#building-and-recc-chat

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wet sable
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now i have to get one within the next month or so

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so yeah if i saw it ahead of time i wouldve bought in september πŸ˜”

stoic island
wet sable
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thats why ive mostly been shopping prebuilt atm

icy hull
wet sable
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its like half gaming half like development stuff

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so i might actually do some machine learning stuff in the future

stoic island
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Unfortunately AI kinda locks you into Nvidia for now, otherwise 9060xt may be a nice option

wet sable
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yeah

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so yeah thats why i was thinking to get an i7 instead of maybe something like an i5 or an amd cpu

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for games im not really that fancy maybe the most intensive game i can think of is like final fantasy 7 remake

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or like guilty gear

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LOL

stoic island
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Could you tell us what exactly you're expecting from the "i7" label?

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Nowadays even if you're multitasking, the extra E cores on something like the 14600kf will be more than enough

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Unless you're doing something that specifically requires more than 6 P cores

wet sable
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like i might do a little bit of video editing/3d rendering/might also run some virtual machines

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i heard the i7 is a bit better for stuff like that compared ot the i5

icy hull
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Somewhat. If you want to render anything using the cpu instead of the gpu then it's a noticeable gap. If you're going to do video work and getting an intel cpu it would be a good idea to pay a bit more for a non-f model.

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F means they disabled the igpu and you don't get access to quicksync.

stoic island
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Nowadays it generally doesn't make sense to make that upgrade unless you're doing major projects very often, spending 5 minutes instead of spending 4 minutes 45 seconds to render a small video project periodically isn't worth the price difference imo

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And I'd say E cores are perfect if your goal is to just have a bunch of light vms running at the same time

wet sable
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so from that perspective its not really worth trying to go for the i7 in that case?

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for perspective im currently on a i7-8700

stoic island
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It sounds like video editing or rendering isn't a major part of what you're planning on using the PC for, in that case, I'd say making the upgrade from 14600 to 14700 is not worthwhile

frigid edge
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yeah 14600kf is plenty

stoic island
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I wouldn't generalize it too much to i5 to i7, but it applies to those specific parts

frigid edge
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so going i7 and i9 isnt needed much

icy hull
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Having lots of cores is important if you're regularly doing something that's heavily multithreaded like compressions, rendering, encoding and want it to go faster.
With prebuilts it can be more about what you can find a good deal on when you're looking rather than trying to find exactly what would make the most sense if doing diy.
Prebuilts aren't likely to have the high end unlocked i5-k models. You'll see mostly locked cpus like 14400/f, 14700/f, 225/f or 265/f.

frigid edge
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unless you really doing something insanely taxing

wet sable
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ohh okay that makes sense

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then in my case do you guys think its worth looking at prebuilts and stuff

wet sable
icy hull
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At the cheaper end of the market they can be better priced currently. $1500-2000 is kind of in the middle ground where it'll be about the same cost but you can pick ssd, motherboard, power supply that you know aren't out of the bargain bin when you do diy.

stoic island
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It's still worth looking for prebuilt deals but I'd say you have more flexibility and a higher chance of being able to build something better using bundles

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Don't completely ignore deals, but also don't rely on prebuilts as the only option

wet sable
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oh okay i see

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seeing i might need to spend like 500 on ram makes me sad though haha

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the prebuilts mask that a bit for me 😭

stoic island
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The end goal is to look for bundle deals like the one covante sent earlier

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The list I sent is just a baseline with singular part choices

wet sable
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ahh okay

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thanks so much!

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i think the only thing id realliy change in the list you sent is the cases and stuff

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i dont need my pc to look fancy or anything haha

icy hull
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I don't like them either. I was picking something cheap and with similar aethetic to the prebuilts you mentioned. For budget cases that come with fans, the argb ones are usually cheaper than plain or the plain ones you'd have to buy a set of aftermarket fans to install.

wet sable
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ohh okay i see

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i'll take a closer look at the fans/cases you recommended again

stoic island
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My criteria for cases is just price, airflow, and does it come with fans lol

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Aesthetics is usually low priority

wet sable
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ohhh i see

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im just trying to look through the bundles on random websites rn to see if theres anything nice

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but if it gets super complicated/pricey maybe i might just get a prebuilt instead 🫠

icy hull
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With argb (addressable) they're controllable and will be easy to disable and just turn them back into plain fans. Some cases uses frbg (fixed) and they don't always have an off switch for the lights.

wet sable
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oh good to know

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i didn't know the difference between the two

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thanks!

nimble lintel
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About to build my second pc any suggestions :)

twilit pewter
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I am confused to why there is a random case fan and then an RGB one, why not duplicate?

mental hazel
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economy's rough man

wary stone
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Hey I'm building a pc and I have a question

nimble lintel
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Cost double than normal corsair fans

wary stone
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So I have a MSI mpg core liquid p13 360mm aio and I'm looking to replace the stock fans I plan to replace them with Arctic p12 pro or the non pro p12s which would be better for top mounted aio with fans set to exhaust through the radiator

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My case is the hyte y60

median wedge
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Hi, I am currently looking to buy a new pc in order to play some games (mainly valorant, but also want to be able to run other titles well, like rocket league, fortnite, and apex, etc. ). I found this stormcraft prebuild online (https://www.newegg.com/stormcraft-sirius-gaming-desktop-pc-geforce-rtx-5060-intel-core-i5-14400f-16gb-ddr4-1tb-ssd-si1440fbb-560n2/p/N82E16883420040?Item=N82E16883420040) and thought it was a pretty good build where I'd get very good fps for valorant. I tried seeing about building one but it looks like it would end up being more expensive and much more of a hassle, so I am thinking of going with the prebuilt. I mainly just wanted to know if this is a good option for the price, or if there are any issues or anything I should look out for. This would be my first actual pc so I am looking for any advice or suggestions if anyone could help me out. Thanks!

crimson zinc
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<@&525119001324683264>

frigid edge
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Currently figuring out if I’m in danger bro sorry

icy hull
# median wedge Hi, I am currently looking to buy a new pc in order to play some games (mainly v...

