#building-and-recc-chat

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mystic needle
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anything sketchy about this?

fossil cedar
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Holy link

mystic needle
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I KNOW

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idk what made it so massive😭

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im on my phone rn idk if that did anything

languid nimbus
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Jesus

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There you go

untold vessel
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GUYS! What is the absolute BEST and BIGGEST TV that $800 can buy?

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More importantly, what mixture of Deep Color, Response Time, and other premium features + General Size would be the optimum mixture for $800?

mystic needle
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quick question about this build, how upgradeable do you think it’ll be in the future

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my friend is asking about if he could upgrade in the future

upper oriole
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what is best to look at when dealing with temp? i have hwmonitor installed and i have armoury crate since asus mb. armoury crate is saying temps are about 10 degrees c less than hwmonitor.. which one should i be believiing??

weary galleon
upper oriole
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it works for windows 11?

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says 10 and lower

weary galleon
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Pretty sure it will

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Can't hurt to try

potent portal
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It works on 11 100%

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Website just needs updating for that

tawdry lance
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What am5 7700x build would you guys reccomend if I am looking to get that free DDR5 bundled at microcenter?

cyan ravine
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This is a serious question like, if you need TV features or not

flint sapphire
untold vessel
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But I am using it as a PC Monitor for Movies and Shows

cyan ravine
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Ah ok

untold vessel
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Essentially making it a TV that uses my main PC to access shows and movies so i don't have to work with a fire stick

cyan ravine
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Cos there's a monitor I simp hard for at 800 that's tv sized

cyan ravine
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FV43U

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It's a gigglebit but it's simp-worthy

untold vessel
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nice nice

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I'm looking for something even bigger though

flint sapphire
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Is that the oled šŸ‘€

untold vessel
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75" preferably

cyan ravine
flint sapphire
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That Hisense I linked is pretty god tier for $800 btw kekw

untold vessel
cyan ravine
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QLED is like, near OLED colour, good contrast (not quite as good as oled) but has zero burn-in

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It uses an array of small led's

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I prefer qled over oled

dim forge
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ok I got rid of the idea of building an itx pc bc

itx = expensive af

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so, any matx b660 recommendation?

cyan ravine
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B660m ds3h

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Works up to 13600/12700 pretty handily

potent portal
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ITX do be pricy

dim forge
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fr 😭

dim forge
cyan ravine
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Ye the wifi version just has a wifi chip tacked on with a couple aerials

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Board itself is the same

dim forge
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alright I think I'll just pair it with a 12400

cyan ravine
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Sounds good

dim forge
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any thoughts on td500 mesh?

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Idk which midtower case is okaish under 80 bucks

cyan ravine
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It's ok

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Fractal focus 2 is better imo

digital nebula
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OK so I'm trying to upgrade some things. I will send the list of upgrades that I have. I'm looking to get an aio for my cpu. So I felt this would be a good place to ask

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I plan on getting a case but I'm not too sure what kind of theme I want. If anything I would like some kind of white theme so a white aio would be nice if I decided to get the white case

frigid night
frigid night
digital nebula
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My list of upgrade is- 5800x3d, 3070ti, thermal take 750watt 80 gold plus psu, and if I'm lucky an asus rog crosshair dark hero viii

frigid night
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Or do you already have all that?

digital nebula
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That's what I'm upgrading to

frigid night
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Gotcha. Just clarifying.

digital nebula
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I'm still waiting on the motherboard

frigid night
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Me personally. I'd go with the White Galahad 360. It's sleek and the pump has LED in it as well. As for case.. I currently have a White 5000D Airflow and I like it.

digital nebula
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I was hoping to get a lian li case. I found one that I think would be nice. Big issue would be is if the rig is too heavy idk if my thing could hold it seeing as it's on wheels and a bit wobbly

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So basically I'd be getting an aio if I get the case I'm talking about I'd need a new holder or desk to place it on if the one I have rn can't hold it

fossil cedar
digital nebula
cyan ravine
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I'm pretty sure based on the parts you have in mind we can get you a stronger gpu

frigid night
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Omg it's back in stock.

