building-and-recc-chat

[plucky timber]

That's what the picture reminded me of

[potent portal]

@obtuse laurel No money can change hands in this server

[obtuse laurel]

right so are u gonna help me or what

[potent portal]

I'm not at my PC so I can only do little things right now

[obtuse laurel]

i’m having 2 main issues,

1. only 1 of my 2 daisy linked fans are working (thermaltake)
2. my radiator fans are getting rgb and fans moving but the cooler itself is not getting rgb and im not sure if its even on (corsair link h150i rgb)

[potent portal]

1, switch the fans and see if that helps. One fan may just be dead.
2, Corsair sometimes doesn't turn the RGB on until you run iCue

iCue can also tell you fan/pump speeds so you can see that it's working

[obtuse laurel]

it’s a new build i’m not sure if i can boot into windows to see icue my friend

[obtuse laurel]

i can’t daisy link other fans

i literally just don’t know where to plug in my fans

i don’t have a hub

[brittle spindle]

Hey bacca thanks for the list does the mb come with enough fan headers?

[potent portal]

The RGB is the least of your worries right now then. Wait until you have software installed to worry about that.

[potent portal]

I meant switch the two fans you have daisy chained with each other and see if the one that isn't spinning, starts spinning

[potent portal]

Yes, you only need 3 since the front fans chain together and the CPU cooler fans chain together.

[obtuse laurel]

i’ve fixed that

but i’ve ran into a new issue

[brittle spindle]

Thanks so much also does the ram have enough clearance to fit

[potent portal]

You can shift the fan if needed

[brittle spindle]

Like in the middle and in the back?

Instead of front and in the middle

[potent portal]

Like the fan doesn't need to be centered on the heatsink

But you could also move it to the back

[brittle spindle]

Oh like a bit up

[brittle spindle]

1 x CPU fan header
1 x CPU fan/water cooling pump header
2 x system fan headers
1 x system fan/water cooling pump header

For the mb can I plug in the 2 fans into the cpu fan header?

The two cooler fans

[potent portal]

The CPU fans will chain together so they only need the single CPU fan header

[cyan ravine]

Yeah provided they chain you can

Just don't chain too many together

[potent portal]

It's only a dual tower

[cyan ravine]

Motherboards can only do so many per plug

[cyan ravine]

Ik, just in case it's a question later tho

Might consider one day putting 7 on one which is dodgy

[brittle spindle]

Alright so the three fans in the front go into a system fan header, then the two fans on the cooling can go into the cpu fan header, then the fan in the back can go into a remaining fan header

[potent portal]

Correct

[cyan ravine]

Rule is stay under 1 amp of current, and each fan says how much it uses ( e.g 0.3A or 0.3 amps per fan), you add them together

Some headers can do more but would be stated to do so

[brittle spindle]

Do the fans come with the rgb connection too?

[cyan ravine]

Yes if they're rgb

80 led's per header if you're curious

[brittle spindle]

3 x addressable RGB Gen2 LED strip headers

I can plug it into that?

[cyan ravine]

Yes

Gen 2 is argb

[brittle spindle]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FcCMkJ

I am looking at this list btw

I believe everything is good I don’t need any kind of splitter or anything

[cyan ravine]

Yeah so front 3 if they can chain, go onto 1 plug

Back fan goes onto another

[potent portal]

The front 3 do chain, I checked

[cyan ravine]

Tower onto the third

There you go

I would use 3 headers

[brittle spindle]

Thanks

[cyan ravine]

Or if the cable is long enough, front and back on one chain

And under 1A

(1 amp)

[brittle spindle]

Would that be 4 fans?

[cyan ravine]

Yes if the current on them isn't high

So under 0.25A or under 3W

(3 watts divided by 12 volts = 0.25A)

Sorry I might be overcomplicating lol

[brittle spindle]

Nah ur fine I remember learning this in hs 😂😂

It’s coming back

[cyan ravine]

Yeah it's easy stuff

It's convenient but only if we don't overload and melt the header so it's good to think about this

[obtuse laurel]

pc keeps randomly turning off, i just built it today, i took off my cooler reapplied thermal paste and made sure it was tightened well

whenever it turns off the rgb on my fans stay on but they won’t spin

also whenever i restart my pc the rgb on the 2 fans stays on but it won’t boot unless i turn off the psu and wait a bit.

i’m thinking it’s the cooling but i’m not sure honestly

[obsidian wigeon]

Sounds like you haven't plugged things in correctly

Take videos and pics

You have the perms to post now

[obtuse laurel]

what could be plugged in incorrectly

[obsidian wigeon]

anything

any power cables

[glacial spire]

Hey guys, I have all the components for my build. Just missing the SSD and the GPU.
Regarding to this last one, I'm quite torn between two deals I found. A 7900 GRE at €470 and a 7900 XT at €600 (both used but less than two months old).
Would you justify the €130 difference here?

My target is 1440p at max settings (possibly).
Another thing to consider is that for €600 I also found some 4070 ti. Should I even take it in consideration?
I kinda like RT but in all honesty I'm not very excited about those 12gb vram. Feels less "future proof" than the 20gb of 7900 XT or even the 16gb of GRE...

[obsidian wigeon]

I'd get the GRE

But if you can afford the XT, then by all means

Go for it

4070ti has frame gen and better rt but

Radeon also has the same feature lol

FSR 3 with frame gen, with the option of modding DLSS games to run as FSR 3

Or just enable AFMF

[mossy venture]

I'd much rather take the extra vram over the nvidia features personally

[glacial spire]

How is FSR 3 compared to DLSS? I heard it's really good but some say the quality of the image in some games lacks quite a bit.

[obsidian wigeon]

Nah, they're the same

They have their own weaknesses, but overall it's a mixed bag

[glacial spire]

I see. Thank you guys for taking the time to clear some of my doubts 🙏🏻

[mossy venture]

Fsr has less games that support it I think

But that's coming from my knowledge of a bit after it first came out

[calm dove]

Hi all

[mossy venture]

It could be more widely adopted now

Hi action man

[calm dove]

Sup

Is there a way to control fan speed if the fans are connected to the psu ?

Maybe a software ?

[obsidian wigeon]

Nah

You'd need some sort of adapter

[calm dove]

So they will work 100% all Time ?

Or Hat

[obsidian wigeon]

Yep

100% all the time

[calm dove]

Oof thats loud

[calm dove]

I have 1 system fan header on the a520 mobo

Will this support 4 fans in 1 header ?

[analog hearth]

I have like six on one header (actually, I keep mentioning this to other people. But I think my splitter has a SATA connector to help with power 💀)

[calm dove]

I will use one like this

[analog hearth]

Do you have the link to that one?

[calm dove]

Good or bad Idea ?

Name ?