Currently at around $1000 prebuilts are often as good or better value against equivalent specs diy with how crazy ram and ssd prices have gotten as well as gpus going up. That one would be a pretty good price for the specs. Plenty capable of getting good fps in esports games like those you mentioned.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FT3BjG If you wanted to build your own around $1000 I'd probably do something like this which gives you about a significantly better cpu for gaming performance and ddr5 ram for about an extra $100. Esports games are mostly cpu bound unless you crank the settings up on something like fortnite.
https://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails?ItemList=Combo.4855503 cpu, motherboard, memory
https://www.newegg.com/asus-dual-rtx5060-o8g-geforce-rtx-5060-8gb-graphics-card-double-fans/p/N82E16814126807?item=N82E16814126807 gpu
https://www.newegg.com/tools/combo-builder/6675 Ssd and power supply

Pros of building your own is you can choose whatever parts you like; individual parts have a longer warranty, typically 3-5 years, than a standard prebuilt, typically 1 or 2 years; and you familiarize yourself with how a pc goes together which can make upgrading later more accessible and if you ever need to do any troubleshooting or repairs/replacement being familiar will make that easier too before you have to resort to paying a repair shop; and setting up your own software familiarizes you with that as well so you know how to install windows, update drivers and some other basic stuff.
Pros of a prebuilt are you don't have to spend time doing any of that if you don't want to, the warranty will cover the entire system so you don't have to do any unguided troubleshooting yourself, if something fails you can just send it back for them to fix (you may be responsible for shipping cost).
Biggest con of a prebuilt is they pick the cheapest stuff they believe will outlast the warranty period for items like cooler, ssd, motherboard and power supply.

crimson zinc
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<@&1344082385423040512>

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I think this is the right techie to call

median wedge
cyan plaza
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$1,249.99
$1,549.99

coarse coral
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@lime forge 5_Hmm

crimson fox
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Oof

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Singled out even

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Lel

coarse coral
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hes the one that suggested this channel LOL

lavish tendon
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soooo.... what shall we chat about in build chats?

crimson fox
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@coarse coral I see that now, I just assumed, so yeah that's a phat rip on me

coarse coral
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we had to keep #build-pics text free so we talk about whatever people want to talk about their builds @lavish tendon

lavish tendon
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yeah, i saw that earlier, should i just swoop my text from over in that channel and put it here?

coarse coral
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sure

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some other mod is going to start deleting text there periodically if it isn't specs

lavish tendon
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can i just take a moment to appreciate that wire management from TheCheapest earlier yesterday? laughNao

crimson fox
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@coarse coral If you don't mind, I'd like to suggest renaming "build-pics" to "build-pic-submissions" so that people are encouraged to remember that it is looked at for the Newegg stream and such -- to keep conversation in this stream.

coarse coral
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we should be fineeeeeeee

crimson fox
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Yeet πŸ‘Œ

lavish tendon
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wait theo, do YOU have a pic of your build?

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πŸ€”

coarse coral
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its somewhere

crimson fox
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PCMR Yes

lavish tendon
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yeahhh, i found it after scrolling up until 05/05/2019

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i see GSkill RAM, Corsair H60i AIO, ROG GPU, and thats about it.... Am i right?

crimson fox
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I like the choice of red πŸ‘Œ

coarse coral
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h80i v2

lavish tendon
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w8, you have a TEN TB HDD??? shocked

dapper gorge
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πŸ€”

little osprey
lavish tendon
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my god, what have you done?

coarse coral
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dats some fast ass ram

lavish tendon
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4600.... damn

little osprey
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that

dapper gorge
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damn

little osprey
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that's the 2nd kit

lavish tendon
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how much? $300+???

little osprey
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was likr $480 for 8x2 when I bought them

lavish tendon
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ooof

coarse coral
lavish tendon
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i was kinda in a similar boat, more of a dumb choice thou....

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i bought a 2x4gb kit of 3600mhz when i build my system, bare in mind that i only had a R5 1600x....

little osprey
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dumb choice on my part... could have got 32BG of 3200 CL14 for roughly the same price

lavish tendon
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the kit was like $200 for only 8gb....

little osprey
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3600? for Ryzen? daaaang...

lavish tendon
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yeah.... dumb choice

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i can ONLY reach 3000mhz, lol

little osprey
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I had my ram pushed to 5133MHz when a stick died

lavish tendon
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and when i decide to finally get 16gb, it was still like $120 to get anoth 2x4gb

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i just bought a COrsair kit of 2x8gb 3200 for only $80, thats going in soon

dapper gorge
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I don't want to risk it, because I tried to increase a ram 2666 to 3200 and the result is probably you know XD

lavish tendon
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yeahhh.... bad choice my friend

little osprey
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boot loop?

lavish tendon
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unless you have a B-Die

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then it MIGHT be possible

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but those only start at 3200 CL14

little osprey
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i went up by 66 to 100MHz at a time starting at 3800MHz because it didn't like it.

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my best benchmarks were at 3800MHz CL16

lavish tendon
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now funny story, my case doesnt actually fit my H100i AIO in the top if i were to use Vengence RAM, only LPX works, so in my stupididty (and need of RGB) i decided to front mount my rad, but it would mean i would need to remove my drive cage.... but theres nowhere else to put my 2 hdds, so i decided to SPLIT MOUNT my rad and fans.... ill send pics so you can see.....

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it was actually kinda funny figuring this out... it looks like CRAP but hey, if it works, it works

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(if your wondering about case, this is a Corsair Spec-Alpha)

little osprey
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see all that room at the bottom of your case? get yourself a drill and go town. you can mount that drive bay to the bottom

lavish tendon
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ugh

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i want to SELL this case when i upgrade in the future, i dont think people want a redneck-style moded case....

little osprey
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you're probably right

lavish tendon
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i settled on this as my final solution

little osprey
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man... I can't wait for my computer to get here... I've missed it

lavish tendon
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i have a static INTAKE on the bottom and top... the hot air from the rad started crashing my system because the gpu was too hot

little osprey
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That's how I had it with the 1080ti

lavish tendon
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damn.... with mine was that clean

little osprey
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That's now

lavish tendon
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my case has NO ROOM for cable management, what you see is like the best anyone could probably do

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i like those custom cables, looks nice

long jetty
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I went kinda overkill on the case roomwise

little osprey
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I'm going to do a full custom loop while I'm here in Korea

long jetty
lavish tendon
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more room is better, more air so the system can 'breath'

little osprey
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almost so much that you nearly ran out of AIO loop lol

coarse coral
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if you want your system featured on the tuesday june 26th stream post it in the #build-pics channel

lavish tendon
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already did ^_^

little osprey
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I'll wait until my new monitor gets in

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that thing is going to be fire

lavish tendon
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I'm personally more proud of the custom build i made a friend, she needed a small case that could fit her dorm in college

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What monitor?

