building-and-recc-chat

[mossy venture]

Wsp?

[lone flame]

Idk what they are called exactly

But does it come with I think sleeved cables?

I think that’s the name for them

[mossy venture]

Oh I'm not sure

Link it rq?

[lone flame]

Cause I won’t be using extensions and the stock corsair ones are horrible

Uh I’m on phone one sec

[mossy venture]

Wdym corsair has great cables

[lone flame]

I did not care for them

[mossy venture]

At least on their good models like the rmx

[lone flame]

Found them hard to manage

[mossy venture]

Hm

[lone flame]

But I’m just super bad with managing cables so again could be me

[mossy venture]

Felix knows abt cables a lot better than I do

You'd probably just want cable extentions atp though

[lone flame]

It’s possible to get sleeved cables that go directly into the PSU right

[mossy venture]

I think so

I've never looked into it much

[lone flame]

https://a.co/d/aJf0M71

See if that works

[mossy venture]

Id check w felix about sleeved cables

I dont know enough to know what to recc

[potent portal]

They do appear to be sleeved

Mostly

[broken barn]

chat where can i buy the Sapphire Pulse Rx 9070 XT online, i wanna get it quick, amazons my thought rn

[potent portal]

Your guess is as good as mine

It doesn't launch until tomorrow at 6 AM Pacific time

I will say that Amazon is a bot paradise, they don't do anything to stop scalpers

If you're near a microcenter that would be ideal I think. Best Buy in person maybe.

If you try to buy online you'll be fighting bots that can checkout before you've even loaded the product page

[broken barn]

i thought i was 9am

also there’s like no micro centers near me, nearest is 22 miles away and they’re not even open tmr

maybe best buy

actually

maybe newegg

[broken barn]

actually a better question is how can i buy it as if i was a scalper

[potent portal]

Many of them write their own codes and have had years to optimize them

They have the timing down to the millisecond, plus or minus a few for network fluctuations

[mossy venture]

@frank frost

[tawny violet]

@potent portal @mossy venture how bad a deal would a 6800 XT be new for 7900XT pricing?

Like legitimately new in box with full warranty

Buuuut it costs as much as a 7900 XT

[mossy venture]

hell nah

[broken barn]

@mossy venture what sites should i target to get those models?

[tawny violet]

It's an ASRock one too lol

Like it's somehow still stuck in inventory and nobody is buying them cuz they're not getting discounted

This is unironic sadly

Now if they dropped it to ~7800 XT pricing

Which would be a 30% discount

U bet it'd go fast

[broken barn]

giant ahh gpus wtf

30000+ feet

@cyan ravine any idea what sites to look on for when buying the 9070 XT tmr?

[severe matrix]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CBQVP6SS/?coliid=I28QAD1872JPOG&colid=1R6496T3SV6W&ref_=list_c_wl_lv_ov_lig_dp_it&th=1

this is a good 850W psu right? good for 5700x3d + 9070xt?

my main question is how good is Warranty Support? is XPG a good brand?

[mossy venture]

yes and yes

[tawny violet]

That's like

One of the best power supplies I know of

[severe matrix]

got it tysm guys

[tall shard]

Is this bad

?

[dusky hearth]

very

[tall shard]

to the return it goes

[dusky hearth]

where did you buy it from

[tall shard]

amazon

ima get a new one

[dusky hearth]

it arrived like this? did you buy open box or something

[tall shard]

Came like this

Box wasn’t ripped open

[dusky hearth]

how did you rib it that much

rip

[tall shard]

Was hard to open

[broken barn]

ain’t no way

LOL

[tall shard]

I’m returning this mofo

Gotta go to a ups drop off center

[analog hearth]

That’s wild

[broken barn]

@mossy venture yo, what sites should i be looking on to buy the 9070 xt tomorrow? i dont know any reliable sites

i know newegg is one, amazon is one. what else tho?

[severe matrix]

Am I right in that it's worthless to buy a super high refresh rate monitor if you don't have high fps?

Like playing 144fps on a 144hz monitor is the same as 144fps on a 540hz monitor?

[mossy venture]

B&h adorama best buy

[broken barn]

yes

[mossy venture]

Not 100% the same, but yes mainly

[broken barn]

although if you were to upgrade in the future, then you’d put those hz to use

[mossy venture]

Oled 240hz will always look better than 540hz IPS too

[broken barn]

what about qoled

😎

[mossy venture]

Oled qd oled and woled are all close enough to be grouped into that statement

[tall shard]

this cant be fixed right

[broken barn]

adorama only got built pcs, but would amazon and newegg be good places to camp for the 9070 xt?

[broken barn]

probably

you need to be very careful

about bending them back

it’s gon take a lot of patience

pretty sure you just needa use a credit card and a mechanical pencil

[mossy venture]

Adorama does not only sell pre builts

Literally any site is fine

Respectfully please don't ping me 4 times asking the same questions you've already asked multiple other people

[severe matrix]

got it ty guys

[crimson zinc]

Don’t bother

[weary galleon]

I mean you can try

[crimson zinc]

But if you mess up, you may just be OOL

[weary galleon]

I mean it's not going to be any better if you don't try lmao

[crimson zinc]

He said he was shipping it back so

[weary galleon]

Highly doubt it's worth it to try and sell it with bent pins

Oh wait did that happen in shipping

[crimson zinc]

Ye

[weary galleon]

Ah

Yeah send her back; don't try to fix it yourself

[rotund perch]

Would some be willing to help me build a pc for 1k that is upgradeable

just need a parts list im not very tech savy

[mossy venture]

Do you have a microcenter nearby?

[rotund perch]

idk i live near OKC Metro

[mossy venture]

Cpu and mobo are $330 together on newegg, a better mobo isn't a bad idea for upgradability but in $1000 you either cut corners somewhere or you get an underwhelming gpu for the budget

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XFGcyW

Cpu also has a free 1tb ssd

Let me find a gpu link

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/gCvD4D/powercolor-fighter-oc-radeon-rx-7800-xt-16-gb-video-card-rx7800xt-16g-foc
Over budget

A770 8gb, nothing crazy but decent
https://www.ebay.com/itm/126976335903?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=I8ORr0BxSt6&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=r8em-zv_qyc&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

Gpu market is very dry atm

9070xt comes out at $600 tmrw, but thats well over budget

Also a pretty big step up over the 7800xt at $500

Otherwise id look at the used market for a 2080 ti, 6700xt, 6800, 6800xt, 6900xt, 6950xt, or 3080 12gb/3080 ti

Some other decent ones but those are the main ones id bother looking for

[severe hull]

Did anyone go for the new gpu today ?

