building-and-recc-chat

[cyan ravine]

Saw one just the other day on a KP vbios, melted the cables to the sockets lol

[topaz rose]

My other friend Daisy chained his 2080ti 😭😭

Then he waterlooped it

[cyan ravine]

Daisy chain is fine if you don't use a stupid vbios and a good psu lol

May PSUs don't have good awg daisies

But some do

RMx always comes to mind, 16 awg cables, 16 or 18 awg daisies which is more than enough

[topaz rose]

@cyan ravine he has 850w psu, idk which one yet

[cyan ravine]

Well knowing the exact model will tell us everything

[nimble thorn]

Question just finished my first build and was wondering if its normal for a red light to turn on when booting up? It only does it briefly once fully on it turns off. Is this normal?

[mossy venture]

yeah thats normal

[topaz rose]

got the psu

this but 850w @cyan ravine

[mossy venture]

fantastic psu

among the best

[topaz rose]

bro has a better psu than me

😢

[cyan ravine]

What bacca said

G6 is amongst the best lol

[topaz rose]

best psu

is is it 3080 ready

[potent portal]

I'd consider it 4090 ready, with the adapter

5090 even

[cyan ravine]

5090 yeah with the right CPU lol

[potent portal]

As long as it's not an unpatched 14900K or something pulling 350W yeah

[cyan ravine]

I'm betting that the new card has higher transients due to the 25% odd more cudas

[topaz rose]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/zF4Zxr/msi-mag-a850gl-pcie5-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-mag-a850gl-pcie5 rate my psu

[cyan ravine]

8.5/10

[topaz rose]

peak

is it 3080 ready

[cyan ravine]

Yeah that'll do one

Cpu limit of like, either a stupidly unlocked 13th/14th i9 and a threadripper lol

[potent portal]

MSI supposedly has one of the best 12VHPWR cables too. Lower rates of failure than average.

[cyan ravine]

Yeah you wanna know why

The genius of the cable

[topaz rose]

o word

iv been keeping my 12vhpwr cable just incase

5070 ready!

[cyan ravine]

@potent portal https://youtu.be/O9uHI0EAK8s

It was so genius that Jon and Corsair adopted it in white

[potent portal]

Oh yeah the colored tips

[cyan ravine]

They show you that you're an idiot by highlighting how much they're inserted

Yes

Yessss

[potent portal]

If you can see color it's not in

[topaz rose]

the yellow is so peak

[cyan ravine]

It was ingenious

[topaz rose]

if u see yellow that means its not in

[cyan ravine]

This is one of the big reasons I just slap agl on almost any pc lmao

It's RMe tier and the genius cable idea carries over

This came out like, a year and a half ago?

I was immediately on that the moment I saw it like 😂😂

"It's idiot proof! Brilliant!"

[topaz rose]

sometimes i wished i went for corsair because its slightly quieter

but i put my iems in and i dont hear it anymore

[cyan ravine]

The agl is fine

Rme is actually quite noisy

That's the main part of why it's so cheap

But the 2025 corsair models should be corsairs return to form

You get highlighted 12vhpwr like msi, but also sleeved cables stock

[topaz rose]

i love my cable extentions

[cyan ravine]

On top of already good units we should be no longer needing extensions

They don't use like polyester sleeve tho

It's like some rubbery plastic iirc

Still looks nice

[topaz rose]

o yeah the 12vhpwr cable looks nice

u wont be replacing it with extedntions cause it just looks so good

[cyan ravine]

Corsair was overdue, they've been sitting on their laurels for years

Being a better quality package is a plus for me

[topaz rose]

noctua psu whewn thats silent

[cyan ravine]

@potent portal did you see the new 4000D

It's actually good

[topaz rose]

i wanna see it

[cyan ravine]

Seasonic basically

Lol

[topaz rose]

lol

a psu that donst kick on until 60% load

that would be fire

[cyan ravine]

https://youtu.be/cy_EdDkzKbE

Case and psus in here

Very good year it looks like for Corsair

Well overdue

[topaz rose]

oooo

how muc h is that case

[cyan ravine]

Esp. after the garbage that were the dual chamber cases

[cyan ravine]

99

[mossy venture]

now if only they adress their ram/aios

[topaz rose]

holy

[cyan ravine]

I wish ☠️☠️☠️

[topaz rose]

i might buy that for another build...

[mossy venture]

i dont

then corsair shills will have an actual reason to shill

[topaz rose]

that case is sexy

[cyan ravine]

TRUE

[topaz rose]

idk what so good about their ram...

[cyan ravine]

Nothing

[mossy venture]

their ram sucks ass

[topaz rose]

it looks cool thats it

[mossy venture]

most prominent failure of any ddr4 brand

[cyan ravine]

Their ram is bottom tier for anything but an icue shill

Even the good models with dominator heatsinks being genuinely useful, they're overpriced and the PCBs often suck ass underneath

They're also the only brand to execute basically like an intel z board type tier moment for ddr5

Locking the pmics down in certain models so you can't overclock even if you want to

1.435v voltage cap baby

Let's go

[flint sapphire]

Nah bro trust my dominators 2666 cl20 are running great

[tawdry lance]

I have a RM1000x (2021) PSU and it only has 3 PCIE cables, so if I was to get a 5090 would I have to get a 12V-2x6 cable?

[potent portal]

We don't know yet

But I know the daisy chains are ok to use on the RMx series so you're probably good there

Corsair cables are built like tanks

[tawdry lance]

Daisy chaining is in reference to that PCIE cable side seperates into two ends? or what does daisy chaining mean?

[potent portal]

Yes the cables that split off

So your 3 cables have 6 ends that you can use

[severe dove]

I have 7800x3d with phantom spirit 120 evo on it. On all games I get around 65-79ish temp depending on the game. Except for Marvel Rivals which instantly hits the max temp 87C all the time. Does anyone know the reason and if there is a fix to this issue?

[plucky timber]

Is it 87c maximum at all times?

That's not that hot

[potent portal]

The reason is because AMD 7000 series runs hot by nature, and having the cores located under a thick stack of cache insulates the heat even more

The fix is to upgrade to a 9800X3D, which switches the cache and core around so the cores are easier to cool

[plucky timber]

It's not throttling is it?

[potent portal]

For the record 87 is perfectly acceptable, within spec, and does not hurt your performance at all

[plucky timber]

Seems ok

How's the airflow?