[analog hearth]

A photo isn't good enough for me

[analog hearth]

bruh idk. you found the photo 💀

[calm dove]

XTRMLAB XH100 HUB

💀 good luck

[analog hearth]

Yeah it would work. I was expecting some of these 4-way splitters to have a SATA connection for power but I guess that's not common. You should be fine running a 4-way fan splitter from a single header

Crazy that your motherboard only has one fan header lol

[calm dove]

A520

I hate budget pc

[analog hearth]

gotcha lol

[calm dove]

Always something missing

[analog hearth]

Makes me want to reconfigure my fan configuration lol

I should get L Connect with an L Connect controller (I have Lian Li fans)

Man but I have like 9 fans already and I still have a bike to pay off

[calm dove]

Why do you 9 hhhhhh why ?

[analog hearth]

I have an O11 Dynamic Evo

big case brah

[calm dove]

https://tenor.com/view/gigachad-chad-gif-20773266

[static bramble]

someone help me find the best laptop specs worth for a buck for my father. he's a senior engineer. he always uses Autocad and always leaves tabs and programs open in the background basically multitasking. and his budget is 3000 aed

[calm dove]

I have the option to buy a case with auto fan speed but i dont know if it will turns loud

[analog hearth]

sounds like a scam tbh

[calm dove]

I will go with the hub and normal case

[analog hearth]

The motherboard can handle that lol

I have FanControl handling the speed of my fans lol

[calm dove]

Daaaamn ultra airflow

Nice

[analog hearth]

You can really feel the heat exhaustion coming from the side fans when you're standing next to it

[calm dove]

Now its summer 💀

[analog hearth]

I think I really want some new fans though now that I'm thinking about it. The back side of my PC is a mess and I already know which fans I want to go with to resolve that issue lol

[analog hearth]

Fr. I can stand next to my exhaust and it won't feel any different

Just hot everywhere

About to get three sets of these now lol
https://www.amazon.com/Lian-Mirror-Daisy-Chain-Design-Customizable-Controller-White-UF-SLIN120-3W/dp/B0B4SKMYJT/ref=sr_1_3

I built with them for a friend yesterday and they look sick (and they're super easy to build with)

[calm dove]

My favorite right now

Are these ring

[obsidian wigeon]

Does your dad mind shopping on newegg and using international shipping?

[calm dove]

From nzxt or bequiet

[analog hearth]

$100 at Micro Center wtf 😩

[calm dove]

Wich one ?

[analog hearth]

I think Montech makes a dual-chamber like this too if you want something a little more budget/value

[analog hearth]

#building-and-recc-chat message

Amazon link though. I just looked them up on MC's website

[calm dove]

Oh okey

[analog hearth]

These
https://www.microcenter.com/product/648741/lian-li-uni-fan-sl-infinity-fluid-dynamic-bearing-120mm-case-fan-3-pack-white

It's like I might as well go with Amazon 💀

Man now we have a black tax

Wait I could just print my own fans

lmao

[obsidian wigeon]

https://www.newegg.com/global/ae-en/performance-blue-hp-victus-15-fa1003ca-gaming/p/N82E16834841779

It's a refurb but this is as good as I can probably find

https://www.amazon.ae/Lenovo-IdeaPad-Display-R7-7735HS-Eng-Arabic/dp/B0CNT3P2HZ/ref=sr_1_54

Or go a tad over budget

[obtuse laurel]

pc keeps randomly turning off, i just built it today, i took off my cooler reapplied thermal paste and made sure it was tightened well

whenever it turns off the rgb on my fans stay on but they won’t spin
also whenever i restart my pc the rgb on the 2 fans stays on but it won’t boot unless i turn off the psu and wait a bit.

[static bramble]

probably not though but can you recommend me one?

[obsidian wigeon]

I've just sent you some links above

[stoic island]

Any bsod or no? When does it shut off?

[obtuse laurel]

it’s an overheating issue, my cpu is on 96c with a cooler on?

i’m super confused

[stoic island]

What cooler, what cpu?

[obtuse laurel]

ryzen 7 78003xd, corsair link h150i rgb

[stoic island]

Check to make sure your pump is plugged in, otherwise make sure you're using the right bracket for the socket

[obtuse laurel]

that’s the thing

corsair link doesn’t really have a pump plug

it’s like

[stoic island]

Uh

[obtuse laurel]

a daisy chained water cooling

[stoic island]

Sata power?

[obtuse laurel]

i don’t think there’s anything for me to plug in there

[stoic island]

If it uses a hub, make sure the hub has power, whether it uses SATA or something else

[obtuse laurel]

the power is plugged into the usb slot

[stoic island]

Oh apparently that uses a pcie 6 pin?

Corsair is weird

[brittle spindle]

@potent portal so I found out that the motherboard has 3Addressable LED Header, 1RGB LED Header, do both the case fans and the cooler fans need that one rgb led header?

[stoic island]

More cases and coolers nowadays use argb fans, and would use the 3 pin argb header instead of the 4 pin rgb header. They typically are able to be daisy chained too.

[stoic island]

Can you double check that the 6 pin is plugged in? It might be the reason for the temps

[obtuse laurel]

yes that’s plugged in

[brittle spindle]

Thanks

[stoic island]

Just double checking, is the Corsair link cable that connects the hub to the aio plugged in? Illustration shows it plugged in on the right but I don't see it in the pic

[weary galleon]

Looks like it might be, just with a 90° cable

[obtuse laurel]

it’s tucked away on the left side of the picture

u can see it

[dim forge]

guys

is there any diff between ps120 and ps120se?

[dusky hearth]

oh hey an ibanez guitar

[dusty cedar]

whats the average price point for a small form factor build?

[dusky hearth]

i dont see a ps120, only the se

there's an se and an evo

[dusty cedar]

just want something i can take on the semi with me for my down time when i'm not working without having to carry a full size pc around with me

[dim forge]

the box says ps120

idk

[dusky hearth]

depends on what you put in it, it can range from anything from fairly cheap, to quite expensive

idk what the cheapest sff build you could do is

[obsidian wigeon]

Maybe a laptop would be more economically viable

[dusty cedar]

im not worried about cheap but i'm not tryin to spend another 3 grand again either

[dusky hearth]

idk if there even is an average price point for any computer type, because of the range of applications and performance requirements

easier to guesstimate with performance requirements

also how small you want the case to be

[dusty cedar]

idk, lunch box sized ig

[dusky hearth]

because there are larger sfx builds, and smaller and or slimmer ones

hmm

lunch boxes kinda range quite a bit in sizes as well LMFAO

[dusty cedar]

i dont have a size in mind. idk where to even find a small case. i've seen pics on here a year or so ago

i know that isnt helpful either. i cant seem to find them in the build pics

[dusky hearth]

https://pcpartpicker.com/products/case/#xcx=0&t=9,12,10&f=8

[dim forge]

help

Where do I put these

[obsidian wigeon]

Give us a pic

[obsidian wigeon]

Read the manual first

[dim forge]

I did

[dusty cedar]

this size seems to be acceptable. maybe a lil smaller.

idk where the one i seen before went to. it was barely big enought to fit a gpu in tho
#build-pics message

[obsidian wigeon]

It looks like it threads into a screw

[dim forge]

But shouldn’t there be screws in those holes? Or do I just place them there

[obsidian wigeon]

There should be screws

[dim forge]

my mobo should have them

Right?

