building-and-recc-chat

[mossy venture]

Budget?

[upper sorrel]

None

I'm going to get parts over time

[polar zenith]

Personally, I would not

I would save and buy all at once

I know bacca thinks this to

[mossy venture]

I would recommend making a set budget, saving, and buying at once

You won't be able to use any of it until you buy all of them anyways

Prices and availability also fluctuate a lot

[upper sorrel]

I understand that. I'm getting them with each paycheck

[mossy venture]

If a part is DOA, you won't be able to test it until you have all of them

And prices will likely come down by the time you have all of the parts

But if you really want alright give me a few minutes

Do you need wifi on the motherboard?

[upper sorrel]

Yes

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cpMtkJ

[upper sorrel]

Looks good, but i would like to add an additional gpu down the road

[mossy venture]

What power supply is in the build

[upper sorrel]

650 for now

[mossy venture]

Model?

There's a good few psus, especially considering how old the pc is, that aren't safe for modern gpus

[upper sorrel]

Corsair something. And since I'm looking at your build, I might be able to use this until I can get bigger builds. I Did not think about this.

[mossy venture]

Wdym?

Also, would it happen to be corsair hxi or axi?

If not, possibly rm/rmx, or cxf?

[upper sorrel]

Can't recall, I'll have to check in a bit.

[mossy venture]

When you have the chance to check you could ping me so I can let you know if it's alright or not. Any general idea of what to spend for the gpu?

[upper sorrel]

It might be the tx

Just looked at a picture online and recalled it, definitely a tx650

[mossy venture]

Ah alright

It's decent, but old

2014 if I remember

[upper sorrel]

Should survive long enough until I get a new psu.

[mossy venture]

Depends on what gpu you go for

[upper sorrel]

What I can do until I get a new gpu is use my xfx radeon 580

From my current rig

[mossy venture]

I'm really unsure of it, id have to check with someone else before I'd feel safe saying it would be fine with certain gpus

@cyan ravine if you're available, how's 2014 corsair TX you think?

[mossy venture]

Yeah thats 100% fine

Well, any idea of budget for gpu?

Also, do you have a 1440p monitor?

[upper sorrel]

I am probably going to just use what you got me from pcpartpicker until I can start building from the ground up. I believe my monitors are 1440p. If it helps, I remember them being 27 inches each

[stoic island]

Enthusiast TX should be okay for now

[upper sorrel]

Ty 😁. This will help alot.

[potent portal]

Agreed even old TX should be good enough. I'd consider it to be of a reduced optimal load due to the aging bulk capacitors.

That said, even 550W is plenty for most computers unless you get into higher end stuff or start overclocking.

A 7600X with a 7800XT should be good, and easily play 1440p at high refresh.

[mossy venture]

That's what I was thinking yeah, I figured anything above 7800xt area would be a bit much

[cyan ravine]

One of the few remaining units I'd trust from that era, AX, HX as well

Also

Different design

They can revise the entire cooler underneath the shroud as well

So it can even look the same, and still be completely different

Good example? Look at the gigabyte eagle 6600, then the 6700xt

Same shroud

Same backplate (different colour)

Heatsink underneath is totally different

To my knowledge the asus dual I don't recall any bad feedback from rdna 2. Only the mech's and ventus' really

https://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/9915/asus-radeon-rx-6600-xt-dual/index.html#Power-Consumption-and-Temps

Looking everywhere to find dual reviews but I don't see anything from the 6700xt

I've found some 6600/xt ones but again, likely a different heatsink under the shroud

[cyan ravine]

Oh hey you know what the shroud is slightly different too mb

Like they cut an extra piece on the right side and a line for the rgb

When I had them side by side in hand they were the exact same size tho

Yeah idk about 6000 dual, I'll take your word for it tho

[fleet pagoda]

Anyone know why gpu utilization would spike from 0% to 80% with nothing open

[cyan ravine]

If you're using task manager it do be like that

Cos task manager

[little osprey]

This is so confusing

Can anyone help me out

Trying to add Front Pannel PC case cables

[desert plinth]

What's your question? See the white text just under the pins in your first pic? Those align with the cables. + to +

[little osprey]

Yea am a bit confused on that

Since some come with 2 pins

And some just 1 pin

[desert plinth]

It's ok. Still do + to +.

[little osprey]

And it would be horrizontal correct

And not vertical

[desert plinth]

No...it's vertical. If I'm understanding you correctly. Probably a decent yt video on it too if you wanna double check.

Looking at the picture as it is oriented, there are, in effect, two columns. The cables align vertically

[polar zenith]

Is this b650m

[polar zenith]

If so, I did this last night

bottom right of the board

[little osprey]

Yes

[potent portal]

Yellow power, green reset, orange power LED (+ left), purple HDD activity (+ left)

For buttons polarity doesn't usually matter unless they made it wrong

[little osprey]

@potent portal thank you

Your awesome

@desert plinth you as well

[polar zenith]

Terrible photo mb

But if you need a better one lmk

[potent portal]

Move the reset over one pin

The one on the end stays empty

[polar zenith]

No room over there tho?

[potent portal]

Then the HDD LED is probably also too far over

[little osprey]

Y’all think this is going to work

Need more zipties

Thoughts on cable management?

[potent portal]

I've seen worse for an amateur build

[polar zenith]

What will happen if theyre like this? Have not had issues so far, I will move them tmr

[little osprey]

My second build. I just need zipties to make the cable management better. What’s your thoughts on my management

Power is looking disgusting tho

[potent portal]

Potentially the LED could short the reset switch pins and cause weird behavior

[little osprey]

I will just remove the LED switch

And the reset switch

[potent portal]

At the very least the HDD LED will be non functional

[little osprey]

No need for it

[potent portal]

Yeah I leave it off too

[little osprey]

I feel like I did good. Kept it organized

[potent portal]

The light is too bright on so many cases

[polar zenith]

Okay so I will do this tmr and show you in here

[little osprey]

I did have 1 and a half pea size of thermal paste

Is that cool?