[mossy venture]

like fal said the 7800x3d just runs hot, you could try remounting your cooler putting new paste, or maybe trying a new/better paste but it'll likely be small differences

[severe dove]

I figured it out. Everything fixed when I disabled Discord Game Overlay feature

Now it is stable 76c

[potent portal]

Overlays, yeah that happens when you have more than one running

Discord, Steam, AMD, they all want to run

[manic cloak]

Atm is x870 boards better than the b850?

or is it always b850's > x870's

[potent portal]

Depends on specific models, but I can say for sure that most people don't need the extras from X870

And there's B650 boards that have more features than cheaper X870 ones

[manic cloak]

For that little giveaway nivida is having with r/buildapc

I just wanted to submit something and get a little learning experience out of it cause why not

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GDJrGJ

cause I planned on submitting a mess like this

[analog hearth]

@earnest olive potential memory issue? I have this weird issue that I'll notice. Sometimes I'll work from home, so I'll leave my computer on all day for when I need to access it for work. Sometimes I'll turn it on in the morning and not have to use it all day, so I don't use it until the afternoon or evening. This is when I notice that I get some slight OS instability. I presume Windows just isn't clearing the RAM as properly is it should? (I haven't done too much experimenting)

But I was wondering what you think could cause this, as I’m thinking it's either bad memory settings in the BIOS or potentially my Windows install not clearing the RAM

(Basically, my theory is that Windows is accumulating some small data throughout the day and it's causing some sluggishness in my PC by the end of the day. Idk though)

I’m usually restarting my PC at the end of the day just to use it without any instability

[tough beacon]

Does anyone know how to boot into windows with a AIO Cooler on ASUS TUF Motherboard?

Won't let me boot because of CPU Fan error on the American Megatrends.

[cyan ravine]

Plug any fan or aio into the cpu fan header on the top right of the motherboard

You can also disable the popup but that's more complicated

There's no other way to fix this

[analog hearth]

@cyan ravine thoughts on my issue? idk whether it's a Windows thing or if my memory is crapping out (something else?) It's basically the same G.Skill memory that comes in the Micro Center bundles if that helps

Google doesn't help

[analog hearth]

Man nobody can fix my issue I guess lol

[cyan ravine]

Idk what you mean by instability

There's like 2 words in that story that explain the meat and guts of the problem lol

[analog hearth]

Remember the desktop stuttering issues I was having a month or two ago?

[cyan ravine]

I don't

Lol

[analog hearth]

f

[cyan ravine]

I help a dozen people a day I forget pretty quickly sometimes

[analog hearth]

understandable

There's a few things I wanna try anyways. I might just go through with that

[cyan ravine]

Alr

[analog hearth]

Starting with a new SSD (I've had this current SSD for years and it's only a PCIe gen 3. I kinda want more storage so I'll probably just get a PCIe gen 4 2TB)

Take full advantage of this motherboard

That'll be a full Windows reinstall for me atp. So if that doesn't fix it, RAM is probably the issue

And that should pretty much fix my issues once and for all. If not? it's gotta be either the CPU or motherboard or I'm just an idiot and Ryzen just works like this

[cyan ravine]

Do you use extensions

[analog hearth]

Like in Firefox? Yes but not that many

The only extensions I use

[cyan ravine]

Psu xD

[analog hearth]

Bruh don't tell me that 💀

[cyan ravine]

?

[analog hearth]

Oh you're serious

Why would it be the PSU though?

[cyan ravine]

Yes it was a genuine question

Hahaha

[analog hearth]

oh 💀

[cyan ravine]

Too much vdroop

[analog hearth]

Corsair TX850m

[cyan ravine]

Extension yes no

[analog hearth]

And I've had it across like three motherboards now

ohhh that's wym

no extensions

[cyan ravine]

Ah

[analog hearth]

bruh

[cyan ravine]

Have you tried swapping the cpu cables

[analog hearth]

I don't have anymore CPU cables

[cyan ravine]

Ok then swap the existing ones around

[analog hearth]

I (sort of) recently got an NZXT C1000 (before they turned evil btw) that I have yet to swap in though. Would it be worth trying that?

[cyan ravine]

You're gonna think this is stupid but it's a thing

Ram does this too

[analog hearth]

interesting

I'm not at home atm but I'll try when I get home

[cyan ravine]

Alr

[analog hearth]

Might just swap the whole PSU tbh

I have a C1000 that's sitting in a system that doesn't need it (system isn't functional either)

[cyan ravine]

I c

1000

[analog hearth]

At least it has a 12VHPWR, unlike my TX850m

yeah

[analog hearth]

The most probable issue: the ADATA XPG SX8200 that I've been using for years

Garbage SSD and I've been using it as my C drive for a few years. It's just time to upgrade and ditch that thing

[scenic forge]

resources for familiarizing mysslf with components that are compatible?

[analog hearth]

pcpartpicker

[cyan ravine]

pcpartpicker

[mossy venture]

Pcpartpicker

[weary galleon]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/

[crimson zinc]

https://pcpartpicker.com/

[plucky timber]

https://pcpartpicker.com/

[potent portal]

I think we got the idea guys

[mossy venture]

sad pcpartpicker noises

[versed current]

@cyan ravine everything is here but the cpu cooler I’m building on Sunday!

[cyan ravine]

Nice

[umbral jetty]

can anyone give me some tips, im building my pc i power it on but the case fans wont come on i have a b650 riptide mobo and a bitfenix noba mesh case

[plucky timber]

Perhaps the motherboard don't turn them on until a certain threshold

[dusky hearth]

Is the PC working normally though

[umbral jetty]

i havent gotten to far yet it boots to bios let me put the gpu in and see if i can set fan speed therr

[dusky hearth]

You don't have to worry about fans not running, since the heatsinks and such can absorb a fair bit of heat

I recommend using fan control rather than setting fan speeds in bios

https://github.com/Rem0o/FanControl.Releases

[umbral jetty]

yeah i have a thermalright assassin for the cpu fans but this was my first time building a pc so im puzzled on why they wouldnt turn on

[full atlas]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6mVxfd

thoughts on this sff build? I need something for college that isn’t big and heavy like my main PC, all I would use for is photo editing, schoolwork, and light gaming (all esports titles so easy to run)

Anything marked $0 I got for free from random computers over time.

[plucky timber]

Does the cpu fan turn on?

[plucky timber]

What about a laptop?

[umbral jetty]

yes the cpu fans power on but not the case fans

[plucky timber]

You can get used 8th gen laptops for stupid cheap

Also I wouldn't use the corsair vengeance LPX even if it was free

They're notorious for being DOA

And the ones that work are extremely mediocre

[full atlas]

I’ll look into it thanks

[full atlas]

These ones specifically are unstable at xmp speeds😭

Which is why they were free

[plucky timber]

At least you didn't pay money for it

On the bright side DDR4 is relatively cheap these days

The R9 285 wouldn't get driver support these days

I wonder if an apu could outperform it

[plucky timber]

But yeah for college/uni I'd have something portable

A lot of these 8th gen laptops are enteprise dumps so you can find them for reasonable prices

[full atlas]

I’ll see what I can find for sure, my current laptop is really bad

Thank you

[plucky timber]

What kind of games do you run on them?

[full atlas]

Just like valorant, Fortnite, rocket league, and stuff that’s easy to run like that

[plucky timber]

hmm

Damn

Probably not used laptops then

Yeah actually I'd just go with your list and use your current laptop for work

What are the specs if you don't mind me asking?

gaming laptops back then were pretty meh for general use

[full atlas]

It’s just an old chomebook so it really doesn’t do anything more than taking notes and some web browsing

[plucky timber]

ah

I suppose that'd be fine for a bit

Given your budget that pcpp list is pretty decent

It'd struggle with newer titles but esports titles shouldn't be too annoying

[full atlas]

I’ve used that gpu a few different times between ones I’ve had in my actual computer and it ran what I wanted fine and the legacy drivers seemed decent luckily, my computer is just a little big for college and I don’t really want to take it apart either.

