building-and-recc-chat

[obsidian grove]

So is it better to buy a used cpu as well then?

[potent portal]

You can totally do that. Same principles apply as GPUs.

One thing to keep in mind with buying used CPUs is fakes do exist. People will take an IHS off of a 13900k and put it on a Pentium.

It's REALLY rare because of how hard that is to do but it does happen

[south cliff]

is there anyway to stop my ram from just flashing rapidly

[potent portal]

openrgb?

Just make sure your chipset drivers are installed and it works almost every time

[south cliff]

and also my ram doesent whow up on signal rgb anyymore

[potent portal]

Re-install your chipset drivers

[south cliff]

how

[potent portal]

Are you on the latest version?

[south cliff]

idk

[potent portal]

Updating would be sufficient, check your mobo support page

[south cliff]

k

i know i got the latest bios f23

[potent portal]

If you're already on the latest it would give you the option to un/re-install

[south cliff]

alr

[timber glade]

Anyone know if its a large performance drop grabbing a reference 6950xt over the other 6950 cards? Im limited in psu and space. I have a RMx 850 psu and a carbide air 540. So far the reference card is the only one i can fit in my case. and the other cards have higher psu reqs...

[potent portal]

Reference AMD is fine

[south cliff]

um

it just didnt do anything

nvm

[timber glade]

Alright thanks

[south cliff]

when i install it

it just disaperres

sorry for bad spelling

[obsidian grove]

So I’ve been told by someone that it’s good time to buy a pc is that true or just a myth?

I will buy a pc anyhow even if it’s not just curious

[mossy venture]

It's definitely better than it was during the pandemic

Did you have a set budget in mind for your computer, and what are you using it for?

[obsidian grove]

Oh I actually got some help with a build

[mossy venture]

Here or elsewhere?

[obsidian grove]

Here

[mossy venture]

Nice

Should be all set then

[obsidian grove]

https://se.pcpartpicker.com/list/M7CHC6

Yeah but I just wanna be throughout

Since once this money is used I will not get it back

I am focusing on gaming since digital art don’t require much

[mossy venture]

Looks pretty good

[obsidian grove]

Yeah btw when you’ve seen it

Do you think if I go with a 3060 ti that It will be able to fit

I am a noob at this

[mossy venture]

https://se.pcpartpicker.com/list/7NT3Ls

Ram is identical performing, just diff brand. Ssd is just as good if not better, psu is just as good

[obsidian grove]

Oh so this is the build I will need go with if I go with 3060 ti?

[mossy venture]

You can if you'd like, 6800 good bit better Tho. If you can get the 3060 ti for a good bit less tho, go for it

[obsidian grove]

I think I will be saving $200-$280

If I buy the used 3060 ti

[mossy venture]

That sounds decent

What about this? https://se.pcpartpicker.com/product/V4nypg/asus-radeon-rx-6700-xt-12-gb-dual-video-card-dual-rx6700xt-12g

[obsidian grove]

Oh I’ve seen it

Never really looked into it

[obsidian grove]

Tho I was wondering why you changed it up?

[mossy venture]

Wdym

[obsidian grove]

Ah you redid the build?

[mossy venture]

Yeah, I changes some things up

Cooler is a bit better, ram is identical and cheaper, psu is identical and cheaper, ssd is cheaper and won't notice a difference but technichally better

[obsidian grove]

Oh!

Is it alright if I ask people to compare the builds?

[fossil cedar]

This ones better btw

[obsidian grove]

Oh why is that?

[fossil cedar]

@mossy venture btw nv2 reviewed good but they part swapped to like bottom barrel drive,the pylon is like a c tier psu not a tier, coolers and ram are basically the same get whatever between those

[obsidian grove]

Oh I see

[fossil cedar]

Yep

I'd get the cheaper gskill ram tho

[mossy venture]

Oh I thought pylon was A tier im sorry that's my bad

[fossil cedar]

Since cheaper

[mossy venture]

There was formula gold 650 for cheaper than d.f 650 I think tho

[fossil cedar]

All good, think you're thinking of the core reactor

Xpg names are weird

[south cliff]

well i have tried everything with my ram and i think i found the bad one but the others are still flashing

im going to see if i can get a rma

[obsidian grove]

I’ve mostly only done some research on gpu, cpu and ram

[mossy venture]

https://se.pcpartpicker.com/product/PR92FT/corsair-txm-2021-650-w-80-gold-certified-semi-modular-atx-power-supply-cp-9020229-eu

This works

[obsidian grove]

So I’m mostly lost in the other departments

[mossy venture]

Ahhh

Psu, there's a tier list pinned in #cases-psu-and-cooling

[obsidian grove]

I was wondering if I can use the same build I sent from the beginning with a 3060 ti instead

[mossy venture]

Case, mainly just looking for something with a mesh front but there is a bit more to it too

You can, but I'd definitely go for the g.skill ram over corsair

Decent bit cheaper for identical ram

[fossil cedar]

You could ye

[obsidian grove]

Ah and I’m thinking of upgrading to ryzen 7 in the future

As well will it get to hot?

[fossil cedar]

Ehh

[mossy venture]

Not worth really, only cpu worth upgrading to on that socket is 5800x3d

[fossil cedar]

Not worth tbh

[mossy venture]

Even that is so so

Gtg, pato will help (better than I can either way lol)

[fossil cedar]

Anything worth an upgrade you'd have to go to ddr5 and different motherboard for

[obsidian grove]

Ryzen 7 5700g?

[fossil cedar]

Worse than the 5600

You'd want to go to the 5700x but it's not that much better that it's really worth it

[obsidian grove]

Oh why is that the case?

[fossil cedar]

The g cpus have cut back cache

So the 5700g is basically a 3700x with an ipgu

[obsidian grove]

Oh I mean why isn’t upgrading to a 7 5700x

Worth it

[south cliff]

better options

[fossil cedar]

5600 is enough up to about 3090/6950xt/4070 ti level

Even then not a big jump

[obsidian grove]

Ohh

[mossy venture]

The extra cores aren't really utilized for gaming

So its a minute difference for most people

I'd say only worth going to 13600k/kf, 5800x3d, or 7800x3d beyond a 5600/12400f for gaming

12600k can be worth sometimes

[gentle pollen]

What CPU would be needed when paired with an RTX 4090 to get solid 240+ frames when on high settings in games such as Fortnite, COD, Halo Infinite, and other graphic intense games. (Not asking about CP considering I know that will bring the 4090 to it's knees soon).

[mossy venture]

The best cpus to go for atm are 13600k and 7800x3d I believe

[gentle pollen]

Wouldn't the 7950x3D be faster then the 7800x3D?

