building-and-recc-chat

[mossy venture]

Ones the 7800xt unless I forgot to swap it

This one

[potent portal]

Ah so they weren't the same model being compared

But wait, those aren't the same price like they said

[little osprey]

Yeah the one I sent, and the first option you sent are both RX 7700 XTs, just a different brand

[mossy venture]

This is solid
https://www.zotacstore.com/us/zt-d40720h-10m-o

[mossy venture]

Oh yeah the xfx is just nicer

Challenger is bottom tier for amd cards

Same with mech and most asus dual cards

Like msi non 40 series ventus or msi slim 40 series for nvidia

[mossy venture]

Thered also a 4070 ti on there for $573

I forgot I wasn't comparing to the 7900 gre these are very different price points than the 7700xt

Mb

[vale epoch]

Yo what

With warranty?

[mossy venture]

1 yr iirc

Oh no 2

Says it on the link lol

https://www.zotacstore.com/us/zt-d40710b-10p-o

[little osprey]

Interesting

[potent portal]

Zotac often has deals on refurb like that

Them and EVGA were pretty consistent during the pandemic shortage

[vale epoch]

I remember that 1.3k 4090

People who bought a strix 4080s should have seen that

[potent portal]

I hate that this is said like it's a good thing but yes

overpriced brick

[vale epoch]

Interesting they sell their own towers and they’re not overpriced

[vale epoch]

Only one 16 gig stick tho

On the first one

[mossy venture]

Still way over the initial cost, but this is maximizing gpu perf as much as possible if you care for it. Any of these lists including your first one (with the rm750x and xfx 7800xt) is more than fine
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Jm2zyW

@little osprey

[vale epoch]

Huh it honestly looks like they used that microcenter bundle

Am i assuming too much?

[potent portal]

Probably sourced from the same distributor at least

[tawny violet]

@potent portal mind if I DM you real quick?

[potent portal]

What kind of a budget would you be looking at for the fans @vale epoch?
I'm guessing not that much because people don't get Montech cases with deep pockets

[vale epoch]

Lol ig 30 usd max

Actually 40 might be reasonable

[potent portal]

These might be good, a little extra for extra features https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0D7NQK5VZ?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1

I'll keep looking for other reverse blades that are cheaper

[vale epoch]

Appreciate it a lot man

[potent portal]

Ah here we go https://www.amazon.com/Thermalright-TL-C12R-120mm-Case-Fan/dp/B0C4HRKDH6?th=1

[vale epoch]

Perfecte

Praise the thermalright gods

And praise thee falcie

[potent portal]

The machine gods are pleased by your praise

[serene onyx]

Found a motherboard and cpu combo for 50$ on fb marketplace

Only issue is

Usb header port on mobo has bent pins

Have no clue what motherboard

[potent portal]

That's one thing that is easy to fix or ignore

As long as the pins don't touch each other and short out, you can bend them out of the way

[little osprey]

Yeah the 7700 and the 7800 XTs aren't bad, I don't need that much performance

One things for sure, I am looking for a 1440p monitor....but OLED

Yeah I know they cost an arm and a leg, which is why I want to see if there are any suggestions of the least expensive OLEDs y'all can find. Preferably above 200hz

I've seen some as low as $550 - $660. Not sure how good they are tho

especially those that are on sale. when is Amazon doing their Black Friday deals? Don't they usually do it fairly early every year?

[potent portal]

If I had to guess, it'll start around the 25th

[little osprey]

hmm

Acer Predator X27U | 27" WQHD 2560 x 1440 OLED Gaming Monitor | AMD FreeSync Premium | Up to 240Hz | Up to 0.01ms | 1000nits@HDR 3% | DCI-P3 99% | Delta E<1 | USB Type-C, DP 1.4 & 2 x HDMI 2.0 https://a.co/d/0KIprxO

Thoughts?

[potent portal]

Pretty good. Cheapest of the OLEDs from well known brands currently.
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/acer/predator-x27u-bmiipruzx

[little osprey]

It's the same one 😭

That's the website I used too lmao

[potent portal]

Right yeah, that's why I brought it up. Just to show the review if you hadn't seen it yet.

There are cheaper options if you don't mind lesser known brands

They use the same panel

[little osprey]

As long as they work just as well

[potent portal]

Unless you want extreme color accuracy for professional work they're fine

The OSD can be harder to use on them but most people don't need to touch it

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/BBhv6h/aoc-ag276qzd-265-2560-x-1440-240-hz-monitor-ag276qzd

[tawny violet]

there is apparently a QD-OLED version under the name AG276QZD2

240hz 3rd gen QD-OLED panel (unknown to me manufacturer)

[potent portal]

Samsung panel

[tawny violet]

Well then 3rd gen Samsung QD-OLED

and it's about the same price here as the WOLED one

[potent portal]

Their "3rd gen" panel is just 2nd gen + firmware update really

[mossy venture]

This is really good too
https://www.amazon.com/KTC-OLED-Monitor-Built-DisplayPort1-4/dp/B0CRDRL92Z/ref=mp_s_a_1_1_vs_ar_sspa?

$467 iirc after the two coupons

[potent portal]

I hesitate to recommend due to brand reputation but it does exist

[mossy venture]

I believe they're an oem for a lot of other brands

[strong knoll]

anyone know where to get a windows key lol
thats not $130 dollars

[weary galleon]

Ok if I DM you?

[strong knoll]

yea sure @weary galleon

[forest lava]

First time building with AM5. Am I supposed to push this lever down?

Image failed to load

[dusky hearth]

I assume you're talking about the cpu socket

Which yes

It will require a moderate amount of force

[strong knoll]

anyone know what this means

[coarse coral]

yellow is dram

so ram

[strong knoll]

i tried updating my drivers and got a black screen so i turn off my computer and when i turn it on it says ur almost there like it’s updating and then it says restarting and then that happens

so what do you recommend?

[coarse coral]

what drivers

[strong knoll]

nvdia

but idk what that would have to do w my ram

nor would the window update

should i turn down the mhz my ram is running at?

[strong knoll]

uhhh

so un what should i do

so i turned down the mhz

any reason why

it worked

and why i had to do that

[potent portal]

Is that an AMD CPU by chance

If so disable memory context restore in bios

It'll take a little longer to start but it shouldn't fail to do so any more

As for why that happens, there's a bug in AGESA that causes it to fail to reapply known good settings from the previous training

Disabling that option forces it to retrain memory every boot

[strong knoll]

got it working now thank you

[little osprey]

i just got done doing the same thing

[forest lava]

I should not use a single cable for my gpu right?

[potent portal]

Generally speaking, it is better to use multiple cables instead of the daisy chain connectors

Best case it's fine, worst case it melts and damages your GPU

[forest lava]

I don't like those odds

This is annoying though because idk how to make the loose daisy chains look good

[potent portal]

Cut them off

As long as the copper in the wires doesn't short to other wires it's fine

[forest lava]

ehhhhhhhh

I think I have replacement pcie cables somewhere if something goes wrong

[forest lava]

Does anyone own an H18 Versa tower?

I'm trying to find out how to remove the front panel to install case fans but the manual doesn't mention how and videos skip over that part

[little osprey]

is KTC good tho

KOORUI Monitor, 27" QHD IPS Gaming Monitor, 170Hz, 1ms, HDR400, Compatibility G-Sync and FreeSync, Tilt Pivot Swivel Vertical Height Adjustable，2 HDMI 2.0 & 1 DisplayPor 1.2, 27E3Q, Black https://a.co/d/6OMVYNd

thoughts on this?

it's not OLED I know, but I'm asking in general

[rain carbon]

Cant say i see anything offputting about it, it is a cheaper monitor tho so wouldnt be surprised by any stand or OSD issues

Otherwise if the specs are correct id say thats a pretty good price, good panel

[forest lava]

Fresh build is currently booting to a red and yellow light on the mobo and no display

I know yellow has something to do with memory but I'm not sure what the problem with the ram would be

[manic cloak]

Hi there! Do you have a parts list you can send real quick? Sometimes it helps whoever narrow it down for you

[manic cloak]

Usually the ram or the motherboard could be the fault, recommend taking out the ram sticks, keeping 1 in A2 (the 2nd slot) and try booting, if it doesn’t boot, try replacing it with the other stick and try again. If neither of those work, move it to B2 (4th slot) and try the same process

[analog hearth]

AMD build?