[mossy venture]

The 5070?

Its a hard pass from everything we've seen

Worse than a 4070 super and is over $600 everywhere

[severe hull]

Will the and be worth it tomorrow

If I can get my hands on it

Amd*

[mossy venture]

Its looking to be a tiny bit below the xtx

At $600 it's a great card

[severe hull]

I have two 7900xt lol the Best Buy order came in today but I am going to return that one . The new egg 7900xt bundles arrives on the 7th. If I can get the 9070xt I’ll give the new egg bundle back

[frank frost]

Thanks sorry just saw this ping lol

[tall shard]

What does ool mean

[weary galleon]

Out of luck

[shrewd gale]

Buying the Gigabyte AORUS ELITE Radeon RX 9070 XT 16 GB Video Card

[potent portal]

Good luck

[broken barn]

gigabyte is poo poo

get the Sapphire Pulse

[zenith cargo]

I wonder if people will line up at micro center tmrw, high wind, rain, and cold temp

[broken barn]

why don’t they just buy it online

or both works, but people don’t wanna wait for it to be delivered

im prob guessing

[zenith cargo]

pretty sure they’ll have a higher chance in store than online

idk

and you don’t gotta wait for shipping

[broken barn]

yeah

i don’t even got the option to go irl

i gotta rely online

[zenith cargo]

damn

[broken barn]

you know wha sites i should camp?

maybe amazon

or newegg

[zenith cargo]

No clue bro

i’m the wrong person to ask

[broken barn]

@mossy venture which is better? the 7900 XTX or the new one coming out?

[shrewd gale]

Woohoo, got certified has a good choice.

[broken barn]

what’s got certified

[shrewd gale]

My choice of the graphic card

Got to nitro + to nitro to huh that

[broken barn]

mind linking it, bc im scared im not gonna get the one im eyeballing

im eyeballing the sapphire pulse

[shrewd gale]

Me staying awake (even if I work at 1am)

[broken barn]

i dont think it comes as soon as it turns 12:00am

[shrewd gale]

Suppost to be a 8am

But I will stay in touch

[broken barn]

whats ur time

im est

[lone flame]

I honestly kind of meant like this

[shrewd gale]

Same

[mossy venture]

Xtx by a tiny bit. It's also not in stock for a reasonable price anywhere and when it was was $820+

[broken barn]

cuz like that might be my backup if i am not quick enough to get a sapphire pulse or any model of the 9070 xt

[mossy venture]

Its not in stock. Anywhere.

The cheapest is currently $1180

[broken barn]

damn

[mossy venture]

I would not pay more than $725 as long as 9000 series launch goes properly

[shrewd gale]

I legit cancel my order yesterday.

For the 9070, so risky bet

[broken barn]

also have u heard they updated the spreadsheets

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18eQRucHX41A-O4OsoV96Qw2gFw1Qs2N7f6qQQs3kXx4/edit?gid=0#gid=0

im still wondering the eastern time launch of the sapphire pulse

ima cop ts so fast

oh shi its 8am

[thorn egret]

I'm sorry if I've asked this before. I have slight dementia and sometimes my memory isn't what is used to be. My computer has, occasionally caused one of my two monitors (usually the one playing video) to go all white, or grey or even black for a few seconds, then everything is back to normal. Even less frequently, it shuts itself off. I've looked at my wattage through my backup power unit and it seems fine, but when the computer shuts off, it happens, obviously, so quickly I don't have time to see if it's high or not. I have a AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 8 core processor 8/16. My motherboard is a Micro-Star International B650 Gaming Plus WIFI (MS-7E26, I have 32 GB RAM, two 1.8 TB SSDs and one 3.6 TB external SSD. My Graphics card is Radeon RX 7900 XT (20.0 GB). My power supply is a MSI MPG A750GF Gaming Power Supply Full Modular 80 Plus Gold Certified 750W. Could the power supply be too weak to run this system? Do I need to upgrade to a 1,000 W power supply? Or, my symptoms have nothing to do with the power supply and some component on the motherboard or graphics card is going bad?

[stoic island]

Best way to tell is to test it and see what happens, either download OCCT and run the power test or use Furmark & Prime95 to get your system to draw as much as it possibly could, and see if the symptoms show up under the condition of pulling as much power as possible. If not, it's possible that it's a driver or software issue of some kind, and you can either run through windows troubleshooting with dism and sfc, and/or go through using DDU and then using older known good drivers and see if the problem persists.

[thorn egret]

Um, I have no idea beyond download OCCT what you said. I'm sorry, I get confused easily. Where would I find OCCT?

google occt and it should pop up?

ah, googled it. 😄

and with my limited knowledge it would be save for me to run this?

[potent portal]

Individually sleeved is the term you're looking for then

[lone flame]

ah gotcha

do PSUs come with cables like that

[potent portal]

Some do

[lone flame]

any 850w-1000w units you could recommend that do?

[potent portal]

Corsair has a kit of replacement cables you can get

Better then extensions

[lone flame]

i am trying to get away from corsair 🫠

[feral nymph]

you can always go with cablemod as well (http://www.cablemod.com)

[potent portal]

True, or moddiy

[stoic island]

Yes, OCCT is just the equivalent of the worst case scenario while running your PC, it wouldn't add any risk relative to just running demanding applications on their own. It helps you find problems by helping you simulate worst case scenarios.

[lone flame]

@cyan ravine think u could help me out with this

looking for a psu that comes with sleeved cables like this

[cyan ravine]

Lian li edge gold

[lone flame]

oh wow that looks really cool

has a fan hub too? interesting

would that require me to use their rgb/fan software tho

[cyan ravine]

Need 1000W+ for that

[lone flame]

thats what id get lol

for 150usd thats not bad at all for me

plus my birthday is coming up if i get any money id use it for a new psu

put it towards ig

[azure tartan]

Any recommendations for hardware diagnosis and repair across NA?
There's no technicians in california so i gotta get this pc workin asap

[plucky timber]

describe your issue

[lone flame]

ty, ill look into it and some reviews

[cyan ravine]

He's tried

[azure tartan]

Unknown, problems occured over the course of 5 years

[plucky timber]

ah I see

didn't see that mb

[cyan ravine]

I'm guessing it's just that complex at this point

[plucky timber]

I don't think there are technicians specifically

[cyan ravine]

@azure tartan ask fal he might be able to help specifically if you're up for a repair service

[plucky timber]

oh

I see

endless frustration

yeah I think I see where you're coming from

[azure tartan]

Ima stop fwd'in. Ya get the point

[plucky timber]

an alternative is to build a new pc but that's very expensive

[azure tartan]

Ye, i don't want to spend $1k for gen 5 parts

[plucky timber]

well the thing is

We don't know how much the technicians may charge

if there are any

[azure tartan]

I would rather let my parts run as long as possible before "upgrading" for 10% preformance

[plucky timber]

I'd say

try a local pc repair shop

I don't think you need an electrical engineer to fix your pc

just someone who's willing to diagnose it

[cyan ravine]

Or fal

[plucky timber]

or fal

[cyan ravine]

Specifically fal

I am suggesting fal cos of location

[azure tartan]

Eh... kinda. Alot around don't know how to recover data.
I went through 5 shops before 1 person actually recovered data

[plucky timber]

ehh

here's the thing about data recovery

[mossy venture]

Have you checked disk health?