little osprey
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the Aorus AD27QD

long jetty
little osprey
lavish tendon
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i mean.... that PSU is looking nice

little osprey
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I have spent stupid money on this rig

lavish tendon
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oh.... that Monitor is basically the same as mine, though a different brand

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144hz 1440p is SOO nice when gaming

little osprey
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you got the Predator?

lavish tendon
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nah, i got a MSI Optix MAG27CQ

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literally, my ENTIRE setup is NOTHING but MSI and Corsair

little osprey
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I wanted it, but it isn't on the list of Gsync compatible

lavish tendon
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(and a Acer 2nd monitor)

little osprey
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then Gigabyte came out with this one and I had to grit my teeth and save for it

lavish tendon
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mine is "compatible" but.... theres some issues

little osprey
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Aorus "claims" they hand pick panels that have been verified by Nvidia. we'll see

lavish tendon
little osprey
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can't be any worse than the Dell I had to return a few months back.

lavish tendon
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yeah

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see, it will 'work' with GSync, but its not VALIDATED

little osprey
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I will eventually get a 2nd Aorus monitor, but that'll be a few months (or a year) from now

lavish tendon
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id say get a 1080p 240hz since that would give you options

little osprey
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validated is what I mean, not verified

lavish tendon
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yeah

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i knew what you meant, lol

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like my next monitor will probably be that 240hz since i play A LOT of competative games and while 144hz is more than enough, i say the faster the better

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MSI of course

little osprey
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I'll probably get a 240Hz, as long as they match

lavish tendon
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they should

little osprey
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BAH! Aorus' 240Hz is a 25"

lavish tendon
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it do be like that sometimes....

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ill probably just get a different brand monitor, then just slap a 'MSI' sticker on the logo

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lol

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personally though, the FIRST think i need to upgrade is a chair.... its SOOO bad

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i dont really know of this qualifies as a 'build pic' but oh well, heres my "Gaming Chair" feel free to laugh at it if you want, im getting a new one soon anyway

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i thinks that a 110-120 degree angle.... i can't really tell

coarse coral
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leaned back too hard?

lavish tendon
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nah, i'd just say the $80 amazon chair doesn't like a 6'2" 230 lb person on it ExtremeKek

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for 3 years aswell..... im still shocked it hasn't just snapped in half at this point

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oh also, should i put my build descriptions AND pictures in this chat, or just the descriptions?

coarse coral
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if you want

sudden turret
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@lavish tendon I have that same chair, with that exact problem lol.

coarse coral
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New chairs for both of you

sudden turret
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I tried, but you won it.

coarse coral
little osprey
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dO GaMinG ChaIrS ImpROVe YoUR FpS?

coarse coral
little osprey
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FBI

jagged otter
signal wolf
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A DVD drive, you don't see that very often these days πŸ˜›

lime forge
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@signal wolf >:)

signal wolf
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My last build had two drives, and I know you can still get cases with them, but I can't even think of what I'd use it for anymore.

lime forge
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movies

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if u dont wanna buy a tv

signal wolf
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I don't even have one on my TV either, all digital my dude.

lime forge
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hm

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we have a lot of disc movies

lime sigil
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I like disc drives more convenient to have them rather than not having

signal wolf
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I find digital codes online when I buy movies, and when I run it through Movies Anywhere it goes to my Google Play, iTunes, Vudu, Amazon, XBOX, etc.

Yeah I'm not hating on the disc drive at all, it's just crazy to even think about with PCs now.

lime forge
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a lot of current style-based cases just dont even have the spaces for it

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movies anywhere is great

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you either get style or functionality :(

wraith helm
lime forge
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we've had that blu ray disc drive since like 2009

vital geyser
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Thats a big case

lime forge
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@cosmic jackal do you have a plastic floor mat?

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lol wheeled chairs on carpet

prisma trail
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as someone with a rolly chair on a rug

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it pains me deeply

cosmic jackal
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I built my wife a computer out of my old parts and got a nice case from deepcool for 47$

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Blu ray solution was 40$

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Good for backing up invaluable stuff. A disc wont fail randomly over 20 years

naive moon
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can i show you guys my pc and you tell me what you think its my first build

versed tree
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sure

prisma trail
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go for it

marble lion
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wow you people who have money to buy nice PC's

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and it don't

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i'm poor

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lol

prisma trail
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same

coarse coral
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its okay

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they are broke after buying new pc

versed tree
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it took me 2 years to save

naive moon
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there my pc

prisma trail
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what's the model number?

elder canyon
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Its case is all fans πŸ˜‚

naive moon
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fan,fan fo life

elder canyon
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Hows the airflow

naive moon
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i get -100c on cpu

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im also seling gaming bananas

naive moon
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there vr readey

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that is close to my gaming bannanas

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there vr ready

prisma trail
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okey doke, so a 1050Ti then?

naive moon
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no 2080 ti

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for the gaming bananas

prisma trail
empty locust
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Whoot

little osprey
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?

prime badge
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o wow expesive

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it would be very lucky if I win a giveaway

lime forge
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@fast dagger thats like the coolest pc ive ever seen

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for aesthetics at least

fast dagger
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Thanks man!

lime forge
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whats the spec? @fast dagger

fast dagger
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i9 9900k, asus Strix 2080ti, Maximus cig formula mobo, 32gb 3600mhz ram

lime forge
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loerhsujglhnbcfvb

fast dagger
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All fully custom painted and obviously custom hairline tubes

lime forge
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it looks good and it performs well

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N I C E

fast dagger
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Unfortunately not mine just a clients

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And he’s 16 😩

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But thanks man!

lime forge
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rip

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yeah np

fast dagger
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I love how crazy I went with the tubes but how clean it remained I wish I could keep it

lime forge
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it looks amazing

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cant wait to see it without paper towels too lol

fast dagger
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Lol gotta get all the air out of the system and test for leaks. I’m going to do a photo shoot this weekend

lime forge
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yeah definitely

fast dagger
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But.... here’s a quick snap

lime forge
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lol every time i see it i think the coolant is milk

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but wow

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thats amazing

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its so perfect

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woah there

lime forge
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@fast dagger just be careful with the adult jokes

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i love the build pics and id hate for u to get banned

fast dagger
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They are that strict here? Had no idea new in here sorry admin lol

lime forge
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theyre not gonna ban u on ur first time lol

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its ok

sudden turret
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Yeah this is the Official Newegg discord

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PG-13 πŸ˜‰

bright summit
sudden turret
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oooh nice.

