building-and-recc-chat

[sage thunder]

so is it wifi compatible?

[fallow knot]

The Ethernet one is showing but I don’t see any Wi-Fi

[sage thunder]

the motherboard says wifi

[fallow knot]

Yes

[fallow knot]

No msi z790

Pro max Wi-Fi

[manic cloak]

Yes but i'm wondering whether you're using wifi or ethernet cause I might have smth that could save you more

[sage thunder]

oh

[fallow knot]

I downloaded drivers for Ethernet

[sage thunder]

mostly wifi

so

[fallow knot]

I want to use Wi-Fi

[sage thunder]

i use ethernet if i start to lag though

[manic cloak]

usually on msi's website

[fallow knot]

Since I can only use a phone hotspot rn

Chrissy pls save me

[manic cloak]

@fallow knot https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/PRO-Z790-A-MAX-WIFI/support

[fallow knot]

Yeah that one

[manic cloak]

it should be under drivers and LAN

[fallow knot]

I see intel chipset driver

Is that the one?

For win 10

I downloaded it and restarted but no Wi-Fi options shows up

[manic cloak]

Intel Network Drivers

[potent portal]

https://download.msi.com/dvr_exe/mb/intel_wifi_driver_WT.zip

[manic cloak]

or that

[potent portal]

It's under "LAN drivers"

[fallow knot]

I still don’t see any Wi-Fi options

Do I need to connect the antenna for it to work? Lol

Ffs

[potent portal]

yes'

Here's the bluetooth driver too while we're at it https://download.msi.com/dvr_exe/mb/bt_driver_WT.zip

Also it'll probably not show wifi as long as you're connected by a different method, like ethernet or tethering

[sage thunder]

is it bad that i use bing as a browser (mainly for microsoft rewards)

[potent portal]

Bing is a search engine though, not a browser

[sage thunder]

typo mb

i meant edge

[potent portal]

Edge? That's fine tbh

It's mostly preference

[fallow knot]

Life saver thank you

[sage thunder]

i feel like people overhate on edge

[potent portal]

Edge is less customizable and you can't use ad blockers, so tech savvy people will avoid it

[fallow knot]

I don’t get internet till Tuesday so using the hotspot is saving me

[sage thunder]

yes u can, adblock plus is on edge

all chrome extensions work on edge

[potent portal]

It doesn't work as well

[sage thunder]

true

but i like the free robux like every 3 days

because i grind the daily stuff

[potent portal]

Like I said, preference

[manic cloak]

free robux?

[sage thunder]

microsoft rewards

[manic cloak]

oohhhh

[potent portal]

I'm a firefox user myself. Stupid Chromium browsers and their war against ad block.

[manic cloak]

falcie uh how do I get opera to stop stealing my data

[sage thunder]

delete it

install firefox

[potent portal]

Use Brave instead

[manic cloak]

oh wow! how did it ever know to give me ad preference on dole whip cause I just got a ninja creami and ONLY use opera!

[sage thunder]

firefox is cool too

[sage thunder]

you can turn those off

pretty easy too

its a setting

[manic cloak]

ik but still, doesn't stop my info from being sold

I don't use edge or chrome or any other browser

I just opened edge for the rewards cause I heard free robux 😭

[sage thunder]

its the quest

im goated at them

then i use an extension for the searches

[plucky timber]

I use librewolf

[potent portal]

fr, if you care about this stuff, Brave

[plucky timber]

Does adblock work on brave?

It's chromium based

[manic cloak]

I might tbh

but ya I was wondering about ad blockers

and extensions to

I have a hulu and youtube ad skipper

[plucky timber]

Imo brave is too bloated for me

[potent portal]

It has one built in

https://brave.com/learn/category/ad-blocker/

[plucky timber]

Brave is better than most chromium browsers aside from Ungoogled Chromium so

🤷‍♂️

opera gx

[potent portal]

It's also one of the only browsers with all the privacy options enabled by default

[plucky timber]

Based

So basically it's a chrome version of librewolf

With more features

[potent portal]

That's one way to think of it

[sage thunder]

i love the newegg server so many nerds to help me 🙏

[potent portal]

https://tenor.com/view/retro-commercial-candy-nerds-gif-12537956

[plucky timber]

We love seeing money put to good use

Rather than uhh

$3000 pc with a NZXT case and a RTX 3060

[potent portal]

"Guys I heard about this thing called NZXT Flex..."

[manic cloak]

"can anyone tell me which build redux pc is best for"

thank god they rebranded to actual prebuilts and not the old choose which games you play n etc

[sage thunder]

guys thats like average.. heh… my intel 1 ½ intergrated graphics with my temu motherboard no thermal paste get 156.FOUR trillion fps..

[fallow knot]

Yeah idk bruh I downloaded the windows 10 lan drivers and still nothing

The Ethernet works

But I can’t get the Wi-Fi option to even show up

[vocal hare]

whats your mobo

wait lan?

not wlan+bt?

usually it says wifi drivers

[manic cloak]

scroll up a little bit

[manic cloak]

this is it

[vocal hare]

on msi's website it has all the network stuff on the same tab

but thats for w11

w10 i see intel drivers

i mean i guess you can search up the driver from qualcom

[potent portal]

Wait

NCM865 is a Wifi 7 chipset

[vocal hare]

may only be windows 11

[potent portal]

If that's actually the chipset then it won't work on Windows 10 at all

[vocal hare]

msi has a seperate pcie wifi card with the same chipset

[potent portal]

Windows 10 doesn't support wifi 7

2 reasons for that, no drivers and missing functionality from the OS

[vocal hare]

looks like intel is the only vendor that has driver for 10

[potent portal]

Yep, and their driver is missing several features like 6GHz band

[vocal hare]

but even then you arent getting all the features

i mean as much as i've resisted windows 11 on my personal rig

thats mostly because i'm worried important stuff gets borked in the upgrade

[potent portal]

If you debloat 11 and disable telemetry it's not so bad

[vocal hare]

i mean its like 90% windows 10

some things nicer some things worse

I which local accounts were a given

but I mean i have to use microsoft stuff for school

[potent portal]

You can still do a local account on 11

In fact I have a file handy you might be interested in that you just drop into the install usb

[vocal hare]

I don't like having to do cmd workarounds

[potent portal]

It's not that, it's literally drag and drop a file

[vocal hare]

why didn't they just let us keep the startup without internet method

I just installed 11 on my brothers new ssd the other day

[vocal hare]

was a lil surprised when it installed drivers as part of the install

[potent portal]

Once this file is on the USB you just install as you would normally and it'll skip the most annoying parts of the installation process, while automatically creating an admin user and bypassing the wifi requirement

At least 3 people have successfully used this

[vocal hare]

woulda been more confidence inspiring without the 3 person statement

its fine

[potent portal]

I mean 3 have used this exact file successfully

[vocal hare]

I got a lot of microsoft integrated stuff so

[potent portal]

The autounattend file has been used by system admins since at least Windows XP

[vocal hare]

my program likes using ms stuff

anywayt at least we figured out rigs issue

[sage thunder]

https://www.newegg.com/amd-ryzen-5-8600g-ryzen-5-8000-g-series-phoenix-zen-4-socket-am5/p/N82E16819113814?item=N82E16819113814 does this come with a cooling fan?