For games as well.

[mossy venture]

Yes, but I'm not sure how much. I'd check benchmarks in games, but if it's anything like 7700x vs 7950x it isn't worth it

[languid nimbus]

you’d think lol

[south cliff]

@potent portal I put them in just by them self and 3 of them got no errors in 10 min

But one of them doesn’t boot

and they dont like flash on their own but when i put them 3 together they flash

welp it just blue screened on me

[velvet hatch]

yo can anyone help me out with a quick look at this build ive come to after getting some help here a little earlier, not very knowledgeable but just looking for a gaming rig that can run most things on high/ultra at 1440p and im not fussed about ray tracing, tryna stay around £1000, appreciate any help

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/dxxQmr

[cyan ravine]

It ticks most of my boxes but let me see if I can make it any cheaper

[velvet hatch]

cheers, ill prob wait to see if theres any upcoming sales before buying the parts

[cyan ravine]

@velvet hatch made it much better
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/pWmHPX

[velvet hatch]

jesus thats a major improvement for £20 thank you so much

really appreciate the help man

[cyan ravine]

All good. There was a lot of value in changing board ssd and psu

Same quality stuff for less

Also now that ram is significantly better lol

[velvet hatch]

neat

[cyan ravine]

Just one catch

Try to avoid any high end cpu's with the mobo

If you wanted to go with a mobo that had say, a 5800x3d in mind I can find one

Or even 5950x

[velvet hatch]

is that in terms of upgradeability for future?

[cyan ravine]

Like for example this one
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/KpCFf7/asus-tuf-gaming-a520m-plus-micro-atx-am4-motherboard-tuf-gaming-a520m-plus

[cyan ravine]

Ye

[velvet hatch]

for around £20 more thats prob worth it for the future right?

[cyan ravine]

Kinda ye

[velvet hatch]

alright ill prob do that then

[cyan ravine]

I think that's the one, hold on let me double check

@velvet hatch this one instead
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/DYNxFT/asus-tuf-gaming-b450m-plus-ii-micro-atx-am4-motherboard-tuf-gaming-b450m-plus-ii

[velvet hatch]

so with that one i could possibly upgrade to an x3d in future?

[cyan ravine]

Yeah for sure

Sorry I couldn't find the other one I knew about

[velvet hatch]

cheers, nah its all good youve helped me so much

[cyan ravine]

Np

[velvet hatch]

lol thanks a lot man have a good one

[gentle pollen]

@formal mica what is that object in #build-pics?

[formal mica]

3d printed ghost off of destiny pretty cool build right

[gentle pollen]

Oh so that is from Destiny.

I have a friend who is like crazy Into Destiny.

[formal mica]

He might go crazy over it lol show him it

[gentle pollen]

Sure.

[twilit field]

Hey everyone! I come looking for advice like a lot of people lately. I used to build PCs with my brother growing up and now that I'm done with college I'm trying to do my first build for the first time in a loooong time. I'd love feedback here. I'm trying to play games like LoL, SWTOR, Battlefront II, Fallen Order (and soon Survivor), Fortnite. My budget is as close to $1K as possible (no more than $1200 ideally). I'm hoping to get parts that will let me play these games on a high FPS but that will also last me a while (at least 3 years) and not break the bank. Particularly, I'd like to know if the CPU and GPU will fit this criteria in your opinion. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/V8j94s

[potent portal]

Are you gaming at 1080p or 1440p? Fallen Order is REALLY hard on the GPU and a 6600 would struggle above medium quality

[formal mica]

Oof

Yea I just saw that I don't think he needs the AIO

[potent portal]

I'm just going to start a new list lol

[formal mica]

Yea I would

He spending more on his cpu than his gpu

He could probably look for some sales along for the ssd

[twilit field]

I'm fine with 1080p but if I can get away with 1440 then I'm down. I'm also fine with trading off the AIO for an air cooler or a cheaper CPU to spend more on a better GPU

[formal mica]

You could get a air cooler for 40 bucks like mine and be fine

And spend more money on the gpu

But fal cie is just going to rebuild one for you so it should be good

[twilit field]

Tbh AIOs are new to me so I don't know if they make a big difference or not hahah

[formal mica]

You getting stuff all on Newegg/amazon or you thinking of going to microcenter

[twilit field]

Never heard of microcenter. Do they have better deals? I'm not attached to either Newegg/amazon

Forgive me for I am re-learning

[formal mica]

Depend where you live if you are close to one the have cpu memory and motherboard deals that could save you some money

[potent portal]

On anything less than the hottest CPUs at the high end, an air cooler is perfectly fine

[twilit field]

Looks like they don't have a location near me

[formal mica]

That sucks

Guess Odering online is the way to go then

[twilit field]

If the deals are that good though I have a friend in LA that could probably ship to me from the Tustin location. I'll have to look into that.

[formal mica]

I mean it's probably just easier to do online

It's good deals just have to see if they have any

[potent portal]

@twilit field This'll get you 1440p high or ultra in most games https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rbVPwc

[formal mica]

Let's see this build fal cie

Cough cough shouldve did his max budget

[potent portal]

He said as close to 1k as possible so I respected that lol

You can always upgrade the CPU later to a 13600k or spend more now and get a 12600kf

[formal mica]

I mean 200 dollar to gpu

[twilit field]

Much appreciated hahah

[potent portal]

Well, $130 more would get a 6950 XT so I see your point there

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3N2GpH bit diff take than falcie, both are good choices

[twilit field]

I might splurge on the 12600kf. Is the difference that big between the 12400f and the 12600kf?

[mossy venture]

Tho maybe lean towards falcies, since at that price for 6800xt just go 6950xt

If going 12600kf I'd also get a bit better cooler like pa120

[potent portal]

AMD can be a bit of a better value option but no upgrade path on AM4. I tend to look to the future. Which is also why I put boards with good heatsinks.