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That is a nice wifi card.

bright summit
sudden turret
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my only dislike with it, is it gets a bit hot.

bright summit
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Wifi card is lovely. So are the LL120 fans lol

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Haven’t had liquid cooling in a bit either

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Kinda forgot the weird sound it makes within the first ten minutes of running

limpid merlin
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could use a little cable management on the gpu but other than that nice build

chilly marsh
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god i just noticed it wtf

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lmao you got some muto crap from godzilla going on here lmao

bright summit
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Yeah idk i think i forgot to pull that one back πŸ˜‚

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Dont judge meee

oak radish
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Why is general locked

wanton sail
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hes testing something i guesss

gaunt zinc
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Fixed

autumn depot
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Hello πŸ‘‹ im looking for some advice

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I’m new to comp and looking to get into a nice comp that being said I found this one for a good price I think just looking for a little input

sudden turret
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πŸ˜„

autumn depot
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I ok thank you sorry for wrong spot

sudden turret
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'sok πŸ˜„

sturdy narwhal
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What do you guys think?

unborn jewel
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God, I love those cases.

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Wish I'd bought one.

muted nimbus
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lucky!!!

dusky shell
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Carbide 04 series is dank af

heady flower
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The dream lol

little osprey
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I think I need your chair

sturdy narwhal
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Thanks guys! I’ll send another picture when I’ve got my desk painted and my new room set up.

little osprey
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I’m going to be building my first PC in a week so excited! Getting inspiration from here. I’m going to have RGB lighting but the components come from different brands. Has anyone been able to tinker with their lighting to make it look synchronized with different branding/light software before?

coarse coral
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depends are you going rgb or ARGB route

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and certain ecosystems don't play nicely with others D:

little osprey
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Awe that sucks to hear. As for the specifics idk the fans come with the cooler master case and the motherboard is MSI

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Both just say β€œrgb” so I am not sure if they are just RGB or ARGB

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Guess I’ll find out?

coarse coral
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coolermaster case/fans will work with most basic eco systems

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msi's ecosystem is mystic light and as far as i know coolermaster should support it

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figure out if its rgb or argb because rgb and argb have different pin connections

little osprey
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Awesome ty so much!

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I will keep that in mind! I’m nervous to be starting out my first build with also RGB but it should be a fun learning experience!

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I appreciate your advice so much!

coarse coral
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if you have any more questions feel free to ask these nerds.

muted nimbus
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Nice im starting my own first build also

sturdy narwhal
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So that picture I sent earlier today is my new room’s setup in progress (moving) and this is what I’ve got in my room at the house I’m in now.

prisma trail
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swanky

sturdy narwhal
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Haha thanks!

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I just got the fans in the front

prisma trail
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corsair fans?

sturdy narwhal
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I almost got Corsair, but they’re called Asiahorse

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So far they seem really good!

prisma trail
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oh yeah

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i'll be πŸ’― with you

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cheap chinese fans are WAY better than they used to be

sturdy narwhal
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That’s good to hear!

chilly marsh
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i heard of asiahorse

sturdy narwhal
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You scared me for a sec lol, I was like oh no I didn’t look into them enough did I

chilly marsh
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was thinking about them but got cheap 5 pack rgb fans lol

sturdy narwhal
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Haha I got 3 for $36 USD

chilly marsh
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mine were like 35 dollars to

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too*

sturdy narwhal
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Hey those look nice actually!

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Price is way low too

prisma trail
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yeah

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and they're incredibly well reviewed

sturdy narwhal
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I like that my fans don’t just look like a LED bar around, but the fan itself reflects the lights, so it looks like the whole thing is LED

prisma trail
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they're pretty blatant Corsair rip-offs

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but

sturdy narwhal
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Lol

chilly marsh
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im saving up to upgrade to corsair rgb fans

sturdy narwhal
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Nice

lime forge
#

those things are nice but e x p e n s i v e

dim hornet
#

I7-8700
Asus z370e- gaming
2x8gb trident gskill 3600 rgb
Evga 1070 ftw2
3 x Corsair LL120
Aio CORSAIR H150i platinum
Evga 850GQ 80+gold psu
970 evo 500gb
860 evo 1x500 gb, 1x 1tb
Phanteks p400s

lime forge
#

like 130 for 3 of em

prisma trail
#

yeah

sturdy narwhal
#

I’m debating building a second computer out of previous parts, or really I’m debating keeping components as I upgrade, and using what’s left to build another.

prisma trail
#

do it man

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it's practice

sturdy narwhal
#

True! I do need as much practice as I can get lol

prisma trail
#

i've built so many PCs for people

chilly marsh
#

which is why im saving up for em

#

its like 90-100 for 3 of em

#

im getting 4 corsair fans

sturdy narwhal
#

Nice Matt!

chilly marsh
#

3 140s and 1 120s

dim hornet
#

I wanted 140’s up top , but I can’t squeeze them in

chilly marsh
#

i want 140s all around

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but it only supports 3 and one 120

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so im fine with taht

#

that

rough hornet
sturdy narwhal
#

Nice!

gray trench
#

needs more RGB!!!!1

sturdy narwhal
opal tartan
#

it's a v clean setup. no rgb needed. i think adding a small, fake plant and cleaning up the desk a bit would really tie things together. phone stand if you care. tie the loose cables behind the monitor stand and you got yourself a v clean setup.

limpid merlin
#

why fake plant when you could get a small cactus or succulent, they look better and barely need any water lol

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they live for quite a while too

prisma trail
#

for all your succulent needs πŸ‘€

limpid merlin
#

oh course there's a subreddit for succulents

gray trench
#

why are those so pretty

limpid merlin
#

exactly, gonna get 1-3 when I revamp my setup to give it a little life

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Now I have to look up where to buy succulents close to me

gray trench
#

gonna get a bonsai

limpid merlin
#

That's too much effort for me

rich crystal
#

looking to build a pc , had a friend throw this together real quick as kind of a idea guide

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any pointers/ideas, i am new to pc building

fading olive
#

most of it is good, but those fractal design cases aren't the best

rich crystal
#

actually i planned on getting a different case, i wasnt a fan of the one he picked on that list

fading olive
#

are you deadset on intel?

rich crystal
#

no i suppose not, everyone ive talked to has said to go intel

fading olive
#

i mean its up to you, but amd is moving up there and it's definitely more bang for your buck

rich crystal
#

i have heard a few good things about the newer amd cpu's

fading olive
#

plus 3rd gen ryzen drops next month with some pretty serious hardware

#

i would wait a bit to build honestly, wait 1-3 months, there's a lot of new stuff flooding the market, i would wait for the reviews on the new stuff then make your decisions

rich crystal
#

its gonna be a slow build, 1 piece at a time haha

fading olive
#

i would keep watching the pricing on graphics cards, nvidia is coming out with their 2060,2070,and 2080 SUPER cards, so they might make other cards cheaper

rich crystal
#

only thing is im not wanting to go more then $2 k

restive walrus
#

@little osprey where did you purchase your 8pin gpu cable?