[potent portal]

Should be fine

[little osprey]

Apreciate it. Let’s see if it works tmrow

[potent portal]

GL
Looks good from what I can see.
As for cable management I'm the type that says "eh, I'm not looking at the back so as long as it closes..."

[little osprey]

Back is probably the most important

Future upgrades make it super easy

If it’s organized

You can see my cables don’t tangle with each other, and are in different areas

[polar zenith]

What GPU is this?

[little osprey]

It’s a 4060ti but I got it for $200. Going to upgrade to a 4070ti / 4070 Super / 7800 XT soon

Ryzen 7 7800X3D 8-Core, 16-Thread Desktop Processor

^CPU

[polar zenith]

You turn it on yet?

[little osprey]

Ram 32Gb DDR5 ram 6000hz

[little osprey]

Not yet, need more zipties

Want to make sure it looks good first

But am certain it’s good

@strong raft why you hating

If need be

I just cut them and fix it

Damn

I will open it right now

Because of you

[strong raft]

Popcorn ready for when/if the pc doesn't boot 1st try after spending however long on tidying up cables, no hate intended on the zip ties.

[little osprey]

Let’s see

[polar zenith]

lmfao

He did say back panel is the most important tbf

[little osprey]

Let’s see

Turning it on right now

[strong raft]

[little osprey]

Turned on

Just need to figure this out

Hatters gonna hate

[polar zenith]

Must be lack of zipties

[little osprey]

Yep

Probably

No error codes at the buttom of the motherboard

@strong raft get rekt

Should have trusted me

[strong raft]

Technically didn't fully boot though.debug leds are proof

[little osprey]

It’s missing wiring

Or something not connected to motherboard

But that’s it

[polar zenith]

You're proving our point guy

You are digging yourself a hole lmao

[little osprey]

More zipties will solve it

[strong raft]

Boot led is irrelevant while windows isn't installed. For vga led, hook hdmi cable from monitor to gpu, then restart pc

[little osprey]

No error codes at the buttom of the Motherboard

Should be good

@strong raft

?

[strong raft]

Stop pinging me. What error codes? Those 2 leds are the debug "codes", and gave input about them. Also probably missing standoffs at bottom of mobo, could maybe cause an electrical short.

[little osprey]

Yea won’t make sense

All 4 lights poped up

So it’s windows not installed

[polar zenith]

...

[little osprey]

Yea I might be restarted

But no biggie

[little osprey]

2 standoffs need a longer screw

[strong raft]

All the stock standoffs are identical, and case comes w/ enough screws. Issue is just if there's a couple missing screws and/or standoffs below mobo.

[polar zenith]

This^

[polar zenith]

Once forgot 2 screws, terrible

and standoffs*

[little osprey]

Talking about this correct?

[polar zenith]

Yes

[little osprey]

Yea for some reason it needs a longer screw then the rest

Will double check

[polar zenith]

I do not see a standoff there

You may need to add one

[strong raft]

Called it. Example:

[little osprey]

Yep

[polar zenith]

So take the mobo out, mark the holes, and add standoffs where you currently do not have

[little osprey]

And how would this cause an electrical short?

And why not just use a longer screw

[strong raft]

mobo to be allowed to flex, and/or various parts of underside of mobo touching the metal

[potent portal]

The standoff is meant to keep the motherboard perfectly flat

Or at least as flat as the case is

[polar zenith]

will touch the medal, it helps support the mobo and secure it

https://www.google.com/search?q=how+would+no+standoffs+under+a+motherboard+cause+a+shoert&rlz=1C1UEAD_enUS1099US1099&oq=how+would+no+standoffs+under+a+motherboard+cause+a+shoert&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOTIHCAEQIRigATIHCAIQIRigATIHCAMQIRifBdIBCDg2MzNqMGo5qAIAsAIA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

[little osprey]

Also it’s not A and G

[strong raft]

That was a random pic I had...

[little osprey]

Mhm

L and M

Is my problom

[little osprey]

But those are at the buttom

Ahhhh

[potent portal]

Sometimes you get a weird motherboard that's between ITX and mATX that extends past the ITX holes but doesn't reach the mATX ones, but I don't think that's the case here

The ones labeled L and M in that pic will help reinforce the board and fight flexing when you plug/unplug the 24 pin cable

[little osprey]

Am chilling, they are at the buttom. Just support

[potent portal]

B and R then? Those should be ok to just leave alone

[little osprey]

Just L and M

[strong raft]

#building-and-recc-chat message ok Fal, you're tagged in.

[potent portal]

I'm only sporadically on today, recovering from injuries

Plus my main PC is dead as they get

[little osprey]

Hope you feel better

Wish you the best

[potent portal]

I'll be fine in a week or two

Nothing serious

[little osprey]

❤️

Just to confirm with you

L and M aren’t that big of a deal

Since they are only at the buttom

[potent portal]

L and M are the ones under the 24 pin

[polar zenith]

You need everyone.

Find the ones you are missing

Takes your mobo off

Install the standoffs

Resit your mobo

Make sure you have a standoff in everyone hole

And screw in

[little osprey]

Man

[potent portal]

Not necessarily, but they are good for reinforcement. You can use a motherboard with no screws at all if you had to. Heck stick it in a cardboard box.

[little osprey]

Can I just use a long screw 💀

Not taking the motherboard off

[potent portal]

That goes against the very purpose of the standoff

[polar zenith]

Then deal with the consequences lmao

[little osprey]

Yep you right

[potent portal]

The point of the standoff is to keep the motherboard from flexing towards the case

[little osprey]

And 1 more question

It’s cool to be getting these

If you haven’t installed windows yet?

[polar zenith]

We have asnwered that already

[little osprey]

No boot yet anyways

[potent portal]

If you can get into bios then yes that's fine

[little osprey]

Bet thanks

Have a good rest of your night

[potent portal]

If you can't get to bios then double check your GPU power and slot seating

[little osprey]

👍 thank you.

[sage widget]

Hello, im upgrading my cpu right now and im trying to screw the cooler in but i need help. Its an AMD cooler with spring loaded screws but i just cant screw them in.