[mossy venture]

Pretty much identical upgrade path tho, 13600k vs 5800x3d

[formal mica]

Am5 is supposed to supported 2025+

[potent portal]

But also has a higher cost of entry

Unless you're near microcenter in which case banger deals

[formal mica]

He said he might be able to get a friend get it for him

But I guess you have to think about tax two tho I payed like 200 dollars In taxes for my build

If not more

[twilit field]

I'll have to play around a bit with the builds to see if I can make a 12600kf work. Super good feedback though, I wasn't investing in the right places. Really appreciate the help

[twilit field]

It looks like Tustin has the same sales tax rate as my city, so I think I'd just be on the hook for paying my friend the shipping hahah

[formal mica]

If you take a screenshot of the microcenter combos we could tell which ones worth your money too

[twilit field]

Let me take a look

[potent portal]

Same cost for the three parts as your current build but way better parts

Plus as mentioned AM5 has plenty of future support planned

And you get DDR5 to boot

[formal mica]

Is the combo I got on there still it was 100 bucks more for more memory and better cpu

Personal I don't think 16gb of memory is enough now days

[potent portal]

Yeah

If you can squeeze that into the budget it would be worth it

[formal mica]

Hey looks like my cpu motherboard and memory lol

[potent portal]

More and faster memory, more CPU cores

[twilit field]

Can't upload the image but there's a 12600k and z690 aorus elite combo for $300, but no memory

[formal mica]

I think the two he posted here are the better combos

They don't have many good Intel combos for some reason

[potent portal]

Eh that's only about a $50 discount

[twilit field]

Wouldn't mind paying the $499 though. I never used an AMD processor so I'm hesitant. You guys have good experiences with it?

[potent portal]

Absolutely

[formal mica]

Uh can't say yet

Building mine tomorrow

[potent portal]

To quote J2C, "AMD now feels more like Intel than Intel"

[twilit field]

I'll be checking #build-pics for it!

[formal mica]

Yep probably won't be till late since ups doesn't show up till 7 in the afternoon

[twilit field]

Interesting. I know my brother liked AMD back in the day (2011-ish) but I never crossed over. He has an AMD in his new rig too

[potent portal]

That's about the last time AMD was good

[formal mica]

I think they recently just got better with their ryzen cpus

[potent portal]

Ryzen really brought them back

3000 series got them on par with Intel

5000 blew past them

[twilit field]

With the AM7 would you recommend the same cooler in your build or would you need something stronger?

[formal mica]

I think Intel is just now barely beating them with their new one

[twilit field]

I'm all for the future support though. For me that's an investment I don't mind making.

[lyric thistle]

my brother's old PC has a Phenom II X4 955 and an HD 5770

[potent portal]

7800X3D begs to differ

[formal mica]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PRntv3 this was my build that took 5 days to build lmao

Is it out yet tho

[potent portal]

yes

[formal mica]

Then nvm

Read a old article then

[potent portal]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3hyH99/amd-ryzen-7-7800x3d-42-ghz-8-core-processor-100-100000910wof

[humble fossil]

hi

[potent portal]

Beats the 13900k for $50 less and less than half the power

[humble fossil]

i5 13400f or 12600k

[potent portal]

12600k

SA voltage is unlocked so you get better memory performance

[twilit field]

Looks like microcenter has a deal for a 6950XT for $599 with any CPU. That wouldn't be bad to add on either.

[humble fossil]

rtx 3060 ti LHR or gddr6x?

[formal mica]

I don't think that works with the combos sadly

[twilit field]

Shoooot

[formal mica]

Unless I got scammed lmao

[potent portal]

Yeah you can't mix combos

[twilit field]

I guess good things have limits

[potent portal]

The 6X model of 3060 ti isn't really any better

[humble fossil]

thanks :)

[potent portal]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/gbXV3C/asrock-phantom-gaming-oc-radeon-rx-6950-xt-16-gb-video-card-rx6950xt-pg-16go

[formal mica]

Could also see if they have any monitors on sale

I got monitors that were 327 for 200

[humble fossil]

is Arctic freezer 34 good with it?

[formal mica]

Is that a cpu cooler

[humble fossil]

yes

[formal mica]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PRntv3

Just get the one in my build

[humble fossil]

it’s expensive for me

[formal mica]

If it fits

Oh

Well

Hmm

I'm confused which one are you looking at the one in build is actually cheaper unless I'm looking at the wrong cooler

[potent portal]

The duo yes, the single tower no

[cedar shell]

Posted Pics in the build pics channel of my new gaming PC:
Specs
Ryzen 7 7800X3D
32GB Kingston DDR5 6000 RAM
Radeon 7900XT GPU
MSI MAG B650 Tomahawk Mobo
2x2tb WD Black SN850X nvme SSDs in a RAID 0
Corsair 360mm AIO cooler
CORSAIR Obsidian Series 500D RGB SE Mid Tower Case
Corsair 850 watt PSU

[obsidian wolf]

May I ask you what fans are those

I want to do my own red and black build

[humble fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/more-than-you-can-afford-pal-more-than-you-can-afford-ferrari-fast-and-furious-expensive-gif-25234833

[obsidian wolf]

huh

[cedar shell]

They are just the fans that came with the case and AIO cooler

[obsidian wolf]

Oh okay

[humble fossil]

i5 12600k - rtx 3060 ti - ddr5

850w

good?

@potent portal please

[potent portal]

850W would probably be overkill

Unless you plan to upgrade to a 4090 later lol

And overclock it at that

[humble fossil]

wattage calculator

[potent portal]

Those are garbage

Honestly 12600k + 3060 ti would be ok on 550W

[humble fossil]

ok so the 750w enough?

[potent portal]

750W would be enough for a 4090 (if it's an A tier)

[humble fossil]

ok

do i need ups

[potent portal]

Most people don't, unless you get frequent black/brown outs or otherwise unstable power

Just a good surge protector

[humble fossil]

I have to, I don't know if the electricity will be intermittent

[potent portal]

Ok, with intermittent power you can get a line interactive UPS and it'll be able to respond and protect your devices faster than a cheap standby unit

[humble fossil]

what do you suggest?

[potent portal]

https://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-Line-Interactive-1000VA-Watt-Outlets/dp/B07RRYB3RJ?th=1

[humble fossil]

uk plug please

[formal mica]

How much was it

[cedar shell]

About $2800

[formal mica]

So about the same as mine

[potent portal]

1500va is overkill

https://www.amazon.co.uk/PowerWalker-BlueWalker-Basic-1000-STL/dp/B000QWJ98Q

[humble fossil]

ok

[formal mica]

Falcie what about mine

[potent portal]

What do you mean

1500VA on your system?

[formal mica]

@potent portal https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PRntv3 which is better in your opinon

Which do you recommend fal cie I was thinking 1500

[potent portal]

1500VA would be more appropriate on a XTX system yeah

[formal mica]

Ok

[formal mica]

Never said which was better

[potent portal]

Yours is more sensible. I'd prefer that.