[green laurel]

Hello all, I recently purchased an open box 7900xtx and currently have a 3080, am I able to simple take 3080 out and put in 7900? Or do I need to delete all nvidia drivers before putting in. i just want to test it to make sure it works.

[rain carbon]

from what i understand yes, to avoid any confrontation with the new amd drivers

[analog hearth]

?ddu

[jolly river]

DDU (Display Driver Uninstaller) Guide by Pato
https://github.com/NeweggTechie/Graphics-cards/wiki/How-to-use-DDU

[green laurel]

Ok ty, I was only wanting to test the card in old pc while waiting on all parts for new pc so I would know if I need to semd it back. Was hoping I could just plug in quick and check for good operation.

[forest lava]

Do you need the links or would just the part names do?

tryna find the link rn

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ThYwPJ

All the relevant parts I can think off

Also forgot to mention the cpu light

PC does not power off with the power button once turned on

[mossy venture]

Yes

[mossy venture]

I wouldnt cheap out quite so much

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LtHrHW

[forest lava]

I already have this stuff

It doesn't show on the site but I got a bunch of discounts on the stuff I got

[mossy venture]

Ah

Just the mobo and psu hurt a lil bit

Not psu

Case

Im tired

Psu is great

[mossy venture]

Id check power sw connection

Should be bottom right of mobo?

[forest lava]

Indeed

I always wanted to try micro atx, but this is currently biting me in the rear

In order to access the power sw connection, I have to remove the GPU each time

[mossy venture]

Matx isn't bad at all just that mobo and case aren't the best and im sure the case is hard to work with

Tbf i had to do the same for my atx build, just a different reason

[forest lava]

Case was actually pretty simple to build in for me

[rain carbon]

I work on an itx board 🥹

Mini itx

[mossy venture]

I used to

Wasn't too terrible but it was also in a gigantic atx case

Asrock a520i ac for $40

[rain carbon]

I work in a micro atx case

But it's still a pain

Well not technically matx but it practically is

Its just a big itx

[frail valve]

Is that front solid plastic?

[rain carbon]

Metal

Its a mesh

[frail valve]

No wait its mesh I googled it

[rain carbon]

Yurp

[frail valve]

My brother got an atx look-a-like case to that and it's front was solid plastic

[rain carbon]

I plan on getting a new case at some point, one specifically because i love the weird design

[frail valve]

It was overheating with nothing but a 5600 and rx 580

[rain carbon]

https://www.amazon.com/Micro-ATX-Included-Supports-Horizontal-CA-1Y4-00SKWN-00/dp/B0D9VNPNMZ?source=ps-sl-shoppingads-lpcontext&ref_=fplfs&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

[frail valve]

Needless to say we ripped that front off and yeeted it into the trash

[rain carbon]

Thats depressing lmao

[frail valve]

Without the cover we instantly got temps down to the 60s lol

[rain carbon]

#graphics-cards id post it here too

Oh youre buying used that was used?

Hm it is a bit sketchy

Seems like if you could fix it up itd be a good deal

Weird one tho

And there could be more underlying issues present as well

[frail valve]

Sketchy? Absolutely. However I don't want to pay $650-700 on one when this could be salvaged

[rain carbon]

Hence why i didnt write it off immediately

Youd have to know the risk youre taking tbh

Theres no guarantee its worth it

[frail valve]

Also thanks for telling me where to put it

[rain carbon]

Np

[forest lava]

Think I'm going backwards. I might be wrong but I could have sworn my gpu fans were running beforehand

Ah this reeks. I feel like I'm gonna find out the problem is painfully obvious and I just somehow missed it over and over

[frail valve]

Bit of an extreme decision but have you tried using something like MSI afterburner to force your GPU to use fans even at 0% usage?

[forest lava]

PC won't display anything at all

But the GPU fans are working

I waited a bit and both the ram and the cpu error lights are gone, and now it's just the boot light but green

Which is good but I still don't see anything on screen

Update: Now the monitor is recognizing output from the pc but it's a black screen

Aaand now I've fixed it... By turning the pc on while the gpu is connected to the monitor, then by turning it off, switching to onboard, then turning it on

Starting with onboard was not working before

GPU wasn't either

Weird fix but I'll take it

[frail valve]

A W is a W

[dusky hearth]

it might have been because of ram training
did you leave the pc to boot for 10 minutes? first boot takes a little while

[forest lava]

I took a whole nap the first time while it was booting (it was really late) and it didn't work

[dusky hearth]

hmm

strange

does connecting to the gpu work now?

[forest lava]

No

[dusky hearth]

oh

try reseating the gpu then

[forest lava]

I'll just install windows now and switch to it after

[dusky hearth]

it should be working even without windows installed

[forest lava]

The gpu works, it's just not being prioritized over the onboard I think

[dusky hearth]

there's no priority on the bios, every screen is mirrored

reseating should probably fix it

sometimes dust or some light corrosion on the contacts would make a bad connection causing it to not be able to display

and all the gpu power connectors need to be connected

[forest lava]

Reseating it worked

It looked like it was seated properly but the latch went down further the second time I did so

ty

[dusky hearth]

np

[boreal patio]

What’s a good build for streaming video and gaming

[cyan ravine]

This entirely depends on the money spent

Or the objectives desired

[dusky hearth]

yeah you'll need a 4090 and a 9800x3d

[manic cloak]

You’ll need a spare 3000$ first

Then you gotta buy the processors straight from Taiwan

And with the soon to be tariffs, it isn’t going to be cheap

[rain carbon]

And you need 128gigs of ddr6 ram AT MINIMUM

I dont care how you get it

I just realized that might be the norm one day 😨

[frail sluice]

can someone tell me why my dram light is still red even when ive tried each ram stick individually, and i updated bios by qflash plus usb and button

[fossil cedar]

try clear your cmos

?cmos

[jolly river]

How to clear CMOS (works for AMD and Intel)
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000025368/processors.html

[frail sluice]

ill try it rn

[fossil cedar]

@willow meteor lets chat here about it, do you already have the cpu?

[willow meteor]

no i don’t have cpu

compatible for 7800x3d

[mossy venture]

With a 2k budget 4070 is very underkill

[snow dragon]

Yeah what I am making rn is half of that

You would have to waste money to get to 2k

[mossy venture]

7800x3d also very overkill for a 4070

[snow dragon]

Maybe just wants to buy once and not upgrade for years to come

But even with the x3d im a little over half of it

[frail sluice]

it did not work

[mossy venture]

In most games where it would matter 7600/x would be plenty

[mossy venture]

Not wrong but imo 7600/x and going to a 10800x3d down the line makes more sense (or whatever they call next gen x3d cpu, if it even exists. Idk why it wouldn't)

[snow dragon]

[little osprey]

does anyone know of any good prebuilts I'm too lazy to build one but just wanna play rust and get lots of fps

[fossil cedar]

id do this https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RDdf74

[fossil cedar]

is this new ram?

[lean anchor]

What's a good fan controller for the price? I was debating about the icue, but none of my other devices even register in icue, and I would like to be able to sync everything while also offering different profiles.

[frail sluice]

yes it is

first bulid

[snow dragon]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sFvYJn

[fossil cedar]

you forgot a gpu lol

[fossil cedar]

ah whats the ram and cpu?