[obsidian wigeon]

I think it should

[stoic island]

Velka cases used to be kinda popular for some example cases
https://velkase.com/

[stoic island]

it looks like your backplate might not be there?

[dim forge]

ok forget it

[dusty cedar]

yeah i was gonna say but doin like 5 things at once right now

[dim forge]

It’s the bracket

I haven’t placed it 👺

[obsidian wigeon]

yap

[dim forge]

I haven’t placed the cooler one nor the one that comes with the mobo

[dusty cedar]

i think thats actually the case i seen on here a while ago. might go with that. micro atx board for it? never built one of these so

[stoic island]

ITX

smallest ones are flex atx psus only, bigger is sfx

[dusky hearth]

the thing you were holding was the thing to mount the cooler lmao

you put the cooler on then you screw those onto the posts

[dusty cedar]

isnt what hes holding just a standoff to mount the cooler to?

[dusky hearth]

considering the knurling, no

[dim forge]

Yep

That goes on the back right

[dusky hearth]

yes

[dim forge]

do I take the white stripes off?

[dusky hearth]

no

[dim forge]

okay

[dusty cedar]

yes. but also gonna have to unmount your mobo to get that on unless your case has enough room for you to pop it on.

[dusky hearth]

there is enough room

just look at the image

look at all that room for activities

[dim forge]

there is plenty of room

[dusty cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/step-brothers-will-ferrell-john-c-reilly-happy-excited-gif-4683941

[dim forge]

Just to make sure

Dont take the stripes odd

Off*

i am anxious bc my previous cooler broke down and I don’t want to mess this one too

I have to unscrew that right?

😭

[dusty cedar]

shouldnt have to. but also why are mobos 200+ dollars now wtf

[obsidian wigeon]

you're looking at the wrong stuff

if you're shopping for am5

all you need is a620

[dusty cedar]

oooooooo. i see. i was lookin at intel boards

[obsidian wigeon]

tbh

i don't wanna recc intel atm

unless you buy locked boards

there's been the whole cpu killing shenanigans

[crimson zinc]

What’s a solid card for maybe $150-$175?

[obsidian wigeon]

used 6600

[dusty cedar]

i was quickly reading about that a while ago. isnt that only on the newer i9 cpus though?

[obsidian wigeon]

nope

it affects every unlocked chips

on z boards specifically

13-14th gen

[dusty cedar]

well then

[obsidian wigeon]

do you have a micro center near you?

[dusty cedar]

thats super unfortunate since i have exactly that in my desktop that i'm on right now

[obsidian wigeon]

there's am5 bundles

[dusty cedar]

no. maybe i can find one when i get back out on the road again

[obsidian wigeon]

there's ways to prevent that damage

which is to update your bios and run intel ref spec

or not, if you're lazy

just set it to intel's base

[obsidian wigeon]

aw ok

[dusty cedar]

no micro centers in florida and if there are any, none that i'm gonna use my personal car to drive to lmao

[cyan ravine]

13th and 14th i7's - i9's

[obsidian wigeon]

still am5 is worth every bit of cash to buy into

[dusty cedar]

i have a 13700k on a z690

[dim forge]

I did it

[obsidian wigeon]

grats

[cyan ravine]

Yes you should check more info on this then

I know of multiple confirmed cases of dead 13700K's

[dusky hearth]

no

[dusty cedar]

do you have links on hand to articles about this?

[dusky hearth]

oh you already did it

[dim forge]

I was confuses

Bc the round thingies

[cyan ravine]

To 13700K itself? No, only forum comments

[dim forge]

Where the cooler stands

Are blue

and mine are not

[cyan ravine]

But if you want intel shenanigan articles check #cpus-mobo-and-memory

There's a few in there

[dim forge]

So I just figured out that if It tightens then it’s where it’s supposed to be 😭

[cyan ravine]

The dead 13700K's are all from people chiming in and reporting over time from places like OC.net

[dusty cedar]

ill have to try and remember to skim though later then. i'm pretty pressed for time to get other things done

[cyan ravine]

As long as you remember to follow spec in the intel sheet then you'll be fine

Hell even a mild undervolt may well be enough tbh as long as you avoid sustained multithread

The key takes are current voltage and temperature

[dim forge]

that’s a good amt right?

[cyan ravine]

For a 12100F that's basically waterboarding

[dim forge]

wait i mounted the thing wronf

[dim forge]

Is that bad?

[cyan ravine]

It's almost too much

Which is never bad

[dim forge]

The screws aint tightening

shoukd I worry

[cyan ravine]

Did you take the screws out of the mounting bracket holes

[dim forge]

those tiny screws?

nope

[cyan ravine]

[dim forge]

I gotta take those off?

[cyan ravine]

I would think so yeah

[dim forge]

this is so confusing bx the damn manual has this picture

These have holes so it should crew

screw

[cyan ravine]

Yes

You were screwing those in right

WAIT

Is it a screw or a grubber

[dim forge]

idk

I’m not familiar

But they tightened

I placed them outside of the screws

[cyan ravine]

It's tightening now?

[dim forge]

so I took it off and placed them agaun

Yep

Should I keep tightening until it doesn’t move?

Or how much is enough

[cyan ravine]

Yes tighten until no move

[dim forge]

Alright it’s tight

Time to place the fans

[lone flame]

what brand of cooler is that? i like how it looks

[dim forge]

Is this a problem

It came like this

[cyan ravine]

Those can be

Pins get bent

If you're a careful boi - no

[dim forge]

it wont work if it misses one pin?

[cyan ravine]

Nope

[dim forge]

well

I’m screwed then

Bc it came with 3 pinsinstead of 4

::

what do i do now

[cyan ravine]

Eh

No it's not missing a pin

Lmao

[dim forge]

i am dumb?

[cyan ravine]

It's meant to have 3

[dim forge]

[cyan ravine]

💀

[dim forge]

the other one has 4

[cyan ravine]

Yes the second one in a splitter will only have 3

[dim forge]

ohhh

Why the diff?

