake and the rear is the out

#

and the power supply is aimed down to the vent holes

left jay
coarse coral
#

@cloud compass you could make your curve after 50c to be higher if you're paranoid about heat like I am

cloud compass
#

yea i dont want heat lol but what about the life of the fans

#

these are the numbers as i was runing the cpuz stree test

#

also is it normal for the package of the cpu to go from like 38-40 to 58 for a sec then back down to the 38-40 when idle?

coarse coral
#

Yeah, the CPU heats up whenever you do something that requires it calculations including launching apps

next tangle
#

@coarse coral could you help me out a little?

coarse coral
#

with

next tangle
#

So right now I'm probably gonna spend 3-400$ for an upgrade

#

I wanna upgrade some stuff in it for under 3-400$

#

But I don't know what

#

Do you have any suggestions? @coarse coral

coarse coral
#

well...

#

cant upgrade anything besides cpu mobo and memory at the same time

#

thats going to cost a pretty penny

#

you cant recycle the cpu mobo or memory into a new upgrade

next tangle
#

How come I can't recycle?

#

I'm sure I can sell those on ebay

#

Or like craigslist and stuff like that

leaden dawn
#

Recycle as reuse any of them in the new build

#

What do you want the system for

next tangle
#

Streaming

leaden dawn
#

Streaming what

next tangle
#

Games like fortnite

coarse coral
#

because he older cpu wont fit or work with the newer motherboards and memory

#

new boards, different sockets, different memory (ddr4 vs. the older ddr3)

next tangle
#

True

leaden dawn
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I mean, if you are tight on a budget, I would try small upgrades, maybe an 8 core fx

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8350?

leaden dawn
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2000 ram, whatever better card you can afford after that

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Yeah, might want to avoid the 9xxx though

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Yeah

coarse coral
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i wouldnt waste money on FX line anymore

leaden dawn
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Those were made after most fx boards, and they can't handle the extra power needed

coarse coral
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you're just spending money on something that came out 6+ years ago

next tangle
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True

leaden dawn
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Jeez, feeling old now

next tangle
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Lol

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Me?

leaden dawn
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Typoz

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Oh lol

leaden dawn
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I mean, fx was always a solid processor in my opinion, was paying Doom 2016 on my 9590 system the other day

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After my gigabyte board blew up, I bought the only board that seemed able to handle it, asus crosshair

next tangle
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Even though there will be bottle necking, what if I just got a 5700 and spent 50$ on ram

coarse coral
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i had a fx8350

leaden dawn
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But yeah, it still is a bit silly to spend money there

coarse coral
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it bottlenecks on everything

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the single core performance was terrible and if you're planning to do FX line your plans to game and stream at the same time will be terrible

leaden dawn
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But the fact is, you're either doing a complete system upgrade

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Or dealing with the silly fact of spending money on it

next tangle
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Would 500$ for an upgrade be better

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I am using a prebuilt pc so I dont even know the ram, cpu cooler and psu

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I'm just guessing for those parts

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And my ram speed is some type of speed you can't get

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1333mhz I believe

leaden dawn
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You would need new ram too

next tangle
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Ik

coarse coral
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A new psu?

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How come?

leaden dawn
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Unfortunately I haven't built a budget system in a while, so I don't know the best bang for buck stuff. Built myself a thread ripper machine to celebrate paying off my college loans last lol

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Oh

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Even though this is a little over 400$

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How about that

coarse coral
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i wouldn't go anything lower than 2600 or 3600

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What about what I linked

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Since I need to stream x264

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Wont stream gpu

leaden dawn
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Does that mobo support that ram speed?

next tangle
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Since I have a 560 2gb notast2BearCry

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I believe so

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If my parents say yes, I can add a gpu

coarse coral
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no it doesnt @leaden dawn

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its going to downclock it to 3466

leaden dawn
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It's a pretty high speed, so I was a bit skeptical

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Probably best to save money and just get slower ram

coarse coral
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it wont matter much past 3200/3400 for gaming

next tangle
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Oh how do you know it cant?

leaden dawn
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I have an expensive board and it doesn't even support it's advertised 3600 without messing with voltages

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It should show it in specifications

coarse coral
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research the board for what speeds it can support

leaden dawn
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Usually has a long list of all the speeds

next tangle
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Yeah I just checked

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Can it go to 3600?

leaden dawn
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Just from the thumbnail, seems the OC speed is 3533

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Which I didn't even know was a standard speed

next tangle
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Ikr

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So can I just get the 3600mhz?

pulsar garnet
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Just stick to 3200MHz

leaden dawn
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I mean, why? You would end up spending less money in slower ram

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I don't know how much you're willing to get into overclocking either

next tangle
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True

pulsar garnet
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Stick to 8-16GB 3200MHz

leaden dawn
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But an OC speed is very rarely going to just work

pulsar garnet
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Get a 2600 or 3600 CPU

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I think gigabyte B450M is about $73

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Why not the 1700x since I will probably be using a 560 2gb

pulsar garnet
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What do you need a 700W PSU for

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Idk there is a 600w same one for 2 dollars less

coarse coral
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the 2600 is 30 dollars cheaper and has better single core performance

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soooooo

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i recommend you do that

pulsar garnet
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^^^

leaden dawn
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My thread ripper build runs on 750W for perspective lol

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pulsar garnet
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2600 isn't going to need a 700W PSU

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But it's just 2$ more than 600w

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And this is for now for like a few months

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I will soon go with like a 5700xt and 3600 or x

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When I say a few months, I mean 5-7 months

pulsar garnet
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Why don't you save the $400 you have now and use it then for a better upgrade?

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Idk

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Might as well get a 3600 now if you're planning a 5700 later

leaden dawn
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Try to hold off on the PSU, use that to get 3600, and buy PSU with video card later

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Okay

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So keep the psu I have now

leaden dawn
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At 65W, I'm sure what you have now is fine

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I forgot who but someone in #building-and-recc-chat sent me a picture of a lot of b350 and x470 mobos that can flash

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Bios flash

leaden dawn
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You mean flashing the bios? As in upgrading?

next tangle
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Yes

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So it can support 3td gen

leaden dawn
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Oh, dunno about that specifically, but it usually is a thing

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I'd it's the right socket, you should be fine

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The only time it's a problem is like when the 9590s stupidly high power draw blew up my older fx board

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Oh

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There

coarse coral
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if you dont mind bios updating sure

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but the 3600 comes with a cooler already

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True

pulsar garnet
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I don't think you need that cooler

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I was about to say

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But can it handle a bit of ocing?

coarse coral
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if you're telling us you're on a certain budget, i wouldn't oc

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Oh

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Since I put that cpu cooler away

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Can I hold in

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On

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Hiw about that

coarse coral
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do you really need rgb

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on that memory

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hahaha

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Lol well it's cheap for 77$

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And yes I like rgb Yes

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So should I go with the 3600x?

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Well ttyl I'm gonna head to bed

shy galleon
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so if i buy this case

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do i need extra fans to cool everything?

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or no

sudden turret
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probably, looks like it only comes with 80mm exhaust fan

shy galleon
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shoot

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@sudden turret will i survive without fans? im on a very strict budget and i dont want to spend a lot more then needed

sudden turret
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3pack of fans are inexpensive.

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save a little more, then not worry about stuff over heating.,

lime forge
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i helped someone else build a pc with a case like that

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graphics card wouldnt go in

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he took it to a computer shop and they cut a bunch of metal and gave him this back :/

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sudden turret
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what the fu?>

naive ore
coarse coral
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Cpu is lacking

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@shy galleon do you have prime?

deep skiff
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@naive ore might want a slightly better cooler on the 9400k