[frail sluice]

mycpu is the Ryzen 5 7600X with Silicon Power Value Gaming DDR5 32GB, and the Motherboard is a gigabyte B650 Eagle ax

[snow dragon]

Already has a 4070

[fossil cedar]

Hmm and you've reseated the ran for sure?

[fossil cedar]

Ahhhh

[frail sluice]

im thinking the ram is incompatible with my board but i dont wanna buy new ram just yet if thats not the case

[frail sluice]

mutiple times yes

[fossil cedar]

It's not ram is ram it could be dead ram

Reseat the cpu?

[snow dragon]

Did you try booting one stick at a time

[frail sluice]

yes i tried that too

[frail sluice]

and that

[snow dragon]

[fossil cedar]

Well there's 3 possible chances then, bad cpu motherboard or ram, I'd start with returning/RMA-ing the ram

[snow dragon]

Not sure if this would work. What about a bios update? Idk ngl. prob is the ram tho

[frail sluice]

alr ill get just do that then, ive tried everything else i could

thanks for the help

[snow dragon]

Did you check the compatability list on the motherboard website

[fossil cedar]

Dude they make no difference ram is ran

It's either made by hynix micron or Samsung

And any ram will work once it's the right ddr iteration for the board

[snow dragon]

Oh yeah he has a newer system nvm

[fossil cedar]

Good luck

[green laurel]

Hello the gpu I got is the 7900xtx saphire Nitro plus I have 3 cords that can go to it will this work?

That is all my psu came with

[snow dragon]

Im not good with prebuilts and airflow is questionable but I do think this is a good deal for prebuilt standards
https://www.cyberpowerpc.com/system/Prebuilt-Gaming-PC-GM-99637

[snow dragon]

Yeah seems fine. those are vga cables which are for the gpu

[noble phoenix]

hey peeps

https://www.newegg.com/promotions/AMD/24-1178/index.html

restocked, limited quantity of the bundles, we just made it live

[flint sapphire]

Sold out already

[potent portal]

A couple of the more expensive bundles and the prebuilts are still available though

Thanks for the heads up @noble phoenix

[noble phoenix]

now it's about to sell out aha

2 left

[languid nimbus]

rip

[green laurel]

Hello all, I am trying to complete this build last thing i was wondering is i have 7900 xtx and I head it needs to have 3 sep cables i have 2 plugged in already the last cable does not look like the other it is shown in pic should I use this as third or use pigtail off second

Also the side that is 6+2 won't fit in gpu side and will have to go in psu i guess due to configuration of shapes.

[analog hearth]

yeah

[strong raft]

@green laurel 6+2 is the gpu side, not psu. Just to be clear. Don't look at the shapes or try to hook a cable up backwards like this.

[green laurel]

I assume I press why this is new mb and new cpu?

[dusky hearth]

Yes

[green laurel]

Press y?

There is an ssd in the mb that has a few things on it like w11

[dusky hearth]

As long as there's no encryption, then changing resetting the ftpm won't matter for you

Or at least I'm pretty sure

[analog hearth]

fun fact: this screen is actually not coming from your storage. it's actually coming from your motherboard. "why does that matter?" you're making a hardware-level decision, whether you press Y or N

[dusky hearth]

technically it is from a storage
just the storage on the mobo

[upper moon]

would this work inside an alienware auroa r16 gaming desktop ?

[potent portal]

Would what work?

[serene onyx]

So I was trying to install the stock cooler that came with my Ryzen 5 5500 and I couldn’t figure out how to put the stock cooler on.

So what part do I put on first.

I don’t get it.

[potent portal]

The fan isn't supposed to come off the heatsink so you'll want to get that back on first

The ring goes under that I think?

[serene onyx]

We messed up

We gotta go bald

Cooler with no brim?

😨

[potent portal]

Without the ring the airflow won't be as good over the fins

Meaning it won't cool as effectively

[serene onyx]

Yes

I was jk

I was replacing the stock cooler with a new one

And the stock one just completely broke on me

[high field]

I need to get more storage should I get these? There 209$ on Amazon

[mossy venture]

def not

[potent portal]

That depends, are you editing 8K video or something else that needs extremely fast sustained speeds? No, gaming doesn't count.

[potent portal]

This is plenty good for most people, and less than half the price
https://us-store.msi.com/Sale/LAST-CHANCE-CLEARANCE/M482-NVMe-M2-2TB-Bulk

"Eco pack" just means it ships with less packaging

[mossy venture]

oh that makes so much sense lmao

i thought it meant the nand was worse quality

[serene onyx]

Man I wish I would’ve bought multiple of those 2 tb nvme’s I got for my pc, they where like 50$

Or 60

I don’t remember

[potent portal]

Yeah they were crazy cheap when Nvidia was selling off their wafer allocation for bargain bin price to the NAND manufacturers

[serene onyx]

Yeah

I’m kinda bummed out I didn’t take advantage

I could’ve had 6 tb in my pc and 2tb in my rog ally

6 is overkill, but 4 would’ve been amazing

[high field]

How much is the4tb?

[high field]

No just Microsoft flight simulator is all I do

[potent portal]

I'd do this for 4TB https://pcpartpicker.com/product/trjRsY/teamgroup-mp44q-4-tb-m2-2280-pcie-40-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-tm8ffd004t0c101

[high field]

Alright thank you

[potent portal]

$10 cheaper, slightly slower but you'd never notice unless you were copying from one super fast drive to another https://pcpartpicker.com/product/2BvD4D/silicon-power-ud90-4-tb-m2-2280-pcie-40-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-sp04kgbp44ud9005

[high field]

What a good speed u want to get?

[potent portal]

I'm perfectly happy with my gen 3 drive, I have never needed it to go faster.

Mine is rated at 1800Mbps

99% of people don't actually need a faster drive than that

[high field]

Yeah that’s crazy I always thought the higher th better

[potent portal]

It's just the gen 4 4TB drives happen to be cheaper at this time

[potent portal]

That's exactly what the marketing people want you to think

[high field]

True, and for 2TB u recommend this one? ^^^

[potent portal]

When you're gaming most of the data gets loaded into memory so it doesn't even touch the storage once it's loaded, and faster drives only help a little with load times. Nothing worth paying extra for, maybe 1 second difference.

[potent portal]

Yep

[high field]

Yeah thank you again

[potent portal]

It's a good gen 4 drive for the price of gen 3

[high field]

Yeah super cheap

[forest lava]

If I were spending that much, I'd get a gen 4 with double that storage

I heard gen 5 has heat issues

[potent portal]

It would never get hot enough to matter with just gaming, but if you used it for the intended purpose of 8k+ video editing then it might be a problem

[pearl mist]

guys is this good

Brand
Thermaltake
Operating system
Windows 11 Home
CPU model
Core i5-12400F
CPU speed
2.5 GHz
Graphics card description
Dedicated
Graphics
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060
coprocessor
• GEFORCE RTX 4060 - The NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 delivers the ultra performance and features that enthusiast gamers and creators demand.
• INTEL CORE 15 12400F - Experience exceptional performance with up to 6 cores for gaming, creativity and multitasking.
• Mesh Front Panel - Built in our V150 Breeze chassis, its front mesh panel allows for maximum airflow, keeping your PC components cool and quiet;
TOUGHRAM Z-ONE RGB 16GB DDR4 3600MHz Memory - Our Toughram delivers outstanding speeds, with stunning RGB lighting. Our RAM is configured with XMP enabled to ensure optimal performance from the first boot up.
• Fast Boot Times - Equipped with an ultra-fast SSD for lightning-fast load times, and Windows 11 already installed, you'll be ready to game in no time!
• 2 Years Warranty - Buy with confidence - Two-year warranty. We love our products, and we hope you will too. But if anything does go wrong with your purchase, our RMA and warranty services in Australia are here to help; Quality Assured & Locally

is it worth 1.4k aud

[potent portal]

Nah that's a 900 aud system

Basically this https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/cwKTWc

[pearl mist]

u think i should build it?

or buy a pre build i need it to be consistent for every game and a cheap price too

could u help me out pls

[rough loom]

you will always stretch your money further with a self built system

[pearl mist]

but i’ve never built one

is it easy

[rough loom]

you can learn alot about it via a few youtube videos actually

its easyish as long as you follow a guide/the instructions given with each part

[pearl mist]

do u need certain equipment?