[plucky timber]

Honestly this might be the best you could do for the budget

So it's perfectly fine given what you're working with

I used to game on a Q9400 and a HD7850 back in 2018

[full atlas]

The worst I’ve ever gamed on was a 7750 as a child and then again recently but it was temporary and paired with a modern cpu which helped

[plucky timber]

Yeah the biggest issues with the list is mostly just driver issues with the radeon but esports titles shouldn't put up too much of a fuss

[full atlas]

The only things I’m really considering changing are maybe getting more storage and possibly a different cpu if I can get something better locally. I would toss a better gpu in if I did find an amazing deal on something like a 1660 super/ti.

And I will fit fans in as needed, and maybe just steal the ram from my computer if I do have any issues

[plucky timber]

Yeah the ram is the biggest red flag atm

That's probably my #1 on the future upgrade list

[full atlas]

I’ve got really good ram In my computer so I could just use that I just wouldn’t want to take anything more besides my gpu but my gpu is definitely too big

[plucky timber]

Size?

I could fit a HD7850 inside a jonsbo C6

This one specifically

Small card

[full atlas]

Yeah the card in my computer is 318mm so it’s way too big, the card I’m hoping to put in is technically too long but I think I can make it fit

[vale epoch]

You guys have any large mousepad recs that are hard like a board?

My desk has this sort of uneven concave space on the right side which makes it tough to use a regular soft pad

https://tenor.com/view/stressed-out-gif-21999038

[vale epoch]

https://tenor.com/view/why-why-tho-why-though-seriously-are-you-serious-gif-17924600015077769170

[odd venture]

at this point just fill the concave with epoxy, sand it, slap a vinyl over it or buy a new desk

[vale epoch]

Yeah i’m thinking epoxy too

[elder plume]

my pc freezes when i’m playing then says your pc ran into a problem :/, crashes, then goes into bios

anyone know why or how to fix it

[potent portal]

What's the error message on the blue screen?

[hardy remnant]

you were correct lmao

I didn't have any issues stress testing at all, stability tests ran fine but since a week ago it keeps crashing on me again and again in very weird ways

explorer freezes, some Adobe software freezes when closing or opening or launching a resource intensive game crashes it too

Malwarebytes scan crashes it too

The most recent event ID's that pop up for me are ID 10016 and 263 (my mouse has been consistently bugging out / jittering through the screen), during Malwarebytes Scans I get the error message

"The instruction at 0x00007FFBE791FE70 referenced memory at 0x00007FFBB8DB4B88. The required data was not placed into memory because of an I/O error status of Oxc000000e."

I ran checkdisk, disabled fast startup, took almost everything i could out of auto start, looked for corrupted windows files, disabled the icpu, but no idea.

If anyone has an idea what to check, please let me know.

[jagged ember]

Maybe the ram itself is still dying indeed

[hardy remnant]

i really hope it's not

I thought it was a driver or windows issue because of the repeated mouse stutters and 263 event

[cyan ravine]

Hmmm

Not 100% sure but maybe it's still something plugged into the motherboard

[hardy remnant]

internal you mean? or usb?

[stoic island]

Could be one of the USB devices

[manic cloak]

Bent cpu pin possibly? It’s a very wide assumption considering it’s a new board and cpu, plus you’d have to bend a pretty certain amount of pins

[severe dove]

I'm working on my other setup, 2080 super ryzen 9 3900X. It says in the task manager base clock is 4.00 Ghz and the advertised speed is 4.6 Ghz. How do I make it 4.6 Ghz? ASUS VIII HERO Motherboard. Any help is greatly appreciated.

[rustic terrace]

Yo this my build from about 3 years go what should i upgrade i got like 500-1000 for a budget but rather not spend as much what should i upgrade(also can i get some budget mouse and keyboards along wit it please)

[vague oracle]

Frankly? Just build a new computer for that budget, someone here can help you put a parts list together

[rustic terrace]

Rlly and sell this old one?

That would be more affordable?

[vague oracle]

Yeah, basically every part in that is terrible

[rustic terrace]

How much should i range to get off this build then

like from minimum to maximum money

[vague oracle]

Uhhh

I ain't the most sure on prices for the used market but I'm sure someone else can chime in

[mossy citrus]

Youll get like $500 tops

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fh4K74

1k id do this

[rustic terrace]

and what the minimum i should do on it ?

[rustic terrace]

and this is the best i can get for 1k?

[mossy citrus]

yeah

[mossy citrus]

what

[rustic terrace]

my pc like whats the minimum i should sell it for

like a range yk

?-500 max

[mossy citrus]

$450-500

[rustic terrace]

oh aii bet bet

[rustic terrace]

bet thanks can u add me jus in case i got more questions imma start selling it rn

If not it’s okay

[rustic terrace]

also thanks for this imma get this one and imma pay someone to build it cause im lazy 😭😭😭

[rustic terrace]

yo bro also what mouse u recommend for like 50-100 or less range

[mossy citrus]

Incott g23/g24 just pick whichever shape you like

g23 is like a g pro shape and g24 is like a deathadder/model d

[elder plume]

“your pc ran into a problem :/“

[mossy venture]

no

hell no

the 8400f is horrid

[mossy venture]

pls no

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QLPtC8

it's like a 30% difference in games

if not more

the 7500f off aliexpress for $130 is the only cheaper option for am5 that makes sense

[rustic terrace]

So this one better

[mossy venture]

the 7600 is far better than the 8400f in games, and the b650m gaming wifi from gigabyte is one of the worst b650s

[rustic terrace]

Bet imma get this then

[mossy venture]

this one has less storage, but a good bit better cpu performance and a better motherboard

its also slightly cheaper

[rustic terrace]

storage is wtv i dont plays lot of games performance is what matters to me

[mossy venture]

and you can always add storage

[rustic terrace]

Yeah

[mossy venture]

100%

[dusky hearth]

there ususally is a smaller error code near the bottom ish

[rustic terrace]

it got a tb of storage tho 😭

[mossy venture]

yeah lmao

[rustic terrace]

Also btw

which mouse should i get 50-100

[mossy venture]

games take up a lot of storage, especially if you get into modding

ive got 320gb on block ops 3

[rustic terrace]

type budget

[mossy venture]

there's a lot of good options and I'm not super knowledgable with mice. infinity is more knowledgable than me for that

[rustic terrace]

Holyyyy i jus play r6, rust and gta rp😭🙏🏽

[mossy venture]

i really need to delete some of it i dont play it much anymore

2tb is normally plenty for most people

[rustic terrace]

Yeah bet thanks then so much

[rustic terrace]

bet bet

[rustic terrace]

so there’s no diff except the shape of it then?

[rustic terrace]

yo also how much more up would my budget need to go for more performance or i should be good wit this

[elder plume]

it says it for a split second then restarts the computer

[mossy citrus]

was not aware

[dusky hearth]

hmm, in that case, download whocrashed

[mossy citrus]

yeah same internals

[rustic terrace]

thanks

[elder plume]

okay

[dusky hearth]

https://www.resplendence.com/download/whocrashedSetup.exe here's the direct link

[elder plume]

thanks 🙏

[mossy venture]

The only thing I'd spend more on is gpu, and that's a personal thing

The 7700xt is still capable

[mossy venture]

Yeah all of 8000 series has cut down cache

[mossy citrus]

wtf

[mossy venture]

It's the same as any apu series

4500 had cut down cache

It sucks but it's normal

[rain bloom]

CPU is running way hotter than expected (above 50C idle and hit 90C while downloading games). Is there anything wrong physically based on this picture?