[cyan ravine]

Second third fourth fifth

Ah man it's 5am I can't remember atm

[dim forge]

lol

Okay ty

[cyan ravine]

But it basically makes zero difference

[dim forge]

I was abt to colapse

Collapse

[cyan ravine]

LOL

[dim forge]

I’ve been waiting for the package to arribe a whole week

My i3 was running 100C on league

[cyan ravine]

2nd most abused i3 in history

[dim forge]

yeah

Luckily it had no heat marks

and I live in a city with 15c avg temp

[dim forge]

Looks cute

[dim forge]

Thermalright ps120

[dim forge]

this is beautiful

going from 55-60 idle to 25-30

is crazy

[dusky hearth]

WAKE UP
it's the tachometer

2 pins for power, 1 pin for tach, and 4th pin is for pwm

[lone flame]

https://tenor.com/view/sleep-sleeping-cat-eepy-cat-eepy-kitty-gif-11184483905395278742

felix rn

[crimson zinc]

6600xt*****

[obtuse laurel]

whenever i download a game my cpu temp shoots from 65 degrees c to 85-91 degrees c.. anyone know why exactly??

[dusky hearth]

new build?

[obtuse laurel]

yes

made it yesterday

[dusky hearth]

possibly a bad cooler mount

i dont think it's missing thermal paste at least, and also probably not a plastic cover still on the plate? this sounds like a bad cooler mount

to resolve this, take off the cooler, check if there's a plastic piece on the coldplate, and if there isnt, put it back on and fasten the screws evenly

also make sure there is good thermal paste coverage

if you have extra thermal paste, i'd recommend adding some more, a day old build shouldnt really need you to clean off the old paste

[dim forge]

which rgb software do u recommend

[cyan ravine]

openrgb

[dim forge]

would my corsair keyboard work without icue?

icue consumes way too many resources for no reason

same as msi center

[dusky hearth]

try to find out

i'd assume so

[cyan ravine]

If it has onboard memory yes

[dim forge]

it works with openrgb

[cyan ravine]

i.e runs your buttons without icue open

[dim forge]

ty ty

my fans dont work tho

[cyan ravine]

Might need a custom profile or smthn

You can also just remove msi center after programming with mystic light in my experience

It won't remove the rgb service or shouldn't

[dim forge]

weird

fans rgb dont turn on

[cyan ravine]

Mmm could be msi center conflicting

My unify did that a lot

[dim forge]

I uninstalled it long ago

I will restart and try again

[hearty oracle]

anyone know good usb fans? i want to create an "air stream" for my my server area, and i have a usb outlet next to it

[dusky hearth]

wdym by this

[hearty oracle]

instead of plugging computer fans into my computer, pluggint them in to converter or just already be set up for usb usage

[dusky hearth]

i mean the "air stream? part

[hearty oracle]

suck in air from one area and pushing out another

[dusky hearth]

usb cant provide enough power for any fan of substance

[hearty oracle]

sorry if used the wrong terms

[dusky hearth]

well, yeah, i know what a fan does, but what are you trying to achieve with this exactly

[hearty oracle]

bummer, i dont wanna use bigger fans. but i have an area with electronics i wish to have the fans help cool

[dusky hearth]

how hot are the devices? usually convection should be enough for low wattage like, IoT devices
things with more wattage draw will require something of more substance like a few pc fans to pull fresh air in or pull hot air out of the room, or a larger fan, like an inline duct fan or something, plus the fans on the devices themselves
and a large heat output may require a heat pump

you could get a usb step up converter to 12v with a fan headser on it, so you can power a pc fan with it, but i dont think those can power more than 1 fan per usb due to power draw?

assuming the usb "outlet" has the standard 5vdc 1.5a output, that would be 0.63a assuming no losses in the boost conversion (which is never the case)

[hearty oracle]

hmm i guess ill have to look at something else then. i wanted something constant. since im not at my home that much to overlook it.

[dusky hearth]

so yeah 1 fan

you can get a 12v power supply that can do a few amps, and connect a fan cable to it, so you can connect a few pc fans

but i dont really think there's a good solution for using usb to power a fan for cooling your electronics

[muted shore]

Can this be improved

I7 14700k
Msi z790
4070 super
Crucial p3 plus 500gb
Cooler master masterliquid 240l
Corsair RM750e ATX 3.0 750w 80 plus gold

Corsair vengeance 16gb X2 ddr5

[obsidian wigeon]

are you already owning that

[muted shore]

No

Thinking of buying this

2400 budget

Usd

[crimson zinc]

I would suggest against a good bit of it

[muted shore]

Please suggest any improvement

[coarse python]

this sounds like a 4080super build if some fat can be removed

[muted shore]

Fat :pepehmmm:

:pepehmmm:

Nah 4080 super is like 1200 usd for me

[pseudo pollen]

exactly

can almost fit a 4090 into that budget lol https://pcpartpicker.com/list/j8vx34

idk how i'd like that psu+4090 combo but it might work

4080 super list instead https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bFMNCd

with appropriately sized mobo https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xffBVW

[mossy venture]

4080 super fits in $1800-2000

Let alone 2400

[mossy venture]

Solid list

Eagle ax was $140 last I saw

And I'd spend extra $5 for bfg 850

[pseudo pollen]

so something like this? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WhpsGP

[mossy venture]

Nice

[cyan ravine]

Yooooooo

[pseudo pollen]

slightly different 4090 list https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KfYGCd

[cyan ravine]

Lowest for those two chips is about 2455

With wifi it's 2460

[pseudo pollen]

not bad at all

then again it's 2500 basically

[cyan ravine]

I would say stretching 2.5% is still within budget

For 25% more gpu

Or really if they could wait for best buy to drop one at msrp it's under 2400

I'll leave this for reference, not recommending as the ram is without xmp
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PfKmsh

[muted shore]

I wish it was for me

Hmm ig 4080 can fit in

[muted shore]

Looks good

[pseudo pollen]

Let me know if you want something changed

[muted shore]

I have the ssds so I won't be needing that

I was wondering if 4090 is good enough

I find 3080 just got smashed by 4080

4090 for me is 2400usd itself

So won't be getting that

[jagged ember]

There's nothing more powerful than the 4090 in consumer space

For now, until 5000 series comes out

[analog hearth]

imma upgrade to a 5000 series when that drops

"But Nvidia is expensive" yeah but my friends all have 4080 Supers and I'm stuck on a 4070 Super

[languid nimbus]

yeah same on 5000 series

or hell maybe amd this time around

according to rumors theyre gonna leave nvidia in the dust this next time around but idk

[jagged ember]

We'll have to see if AMD decides to compete harder now that nvidia is putting less focus on the gaming front

[wide sparrow]

@crimson zinc whats the app to manage gear?

[crimson zinc]

Destiny Item Manager.
DIM for short

Wrong chat btw

[jagged ember]

lmao

I mean, you are doing a destiny build

[crimson zinc]

This is true

[wide sparrow]

HE GETS IT

[crimson zinc]

@ admin
Make a d2 chat named “build chat 2” thanks

[jagged ember]

Destiny Build Chat 2

[muted shore]

so ig ill go for 4080 super

thanks guys

would be great if i could get some recommendations for 4k oled desktop

display

[potent portal]

My recommendation for that is simple. Don't.
4k is in a weird place right now where only the 4090 is powerful enough to push high refresh 4k but it doesn't have the physical bandwidth required to do so without compression. Neither do most 4k monitors for that matter.
Additionally, the cheaper 4k OLEDs in particular are more what I'd consider small TVs in size, 40 inches plus. Not ideal for PC gaming.