rough hornet
#

@gray trench @sturdy narwhal you were saying

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Lol

sturdy narwhal
#

Ooh very cool Titan

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How much was that monitor?

rough hornet
#

150ish I thing

grand ridge
#

Would it be worth it just for the the case and the fact it’s possibly able to be upgraded

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@prisma trail

prisma trail
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that's most likely an old like X58 platform

#

but that's a really nice case inside actually

grand ridge
#

I know

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I’ve seen randomgamingHD’s video on one of these and he actually got some good gameplays out of slightly older games

prisma trail
#

actually

#

i think that may be running on a LGA775 platform

muted nimbus
#

hmm

grand ridge
#

He wants $115

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And he lives somewhat near me

prisma trail
#

that's a great price for the case alone

#

people want hundreds just for that

grand ridge
#

I know

#

Plus if it’s graphics card is SLI I could drop a higher end GPU in there and still be good

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Like a 1060

prisma trail
#

yeah if that is what i think it is

#

then it probably has something like an i7-965

wanton patio
#

Not a huge fan of that case tbh

prisma trail
#

yeah it's an acquired taste

wanton patio
#

I dont like cases that have the curves like that. I like the sharp and flat edges. Probably cause I like having a computer flush against the wall

prisma trail
#

yeah

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but if nothing else, that PC for $115 is a steal

wanton patio
#

Yeah

prisma trail
#

because he could easily turn around and sell it for a couple hundred more

grand ridge
#

I’d most likely keep it as it is a rather large case

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@prisma trail

wanton patio
#

How much is this?

grand ridge
#

I’d swap my 1tb into it as the main HDD

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$115

wanton patio
#

Bruh

prisma trail
#

it's a collectors item

grand ridge
#

^

wanton patio
#

You get half the PC for free

grand ridge
#

Plus is a massive case therefore a lot more easily modified

prisma trail
#

you could actually mod it to fit some watercooling gear

wanton patio
#

I might get this just for handling streaming

grand ridge
#

Isn’t it already water cooled ?

prisma trail
#

that's an AIO

grand ridge
#

What sucks is it’s DDR3, if I could somehow get an adapter for it to take DDR4 I’d be good

prisma trail
#

naahh

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it's a 12 year old platform

grand ridge
#

Still worth upgrading for the case alone

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Imo

little osprey
#

@restive walrus it's a thermaltake kit. I didn't use the 8 pin power because my board has 2x8 pin and the kit only comes with 1.

grand ridge
#

There’s also an aurora R4 for sale in Florida but I’m not going to get it because of shipping

prisma trail
#

yeah if i had the money for it i'd 100% pick it up for the case alone tbh

#

and honestly, those parts would be good for something like a plex server

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or a minecraft server

wanton patio
#

Minecraft

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I've always wanted to host a server for me and a bunch of friends but one major problem

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you need friends

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Bruh

prisma trail
#

oh god

#

eggbot's going crazy again

wanton patio
#

Eggbot stop being a nerd

grand ridge
#

@prisma trail can you tell me what modern MOBO would fit in that kind of case without an adapter bracket

prisma trail
#

any standard ATX motherboard

grand ridge
#

Nice ok

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Woah

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It deleted my message

#

@prisma trail

#

Here’s a video of an older model of the same computer

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The one in the video is older than the one I found because the one I found as far as I know doesn’t have a floppy disc drive

grand ridge
#

What all I’m trying to sell to buy the PC

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@prisma trail

prisma trail
#

i feel that

nimble citrus
#

What app do you use?

#

I use Mercari.

prisma trail
#

kinda looks like GumTree?

nimble citrus
#

OfferUp?

#

I think it’s OfferUp.

#

I’ll redownload to confirm real quick.

prisma trail
#

i was thinking offerup was red

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but that's letgo

#

there are so many selling apps

nimble citrus
#

I like Mercari.

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It’s national.

#

Yeah.

#

OfferUp.

grand ridge
#

@prisma trail I may be getting $60 tomorrow towards the Alienware

prisma trail
#

:D

#

that's a good deal for a 1TB WD hard drive if it works

grand ridge
#

Fr

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So many people I’ve met in the past week live in Texas ;-;

low oyster
#

Its not really worth it. Its 11 years old and you dont know what kind of wear was put on it in that time

grand ridge
#

I’m not going to use the original components, I’m most likely going to take everything out of the case and sell it off piece by piece

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Except for the power supply depending on the wattage and what socket it uses

prisma trail
#

it miiiigggghhhhtttttt only have a 20-pin ATX power connector

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you'll have to check to be sure, but i'm about 80% sure

grand ridge
#

@prisma trail

prisma trail
#

what's up my guy

grand ridge
#

The guy says it’s an LGA 775 socket in the Alienware

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For the processor

prisma trail
#

yeah, i saw that in the product description you posted earlier

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Core 2 Quad Q9550 i believe

grand ridge
#

Yeah

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He said I could upgrade to a cheal Xeon and get a 45% power boost

#

Idk if that’s true or not tho

prisma trail
#

i'm sure it would support a xeon yeah

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i'll find the best one for the money for you in a bit

grand ridge
#

Alright

limpid merlin
#

@little osprey very nice color theme

little osprey
#

Thanks my dude

uneven glade
#

can someone find me a good prebuilt with 16gb ram and a good cpu?

coarse coral
#

budget?

weak widget
#

str8 from r/buildapcsales

uneven glade
#

@coarse coral 800

crimson kite
#

But yeah so i have a lot that i can game on

lime forge
#

nice setup

crimson kite
#

Thanks. Still not dont yet either

brittle trail
lime forge
#

@brittle trail very good build

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might wanna swap out the ssd for a m.2 ssd tho

brittle trail
#

In real life gaming instances an m.2 wont be any different

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i just got that cheap m.2 for for fast startu

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You sure it'll work though? Look at the bottom of the list what the websitehas to say about it.

lime forge
#

oh i didnt see that startup ssd you included

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my bad

brittle trail
#

youre good

#

So do you think i should buy all those parts?

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@hexed isle @prisma trail

lime forge
#

dont forget some thermal compound

brittle trail
#

?