[potent portal]

Yes

[sage thunder]

oh okay mb

i upgraded my storage to 512 because i accidentally had it as 128 and i still got 10 bucks to spend

🫃

[fallow knot]

Dang so there is no option for Wi-Fi to work unless I upgrade to win11?

[compact light]

so I should out a 4gb in A1 and 8 gb in A2 and same for B1/2 right?

or 8gb in the first and 4 gb in second

and also should I disable xmp profile if I do that

[analog hearth]

Just stagger them

Like: 4GB, 8GB, 4GB, 8GB

in that order

Just realized that message was sent like five hours ago bruh

[dusky hearth]

you dont have to* but don't expect it to be stable, and you might have to set a lower freq

lmao

[sage thunder]

https://www.newegg.com/amd-ryzen-5-8600g-ryzen-5-8000-g-series-phoenix-zen-4-socket-am5/p/N82E16819113814?tpk=1&item=N82E16819113814 does this come with a cpu cooler

i forgot

[dusky hearth]

yes

[vocal hare]

I'm almost entirely sure I didn't see bent pins but I wanted a second pair of eyes

[manic cloak]

I don’t see any

[dusky hearth]

I don't see any either

Somewhat hard to tell from a few images but there's nothing that jumps out

[wide sparrow]

Looks perfectly fine to me despite how we're limited by your phone's megapixels

And discord compression

[vocal hare]

I think it’s the compression

[plucky timber]

Size issue

[vocal hare]

Pics were from a s21

[plucky timber]

Small sensor

[vocal hare]

But thanks guys

[wide sparrow]

Smartphone sensors are inferior to dedicated cameras

[plucky timber]

16MP sensors can have better image quality

I want bigger sensors on phones

[vocal hare]

Holy crap that resistance is crazy wth

Maybe I’m just weak from being sick for 4 days but

[wide sparrow]

Perhaps

[languid nimbus]

Ahh nope looks ruined send it to me for proper disposal

[vocal hare]

God I hate when twist ties are too tight and they leave indents on the cables

[manic cloak]

it's discord compression

[sage thunder]

what does this mean? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pZvYQd

i need usb ports and headphones jack and idk if that means it doesnt have those

[mossy venture]

You're fine it's not needed

[potent portal]

That means you won't be able to use the front USB C port on the case without an adapter. The standard type A ports will still work.

[sage thunder]

oh okay, thanks 🙏

[vocal hare]

This has been the longest build on my bloody life

How long is the average post for am5

Welp I hit the reset button and it post right away

[potent portal]

If it gets stuck like that it's a sign that you should disable "memory context restore"

It'll take a little longer to POST but it won't randomly freeze up like that

[cyan ravine]

I'm of the mind ryzen 9000 or late bioses just seem to have god awful first post time?

This is like the 4th or 5th time I've seen it on short notice with no attributed issue yet

[vocal hare]

Think this is gonna give me any issues?

Initially thought it was like a slight chip but upon looking at the side profile it’s actually slightly raised

[potent portal]

Good old RM850x. Nah that's normal.

[vocal hare]

Manufacturing?

[potent portal]

It's designed that way, so if you need to wedge it out of the socket you can

[vocal hare]

Oh that’s actually kind of smart

But don’t you generally want cables flush?

[potent portal]

It's not like you're going to be looking at it every day

[vocal hare]

So I’m good

It do be ugly as sin but yeah I ain’t gonna see it

Kinda like this slight chip in the pcb

[potent portal]

Yeah you'd never see that

[vocal hare]

Ngl I thought it was part of the design til I put a flashlight on it

Ugh this mobo is nice and all

[cyan ravine]

Just looks like a manufacturing blemish instead of a chip

Pcb chipping is more like, papery looking

[vocal hare]

But why gigabyte

[cyan ravine]

Idk what we're looking at now but most this will be behind a gpu

[potent portal]

You won't see that behind the GPU anyway right

[vocal hare]

No that’s the bloody grounding standoff screw hole

Under the ssd heat sink

[cyan ravine]

Oh that

They do that a lot yeah

My x570s has that

[vocal hare]

So ima have to take it off when I get all my screws in then put it back on

[cyan ravine]

That's not my big complaint with gigglebit tho, I hate the m.2 standoffs way more

[potent portal]

The boards that are completely covered in heatsinks have it even worse, you need to take them all off to screw the board in 💀

[vocal hare]

I thought the ez latch would be easy

[cyan ravine]

The m.2 standoffs often break

The screws AND the standoffs

[vocal hare]

This is tool less

[cyan ravine]

Good

They sucked at it

[vocal hare]

Am I good to peel the hexagon sticker on the psu?

[cyan ravine]

It's not enough to stop me telling someone to buy one (It's a one day experience) but annoying enough I fringe on complete loathing lmao

[vocal hare]

Usually my psus aren’t riddled in stickers

I mean gigabyte bios do be nice

[potent portal]

Peel away

That applies to everything except the SSD, the sticker doubles as a heat spreader for that

[flint sapphire]

Wait

Jk peel away

[vocal hare]

Like is that a scuff or manufacturing like you said

[potent portal]

Whatever the cause it won't affect anything and you won't see it when it's in the case

[lone flame]

@cyan ravine what is this even used for 💀

[potent portal]

Besides actual work like blender, could use it for Lossless Scaling

[cyan ravine]

Ah yes, the "I need faster blender so let me buy 2 amd cards" pc

[potent portal]

Frame gen globally doing that even with unsupported games is fun

[lone flame]

ykw hes running that in the same case i use

let me go grab my 6700xt i have an idea

[potent portal]

https://www.tomshardware.com/video-games/pc-gaming/offloading-lossless-scaling-frame-gen-to-secondary-gpu-eliminates-overhead

[lone flame]

time for double 5090s baby

[vocal hare]

I hate myself so much

[lone flame]

gimmie that 2000w psu

[potent portal]

Nah that would be a total waste. For 4k frame gen the most you would need is like a 1070.