[plucky timber]

it depends on the situation

[cyan ravine]

@potent portal do you see this

[cyan ravine]

He has

[mossy venture]

And tried sfc/scannow as well as dism?

Oof

[cyan ravine]

But I did suggest reinstall

Dunno if that was done

[azure tartan]

I mean, if most ppl don't know data recovery, how'd they gonna know what hardware is havin issues?

[plucky timber]

they don't need to

crystaldiskinfo can generally check for SMART errors

[cyan ravine]

Having a second set of parts makes it dead easy to find the problem child

At least provided the problem isn't ridiculously convoluted

[plucky timber]

https://tenor.com/view/oogway-gif-27339300

[cyan ravine]

Fal is someone I can suggest

Like genuinely

[plucky timber]

oh

problem child not problem, child

I misread that

[cyan ravine]

I know we've been back and forth for ages here but it's different in the hands of someone who knows their trade

[plucky timber]

meme doesn't work

[cyan ravine]

If you don't trust that, I am not aware of anywhere except a micro center personally

They do check out PC's for what it's worth from.memory

[plucky timber]

there are specific things you can do if you know your way around linux but I'd recommend just getting a professional to do it

[cyan ravine]

Most pc repair places are local business

[native grove]

I got a PC upgrading question.
currently I have 16 GB ram (2 8GB sticks) 3200MHz,
A friend had an extra kit of 32GB (2 16GB sticks) 3000MHz
what would be thr pros and cons of switching and would it work to put all 4 sticks in my system in any configuration?

[cyan ravine]

The pros

48gb....in a miracle

The cons

Ruined windows

Games don't run

Windows needs a full reinstall

Games are stuttery...is the normal outcome

TL;DR don't mix kits

It goes wrong 98% of the time

[jagged ember]

Yeah just use the 32gb only

Don't mix

[native grove]

Thanks! wasnt sure how much the speeds would make a difference but looks like more capasity is better

[cyan ravine]

If you want more capacity just use the 32 and sell the 16

If you need even more, sell both and get a 64 kit

Never mix unless you know they're effectively exactly the same underneath (No, this doesn't mean "both vengeance" I mean electrically on the stick itself)

[severe matrix]

For the 9070xt launching tomorrow, is there a big difference at all between all the brands? powercolor, XFX, etc.
if not, should I just go for the cheapest one?

[lone flame]

Sapphire Pulse is likely your best option

But yeah whatever is cheapest unless you specifically want one card

Sapphire and XFX should have atleast 1-2 MSRP cards hopefully

[severe matrix]

got it ty

[lone flame]

we are talking more about it in #graphics-cards as well

[severe matrix]

also, ive heard some people recommend not to get the 9070xt gpus that use 12vhpwr connectors becuase it might lead to some issues?

o i see

3 cables better than 2

they said

for balanced load

[lone flame]

the ones with 12vhpwr connectors wil be above than msrp anyway

plus its a bad connector

avoid it if you can

[severe matrix]

gotchu

so Sapphire Pulse without 12vhpwr

[lone flame]

the only two with the 12vhpwr connectors are the sapphire nitro+ and i think asrock tachi

[severe matrix]

got it ty

[lone flame]

mostly all the aibs will have a msrp model

just depends on which one you'd want

imo sapphire, xfx, and powercolor are the top 3 radeon brands

[severe matrix]

i see

rn best buy only has xfx

[lone flame]

if you have questions id direct them to the guys in #graphics-cards rn they are smarter than me lol

[severe matrix]

hopefully they got other ones comin

gotchu lol

[cyan ravine]

Cheapest

[zenith cargo]

zamn

[cyan ravine]

Damn swift white isn't msrp

That's a shame

[tawny flume]

is this good https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-b650-aorus-elite-ax-atx-motherboards-amd-amd-b650-am5/p/2MG-000K-002D2

[broken barn]

isn’t it the same thing

[tight pawn]

The extra clock speed isn’t much of a difference

I thought it was 8 ‘

AN

[broken barn]

sold out

first minute

what the f

[tawny violet]

Hopefully it's just sites dying

[stoic island]

MSRP cards sold out first minute

rest should stick around a bit though

[tawny violet]

If only they can actually be ordered here too lol

[cyan ravine]

The websites were all going down

Msrp was sniped so fast

[severe hull]

3 minutes it smh

[stoic island]

If you're trying to get it to work with something that's sold out on the storefront that you added to cart, it won't be there, Newegg doesn't hold in cart

[severe hull]

My microcenter has a good stock

[stoic island]

Good luck

[shut rampart]

is 750 overprice for a 9070xt in white

[cyan ravine]

It's high

On the side of not really worth

But vs what's actually available it technically still wins

Which is the awful part

[shut rampart]

I mean theres a 600 one but I dont like the look

[severe hull]

Good stock

How is new egg on returns

I have a 7900xt bundled with a psu that should arrive tomorrow

[cyan ravine]

That 600 one is good

Damn

[shut rampart]

https://www.microcenter.com/product/691100/asrock-amd-radeon-rx-9070-xt-steel-legend-triple-fan-16gb-gddr6-pcie-50-graphics-card

eh

looking for pure white

[cyan ravine]

Only xfx swift for 600

If it's not there then that's the one

They're selling out everywhere man don't hesitate

[shut rampart]

on mc its going for 750, 150 upcharge

[cyan ravine]

Then that's your cheap white card

You won't get a different option for msrp

[zenith cargo]

bro my local micro center has at least 100 in stock

i’ve seen 25+ in stock on almost every card

[cyan ravine]

Some stores got a buttload

Grab one if you are gonna upgrade. Msrp won't last

[severe hull]

I’m going to try after work see if they still have stock

But I’m worried about my new egg order

Is new egg good with returns ?