#

what

#

oh thermal paste

lime forge
#

also youd only be populating 2/4 ram slots

#

could be good for upgrading later down the line

brittle trail
#

I plan on it

coarse coral
#

I'd be careful with that case, the front airflow is restrictive, they updated it with a mesh version for better thermals

brittle trail
#

I just wanna get a semi beast computer built before summer ends

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THeo this is the mesh version

coarse coral
#

Ah ok, didn't say so on my screen

brittle trail
#

You sure?

coarse coral
#

It says mesh optional and I can't tell on phone if it's the plastic or the mesh on front

brittle trail
#

Im on my computer and it looks like mesh to me

coarse coral
#

Kk

brittle trail
#

I hope its mesh xD

coarse coral
#

You're safe

lime forge
#

ah

#

it includes both

coarse coral
brittle trail
#

Nice

lime forge
#

so basically use transparent when you post in #build-pics and mesh when ur not lol

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pretty sure it draws air in from the bottom

coarse coral
#

@noble jewel works at thermaltake ask him

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If it's not mesh front it will suffer

lime forge
#

oof

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but the case looks so good AAAA

empty aurora
#

Hello everyone this is my first time to chat about PC build

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I have a thermaltake view 91 for 5 month and I am working on design of my won case. I just found 2 problem is that radiator is blocked by 2 reservoir and front cover are too small. So I design to change the front cover to make more room for radiator and fan together in front of the case is better.

supple karma
brittle trail
stone jetty
#

Okay so I had to have missed this somewhere. Why do people put figures in their builds now? Just looks and appeal?

chilly marsh
#

yeah.

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there's no other purpose

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it doesnt negate or help with air or anything, just to help the build look a bit better and it's the owner's own personal touch.

stone jetty
#

Hm.

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I mean I've seen some that looked... Well... For lack of a better word, kinda silly. I didn't think it helped with performance in any regards.

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Our company is considering ordering custom decals of our logo to affix to cases that we sell. Not permanent; removable ones.

chilly marsh
#

our opinions dont matter in terms of those things in a build

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like i said, just the owner's own touch you know

stone jetty
#

Right that's why I've kept my opinion on it mostly to myself. But curiosity and cats, you know.

supple karma
stone jetty
#

There's a lot of blank space in the front, I feel. If you're looking to modify its appeal.

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A lot of people like that, but also like the open face, visible fans look.

#

You could always put a design on it or something

supple karma
#

I know but i didnt found any case modder in las vegas

stone jetty
#

That's unfortunate. You may find some online though.

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Otherwise the case has a very clean look to it, and that's nice too.

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Custom cables make the internals look more tight and overall more pleasing.

supple karma
#

How many sockets will each case need?(idk bc i always use laptop)

stone jetty
#

What do you mean?

supple karma
#

Uhh i mean the wires

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Srr my english is bad i just move to usa like a month

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Ohh the plug

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Yea i mean how many plug do i need for the case or the whole setup?

versed tree
#

yuo just need what the power supply comes with

supple karma
versed tree
#

it has all the cords you need in the box

supple karma
#

srr but i've never seen that before xD

versed tree
#

it is the power supply for the computer

supple karma
#

Oh

#

Do i already hav that in this case?

versed tree
#

yes and it will come with the cord you need

supple karma
#

Yay

#

I thought i need to choose another setup to get the power supply too xD

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Bc i only hav 1200$rn

versed tree
#

no it is a prebuilt so it has everything you need

supple karma
#

Kk so how many plugs i need?

versed tree
#

just one and it will come with it

supple karma
#

Yay

lime forge
#

@craggy bluff i used to have the same keyboard and mouse and mousepad as u

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actually i still use the same mousepad

craggy bluff
#

@lime forge nice! yeah it was a combo deal thing for like $40. this is my first PC build, so i just needed somthing to get started. honestly... it doesn't seem that bad. I dont have anything to compare it to. but seems at least decent.

lime forge
#

yeah they were great when i used them

#

the wire on the mouse got annoying after a bit so i switched to a g900 because it was a black friday deal for $80 at best buy tho

#

just an fyi theyre great products but my keyboard started breaking like a year or two after the purchase

#

the s wouldnt work all the time

#

which isnt good for gaming

prisma trail
#

that just mean you can't retreat

lime forge
#

πŸ€”

#

or i cant jump in in uno 😭

#

but yea for $40 its an amazing deal

prisma trail
#

where's the downside

lime forge
#

mechanical red backlit keyboard, mouse, and hefty mousepad

#

wowww youre just a sore loser lol

prisma trail
#

:D

crimson kite
#

Thats why i use SteelSeries tbh

lime forge
#

@kindred talon correct me if im wrong but is that case designed after a destiny ghost

#

when my red dragon stuff stopped working i switched to a razer ornata chroma because i loved the way they do the backlighting and i switched to a g900 because its super fast wireless

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the rgb software doesnt work with my mouse tho

#

i gotta reinstall ghub every time or else it just wont change colors

#

doesnt bother me much since my hand covers the rgb part anyways

little osprey
#

It does look like that

craggy bluff
#

yeah, ive only been using them since march. so far so good. I have kinda had my eye on the hyper x alloy FPS keyboard. but thinking ill just wait till this one starts failing.

little osprey
#

D1 or D2?

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Cause I like D1 better I’m going to guardian con this year

lime forge
#

ive only ever played destiny 2

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because it was free for a bit

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and i figured why not

#

but then i got lost in the game and i had no clue what was happening

#

i should probably uninstall it

#

80gb

limpid merlin
#

nice infinity mirror @winter hull

winter hull
#

thanks @limpid merlin

#

just got it today

#

custom cooled and all

restive walrus
#

ROG RTX 2080 is 770usd but i saw a EVGA GTX 1080 for almost the same. idk which one to get

quiet roost
#

2080 lel

robust locust
#

the rtx 2080 is comparabel to the 1080 ti

restive walrus
#

So either way both is good

#

Is my parts good enough? Gonna be my first time

quiet roost
#

i was going to make a joke about you saying its your first time then remembered I am not on my furry server

robust locust
#

yeah both good i would perfer the 2080 tho

restive walrus
#

Lmao what about it?

#

@quiet roost

quiet roost
#

What?