[cyan ravine]

Try the opposite corner

It will be difficult yes but the torque of the opposite corner (also good dispersion as a result) will make it physically easier

[sage widget]

How much force should i be using i really dont want to mess up the cpu i just bought

[cyan ravine]

If you're following the instructions properly then it will go in, consider a screwdriver to push a little further

There's no concern for the cpu, only the motherboard

[sage widget]

ok thanks

[cyan ravine]

Just be careful not to scratch the mobo

Some screws are sharp

As long as you're following the instructions it should go on properly

Even if it is a pita

[sage widget]

tried every screw pressing down like crazy and not a single one will come down even a little as far as i can tell

[cyan ravine]

Double checked the bracket is on correctly?

[sage widget]

wdym

[cyan ravine]

Not screwed on upside down maybe

[little osprey]

Standoffs have been added. Able to screw in the entire motherboard now, also doing the led + and negative and reset as well

[sage widget]

no like wdym by brackets

what part

[cyan ravine]

What cooler is it

[sage widget]

I dont know what cooler is it but it came with the Ryzen 5 5600

[cyan ravine]

The box cooler

Wraith stealth

[sage widget]

Yeah

[cyan ravine]

Ok no that only goes on one way out of the box

Keep trying

https://youtu.be/WbvKjsuznBk?si=KBsYjYo1BWhwTicT

[sage widget]

watched it before

Easily using more force than him and nothing changes

only other way ive seen people solve similar problems has to do with the backplate so i guess im gonna look at that

Looks like that might be it

yes it was

amazing

hold the backplate on while screwing it in bit by bit each screw

[frigid jackal]

2 beeps with an asrock motherboard

any ideas? both short beeps

pc partpicker says memory issue type stuff but 2nd opinions r great 👍

[potent portal]

What model?

[frigid jackal]

B365

[potent portal]

And it's not able to get to bios?

Have you cleared cmos yet?

What memory are you using?

It does appear that the 2 short beeps are memory related, but the cause can be any one of many different things

@frigid jackal

[frigid jackal]

im on my pc rn

i be chilling

it happens someitmes but never causes any major issues

just when my game finishes loading or sumn

Gonna wait until it becomes a major issue before I do anything ngl 🥱

[potent portal]

That sounds fair to me

[south cliff]

Can I put the fans on this side so I don’t block the rgb from the ram or is it better if I put it over the ram?

[polar zenith]

Uhhhh

Hm

[hasty cove]

welp im back for help

is anyone able to help me with a bluetooth issue

i have a B550M pro VDH mobo

but for some reason my pc wants to say my pc doesnt have any bluetooth compatability

when it worked before

and i dont see the bluetooth in the system manager

[fossil cedar]

That's fine

[late fjord]

Built in clips for the nvme is amazing

[fossil cedar]

They're a lifesaver

[late fjord]

Thankfully everything posted first try 🙌

[polar zenith]

What would cause my CPU tempature to sometimes be read and others not be?

Lilke I just booted it up and it is not reading, but 30 min ago it was

[south cliff]

Alright will there be any thermal difference?

I haven’t got all of my parts really just wanted to open them

[fossil cedar]

If so probably not much

[south cliff]

Alright thanks I might try both ways to see which way I like better and see if there is a thermal diff

Difference

[little osprey]

I just opened up BIOS on a new pc. The memory shows DDR5 @4800 MHz. When the ram I purchased is 6000 MHz?

[stoic island]

It runs on jedec speeds by default, enable xmp/expo to reach advertised speeds

[little osprey]

Bet thank you

[polar zenith]

Enable xmp

[little osprey]

I see Dram Frequency DDR5 - 4800 Auto

Do I change it to my advertised speed?

[polar zenith]

Take a photo

Of you in your bios

[stoic island]

XMP/EXPo is usually a separate setting

[little osprey]

This correct?

[polar zenith]

Yes

[little osprey]

Bet

[polar zenith]

Save and exit bios

Then go to task manager make sure it matches

[little osprey]

I don’t even got windows installed

💀

[polar zenith]

You need to do that

[little osprey]

Yep

[sage widget]

I just upgraded my cpu and when I play graphic intensive games it shuts down my pc after a little. I think its because of temperature but I JUST put more thermal paste on it since the problem started and nothing has changed. Any help?

[little osprey]

You might need a better AIO

If your willinf to spend

$40

I can recommend you one

[sage widget]

the cooler i got rn came with the cpu its brand new

and somehow doing worse then my old one

[little osprey]

Yea no

CPU fans that come with it

is horrible

what color is your PC?

[sage widget]

color?

black

[little osprey]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09P4KH7QK?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1

Let me get you a black one

1 sec

[sage widget]

oh alright

[little osprey]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09P4M4C7K?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1

This is a really good AIO

let me show you a picture

Its right above the GPU

[polar zenith]

That isnt a aio lmao

[little osprey]

Yea but I call it a AIO

[sage widget]

i doubt this will fit in my pc

[little osprey]

Got a picture?

If you dont mind

[sage widget]

cant send it here

can i dm?

[little osprey]

Sure

[sage widget]

1 sec

[polar zenith]

Yes you can

[little osprey]

You can send it in #build-pics

as well

and then remove it

[sage widget]

alr ill just do that

[little osprey]

I have a Ryzen 7 7800 x3d and its doing very well

[sage widget]

nope cant send it there either

i lack all perms i guess

[little osprey]

then just dm

[south cliff]

Check temps and make sure the plastic on the bottom of your air cooler is off

Hwinfo is a good way to check temps

Dang the 7900xtx open box is 850 I just got the 4080 for 827

[potent portal]

That's a close enough price difference that I'd call the 4080 better still if you're ever going to use ray tracing and other features

[south cliff]

I use ray tracing a little bit especially in cyberpunk

Cyberpunk is the game I really use ray tracing in

[potent portal]

That game in particular loves nvidia so if you play it a lot then you made a good choice still

[south cliff]

I play Roblox a lot

[potent portal]

And that one doesn't care if you're on a 4090 or a 6500 XT

[south cliff]

And I been getting into helldivers until I sold my 3090 pc

I got 1800usd for that pc did I get a good price?