Plus I'll take a better GPU over more storage any day

[jagged ember]

In theory, this one is

Pure sine wave allegedly reduces the load on your PSU and electronics

[potent portal]

I'm theory, ignoring the fact there's tons of filters in a PSU

[rotund perch]

Okay so I have an issue but idk where to go because I’m not super familiar with PCs but I’m looking to upgrade my rig and was wondering what I should do

[potent portal]

Start with what you have, your budget for the upgrade, and your country

[rotund perch]

Rx 580 8 gb
16gb ram
Ryzen 5 2600
Asus b450f motherboard
1 tb harddrive
120 gb ssd
500w power supply

I that was the plan

Budget is nothing over 300 trying to start in small steps and US

But my gpu is now a gtx 1650

[potent portal]

The GPU is what I'd go for. You can get a RX 6700 around $300 I think, I'll check

[rotund perch]

Okay next step

And would it still be supported with that set up

[formal mica]

The gpu is the graphic cards

[rotund perch]

Thank you im not super familiar with pc I got one for fiveM and that’s about it

[potent portal]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Rs92FT/xfx-speedster-swft-309-radeon-rx-6700-10-gb-video-card-rx-67xlkwfdv

[languid nimbus]

yeah there’s definitely a pretty significant jump from 1650 to 6700

[potent portal]

$330 if you can flex the budget a little

[cyan ravine]

Next upgrade I'd go 5800X3D and a new power supply

After gpu

[formal mica]

Can his motherboard handler it

[potent portal]

yes

[cyan ravine]

Asus b450f yes

That's a strix

[languid nimbus]

although an nvme prob wouldn’t hurt

considering they’re fairly cheap

[cyan ravine]

Ye they could do that too

Silicon power A60

1tb

[formal mica]

He is on a budget

[potent portal]

And if you absolutely can't flex that budget there's this https://pcpartpicker.com/product/NjM48d/asrock-radeon-rx-6650-xt-8-gb-challenger-d-oc-video-card-rx6650xt-cld-8go

[cyan ravine]

Ya we're talking after this upgrade

[cyan ravine]

Or do this and a 1tb a60 nvme

[potent portal]

$260 + $40

yeah

[languid nimbus]

[cyan ravine]

Then X3D+PSU later

Then new gpu

[formal mica]

• 20 some dollars on tax

[potent portal]

Maybe he lives in Oregon where there is no tax

[languid nimbus]

lmao

just have a yard sale

or sell feet pics

[formal mica]

Lol

[cyan ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/kids-falling-hit-sister-fight-siblings-gif-12112871

[obsidian wolf]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/rjNHPX

britoids prices are crazy

[potent portal]

7900X loses to the 7800X3D in gaming badly

[languid nimbus]

is there a particular reason to go with 7900x over 7800x3d now?

ye

[obsidian wolf]

no

7800x3d is just more expensive

this build is with american translate prices

for some parts

Deal buying the 7900x

with mobo

[languid nimbus]

ah gotcha

[cyan ravine]

Do 670p or p41 plus for the ssd

[obsidian wolf]

ram is bought in price with the 4090 ti for american prices

[formal mica]

Naw 7700x deal with moth and ram

[obsidian wolf]

is cheaper over there

to get the p41 plus

the solidignm is like 124$ pounds i think

[cyan ravine]

Yes the p41 plus is cheaper than the p3

And better

Also go fractal focus 2 for the case

In uk the g360a is a blegh buy

[flint sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/futureofrep-stan-twitter-brothers-fighting-friends-fighting-kids-fighting-gif-21582913

[obsidian wolf]

Isn't the Phantek Eclipse overal recommend more

?

[cyan ravine]

Also this psu is just as good as the rmx and cheaper
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/v3VG3C/msi-mpg-a750gf-750-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-mpg-a750gf

[cyan ravine]

It's not worth 50% more than a focus 2

And not in gbp

For that matter

Uk case pricing is nasty

[obsidian wolf]

the p3 price is also lower

my friend is getting it for like 88$

compare to that 117 p3 showcase there

[cyan ravine]

Alr for 88 is ok

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/j9Z3Ls like this

110 pounds saved

That's almost a gpu upgrade

[obsidian wolf]

if radeom

but he doesn't like radeom :V

And I am buying the gpu here

[cyan ravine]

In fact it is a gpu upgrade, lol

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/tDdTGL

Well 4070 Ti is still ok, just get the cheapest one

They're all overbuilt

[obsidian wolf]

He want's the MSI one

:V

It's just some stuff he actually wants and stuff

specific

I told him the same already

[cyan ravine]

How much more is it over the cheapest

[obsidian wolf]

like 60$\

[cyan ravine]

Ew

Not for a gaming trio

[cyan ravine]

Do the ventus if he wants msi

[obsidian wolf]

he just likes Msi

[cyan ravine]

Ventus is fine

Ventus runs well for 40 series actually

[obsidian wolf]

He likes the design I can not argue against it... well not again

[formal mica]

Why is that asrock is usually cheaper

[cyan ravine]

Asrock is bae

[obsidian wolf]

Is just like me but with the North Fractal design

I am willing to spend more on a case only to get that case

him, he is willing to spent more on the design

of the gpu

[cyan ravine]

Ya but spending up on a 4070 Ti gives 0% performance lol

[obsidian wolf]

I mean he's spending 20$ pounds more

since I am the one buying

it

Secret ...

[cyan ravine]

Ya but you can save him 55$ going ventus

[obsidian wolf]

Yeah

[cyan ravine]

Ventus is fine

[obsidian wolf]

but that's what he wants

how can I argue against that

[potent portal]

Well... same tier at least. It's not technically as good, just they're both way above average

[cyan ravine]

It's more than enough for the specs irregardless

Should technically do a 650W here

[obsidian wolf]

He's doing OC

over time

[cyan ravine]

Wouldn't matter

Total power draw of the two parts doesn't exceed 500w

After transients? Still under 650W lol

[obsidian wolf]

We went with the general tip

I got earlioer

750w - 850 w

But we saw 750 w would be fine

[cyan ravine]

No way

850W is way overkill

750W is definite overkill

[cyan ravine]

@wheat coral

650W is fine even for oc

4070ti is a very low power card for it's spec

[potent portal]

850W is overclocking a 4090 and a 13900k territory

[cyan ravine]

Pretty much

[obsidian wolf]

:V

my friend went with a i7 13700k and 4090

with 1200 w

[cyan ravine]

1000W is peace of mind

1200W is guaranteed nothing happens

850W works

[obsidian wolf]

well yeah peace of mind that's what I want for both

I gotta go help him build that one

[cyan ravine]

Ye

We talked about that one

[obsidian wolf]

And I am going to go help the other one as well

Will be in UK in December and that's when I'll bring the stuff

[cyan ravine]

He can definitely save money here

I'd keep trying to convince the ventus personally

[obsidian wolf]

I mean yeah, we started today after I came up with it

[cyan ravine]

4070ti level they both perform identically

[obsidian wolf]

It was the first checks and what I know from recommendations in here

[cyan ravine]

Even after oc

Cos 140 pounts in the pocket

Thats...almost 10%

Lol

[obsidian wolf]

well this whole build

[cyan ravine]

Huge savings

[obsidian wolf]

has been save on more than 30%

since I am bringing the expensive parts

from here

for 399$ pounds

you can get the 7900x

[cyan ravine]

Ya but you can help him save more

[obsidian wolf]

only

that's true and I was talking about it

[cyan ravine]

Convince him of the ventus and it'll be great

Msi psu - he'll like that lol

[obsidian wolf]

if it was up to me

I want to convince him

to the 6950xt

I can get it for 600$

[cyan ravine]

6950xt would be huge over that too yeah

I agree with you there

4070ti is slowly losing any meaning it had with that 600$ card floating around

[obsidian wolf]

But he's dead set on some things

And I can not argue against that

I get it as to why since he use to work in this field

when younger

[cyan ravine]

He's using it for work?