#

Oh my joke

#

Yeah no, I don;t want to be banned within 10 minutes of me being on the server

#

Now I will dm it to you

restive walrus
#

Lmao shoot it

quiet roost
#

I gave it to you

fallow knoll
#

Any opinions or suggestions to make it better for gaming, but keep around the same price range?

forest zealot
#

The 212 evo kind of sucks @fallow knoll

fallow knoll
#

What would you recommend to replace it?

prisma trail
#

the hyper 212 does not suck

#

it's perfectly suited to its price range

fallow knoll
#

So then would that pc be a decent gaming pc?

#

Would I be able to run generally most games that are coming out?

prisma trail
#

absolutely

#

since you are going with a K sku, are you planning to overclock?

fallow knoll
#

I haven't really thought about it, and don't really know how to overclock. Would there be a better option to do if I am not overclocking? I am kinda new to all this building a pc thing

#

But I know how to hook it all up, and make it work.

prisma trail
#

for sure

#

PCPartPicker's a little weird these days, what's your max budget?

fallow knoll
#

I mean, I don't really have a "max" budget, but I would prefer to stay below 2 grand.

prisma trail
#

aight

#

and you're just gaming?

fallow knoll
#

Just gaming, and hanging with friends. I don't stream, and I don't record.

prisma trail
#

for sure, just a moment

#

better CPU, SSD, bigger HDD, and better GPU

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and faster RAM

fallow knoll
#

Ah nice! It will be a good month or two before I am able to purchase it, but when I do, I will for sure post a picture in #build-pics

prisma trail
#

:D

fallow knoll
#

Thanks mate!

prisma trail
#

for sure man

#

@fallow knoll sorry, that one had the wrong PSU on it

#

and it's slightly cheaper

gray bronze
#

I'm hella due for an upgrade, just cant seem to find the money for it πŸ˜‚

fallow knoll
#

Lol normally I would never be able to afford anything new of the sort, just an opportunity came to me. Super happy too, because my PC is my life basically.

gray bronze
#

I agree my guy

prisma trail
#

i'm happy you can upgrade. that kind of rig can run any game out there no problem

gray bronze
#

So I've heard that NVIDIA Quadro's arent very practical for gaming, anyone know any knowledge behind that?

prisma trail
#

they're not built for it

#

they're compute cards

gray bronze
#

So even the K6000 isnt really made for it

prisma trail
#

watch that video, it explains the whole thing well

gray bronze
#

Oh ok cool thanks

#

Oh I see, so Quadro's are for like 3D Modeling and manufacturing stuff.

fallow knoll
#

Any decent headsets and microphones that I should add to my list? Preferably separate.

fallow knoll
#

Lol i used to have a Blue Snowball, but my dog knocked it off my desk, and without me knowing, I was wearing boots, and stepped on it, and its legs all broke, and the snowball itself split in half. Was a sad day lol

#

But you have been a huge help. Thanks man!

prisma trail
#

you bet

unborn jewel
#

Nice recommendations, matt.

#

ATH and Blue make high quality well-priced products.

restive walrus
#

Anybody have any website for cable mgt products. Such as combs and clamsp

#

clamps*

unborn jewel
chilly marsh
#

silverstone is a good company

#

uphere has some good cablecombs

#

very cheap for a full set for your setup

gloomy rock
#

@little osprey

little osprey
#

yes

#

im heer

gloomy rock
#

Bottle necking is where your parts restrict each other

little osprey
#

here*

#

oooooh

#

ok

gloomy rock
#

It's like putting a race car on a street with a 20mph speed limit

little osprey
#

lol

#

what components do u have?

gloomy rock
#

My tower has an i5 8400, gtx 1060, 16gb of 3000mhz ddr4 and a z370 a pro mother board

little osprey
#

ooooooh nice

#

i got some crappy gpu

gloomy rock
#

My laptop has a i5 8250 u and I use a converter ribbon like the docking station to put a 1050ti on it

little osprey
#

its an intel hd graphics 3000

#

lol

#

its trash

gloomy rock
#

It comes with the cpu

#

Integrated graphics

little osprey
#

yes

gloomy rock
#

Not the best

little osprey
#

its the worst

#

lol

gloomy rock
#

Btw when you take out your wireless card get something like this

little osprey
#

like what?

little osprey
#

nice thx a lot

restive walrus
#

Just get the wifi motherboard

gloomy rock
#

Laptops usually use wireless cards

restive walrus
#

Its fancy

#

Oh youre talking about laptops

little osprey
#

i have one lol

#

yes

gloomy rock
#

He's taking it out to put a gpu in

restive walrus
#

Nice

gloomy rock
#

He's doing mini pci to fill adapter

#

By filling his wireless card slot

#

I do that with my laptop

#

It allows you to put a gpu without a thunderbolt bolt port

restive walrus
#

Thats cool. I'm about to build my first tower too.

little osprey
#

ok

#

thx a lot for the help

gloomy rock
#

No problem, I love to help! If you have any more questions feel free to ask

fallow knoll
#

@prisma trail with that build you sent yesterday to me, would it startup fast as well?

prisma trail
#

Yes.

#

It'll boot in no more than 20 seconds

fallow knoll
#

Awesome.

gaunt zinc
restive walrus
#

Damn so lucky

magic abyss
#

^

versed tree
#

that is a realy nice rig

coarse coral
#

must be nice...

restive walrus
#

Whats the gpu lol

thorny inlet
#

some crap one

elfin flicker
#

Digging the red lights. Although it kinda feels like a darkroom

restive walrus
#

It looks very clean tho

thorny inlet
#

See i was supposed to get a GTX 1060 but had to drop to a 1050ti

#

it was bad

#

my CPU is too powerful for the GPU

restive walrus
#

Hm you got it for?

#

i7?

thorny inlet
#

yeah

#

i7 8700k

#

100% bottleneck in gaming

#

i need to upgrade to a 1080

restive walrus
#

Damn

#

Just go to ebay for 2nd hand 1089

#

1080

thorny inlet
#

I could

#

but i plan to rebuild in the next 3 months

#

Might ditch the red theme

#

these are the specs of the build

restive walrus
#

Yeah the gpu needs to go.

thorny inlet
#

mhm

restive walrus
#

I won a bidding for a 1080 Nvidia for 400usd

thorny inlet
#

i told my dad he could have my1050ti and i upgrade to a 1080 xD

restive walrus
#

What he said lmao

thorny inlet
#

He said "we can downgrade your CPU"

restive walrus
#

Looolllll

#

Your dad is smart

thorny inlet
#

my Motherboard only allows 8th and 9th gen CPUs tho

#

so i am smarter

restive walrus
#

For sure

thorny inlet
#

Its kills my Current PC in every aspect

restive walrus
#

It does. How many inch is the monitor?

thorny inlet
#

27 inch

#

its big enough

#

i dont want some massive 32 inch on my desk

restive walrus
#

I bought an 32. Smh i think its too big

#

Whats the total for that build

thorny inlet
#

idk

#

somewhere in the neighborhood of 2-3k

#

it seems to have removed my psu...