[restive oasis]

should i get a msi or asus 5080

[weary galleon]

Pretty similar to Amazon I believe, 30 day returns on most items

[zenith cargo]

the entrance is on the other side 💀

(not my pic, found out online from my local mc)

[rare arch]

Good GPU for 1080p-1440p for the Ryzen 9 5900X?

I was planning on getting the 9070xt but I might have to wait longer... just looking for alternatives

[dusty cedar]

dont get your hopes up on anything new, ever. since companies just mass sell to scalpers and they wont sell to legitimate people or do anything about it. there seems to be a massive stock of 4060's available everywhere. guess no one wants one.

[rare arch]

Yeah for sure. I know its only the first day of release. I just know that if I didnt get one at release id probably have to wait a while for it to be feasible again

[zenith cargo]

and I think they’re going up in price too

[dusty cedar]

i dont see it ever being feasible again unless nvidia and amd get their 💩 together and quit releasing like 500 cards for the entire world

[rare arch]

Yeah its bad rn... but im on a 3060ti so looking for any good opportunity to upgrade... I

[dusty cedar]

i have a 3080. just stick with the 3060. aint no point trying to upgrade. but like i said, the 4060 is still massively in stock everywhere. best buy near me has like 5 of them that they cant get rid of and they're only like 300 bucks

[weary galleon]

"only" 300 bucks for a card that's about as good as the 3060, sometimes even worse due to less vram

[loud shuttle]

my microsoft store hasnt worked ever since i built this pc

tried many solutions nothings worked, anyone have any idea why this happens?

[sage thunder]

when you set up your pc you mustve forgot the “microsoft chip for specifically the microsoft store” silly you, common mistake. a short term fix until u get the chip is every time u open the microsoft store, run to a nursing home and get naked and then it’ll work

[plucky timber]

you might be able to get more specific help in #windows-ios

[plucky timber]

he also has a 3060ti so... it'd literally be a downgrade

honestly at this point used and refurbs are some of the only rationally priced options

now with even the 9070xt going up in price

there's also the b580 but 🤷‍♂️

intelphobia is real

[plucky timber]

budget? are you fine with refurbished/used gpus?

[rotund perch]

can i send you dm have a part list need to know if its a good buy

[cyan ravine]

Send it here

I keep dm's closed, we have a bunch of capable people here for advice

[rotund perch]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TggzHW

[cyan ravine]

This for gaming or anything else

@rotund perch

[rotund perch]

for gaming trying to keep it less than 1000

Ill use it for school sometimes

[cyan ravine]

Ok I'll tidy it up

[rotund perch]

i do need a wireless wifi connection is the big think

[dusky hearth]

(wifi is wireless)

[cyan ravine]

@rotund perch
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Nc66Kq

Best I can do

It barely scrapes in 1000 but you minmax the build within an inch of it's life getting much better performance out of the gpu as possible

If you could do 1200 I could make it really good, otherwise there's a couple options at about 900 or 700 with a 7600

The rest is bleh

There's really not much good going for about the 1000 mark rn

[plucky timber]

What about refurb 6950XT?

[cyan ravine]

If it's able to fit in the above for less sure

[plucky timber]

$489

Costs slightly less

https://www.newegg.com/msi-radeon-rx-6950-xt-rx-6950-xt-gaming-x-trio-16g/p/N82E16814137733T

It's not much but it could help round the build out

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PhyqwY

Swapped the ssd for a c910

Still $17 under budget

[cyan ravine]

helped a ton
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8MZzHW

@rotund perch ^

$10 more but BIG improvement

Absolutely massive improvement

[plucky timber]

oooo

Refurb 6950XT clutch

Though the stock is a bit sketchy

The asrock I was looking at yesterday is gone

But for now the msi is still here

[severe matrix]

anyone got any recommendations on safe, reliable power strips? (preferably one with alot of slots on it, 8+ or so)

[plucky timber]

8+?

There's a reason you don't see those around

[potent portal]

I know APC is a reputable brand for power stuff but beyond that it's hard to say

[plucky timber]

Now they're usually fine

IF

You're only plugging all low powered devices

[severe matrix]

o

[cyan ravine]

Honeywell is pretty famous

[plucky timber]

The good manufacturers usually account for that by just... Not making large strips

[cyan ravine]

Idk if they're still making strips

[potent portal]

It's easy to overload your standard 15A home outlet with that many ports

[severe matrix]

yeah im not that knowledge about power, i thought that power strips account for the amount of power needed, deciding how much it needs, based on the outlet its plugged in and stuff

[cyan ravine]

We generally don't talk much on this cos there's very tough standards on power if you buy off the shelf of a hardware

[plucky timber]

Well it won't account for people plugging two microwaves into one strip

[cyan ravine]

Generally speaking most stuff is fine

[severe matrix]

dont wanna burn my pc and house down lol

[cyan ravine]

Just don't buy off temu or aliexpress

[plucky timber]

Yeah

[cyan ravine]

Those things are actually risky

[plucky timber]

Buy from off the shelf

[potent portal]

Just for the love of all that is sacred don't buy one from Amazon

[severe matrix]

in person?

[cyan ravine]

Yeah go to a store imo

[plucky timber]

In person in stores

[severe matrix]

any recommended trustworthy stores in cali/us?

[plucky timber]

I bought all my strips in BigW

(Department store)

[potent portal]

SoCal? Microcenter

[cyan ravine]

2 australians giving you advice here

Uh

What fal said

[severe matrix]

dont got that lmao

[cyan ravine]

Lol

[severe matrix]

xd

bay area

Central Computers maybe

[potent portal]

Best buy isn't bad

[cyan ravine]

Just any normal hardware man

[severe matrix]

got my 9070xt from them

[cyan ravine]

Yeah best buy

[severe matrix]

o yeah best buy

jinx

you owe me a 5090

[cyan ravine]

Don't overthink it just buy from a brick and mortar

[severe matrix]

gotchu

ty guys

[plucky timber]

Brick and mortar are generally safe

[severe matrix]

So wait, a power strip that has a lot of slots on it is bad?

I should use two? using the two slots on the outlet?

[plucky timber]

Not necessarily

[potent portal]

Ooh the Santa Clara microcenter opens soon too ya know

[cyan ravine]

Going overboard can trip your breaker

[plucky timber]

It's just that most of the high capacities ones are made by sketchy companies

[severe matrix]

yeah i wish they did before 9070xt launch (opening late 2024 my ass)

[cyan ravine]

It just means don't run more than rated amp per circuit

[potent portal]

Ikr

[plucky timber]

It's fine if you only use low power devices

But the manufacturers don't engineer for niche situations

[potent portal]

Now they say Q1, and Q1 is almost over

[severe matrix]

im planning on doing 5700x3d + 9070xty

but yeah

true

[plucky timber]

Fine from a reputable brand*

[cyan ravine]

Solid

[severe matrix]

So, 2 power strips, in two slots of the outlet, better?