Not games?

[obsidian wolf]

He likes to actually work on them so yeah

[cyan ravine]

What kind of work does he do

[potent portal]

Nvidia still has better professional support in general thanks to their long monopoly

[obsidian wolf]

Genuinely that I have never ask

[cyan ravine]

Worth asking cos some combos can be horrible for workstation

He might need 64gb over 32gb for example for work

[obsidian wolf]

bruah

he' had 48gb

in his current one

but some bios bs

stuck him to 32gb

at 2133 mhz

[cyan ravine]

Mixing sticks is not recommended...lol

[obsidian wolf]

we where doing charts earlier on the speed of 4070 ti

[formal mica]

It works tho

[obsidian wolf]

for some stuff in cinerbeanch and adobe points

and the 4070ti came up above the 6950xt

so why he went with it

even above the 7900xt

but found it funny how the 4080 was the peak in those charts

why wasn't the xtx put in there

when the prices differences make it more than an actual contender within that place

[cyan ravine]

You need to ask him what work he does lol

It really matters

[obsidian wolf]

yeah

[cyan ravine]

Work>play

The whole pc build could do a 180 flip depending on what work it is lol

[obsidian wolf]

well yeah

But he also thought a lot about looks

Because initially I was suggesting the i7

but he mentioned the twp

and how high it was

[cyan ravine]

Work >>>>>> looks & play

[obsidian wolf]

well again yeah!

But again he mentioned looks so I am not sure what it is

Maybe he works with it and he thinks this is what makes sense

for him

but again I have to ask

[cyan ravine]

[formal mica]

[humble fossil]

falcie

what the deference between rmx and rme in the Corsair psu?

[lyric pivot]

Idk

[obsidian grove]

Hey i watched the video Linus tech tips made and I just wanted to know what questions I should ask when buying a used gpu

[fossil cedar]

For pictures of it (not the box), preferably with a piece of paper with their username/date

[upper condor]

if you could get proof it works thats always a plus

best case is you see it plugged in working, but unlikely thatll happen

[formal mica]

naw just give money up for free nothing to worry about being Scammed

[strong raft]

Afaik rmX is a lil older but better overall. Rme might be smaller & fit in certain setups. Would have to check.

[upper condor]

anyone know how accurate bottleneck calculators actually are?

assuming quite low

[vague oracle]

Not accurate at all

There’s always going to be a bottleneck in your system somewhere

No matter what

[upper condor]

figures!

[fossil cedar]

Trash

[sinful prawn]

Okay guys!!! The second aio came in

Let’s pray it works

Just got to wait on the psu coming today

So much trouble with parts, I got scammed from a new egg seller on thermal paste…. Never will buy from china seller

@cyan ravine

[obsidian grove]

I will pray for you 🙏

[cyan ravine]

What why was I tagged

[sinful prawn]

Cause you took me if it doesn’t work I need to get a different kind of aio

Do you remember?

[cyan ravine]

I do

I thought I was being rung up for scamming 💀

[potent portal]

Yeah you scammer, it's about time you got called out

[upper condor]

👆

[wheat coral]

what food do i order yall

[wheat coral]

jit i put a question mark

[lyric thistle]

The food with the food

[wheat coral]

i gave a ball park lol

[lyric thistle]

The one that's food and has food in it

With a side of food maybe

[languid nimbus]

sushi

[wheat coral]

DAYUM youre an expensive date

[languid nimbus]

Damn right, caviar on top too

AND

an egg roll

[wheat coral]

i got carls junior and a shake 💀

[languid nimbus]

shoulda gotten Krystal’s

[wheat coral]

not here

[formal mica]

Well now I'm waiting for UPS for my cpu cooler and psu

[leaden mauve]

Taco bell crunchwrap trio

[sinful prawn]

What kind was it?

[south cliff]

Is 11.73 upload speed good?i feel like im lacking

[dusty cedar]

i only get like 5.96 so you're doin better than me. 11 is really good. especially for streaming if that's what you wanna do

[south cliff]

well i just be seeing people that get like 40 and above

[dusty cedar]

you really only need 6 for streaming at minimum

[south cliff]

i cant ever get my recording or streaming setting right

[dusty cedar]

i don't stream so i can't help you there but the majority of people say you only need 6 as a minimum and anything lower than that will give bad quality

i think with an upload speed of 6 will let you stream at 720p at 30fps without there being any lag for you

but you got almost double that so you could probably stream video at 1080p without any issues

[south cliff]

alr

[dusty cedar]

the higher quality you upload the more amount of bandwidth you need to have.

[twilit field]

Is this legit? I just found it while messing around with a build on part picker. AMD Ryzen™ 7 7700X 8-Core, 16-Thread Unlocked Desktop Processor https://a.co/d/1pe1E7e

Shoot. Thanks for checking that!

[potent portal]

If you're streaming you might need more than 11. Turn down your bit rate.

[earnest olive]

twitch limits bitrate to 8 mbps, so 11 mbps should be fine

I used to stream with 12 mbps upload speed and had no issues

if streaming on other platforms it could be an issue

[formal mica]

Anyone on that can help me

I just built the pc and I got no clue how this wifi works

[potent portal]

Have you installed the driver?

[formal mica]

Idk which one it is

[potent portal]

What board was it

[formal mica]

B650-P wifi

msi

[potent portal]

https://download.msi.com/dvr_exe/mb/amd_wifi_driver.zip

[formal mica]

use usb I guess rigjt

[potent portal]

To copy the files over yeah that's a good way

[formal mica]

becuase i got no internet to download those lol

[potent portal]

Got a phone?