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@cyan ravine convince me it's a good idea to buy the o11 dynamic evo white.

fossil cedar
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Reo your poor wallet

frigid night
cyan ravine
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not Apaltek?

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Am i remembering that wrong?

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reddit seems to agree but reddit dum

fossil cedar
frigid night
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But I've been waiting for this case to go back in stock for like 2 or 3 months now

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My current case cost me $13 and is serving me well lol

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But I mean.. imagine spending as much as people do on pc parts that are overpriced.

fossil cedar
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FIFTY DOLLARS

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30$ max imo

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It's just a lil bit of plastic with sometimes some pleather

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Lol

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Wdym?

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NOT THE INTEL STICKER

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Rommy you just need to invent case that tases you if you don't own it

cyan ravine
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don't taze me bro

fossil cedar
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If you hold it for 2 seconds without unlocking it it tases you

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Ez pz

frigid night
fossil cedar
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Skill issue

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Tough crap

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You'll only be shocked for 3 seconds you'll be fine

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Lol

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Use it to light a candle

elfin flame
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The other night she handed me it because I was in the city at night moving stuff around to my place

Told her no and she turned it on right in front of my face, which is a no for me

fossil cedar
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Jeez

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Go full daredevil

cyan ravine
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m?

fossil cedar
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Rommy you've been working out dam /s

obsidian wigeon
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whoa

fossil cedar
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Kek

tawdry lance
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What am5 7700x build would you guys reccomend if I am looking to get that free DDR5 bundled at microcenter?

mossy venture
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And what you're using the pc for

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And a few other things such as if you need wifi, do you care about looks, any other specifics you're looking for

fossil cedar
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Also of the 7700 non x is any cheaper you can get and basically have no diff in perf

cyan ravine
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if the microcenter deal bundles it tho

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otherwise no no

cyan ravine
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then send us ur budget for everything else

fossil cedar
cyan ravine
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200 afaik

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apparently ds3h isn't the most reasonable choice but needs looking into

leaden raft
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am i supposed to put a 240 or a 280 in the meshilicious

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and would the nzxt one fit

tawdry lance
mossy venture
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I'd do that, can change gpu for a used high 30 series if you're fine with a used gpu

leaden raft
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sorry im getting so confused some places say i can put a 280 in my case and some places say i cant

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any ideas?

leaden raft
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meshilicous

tawdry lance
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Thx @mossy venture. I will keep a look out for any good used 30 series deals.

mossy venture
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It supports 280mm, but possibly only certain ones. With some the radiator might be too thick or tubing might get in the way

leaden raft
mossy venture
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What model aio?

leaden raft
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x63

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just found this

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looks like exactly what im doing

mossy venture
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Nzxt aios are overpriced

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I wouldnt bother with them

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Though actually, if you want a white 280mm there aren't many better options. There might be an EK one

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Aside from that idt there are any

fossil cedar
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There is no white ek

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If you want white you're stuck with a 240mm

mossy venture
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Sadge

fossil cedar
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Or like a corsair or something

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And when choosing ITX aios you need to choice aois that don't have vertical tubed coming out of the block

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So no evga clc, no lf2 etc

cyan ravine
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I would just change case instead of going with a kraken aio

stoic island
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You can prob do ls520, although tubes are a bit stiff

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240mm and you can stay with the meshilicious

green egret
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Can someone help me with installing fans

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Which side is intake and out? And i have 3 intake in front.. gona make back 1 exhaust and top one intake?

mossy venture
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The sticker is the front of the fan

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If the fan is mounted with the sticker forwards, it's blowing air out the back of the fan

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Top fan should be exhaust, not intake

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@green egret

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The arctic sticker

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This way

green egret
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Thanks . Also. If I leave my case open should I make the fans intake instead of exhaust?