[vocal hare]

I was reseating my mobo and it slipped like an inch

Like it never left my hand but idk

I took it out and I don’t think I saw any dmg but you never know

Ive never taken this long to get a pc going

[weary galleon]

https://tenor.com/view/in-shock-gif-17553158948252598097

[obsidian wigeon]

can i do this to my igpu

i should try

[potent portal]

I wouldn't unless it was a G class APU

Or a laptop, those tend to be pretty good

[obsidian wigeon]

yeah i got my lappy

igp is 680m lmao

should be enough

[potent portal]

Yeah worth a shot

[obsidian wigeon]

the overhead is insane since the 4050 is already maxed out in games i wanna do some frame generation

instead of smoothness i get more stuttering

[vocal hare]

@potent portal what do you think about what happened

I’m just so worried now

[potent portal]

Modern motherboards have "safe zones" around the motherboard standoffs just in case of this exact situation, so if it gets scratched around the standoff it doesn't break

[vocal hare]

It’s not that

[teal dome]

Is it worth upgrading my gpu from 3070 to whatever? I want to get a 1440p display, running a 12700k with 750w psu

[potent portal]

7900 XT might be a good upgrade

[vocal hare]

I was lowering it down holding the top half and ot was tilted downward the bottom half just unexpectedly shifted down an inch to the case

[teal dome]

Isn't that like the most expensive amd gpu or am I tripping ( I'm a broke college student)

[potent portal]

You're thinking of the 7900 XTX

[vocal hare]

7900xt is 650

[teal dome]

Kappa

[potent portal]

Alternatively a 7900 GRE

Whichever you can get cheaper, prices are wild right now

[teal dome]

Maybe not that high end (I play league)

[vocal hare]

But like when the motherboard shifted it made a noise it all happened so fast idk if it scraped up against something or that was just the sound of the board making contact with the standoffs

[potent portal]

Funny thing to note, AMD does better in many esports games because there's less driver overhead

[teal dome]

What's the different between gre and xt?

[potent portal]

Mostly memory speed

[plucky timber]

It's XTX > XT > GRE

[potent portal]

If you overclock the memory on the GRE it can get close to the XT in performance

[teal dome]

Wdym memory speed

Is the 7800xt being 333 right?

[plucky timber]

That's not bad

[teal dome]

Has to be fake right

[plucky timber]

Link?

It could be

[potent portal]

New? No that's suspiciously low

[plucky timber]

$333 is sus for new

Yeah sus

[potent portal]

Yeah scamazon

[plucky timber]

Scamazon

[potent portal]

lol

[plucky timber]

They don't vet their products

Also doxxed

[potent portal]

Just look at the seller name lmao

[plucky timber]

You should delete that pic

[teal dome]

WOOPS

I forgot

Do not dox

[vocal hare]

God I’m so stressed out now, I was so happy it finally posted and now I’m back to despair

[plucky timber]

I've done that a couple times

[potent portal]

Like I said, safe zones around where the standoffs are to save you in this exact scenario

As long as the scrape isn't more than 2 layers deep

[teal dome]

I'm guessing 3070 to 7700xt isn't too big of a jump? Im running 1080p on 3070 and want to run 1440p on 7700xt

[obsidian wigeon]

nope

[potent portal]

Meh

[obsidian wigeon]

you'd get more performance because of more vram but eh

[plucky timber]

Not worth

Isn't RTX getting some perf uplift?

[obsidian wigeon]

i'd probably

buy a 7800xt

[teal dome]

Hmm okay, I might look for 7800 then, 7900 is too overkill for me

[plucky timber]

Ehhh

[potent portal]

If you mean DLSS 4.0 then yes but also no

[obsidian wigeon]

7900 gre?

[plucky timber]

The 7900 isn't overkill really

[teal dome]

Any 7900, I am never using all that

[plucky timber]

It's closer to a 50 series competitor

Ah makes sense

I'm chilling on a 3070m so

[obsidian wigeon]

i don't know the market conditions rn

but maybe a 5070 (i hate it so much)

[teal dome]

Like bro the games I play are league and hsr and I mostly use my pc for school work and videos 💀💀, I just wanna get a good 1440p gpu for casual gaming and good sustain for future

[plucky timber]

6750XT/7700XT < 7800XT < 7900XT/GRE < 7900XTX

[obsidian wigeon]

12gb for $549 is criminal

but well that's fair

[plucky timber]

Radeons dominate the mid range

[obsidian wigeon]

now that makes sense

you really don't need a 7900

[plucky timber]

Yeah

[obsidian wigeon]

heck 3070 will be okay lmao

[teal dome]

Also never buying nvidia again, bought 3070, so many crashes and such less performance

[potent portal]

I think you got those greater than/less than signs mixed up

[plucky timber]

?

Oh crap

[obsidian wigeon]

yep

[teal dome]

I agree too, works well but I want to get into 1440p I love higher picture quality

[plucky timber]

I meant 7700 instead of 7800

[obsidian wigeon]

a 7800xt it is

[potent portal]

lol

[plucky timber]

Fixed

[obsidian wigeon]

no higher than that

[potent portal]

There you go

[teal dome]

I'm a little spoiled, don't need crazy specs for now, just enough for a 1440p

[plucky timber]

Yeah all the radeons are pretty good value for your money anyways

[potent portal]

7800 XT can do 1440p medium/high depending on game so that's a fair target

[plucky timber]

I wonder

Are there used 7800XTs?

[obsidian wigeon]

hsr and league is ez to run

[teal dome]

Prob not, they still kinda new mo?

[plucky timber]

Nah

They're an entire gen old now

[teal dome]

I still see those 1650's and 20 series cards only lol

[plucky timber]

There's like no low end so

The low end is actually just dead

There is intel... (Or an igpu)

[teal dome]

Anyways thanks guys, I doxxed myself but I think I'll be fine, gn!

[potent portal]

Yesn't
AMD next gen isn't out yet and Nvidia is effectively non-existent

We don't expect new midrange stuff until like May

Ok let me clarify, 5070 by the end of Feb, 5060/ti by the end of april

But stock issues throughout

Because Nvidia simply isn't making as many gaming dies these days, in favor of the AI stuff they get 800%+ profit margin on

[plucky timber]

The NgreedAI meme is real

[lone flame]

would this work with my XFX 6950?

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08X4FDTX2?

randomly scrolling thru amazon looking at watercooling stuff cause im bored and found it

[potent portal]

Probably if it's one of the listed models

[lone flame]

only the 6800/6900 XT, but mine shares the exact same cooler

[potent portal]

Sure it might share the same cooler but does it share the same PCB is the question

[lone flame]

https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/would-a-waterblock-made-for-the-6900xt-fit-the-6950xt.304043/

ik thats not the xfx pcb but

i cant imagine the 6900 being that much different to the 6950

[potent portal]

One capacitor out of place will make it incompatible

What's your exact model number?

[lone flame]

yeah I get it, makes sense. not going to watercool anything tomorrow, just thinking long term, definitely a bucket list thing for me to do a loop

[potent portal]

I can look at PCB pics on techpowerup to see if it's the same PCB

I just need the model number to do it

[lone flame]

where would I find that?

I can send you the link to my exact GPU?