[plucky timber]

Yes

[severe matrix]

got it my man

[plucky timber]

Do not ever daisy chain

[severe matrix]

🫡

gotchu

[potent portal]

Better but still make sure you're under 15A max load

[plucky timber]

Although I'd still watch out

On loads

[cyan ravine]

This is so redundant on it's own

[severe matrix]

u know how to calculate that ? or na

[cyan ravine]

Do not daisy chain *at high amperage

[severe matrix]

based on whatever parts u use

im as knowing as a donkey in the 1700s groveling in the grass

[plucky timber]

True

[cyan ravine]

Daisy chaining itself isn't dangerous if you use a tiny wattage

[potent portal]

Yeah you can find the amps for each device on the power adapter, AC input side

[plucky timber]

Half of my devices are low powered

[severe matrix]

got it, so just add them all up, all the Amps that are listed on the cables?

under 15 Amps good?

[potent portal]

Yep and that'll be your worst case scenario, full load, which you want to keep under 15A

[severe matrix]

15A in total for the whole outlet? or just on one power strip?

[potent portal]

15A for both sockets on the outlet

[plucky timber]

Whole

[severe matrix]

gotchu my brethren

👍

[cyan ravine]

Yeah so if an adapter says 20A, that doesn't mean 20 is safe

All parts need to be 20A

House included

Lol

[plucky timber]

Meanwhile

[potent portal]

Yep, there's 20A circuits but the building needs to be wired and fused right

[plucky timber]

That's not even all of them

I have a second strip

And a usb c charger connected to my other outlet

[potent portal]

Those all look like 1-2A or less to me

[plucky timber]

Yeah that's the annoying part

[cyan ravine]

Inb4 one is 18A

[plucky timber]

All these low power devices are taking up all this power strip real estate

[potent portal]

2500W PSU moment

[cyan ravine]

95+ gold

[broken barn]

@cyan ravine yo build boy, after having all the pc parts, do i just get cpu thermal paste and im good for the build?

[cyan ravine]

Should have it with the aio

[broken barn]

oh the aio comes with it?

[cyan ravine]

Don't need to buy more

[cyan ravine]

TF7 is what it should be

Or tfx

[broken barn]

https://a.co/d/g75cxN6

this is the one

[plucky timber]

$89

What

[broken barn]

wha

is that bad

i had bacca tell me its good

[plucky timber]

Oh it's got a stupid LCD

That's why

[broken barn]

whats lcd

[cyan ravine]

I suggested it

[plucky timber]

LCD tax is real

Yeah makes sense

[cyan ravine]

Cos gt clones

[broken barn]

oh yeah

so it should come with cpu thermal paste?

[cyan ravine]

Mhm

[broken barn]

bet

i have everything purchased

[cyan ravine]

Ok you can relax now

Lol

All that's left is building and there's a million build tutorials out there

And manuals in the part boxes

[plucky timber]

Just don't click on the verge build guide

[broken barn]

what if i mess up the parts

[potent portal]

That's hard to do tbh

[broken barn]

oh really?

its not like very very fragile?

[plucky timber]

Yeah it takes a massive skill issue

[broken barn]

because i was extremely fragile while handling my cpu and gpu today

[plucky timber]

Unless you're incapable of following instructions

You should be fine

[cyan ravine]

I mean use care but you don't need to be worried as long as you're patient

[broken barn]

what if, i drop the cpu on croncrete about 4 feet, theoretically, would it break

[potent portal]

Nah you need a serious screw up to break things, like dropping the CPU onto the motherboard pins

[plucky timber]

That is a skill issue

[cyan ravine]

Croncrete

[broken barn]

im good then, i just maybe thought even my fingerprints or sweat/dust on my fingers would mess with the parts

[potent portal]

Nah

[cyan ravine]

Not unless you were sweating buckets mate

[plucky timber]

I mean as long as you're not pressing onto the pins

[broken barn]

bett

SO I GOT A GOATED PC

YAYY

[potent portal]

Technically yes but on a microscopic scale

[cyan ravine]

There's a reason this pic exists:

[plucky timber]

Ground yourself

Nobody does that anymore

[potent portal]

(Don't worry about grounding)

[plucky timber]

Except Qantas

And Virgin

[potent portal]

I got a few vids that are relevant, hold up

[broken barn]

ima eat the thermal paste

[broken barn]

what does ground yourself mean

[cyan ravine]

It's gross

[plucky timber]

Become one with the ground

Kiss the floor

No basically it means you ground yourself so static doesn't damage the parts

[potent portal]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhHtHMQygzE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1fxZ-VWs2U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXkgbmr3dRA

[cyan ravine]

Air pipe and underground urself

[plucky timber]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ground_(electricity)

[broken barn]

"ground yourself" wha, you mean sit on the floor and make it?

[plucky timber]

You literally attach yourself to the electrical ground

[broken barn]

why would the ground be electric

my carpet cannot conduct eletrcitity

[potent portal]

Traditionally you'd wear a wrist strap that's connected to something metal while the PC is plugged in

[potent portal]

Rub socks on carpet = static

[broken barn]

take off socks

boom

[dusky hearth]

do not daisy chain *unless you do proper load calculations and make sure the total load does not exceed the capacity of the strips and circuit

[potent portal]

See vid 3 I linked lol

[plucky timber]

Someone will read that and still cause a house fire

[broken barn]

yes ima take the second one as the tutorial and then also read my manuals, that is my plan

[dusky hearth]

i have 2 words for them

"HAH LOSER"

[plucky timber]

"Skill issue"

[broken barn]

also i thought yall said its not easy to mess up the parts

static is real easy to make

i can rub a balloon rn

[plucky timber]

It's not that common

[potent portal]

See vid 3

[broken barn]

ill go watch it rn

[potent portal]

You cannot kill it with static

[broken barn]

oh

so i dont needa watch it

LOL

[plucky timber]

The chance of static actually damaging anything these days is very low

[potent portal]

It's still super interesting lol

[plucky timber]

Unless you're actively trying to kill it

[broken barn]

so i dont needa worry

whats the point of even inventing the term static killing the parts

LOL

[dusky hearth]

if you stick your rod into the ground would you also be ground

[potent portal]

Even then, they took the static wand directly to the parts while it was on and they still worked

[broken barn]

my grand total is $1,816.55 for my entire pc build

yippee

profit

[plucky timber]