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Like if I leave my side panel open

stoic island
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Exhaust top whenever possible

green egret
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But if it’s open case does it matter? .. the problem I’m facing is my cpu will spike to 80C when playing apex. It’s open case right now with no fans inside. Only 3 intake in front.

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Btw do I just turn off my pc and daisy chain these 2 fans and just plug it into my motherboard

mossy venture
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Also 80c isn't an issue

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Though, if you're getting that gaming multi core loads would likely overheat

green egret
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I want it to run cooler I play competitive

mossy venture
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What cpu and cpu cooler.

green egret
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i5-12400f stock… it’s open right now and I don’t have any inside fans

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So temp is fine but I’m installing 2 fans

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But I know if it’s open then the airflow changes

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So I’m wondering if it’s better to do exhaust at bak and intake top

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I’m gona test them out 1 by 1

mossy venture
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A case with good airflow closed is better than a case with good airflow open

green egret
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I just put an exhaust on back

mossy venture
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Heat rises

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It wants to exit at the top

green egret
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I kno but the case is open

mossy venture
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Doesn't matter

green egret
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Hmm true

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Before I start my pc is there anything I need to do

mossy venture
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You also likely won't get much better Temps just from case fans, if you really want cpu Temps lower you'd want a better cooler

green egret
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I turned off my psu then screwed the fan on case and plugged it into sys_fan

mossy venture
green egret
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Yea I was thinking abt buying coolermaster aio for $100

mossy venture
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Hell no

green egret
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I don’t need to do any thing in bios ?

mossy venture
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Ag620 or ak620 is as good as a 240mm aio

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Nah, unless they're pwm fans and they don't automatically get set as pwm

green egret
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How do I kno if they’re pwm

mossy venture
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Though those are 100% complete overkill for a 12400f

green egret
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I think that’s overkill for my pc tbh. My temps aren’t bad right now

mossy venture
green egret
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I don’t hav the box

mossy venture
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If not, the listing you ordered them from

green egret
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They are attic

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Arctic

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Prob one

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Pmw*

mossy venture
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Yes, p12s have different versions

green egret
mossy venture
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Pwm pst, pwm, pst, and regular

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Those are pwm pst

obsidian wigeon
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Do they have a cable that splits into two?

mossy venture
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Didn't know it said on the stickers

obsidian wigeon
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Yeah then it's pwm for sure

green egret
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So wit do I need to do

mossy venture
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It's pwm pst, says on the back sticker

obsidian wigeon
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And yeah it just said on the sticker

mossy venture
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Well, turn the pc all the way on

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If the fans are low rpm on boot then they're set to pwm

green egret
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What’s pwm mean

mossy venture
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They adjust rpm according to temps

green egret
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Looks like it’s running fast

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Yeah looks full speed

mossy venture
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Wait for it to get to windows

obsidian wigeon
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pulse width modulation, simply more advanced control than dc

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dc has fixed rpm

green egret
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Lol looks like it’s just staying full speed

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Which is fine w me

obsidian wigeon
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where have you plugged it into?

green egret
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Quiet af

obsidian wigeon
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4 pin fan header?

green egret
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I have a b660m mortar msi

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Yea 4 pin

obsidian wigeon
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you can adjust them later in bios if you want

green egret
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It’s got 4 pins on it tho

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Nah idc it should be ok

obsidian wigeon
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but they're silent even at max rpm

green egret
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Yeah it’s rly quiet

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I’m gona add my other one after I see temps change

green egret
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Is it possible to set the cpu fan speed without going into bios?

mossy venture
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Not that I know of

obsidian wigeon
long stratus
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i know some mboards require 12th gen cpu for a BIOS update and dont want to get this and not be able to use it or upadte it.

jagged ember
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They call it Q-Flash

long stratus
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Thank you so much.