#

gotta go add one to it

little osprey
#

im building a pc and I was wondering if there was any bottlenecking with this build

#

Intel - Core i7-9700K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor
Corsair - H100i PRO 75 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler
Gigabyte - Z390 AORUS ULTRA ATX LGA1151 Motherboard
G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3000
Samsung - 860 Evo 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive
Gigabyte - GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB AORUS XTREME WATERFORCE Video Card
NZXT - G10 Video Card Cooler
Corsair - Crystal Series 680X RGB ATX Mid Tower
EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply
Seagate - Expansion 4 TB External Hard Drive

fossil hedge
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ok

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no thats just flexing on us peasants with laptops

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but, water cooling will not operate as good as a air cooler, for long standing loads

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your gpu is overpriced,

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you have way to much ram, for a gaming system. but if you going all decks loaded, it is technically fine.

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and I get it, you like rgb and good looks, but for nearly 50% less the performance...

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also, I would recommend waiting to buy a system until we see the performance of AMD's new line up of cpu's and gpu's

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and the cpu and gpu and not bottleneck. however the cpu will not handle the ddr4-3000 ram, as well as a amd chip.

sudden turret
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I don't see that as flexing at all.

chilly marsh
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same here

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though the 32gb of ram isnt necessarily TOO much for a gaming build, it's def more than enough if you wanna do more things at once, but i wonder how much the build costs @little osprey

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im busy watching youtube to search it up rn

sudden turret
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and to get on someone about pricing is eh. if those are the parts they want.. then good for them πŸ˜„

craggy bluff
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but why is your 2060 only $10 less than what a 2080 is...

chilly marsh
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no way

little osprey
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im getting the build for $1800

chilly marsh
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oh ok

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so his build is much cheaper than what @fossil hedge recommended

craggy bluff
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your paying for your 2060 then some 2080's...

chilly marsh
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though he could if he really wanted to sacrifice some things for the ti of 2080

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@craggy bluff what are you talking about

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the guy's paying for a 2080

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read his gpu

craggy bluff
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in this list he sent for his build. its a 2060.... for 779

chilly marsh
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it says 2080.

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right there in the pc part picker list

craggy bluff
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i think we are talking about two different people...
@thorny inlet en

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is who im talking about.

chilly marsh
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oh yeah

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totally different

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but since you talked right after THAT conversation and right after a pc list, it makes it like you were talking about that guy's listr

craggy bluff
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yeah, his link is for a 2060 for $779

chilly marsh
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bec y'know it was right after

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LMAO NO WAY

craggy bluff
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yeah, i see that now

little osprey
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wait air cooling is better than water?

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I’ve only heard the other way around lol

chilly marsh
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you're right

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water is better, the only difference is water has a tiny chance of leaking

little osprey
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I was also aiming for a quieter pc hence the amount of water cooling in my build

chilly marsh
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no matter what build, there's always a chance, whereas air there's nothing to leak

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thats reasonable

sudden turret
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water cooling is fine :p

chilly marsh
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yep

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as long as you dont use gunky weird ass liquid that screws up stuff over time

little osprey
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lol i based a lot of the parts on ratings πŸ˜‚

chilly marsh
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oh lol

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though you can research to see what you're paying for is the best bang for your buCK

sudden turret
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that waterforce aorus card is a beast.

chilly marsh
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yeah

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im planning to get an msi rtx 2060 in a year or two

little osprey
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i was considering getting the 11gb one but i feel like that would make me have to get a better cpu so keep up with that

sudden turret
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but there ain't nothing wrong with that build list ryy.

chilly marsh
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you're fine ryy

sudden turret
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but im confused on that kraken card cooler

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you dont need it

little osprey
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extra cool lol

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i couldnt even find a listing on it so im prob not even gonna get it

sudden turret
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thats not how it works.

chilly marsh
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nope

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not at all buddy

sudden turret
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that is just a bracket

chilly marsh
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you think about performance first, then looks

sudden turret
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say you take the stock cooler off a 1080, that bracket goes on the gpu.

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then you take an AIO. say the corsairs H55, or any with the round pump style base.

little osprey
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ohh

sudden turret
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attach it to the bracket.

chilly marsh
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how much are you paying for your 2080

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with that bracket thing

sudden turret
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then bam!, liquid cooed gpu

little osprey
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750

chilly marsh
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oh ok

sudden turret
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sec I actually have a setup with that kraken.

chilly marsh
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though ryzen destroying intel's higher cpus with the 3rd gen

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rip

little osprey
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isnt there a rumor that intel is gonna chip 15% off because of that

sudden turret
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That's a evga 1060 lolol

chilly marsh
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it will yes ryy

little osprey
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even cheaper build lmao

chilly marsh
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the ryzen 7 3800x beat i9 in multi threaded w0rk

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a 1060?

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00f

sudden turret
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yeah

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I had the spare parts, so why not.

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it is the wifes rig.

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πŸ˜„

fossil hedge
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water cooling, for short term test runs better,

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but for long term it fails.

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air cooling, is more reliable across the board.

sudden turret
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AIO sure.

chilly marsh
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yeah

fossil hedge
chilly marsh
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thats, basically what i meant earlier.

sudden turret
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short life span of 4 years.

fossil hedge
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yeah they clog up after a bit

chilly marsh
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if it's really well built and good quality

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linus just uses plain ol water so it wont

sudden turret
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but I've got one that is about 6 or so years old, runs fine.

chilly marsh
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depends on your liquid stuff though

fossil hedge
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AIO

chilly marsh
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bit harder to clean when draining, but cooling

fossil hedge
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they don't tend to work that well

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it comes down to short lifspans,

chilly marsh
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just depends on the person and what they're gonna use it for and how long

sudden turret
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yep.

fossil hedge
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they work well in certain loads.

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so yeah, it really depends on the use case

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I am into coding, and making 3d models, so I might run my system for about 12 hours straight,

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which is different then somebody gaming for 2 hours.

chilly marsh
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ofc

sudden turret
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lol

chilly marsh
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though we already established it

sudden turret
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who games for 2 hours.

chilly marsh
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end of discussion ig

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ikr

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normie.

sudden turret
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rookie numbers.

chilly marsh
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beta male