[potent portal]

Probably? idk for sure without a full parts list but probably

[south cliff]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cqcrh3

I didn’t pay retail for everything

Like gpu and the cooler

And ram

And got a few discounts for the psu and case

[potent portal]

Yeah you basically scammed the poor buyer with those parts used

[south cliff]

I gave my old 6800 and 150 dollars for the 3090

[south cliff]

I didn’t want to he offered

[potent portal]

I'm not being accusative, just an outside perspective

[south cliff]

Yeah I know I was just saying he said he wanted it for the 3090s vram

He said he was going to run a drone program or something like that

[potent portal]

Maybe some sort of image recognition/face detection program with that

[south cliff]

It was a drone mapping program I’m pretty sure

[potent portal]

Ah interesting

[south cliff]

It’s called pix4d

[polar zenith]

Yeah you absolutely scammed them lol

[plucky timber]

Based

[obsidian wolf]

Any comments about the DeepCool AK620 DIGITAL

Planning on probably upgrading my last year build today

and thinking that I want an Air cooler because Im unsure if im cool with a radiator that has a time set before it dies

also it seems that legit on the price range i got the 6950 xt still I can not find anything that beats it if I do a trade in and was looking to get a similar value/quality out of it

[plucky timber]

There's probably better coolers at the same price

The techies know more

[strong raft]

Worth a check also is Thermalright Peerless assassin, phantom spirit, frost commander, frost spirit. Most of these are often below $50

[crimson zinc]

@supple token what’s your desired aesthetic?

[supple token]

Idk much about pc, ppl just told me to look for a i9 4070 with a ddr5

[crimson zinc]

They were particularly wrong

Do you just wanna game?

[supple token]

Yeah

[crimson zinc]

Do you want a 4090?

It’s a bit pricey, and there are 4080 supers that have good quality.

[supple token]

Yh I can do 4080

[crimson zinc]

4090 does surpass it.
But I’ll make you two builds.

Any specific colour theme? Like white or black?

maybe some RGB, or we can go just plain?

[supple token]

Black

@crimson zinc

Rgb yeah

[crimson zinc]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZXBWCd

Or

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7N79pB (this is the 4080 super, it’s a bit less powerful, but still good.

[supple token]

Yh im liking this one

[crimson zinc]

If you wanna take full advantage of the 4090, I’d suggest doing an OLED monitor, such as https://pcpartpicker.com/product/qfpQzy/acer-predator-x27u-bmiipruzx-270-2560-x-1440-240-hz-monitor-umhxxaa001

[supple token]

Do I have build it ?

[crimson zinc]

Yes.
Although, you could check around for some friends who know how, or maybe a local tech shop that will build it for a fee.

If you want a prebuilt, I can also look for ones for you.

However, it will be MUCH more expensive than to just build it yourself.

[supple token]

Yh that would suit me

[crimson zinc]

I’ll look into one for you.

@supple token

https://www.newegg.com/skytech-st-eclipse-1153-b-ne-gaming-entertainment/p/1VK-005B-00182

[supple token]

Not available in Canada

[crimson zinc]

@mossy venture or @cyan ravine might be able to help then. My phone doesn’t allow me to get CA websites easily.

For reference you two, he wants either a 4090 or 4080 super, black style, with RGB. but only prebuilt.

[mossy venture]

I just got here

Budget in cad?

@supple token

[supple token]

Around 2k

[mossy venture]

For the pc, or pc+ monitor

[supple token]

Pc

I already have a monitor

[marsh kiln]

what would be a 2x16GB kit for laptop ram for this desktop computer im looking for? and not to expensive either please

[iron berry]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vHcjCd
working on a lift for a friend with them, they want intel and nvidia, case is also non negotiable theme is white build

anything people would change out to make it better

[crimson zinc]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KYpMgB

Here’s my take

Only a little bit more expensive. 50~ bucks

Couldn’t find that PSU on the list, so I went with something I could

[mossy venture]

I would change almost all if not all of it

What is the pc being used for

[mossy venture]

Sorry I just got back

Pre built, or custom?

[iron berry]

gaming and some photo and maybe video editing

[mossy venture]

Ok, give me a lil bit

[iron berry]

price range is 1200

[iron berry]

any reason for going down to the 30 series instead of a 40 series card? besides the vram

[mossy venture]

Option A, over budget
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yxFy7R

Bit cheaper
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Fp9PN6

And in budget
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wnT39c

7800xt white is 520 as well which is good value

Otherwise I'd do a black 7600, 6700xt, 6800, or 6800xt

Or a used/refurb 3060 ti or 3070

https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-video-card-gv-n306txgaming-oc-8gd-nvidia-geforce-rtx-3060-ti-8gb-gddr6x/p/N82E16814932599T?Item=N82E16814932599T&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-14-932-599T-_-03032024

4060 is really really bad value

It's about 30% worse than a 3060 ti

[iron berry]

Where I had trouble was keeping the all white theme for them and the budget

[mossy venture]

Cheapest nvidia gpu that's worth buying new is a 4070

[iron berry]

I will check those out in a second appreciate it

[mossy venture]

They all kept the aesthetic

So should be all set

I'm gonna do one more option rq

Ssd is free with the cpu on newegg
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LFT39c

[iron berry]

amd makes it easier

ill show them the option much appreciated

you also did change the chase which the one non negotiable thing for them

[mossy venture]

I mean he can change it back if wanted

But it's near identical and $40 cheaper

$50?

Not sure

Can also check out the montech sky two

[supple token]

Pre built

[iron berry]

ill chat with her thanks for all the options

[mossy venture]

Alright, not really going to be any 4080/4090 options in 2k cad

https://www.newegg.ca/abs-sa13700f4070-stratos-aqua/p/N82E16883360404

https://www.newegg.ca/p/N82E16883289348

[supple token]

Is this good

It’s 1.7

[mossy venture]

1700 cad?