[potent portal]

That'll work

[lone flame]

695XATBD9

I have the box sitting next to me lol

[potent portal]

Speedster merc, got it

Hmm no PCB pics on TPU

[sage thunder]

is 32 gigs of ddr5 and 512 gigabytes of storage good? im guessing it is but still. (im coming from a 256 gig steam deck lcd)

[potent portal]

A bit low on the storage but that should do for at least 5-10 games, depending on which ones

[potent portal]

Cheaper and on the compat list https://www.formulamod.com/Bykski-GPU-Water-Cooling-Block-For-XFX-RX-6950XT6900XT6800XT-Speedster-Merc-319-Vastarmor-6950XT-A-XF6900XT-X-p3104516.html

[sage thunder]

its mainly a upgradable budget build so i might put in another 512 stick in later on to get a terabyte

[potent portal]

Just double check which PCB you got according to the listing

Yep that'll do fine

1TB is $40 right now too

[sage thunder]

link? the one i see is about 50

[potent portal]

$48 https://pcpartpicker.com/products/compare/64MTwP,7tCFf7,drwypg/

Yeah that's the cheap/good ones

[sage thunder]

oh okay, im a couple bucks short so ill just get two 512 gig sticks because im guessing its the same

[potent portal]

It's a few bucks more to do it that way but still a viable option

[cyan ravine]

Just get 1 1tb

You'll regret that later, when you want more and you used the slots

There's no benefit to a whole separate drive in the budget context

[sage thunder]

ion got enough money though

[cyan ravine]

Well if you intend to have 1TB then save for it

[sage thunder]

how many slots does my motherboard have? https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-b650m-gaming-plus-wifi-micro-atx-amd-b650-am5/p/N82E16813145502?tpk=1&item=N82E16813145502

im guessing 2

[potent portal]

Correct 2

[sage thunder]

ok

well if i upgrade to two 512 ill be fine with a terabyte max since i dont play intense games

i play like undertale and roblox

so

[mossy venture]

I remember your 5600/6700xt for what was it, $450?

[mossy venture]

Why not get 1 512gb now

And add a second larger one later

[rain carbon]

^

Because in the future if you want beefier storage you'll have the option without having an ssd laying around

[muted shore]

Looking for a ram for my laptop
TEAMGROUP Elite DDR4 32GB Kit (2 x 16GB) 3200MHz PC4-25600 CL22 Unbuffered Non-ECC 1.2V SODIMM 260-Pin Laptop Notebook PC Computer Memory Module Ram Upgrade - TED432G3200C22DC-S01

Found this for 55 dollars

[potent portal]

Does the laptop have upgradeable memory

If you're not sure, what model is it?

[lone flame]

interestingly enough it also fits whatever brand this is 😂

never heard of it but kind of a cool looking card

[muted shore]

strix scar 15 g533qs

Upto 64gb

3200mhz

[potent portal]

Yep that takes standard DDR4 SODIMM modules

And yes up to 3200

$40 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09C8NP2FD?th=1

[proper night]

Is Thermalright TF4 a serviceable thermal paste? Some came packed with the Thermalright coolers I ordered.

[stoic island]

It's a reasonable cheap paste, works just fine in general

It's slightly worse than their tf7 paste, but that's on the scale of something like a 0.2c difference

[proper night]

So for an Intel i5 12400F running at stock clocks with a Thermalright Assassin X 120 it’ll should be sufficient?

[stoic island]

Yep

[proper night]

As an aside, I’ve noticed that some MOBO power button cables don’t actually show which side is positive and negative. If it’s not printed, does the orientation matter?

[potent portal]

Not for buttons, no

LEDs yes

[proper night]

The LEDs do show pos and neg. It’s just the power and reset buttons that don’t. The board documentation shows pos and neg so I just wanted to make extra sure.

I noticed the instructions had me orient the mount in such a way that the cooler base won’t fully cover the rectangular cpu. Is it worth rotating the mount 90 degrees for that extra coverage and if so how should I orient the cooler fan?

Top case is intake and rear is exhaust

This case doesn’t have front intakes.

[stoic island]

That is quite the interesting case design lol. The cooler not contacting the edge of the IHS is a bit annoying but not too concerning, the die itself is centered so I don't foresee it being a big difference if it doesn't contact the edges of the IHS

[proper night]

So traditional orientation with the cooler blowing the same direction as the exhaust should be fine?

Also do PCIe Wi-Fi cards really need the heat spreaders they come with? I’m running into a clearance issue.

The cooler is pushing down against the audio header causing a slight bend.

[runic flare]

Is there a channel for this or a place where they’re all saved?

[teal dome]

500ish

[cyan ravine]

Ask in either #windows-ios or #overclocking depending on your need

We save what's worth saving, the rest is pretty dynamic

[dusky hearth]

Buttons just short the pins
Yes, the polarity is important on the board side or else you won't be able to short the pins
But no, buttons and switches are generally not directional, since all it does is press 2 contacts together to complete a circuit

[dusky hearth]

Ideally, yes, they can get quite toasty
Also that's just a terrible placement of the audio header, you should try to find a 90° adapter for it, though it's also not too fragile and probably would be fine?

[potent portal]

Generally yes or it will drop out in the middle of a large download from overheating. You could try bending it or cutting it where it's interfering.

[sage thunder]

can anyone help cut my budget i forgot to factor in the psu

i need to save like 40

[proper night]

This despite the fact that lots of PCIE net cards are sold without heat spreaders?

[potent portal]

Those ones either don't use as much power or they're not meant for sustained transfers

Having owned one of those in the past I can say it's annoying when your connection cuts out and the wifi card disappears during a Steam download

[sage thunder]

@potent portal

[potent portal]

You could drop down to a 8500G

[crimson zinc]

Go used

You could go down to 16GB of ram, a lot of games don’t require 32gb
Newer games do though

[potent portal]

8500G saves you $60 https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256806959714543.html

[sage thunder]

i cant use ali

[proper night]

A 90 degree adapter wouldn’t work because the case is in the way.

So I guess the question is whether it’s better to bend/cut the spreader or trust that the bend won’t damage long term function.

[dusky hearth]

to be perfectly honest

front panel audio isnt that good anyways in terms of quality, you would usually want to use the rear io audio for the best signal from the mobo dac, unless you get a external dac

[potent portal]

Bending a few fins on the heatsink won't significantly impact the performance on a device like this

The important part is the extra thermal mass rather than any kind of active cooling

[sage thunder]

https://a.co/d/4CVTG4Q should i downgrade to ddr4?

or is it a giant decrease

@potent portal

[potent portal]

Not physically possible

[sage thunder]

wdym

[potent portal]

It won't fit

[sage thunder]

oh

so it has to be ddr5?

[potent portal]

You would need to get a CPU and motherboard that support DDR4 too

Yes

[sage thunder]

okay

[crimson zinc]

@sage thunder it would lack further upgrades, but ddr4/am4 is fine for a budget build

[potent portal]

12600K or 13400 would be decent budget options and you can use DDR4 on them without too much performance loss

[sage thunder]

is one stick of 16 gb fine or does it have to be two sticks

[crimson zinc]

Two >

[crimson zinc]

Set em up a list

[sage thunder]

so i should get 2 8gb sticks

[dusky hearth]

1 stick of 16gb ddr4 would cost barely any less than 2 sticks of 8gb with a huge performance decrease due to it being single channel

[potent portal]

Can't right now, getting called by the dentist

[sage thunder]

so 2 8gb?