Meh

Market moment

[broken barn]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qHVDmC

the tax was like 200

which is CRAZY

i could have bought 64 gig ram with that tax

[plucky timber]

Oh

1.8k for a non XT

Oh ok

lol

[potent portal]

I'll take 48GB over 64GB any day

[dusky hearth]

i mean, there are some stuff sensitive to static, but also back then stuff were a little bit more likely to be killed by even a small power surge
nowadays you don't need a surge protector unless you get bigger than just power flickering/brownout power outages
though a whole home surge protector is always a good idea

[broken barn]

it was 650 for the non xt

better than nothing

[plucky timber]

💀

[broken barn]

what

thats good

LOL

[plucky timber]

Market moment

[broken barn]

650 is good

well it did tax

[cyan ravine]

Ok fine ur right

[broken barn]

like

[cyan ravine]

Smh

343 killshot

[dusky hearth]

where's my kill cam

insert video of halo infinite physics

[plucky timber]

I don't think we're getting the old market back

💀

I miss the 1.5K 7900XTX builds

[dusky hearth]

i've linked the context elsewhere

[plucky timber]

"Back in my day we used to be able to build a decked out 7900XTX pc for 1.5K

[potent portal]

https://tenor.com/view/back-in-the-olden-days-back-in-the-old-days-in-the-olden-days-in-the-old-days-the-olden-days-gif-27099548

[plucky timber]

Tfw a 9070 non XT build is 1.8K now

We truly live in a society

Oh that list had a monitor

Ok there is hope

1.6k maybe... If lucky

https://tenor.com/view/copium-meme-pepe-frog-gif-26117735

[dusky hearth]

anything would be better than that 1.3k 580 build

well, 1.1k since it includes monitor

[plucky timber]

I wonder if you can get a 9070XT at $750

If I were to build a pc rn

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WH849C

This is what I'd get probs

Copium

[drifting pebble]

Hello can someone help me out with a part list

[plucky timber]

Budget?
Use case? (What do you use the pc for?)

[drifting pebble]

1000/Gaming general use

1080p

I can link the monitor if that helps

https://www.amazon.com/Sceptre-DisplayPort-FreeSync-Speakers-C325B-185RD/dp/B082GTFJB5

[potent portal]

USD?

[drifting pebble]

Yes

[plucky timber]

The budget includes the monitor?

[drifting pebble]

I already have the monitor

[plucky timber]

Ok great

Are you ok buying your cpu off aliexpress?

[drifting pebble]

It depends

Seller

Type

Just need an upgrade from this dusty 4600G

Idk why the Psu cables are colored like ketchup and mustard but

Yeah

[plucky timber]

Hmm

Here's an idea

You could upgrade your current build

Do you have a parts list of your current specs?

[drifting pebble]

I can try to make one

[plucky timber]

Sure

[burnt stratus]

lol

old psu classic

its not an old psu w/o ketchup & mustard cables

[plucky timber]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yP849C

This is what I have rn but it's over budget

[drifting pebble]

Random prebuilt PC https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XwmFYd

Probably not accurate

But it’s just what I seen inside

[plucky timber]

Oh jesus christ

Any idea of what the motherboard is?

[drifting pebble]

Absolutely not

[plucky timber]

hmm

[drifting pebble]

I got it for birthday

I can probably find it

[plucky timber]

Yeah I doubt it'd be good tbh

Prebuilts like ripping people off

[drifting pebble]

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/shopping?q=tbn:ANd9GcQjuE9P9dDqOoQnaVhoqh5W8jo2KWxuSdrg409kEjaIR2c5wFH16jWPWbykg05aDf3MqBEP_2Lk06rWhvJhRTSuDC5Xz4gxgqDc34WduD_R

[plucky timber]

With the cheapest parts

Oh it's an oem

[drifting pebble]

Oem?

[plucky timber]

Yeah I wouldn't count on upgrading

[drifting pebble]

Came with a monitor

But

I might’ve cracked it

Get mad easily at games

[drifting pebble]

I need
A new pc

[drifting pebble]

Can’t be a dollar over 1000

😔

[plucky timber]

yeah that's a bit tricky hmm

Maybe a couple months ago but these prices

Are you ok with the pc not being upgradable?

[drifting pebble]

Does GHz matter

[plucky timber]

It doesn't directly translate to performance

[drifting pebble]

Maybe

Like the gpu cant be hogtsddd either ?

Upgraded

[plucky timber]

You can upgrade the gpu

It's just that you'll be losing out on upgrading on the cpu side

Plus you'll be on ddr4

[drifting pebble]

.

[plucky timber]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jTjNBq

Second draft

$2.75 over

Gonna shave it down

Oh I don't need that cooler

[vague oracle]

Have you tried soaking it in milk? It'll definitely fix the cracks

[plucky timber]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/v2BhYd

ehh

Not the worst list I've made

Considering the current market

[plucky timber]

@drifting pebble

[bronze pier]

if i currently have 2x8gb ddr5 ram 5200mhz and i will add 2x16gb ddr5 5200mhz is there gonna be a problem? Or will it work out?

Ps. Motherboard is msi b650 gaming wifi

[cyan ravine]

Mixing is like the worst thing you can do on ddr5

The spec wasn't made for 4 sticks, they changed that last minute

[bronze pier]

2x16 is much better?

[cyan ravine]

Ddr5 runs much much slower with 4 sticks, so I highly suggest just running 2x16

Yes

[bronze pier]

Thank you

[cyan ravine]

2x8 is also painful

Half rank spec

Just sell those

[bronze pier]

Any recommended brand ram for that motherboard?

[cyan ravine]

Cheapest 2x16gb, not corsair we usually suggest any kit that is "CL32" or lower

So for example patriot has a 6000 cl30 viper kit for 80$

[bronze pier]

I can’t even find lower than cl36 on amazon.

[cyan ravine]

Patriot viper 2x16 cl30 6000mhz

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/4cCCmG/patriot-viper-venom-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-6000-cl30-memory-pvv532g600c30k

^Here

Newegg is 80

Sometimes it's amazon, today it's newegg at the lowest

This the $80 amazon kit rn
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/wKYRsY/klevv-kd5agu880-56k300f-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-5600-cl30-memory-kd5agu880-56k300f

Both will work exactly the same pretty much

You can run the second one at 6000 and it'll work like the vipers

[bronze pier]

Check this out on @Newegg:Patriot Viper Venom 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000 (PC5 48000) Desktop Memory Model PVV532G600C36K https://www.newegg.ca/patriot-32gb-ddr5-6000/p/N82E16820225315?Item=N82E16820225315&tpk=1

Is this cl 30?