[formal mica]

how do I swap my data from HDD to SSD again?

yes but dead why

[potent portal]

You could download on the phone and copy to the pc

[upper condor]

You can transfer ^

[potent portal]

macrium reflect

[formal mica]

how do i download those do I unzip which do I click

nvm literally a exe

file

[potent portal]

Once you have net access I'll give you a list of drivers you'll need/want also, and a couple other essentials

[formal mica]

ok

thx

should I do the macrium reflect first before all the drivers?

[potent portal]

It won't matter either way

[formal mica]

ok

[potent portal]

But driver installs might go faster off the ssd

[formal mica]

how long does it take for the reflect to happen its 900gb

of data

[potent portal]

That'll depend on the read speed of the hdd

Not too long usually

[formal mica]

so do I need to download free trial?

reflect 8 free

[potent portal]

yes the free version

[formal mica]

when you HDD is crashing from downloading something

oh yea I need the drivers for the m.2 its not reading

idk why

[potent portal]

Might need to initialize it

[formal mica]

oh okay thats what I thought

[potent portal]

Right click the start button and open disk management

It'll ask to initialize it, do so as GPT

[formal mica]

im already in it

but I dont see

it

I see team tm8fp6002t

nvm

I went to the wroung thing

well my motherboard has now detected all the drivers I need

[potent portal]

There's no exclamation points in device manager?

The SMbus is usually missed by the default drivers and you need that to control RGB

[formal mica]

okay

I dont get why my other monitor aint turning on

dood it takes this pc like 5 to 10mins to boot

this sucks

[obsidian wigeon]

Mem training be like

[formal mica]

its a HDD

I dont think its mem training

[obsidian wigeon]

Oh well then

[formal mica]

it was like this on my old system

[obsidian wigeon]

Yeah hdd moment

[formal mica]

thats why I need to swap to SSD is quick as possible I mean it crashes alsmot everytime I try to open something

so what do I do with macrium reflect once its downloaded

well nvm just watched a tutorial not that hard but this might take a long time

So whats the difference between SSD M.2 vs SSD drives which is faster also

[obsidian wigeon]

You meant nvme and sata?

Well the difference is that pcie interface allows much more bandwidth

Thus allowing higher speeds

Sata can only hit like 500 or so mb/s in sequential writes

While an nvme can be upwards of 5000 and above

An average budget nvme drive however hovers at 2/3000

Sequential write speed doesn't matter too much for day to day usage and gaming however

Random read and write speeds matters a lot more

[potent portal]

Once you install the GPU drivers it will

[obsidian wigeon]

^

[potent portal]

M.2 is the form factor. There's 2 main subtypes, PCIe and SATA. PCIe is WAY faster.

[left urchin]

So i never really thought to ask but my motherboard has little digital numbers that it cycles through an im just curious to know what they mean i cant find any info in my manual about them everything runs normal but apparently there called error codes or something

[potent portal]

Debug LEDs probably. If you ever aren't able to boot you can take that code and figure out why.

[formal mica]

im pretty sure I did

well I thought I did

Is there a Reason why when i open a tab its like 2fps

[upper condor]

Cyberpower is much better, still not the best choice if you're looking for value though

[earnest olive]

a code representing what step in the booting process the motherboard is currently at

it's not something you have to worry about if the system boots

it's designed so that if it fails to boot you can see at exactly which step it got stuck

very helpful for diagnosing hardware failures

[left urchin]

Ah thats cool like a check engine light

[rotund perch]

Hey I have a question

Rx 580 8 gb
16gb ram
Ryzen 5 2600
Asus b450f motherboard
1 tb harddrive
120 gb ssd
500w power supply

Is my build but I’m want to upgrade my graphics card to a Radeon Rx 6600 xt

Would my build be able to support it

[earnest olive]

should be fine, the 6600xt consumes less power than the rx 580 so power supply and case thermals won't be an issue

might be some slight bottlenecking depending on the game/res/settings but shouldn't be too bad

I would suggest also getting a larger ssd as a huge quality of life upgrade as they're getting very cheap now and 120gb ssd is quite miserable to use

you can get 1tb ssd for $45 nowadays, 512gb ssd for $28

https://www.newegg.com/team-group-mp33-1tb/p/N82E16820331417

[dawn iron]

anyone got any builds for a good starter gaming pc with upgradability

[rotund perch]

What would help with the bottle necking

How could I prevent and fix it

[gentle pollen]

Is no fix, all you can do is minimize it by getting a better CPU.

[rotund perch]

Okay thank you but my current cpu should be fine

For a Rx 6600

My current graphic card is a gtx 1650

[earnest olive]

like I said, it depends on the game, resolution, and settings

in general a ryzen 5 2600 should do alright with an rx 6600

overclocking cpu/ram could help partially or fully alleviate a bottleneck without spending money if you experience one, but that option comes with its own set of problems

[potent portal]

Budget? Do you have any parts already? What country?

[dawn iron]

US no budget but obv not top of the line stuff and i dont alr have parts

[potent portal]

Do you have any special needs like wifi?

[potent portal]

Here's a good entry level system. It'll be great for 1080p. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/r4JL8r

Plenty of upgrade potential there too

A 12400F would be a good option for CPU if you could spend a bit more on that.

[dawn iron]

no need for the wifi or operating system

[potent portal]

Windows is free to use anyway

You're only paying to use the personalization menu

[dawn iron]

yea

seems cheaper than what i was expecting lol

as long as i can upgrade it im fine

[potent portal]

It's a great time to build

[dawn iron]

from that build what should be the upgrades

like what should i focus on upgrading

[potent portal]

You can upgrade the CPU, RAM, and GPU. Which one you should do first depends on your target resolution and frame rate in the games you want to play.

As it stands you'll be able to play fortnite at 1080p ultra at a decent frame rate

[mossy venture]

Doesn't fortnite not play nicely with amd gpus? Or was that fixed

[lyric thistle]

Fortnite doesn't play on my computer

[dawn iron]

i dont play fortnite but idc about ultra graphics i just want high fps

i want to be able to run any game i want no matter if i have to run on low graphics for high fps but i just wanna be able to run literally everything

[earnest olive]

define run

[dawn iron]

dont want it to be choppy and i want the fps to be good

[formal mica]

Orange is it normal for Temps to go 40 to 90 on a cenabench r20

[earnest olive]

yes

[formal mica]

So everything should be fine?