[dusky hearth]

so you save like a buck or 2 but lose so much performance by using 1 stick lmao

so yes, 2 sticks of 8gb

[sage thunder]

https://a.co/d/e3cRzga is this good?

[dusky hearth]

hmm
doesnt ddr5 need a heat spreader or is it fine at those low speeds...

i have no clue

[sage thunder]

okay is there anything besides ram i can downgrade

[potent portal]

No heat spreader is fine up to about 5600

[dusky hearth]

i see

[potent portal]

6000+ increases the voltage requirement

[sage thunder]

so should i get this

[potent portal]

You can, and we can help you optimize the performance. All DDR5 is capable of doing at least 6000 speed pretty easily, as long as it's not Corsair which locks the voltage.

[crimson zinc]

@sage thunder what’s your budget

[dusky hearth]

Five hundo

[sage thunder]

500

ruh roh

should i go to 600 instead of 650 watts

[tawny violet]

At the same price no

[sage thunder]

no to lose a couple bucks

https://www.newegg.com/thermaltake-smart-series-ps-spd-0600npcwus-w-600w/p/N82E16817153232?Item=N82E16817153232&tpk=1 is this a good psu

[rain carbon]

It might be a good idea to have a little extra wattage

[sage thunder]

okay ill check to see if theres a cheaper 650

https://www.newegg.com/p/1HU-00Z0-000U1?tpk=1&Item=9SIBGX1K8T9298 ?

is that a good brand?

[rain carbon]

I have never heard of that brand in my life

Looked it up and it looks pretty middling

[sage thunder]

ok but does it seem good

[rain carbon]

Its hard to find info on it

[sage thunder]

dang so i shouldnt get it?

[rain carbon]

Might be good to look a tad more

Ill look too rq

[rain carbon]

https://www.newegg.com/msi-mag-a650bn-650-w-80-plus-bronze-certified/p/N82E16817701013

Its 50 dollars with the code if you buy it today

And its bacca approved

[sage thunder]

what code

[rain carbon]

It says on the page

[sage thunder]

oh ok

[rain carbon]

Its free ship too

[sage thunder]

yeah thats good thanks guys

[rain carbon]

Np

[crimson zinc]

@sage thunder you okay with used?

[rain carbon]

I think that psu deal ends tomorrow btw

[sage thunder]

i would perfer amazon used or newegg used because then i pnly have to buy from two places

[crimson zinc]

Did you need a gpu?

[rain carbon]

They're going igpu

So I'm guessing what they're doing isn't too intensive

[mossy venture]

Oh

[mossy venture]

That was alr linked lmao

Ty

Theyre doing an 8600g build and they're gonna upgrade later

Was a very strict $500 budget

[rain carbon]

Oh lmao

[crimson zinc]

@sage thunder can you buy from anywhere else? I can squeeze you about $100 for gpu

[mossy venture]

Their parents are being frustrating abt it

[rain carbon]

Dont know if its worth, could be better just to wait to upgrade

[mossy venture]

Originally they had found a 1080 for $110 or smthn like that and were going for an am4 build

[mossy venture]

Hes doing fairly light gaming atm, i think it makes sense to have a functioning build now

Most demanding game is marvel rivals iirc

[rain carbon]

Hmm

[crimson zinc]

@mossy venture what’s the Vega 7 equal to?

[mossy venture]

Like a 1030 if not worse

[rain carbon]

Its pretty mid yeah

[mossy venture]

Tho 8600g idt stays at 1080p60fps

[crimson zinc]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GKsfFZ

Boom

[mossy venture]

1650 :p

[rain carbon]

Not bad not bad

[crimson zinc]

It’s the cheapest gpu I could find on Newegg that had a decent use

[mossy venture]

Idk their parents wouldn't let them buy either a cpu or gpu used, but they could do anything else used

[rain carbon]

Thats oddly picky

My parents don't even know enough about computers to discriminate those parts

[crimson zinc]

@sage thunder would your parents trust Jawa.gg? It is reputable.

They could get a 1070 for $90 there

Or a 1660 super for $99

There’s a decent prebuilt on Jawa

[mossy venture]

This is my version just to free up some more money for gpu
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sCMxb2

But iirc they bought some stuff already and they want an upgrade path

[crimson zinc]

https://www.jawa.gg/product/57883/ryzen-5-5500-or-radeon-5700-or-fractal-north

[stoic island]

Would need shipping and would go over $500 unfortunately

[crimson zinc]

https://www.jawa.gg/product/55505/custom-ryzen-itx-gaming-pc

[mossy venture]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/135467859907?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=afYn7nlBQpS&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=r8em-zv_qyc&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

$380 ps5 lol

[thorn mural]

b550/5600x or intel equivalent?

[mossy venture]

Budget for the whole build?

[thorn mural]

The rest of the build exists, just looking for cpu and motherboard upgrade for a friend of mine

between $200 and $250 ideally

[mossy venture]

Ah alright. What's the current build?

[thorn mural]

se214xt 2x120mm fan cooler, 32gb ddr4, 6750xt, 600w psu

[thorn mural]

looking for something that stays within this price range and doesnt need a new cpu cooler

[mossy venture]

This would be a bit better than the 5600/x
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Mtd2Fg

[thorn mural]

Thanks!

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3rsmk9

If he wants it a bit cheaper

5600/x was good thinking

[thorn mural]

Any notable differences between these three on the h670

[mossy venture]

Performance wise nah it'll be the same, but the other two might have some extra ports and such

[thorn mural]

I see

Would a 214xt cooler be able to handle the 12600kf?

[mossy venture]

Yeah it'll be alright especially just for gaming

[thorn mural]

I remember the older i5s tended to heat up a lot but idk how they are now

[mossy venture]

If he's doing intensive multi core loads it'll get a bit toasty, but it can be swapped later on if needed

[dusky hearth]

-# Riptide? Why would he say that, they play this on the radio?? That's messed up

[thorn mural]

"Riptede" 😂

[thorn mural]

Which would you recommend, the 12600kf route or 5600

[mossy venture]

12600kf is like 10% better depending on the game personally if prefer the extra perf

It's not end of the world to save the money tho

[proper night]

My solution to the net cards was to unscrew it, shift it up on the board and hold it down with a zip tie

This should leave room for the Audio header and as the sticky thermal pad is still making good contact, the spreader should still be doing its job

[weary galleon]

I love zipties

2 out of the 3 case fans in my current build are at least partially held in place with zipties

[proper night]

It does look like the header is still bending a little but hopefully it’s still less stress and I’ll advise the recipient of this gift to prioritize use of the rear audio out.

[rustic terrace]

yo what’s a 1k budget gaming pc

A good one imma buy thursday

[rustic terrace]

pmo

[mossy venture]

Huh?