[cyan ravine]

Oh canada

I see

It's 36 but here
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/scFmP6/silicon-power-xpower-zenith-gaming-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-6000-cl30-memory-sp032gxlwu60afde
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/HNZXsY/teamgroup-t-force-vulcan-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-6000-cl30-memory-flbd532g6000hc30dc01
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/4cCCmG/patriot-viper-venom-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-6000-cl30-memory-pvv532g600c30k

Just pick from these 3

[bronze pier]

Thanks i actually found on amazon which is much cheaper with free delivery. Thank you for your help i appreciate it 🙏

[cyan ravine]

All good man

[bronze pier]

https://a.co/d/eUlf588

[cyan ravine]

They don't pay me to get you to buy newegg

It matters none to me lol

Amazon got a stellar cs

I use them myself

[bronze pier]

Well i got my prebuilt on newegg

[cyan ravine]

Top tip

Don't sell the ram that it came with

Leave it packed away

When you have an issue with that pc or if you do, pop it back in

Take the new ram out

Now it's normal again

I did say sell it, but not worth that for losing the warranty tbh

[bronze pier]

I will still check if mh wilds will play on 16gb if its fine then i ll leave it on 16.

[cyan ravine]

Alr

[bronze pier]

Just looking for solutions if it doesnt work out. Thanks tho i appreciate you taking your time giving me answers 🫡🫡🫡

[cyan ravine]

Np lol

[severe matrix]

yo chat, 5700x3d ($270 rn) or the 9600X ($229)?

is one better than the other by that much or no

also the 9600x comes with Monster Hunter Wilds so...

[undone dew]

are you looking for more balanced

or gaming first

[cyan ravine]

If you're definitely settled on Wilds then that 9600x is compelling

Just note that game is disgustingly unstable

[undone dew]

thankfully for me, its been nothing but stable. It did get a couple of updates recently that i can only guess helped stability issues

[cyan ravine]

That's the thing, no one knows what makes it unstable apart from frame gen

You can have any rig any spec and BOOM

Crash central

Lmao

At least the pics are funny

Game has a serious frame pacing and aliasing issue at it's core tho, it's been thoroughly picked apart for performance now

[undone dew]

oof i dont even use fak- i mean frame gen

[cyan ravine]

You shouldn't in wilds

Added latency

[undone dew]

bro this is wild (LOL), the only time ive seen this is at the character selection screen, character T-posed for about 5 seconds the texture on the character also was ps1 era for about 10 seconds then it hasnt happened since

[undone dew]

i've also heard that its really only for cards that can do great frames naturally. not really used for lower tier cards like the 4060 or 3060Ti

[cyan ravine]

Absolutely

You want a minimum framerate for framegen

And that alone ruins half the point of it

[undone dew]

you know, gotta be like Jensen and his 5070 = 4090 for 549 shpeell

[undone dew]

facts

[cyan ravine]

https://youtu.be/hyRMPB1djTY

First minute is gold lmao

[undone dew]

I loved GN's 35 minute video of just doggin on the 5070

[cyan ravine]

5070 lookin like a windows 98 screensaver

[cyan ravine]

Lmao the 9070 xt leaks mid video

Absolutely killed me

"We see the 7900xt right here. This GPU is important for reasons, check back tomorrow to know why"

LMAO

[undone dew]

both Steve's are right in the fact that the 9070 non xt should have been 499 or even 449. and the xt should have been at 549. That would have been no brainer moves.

[cyan ravine]

I agree they should've been 100 apart

Even 80 or 70 apart

50 is too close

[undone dew]

Amd -50 Amd lol

[cyan ravine]

The performance is there to mildly justify it but it's just not the right thing to do

It sends bad signals

Just look at the 9070 stock

1/3 as much

Yet msrp was easy to get compared to the xt

Hard in it's own right but easy

The 9070 is 12% slower for 9% less money

It makes sense at $540 honestly

But the mindshare ruins the idea

They should've had two cards more broadly apart

[undone dew]

ahhh gotta love the hivemind thats the shareholders

[cyan ravine]

The 9070 could've even been cut down more

[undone dew]

gotta give them club money for some reason

[cyan ravine]

Fr

I got one anyway so I'm satisfied

I did that almost purely to support them being price aggressive again

Didn't need a card lol

Gonna sell the 6900xt to a good home and it'll serve as a trophy

There was a great perspective someone had yesterday

That the 9070XT is like Nvidia was years ago with the 1080ti

$600 for high end performance really broadens the perspectives a bit

[undone dew]

thats what i did with the 5700xt and 6900xt. granted i didnt like the thermals of my 5700xt which is really why i swapped to the 6900xt. now the 4090 is just a beast of a card in all honesty. havent broken 65C yet in any game

[cyan ravine]

Ye

I mean I have nothing wrong with the 6900xt

But I don't have a pc for it lol

[undone dew]

fr though, it makes me a bit hopeful for a rug pull like AMD did to intel with their 7800x3d

[cyan ravine]

Their success over the next 2 years will tell tale to it

We won't know yet

One thing is for sure they will probably give us another generation at this rate

They sold REALLY well this launch

[undone dew]

im building a new pc for me and a buddy. For my buddy i originally ordered a new PSU cause i thought that was dead cause it kept tripping out then one day it stopped turning on. So i ordered him a new psu mobo ram and cpu. Now im thinking it was just a mobo issue. thats the hope anyway

[undone dew]

im curious to know the skus of what was supplied to retailers and such. obviously they all sold out pretty much instaneously

[cyan ravine]

How about that

https://www.theverge.com/news/625502/amd-rx-9070-xt-launch-pricing-msrp-possible-bait-switch

Turns out the msrp is here to stick

[undone dew]

lets hope so, watch in the next 6 months or so that the prices from AIB's drop to normal prices again getting a sapphire nitro+ for roughly 700. would be sick

when i picked up the 6900xt i got it for 800

[cyan ravine]

Note his words

"MSRP will be encouraged"

So they will incentivise it but no guarantee

[cyan ravine]

They were like 950 here 😂

Cost as much as my xtx, hell nah

LOL

[undone dew]

sheeeeeesh i guess i got a good discount on mine lol

[cyan ravine]

I was considering a nitro but that was a yikes

Pulse is much nicer imo

[undone dew]

I think mine is the nitro

shooot i dont even remember now

[cyan ravine]

I was aiming for a reaper tho but bots got all those

Hell the swift looks like the best msrp one

[undone dew]

unsurprising

[cyan ravine]

They were nowhere

[cyan ravine]