[plucky timber]

what case?

[rain bloom]

Montech XR

[plucky timber]

I assume you have intake fans then

what cpu?

[rain bloom]

7600

Three case fans plus cpu, GPU, and psu fans

[plucky timber]

that's strange

shouldn't be that hot while just downloading stuff

[rain bloom]

It looks like the thermal paste spread appropriately? Should I just try reinstalling the fan and see if it happens again?

[plucky timber]

could be something wrong with the sensors

I'd try getting more data ye

use hwinfo64

[rain bloom]

Assuming that’s a command? What am I looking for?

[plucky timber]

https://www.hwinfo.com/download/

[rain bloom]

What am I looking for on this software?

[plucky timber]

temperatures

[rain bloom]

I can't find anything about temperatures, mostly just how fast it's working

According to my AMD app we're at 56C while I'm talking to you and troubleshooting, which sounds way too hot?

[plucky timber]

that's fine

ryzen idles high

what I'm worried about is it somehow reaching 90c with low loads

[plucky timber]

click sensors

[weary galleon]

tbf depending on what's being downloaded it could also be unpacking/installing which can be cpu heavy. though 90c does seem a bit high

[rain bloom]

Ah there it is. Should I run a game or something and see how hot it gets? Is it safe to put the glass back on the case?

[rain bloom]

Street Fighter 6, Tekken 8, and Guilty Gear Strive if that matters?

[weary galleon]

game downloads are typically compressed yeah

[rain bloom]

Surely this isn't true?

[weary galleon]

35C ambient is 95F lol

[rain bloom]

Oh that's a hot room

[plucky timber]

95C load yes

[weary galleon]

really hot room

[rain bloom]

I'm in a basement it's cold lol

[plucky timber]

but it's strange that it's reaching to 95C in those loads

I'd say run a game

[plucky timber]

absolutely

that way you get the most accurate readings

keep hwinfo in the background

it should record the temps

if it doesn't throttle while at gaming loads it should be fine

[dusky hearth]

tiny cooler

[rain bloom]

So I ran through some tutorials on marvel rivals and it looks like I capped at 96C. I know Ryzens run hot but is that excessive?

GPU did not go above 55C

[stoic island]

on stock cooler? sounds normal and it's throttling

[rain bloom]

What does throttling mean in this context? Would I notice it in performance?

Also getting that hot is bad for the CPU right?

[plucky timber]

to oversimplify, throttling is when a cpu limits performance to prevent overheating

96c is normal on a stock cooler

But it's not ideal

It might be a good idea to get a new cooler

[rain carbon]

Stock cooler=subpar cooling for 99% of processors

[plucky timber]

stock coolers are... fine

it really just depends on the use case

[rain carbon]

Theyre usable technically

[plucky timber]

yeah technically they're fine

they are designed to cool the cpus they come with

but I wouldn't recommend using one

especially on higher sustained loads

such as gaming

[rain carbon]

For 20-30 bucks theres no reason to stay with stock coolers imo unless youre saving up a bit

[plucky timber]

There's a couple of coolers that I will recommend here:
Fine for current cpu:
ID-COOLING SE-214-XT -$16.98
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Zr8bt6/id-cooling-se-214-xt-argb-682-cfm-cpu-cooler-se-214-xt-argb
Thermalright Assassin X 120 - $17.89
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/q6H7YJ/thermalright-assassin-x-120-refined-se-6617-cfm-cpu-cooler-ax120-se-d3

Premium options (if you want to upgrade in the future):
Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE - $34.90
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/hYxRsY/thermalright-peerless-assassin-120-se-6617-cfm-cpu-cooler-pa120-se-d3
Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE - $35.90
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/GpbRsY/thermalright-phantom-spirit-120-se-6617-cfm-cpu-cooler-ps120se

not sure if the phantom spirit is really better but for $1 more for the peerless assassin you might as well

[mossy venture]

Theres also the id cooler a620 at $30

Just as good as the phantom spirit

Any of these are more than fine tho

[rain bloom]

Thank you! I realized I was probably overreacting but I just wanted to make sure since I spent a fair amount of money on this build

[mossy venture]

Understandable

[winged hazel]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/7s88TW/msi-ventus-2x-black-oc-geforce-rtx-4060-8-gb-video-card-rtx-4060-ventus-2x-black-8g-oc wroth?

419 cad

[weary galleon]

4060 is really mid

bad, even

[winged hazel]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/pD8bt6/msi-geforce-rtx-3060-ventus-2x-12g-geforce-rtx-3060-12gb-12-gb-video-card-rtx3060ventus2x12goc

what about this

[weary galleon]

pretty similar to a 4060

idk the canadian market but for that price range maybe 7600xt?

or a used card

[mossy venture]

6700xt/6750xt would be ideal

[plucky timber]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/sMymLc

@winged hazel

[mossy venture]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/XcymLc

oh wait

i didnt see you did 7700xt

idk why i thought you used 7600

mb

[plucky timber]

oh I edited the message

[mossy venture]

ohh

[plucky timber]

my clipboard was being funny as always

it pasted the wrong link

[mossy venture]

lmao thats funny

[winged hazel]

thanks

[plucky timber]

I wonder tho

[winged hazel]

🙏

[plucky timber]

if we could squeeze a 7800XT in here

[mossy venture]

7700xt/7800xt are good choices as well

the better the gpu the more fps/better settings

[plucky timber]

need $30 savings

for 7800XT

might be doable

[plucky timber]

in your opinion, is a CX650 passable for a 7800XT?

[elder plume]

if i want to install this on my pc do i take off the paste and use the one on the motherboard or just install it with the paste

[mossy venture]

ill take a look, few min

in a game of val

[plucky timber]

alright

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/cxWn2x

here's the list for reference

[jagged ember]

You should probably stop touching the paste at all

But you install it with the paste if the heatsink doesn't have any

[elder plume]

the heatsink has some
too

[mossy venture]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/Wkz8Zc

[plucky timber]

I have several questions,
1: Where did the thermal pad come from?

2: Is the pad on your motherboard brand new?

3:Is there a heatsink on the motherboard?

[plucky timber]

@winged hazel take a look at this list, it'll get you the best gpu

[mossy venture]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/sysV3C/thermalright-burst-assassin-120-se-argb-6617-cfm-cpu-cooler-ba120-se-argb better coolers not a bad idea

[plucky timber]

there is certain the budget for it

$1479 damn that's pretty impressive

I never cease to be amazed

even squeezed in a better mobo

[elder plume]

the green paste is from my old laptop i just removed the ssd to try and put it in my pc.

the pad is brand new yes still has the plastic on its pad

it’s a aorus b650 elite ax ice i believe it does has a heatsink

[plucky timber]

I'd remove the paste from the ssd

[jagged ember]

Use the new paste yeah

[plucky timber]

and then use the board's heatsink and thermal pad instead

[jagged ember]

Remove the old one

[winged hazel]

ok

[plucky timber]

I like how we went from 7600 to 7800XT

[elder plume]

alright thanks

[rustic terrace]

Yo what’s a good budget keyboard ?