[supple token]

Yeah

That what it says

[mossy venture]

Looks fine

[supple token]

Any coupon code you have ?

[mossy venture]

I do not

[lone flame]

218 dollar shipping 💀

[crimson zinc]

@mossy venture best 950w or 1000w PSU?
I was thinking of not needing my 1050w since my draw is only possibly 731 according to pcpp

Put this in there for now.

[limber oyster]

My next card should arrive Friday

[south cliff]

What are you getting

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/fKHqqs/be-quiet-pure-power-12-m-1000-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-bn506

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/4v3NnQ/thermaltake-toughpower-gf-a3-1050-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ps-tpd-1050fnfagu-l

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/LRn9TW/cooler-master-mwe-gold-v2-atx30-1250-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-mpe-c501-afcag-3

[crimson zinc]

Sweet. So the build is looking like this now.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8cyR6D

Unintentional white theme

[mossy venture]

Do gv1000 then

Oh also silicon power 6000c30 rgb kit is $100

[crimson zinc]

Could you swap that? I am cooking some eggs atm

[mossy venture]

Also gm7000 is a better ssd for same price, or mp44l similar for same perf

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FmQNjH

[crimson zinc]

Why vetroo

I thought they were bad

[polar zenith]

What's with the random keyboard?

[mossy venture]

From what I know it's a good psu

Could double check w felix

[crimson zinc]

Came to my doorstep
Ain’t gonna buy one if I got one for free

[polar zenith]

Huh?

[crimson zinc]

Basically, meant for another state, same address. UPS around here is not intelligent.

[obsidian wigeon]

the vetroo is at least a b tier psu

as far as im aware

[crimson zinc]

So this would be the better list

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Lw8sgB

[muted shore]

Hey fellas

One of the helpers helped me here with this build.
I was wondering if I can upgrade this one to be a little better with a bit more investment

r7 5700x

b450 gaming plus max

rtx 3060 12gigs

G.SKILL Ripjaws V 16GB x 2

TEAMGROUP T-Force CARDEA Zero Z44L 500GB

cooler master mwe 650 bronze v2

Can't get used ones

[little osprey]

That is so bad dude

You can get a 7800 XT for the same price

[muted shore]

1200usd

[little osprey]

Are you building your pc or is it already built?

[muted shore]

Building

Well I want a little more future proof pc

[proven jackal]

can someone help me price my pc
I’ve had it for 1 year but I need to sell

4K Gaming Computer i9-12900k RX 7800XT 32GB DDR4 Ram 2TB SSD
CPU = i9-12900K
MB = Gigabyte Z690 Aorus Elite AX DDR4
GPU = Power Color Red Devil RX 7800 XT 16GB GDDR6 Limited Edition
Ram = Corsair DDR4 32GB 3600Mhz
SSD = Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2TB
PSU = Cooler Master MWE Gold 850 V2 80+ Gold

Just give me a rough estimate of what you’d buy it for

just need help on pricing it

[limber oyster]

No?

7800xt version of the taichi

[potent portal]

7800 XT is $500 in the US

[limber oyster]

Before taxes

I spent $420

My budget was $400

I WAS gonna get a 4070ti

[lone flame]

6800 XT is almost the same as a 7800 XT

[limber oyster]

Exactly

[potent portal]

For the most part yeah, just no AV1 on 6800

[limber oyster]

I don't even think ill be using av1

[lone flame]

if your username is true why do you need a 6800 out of curiosity?

[limber oyster]

Whatever that is

[limber oyster]

Two different systems

[potent portal]

It's mostly used for streaming and recording

[lone flame]

ah

[limber oyster]

Replacing my Asus dual 3060

[limber oyster]

Yeah, not needed

I got the taichi for $430

I'd say I got a decent deal

[lone flame]

i normally dont like asrocks cards with the single rgb fan

but that 6800 looks very nice ngl

their OCed 6900s are my fav looking cards from them imo

[limber oyster]

Yeah

I don't really like many of the cards ARGB except the Asus and EVGA cards

Wish I could just swap an Asus strix cooler over

[lone flame]

ngl I hate the strix cards

[crimson zinc]

@potent portal

[lone flame]

i also hate that every video you see on YT of someone doing a high end build does the strix 4090, i9 14900k and lian li fans

[crimson zinc]

It’s the best of the best tbh

[limber oyster]

Yeah, strix makes some of the best RTX carss

*cards

Especially with EVGA out of the game

[crimson zinc]

Can’t really get any better than them
They’re good at what they do

[limber oyster]

Though I am not a fan of Lian li either

[lone flame]

i hope evga makes amd cards in the future

[limber oyster]

I've used em

AMD or intel

I almost went a770

[lone flame]

cool looking cases, fans are cool but overated imo

[limber oyster]

I like my case better

Yes, I like strix

[lone flame]

XFX 💪

[crimson zinc]

They’re fantastic case makers
Can’t deny that

The pricing tho

That’s something they could maybe tone it tf down on

[lone flame]

my prebuilt had an rx 580 from them that i used for like 5 years with no issues

now i have an 6950 from them

[limber oyster]

Xfx is amazing for Radeon

[crimson zinc]

Ain’t nobody wanna spend $230 on a view

[limber oyster]

Especially since they fixed their cooling issues from the 5000 series

[lone flame]

def will be my go to moving forward, will probably upgrade when rdna5 rolls around

[limber oyster]

I spent $130 on my case which is basically a Lian li case but Asus

[lone flame]

unless rnda 4 somehow does very well and they make high end

[crimson zinc]

F

[limber oyster]

$130 seems about the new average for a decent case

[crimson zinc]

I wanna get a jonsbo d41 but I have doubts about my 4090 fitting

[limber oyster]

Yeah

[crimson zinc]

Unless you’re going old school with something like my case

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Lw8sgB

[limber oyster]

Honestly, I'm unsure of the fitment of my 6800xt in my itx build

[crimson zinc]

I wanted the 360, but it’s sold out eeeeeeverywhere

[limber oyster]