Paid a little more for pulse, I'm fine with that

[undone dew]

its crazy to me that the 1080Ti is still going for 750

[cyan ravine]

Consider it a donation to good prices 😂

[undone dew]

true true

[cyan ravine]

I really hope amd is profiting

More of this

We need more of this

Anyway

[undone dew]

for real bro. reign Nvidia back in a little

[formal girder]

This year of gpus has disappointed me so I decided to focus on bringing the rgb back to my build so I coped 6 agrb TR C12C s and one that wasn’t argb

[cyan ravine]

C12c are good

[formal girder]

I hadn’t been able to clean my arctics for a few years now and want color and it was significantly cheaper than p12 argb

[cyan ravine]

P12 pst are decent but kinda meh now

You'd spent what

20 dollars

That's nothing

[undone dew]

i do like me some arctic fans though. However, im surprised at TR's Frozen prism. heck of a price to performance

[cyan ravine]

Go enjoy the thermalright quality

[formal girder]

Plus signal rgb yea $15 for 3 pack and one $4 fan

[cyan ravine]

You'll be surprised how nice TR makes things for cheap

[cyan ravine]

The quality on them tho

Like man

How

[formal girder]

I want their upcoming aios with curved screens similar to tryx

[undone dew]

you can cop their frozen prism right now for 60 bucks US

[cyan ravine]

They'll likely get to that, they only just brought lcd aios to usa iirc

[formal girder]

Ahh

[formal girder]

Got the lf2

[cyan ravine]

They've been running them for a while but* usa adoption is slow

Man I really can't adjust to this new phone keyboard

[formal girder]

But partner has prism in itx build I made them

Same

I went from a cheap tcl android to iPhone 13

[undone dew]

oof

went to the dark side

[formal girder]

Gonna be honest less than $300 and brand new

I got a free series 6 watch which I enjoy more each day

[cyan ravine]

I wish it was like that here

Here iphone 13s are 800+

Not even pro or max

[formal girder]

I want pro max for lidar but they didn’t have any

[cyan ravine]

I bought my brother a 16e cos the launch price was better than 15 and 14 used prices

[formal girder]

Understandable

[cyan ravine]

Aussie market is screwed up rn

[formal girder]

I would’ve for myself as well

[cyan ravine]

I considered it too, but my galaxy watch don't work in iphone properly

So I went S25

[formal girder]

Ah

I like the sleek design of galaxy watches honestly

[cyan ravine]

I wanted to pick anything other than the samsung but thw market cornered me into it

[cyan ravine]

Me too, and I paid a lot at the time lol

Want to continue to use it

[formal girder]

But I’m gonna rest now and await for my fans later

It’s like 3am here

[cyan ravine]

Fair enough

Oh god me too

😂

Got work in 9 hours

[undone dew]

2:04am for me

[undone dew]

have fun with that

[lyric sandal]

Looking for some new build advice. Wanting to replace a laptop and a desktop with two desktops, and was planning for a full AMD build for both.

My Laptop is an XMG brand based on the Clevo system, and has an i7-6700k, 64GB DDR4, GTX980 8GB (180W), 2x M.2 NVME, 2x SATA3, WiFi 5/BT4, TB3 and a 75Hz 1080p G-Sync panel.
I don't play high end games, I think I have one game with a minimum spec of a 1000 series NVIDIA and that's it. However I do use Photo/Video/Audio editing software, and do wish to get a colour accurate monitor for doing that. I was looking to replace this with a 9800X3D and maybe the new 9070XT, but I'm open to other ideas.

The desktop is mostly used by my Dad for general daily tasks, it's much older with an i7-860, a Gigabyte P55A-UD6 motherboard, 16GB of DDR3 & a GTX470 with 1280MB VRAM. It wouldn't really be used for gaming, but it would do some photo/video editing. I feel like the 9800X3D is overkill for this but would probably prefer to stick with AM5 since it's the current gen. Likewise could probably get a lower model of GPU than the new 9070XT and be fine.

Budget wise, not sure exactly, but certainly would like to spend less than £4000 combined, ideally including one new monitor (monitor on the desktop is an older Samsung 120Hz (Dual Link DVI) or 60Hz on HDMI with 3D on HDMI with active glasses). I already have two 2TB Samsung 990 Pro's AND two 4TB Crucial P3 Plus NVME drives (one for each new PC) but some additional SATA slots would also be required.

[burnt stratus]

why are we downvoting this

[rain carbon]

Not sure tbh

im curious if a 7900x/9900x would be worth the investment

also idk if amd would be the better choice for workstation stuff gpu wise

i think nvidia gpus are faster in photoshop if i recall

same for video with stuff like primiere pro and resolve, and i doubt audio is really impacted since its light

although not sure if price to perf rn is in amd's favour or nvidia for that?

[dusky hearth]

resolve works about the same? with amd
premiere likes nv more though afaik

[rain carbon]

is it? resolve is superior anyway imo since it doesnt cost anything + has more user applicable tools you can download

premiere just really aint worth the cost unless that money is pocket change to you

its 35/month if i remember right

[dusky hearth]

i would even recommend buying it because it adds hw encoding and multi gpu support
though it has everything you need in the free version

and pretty much everything you would want in the paid version

[rain carbon]

isnt the paid version a one time as well?

[dusky hearth]

yes

[rain carbon]

unlike adobes goofy ass subscription lmao

[dusky hearth]

it's like 300usd

one time

yeah 300usd

[rain carbon]

im perfectly fine with people not financing adobe bs

idk what alternatives people use for photoshop tho other than uh, cough, not paying for it

[dusky hearth]

there's a few options, the most photoshop-like free clone was photopea

though it's missing a bunch of features

for drawing, there's kirta

[rain carbon]

i use krita

[dusky hearth]

oh yeah can't forget about paint dot net

[rain carbon]

its pretty good

just huge learning curve

actually, massive learning curve

almost blender levels ngl

[dusky hearth]

honestly photoshop is still really one of the only good fully featured photo editors, but i prefer davinci over premiere pro

especially considering that premiere pro used to be the cheap clone of a different video editor

good old avid media composer

[rain carbon]

pretty much how i feel

[dusky hearth]

like 10 years older than premiere pro

[rain carbon]

its been the norm too long to not have superior support

basically nvidia lol

[weary galleon]

Just hopping in to say that Resolve is awesome

[wide drum]

imagine if at your job you were the primary person responsible for all adobe products and resonsible for fixing all the problems that come with their products because their support is non-existent

definitely not what i do for a living....

[marsh kiln]

That's when you VPN buy and get it for a cheaper price (idk if still works but used to)