I alr got the mouse and the build imma buy

[rustic terrace]

yo what’s the diff

Or all the same shi

[analog hearth]

looking at the product and researching it a little helps

[mossy citrus]

One is 8l one is 1k polling rate

Just het the 1k

[jagged ember]

It kinda does say the difference on the listing

8k still stupid tho fr some games just freak out and skip inputs

[manic cloak]

Ngl I don’t really see a difference between the 8k and 1k polling

That’s just me though

Plus I play on high mouse sensitivity, low cursor sensitivity

[rustic terrace]

Bet thanks i jus have no idea when it comes to mouses thanks

[mossy citrus]

Cpus cant handle it

[potent portal]

Is it the CPU or just the USB standard

[weary galleon]

I mean 1k (1000hz) is already pretty high so that makes sense

I could see higher than 1k maybe being good for 360/480/560hz monitors

[mossy citrus]

usualy cpu from what i can tell

it also might just be usb standard not being rated for more than 1k stable

but ive seen cpu usage go crazy high on 8k polling

[crimson zinc]

G502 for that price >>>

[vague oracle]

Hell no

You like playing with a massive weight strapped to your hand?

[strong raft]

I miss when Viper Ultimate was sub-$60. I'd go back & get a spare or 2. (pro tip: just don't install synapse)

[potent portal]

I do actually. I use all the included weights with my G502. I have a habit from trackball days of lifting the mouse too often and this helps with that habit.

[vague oracle]

Thats fair, I had the issue where I was just getting bad wrist pains after using my G502 for hours every day

Switched to a G pro x superlight and all issues went away

[languid nimbus]

I do the same

You’re one of the only ones on here I’ve seen say that too

I always get crapped on for not wanting the featherweight holes-in-the-mouse ones

[dusky hearth]

i also use a weighted mouse, though i don't play comp fps

or any competitive game at all lmao

it just feels right to have a bit of weight to the mouse

[vague oracle]

The lightweight always throws me off slightly when getting a new mouse because I always used tk associate weight with quality

[manic cloak]

haha I got that deal, still using the mouse rn

and synapse isn't bad, just opening it is torture 😔

[strong raft]

Nice! Might not even have to login. I open it just to set dpi at 1st, then open once in a while to confirm battery is above 40% or whenever if I have a gaming tourney.

[manic cloak]

i'm basically autoclicking with synapse whenever I play minecraft cause it's got the double click feature (synapse mouse button thingy)

i'm kinda upset at razer for not giving us a wired cable though

like I had to pay 13$ for a wire cause my wireless stand wouldn't charge anymore

[weary galleon]

Synapse is a lot better for me ever since they did some sort of big update/overhaul

[manic cloak]

ya it's way less "superb" feeling

it's way more simple now

[plucky timber]

what the hell?

fstab doesn't mount my nfs share in a vm

but regular mount works

[winged hazel]

CPU - R7 5800x3d
GPU - Gigabyte 4070 ti Gaming OC
RAM - 32gb ddr4 Corsair Vengeance pro 3600mhz
STORAGE - 2tb WD Black SN850X and a WD Blue 1tb
PSU - Corsair 850x Shift 80+ Gold
MB - Gigabyte B550 Aorus Elite AX V2 AMD
CASE - Corsair 4000x RGB

how much should this pc go for used

[mossy venture]

at very most 1500, if youre selling

[plucky timber]

I assume you're buying

based on yesterday's conversations

if you are buying I'd strongly recommend replacing the ram

[mossy venture]

meh

if it works it works

[winged hazel]

if i where to buy it how much should i but it for

[plucky timber]

true

[winged hazel]

cad

[plucky timber]

if it's used

ehhh

[mossy venture]

how much is it listed at?

[potent portal]

If you could get it for about 2k CAD that would be a decent enough deal

[plucky timber]

from a price/performance perspective I wouldn't pay more then 1.8K cad for it

[winged hazel]

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/589045810522774

thats with perf but i dont need but a second monitor woould be nice

[mossy venture]

id say offer 1850

[potent portal]

To which he'll probably counter 2100

[mossy venture]

higher if youre worried he wont respond

[potent portal]

But you can probably get him below 2k easy enough

[plucky timber]

over 2K is really bad tbh

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/4JZfmC

[potent portal]

Including peripherals though

[plucky timber]

ah

what peripherals tho

[potent portal]

Mouse/keeb/monitor are included in price

Steel series aerox 3 mouse
Corsair K65 RGB Mini keyboard
Asus TUF Gaming 27” 1080p 165hz curved monitor

[plucky timber]

oh it's all overpriced crap

monitor might be decent

I'd say $1850 is reasonable then

[potent portal]

Easy enough to flip the periphs

[plucky timber]

true

the X3D is probably the main attraction here

[mossy venture]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/yp4nGJ

what i did

[plucky timber]

yeah that facebook marketplace listing is bloated as hell with overpriced crap

no X3D but better gpu

[potent portal]

Ye that would perform pretty similar and have an upgrade path, plus new parts/warranties

[plucky timber]

^

AM5 is worth not having X3D

it also costs less

one day we should go on facebook marketplace and just make fun of the trash value builds

actually imma do that in general right now

[frigid jackal]

friend's looking to buy a pc on marketplace
HP RTX 2060
I5 10700 8-core
32gb dd4
500gb m.2 1tb hhd
does this look kuel for five hundy

😝

i7

[mossy venture]

Ehh

For 500 you could do better

Especially considering it's an hp build

[frigid jackal]

looking into trying to get them building one

[mossy venture]

Could 100% do better especially with a used cpu and gpu

One sec

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hr8M3w

Could find a 1080, 1080 ti, 2060 super, 2070, 5700, 5700xt, or similar for the gpu

[analog egret]

I want to buy high spped , desktop for sqlserver 2022 with 2 remote desktop connectivity can you recommend desktop sepcs and server licence please. i am looking for 256 / 128 GB ram and 2 /4 TB hard disk

[dusky hearth]

i would use linux for this

[potent portal]

Yeah no need to pay for the server license for such a small time thing. Just use a Linux distro.

[potent portal]

What kind of budget do you have? Threadripper money or standard desktop money?

[opaque hearth]

I need help

my pc has window 11 pro

But apparently my I need window 11 home

Also I got a WiFi adapter it won’t connect to my phone WiFi but it would connect to hotspot on my phone

[mossy venture]

It doesnt make a difference

[mossy venture]

Gotta download drivers

[opaque hearth]

What the hell is drivers

[plucky timber]

https://tenor.com/view/wow-oh-really-gif-11713487

[opaque hearth]

Yes Ik I’m a dumb ass

It’s my first pc

Give me a break

[stuck kraken]

Per Ai overview, A computer driver is a software program that allows a computer's operating system to communicate with a piece of hardware. Drivers are essential for a computer to function properly.

[opaque hearth]

I’m a dumb ass

I’m back here already downloading it

[mossy venture]

Nice, I was abt to suggest a YouTube tutorial

Sorry i was cooking dinner

[opaque hearth]

What u making

U finna slide some ?