Oof

Mine an OLD Cyberpower case

Like i5-5500k old

[crimson zinc]

https://www.newegg.com/white-phanteks-eclipse-g360a-micro-atx-mid-tower/p/N82E16811854117

Never mind it’s back in stock LMAO

[limber oyster]

Lol

[crimson zinc]

G500a has a heckerino of a lot more room

[limber oyster]

6800xt will be tight

[crimson zinc]

With better stock fans too

[crimson zinc]

I think you may want to upgrade your case

That seems like a fire hazard

[analog hearth]

It looks like a printer 💀

[limber oyster]

Everyone says that

[limber oyster]

Nah

I use it when I travel so the handle is a life saver

It even fits as a carry on for airplanes

[crimson zinc]

I can show a much better case lmao

[limber oyster]

I doubt

[crimson zinc]

https://www.newegg.com/p/2AM-05GF-00010

[lone flame]

im gonna caseswap to an h6 flow from nzxt later this year, non rgb is i think 110

[crimson zinc]

One of these might do much better

And also will come with a handle

[limber oyster]

Handle doesn't fold down

And doesn't look at durable

[crimson zinc]

Jonsplus’ cases are quite durable

[limber oyster]

I'd also be afraid of the glass shattering while on the road

I literally drive for 6 days straight

Near non stop

[crimson zinc]

Wrap it well, and it won’t

[limber oyster]

Me and a coworker take 8 hour shifts

[crimson zinc]

I drove my old matrexx 70 like 4 hours

[limber oyster]

Yes, 4, not 160 hours

I've been on the road almost every day since new years

I don't go home until april

Imma stick with my brick

My case is TSA approved

[muted shore]

@cyan ravine

[limber oyster]

That case wouldn't be

[muted shore]

Like the cpu or mobo or something

Or should I get a display with it

Running a 15 inch display rn so

[crimson zinc]

Send me your pcpp @muted shore

[muted shore]

Pcpp?

Oh pcpart picker

[crimson zinc]

https://pcpartpicker.com

[muted shore]

These are the one I'm getting

[crimson zinc]

How much investment are you talking about?

[muted shore]

This one is about 844 usd

I can go upto 1200

Problem is I don't have stuff available here

4070 is 735 usd

[crimson zinc]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RkfjCd

Does this look correct

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7b2nrv
Do you have a case yet?

@muted shore

[muted shore]

yes i have the case

and a antec a30 fan

corsair spec 01

[crimson zinc]

Okay. Go ahead and input that into the second link.

Then send me the new link

[muted shore]

storage as well

240gb ssd
2x 500gb hdd

yes

sorry i dont have 16x2 available

ram

8x2

for 60usd

[crimson zinc]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4cksgB

@muted shore is everything here available?

[muted shore]

Yes

[crimson zinc]

Sweet. Lemme put some finishing touches.

[muted shore]

Thanks

[crimson zinc]

Do you need a monitor?

[muted shore]

Please recommend a display

Yes

Color accurate

I don't game so

[crimson zinc]

Any mice or keyboard?

[muted shore]

Mostly 3d work

Thanks I have mouae and keyboard

[crimson zinc]

@obsidian wigeon am struggling to find a proper monitor for them

I’m calling for an assist

Best thing I can find is https://www.amazon.com/dp/B073VYVX5S?tag=bizbufen-20

But that’s a bit expensive

[obsidian wigeon]

i dont think 4k is needed

id ask for budget

[muted shore]

If it's chaap why not

[obsidian wigeon]

how much are you willing to spend on a monitor

[muted shore]

Cheap

[crimson zinc]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B087V5RLFB?tag=bizbufen-20#twisterPlusSecondaryView-pattern_name_1709528554987

Might be a gaming monitor but it’s a heck of a lot cheaper

[muted shore]

I have about 1200 total budget

[obsidian wigeon]

https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-ProArt-Display-Monitor-PA278CV/dp/B08LCPY1TR/ref=mp_s_a_1_3_maf_1?crid=1R2RT3QOSDU0N&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.jsuLrsI5v5vEbNcClH7O5hp_9JIjeVO_vbmuY38GUGXzxX28UhXVeHTiAY5EQ5avPYmqUvETknhBGuWNbpIOSRkt7VIW6X7yEm9PSDLQ4W40i9vCcj39RU4AhTIUV1cVswgTXzcXlH8ZP6gJoc4jn-Sds23xirJDRnZdtTPjokFEP0CLgoqtYTr49tLl5y5Ws3GNKc9uTj2mD79_3L7A7Q.4S6tlPWEl8l6atRkA4_g7cioQoas13VY9CKvk8BLFK8&dib_tag=se&keywords=color+accurate+monitor+27&qid=1709528715&sprefix=color+acc%2Caps%2C394&sr=8-3

sorry for the link

[crimson zinc]

That’s the one

Get that ^

[obsidian wigeon]

but this is a similar price

much more suited

factory calibrated

[crimson zinc]

@muted shore add that to your cart too

[muted shore]

Looks good

[obsidian wigeon]

as for the pc

is anything bought already?

[crimson zinc]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tPKR6D

[muted shore]

Case and antec a30 cpu fan

[crimson zinc]

@obsidian wigeon that’s what I’ve set yp so far
You’re welcome to change

Assumed WiFi was needed and to eliminate any potential problems

[muted shore]

Thanks for the help 👍

[obsidian wigeon]

isn't spec 01 a pretty old case?

hm, lemme see if i can do something about it

[crimson zinc]

He did have some availability problems, so that list is after a few changes

[muted shore]

Does this ram work?

[obsidian wigeon]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4XJZDZ

id buy all these parts

overall better pc

buy the monitor from amazon

i just threw it into the list too

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YvDFMV @muted shore you could also do this

a lil over budget

[muted shore]

sadly no 4070s here

[muted shore]

4060ti?

[obsidian wigeon]

so where are you buying from then?