[rough loom]

nah, you can build a PC with litterally a philips screwdriver

[pearl mist]

😭

u think u could build me a pc for 1000$ aud

then i’ll buy everything n build it

[rough loom]

Im sure someone can, Im terrible at doing budget builds >.>

[pearl mist]

aww mann

where the mods at x

[rough loom]

if you use that part picker website it probably has some build suggestions on it

[pearl mist]

let’s see

[rough loom]

the one linked a little earlier

[potent portal]

Making a couple tweaks to the build I linked

So it's better

[pearl mist]

okay, u think u can sus the link when done 😁

[potent portal]

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/2NF6h7

Windows is technically free to use, you just can't use the "personalize" menu

You can also transfer an existing license you have to your new build

[pearl mist]

what’s all that

uhm what’s this?

The MSI B550M PRO-VDH WIFI Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard supports the AMD Ryzen 5 5600 3.5 GHz 6-Core Processor with BIOS version 7C95v2A. If the motherboard is using an older BIOS version, updating the BIOS will be necessary to support the CPU.

[rough loom]

you might need to use bios flash in order to update the bios incase its old enough that it doesnt recognize the cpu

or the system wont start

[pearl mist]

oh

that’s scary

[rough loom]

pretty good chance that its updated to a newer bios. The stock would have to be ancient at this point for it to not

[pearl mist]

so i’m good?

[potent portal]

The motherboard also has a bios flash button to make it easy on the off chance you need to update

[rough loom]

alternatively a b650 would natively see it

[potent portal]

B650 is a different socket mate

[pearl mist]

@potent portal is it a good pc?

[potent portal]

Good enough for casual gaming I'd say

You can upgrade the CPU to a 5700X3D later, and the GPU if you need to

[pearl mist]

how much fps consistently would u say

[potent portal]

In what game at what resolution and settings

[pearl mist]

valorant low settings

cod low

fortnite performance mode and low

[potent portal]

esports stuff then

Easy 120+

Probably 200+ in most.

[pearl mist]

shii that’s good

[rough loom]

ah yea no thats right. B550 would see a 5 series cpu reguardless then

[pearl mist]

so i can buy it no problem?

[rough loom]

weird for it to warn that

[pearl mist]

lemme show u

[potent portal]

The warning is because the non-X CPU came out after the motherboard released

[pearl mist]

ohh

@potent portal would u recommend to mod it a bit more for a higher price or is that good?

because i just need the pc to last and not be slow

[potent portal]

For what you're using it for, it's probably fine

[pearl mist]

that probably word is scaring me 😭

[potent portal]

Tell you what, I'll do a "one tier higher CPU" list and you can decide for yourself if it's worth it

[pearl mist]

okay

thank you so much man u really a good guy

u too @rough loom thanks bro

[potent portal]

This would be a little bit longer lasting, and get slightly better fps than the 5600.
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/YYYZLc

The DDR5 memory in particular helps with CPU limited games like most esports titles

[pearl mist]

ye bet

[rough loom]

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/Qj9Hxg

could be modified slightly probably, incase your upper limit is the 1400

newer platform so more chance for longevity

[potent portal]

You're missing storage

But if longevity is the goal then an AMD 7600 would be a great option, since AMD has committed to several generations on that socket and it'll be good to upgrade later if needed

[rough loom]

correct, I removed too many things when modifying your original build XD

moving to a 7600 and grabbing a gen 3 2tb drive should be rather cheap to do

[potent portal]

Just a bit more to get that AMD goodness https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/wRX7PJ

[rough loom]

actually gen 4s are cheaper than 3s now

[potent portal]

Yes and that's been surprising me lately too

Like this one https://us-store.msi.com/Sale/LAST-CHANCE-CLEARANCE/M482-NVMe-M2-2TB-Bulk

7300Mb 2TB drive for $90 usd

[rough loom]

damn, I could replace my entire legacy drive set with these and it cost nothing

[zenith cargo]

1tb WD_Black sn850x w/ heatsink on tiktok shop for $92

[potent portal]

Not bad, but that's still $2 more for a slower drive

[zenith cargo]

Im hesitating to buy

idk if I need it tho

[potent portal]

Spatium

[zenith cargo]

currently have a 1tb

[potent portal]

WD

[zenith cargo]

3500 and 2300

entry level

[potent portal]

Which is perfectly fine for gaming, mine is rated for 1800 and I'm happy with it

What you call "entry level" is where all gamers are

You only need faster for things that will actually use the extra speed, games do not

[zenith cargo]

[dusky hearth]

Back in my day we only could afford HDDs

[cyan ravine]

Aren't u like 19

Stop making me and Fal feel old

[dusky hearth]

Back in your day silicon transistors didn't even exist frfr

👴

You had to replace a vacuum tube every few hours on the scorching hot wall of vacuum tubes

[cyan ravine]

Fr (???)

[dusky hearth]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vacuum-tube_computer

[rain bloom]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gPNTvj
Getting ready for Black Friday, is this still a good value build and are the parts likely to go on sale?

[weary galleon]

You're overpaying on the gpu by $187

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/v2qPxr/asrock-phantom-gaming-oc-radeon-rx-7900-xt-20-gb-video-card-rx7900xt-pg-20go

Could also do xtx for $850
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/gCBG3C/asrock-phantom-gaming-oc-radeon-rx-7900-xtx-24-gb-video-card-rx7900xtx-pg-24go

[noble phoenix]

if anyone is still trying to get a bundle of 98900X3Ds, we are restocking them in 4 minutes

only bundles, no individual cpus

you heard it here first 👀

[green laurel]

hello, i got a new cpu today i currently have r9 7900x and got r7 9800 in mail is there anything i should do extra or is it as easy as taking old out and new in since they are both AM5?

[mossy venture]

Update bios

[dusky hearth]

Hmm

7900x to 9800 is like

Barely any different?

Oh 9800x3d I assume since there's no 9800

[green laurel]

I already updated bios to newest addition

Yes x3d

[dusky hearth]

But yeah, it should be a drop in replacement
Maybe need to clear CMOS if it doesn't boot but don't need to do anything else if you're on the latest stable bios

[green laurel]

Alright thank yiu!

You

[hexed scarab]

Would cyber power PC be a good place to have a pc built? does it account for everything fitting together properly?

i would build myself but im not even sure where to start

[dusky hearth]

Good place for buying a custom system? Not really, it's ok from what I heard though probably not the best
Yes it accounts for everything fitting

For building a PC yourself, there are YouTube guides on how to do the assembly, but you can take the effort out of doing research on parts by asking for a parts list in this channel

• Make sure to provide the country you reside in (if it is the USA, if you are in close enough proximity to a microcenter which usually has good deals in store)
• What your budget is, and if your budget is just the PC tower, or if you also need a display and peripherals
• if your using it for gaming, or for work like 3d modeling, programming, just word processing, etc.

[midnight echo]

i hope this is the right channel to put this in, but i have a deepcool lt520 and my mb is a asus prime b450m-a II micro atx am4, it says for the power to plug it into a cpu_opt on the mb and i dont see one, anyone know what header i can use on my mb to run this liquid cooler?

[weary galleon]

I think any fan header will work, just the cpu one is meant to let the bios or fan control software more easily recognize that it's a CPU fan & thus should be ran off of cpu temps

Pretty sure most motherboards have a CPU fan header, it might have slightly different labeling but will be closeish to the socket

Oh wait is it the pump you need to plug in?