[rustic terrace]

Good pc build for 1k max

[mossy venture]

Do you know what pmo means?

[mossy venture]

Please goes a long way, first of all. Second, pmo means piss me off. Third, I'm not paid to help you.

Check your tone at the door and try again

[rustic terrace]

Oh shi mb bro thats jus how we speak wit respect where im from but thats mb big bro

if u could please help me ou t

[rustic terrace]

like put me on

thats what it means where im from

i apoligize tho fr

i rlly dident mean anythiung bads

[mossy venture]

My bad then, sorry

Yeah I got you

Building yourself?

[dusky hearth]

acronyms have a lot of shared meanings, hmu (hit me up) would be a more widely used acronym
tbf "piss(es) me off" wouldnt really make sense in this context

[rustic terrace]

yeah brodiie

[rustic terrace]

mb fr

i aint mean nun crazy by it

[plucky timber]

yeah like sawcon

[rustic terrace]

its jus how i speak but i will correct it for future refrences

[mossy venture]

Nah its my bad i was too harsh

[dusky hearth]

have you gone to sawcon

[mossy venture]

Sorry

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4GhNgn

[rustic terrace]

Nah it’s good

[mossy venture]

Gpu pricing is kinda wack rn

[rustic terrace]

Ummm ok ok yeah i’m selling my pc tomm

[mossy venture]

Thats what I'd go for at this budget though

[rustic terrace]

rlly?

damm

[plucky timber]

https://tenor.com/view/yuimetal-gif-2236335851178412850

[rustic terrace]

Ok ok

[dusky hearth]

i heard they have alot of wood there

[mossy venture]

7700xt was $400 until earlier tdy

[rustic terrace]

what if i went like 100 higher

or 200

[mossy venture]

If youd buy a used gpu that would be good

[gentle pollen]

I feel like this is why acronyms and abbreviations should only be used when you first say what you mean by it and then put the acronym it abbreviation next to it in parentheses for future use.

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XQKVGJ

7800xt at $490 is great

Whats your current pc?

[gentle pollen]

Example:

If I recall correctly (IIRC).

[dusky hearth]

meh, you wouldnt need to do that for most abbreviations in texting
like, i'd hope you wouldnt need somebody to explain "lol"

[rustic terrace]

This bs 😭🙏🏽

[dusky hearth]

dont buy the 3050

[gentle pollen]

When I first heard of it I did.

[rustic terrace]

No this what i got rn

It’s ass ngl

[dusky hearth]

oh

my condolences

[rustic terrace]

nah u gucci

[dusky hearth]

this is the most pcmr build in existence

complete with corsair ram

[gentle pollen]

Pcmr?

[mossy venture]

Could technichally upgrade but I agree it's a good idea to just resell the whole thing

[dusky hearth]

pc master race

the subreddit specifically

[gentle pollen]

Non modular power supply units drive me insane.

[dusky hearth]

i like semi modular

[gentle pollen]

Semi makes sense at least because there are some cables that you know always will be used

[covert vapor]

Non modulars are fine as long as the cables are long enough

[rustic terrace]

so this one i should get then

[gentle pollen]

Like the 24 pin motherboard cables.

[rustic terrace]

?

[covert vapor]

If they cheap out and make them too short then pain

[rustic terrace]

ppl told me to sell and restart ngl

[dusky hearth]

yeah there is some room for upgrades but since you have the budget, a new build would make sense

can go to am5 with ddr5

and be ready for a cpu upgrade w/e

[rustic terrace]

So upgrade or sell it completely

I kinda need the money from the sell ngl

[dusky hearth]

sell complete

[rustic terrace]

😭🙏🏽

oh aii good then

[mossy venture]

There could be some personal preference changes, like if you want a bigger case you can swap, or if you want a quieter cooler you can get one for $15-30, or if you have ethernet can save $20 on motherboard

[dusky hearth]

honestly might be easier to sell if you part it out, though it will take more time

[rustic terrace]

So this the pc i should get then

jus making sure

[mossy venture]

But yeah thats a great build

[rustic terrace]

Nah ngl i dont rlly care to save a extra 20 or 30 i’ve been saving for a min for it

but i appreciate the effort

[mossy venture]

It's the same mobo just no wifi on it

But fair

[rustic terrace]

Yeah betty I got wifi adapters liek 3 of them so imma use that

Betty thanks brodie

imma buy friday or thursday

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/FcbRsY/asrock-b650m-pro-rs-micro-atx-am5-motherboard-b650m-pro-rs

[mossy venture]

Np, feel free to ping me if any prices change or you have any questions

[rustic terrace]

ye right before i buy imma ping u to see if it’s still best

[shut rampart]

will a antec c5 fit a ASRock B850 STEEL LEGEND WIFI AM5 AMD B850 SATA 6Gb/s ATX Motherboard

[mossy venture]

according to pcpartpicker yes

[stark quail]

Is a 750W PSU good enough for the 9800X3D and a 2070 super?

[mossy venture]

Depends on the model, but general yeah

[stark quail]

It's the founders edition

[mossy venture]

Model of psu

[stark quail]

Uhhhh damn I don't remember ik it's Corsair maybe gold rated

[mossy venture]

Rm or rmx?

I don't think there's any bad corsair gold psus

The only meh psu they have is the CV and that's bronze

[stark quail]

Rmx

[mossy venture]

Yeah you're fine

Could run a 4080/9800x3d off that easily

[stark quail]

Oh really

[mossy venture]

Yeah the rmx is fantastic

[stark quail]

I was planning on upgrading to probably a 4080 or sum later on

[mossy venture]

I'd like to say 4090/9800x3d but I've only seen it tested with the 7800x3d

Only a 40w or so diff between the two tho

[stark quail]

Mhm

Bet thanks

[sage thunder]

just bought my pc parts!! i wanna thank everyone who helped me and u probably wont see me until it all gets here lmao

[languid nimbus]

[runic flare]

Did the full reset, getting a bit more frames but still not holding close to 240, around 180-200

Maybe just time to upgrade from the 4 year old parts?

[cyan ravine]

Did you wipe the ssd or just "Windows reset"

If you did the latter, yeah it won't improve much cos resetting a bunked install will just carry over registry corruption and bloat

[gentle pollen]

Is the RM1200x a good PSU? Amazon has a one that's refurbished in excellent condition for $149.

[tawny violet]

Oh HELL YEAH

for 149???

IMO immediate scoop

230 new in box

[gentle pollen]

Oh really?

I just need to get some more clients closed for work then my plan is to scoop that and a QHD 240hz OLED at $350

[gentle pollen]

K so the model is a Corsair RM1200x Shift.

80+ gold with a side interface

[tawny violet]

that's the newest

It can be handy in like

dual-chamber cases

But annoying in traditional towers

[cyan ravine]

I would get a 2025 one if you want a corsair one

They come with sleeved cables now

[tawny violet]

When did the Shift ones come out again?