[muted shore]

Internet

India

[obsidian wigeon]

oh india

i should look at indian sites then

gimme a min

[muted shore]

Thanks

[muted shore]

Oh wait

Do have 4070suler

Super

is i5-12600KF good enough?

cant get i5-12600KF btw

do have i5-12600K

lol this board is like 600 dollars

ASRock Z690 Extreme ATX

seems a bit out of my budget lol

650usd for rtx 4070 super

[muted shore]

these specs are like the cheapest for me

what about r7 5800x with b450 gaming plus max and cooler master mwe 650 bronze v2

not much of a diff ig

[weary galleon]

5700x->5800x will see virtually zero change in gaming, especially with a 3060

12600 is a pretty good option, def don't need a $600 motherboard though

[obsidian wigeon]

sorry

was busy

[hardy remnant]

I have a friend that is looking to build their first pc, budget is 2300€ max, pc would be used for drawing and design work, maybe some 3D programs like CAD (architecture focused), and also gaming, this was the list a friend made for them, but I'm not sure if it's optimal for what they need? Any recommendations / opinions? GER based

[cyan ravine]

Change a lot of that

The X300 is good

There are cheaper equivalent ssd's

Much better aios for less

Go down to 13600kf

Go up to a 12gb+ vram card, 4060 ti 16gb is a terrible value card, 4070 super would be way better

Power supply is ok but there'll be cheaper variants, like iirc fractal ion gold is cheap in europe

Go up to 64gb for sure

The pop air is a good case if he likes it

And definitely a much cheaper mobo

[hardy remnant]

oh yeah those are a lot of changes

[cyan ravine]

I'm putting it into a list bare with me

Should be a lot more well rounded though

[hardy remnant]

take your time and thank you!!

[cyan ravine]

Hmmge

There's actually a lot more left in the budget

I came up 100 short

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/L6nrXk

[hardy remnant]

nice, thank you

[cyan ravine]

Hold up, I think I can make it even better

[hardy remnant]

sure go ahead :D

[cyan ravine]

Yep I can

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/nMnJZJ

Pretty extreme build, should handle anything thrown at it

Much bigger bit bus on the card too for heavy data workloads like ai and simulation

Simulation potentially having some impact on their work

That's about as price optimised as it gets unless you pick a smaller HDD

[hardy remnant]

tower cooler?

[cyan ravine]

It beats the 240 aio you posted

[hardy remnant]

ic

[cyan ravine]

14700K, 14700KF, 13900K, KF, KS, basically any recent i7 or i9 K I would put a 360mm aio on and a good one

They will happily draw 300W without trying (and a lot of boards just let them do that out of the box

Review for context:
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/air-cooling/thermalright-phantom-spirit-120-evo-review

The 14600KF should be fine under this. We have a few people in here running them (overclocked even) under less competent dual towers

[hardy remnant]

i see thank you

I'll talk with them and see if that's fine for them or if they would want to go for an aio for just the aesthetic, regarding the compatibility bios warning is there something to know or can it be ignored?

[cyan ravine]

Well if they want the aesthetic this is good too
https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/mwPHKX
https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/r6XGDZ

[cyan ravine]

You update via the qflash button, I'm making sure the boards I post work

Cos 14th gen bios compatibility isn't guaranteed out the box

Takes 5 minutes to fix with qflash, that's what the button is for

Added the 4070 Ti Super one with the aio as well

[hardy remnant]

alright! wasn't trying to question your judgement, just clueless about a lot of things regarding pc building

[cyan ravine]

No it's all good

I'm not bothered don't worry

I explain it to a lot of people so it might come across strong lol

[hardy remnant]

omki

[cyan ravine]

But yeah a lot of existing motherboards from intel aren't 14th gen compatible, this goes double for 14700k

It can work, but not guaranteed

The gigabyte boards I'm posting, luckily gigabyte values a bios flash button, which is perfect for situations like this, so they can be brought up to date easily unlike other brands

[hardy remnant]

so you just look for the button in bios on start up?

[cyan ravine]

Nah it's a button on the board

Down near the bottom

Little white one called q flash

[hardy remnant]

oohhh

[cyan ravine]

You download the bios, format a usb stick to be fat32 and empty

Jam that bios in there

DRY

Then stick it in the back of the mobo

Press the button, if it's done everything right

It'll update all on it's own

[hardy remnant]

alright got it, thank you 🫡

[cyan ravine]

Each board has specific instructions with their motherboards so as long as they read them, they should be good

[hardy remnant]

they are fine with the tower cooler

[cyan ravine]

Sounds good

Oh I should amend my comment

[cyan ravine]

360/280mm

[muted shore]

So R7 5700x with 3060 12gb should do me fine with editing stuff

Or is i5 better

[cyan ravine]

@muted shore did you tell them where you were from

Lol

[muted shore]

Yes

Yeah can't get stuff here

I'll prolly go with R7 cuz it's cheaper

Gotta get a display as well so

[cyan ravine]

Mmm

You could consider 12600k/kf maybe

Or better yet like we talked about, used 3080 (I know lol)

For editing you want the gpu grunt after a certain point

Cpu helps a lot but I'd say like, unless it's a 12600K/F with ddr5

You aren't really upgrading below that

[muted shore]

Sadly no gpus

[cyan ravine]

Ye

[muted shore]

I don't have very GPU intensive work but

[cyan ravine]

That's why I was thinking it's better to just sorta cap it where it is

[muted shore]

Shouldn't just go obsolete in a year

[cyan ravine]

Instead of making the numbers we just stay with something reasonable

[muted shore]

Yeah Right

[cyan ravine]

Otherwise it turns into adding cost without really benefiting from said cost

[muted shore]

Yes, that build is pretty good.

the only thing im concerned about is the rams

their manufacturer thing

[cyan ravine]

I agree but the price difference of 2 single vs dual kit was so big it was disgusting

The chances are not insanely high

Someone should just pick two sticks from the same pile so the odds are good that they match