[earnest olive]

check if your score is reasonable

[dawn iron]

like at least 100

[formal mica]

It was 7k

Something

I don't know if that's reasonable or not

Should input those cables underneath the gpu

[earnest olive]

a 7700x should get just shy of 8000 in cinebench r20

so if you're in the high 7000s with air cooling that's reasonable

hopefully it's high 7000s

[formal mica]

I'll do it again once I get home but is that safe for it to be that hot

[earnest olive]

yes

[formal mica]

Ok when reached that hot I thought put to much thermal paste or heat sink not on. It

[earnest olive]

ryzen 7000 cpus are designed to boost until 95c under load

[formal mica]

Ohhhh

I didn't know that

So it's fine for being that hot

[earnest olive]

it just means it’s trying to squeeze as much performance out of itself as possible, but everyone thinks it’s overheating

both intel and amd forums are plagued with people asking if their cpu is too hot nowadays

[formal mica]

Yes it's my first cpu since 2016 and I've never seen it get that hot

[lament fulcrum]

Enough or too much? I always can never tell

[formal mica]

I mean you have to spread it evenly on top

You only want a thin layer

[potent portal]

Easy to do with that build, no worries

If you can go for the 12400F though like I said, it'll help in future games that use more threads

[dawn iron]

would it also be better to go ahead and upgrade the power supply?

[potent portal]

The power supply is good. B tier 750W can handle a 6800 XT upgrade or a 4070 ti.

[earnest olive]

you don’t have to do this

but pea method is generally not advised on ryzen

better use X method on ryzen

[potent portal]

I do X on mine too

Unless my paste came with a spatula

[earnest olive]

I just did X method on this 5800X3D, thermals are perfect

theoretically X method should be better than spreading, as there’s a chance of introducing air bubbles while spreading

practically I’ve never seen a real difference

spread method can be nice for peace of mind

downside is that you have to clean the spatula afterward lol

[earnest olive]

the cooler mounting pressure (assuming you’re hopefully mounting it correctly) applies an order of magnitude more force than you could with your spatula (you’d break it very quickly), so there’s no reason to worry about having a thin layer, physics will do it for you

[potent portal]

Air bubbles I've never seen as an actual problem, at least not in many years. I did once see it explode rather violently, but that was ages ago.

[earnest olive]

you… what

explosive thermal paste

[potent portal]

Not like a fiery explosion or anything

[earnest olive]

but yeah that’s why I said theoretically

[potent portal]

Just a loud BANG and paste everywhere lol

[formal mica]

Lol

Explsoive

[earnest olive]

I mean even if you introduce air bubbles while spreading I’m pretty sure the cooler mounting pressure will get the air pocket out of the paste anyways

but theoretically it’s better to not spread and just never have an air pocket in your thermal paste to begin with

but practically yeah it’s not going to matter

[potent portal]

If the tolerances are good and there's tight contact yeah it'll be fine, but coolers where you can feel the gaps between the cold plate and pipes? Ehhhhh

[earnest olive]

just don’t use pea method, because you might not get good coverage with it

[potent portal]

Or if you do use pea method just dump a bunch of paste so you can be sure it spreads

[earnest olive]

yeah

[potent portal]

No such thing as too much

[earnest olive]

I even use X method on intel nowadays

just better

[formal mica]

Uhh last time I checked if you put to much paste it'll do the opposite affect

[potent portal]

I use a thick line on LGA1700 because of the elongated CPU

[earnest olive]

this has been disproven so many times

[potent portal]

No it just squeezes out the excess

[earnest olive]

so, so, so many times

[potent portal]

Liquid metal on the other hand...

[earnest olive]

LM will also squeeze out on the sides
unfortunately with LM that becomes an issue LOL

mm, look at all that conductive gallium bridging your mosfets together

what could go wrong?

[formal mica]

Well is there anything else that's been disproven that I should know

[potent portal]

There's tons of computer myths

[earnest olive]

well I have no way to know what misinformation you’ve picked up

[potent portal]

Oh here's a good one, socks on carpet will kill your computer. False.

[earnest olive]

lmao

here’s a good one

xmp timings matter when running xmp

[formal mica]

What's xmp

[potent portal]

Basic overclocking profile to run the rated speed and timing

[formal mica]

Oh so the Expo for my ram

[potent portal]

yeah

[formal mica]

What's some things I should do with my computer

[potent portal]

That is the most broad question I've seen today

[lament fulcrum]

It just gets messy. Like how messy it was when i figured out i mounted the cooler upside down just now. So much clean up. Put a definite smaller pea sized amount. About to do thermal tests

[formal mica]

Well I was taught it cause a barrier between the heatsink and the cou

Like bios or anything for cpu and gpu settings

[potent portal]

It's thermally conductive, and the mounting pressure of the cooler will squeeze any that isn't needed to fill the gaps off the sides of the CPU

[dawn iron]

what ab modern warfare

[potent portal]

With "competitive" settings absolutely

[dawn iron]

so the total is about 1k with the monitor

not bad

[potent portal]

You don't need to spend too much on a monitor https://pcpartpicker.com/product/zzVmP6/gigabyte-g24f-2-238-1920-x-1080-180-hz-monitor-g24f-2

Puts it closer to $900 and tax

[dawn iron]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/hy4BD3/asus-vg248qg-240-1920x1080-165-hz-monitor-vg248qg

i chose this one

[potent portal]

Oof that's a TN panel

2008 called they want their panel back

[earnest olive]

I personally rather enjoy turning my computer on

[languid nimbus]

smh

[humble fossil]

what is the best panel IPS?

[potent portal]

Best for the price, yes IPS

[leaden bay]

Can someone help me with a part list

[formal mica]

My man is the Smartestpants ever

[potent portal]

Budget and country?

[leaden bay]

1500 us

I have a list but idk if it is right

[potent portal]

1440p or 4k?

[leaden bay]

Uhm

Tbh I have no clue I use 1080

[formal mica]

Oof

[potent portal]

Well you can do a 4k build with 1500 or do a 1250 build and a 250 1440p monitor

[leaden bay]

I have a really expensive moniter I jus don’t remember specs

[formal mica]

whats it called

[leaden bay]

I jus wanna be able to run games like escape from tarkov

[formal mica]

might be sticker on the back

[leaden bay]

I have a Asus ROG swift pg279

Idk if that’s good or what

[potent portal]

Ah that's a 1440p

[leaden bay]

Is that good enough

[formal mica]

yes

[potent portal]

Yeah fairly decent

Ok 1500 1440p build coming up

[leaden bay]

I mean

I would want the price low as can so I dont have to spend as much

My computer rn is jus not it and I would rather get the most bang for my buck

[potent portal]

Adding "reasonable picks" to requirements list ✅

[leaden bay]

Thx

So wait are u making a part list

[humble fossil]

hi

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KTMsd9

I want a lower price please

[leaden bay]

?

[potent portal]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jK7Vxs

[leaden bay]

So is everything compatible

[potent portal]

Yes 100%

[humble fossil]

nvm wrong chat sry

[leaden bay]

Do I need to buy any like other things to put it together or will it come with everything with the parts

[potent portal]

It'll have everything you need included

[leaden bay]

Ok tysm

[potent portal]

Happy to help

[humble fossil]

.