[cyan ravine]

2025 RM1000e is more than enough for your system needs btw Alpha

2023?

Shift has never been on my radar

It's an upsell to just rotate the pcb plugs

Doesn't do anything else

[gentle pollen]

I still have every plan to upgrade to the 5090 or whatever I can afford once I can finally get around to it.

[cyan ravine]

5090 is fine

If I have 0 issues rn on a 600W 4090 you'll have no problem on a 1000W either

[gentle pollen]

Even on a 1000w with spikes and everything?

[cyan ravine]

At *most you'll need PBO off which is expected

Yes

[runic flare]

Wiped, did what you said. Windows media creation on usb

[cyan ravine]

How much did it improve

Rough guess

[runic flare]

Only like 10fps

[cyan ravine]

That's big

Did you do the debloat

[runic flare]

Yes

[gentle pollen]

I need to turn PBO off on my CPU by going with 1,000W?

[cyan ravine]

Running stock + XMP?

[runic flare]

Wdym stock?

Xmp is on

[cyan ravine]

Never said need, said may

[cyan ravine]

Everything else is stock

[cyan ravine]

Actually I worded it wrong, sorry

[runic flare]

Didn’t touch anything else yeah

[cyan ravine]

Fascinating that you're doing better than the paid optimisation already lmao

Next step would probably be RAM and CPU OC if you're up for it

GPU OC will get you a little too

We can help with that

[gentle pollen]

I'd like the peace of mind and ability to upgrade in the future so would 1,200W be warranted?

[cyan ravine]

There won't be any cheat sheet tho, it's a whole learning process

[cyan ravine]

I really doubt Nvidia would push more wattage next gen

[gentle pollen]

I like to mess around and tune my components as you are probably aware.

[gentle pollen]

I doubt that, I mean on CPU.

[cyan ravine]

600W already has people complaining profusely

[cyan ravine]

I mean I've run much worse on 1000W

I've seen 5090 spikes, I still think you can make 1000W work

If you can make 750 work with a 4090, I'm pretty sure 1000 can work on a 5090

[runic flare]

He didn’t wipe my drive, made another partition on it and installed a second windows for gaming on it. That’s why im guessing it wasn’t as good

[gentle pollen]

How much would a capable 1,000W vs +1,200W cost?

[cyan ravine]

Lmfaoooo

[cyan ravine]

Good 30% increase in price iirc

Kinda blegh

Anyway Vlad, I reckon your next steps is OC

Play some safe numbers, not too aggressive

Cos too far and it'll get slower

Which is what I believe is what happened to you

[runic flare]

would I need to make sure my PSU can allow it? 700W so there’s almost no room

[cyan ravine]

What's your specs again

8700k and wha now

3070?

No

[runic flare]

3070 oc 10850k

[cyan ravine]

Ye

That

Uh

[runic flare]

Uses like 600w last time I checked

[cyan ravine]

Which 700W?

[runic flare]

Evga gold 80+

[cyan ravine]

Which

There's like 30 of them

Lmao

[runic flare]

Hold up

https://www.scorptec.com.au/product/power-supplies/atx/83204-110-gq-0700-v4?gclid=CjwKCAjw_JuGBhBkEiwA1xmbRcm0m9w_ZacPLBqNUSaUVgOxk5HBYFHZEfyfQ4yeAkU2LT6jANvHXxoCObMQAvD_BwE

[runic flare]

This

[cyan ravine]

Yeah good spot tbh

You'll want a new one

OR

You power limit the 10850K pretty hard

[runic flare]

How much difference will overclocking cpu and ram make anyway? I’ve never done this before, just in rough terms

[cyan ravine]

Depending on how good you are at it, considering it's fortnite, up to like 60% tbh

14nm Intel scaled crazy well with overclocking

[gentle pollen]

In my experience about 6% on average.

On AMD though.

Gtg now

[cyan ravine]

You could just limit the CPU power, then just do ram and GPU Vlad

That would cover quite a lot imo

But ideally the CPU as well

[runic flare]

Yeah done GPU but it’s just pointless for Fortnite

[cyan ravine]

Ye cos it's cpu and ram limited

[runic flare]

Yup so I’ll remove that and try ram

Thoughts?

[cyan ravine]

Back everything up before you begin

[runic flare]

Or just cpu?

[cyan ravine]

Ram will do a lot

RAM > CPU imo

A conservative overclock would be quite productive

[runic flare]

Fresh windows nothing to back up 😂

[cyan ravine]

Hey man just checking lol

[runic flare]

Ahah appreciate you making sure

[cyan ravine]

Idk what bitcoins ur hiding

[runic flare]

Lol

[cyan ravine]

For starters

I would do a fair bit of reading

It's going to be

REALLY complicated

Take the time to understand a little bit first

And we always use the bios

And test with good software

https://github.com/integralfx/MemTestHelper/blob/oc-guide/DDR4 OC Guide.md

This is a whole book

But covers a hell of a lot

Try and read as much as you can

Then jump into the #overclocking chat and with the help of a few of our guys you'll be slowly adjusting your way up to a good tune

[runic flare]

Appreciate it

[cyan ravine]

In cpu+ram limited situations just doing the ram can give a mega boost, and you don't even need to pick the extreme numbers

Just "Safe" as the guide puts it

is HUGE

So don't think you're missing much going safe

[cyan ravine]

All good mate, sadly this is the reality for one trick "Overclocking" services on the most part

Idk that fortnite dude but it already sounds like he did more harm than good

Take your time with this, on and off for a couple weeks, before you know it you'll be creeping up fps little by little

Rome wasn't built in a day as the saying goes

I gotta dip but feel free to drop more questions in chat, I'm not the only egghead here, just one of the good ones (Apparently lol)

[burnt stratus]

nah u suck

get out

sound:500085440221806603:1099577216536412231

[gentle pollen]

Be prepared, this can take a about 1-2 weeks to get initial clocks stable on the surface and a few more weeks to make sure everything is truly stable.

[cyan ravine]

It'll take a long time to learn but if you know what you're doing you can pump out something pretty simple in a couple days tbh

The closer to the edge of stability you go, the exponential increase in stability testing really needed cos you find things are a lot more sensitive and annoying

[manic cloak]

https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/p/accessories-and-software/monitors/home/67c2gcc1us

Is this any good for a secondary monitor?

also would this (https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/p/accessories-and-software/monitors/gaming/67c5gac1us) of been better than this? https://computers.woot.com/offers/msi-27-qhd-gaming-monitor-g274qpf-6?ref=w_cnt_lnd_cat_pc_4_12

[manic cloak]

just realized it'd be 110$ but i'm keeping my eye out on it

Just wish that other lenovo was on sale

[thorn mural]

Is it worth jumping to z690/z790 for a 12600kf

or will h/b series be fine

[honest knot]

That's if you want features like overclocking

If you can find a z board cheaper than h/b then it wouldn't hurt to get

[mossy venture]

Id much rather a 13600k/kf on a b660 than a 12600k on a z690

[thorn mural]

Amazon's own seller price is marked up so high for the 13600k 😭

[thorn mural]

14400f or 12700kf?