An ultrawide monitor would be my suggestion here.
https://pcpartpicker.com/products/compare/wywypg,Zv3NnQ,CtBzK8,FFLdnQ

[muted shore]

I need one to work

I have a display but that's 55inches

Too big to work with

How about a 1080p good one

[mossy venture]

1440p is the way to go 100%

What size do you want

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kQz3TY

[muted shore]

i was thinking anything over 24 inches

upto 32

dont care about refresh rate

[dusky hearth]

1440 is best on 27”

[muted shore]

hows GIGABYTE G27Q comapred to others in the list

thinking of a dual screen setup or more

also do screens exist without Blacklight bleed ?

[muted shore]

oh thats no oled

[dusky hearth]

[muted shore]

IPS huh

[dusky hearth]

mhm

[muted shore]

Oled seems way better after using it

IPS feels faded

Any good screen that i can use as dual setup OLED display preferably

[mossy venture]

Good

I would consider it the starting basis for monitors atp

[mossy venture]

I linked multiple Oleds in there

[mossy venture]

I linked multiple Oleds in there

There's also
https://www.amazon.com/KTC-Monitor-Speakers-FreeSync-DisplayPort1-4/dp/B0CF2FD5P4/ref=mp_s_a_1_2_sspa?

[muted shore]

Sadly oleds not available for me

The ones u listed

[mossy venture]

Not in the US?

[muted shore]

No

[mossy venture]

Any oled is fine pretty much

[muted shore]

Unless they're exceptionally good i can get them imported

[mossy venture]

There's very few oled panels and they're all so comparable it doesn't make much of a difference

[muted shore]

I see

Seem Expensive

Anyways thanks for the help

[dusky hearth]

https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/dell/g2724d

https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/dell/s2721qs not much backlight bleed on this one

[crimson zinc]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KQ9MkJ
Can someone optimize this?
They already have the 3070ti

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/stfWh3

Not an amazing psu, but not horrible

C tier

$30 more for a good quality 750
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Yp9wrH/be-quiet-pure-power-12-m-750-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-bn504

[crimson zinc]

I got sent it from marketplace and was asked if I could trim it down and keep same-ish level of performance while lowering cost

But average Bacca W
Literally saving money in seconds

[mossy venture]

I mean?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Pw2dRK

That's the cheapest I'd bring it

[crimson zinc]

Is a 750 the lowest safe power supply?

[restive halo]

Any sub $100 power supply's right now that are worth it? Needs to power 5600g and a decent gpu later nother crazy

[mossy venture]

It's the cheapest I'd trust with a 3070 ti imo, but lemme check newegg combo deals

[mossy venture]

Be quiet 750w pure power 12m or bfg 850

[restive halo]

Amazon or Newegg

[crimson zinc]

Thank you:D

[mossy venture]

Does ram have to be white

[mossy venture]

@restive halo

[crimson zinc]

No, just wanted RGB if it was available
I don’t believe he’ll care if it’s not

[mossy venture]

I gotchu with a sick price drop

[crimson zinc]

Bet?

[mossy venture]

Lemme put the list together

[crimson zinc]

You got it dude

[restive halo]

Nice. Got it thanks.

[mossy venture]

Every $0 price is included in the motherboards price tag, it's all with newegg combo up savings
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YyCx34

You can swap ram to one of the rgb teamgroup kits for a bit more

[crimson zinc]

How long do those combos work for?

[mossy venture]

Not sure

They change fairly often but odds are there'll be something going on when the builds being bought, if the sale is still a thing

[crimson zinc]

Probably
Dude gets paid next week
I assume he’s buying it then

[mossy venture]

Also I got the build $5 cheaper

Select the 7600 with the other parts on newegg combo builder and it saves another $5

[crimson zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/save-dat-money-save-money-little-dicky-gif-26632829

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/k7xzDZ

This is pretty cheap rn too
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/JMTZxr/corsair-3000d-airflow-atx-mid-tower-case-cc-9011252-ww

Better quality case, no rgb but can always add fans

[crimson zinc]

Maybe I should look into Newegg build when I can finally afford one

[tawdry vault]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/D4sdRK
How is this as a first time ITX build?

[crimson zinc]

Well

I can tell you one thing

Over spending

[tawdry vault]

i mean ITX builds are expensive, can'tt help there

[potent portal]

The stock cooler works fine, definitely no need to spend $65

The monitor is also way overpriced, it used to be a good option but there's $200 ones that are just as good now

No reason to get a Samsung 970, you can get a 2TB drive for that price

[potent portal]

Here's how I'd build it. You get a better GPU, more storage capacity, stronger PSU... and it's still cheaper.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rkWggB

[cyan ravine]

I can make it smaller, faster and quieter

*cracks knuckles *

[potent portal]

https://tenor.com/view/daftpunk-harder-better-faster-stronger-gif-11845009

[cyan ravine]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rsMzDZ
https://www.newegg.com/p/11-197-020?Item=11-197-020&cm_sp=product-_-from-price-options
Pick white.

[tawdry vault]

Okay, I like this. But would a fractal terra go with the components?

[cyan ravine]

IM01 is smaller than NR200P and also has a glass attachment if you want that

[crimson zinc]

Fractal Terra always goes with components

[tawdry vault]

wait micro atx case is smaller than a itx one? wtf

[cyan ravine]

Mhm

[tawdry vault]

damn

[cyan ravine]

NR200P is HUGE by ITX standards

IM01 is 21.9L

[tawdry vault]

abandoning NR200 than lmao

[cyan ravine]

Oh mb the NR200p is a bit smaller in volume

20.3L

But IRL they are the same size basically

[tawdry vault]

whatever, it lost my interest XD

[cyan ravine]

Lol

[tawdry vault]

gonna go with terra or IM01

[cyan ravine]

Hey I mean, About 300 short of the highest end with the list I came up with lol

You could technically fit an XTX in this

[tawdry vault]

[cyan ravine]

And the 2nd cheapest XTX fits lol

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NQL8N6

Getting a bit toasty for an IM01 tho but it's just fine lol

[potent portal]

Welcome to the wonderful world of marketing

[cyan ravine]

Terra is a really nice case tbh, but it's also overwhelmingly small

You're playing to a lot of limits if you went that route

[crimson zinc]

Pop airs are always fine smaller cases

[tawny violet]

Is putting a 7900 XTX in a 4000D reasonable-ish?