I’ll pay for the mail fee

[mossy venture]

Just chicken and rice but I gotchu

[opaque hearth]

Bet

Bruh

The fact I’m using my hotspot to download my drivers so I can use my home WiFi is crazy

[plucky timber]

They used to bundle cds with drivers

Considering the average retail pc does not come with optical drives

[opaque hearth]

Literally

[plucky timber]

They should at least bundle them in a flash drive

It's ridiculous

[opaque hearth]

Well

[plucky timber]

No drivers just to save what

[opaque hearth]

The dude who gaved me this pc

[plucky timber]

$1 per product

[opaque hearth]

Added a flash drive

I don’t wanna touch it or use it cs idk what he did with it

[plucky timber]

Imo it should come with the network adapter

[opaque hearth]

Well

I got the WiFi adapter

[plucky timber]

How do you download drivers without an internet connection?

Not retail?

[opaque hearth]

I got me a WiFi adapter it

[plucky timber]

?

[opaque hearth]

And it connects to my bum pile hotspot

Mobile

Lemme send a pic

[plucky timber]

what do you mean?

[opaque hearth]

Alright here

[plucky timber]

Did you buy it in retail new?

huh

[opaque hearth]

That’s what I brought

[plucky timber]

Those should be the kind that auto installs drivers

[opaque hearth]

nah

[plucky timber]

unless you use linux

[opaque hearth]

Well idk man

[plucky timber]

It is a cheapo so

[opaque hearth]

Idk the dude didn’t update it in 2018

Or sum sh

[plucky timber]

?

[pseudo pollen]

He didn't update it in 2018? That doesn't narrow it down

[plucky timber]

I have no idea what he said

[opaque hearth]

Well idk

idk mane

[dusky hearth]

key word "used to"
back when every pc had an optical drive
but for whatever a bunch of companies still just bundle a cd... which tbf is cheaper than a usb stick

[opaque hearth]

IDK man

Just know

Just know I’m doing all this extra stuff

[plucky timber]

Still it's kinda annoying how they don't bundle drivers with network devices especially

Surely a 1GB flash drive isn't expensive these days

Then again that'd probably double production cost considering how cheap some of these devices are to produce

[opaque hearth]

I got a 64G flash drive so?

[dusky hearth]

it is a fair bit of cost due to manufacturing
unless they package it as a bare pcb but i highly doubt they would do that

[opaque hearth]

-‘d

YES

[plucky timber]

?????????????

[opaque hearth]

2 drivers left to download

We lucky chat

It was 6 now it’s at 2

[pseudo pollen]

I'm sorry this brainrot language is unintelligible I have no idea what you're saying

[opaque hearth]

Bruh I hate texting properly

[dusky hearth]

also speaking of this, this is one of the use cases i use the beryl for; i can use it as a "hotspot" to give internet to the eth since that works without specific drivers 90% of the time, and then i can download all the drivers needed

it's also faster than a wifi hotspot

[opaque hearth]

Sorry, but I was at 6 Drivers Now I am at 2 drives to download, Do you understand this now, Sir?

Ugly ah

He gaved me a basilisk x hyper speed mouse is it good or nah ?

[plucky timber]

Can be powered off a power bank too

[dusky hearth]

indeed

[plucky timber]

Great addition to a network admin's toolkit

[dusky hearth]

though normally if you need to install drivers for a desktop you'll have power nearby

[plucky timber]

That openwrt one router looks like it's got more or less the same functionality

Powers off usb pd too

[opaque hearth]

Indeed

[plucky timber]

Honestly these open source routers are amazing

[dusky hearth]

yeah, slightly more features, but also a bit more expensive

technically the beryl isnt "open source" but it uses open source software yeah

[plucky timber]

Moving it to openwrt shouldn't be too much of a hassle right?

At least relative to other routers

Where you have to deal with tftp shenanigans

[dusky hearth]

it already is openwrt; the default skin is just a custom one, but you can still access the default openwrt skin, or hell, just the terminal

i believe you are able to put the image of the "vanilla" openwrt with no gl-inet skin though without any issue

[plucky timber]

I don't mind the gl-inet skin

More if it's going to get driver support in the future

[dusky hearth]

don't quote me on this but iirc flashing openwrt onto the router doesnt void the warranty for this, unlike most other routers

[plucky timber]

I'm not too fussed about that

When I do need to flash vanilla openwrt (no more official gl-inet updates) the beryl will probably be older than the warranty anyways

Still pretty nice if they would allow it

[plucky timber]

@white temple do you already have the 2400g? Would you consider using a compact matx case instead?

[white temple]

@plucky timber
So I have a random cpu (2400g) that I wanna use for a project. The project being either to make a Mini PC that I can carry around with me for the purpose of party games, or to put into a case of a Xbox 360

Yes I already have it

[plucky timber]

case?

[white temple]

I haven't thought that far

[plucky timber]

Compact matx will be a lot more cost effective

With ITX you're spending a lot on psu, case and motherboard

[white temple]

I want it to be small.

[plucky timber]

This is a matx case

[white temple]

Looks cool

[plucky timber]

They're really not that big

[white temple]

Is there a smaller one

[white temple]

There we go

[plucky timber]

Most itx cases aren't much smaller than these two cases

You're really not gaining much by going itx

[white temple]

Hmmm

[plucky timber]

You spend way more money for diminishing returns

[white temple]

I see. So itx is a no go

[plucky timber]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/MM7scf/jonsbo-jonsplus-z20-microatx-desktop-case-z20-black

~$100

• you can find used b450 boards for a relatively good price

[plucky timber]

It all comes down to case design

A well designed MATX case can be really compact

And besides

Even with ITX they have to take into account cooler clearances, gpus, etc

That makes these MATX cases better a lot of times

Since you get around the same effective size but way better hardware compatibility

[white temple]

Would you know a good GPU that combo well with the cpu that isn't too expensive

[plucky timber]

I'd say a 1080ti or 5700xt for $150

Used ofc

I'd check the case clearance tho

[white temple]

What kind of performance should I expect?

1080p high?

Med

[plucky timber]

not sure

Depends on game

[white temple]

Hmmm

[plucky timber]

Older games won't be bottlenecked as much by the 2400g

Newer games would struggle a lot more

Since you're limited to 4c/8t

[white temple]

I could see that. Would it be good for emulation

[white temple]

Whar?