They're about the same price on amazon

I heard about some problems with the newer gen intel chips but im not really sure what that was about

[mossy venture]

Either they're both only a tiny bit better than the 12600kf

Youre the person who's friend is just upgrading cpu/mobo right?

[thorn mural]

Yeah, on ddr4

We're looking at this board: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0BQWR37J4

[mossy venture]

What about the 14600k/kf?

$100 is great for that

[thorn mural]

Think that might be a bit too far out of their price range

[mossy venture]

I meant neither*

Not either

Id stick to the 12600kf or way to upgrade to ddr5 personally

[thorn mural]

I think we'll rock with the 12600kf then, value seems pretty good

[mossy venture]

14400f and 13400f are just a 12600kf with no overclocking, lower wattage and a stock cooler

[thorn mural]

😂 Alright then

Thanks for the help again

[mossy venture]

Np

[rustic terrace]

yo brodie so i was picking out the parts cause im buying tonight or tomm

Isint the swift better and it’s only 4 buck diff rn

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XQKVGJ

this the link u told me btw

jus in case u forget pls

[weary galleon]

The mp44Q is better than the L

[rustic terrace]

Ummm ok ok

got u

[weary galleon]

Not sure why "swift" and "superb" are there but you can see that "superb" refers to the mp44Q

[rustic terrace]

Yeah yeah i see

yall r the experts i rlly couldent know much

[weary galleon]

Amazon is weird sometimes

[rustic terrace]

Yeah idk 😭🙏🏽

I jus thought i had a steal

😭😭

[covert vapor]

On a scale of Swift to Superb how would you rate yourself

[rustic terrace]

swift

Not superb 😔

[covert vapor]

I would say I'm Super, which is just a little bit less than Superb

[mossy venture]

The q is a bit better

Oh alr answered

[rustic terrace]

Yeah it’s thanks tho

[mossy venture]

Oh the psu price went up

Either
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/hCGbt6/thermaltake-toughpower-gf3-tt-premium-750-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ps-tpd-0750fnfagu-4

Or
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/X33NnQ/adata-xpg-kyber-850-w-80-gold-certified-atx-power-supply-kyber850g-bkcus

[rustic terrace]

Which is better?

[mossy venture]

Upgradability wise the 850w will give you more headroom later, quality wise theyre abt the same

[rustic terrace]

got u bet

thanks

[mossy venture]

Np

[shut rampart]

my liquid cooler has fabric tube and I accidentally put thermal past on it is there anyway I can remove it... its white tubes with a spot of gray

[dusky hearth]

maybe with some ipa? though that might damage the tubes since it's a solvent

[shut rampart]

Oh

So only way is to get a new one

What’s the difference between asrock b850 vs x870 steel lengend

[dusky hearth]

the io

that's ususally the difference between chipsets

[shut rampart]

It’s a $50 difference the only thing I saw was usb4 points better WiFi

[dusky hearth]

yeah you get pretty much all the features you would need on the b chipsets

[mossy venture]

How much are they?

Is it the b850m pro rs?

[shut rampart]

270 for x870

[mossy venture]

Jesus

[shut rampart]

Asrock B850 Steel Legend WiFi Motherboard

[mossy venture]

Hard pass from me

[shut rampart]

210 for b850

[mossy venture]

Oh you want white and ATX right?

[shut rampart]

Yeah

[mossy venture]

I'd stick to the steel legend

[shut rampart]

Both are

[mossy venture]

I don't see any better choices

Oh lol

The b850

There's this, but black pcb
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/HkTFf7/asrock-b850-pro-rs-atx-am5-motherboard-b850-pro-rs

Oh
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/4jKscf/msi-x670e-gaming-plus-wifi-atx-am5-motherboard-x670e-gaming-plus-wifi

Could go for any of them, you really won't feel a difference

[mossy venture]

This does give you pcie 5.0 and another nvme slot ig

[shut rampart]

yeah but Im deciding on fully white or just keep on old mobo

which is the ASRock B650M Pro RS WiFi Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard

will there be any difference if I buy the 210 b850 mobo?

[mossy venture]

Performance wise no

Feature wise, couple extra ports, better ram tuning, other than that not much comes to mind

I still recc the b650m pro rs for 9800x3d/7800x3d whenever possible, it's a nice mobo

[shut rampart]

alright I will stick with the b650m, since there isn't no performance differnce + it would be a hassile to remove everything and replace it back

[proper night]

The red LED, the HDD light I think, is blinking incessantly and I am not sure why.

[weary galleon]

Most cases that's just an activity/usage indicator

So if the drive is reading/writing it'll blink

[proper night]

It does that at idle on desktop

[weary galleon]

mine does too

[dusky hearth]

Just because it's "idle" doesn't mean it's not doing anything

[rustic terrace]

yo brodie can u give me a prebuilt that’s 1k or maybe a lil over

Cause the person that was gone build the other might not be able too

I just wanna compare and see how much i coulda saved or how much more performance i coulda gotten

U always prefer building your own right?

[mossy venture]

If you'd follow a yt tutorial it isn't too difficult but I can take a look

Yeah you lose value going pre built

Around 1.1-1.2k is where pre builts get decent value, aside from refurbished options

[little osprey]

does anybody have a pc suggestion

[rustic terrace]

Umm ok ok dam

aii

[mossy venture]

I'm really not finding anything that's solid value
https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16883360528?Item=N82E16883360528

[rustic terrace]

yeah nah i might jus pay someone to build it for me

[mossy venture]

This is refurb, better cpu and gpu but you'll need to swap ram, and you will not have much of an upgrade path
https://www.ebay.com/itm/156428651204?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=92chrSivS8C&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=r8em-zv_qyc&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

[rustic terrace]

Wouldent that be better they charge what 50 maybe

[mossy venture]

Oh alr

[rustic terrace]

Yeah also brodie

[mossy venture]

$50-150

[rustic terrace]

i’m selling this to a guy for 400

My old pc

is that solid?

[mossy venture]

400 is great

For you anyways lmao

Cpu-60
Ram-20
Ssd-10 if that
Case- 10-20
Mobo-40-40
Psu-30 or so
Gpu- 125-150 id guess

[rustic terrace]

W

😝😝😝

I thought it was ass for my side he was gone buy it for 475 but i lowered cause i jus wanna get rid of it but im still winning 🙏🏽❤️

amen

[mossy venture]

Yeah you def got the better end of the deal

[rustic terrace]

Betty he just being mad sus tho ngl

[mossy venture]

500 gets you a 12400f/5700xt or 3060 set up

[rustic terrace]

asking what type of wifi i got n shi

[mossy venture]

Hes prolly just not very knowledgeable with pcs

[rustic terrace]

Yeah he sus tho

[mossy venture]

What site you selling it on?