I think same thing applies, just any fan header. The radiator fans should go in the cpu header, in red here:

Or maybe since I've never actually used an aio refer to someone who has lol

https://www.cgdirector.com/connect-aio-pump/

[midnight echo]

ok thank you anyways 🙂

[icy thunder]

Hey everyone, AliExpress is doing their big 11/11 sale and I wanted to get a mini PC to host things on like game servers and home automation servers. Was wanting to do 32gb ram to make sure I don't run out so I looked through a couple and made a list but I'm not sure which one is the best or if any are any good. Could someone look through this and see if any are worth getting? https://www.google.com/collections/s/list/87MuOMyMRJyG9KVdEwMjCA/3PAnyyafUcU

[dusky hearth]

Depending on the game server, you might want better single threaded performance

Specifically Minecraft is one of the servers that runs pretty much completely single threaded

Or rather it has 1 main thread

Which pretty much all game logic runs on

Most of the time, server lag is caused by the main thread being overloaded

[icy thunder]

Yeah I saw that too when looking stuff up but I'm not sure if any of those in that list have good single thread

I don't have access to a PC right now so I can't do as much research as I would like to so I was hoping someone here could take a glance at everything and be like "this one will work" or recommended something else in the price range.

[crimson zinc]

Hey act

I may have some bad news

[dusky hearth]

in terms of the ones in your list, the better ones are the ones with the 5700u/5800u/5825u

[icy thunder]

Ruh roh

[dusky hearth]

also yeah it's not 11 or 12 anymore

💀

[crimson zinc]

@icy thunder you’re better off getting a micro pc build

Than those nucs

[icy thunder]

I don't plan on doing anything crazy just wanna run a few servers 24/7

So I don't wanna put a ton of money in

[crimson zinc]

You could probably get a micro atx case, a $40 mobo, cheap am4 cpu, and a ram bundle

[icy thunder]

I have a spare 5800x

[jagged ember]

Why not any of the other ones?

minisforum, beeslink etc

[icy thunder]

And 64gb of ddr4

[jagged ember]

oh if you have those then yeah you could probably build a cheaper pc

[icy thunder]

Was planning on building my girl a new PC with them though

I've never built a mini PC before

[jagged ember]

it'd be more of an mATX case so

not that small

unless you were thinking itx

[icy thunder]

Would have to figure out a space for it near my desk

Hmmm

[jagged ember]

minipc could still be viable tho

just maybe without the 11.11 sale cause it's way past lol

[icy thunder]

Yeah

Those prices were cheap though

But that's what scares me lol

[jagged ember]

Check out minisforum, beelink, geekom

they're really well known brands

[icy thunder]

Okay okay

Will take a look thanks

[jagged ember]

cause yeah the ones in that list from earlier I haven't really heard of most of their names before

[icy thunder]

Yeah bunch of random brand names

[icy thunder]

Are you familiar with any of their products enough to recommend one with more than 16gb ram and good single core performance for either less than 300 or around that?

[jagged ember]

other than minisforum not really

and even then, I'd just be looking up benchmarks for the cpus that they come with lol

[icy thunder]

Gotcha gotcha

[dusky hearth]

itx would be more expensive though possibly lmao

[icy thunder]

If did end up using my 5800x to build the mini PC I'd need a GPU with it which would probably put me over price of just buying a mini PC

Could I'd need mobo, case, GPU, and power supply

[mossy venture]

5800x in a mini pc sounds very hot

Id want to fit in a 240mm aio or a dual tower

[tidal sky]

https://www.newegg.com/msi-optix-mag301cr2-30-wfhd-200hz-refresh-rate-144hz-refresh-rate-va-black/p/N82E16824475089 is this a decent monitor for the price

[vagrant breach]

Could someone help me with a build from 1000-1300$. Im focused on good fps on 1080 just to play with friends but have no clue where to start.

[fossil cedar]

What country? Do you need a monitor as well? Do you care about rgb etc? Also how much would you like to aim for between 1k and 1.3k? Usually 1k, 1.1k 1.2k 1.3k are all great options so depends how much you fancy spending

[vagrant breach]

I'm not firm on an amount between 1k-1.3k but anything on the lower side would be preferred. I'm NA, yes i have a monitor, i dont mind rgb but if it would make anything easier then im all for it

[fossil cedar]

Cool, just to clarify US or Canada? Very different markets and options

[vagrant breach]

US all the way down in florida man

[fossil cedar]

Cool gimme a min

[vagrant breach]

of course boss

[fossil cedar]

This is what I'd do for 1.1k
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9J4zyW
1.2k
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2kBCJn
1.3k
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JBnzyW

But honestly they're all quite overkill for 1080p lol

[zenith cargo]

@potent portal ok so I bought the sn850x. My current ssd is pcie 3.0 and it’s sitting in the top slot (4.0 capable). Can I swap it to the bottom with no problem or do I need to change anything before hand?

[fossil cedar]

That's not a problem

[potent portal]

Switching it should be fine

[vagrant breach]

I figured as much i just wanted to be able to kill shooters as far as frames go while not being left with the option

[zenith cargo]

👍

[fossil cedar]

Well all of them are great, and you could easily upgrade your monitor to 1440p with no problems

[vagrant breach]

Thanks a lot for the help you're much appreciated

[fossil cedar]

No problem happy to help

[jagged ember]

He does this a lot

[mossy venture]

Not really

[cloud halo]

my pc utilizes an core i5 3rd gen

16 gigs dd3

128 gig ssd

[analog hearth]

okay..?

[cloud halo]

its an dell opti 7010

[analog hearth]

What do you want us to do with this information?

[cloud halo]

uhh

clone my ssd to an 256 gig nvme

then insert it to an laptop

[potent portal]

Do you have a NVMe adapter

[cloud halo]

nein.

[potent portal]

Because a third gen computer will not support it

[cloud halo]

i said clone it

[potent portal]

You'll need an adapter of some kind unless your laptop supports both nvme and sata

[cloud halo]

sat uhhh

[potent portal]

You can use this adapter to put the nvme drive in the older pc, then use macrium reflect to clone the drive
https://www.amazon.com/M-2-Adapter-Aluminum-Heatsink-Solution/dp/B07JJTVGZM

You will not be able to boot windows from nvme on a third gen computer, but the laptop should work in theory as long as the OS supports the hardware. I'm assuming Windows 10 here.

[cloud halo]

yes

indeed 10 windows in my house

[rain bloom]

XT should manage 1440p without issues?

[weary galleon]

yeah

[rain bloom]

Awesome! now I’ve gotta wait for the sales to hit lol

[shut rampart]

hello, im just looking for an $1,000 upgrade on my setup

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/G4LMXk ( this is my current setup )

I want to make my theme white instead of black

building for streaming / gaming mostly streaming I do have a micro center near by and im going to wait for cyber Monday before buying the upgrade

[fossil cedar]

if youre waiting until then then id wait until then for any major upgrades and kinda decide then (look on black friday too)

[shut rampart]

yeah but I dont really know what part I should be getting

[dusky hearth]

Gpu

[plucky timber]

I'd wait for next gen to upgrade

with that kind of budget

[green laurel]

does anyone have an idea which chat i could ask some questions about iCUE? or is it this one?

[rain carbon]

If you want to make your theme white id start by just new gpu and case atm tbh

And just wait a bit before upgrading mobo to am5

I dont think now would be a good time to do a complete overhaul on your parts

[dusky hearth]

this one or #peripherals-and-displays or #windows-ios

icue sucks btw if you're asking on why it sucks

it's just how it is

[mossy venture]

This is what I'd keep, and maybe gpu
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WJR23w

That's up to you

[shut rampart]

I was thinking of just selling everything, keeping the ssd, monitors , and power, and for a new case maybe havn hs 420 since im going an all white / frosty build

and sell the reset of the un used parts for more budget

[mossy venture]

Hs 420?