7700 and 7900 XTX combo

[coarse python]

It's a fairly large case why would it be unreasonable

[deft lava]

I'm going to build my pc pretty soon and I wanted to know if this build would be any good ?(coreliquid 240r, 32 gigs of ram and the 1tb ssd, 3060 12gb , ryzen 5500, cooler master TD300 case, MSI MAG A650BN Gaming Power Supply, MSI B550M PRO-VDH WiFi ProSeries Motherboard)It's my first build with a little help of my sister who's built some before! any help would be appreciated before I make sure I actually buy the parts 🙏

[weary galleon]

Drop a budget and any asthetic preferences and people can make you a list

[lone flame]

if you can put all those into a pcpart picker list, chances are whoever helps you will use that

i dont know enough to

[stoic island]

Any of that used or refurb? A bit weird in terms of the choices

And what country?

[deft lava]

On pc part picker it says that I may need to update BIOS but idk how hard that is 😭 I’m really new to all this

[deft lava]

No all on Amazon and U.S.

[deft lava]

But it says they are all compatible

[mossy venture]

I would suggest changing most of this

What is your budget

[pseudo pollen]

comepletely reasonable

[deft lava]

It’s a bit complicated because I have 3 parts already because my sister bought me them 😂 the parts are the cooler, the ram, and the ssd but if I had a budget it’s be probably around like 675$ to buy the rest

[mossy venture]

Ok I can work with that. Give me a few min

[tawny violet]

I meant spending-wise

[mossy venture]

If she can cancel the cpu order I would

[deft lava]

Oh ok thanks ! 🙏

[tawny violet]

In the sense that it's not too little or too much spent on the case for a build of that caliber

[mossy venture]

The 5600 is like 15% better and only $20-30 more

[pseudo pollen]

for most lists we put whatever's cheapest but still not bad, for the case it doesn't really matter whatsoever

[mossy venture]

Also, for the cooler

Do you want an aio? It's pretty expensive for no benefit

[weary galleon]

Already bought sounds like

[pseudo pollen]

you could put it outside on some rocks and it'd still work, the case is just an enclosure so whatever you choose it won't change much

[mossy venture]

Only three parts

[crimson zinc]

(I brought @deft lava from Facebook)

[mossy venture]

They don't have the cooler yet

[crimson zinc]

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KDDtGP

[pseudo pollen]

4000d is a very reasonably priced case, and pretty average in terms of prices for cases, if not a bit more expensive for what it is

[weary galleon]

I have 3 parts already because my sister bought me them 😂 the parts are the cooler, the ram, and the ssd

[stoic island]

Thought they said cooler ram and SSD are already bought

[mossy venture]

@deft lava

[mossy venture]

Wait wat

[deft lava]

It is

[tawny violet]

It's like a 1500 dollar rig here, so I think dropping 80 on a case and 30 on fans is reasonable enough

[mossy venture]

I read cooler as cpu

I'm going crazy

OK that's easier

Let me fix the list

[pseudo pollen]

we put 2400 builds into a $60 cases

[mossy venture]

Well here's the first option
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CH6CYN

[tawny violet]

At least the 4000D is a known solid performer that's not going to give me too many headaches on the build

[pseudo pollen]

for sure, it also looks pretty good as far as cases go

[crimson zinc]

I’d honestly suggest the Montech 903 over the 4000D now

[mossy venture]

And cheaper
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yvgVpB

[tawny violet]

I know why
But the 903 is OOS everywhere

Even the basic one

[pseudo pollen]

that or the phanteks xt pro thing

[tawny violet]

It basically disappeared

[tawny violet]

Isn't that the very new one?

[crimson zinc]

Me with the p360a

[pseudo pollen]

it's in most of the lists that are being sent in this server

[tawny violet]

Yeah those are not yet sold anywhere for me

[deft lava]

In your opinion which one should I get ?

[tawny violet]

(Hungary has like 2 or 3 months delays for new hardware)

[pseudo pollen]

ah you're in hungary

[tawny violet]

At least with stuff like cases and so on

[tawny violet]

Yeah that tamps my available choices a little

[pseudo pollen]

that sucks

[mossy venture]

First has better upgradability, 10% better gpu, and more vram on the gpu which is nice for 1440p, and will be useful down the line for higher texture settings

[tawny violet]

Again, the 4000D is a known quality, it's not egregiously expensive, it won't have nasty hidden surprises when building and it has good airflow

903 coming back in stock is better but I fear they won't come back

[stoic island]

btw why not b550m pro vdh wifi if the difference is just 4$ and you get better usb connectivity?

[mossy venture]

Oh fair

[stoic island]

and would make the usb-c port usable on the front

[mossy venture]

Didn't see it was that cheap

4000d is just so bland and overpriced

Comes with two fans meanwhile is still $80-100

[tawny violet]

It's 75 dollars converted IIRC

[mossy venture]

Mx330 and it's variants are $45-65 and match that lmao

[obsidian wigeon]

i prefer 3000d

[mossy venture]

In the end it's your money, do what you want

[deft lava]

So should I go with b550 motherboard instead ?

[tawny violet]

It's got more to do with it being known and present

Sure it's not ideal but it's definitely not terrible

[crimson zinc]

Let @mossy venture fix the list

I would also suggest to use eBay for used deals

[deft lava]

Ok 👌 thanks for the help 🙏

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9XCNCd

There is another route though, with the newegg combo builder

You could get a build that's nearly identically priced but with a 5700x if your sister can cancel the ram order

The 5700x is $170, and then comes with a free 32gb kit of ram, and you can bundle it with a motherboard and psu to get better prices overall

I can put a bundle together and price it out to show you

[deft lava]

I have the ram the ssd and cooler like I physically have them I can’t do anything which is what Im saying 😭

[mossy venture]

Ah alr

[deft lava]

Sorry if I’m being complicated 😅

[mossy venture]

No you're good

You can do a diff combo though

One sec

$230 for 12400f, b660m pro rs, and msi 750w abn pcie 5.0

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zyDtGP

[deft lava]

I thought that intel CPUs were like less powerful for gaming compared to ryzen CPUs ?

Also if you don’t mind me asking why is the 6750 xt 165$ on Amazon and 300$ on Newegg ? 😭

[mossy venture]

Nope

[mossy venture]

The amazon price is a scam seller

12400f is a tiny bit better than the 5600, they perform basically identically

There's just a really good sale with that 12400f, mobo and psu rn

[deft lava]

Ohhhh ok ok

So are rx gpus better than nividia gpus ?

[stoic island]

Currently they offer better rasterization performance for the price.

[mossy venture]

Far better value until you hit 4070 super/7900 gre

[deft lava]

Ok thanks 🙏 also I found the reason gpu is like the normal high price it’s because it’s on sale rn 😭

[mossy venture]

?

What?