[muted shore]

lol

yes

the person im getting my mobo from is so confused with the motherboard hes ready to send me anything

cant blame him tho

not from technical background

[cyan ravine]

the motherboard I specifically picked to be compatible

[muted shore]

yes

[cyan ravine]

there's not really anything else b450 I would pick at that price range

next choice I'd pick would be like

msi pro b550m VDH wifi

[muted shore]

nah i told him

[cyan ravine]

the problem is the board needs a bios flash button

there are very few cheap boards that have them that are competent

[muted shore]

yes

how long do you think will this build last for

[cyan ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/8ball-bart-simpson-shaking-shake-magic-ball-gif-17725278

there are professionals in the industry with worse specs than yours for video editing

so you know

make with what you have

it could last 10 years

it could last 3

who knows

[muted shore]

yeah ive been running my pc for 7 years now

[cyan ravine]

tomorrow they could unveil a revolution in the tech industry no one was anticipating and pc hardware does a sumersault overnight

there's no answer to that question really

[muted shore]

yeah i should be good

thanks

[severe hull]

@potent portal @mossy venture thank you and to anyone else who helped pick parts , help with input on install . My first PC built . It's for my son so I went overkill on lcd cooler just for looks don't judge lol . But without this group I wouldn't have been able to do it !

[muted shore]

is inno3d a good brand?

[cyan ravine]

it's fine for normal cards

it's a 3060 so, doesn't need to be made within an inch of perfect quality to be decent

just meet reference spec and a half decent cooler

which is what that card should be

[muted shore]

heard the cooling isnt as great as other brands out there

and doesnt sound cool enough

[cyan ravine]

it'd have to be really bad to be worth choosing something else, since this is a 3060

i.e single fan

extremely loud single fan at that

[muted shore]

it got two fans

and also i was wondering

how often do gpus require repasting

[cyan ravine]

the day the temps start going crazy

it can be anywhere between a few weeks to many years

[muted shore]

shakes magic 8 ball

[south cliff]

I don’t need to repaste my old Rx 570 for like 2-3 years

Didn’t*

And I only repasted my gpu so I had the experience on how to do it

[muted shore]

Sounds good

Thanks

[south cliff]

But like Felix said really only repaste it if the temps are going crazy

[muted shore]

i see

shakes magic 8 ball

[mossy venture]

looks sick, glad you got it up and running!

[muted shore]

are 3 fans enough for intake and exhaust
1 for exhaust at the back

[mossy venture]

Typically

[muted shore]

will i have to bios flash b450 gaming plus max for it to support r7 5700x?

[mossy venture]

yes

[muted shore]

what is case standoff

[mossy venture]

where the screws go that hold mobo on

[muted shore]

is this a guide

or a warning or of thing

[dusky hearth]

warning

make sure all your standoffs are in the correct holes or else you might knock off some tiny SMD components

and then your mobo is dead

it has happened... more times than you would think

[muted shore]

so i gotta align it beforehand and not try to slot it in

feeling the slots and then putting it down sorta thing

[dusky hearth]

kinda but also not really

hold on lemme find the swoop diagram that garry made

but make sure that you have the standoffs for atx or matx or itx (whatever board size you're using)

[muted shore]

standoffs

are they screws or

something like screws

[dusky hearth]

they're screws with threading on top as well

they screw into your case, with a socket, then you put your mobo on top, then you screw the mobo screws into them through the mobo standoff holes

it lifts your mobo like a centimeter off of the case

[muted shore]

yeah just looked at my case

there are 2 or 3 of thesew

corsair spec 01

[dusky hearth]

2-3?

there should be like, 8 standoffs or smth

[muted shore]

i might have put them already

yeah i had a mini itx mobo

[dusky hearth]

hmm

[muted shore]

didnt require much

[dusky hearth]

mini itx would use.... 6? honestly i dont remember itx mobo screws

[muted shore]

i had like 3 screws

maybe 4

i threw most of it away now

gon build a new pc

got screws and stuff

ill see to it

[dusky hearth]

oh mini itx only has 4 screws

[potent portal]

https://www.manli.com/en/product-detail-Manli_GeForce_RTX™_3060_LHR_Blower_(M1499+N630)-266.html

[earnest olive]

that's one masculine 3060

[cyan ravine]

mid 3060 spotted

[cyan ravine]

💀

[near garden]

Do I gotta remove gpu and ssd to do a bios update Pc is already built need to flash it for a newer cpu ?

[dusky hearth]

no

does your mobo have a bios flash button

[near garden]

On the back yeah I just heard it’s supposed to be safer if u do it with just the mobo and power supply so other components don’t interfere

[dusky hearth]

Idk how they would interfere, nor have I ever heard anyone say that, but you can redo the flashing anyways since you have the button

[vagrant thistle]

Are b650s known to be faulty.

???

Motherboard

[analog hearth]

Are b650s known to be faulty.

???

Motherboard

[mossy venture]

No?

B650 is a whole generation of motherboards

[split cliff]

my friend wants a royal purple build
games he play: rainbow six siege, tekken, guilty gear
1080p monitor
budget around $1500

can someone craft smth on pcp?

[vagrant thistle]

So I have this guy building my ox

Pc

Store guy “technician”

He’s telling me this is not

Compatible with my power supply

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/36nh89

Which ok I can understand

But then he tells me after he the power supply didn’t work after I bought a brand new 1000x

That the motherboard is faulty

Like I’m confused lol

I’m genuinely getting to the point

Of homicidal legacy genocide

On this sob

Excuse me sorry

[weary galleon]

Build the PC yourself and don't get ripped off by some sleazy business

[vagrant thistle]

Bro how

I can’t

No one wants to help me

Legit bro

I’ve been asking

I spent 3 grand on this idk wtf I’m doing so wtf am I supposed to do if I make an error

It ain’t like it’s 100 bux

[weary galleon]

There are videos online that will literally show you every single step

It is very hard to break anything

[mossy venture]

Yeah he's an idiot

I would change that list though if you haven't ordered yet

[mossy venture]

Far overkill for 1080p, but
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fLJWCd

[mossy venture]

DOA parts are a thing

Dead on arrival

You can just return the mobo and have them send a new one of this is the case

[vagrant thistle]

No

What motherboard

Is compatible with that

Like exactly

[mossy venture]

Yes compatible

It is possible for a part to be dead on arrival