[shut rampart]

yeah

https://havn.global/products/hs-420

[mossy venture]

Would definitely want cable extensions if keeping the psu

[shut rampart]

tho idk that or https://hyte.com/store/y70/cs-hyte-y70-ww?zCountry=NO

or lian li 011

[mossy venture]

Is the case part of the $1000 budget? Bc 1/5th on a case hurts me a bit

[shut rampart]

yeah will prob get white cable ones

[shut rampart]

naw out of the budget

1000 is mainly just parts not pc fans / case etc

[mossy venture]

Here's a few id suggest that are semi similar, but at the end of the day it's your pc, just my two cents
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/dczXsY/thermaltake-view-270-atx-mid-tower-case-ca-1y7-00m6wn-00

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/ZNkH99/gamdias-atlas-e1-atx-mid-tower-case-atlas-e1-wh

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/gtfxFT/sama-ar01-rgb-microatx-mini-tower-case-ar01-rgb-w

[shut rampart]

what parts do I get inside of my pc

[mossy venture]

Smthn like
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TWwRBq

Not a huge jump over 6700xt tho

Personally would keep the gpu till new gen, but again not my build

[shut rampart]

when is new gen

if I do keep my gpu I can still have some more parts to upgrade

I think that should be a plan keep my gpu power and ssd

[mossy venture]

New generation of gpus

[shut rampart]

no like whats the date

[green laurel]

I keep getting this after turning on pc, everything seems to be working fine, is there anyway I can prevent this from happening?

[shut rampart]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2W86h7

u have about $500 left to upgrade the mobo / memory / cpu / cooler

[mossy venture]

If you want you can do 7800x3d/9800x3d

Cooler is already overkill for any am5 cpu, 64gb ram is pointless unless you have heavy workstation use

Mobo is alr overkill too

[shut rampart]

I wounder if I can switch it out for white memory

[cyan ravine]

I agree with Bacca

Lots spent there when it's just going to have a 6700XT

That's almost considered low end now

[shut rampart]

well I can wait for new gen gpu and just buy one once it is out

[cyan ravine]

Ram can be left alone, the Mobo is about 50% more expensive than one of the best white options

The case is awful expensive and has many QC issues rn

Including choked intakes

Like what 4 filters per panel?

Kinda ridiculous

You don't need a 360 aio for that cpu

[shut rampart]

what white case should I get then

[cyan ravine]

The fans are awful, nothing NZXT makes these days are even remotely worth it

[shut rampart]

it was some what of the cheapest one I found that is rgb

and white

[cyan ravine]

I haven't looked yet but I know I can find something that beats 289 dollars

And same for fans

I'll beat both

[shut rampart]

can you find me one

[cyan ravine]

Do you own the ram yet

[shut rampart]

nope

[cyan ravine]

Do you own any ddr5?

[shut rampart]

nope

[cyan ravine]

Ok

[shut rampart]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/G4LMXk u can look at my current setup rn

[cyan ravine]

Thx

Are you after the dual chamber look or you just want white

[shut rampart]

just white

[cyan ravine]

What's the entire budget

[shut rampart]

around 1750

[cyan ravine]

Ok pay attention to my notes when I post the list

[shut rampart]

I have a micro center you can also used that but I see their bundle doesn't do all white...

tho I can prob resell it and get a white verison

[cyan ravine]

Ok, NOTE THESE THINGS DOWN:

1. The psu is for the OLD rig, move the strix to THIS ONE and buy a white psu cable extension kit for $20.
2. The old 1080p monitor can go, the XV271U can be used for a secondary.
3. The SSD in the list, stick it in the other PC and bring your MP33's over to this one

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/L9MLkf

Wrong link

Fixed now

Remember those 3 things

Reason why is you can sell a whole 1080p pc in one piece and migrate everything else over

Now this rig, will play anything in 1440p

Whatever you want to play it'll run it

You can sell the 5700XT+6700XT pc with no windows installed, and you can sell it with the 1080p monitor, sell it used for like, $800?

$800-ish

[shut rampart]

wait why acer nitro for secondary? its 180hz compare to 170hz

[cyan ravine]

Cos it's old af

The new one is mini LED

Trust me, you'll know why I did that when you try it out

Mini LED is miles better than an old VA

It's the step below OLED

Really really nice screen

[shut rampart]

The SSD in the list, stick it in the other PC and bring your MP33's over to this one

I have 2T of ssd so I dont need another stick or so

so in total 4T

[cyan ravine]

Yes but then how will you sell a complete gaming pc if it has no ssd

[shut rampart]

oh sell the whole pc

[cyan ravine]

Yes

See where my head's at now?

The new SSD, the old monitor and the new PSU go in the old rig

Oh wait no nvm

Ignore me I picked a different psu

Haha

You can tell them instead it's a tier C psu for that pc tho haha

[cyan ravine]

My bad I had my lists mixed up for a second, but this still applies to what I'm saying

Also one more thing

@shut rampart If you want a second opinion for that list, you need to tell people you're using those parts for the old pc otherwise everyone will get really confused

[shut rampart]

so sell the whole pc for like $800 comes with 1080p monitor and just switch out new psu with old and old with new

[cyan ravine]

Ye, and put the $32 ssd into it too

You can sell it for 800, maybe 900

Do local pickup cos shipping a pc is an actual nightmare

If you wanna ask others for a second opinion show them this list

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/h37mGJ

Tell them you're spending $80 to get the old pc into a sellable state

Otherwise people will be like

"600W??? For that pc???? OMG!!!"

💀

[shut rampart]

what happen to the rgb fans

[cyan ravine]

Integrated into the case purchase

[shut rampart]

oh

[cyan ravine]

You'll have 6 RGB fans

For like, $10 spent basically?

Pretty good value

They're better performing than nzxt ones too by a mile

Not hard to beat nzxt fans tho tbf

☠️

So if you have any more questions lmk cos I'm about to dip

[shut rampart]

https://www.microcenter.com/product/5006971/amd-ryzen-7-9700x,-gigabyte-b650-aorus-elite-ax-ice,-gskill-flare-x5-series-32gb-ddr5-6000-kit,-computer-build-bundle

been looking at this but its more like a downgrade no?

[cyan ravine]

The CPU will be tricky to find but don't pay any more than the price I put there

That's a downgrade yeah

The price is nice though comparatively

So if you don't mind the step down for better value I could revise the list with those parts

It is definitely slower tho and you'd probably see a better monitor in your list instead

I could maybe squeeze an OLED in, have to see

That would be the next meaningful upgrade to the list

[shut rampart]

if I buy the bundle, you would upgrade monitor right

[cyan ravine]

If you prefer it yes

It's about a 25% fps loss but the oled gain would be technically better performance

Without going into a huge rant, simply put OLED response = several gpu upgrades

[shut rampart]

the list u provided me, can I hold it untill black friday to see if there any other sale

[cyan ravine]

Sure

The parts I put there are pretty solid on price, but you could wait and see

[shut rampart]

alright thanks

[cyan ravine]

Np

Alr I'm out then

[mossy venture]

To be completely fair

It's only about a 15-20% downgrade for a free $190 mobo and $85 ram kit

Maybe more like 20-25? I'm not certain I've only compared the 7800x3d and 9800x3d

[shut rampart]

but the ram is black

I would like a all white

[mossy venture]

they should let you swap it for a white kit

might have to pay a few $

could call them tmrw and ask

[shut rampart]

I asked support chat they said can't

😦

[mossy venture]

oof

could resell it for $70-75 but that's a lil annoying

[shut rampart]

that or I can go with a black build, will I get more performance with black?