If you mean the super cheap 6750xt on amazon its fake

Look at the sellers page

[coarse python]

no it is still over a 70$ case

not exactly a cheap case

https://pcpartpicker.com/b/psQD4D

people do 4090 builds with it btw @tawny violet

[coarse python]

4090 in a corsair 4000d (not my pic)

[crimson zinc]

It’s just looks so plain

[brittle tinsel]

Buddies gpu died and he needs a new one. He would prefer GTX or RTX but they are pretty pricy.
His budget can go as high as about $500 AU$. I hate amd GPUs with a passion so I dont keep up with them. is the radeon 6600 eagle any good?

[mossy venture]

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/rh7scf/gigabyte-gaming-oc-radeon-rx-7600-xt-8-gb-video-card-gv-r76gaming-oc-8gd

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/NDvdnQ/xfx-radeon-rx-6650-xt-8-gb-speedster-swft-210-core-video-card-rx-665x8dfdy

6750xt is also right at $502

[brittle tinsel]

He said on gpu.userbenchmark that the 4060 eagle has a way higher score for gaming, desktop and workstation and he can get a 4060 for the same price as the 7600 right now

[mossy venture]

ubm is complete ass

?ubm

[jolly river]

`UserBenchmark is NOT a reliable source of information and has been blanket banned in many hardware communities such as r/hardware and r/intel for what started as an anti-AMD bias but has spiraled into delusion.

In fact, they tried so hard to skew results in favor of Intel's midrange that they even cannibalized Intel's own high end. For example, according to UserBenchmark, the i3-9350K is rated higher than the i9-10980XE.

For a similarly convenient quick-and-dirty hardware comparison website, we recommend using PassMark instead of UserBenchmark.

PassMark CPU comparison: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/singleCompare.php
PassMark GPU comparison: https://www.videocardbenchmark.net/singleCompare.php
Want to know more?: https://youtu.be/RQSBj2LKkWg`

[mossy venture]

4060 matches the 3060 12gb and slightly surpasses the 6600

[brittle tinsel]

thank you, I passed the information along.

So the issue he is having is that he woke up and turned his pc on and it wont display on the monitor.
Him and someone else determined the card to be the issue but my brother had the same exact issues and it ended up not being the gpu and we fixed it without any new parts needed.
We had igpu to determine the gpu wasnt the issue. How do we figure out if the gpu is good or bad without access to another system or igpu?

[stoic island]

can't check the GPU any other way if there's no display, but you can check for other possible problems inside without knowing if GPU is working or not

[crimson zinc]

@deft lava those Facebook groups tend to be full of just not very smart people who try to suggest very outdated/overpriced stuff.

Which is why I reached out to invite you here in the first place.
People here know their stuff.

And if they don’t, they consult others instead of bullying each other

[brittle spindle]

U mean clean?

[crimson zinc]

No
Boring, plain, not interesting, other synonyms for boring

[tawny violet]

Honestly I'd say it's understated in styling

Sure on price you're probably right, but I personally like how it looks

Doesn't immediately scream "GaMeR" in your face

Holy crap the 4000D Airflow is actually cheaper than the 3000D

wth

[dusky hearth]

tbh i wouldnt consider it clean, considering the wiring and how the tubing is
and with the gpu slightly too big so there is only 2 front fans lmao

[tawny violet]

I think they meant the exterior

[dusky hearth]

idk

[tawny violet]

I for one really like how the 4000D looks

and I know it's not gonna drive me insane in building

The sad thing is that most of the known good cases are about the same price as a 4000D, and none of the cheap good cases are available here

[tawny violet]

do you know what 4090 that is?

[coarse python]

Tuf

[tawny violet]

weird

Corsair says the 4000D "Fits GPUs under 340mm with front-mounted AIO and any GPU with top-mounted AIO up to 360mm"
4090 TUF is 326mm according to Asus

Something does not compute

Unless they have a front AIO and extra thicc fans

[cyan ravine]

Yep

I wouldn't really bother with a 4000D imo

So many other options that trump it these days

[tawny violet]

then what would you recommend instead knowing that many of the new stuff is just not available here

[cyan ravine]

Jonsbo D41

[tawny violet]

the black ones are all gone already

With or without screen

[cyan ravine]

Wait for restock

D41 has so much more potential

Or go D31

Ap201

[lone flame]

felix

[cyan ravine]

Montech sky two

Hi it felix

[lone flame]

hi it felix it gavin

[tawny violet]

AP201
Now that is new

[lone flame]

i think i am going on a trip to microcenter this weekend with @iron dove

[cyan ravine]

Oooo

[lone flame]

might get a H6 if they have it

[cyan ravine]

Get mag fan XFX

[lone flame]

https://tenor.com/view/wallet-penacony-honkai-star-rail-clockie-no-money-gif-14673244072619990643

nah but i dont have a need for one with my 6950 xt lol

[cyan ravine]

Not for you

For me

[tawny violet]

Trade it in lmao

[cyan ravine]

[lone flame]

is it not available is AUS

or you also dont want to buy one lol

[cyan ravine]

Who said anything about it being available

[lone flame]

https://tenor.com/view/pick-me-blake-shelton-the-voice-choose-me-over-here-gif-16888083

[cyan ravine]

Idk wat ur talking about

[lone flame]

💀

the mag xfx cards

are they not available in aussie for you to get

[cyan ravine]

Huh I just want the fans

I didn't say card

[lone flame]

i forgot you own a 4090 and a xtx

send xfx a very nice email asking for some and maybe you will get lucky

[cyan ravine]

Ima put the fans in cages and make my pc out of xfx

[lone flame]

LOL

ill hold you to that

[cyan ravine]

BRING ME XFX FANS AND I WILL

[lone flame]

https://tenor.com/view/charlie-day-gif-18564553

felix about to make an xfx case

whats the closest you can get to a full brand pc

[cyan ravine]

Uh

[tawny violet]

Probably MSI

[lone flame]

one that makes a mobo, gpu, fans etc

[cyan ravine]

asus or msi yeah

[tawny violet]

aSUS

[lone flame]

i love asus

[cyan ravine]

Oh and biostar

[lone flame]

i love quality customer support!!!

[tawny violet]

rofl

[lone flame]

never heard of it

[tawny violet]

they appear to be mostly NA

[cyan ravine]

It's 2024 and their motherboards still don't know what 13th gen is

Yes I'm serious

[tawny violet]

lol

Okay I lied @cyan ravine https://ipon.hu/shop/termek/biostar-z790-valkyrie-ver-50/2256534

it's SOOOOO EXPENSIVE though

[cyan ravine]

Yeah it doesn't know what 13th gen is

[tawny violet]

wat

[lone flame]

clean looking board tho

[cyan ravine]

https://www.overclock.net/threads/biostar-z690a-valkyrie-review.1803465/

[tawny violet]

I mean, it also doesn't know 13th gen degradation then

[tawny violet]

v5.0 does

[cyan ravine]

You'd think so and yes it does read them but read the post about the 690 lmao

[tawny violet]

well this is the Z790 version

[cyan ravine]

Brother it sets 12th gen clocks to 13th gen chips

You can't set higher clock values it doesn't know what that is

They all use the same uefi LOL

Biostar is hilarious

Everywhere you look they have mid options

[tawny violet]

apparently they used to be pretty good back in the AM2 era

[cyan ravine]

You can get a biostar XTX, Biostar Z board, Biostar aio

Biostar ssd

The ssd's suck too

I believe they have ram

No idea about psu

No case

Sadge

Welp

HEADPHONES

Oh no they do make cases'

Ooo

[lone flame]

a biostar xtx?