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To be clear, it is compatible with the i5-13400f and will allow lighting up of rgb fans? With those cleared up for me (noob), i can go ahead and purchase. šŸ™‚

jagged ember
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It has two rgb fan headers

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Also supports 13400f

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Same socket type as 12th gen

long stratus
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Thank you!

untold vessel
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Guys, I need second, third, fourth, etc., Opinions on this Battle:

Which one should I get? I'd be using this TV as a Second "Monitor" for my PC to watch movies and TV Shows on. I prefer the 75" with Hisense, but also am Considering the $100 price decrease with the TCL.

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/hisense-75-class-u6h-series-quantum-uled-4k-uhd-smart-google-tv/6505546.p?skuId=6505546

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/tcl-65-class-6-series-mini-led-qled-4k-uhd-smart-google-tv/6470277.p?skuId=6470277

Best Buy

Shop Hisense 75" Class U6H Series Quantum ULED 4K UHD Smart Google TV at Best Buy. Find low everyday prices and buy online for delivery or in-store pick-up. Price Match Guarantee.

strong raft
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@long stratus @jagged ember qflash Plus* is what generally gives flashback. Edit: ok, that mobo has qflash plus, nice. šŸ‘

long stratus
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Yeah just ordered. Thank you for your input.

digital nebula
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Ok so best aio for 5800x3d? Any suggestions?

cyan ravine
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LS720

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/LT720

fossil cedar
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Arctic liquid freezer 360mm or 420mm if your case fits it as well

neon geode
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looking for the best pefromance i can get out of a pc for 1600-1800$

digital nebula
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Rounded up to be around 1600 or so

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I'll send the components when I get home from work

tropic ginkgo
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Guys

digital nebula
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Sorry for the curse word it autocorrected

tropic ginkgo
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Sadly I got my computer cmos ded

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Or that what appears to be

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Happened 4 months ago

fossil cedar
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And what country

neon geode
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im planning on building it myself

tropic ginkgo
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If I change a CMOS the BIOS won't go

fossil cedar
neon geode
digital nebula
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I'm still waiting9 n my motherboard and I ordered it on the 28th

cyan ravine
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1600 will get you a good balanced 4070 Ti* build probs

digital nebula
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Yup

fossil cedar
cyan ravine
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Ah pato you bonk

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We basically did the same build wth

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Pick mine I have overclocking ExcitedCatBlob

digital nebula
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I got a 4070ti, asus rog crosshair dark hero viii, 5800x3d, 32 gigs of ram and a 750 watt 80 gold plus psu

neon geode
fossil cedar
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You're welcome

cyan ravine
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Reeee

cyan ravine
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Also dark hero is a bit pointless for x3d

fossil cedar
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Unless you already have am4 board from previous build

cyan ravine
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You buy it for OC yet the chip is locked

fossil cedar
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Dark hero is a bit pointless full stop

cyan ravine
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So board is a bit moot

fossil cedar
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Dark hero is for ln2 heads

cyan ravine
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Well

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Ram oc heads too

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Good topology

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But again, pointless for x3d

fossil cedar
cyan ravine
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Eh ur mum

fossil cedar
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Fair point

cyan ravine
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I love how that's becoming a pet phrase now kek

analog pulsar
sly holly
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Hey, me and my dad put the motherboard and cpu in the computer, connected it with everything and added water cooling in since old heat sync was too big. We plugged everything in and the monitor says no signal. What do I do?

stoic island
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Had anything else changed? Did it boot previously? Does it turn on at all or just doesn't turn on? Do fans spin?