[mossy venture]

much much better value

[dusky hearth]

the white tax

[mossy venture]

7600x3d bundle at $400 is alr better value than the 9700x bundle

[shut rampart]

tho it would be kinda annoying having to ask for a black one lol

[shut rampart]

you prob asleep right now but, what would be duel chamber look on the pc part list u gave me

[dusky hearth]

felix is probably just waking up now

or nvm

[shut rampart]

he said he was heading out or something

[dusky hearth]

remembering wrong

around 15:00 currently there

idk if he's in the western area or eastern area though

[rotund talon]

“I recently built my PC with the following specs:
• Processor: Ryzen 7 7700X
• GPU: Radeon 7900XT
• RAM: G.Skill Trident 32GB DDR5 (AMD EXPO enabled)
• Motherboard: ASUS ROG B650E-F

When I enable EXPO in the BIOS, the boot time increases significantly. However, when I disable it, the boot time returns to normal. Are there any possible solutions for this?”

[potent portal]

Did you update the BIOS? That helps a lot.
If you did you can see if the "memory context restore" option enabled works for you. With that enabled, it may fail to restart sometimes due to a bug but will boot faster.

[mighty lantern]

Took a while but managed to cop one off one of the recent drops 👀

[languid nimbus]

Nice nice that’s awesome keep us updated on how it does

[mighty lantern]

Technically not much of an upgrade since I have a 78x3d but I’m selling it to one of my buds so good deal for both of us lol

I’m interested in tinkering a bit since the 98x3d is unlocked

[obsidian wigeon]

this feels a bit like 2020

[mighty lantern]

The dark ages

[crimson glade]

Is there someone who can help with a mini itx desktop build, please?

this is what I want to go with

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/camerontmclean/saved/#view=ydBm3C

[analog hearth]

Was about to absolutely roast your thinking putting a tower cooker inside of an SFF case. I'm surprised you can put such a cooler in that thing

From their site:

142 mm (without side fan bracket installed);
138 mm (with side fan bracket installed)
Like how

You can get much better performance per dollar going with an AMD GPU

[kind shuttle]

Hey all - I just finished removing some dust from inside my PC (which involved removing the CPU fan/heat sink and re thermal pasting the whole thing) and now my computer isn’t sending a video signal to my monitor. Any troubleshooting advice?

I also tried re-seating the RAM

[mossy venture]

Id change a few things

What's the pc being used for?

And are you set on MITX, or is a very small matx case fine?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TRFFTM

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9s8WZc

[analog hearth]

Are there any troubleshooting LEDs on your motherboard? Any codes? The power button rhythmically blinking?

[mossy venture]

Intel options

Amd
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nTPt6Q

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KXn3C8

[kind shuttle]

The only light I see is the one RGB on the mobo which is on

It’s the ASUS b450m-pro if that’s helpful

[rain carbon]

Motor is typing

[analog hearth]

Does that board have QLEDs? I couldn't find info regarding troubleshooting that board, not to mention there's like 4728472 types of that board apparently

[kind shuttle]

Yea — I don’t think it has troubleshoot LEDs

Or at least they’ve never been on before and I don’t see any now

I just tried reseating the GPU

[analog hearth]

Did you take the CPU out of its socket?

[kind shuttle]

Briefly to wipe off the old thermal paste but I checked and didn’t see any bent pins before reinserting

Should I take it out again to make sure nothing looks wrong in there?

[kind shuttle]

Nope — no visible problems with the CPU or the sockets

[high field]

What ssd should I get I need 2TB or 4tb

[stoic island]

what's your budget?

[shut rampart]

hmm what duel chamber case do I get that is white with a budget of $220, with white rgb fans

[mossy venture]

King 95?

[shut rampart]

I was thinking of C8

should I get c8 without fans or with fans

[mossy venture]

C8 is very nice

That's the 110-130ish one right? From antec

[shut rampart]

YES

ops caps

but idk what fans do I pick if im not going to pick the c8 case fan

I was thinking of Lian Li Uni Fan SL-Infinity a little pricy but I think it will be worth it

6 of them should work right or do I need more?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jL6vKq

this is what im thinking

[potent portal]

It isn't, uni fans are actually pretty low performance. Might as well get this, it'll perform better because of larger fan blade area. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CP7LBJP2?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1

If you want them for the ability to link together there's these instead https://pcpartpicker.com/product/yncgXL/thermaltake-ct120-ex-argb-sync-68-cfm-120-mm-fans-3-pack-cl-f190-pl12sw-a

[shut rampart]

oki I will get the link together one

will 6 be fine?

[potent portal]

6 will be plenty for that configuration

[shut rampart]

what would be the setup

[potent portal]

No need for a liquid cooler, it'll actually perform worse than a $35 air cooler

But for the fans you can do just 3 on the side as intake, 2 on the bottom as intake, 1 on the back as exhaust

[shut rampart]

the air fans are too bulky for me

going for more looks then I guess performance

[potent portal]

If it's for the looks then that's acceptable, do top exhaust for the liquid cooler

[shut rampart]

ty

[shut rampart]

oh one more questions will 9800X3D be in stock on newegg on black friday or you guys dont know

[mossy venture]

We've no way of knowing

[mellow meteor]

would it be better to just build a pc for the same price

[mossy venture]

yes 100%

youd get better quality and value. could do an equivelant build for like 1100

[mellow meteor]

that pc is still good though right

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hpdjXR

[mossy venture]

I wouldnt pay that much for it, but its not horrible

There's better pre builds on newegg

[mellow meteor]

do you think i should buy that build or this build https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MvVhMC

[mossy venture]

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16883360526?Item=N82E16883360526

[mossy venture]

I'd do this with some changes

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/W4FWZc

Could do 7900xt and still be under $1400

Or get a nice monitor like
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/7QsV3C/acer-nitro-xv275u-p3-270-2560-x-1440-170-hz-monitor-umhxxaa302

[mellow meteor]

is there a difference between like

the different variants

[mossy venture]

of gpu?

[mellow meteor]

like asrock challenger against powercolor fighter

yeah gpu

[mossy venture]

oh the challenger is one of if not the worst model on 7000 series

it's not horrible like 5700xt mech or 6700xt challenger

but I'd spend the extra $10 to avoid the noise and for lower temps

[mellow meteor]

oh i see

any reason you changed the storage and cpu cooler

or are they just like a better option for around the same price

and is 850w really necessary? i thought you only needed 750w since the estimated is only 444w

[potent portal]

When 850W is the same price or $5 more you might as well. Power supply prices have been weird lately.

[mossy venture]

and ssd will do the same thing for cheaper ye

cooler is just slightly better and a bit cheaper

[mellow meteor]

does it matter if the ssd is dramless or not?

[potent portal]

No

[mellow meteor]

i remember someone saying it did though

[potent portal]

And don't let reddit tell you otherwise

[mellow meteor]

like would it not impact my performance

[potent portal]

It does not

[mellow meteor]

oh

[mellow meteor]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/p6XmGJ so technically this build would be fine?

[potent portal]

The only thing that gets stored on the dram is metadata, which can be stored in system ram

[mellow meteor]

i kept the same ssd but changed the cpu cooler and power supply

cause the original cpu cooler didnt come with thermal paste and i wanted a power supply from a more reputable company

[forest lava]

I'm experiencing possibly the strangest frame tearing ever and I think my GPU is to blame

I have instances where sometimes only bits of a frame will update normally while the previous frame will remain in place

For example on Discord, if I were to click on #general-chat for example, most of my screen would still look like I'm in this channel, but a small rectangle will show the next page's content and scroll regularly and everything

Even stranger is that in Terraria, my game with frame skip on or off (instead of on subtle) glitches very strangely, with every few frames appearing dislocated

I'd have a recording from my phone but it happens so randomly that I can't catch it

[potent portal]

Could be the cable is coming loose. You can try swapping ports too if possible.