[plucky timber]

Depends on what kind of emulation

[plucky timber]

Quad core

[white temple]

Ah

[plucky timber]

As long as you're not running ps3 or something you might be able to run it off the igpu

[white temple]

Like, maybe wii u at most, but other than that, no newer than wii

[plucky timber]

It is possible to run the entire thing off the igpu

[white temple]

I understand, but I'd want it to have a lot more power

If that was the case, I'd get a 8700g

[plucky timber]

Ehhhhhh

Not cost effective

You can get a 1080ti and a 3600

For the same price

[white temple]

I see

[plucky timber]

Or less

[white temple]

I guess I'll stick with the 5700 xt

[plucky timber]

Again if you want gpu power I'd go with a used 1080ti or 5700xt

If you can find it sub-$200

There is the arc b570 but

Driver overhead shenanigans

Bit hesitant with recommending it

[white temple]

Yeah, I'm kind of iffy when it comes to amd gpus

[plucky timber]

That's intel

Radeons are solid these days

[white temple]

I had nothing but problems when I first got my 7800 xt. A lot of problems

Crashed a lot, then found out that it happens when I have 2 monitors on at once while running an intense game

[plucky timber]

Honestly since the 5700xt is an older card it'd be fine

The drivers are more perfected

[white temple]

Ok

[plucky timber]

And if you go linux you'd get a pretty solid experience

[white temple]

I've been thinking about going with linux

Maybe steam os

[plucky timber]

For an emulation box + lower end gaming pc it's certainly usable

Favours AMD too

[white temple]

That's good

[plucky timber]

I'd go with something like fedora or debian linux

And get a script to launch steam in big screen mode

[full elk]

My 9900x can finally load quest 3 airlink without stutters

[plucky timber]

did motor redirect everything here again

[analog hearth]

yeah

[plucky timber]

He gotta stop doing that

[full elk]

The 5800x messes up weird

[analog hearth]

Ambassador knew but I had to redirect corv before he messed everything up

[plucky timber]

Is this even a #building-and-recc-chat question

[analog hearth]

Thanks for cooperating corv

[plucky timber]

armchair modding 💀

[full elk]

Np there’s hella clueless peeps in there sometimes

backseat gaming

[plucky timber]

What is the question?

Do you need build support?

[full elk]

안요

[white temple]

OK, I got the case and GPU, what would a good psu be?

And motherboard

[plucky timber]

Are you willing to go used?

[white temple]

Ehhh

No

[plucky timber]

B450s can be quite cheap if you can find a decent one off ebay

[white temple]

Am I looking for micro atx

[full elk]

I’ll need help on the 30th deciding which 50 series to get after reviews lol

[plucky timber]

...

Motor really just redirected you here for no reason

Unbelievable

[analog hearth]

bro started talking in Squid Game

[plucky timber]

Yes

[analog hearth]

I made a conditional statement: "If you're asking for help, go to #building-and-recc-chat." He's not even asking for help and he's here. Not my fault

[plucky timber]

Don't redirect everyone here

There's other channels

[analog hearth]

L opinion

[plucky timber]

Seriously there's people who actually need help

[analog hearth]

yeah I told him to come here

IF

he needed help

[plucky timber]

go back to #general-chat

[analog hearth]

how do I turn my finger into a 5090?

[plucky timber]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/G6bkwY if you need to get new this is... Not ideal on the motherboard side but it's the cheapest

I'd ask @mossy venture for a better list

[white temple]

Ok

I'm noticing something about how the motherboard may not have an updated bios to support the cpu

[plucky timber]

It has flashback

[dusky hearth]

it probably wont even need an update

[plucky timber]

Yeah it's a 2400g + it's a newer b450

Pcpartpicker really needs to update that bios compatibility message

[white temple]

OK good

[hardy remnant]

There is no way to diagnose if the cpu or mb is failing without having spare parts is there?

Windows had issues installing amd drivers from a fresh install with usb, system keeps crashing after logging in, mouse cursor has the little loading wheel, if i click on anything in the task bar it freezes and crashes

I have nothing in auto start, only the gpu & chipset drivers installed, I am very sure it has to be hardware and the only things I switched from my perfectly working system is the MB and cpu

[flint sapphire]

yeah that’s not sounding good, make sure your cpu cooler is mounted correctly just in case. I’d try to reinstall windows personally

[hardy remnant]

i tried that 3 times with new boot devices

[flint sapphire]

Ah

[hardy remnant]

even during the install window of the boot device my mouse was jittering

the same issue i thought was a driver issue

[flint sapphire]

Check the pins on your mobo

[hardy remnant]

aye...

[flint sapphire]

Idk what the issue is

Never ran into this

[hardy remnant]

I need to remove the cooler for transport either way

I'll get it to a repair shop, i have no spare parts

[flint sapphire]

Have you tried a bios reset?

[hardy remnant]

yes

[flint sapphire]

Like button battery wipe

[hardy remnant]

yes

[flint sapphire]

F

[hardy remnant]

I'll check the pins when I'm back

and pray

[flint sapphire]

Sometimes uneven mounting pressure or loose coolers can cause some weird throttling behavior is my only thought atm

[hardy remnant]

wouldn't you see a temp spike in something like HWInfo then?

[flint sapphire]

Yeah you would

I dint know you could reach hwinfo

[hardy remnant]

well even with benchmark testing something like ff14 dt it never got above 65°C

[flint sapphire]

[hardy remnant]

i could

it ran relatively stable yesterday....

and today i booted up and windows was laggy, froze and crashed when i tried to click on the taskbar

does not store minidumps although it is set to do so

[flint sapphire]

I’d say strip it down to barely functional… like if you have a igpu on your cpu use that and strip out any excess ram

Then add parts back in slowly see if anything changes

Idk I’m throwing poo at the wall

[hardy remnant]

when i asked the repair shop about it they said they had a lot of people come in with asrock boards

and that the chipset driver could cause issues

in the worst case dmg the cpu

so they just told me to not boot it up anymore if i could

I'll check the mobo and cpu for physical damage

[flint sapphire]

Gl

[hardy remnant]

thanks, I need it

I don't want to sit on a 800€ loss

[flint sapphire]

I will say, I’ve seen some cursed ram kits cause some crazy issues…

[hardy remnant]

that RAM ran like butter for a year

but on an intel pc

so maybe

[flint sapphire]

If you had no prior issues with it you’re probably fine

[hardy remnant]

0 bent pins, no damage to cpu

I have no idea

at this point I'm just thinking the mobo is faulty

[cyan ravine]

@hardy remnant sometimes ryzen cpus just turn up faulty with no real explicable reason

Food for thought

Mobos are less likely to be faulty in my experience (Everyone says the opposite but I often doubt it due to experience)

You may end up with maybe some faulty slot for the ram

But ryzen chip being doa does happen a dime a dozen

Try different cpu power cable(s) might do something

[rain carbon]

do you have anything else you could isolate the issue with?

say a family member with a r5 pc or something?

[hardy remnant]

all my family lives 5 hours away

no one i know with even a self built pc here

it's alright tho, there is a really good repair shop here, the guy has been going at it for 20 years now and takes a look at issues for free if you are a student

[hardy remnant]

i have my old intel cpu + mobo but I do not have the time currently to take all of the stuff out, put the new mobo in and plug stuff in, I have most of my projects due starting next week

[plucky bone]

hey.... do you u guys think its the end of the world for the cpu back plate to be upside down? Thing is, it seated a little bit better for the chrome bases on the other side, it wasn't perfect for "intel" holes, and it's not like i shorted anything?? and it's still like 30 degrees idle haha...

[cyan ravine]

Should be fine if there's no specific keying or shape to it

Done that myself before, but only because it wasn't specific to orientation

[rain carbon]

its sideways

[plucky bone]

huh?

[plucky bone]

thanks... the holes lined up fine with the cooler, and screwed in snug the same on both sides...