[cyan ravine]

Yep

[lone flame]

never seen it

[cyan ravine]

You know MBA cards

[lone flame]

no

i dont

[cyan ravine]

MBA (AMD.com shipped) is biostar

[lone flame]

i am not pc smart at all

[cyan ravine]

They failed at making them too

The whole vapour chamber scandal was biostar forgetting to put vapour in the chamber

[lone flame]

this is going in one ear out the other

[cyan ravine]

I mean it doesn't really matter anyway cos biostar is rubbish enough

No benefit to remembering this

[lone flame]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-write-that-down-xox-gif-8186437

[potent portal]

Some were underfilled and others were overfilled 💀
So it wasn't even consistent with the issues, some cards would be fine horizontal and die vertical while others would do the opposite.

[cyan ravine]

I don't even know how you manage that on such a scale tho

[jagged ember]

Just like the PS5

except they didn't seal it properly

[cyan ravine]

That's at least more realistic

As frankly liquid metal always ends badly

See: Any asus zephyrus in the last 4 years

[jagged ember]

kekw

[tawny violet]

do the Flow X13s use liquid metal?

[obsidian wigeon]

Yes

They do

[tawny violet]

Has there been issues with those?

[obsidian wigeon]

Not yet

But I bet they will

Liquid metal is a bad idea in something that constantly moves around

[jagged ember]

It's already bad even for a console so

[obsidian wigeon]

Instead of making better cooling solution

You add liquid metal as a cheap way

Still cheaper to take more steps to apply liquid metal safely than engineering

I wouldn't even complain if the zephs had U skus

Makes enough sense

And asus could just feed it more power under load

[potent portal]

The issues with the PS5 are because of the vertical orientation. Liquid metal flows down. It wouldn't be nearly as bad if the console were horizontal. There would still be hotspot issues after a bit but not as much pooling.

[tawny violet]

The thing with the Flow X13 is that it basically needs to be in tent mode to not get choked on cooling

or on a stand

so liquid metal is probably gonna be a problem later

the problem is that it's probably not super easy to replace it in something like the X13 (but at least only the CPU is liquid metal cooled)

and that a 2in1 that has a decent CPU costs about as much as the X13 anyway

Spectre x360 14 MIGHT match it with an eGPU but by that point you're already blowing the budget out

The problem with the Spectres is that the CPUs have such crap namings that you can't tell which is better

Lenovo ThinkPad L13 Yoga G4 (Ryzen 7 Pro 7730U, 1920 x 1200 60hz IPS, 32 GB memory, 1tb SSD, iGPU) seems pretty good

[tawny violet]

though it's already priced very close to the X13

[muted shore]

Hey guys

Wondering if this is cool

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1123289927250083871/1253391791084933160/image.png?ex=6675af91&is=66745e11&hm=82f79dd88cea199e962c6aa48728588ac8773c6d5779ff3d293389589781fdac&

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1123289927250083871/1253392214961160263/Screenshot_2024-06-20-22-22-58-036_com.discord-edit.jpg?ex=6675aff6&is=66745e76&hm=28b3c398667cafa5ef74b1327ebd442a49113d365b29c7f1b3c08bc8e9787c21&

pls dont tell me there are two version fo this psu

and i end up with a lower f tier psu or sumthing

[stoic island]

All in inr right? A lot of it can be cheaper if you're buying everything separately

[muted shore]

yes separately

just wanna know if this is gud compatble

[stoic island]

For example, you can save 7000inr with a different 4070 super
https://www.vedantcomputers.com/pc-components/graphics-cards/gpu/gigabyte-geforce-rtx-4070-super-windforce-oc-12gb-gddr6x-gv-n407swf3oc-12gd?limit=100

I would advise not getting 2 separate 16gb sticks and just getting one kit of 2x16 to avoid having different dies, although it's not a big problem for ddr5 yet

Can save 12000inr with a cheaper board
https://www.vedantcomputers.com/pc-components/motherboard/gigabyte-b650-eagle-ax-motherboard?limit=100

[muted shore]

oh thabnk

thanks

as for the dies i dont thinkill have much problem

[stoic island]

Can get a better aio for the price
https://tlggaming.com/deepcool-gammaxx-le520-argb-black?limit=100

[muted shore]

is there any gud with the board i pciked

[stoic island]

?

I'd go with the much cheaper board because you don't really lose much

Still has wifi, all of them have good enough vrms, all have enough connectivity

For half the price

[muted shore]

i see

[lone flame]

how can I limit fps on a game that doesnt have a setting for it

i dont need 550 fps

[muted shore]

im concerend about the psu tho

is it gud enough

[stoic island]

I would use some of the money you save by doing that to quadruple your storage space by grabbing something like this
https://www.pcstudio.in/product/wd-blue-sn580-2tb-nvme-m-2-internal-ssd/

[stoic island]

Through Nvidia control panel or adrenaline and set a frame cap there, or by just using v sync

[stoic island]

RMe is good

[muted shore]

i already have a ssd btw so i dont need it

alright

i hope it doesnt have two vversions

[stoic island]

I just thought 500gb sounded very low for a new build

[stoic island]

All the RMe versions I know of are good

[muted shore]

yeah

[muted shore]

i see

so are these specs gud then

will i have to yap about them in a year that my minecraft isnt running or something?

[stoic island]

RMe doesn't have a high failure rate if that's what you're talking about?

[muted shore]

i mean overall specs

2-3 years atleast

[stoic island]

Should be fine

You always have warranty if something fails

[muted shore]

eh that dont work here

only on aamzon can i break things make vid make money and send back saying it was broken

anyways thanks for the help

will keep u updated on build

[stoic island]

You still have manufacturer warranty, you might not have warranty from the storefront but the manufacturer should still provide repairs

So no refunds but you can get replacement/repair while still under the warranty period

[muted shore]

I see

Well it should be good

Btw I was wondering

What's the best specs in the market rn

I9 14gen 4090?

Like a normal build

Not like two gpus, open loop cooling or something

[stoic island]

For gaming, prob 7950x3d and 4090 for now

[muted shore]

I see

Thanks a lot again

Bless ya

I'll keep in touch

Oh also

Almost forgot