[potent portal]

Yep taking a look now jack

[humble fossil]

take ur time

[potent portal]

12600k is better than the 13400

[humble fossil]

it’s from someone i know

[humble fossil]

he want to gaming and good pc for long time

gaming, little editing etc…

[potent portal]

Not a lot of adjustments that I could make to the list. I could make it better for the same price or a little cheaper.
Here's the slightly cheaper option

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qqhfXy

Also I REALLY wouldn't spend that on a 3060 right now

You can get a 6650 XT for $260

And it beats the 3060

[humble fossil]

isn’t NVIDIA better in stream cores or like this?

[potent portal]

AMD is basically equal in streaming now

They improved the encoder a lot

[earnest olive]

in av1? or in everything

[humble fossil]

before 2 mo prices were better

wdym orange

[potent portal]

Everything

[earnest olive]

interesting

I heard that they had good AV1 but we're still behind in h264

[potent portal]

Nvidia still technically wins with nvenc but it's a very small lead that makes no real world difference

Plus the 6650 being a stronger GPU in general makes up that gap

[earnest olive]

should also figure out if that editing mentioned requires cuda in any way

[potent portal]

I had assumed it was light clip editing from screen recordings, that's the most common

[cyan ravine]

H.264 amd still sucks big time *quality-wise

[earnest olive]

could be, but could be some video editing software where radeon can't compete

[cyan ravine]

It doesn't do well with it, but h.265 and av1 I would argue are better then nvidia overall

You really shouldn't use h.264 in 2023 anyway, literal 720p moment onto anything it touches lol

Isn't twitch like the only thing still on h.264? Or is it h.265

[earnest olive]

yeah unfortunately h.264 will remain relevant until twitch switches off of it sometime in 2273

[cyan ravine]

There's talk of it soon

[earnest olive]

april 2273 is soon

I think twitch is the only significant platform still using it

[cyan ravine]

Lemme find the like

Link*

https://www.forbes.com/sites/tiriasresearch/2023/04/06/amd-builds-breakthrough-av1-encoder-chip-for-massive-streaming-services/amp/

Apparently the parent company of twitch has bought a literal boatload of these

Amazon?

[earnest olive]

does discord support AMD AV1?

[vague oracle]

Idk why I like this sticker so much lmao

[cyan ravine]

It supports nvidia av1, not sure about amd av1

[earnest olive]

I only heard about it supporting ADA AV1

[cyan ravine]

My xtx is still out of the pc rn to check

[earnest olive]

I would really like for discord to support intel QSV

[humble fossil]

83*c

[earnest olive]

my 13700K has AV1 encoding capabilities

but discord can't leverage them

[potent portal]

That's the processor at 83

[humble fossil]

wdym

[earnest olive]

lmao did you really look up a youtube benchmark to try to show it overheating as a reason to not buy it

[potent portal]

Well you replied to me talking about a GPU so I thought you were talking about the GPU, but the GPU is at 72

[earnest olive]

and get the wrong temperature in the process

there are 3060s with crappy coolers that run hot btw

[cyan ravine]

83 isn't even overheating

[humble fossil]

noo

[cyan ravine]

95 core is too hot, 110 edge is too hot/throttle

[earnest olive]

ehhh 83 is stock throttle limit

[cyan ravine]

Same for both ryzen 5000 and rdna 2

[earnest olive]

I'd say 83c gpu is overheating for a casual user that isn't going to adjust throttle limit

[humble fossil]

oh

[earnest olive]

I had a 2070 super ventus in a bad case that would hit 83c and begin thermal throttling at completely stock settings

[cyan ravine]

I guess but like, I'm also stressing that overheating is a long way away

[earnest olive]

would drop like 300mhz to thermal throttling at stock settings

I would definitely call that overheating

[cyan ravine]

Also all different gpu architectures have different throttles lol

[vague oracle]

My friend has a 3050 hitting 90C

[earnest olive]

MSI made a real winner of a card

sounds like a failed fan or a disaster of a fan curve or something

maybe he wrapped it in a towel

[vague oracle]

It’s in some unknown aliexpress case with no airflow

[potent portal]

Or put it in an alienware pc

Yeah or that

[vague oracle]

I took a look at it and the fan curve is fine and both fans work

[cyan ravine]

Either way 83 isn't hot

Ryzen is just a hot boi

[cyan ravine]

97%

69c

[earnest olive]

83 is perfectly fine for any modern cpu yeah

that video probably has it using the stock cooler

[vague oracle]

69C is nice

[earnest olive]

if it's hitting 83c in gaming

[cyan ravine]

And 69C is good btw for 6650xt

[vague oracle]

In both ways

[earnest olive]

69c is a fantastic temp for any gpu

[cyan ravine]

Yeah

[humble fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/blinking-eyes-white-guy-blinking-meme-what-huh-gif-26334322

[vague oracle]

Not as nice as my 40C 6800xt lol

how I miss you

[cyan ravine]

We mean it both ways lmao

[earnest olive]

I've had my intel igpu hit 85c before

lmao

[cyan ravine]

Just look at laptops

100C all day

[humble fossil]

yup

[cyan ravine]

With their cringe paste jobs it do be like that

[vague oracle]

My 2080 super rn

And that’s basically founders edition

[earnest olive]

my laptop disagrees 😠

[vague oracle]

You see my laptop’s LM application?

[humble fossil]

i have one it’s overheating i need to upgrade to pc

[earnest olive]

overclock the fans

[humble fossil]

86*c gpu 90+ cpu

[cyan ravine]

About to pass out after party night

[earnest olive]

I had a 5700xt whose fans could go up to 6700 RPM, I could hardly believe what gigabyte was cooking

[humble fossil]

it’s like a air fryer

[vague oracle]

You mean it’s a 6700xt?

[humble fossil]

it’s locked idk how

[earnest olive]

6700 RPM was so loud I could put it downstairs then go upstairs and across the house and still hear the gpu very clearly

wouldn't be surprised if the decibel rating was in the 60s or even 70s

[earnest olive]

that was a joke

[vague oracle]

Blower?

[earnest olive]

and not aimed at you

[earnest olive]

nope, triple axial

[humble fossil]

idk how in msi app

[vague oracle]

Really??

[earnest olive]

it was a dreamer for sure

[humble fossil]

but the laptop app it’s sick

[potent portal]

You can technically by feeding it more voltage, but they tend to die around 14v

[humble fossil]

when i use performance mode sometimes the game crash

i try to put it in the normal

and i reset the laptop to solve it