[forest lava]

I'll try that

Hope it has nothing to do with me cutting off the daisy chained connectors

[potent portal]

Nah if that was it then it wouldn't work at all

Because the power supply would detect a short

[forest lava]

Ah

[shut rampart]

someone bought out my c8 case

[mossy venture]

Twas me MUAHAHAHA

[cyan ravine]

[potent portal]

https://tenor.com/view/private-gif-21746511

[shut rampart]

[rain bloom]

Is there a reason the asrock 7900 XT is significantly cheaper than equivalent models?

[analog hearth]

Yes it's because ASRock just shouldn't be making GPUs

[potent portal]

Probably just the first model to go on sale for the holidays. This is usually the time when AMD discounts their cards.

[rain bloom]

That bad huh? I’m also looking at their mobo

[analog hearth]

their motherboards are good

[mossy venture]

It is fine.

There's nothing wrong with it, they have some bad gpus like the challenger but the phantom gaming is perfectly fine

[rain bloom]

I was gonna say the reviews overall seem good for it and I’m just going for 1440 180 Hz gaming so it should be able to do that for most optimized games?

[mossy venture]

100%

[bronze nebula]

I'm making a budget build to sell, and all parts are connected, but PC wont turn on.
-MB is getting power, indicated by RGB lightning
-Shorting the power button connection does not work
-I ordered a second MB, installed it and had the same issue
-PSU being faulty is probably not an issue, as I used my own PC's PSU and it also did not start
-It is not turning on, as no Chassis fans are spinning
I don't think I would've happened to get a second faulty MB, but if the issue isnt PSU then I really don't know what else it could be

[stoic island]

what exactly are the parts?

[bronze nebula]

Ryzen 3 3200G
B450 ATX AM4
16 GB DDR4
EVGA 500 W1

Old MB was another b450

[stoic island]

Which b450 in particular?

[bronze nebula]

PC part picker says that bios may need to be updated, but that should'nt prevent the case fans from turning right?

[stoic island]

That can stop it from booting

[bronze nebula]

ASRock B450 Steel Legend ATX AM4 Motherboard is what is currently in it

[stoic island]

If you have flashback on the mobo, I'd flash a new bios on it

[bronze nebula]

TUF b450m plus was the old mb

i dont believe I do

[stoic island]

Don't think either of those have flashback, you'll need a different CPU to be able to flash it, like if you have any extra zen+ CPUs

[bronze nebula]

Well regardless, again the mobo itself wont turn on

Unless I just happened to get a second faulty mobo, but I really doubt it

[stoic island]

There's no turning on if it thinks there's no CPU

[bronze nebula]

hmm, alright

[mossy venture]

The w1 is a fire hazard

[crimson zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/elmo-hello-elmo-rise-elmo-hell-gif-3989603362345473118

[stoic island]

yea uh opp doesn't work on w1 and it will kill itself if you try pulling at or above what it's rated for, but it is capable of at least turning on

[mossy venture]

Possible it's alr dead tho

[stoic island]

they said they tried a different PSU, and 3200g with no GPU is nowhere near pulling 500w

[mossy venture]

Ah ok mb

[crimson zinc]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/tWQKHx/sparkle-roc-luna-oc-arc-a770-16-gb-video-card-sa770rw-16goc

This looks so CLEAN

[rain carbon]

For real tho sheesh

Honestly looks like the bottom of those frozen meal trays

[dusky hearth]

Lmfao

[crimson zinc]

A770 gpus look so nice

[zenith cargo]

which cpus will perform better than the 5600x3d?

being hella bottlenecked in wz

even last wz

all wsz

[potent portal]

Without changing the motherboard? Not much

[zenith cargo]

am5

👍

is the r7 9700x any better?

[potent portal]

7800X3D, 7600X3D, new 9800X3D

[potent portal]

No

Like 5-7%

Not worth it

[zenith cargo]

even at higher speeds

[potent portal]

The 5600X3D is comparable to the 7600 in gaming, and Zen 5 is only about 5% better than that

Which means the optimal upgrade is going to be another X3D part

[zenith cargo]

o

[potent portal]

That'll net you about a 20-25% boost

Possibly more if you score a 9800X3D and overclock it, that thing's a beast

[zenith cargo]

you can oc x3d?

[potent portal]

The 9800X3D specifically, as a new feature

The 3D cache is now located under the core instead of insulating the heat on top of it, so AMD isn't as worried about the cores dying when you overclock it. So now we've seen a 9800X3D overclocked to 6.2GHz.

[zenith cargo]

zamn

so thats what those $650 cpus were on fb marketplace

[potent portal]

Oh, actually the current top frequency is 7241MHz, I was way off
https://hwbot.org/submission/5683736

I have seen 5.4GHz locked on all cores with nothing but a custom water loop

[zenith cargo]

yea I don't think I have access to dry ice

[potent portal]

That was LN2

You can get close to 6GHz with an AIO https://hwbot.org/submission/5683026

No more choosing between cache and clocks with this gen

[zenith cargo]

wtf even the power consumption is great

[potent portal]

It stays around the 120W TDP fully loaded yeah

Almost any AM5 motherboard could handle that

Half the power of the 14900K when gaming

[jagged ember]

Yeah that's exactly why Intel is getting crapped on

Its better, faster and still power efficient

[zenith cargo]

what cheap motherboard do you recommend?

[tawny violet]

So now, AIO is actually worth on 9800X3D heh

[tawny violet]

for what socket?

[zenith cargo]

am5

[potent portal]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Dq4Zxr/asrock-b650m-hdvm2-micro-atx-am5-motherboard-b650m-hdvm2

[tawny violet]

Gigabyte Eagle AX is a little higher end, but ye HDV is gud

[potent portal]

If cheap is the goal yeah the micro ATX HDV can handle a 7950X

And it has flashback and all the basic features

[mellow meteor]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LNLCJn
should i replace the gpu with the asrock challenger 7900 gre? im scared that when amazons black friday sales start the gpu wont be in stock

[zenith cargo]

its not micro is it?

[mellow meteor]

and the gpu was 800 the last time i checked earlier today

[tawny violet]

Eagle AX is normal ATX

[zenith cargo]

It wont fit

😦

[tawny violet]

ah

then HDV ye

[zenith cargo]

:((

is there a higher end than that one

like sub $180

mid end

[potent portal]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/qcbRsY/asrock-b650m-pro-rs-wifi-micro-atx-am5-motherboard-b650m-pro-rs-wifi

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/9HTZxr/gigabyte-b650m-gaming-plus-wf-micro-atx-am5-motherboard-b650m-gaming-plus-wf

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/cRQcCJ/msi-pro-b650m-a-wifi-micro-atx-am5-motherboard-pro-b650m-a-wifi

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/fFzhP6/gigabyte-b650m-aorus-elite-ax-micro-atx-am5-motherboard-b650m-aorus-elite-ax

180 gets you wifi and more heatsinks

[zenith cargo]

hb that asrock\

[tawny violet]

Pro RS is gud

It's the one I wish I got

[potent portal]

I'm very happy with my livemixer personally

[tawny violet]

ATX in general is more feature-rich, but you cook with what you got

[zenith cargo]

does anyone know how much ebay takes when you sell something?

Looked on google but keep getting diff answers

[potent portal]

It depends on how ebay is feeling that day

It's anywhere from 0% when there's a promotion to 18%

[weary galleon]

Not exactly how it works, they have item categories with different %s

I think they have simplified the categories as well. The max is 15% for things like watches and handbags, but most stuff is 13.25%

[shut rampart]

https://www.newegg.com/team-32gb-ddr5-6000/p/N82E16820331846?Item=N82E16820331846
https://www.newegg.com/team-32gb-ddr5-6200/p/N82E16820331747

which one for a 9800x3d cpu

[mossy venture]

First

[sick lichen]

I originally ordered some thermal paste like 4 years ago, would it still be good to use or should I order newer?