[rain carbon]

flip it 360°

[plucky bone]

yeah but then i have to pull the cooler off again, its a used ebay machine and i don't want to pull off the cooler? there's pressure you know?

[rain carbon]

put some blinker fluid in it

[dusky hearth]

@plucky bone #build-pics message get a shorter usb a to usb a cable(also black if possible), and pull the loose cable into the back

[plucky bone]

thats more money for an already 975$ build...

[dusky hearth]

it would probably like $5

[weary galleon]

Not caring is free

But maybe keep it to yourself don't tarnish the beauty of #build-pics /lh

[plucky bone]

why do i have to care about a cable not made for a pcie to pci, who's to say that cable isn't specially made for pci throughput?

[weary galleon]

?

[plucky bone]

huh?

[weary galleon]

I don't understand the question

[plucky bone]

who's to say that cable isn't specifically made for the pci throughput?

[weary galleon]

I think he was just suggesting a shorter one for asthetics

[plucky bone]

what's wrong with blue? when half of it is chome, and half of it is black? If i wanted it 'murdered out', i feel i would have...

murdered out isn't exactly vintage asthetic neither

[dusky hearth]

it's just a regular usb 3 cable, carrying only pcie 1x bandwidth

you were asking for opinions and i gave you opinions, whether you take those suggestions is up to you

[plucky bone]

thanks.... but im pretty sure i asked a question.

also feeling is subjective, kinda like the "stature" that America is apparently suppose to return to...

[sick parcel]

do i get this or do i just get a i7

[analog hearth]

"i7" okay which one?

[analog hearth]

the i7

[sick parcel]

okay

[dusky hearth]

do you not have any other options

if you have the budget, it makes way more sense to get a 7000 series ryzen

[mossy venture]

Whats your budget for the whole pc

And the 12700kf isn't really a great choice for a gaming pc

And if you're not building a full pc what parts are you buying

[mossy venture]

This, otherwise 12600kf/12400f make the most sense

Hell id take an 8400f at $150 over a 12700kf in a gaming build

[sick parcel]

under 700

[weary galleon]

Potential issue with this is it has 1/2 the L3 cache of a 7600 or 7500F

[mossy venture]

Did you buy anything yet?

[mossy venture]

Yeah its about a 5600 in games

[weary galleon]

I'd save a bit more for 7500F or just go AM4 or 12400

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tb9wqH

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QkBzZc

Add cpu/mobo to cart on newegg

Should come up $30 off

[weary galleon]

isn't 12400 ~= to 5600 for gaming?

oh wait, nvm

didn't see the bundle and though you were reccomending a really espensive 12400 lol

[mossy venture]

Lol

[sick parcel]

no

[mossy venture]

Checkout the two lists above

A used gpu would give you better value tho

[sick parcel]

okay thanks

[stray dome]

Having a hard time with finding information on where the cables plug into my motherboard. Msi x670e gaming plus wifi.

Do plug the 240mm liquid freezer iii aio into cpu fan 1 or pump fan? First build and the plugs are under the top rad

[ruby ledge]

whats a good price for a used rtx 3060? new ones are around $290

[plucky timber]

Under $200 tbh

you can get 5700XT and $1080ti for ~$150-250

[mossy venture]

Unless you need specifically nvidia and high vram for a workstation task, I wouldn't bother with one

The 3060 ti is usually not much more and is 30% better, and any 20 series gpu 2070 super or higher performs better, and you can likely find one cheaper.

Not to mention 5700xt/1080 ti like boeing did, and also worth looking for a 6700xt/6750xt/6650xt/6600xt/6600 imo

[potent portal]

If you get that make sure to get DDR5 memory and a DDR5 compatible motherboard, or else you'll lose between 10-20% of your performance. Anything at the level of the 12600K/13400 or higher this applies to.

[crimson zinc]

3060tis can be found on fbmp for $200

@ruby ledge

[ruby ledge]

how do i know they work fine or wtv

i was mainly looking at ebay cuz of buyers protection

[mossy venture]

r/hardwareswap

And use PayPal goods and services

[jagged ember]

Do not use personal transfer or whatever

[fair raven]

Hi team,

My pc has been randomly rebooting occasionally, typically it'll restart and try to get back to doing stuff it'll reboot again, then be good for a bit. I updated windows.

I checked my event viewer and I was getting some errors for something related to gameinputsvc and I went through the troubleshooting for that and it has since stopped showing up in event viewer but I still have issues with random reboots. The only other noticeable thing in event viewer was a critical just saying that my pc unexpectedly shutdown. No other error codes, and I haven't gotten any bsods at all.

I checked to make sure my psu was plugged in all the way, no funny sounds or anything, I'm not overheating (I watched temps), I had some issues with programs freezing but it only happened for about 10mins and it hasn't been an issue since (I watched my task manager when all of that was happening and nothing spiked, not ram or anything.)

I think it's my psu, but I notice when it reboots my desktop power button light doesn't turn off. So I'm not really sure if that's an indicator or anything? Or if the odds are it's still the psu.

I was gonna run a memtest to make sure it's not my ram cause I've had issues in the past where I can't get my ram from 4800mhz to the advertised 6000mhz.

but does anyone have any ideas? Sorry for the big paragraph.

[dusky hearth]

what kind of reboots? black screen of death (screen suddenly goes black)?
or was it a bsod?

[plucky timber]

What memory are you using?

[fair raven]

I have this ram and my psu is the be quiet! pure power 750w

[plucky timber]

❌ Vengeance

[fair raven]

It just goes black, then comes up with the reboot circle spin > windows sign in

[plucky timber]

Ok so far so good

[dusky hearth]

hmm

[plucky timber]

Any unusual sounds when it reboots?

[fair raven]

Not that I've noticed, but I do have earbuds in

Today it actually has NOT crashed which is a record. It's been about 3 hours since I turned my pc on.

[plucky timber]

I'm going to go on a hunch and say it's not a psu issue

[dusky hearth]

hmm....

[plucky timber]

Those older bequiet units are solid

What gpu are you using?

and cpu too

Full specs would be helpful actually

[fair raven]

I can send my full build

[plucky timber]

👍🏻

[dusky hearth]

hate intermittent issues

[fair raven]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/m9KnGJ

[plucky timber]

Hmmm

I'm not going to rule out psu issues

[dusky hearth]

that should be fine with a 750w theoretically

[fair raven]

I built this a little over a year ago

[cursive wharf]

The only other noticeable thing in event viewer was a critical just saying that my pc unexpectedly shutdown
As in, Kernal Power with error code 41?

[plucky timber]

Since it's an older model psu with a newer system

I'd lean more on memory issues tho

[potent portal]

Clear cmos, don't change anything in bios, not even xmp, and see if you still crash

?cmos

[jolly river]

How to clear CMOS (works for AMD and Intel)
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000025368/processors.html

[fair raven]

Yes,

[plucky timber]

What windows version are you using if you don't mind me asking?

Might be unrelated, might not

[fair raven]

You think? My reason for being psu was the lack of error codes, I figured with ram it might at least give me bsod but I really don't know

[plucky timber]

Windows 11 24H2 by any chance?

[plucky timber]

Not sure but that seems to be one of the easier things to test for

So it's a good starting point

That and clearing bios