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If it worked previously and all you did was take the Mobo out to install a new cooler, most likely, some connector came loose or you might've forgotten to reconnect one of the connectors, eps12v being common since it's up in the corner and out of sight.

sly holly
stoic island
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What Mobo and CPU? Does the motherboard have debug LEDs?

sly holly
stoic island
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Have you updated the bios on the Mobo?

sly holly
stoic island
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The board has flashback, there's a mid-board q flash plus button, do you have an extra USB drive you can use?

sly holly
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Yes

stoic island
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Using another computer, download the bios file from gigabyte's site, unzip the file, and rename the file (not the folder) to gigabyte.bin, and put it on the USB stick
https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/B660M-AORUS-PRO-AX-DDR4-rev-1x/support#support-dl

GIGABYTE

Lasting Quality from GIGABYTE.GIGABYTE Ultra Durableā„¢ motherboards bring together a unique blend of features and technologies that offer users the absolute ...

sly holly
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Would the bios update even have something to do with the problem?

stoic island
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My guess right now is that the board doesn't have the bios version that supports 13th gen, and that's why it's not booting right now

sly holly
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So I would need a completely empty flash drive with only the update on there?

stoic island
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It looks for the file, which is why you need to rename it to gigabyte.bin

languid nimbus
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So my wife’s laptop corrupted windows (I believe) when updating the other day, so now I need a boot drive for windows. She was on windows 10. Can I just go ahead and download windows 11, or does it need to be the latest version of 10? Any ideas?

sly holly
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And then it downloads/updates it?

stoic island
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Yes

stoic island
languid nimbus
stoic island
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Yea, if the windows repair thing isn't working

languid nimbus
sly holly
stoic island
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I'll need to check what gigabyte does but for MSI, there's a light that starts flashing, and when it stops flashing, it's finished

sly holly
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Ok I'll try it

stoic island
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Gigabyte should do the same thing, their documentation is a bit bad though

sly holly
strong raft
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Using hdmi into gpu?

sly holly
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I'm using display port. I tried hdmi. Still didn't work

strong raft
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Stick to hdmi for 1st boot.

digital nebula
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does anyone know how many fans you can fit in the lian li o11 dynamic evo white case?

cyan ravine
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22

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I know because I've done it

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Hell, 24 if you're ambitious enough

potent portal
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10 mount points officially but yeah there's ways to put more lol

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(not including air cooler fans)

cyan ravine
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Maybe even 25 lmao

digital nebula
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my plan is to mount the aio fans and what not on the top hopefully a 3 fan aio. i have 4 fans in my pc that i have rn so i can put three of them on the front

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and the plan would be like white black white so id need probably 2 to 3 fans on the bottom of the case that are white

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this is my first time building a pc so im scared to mess up but if i have a fresh case and something that i can actually look at and know how to put together i think i can do it

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i just dont know what size

stoic island
digital nebula
potent portal
digital nebula
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ok so 120mm is probly my best bet

potent portal
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If you want it to look filled out yes

open jungle
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And so it begins.

digital nebula
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well im gonna get the aio and the case probly. gonna set 3 or 4 fans i already have in the new case then

stoic island
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Good luck

digital nebula
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now if i really wanted to i could just get 3 more fans i just dont know which kind would fit the theme and which would be best lmao

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i was told i should avoid unifans

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i found these but am i really getting 3 or is that just the picture?

sly holly
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@stoic island would having 2 different ram brands be a problem? I've been having 2 Viper ram sticks and 2 Oloy ram sticks on old motherboard and it worked fine

stoic island
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For booting, it might be helpful to just leave one kit in slot 2&4 just for the time being to have less factors, but in general, it should work

cyan ravine
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@digital nebula can you make a pcpartpicker list please or give us a budget

sly holly
potent portal
potent portal
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Try just one stick

digital nebula
cyan ravine
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It's important because given your budget you may be able to afford a lot more by changing things like the mobo for example

potent portal
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You'll also sometimes get a dud in a kit of 2 sticks, where one just plain died sometime after testing.

digital nebula
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the case and aio im looking at is like 358

cyan ravine
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Sounds like too much

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G360A and LT720 add up to like 210 and you shouldn't go higher

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220?

sly holly
potent portal
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Well there's also the times where a kit doesn't like a specific platform, or a specific board

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I still say try just one stick

cyan ravine
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Ram sticks can just randomly die

digital nebula
cyan ravine
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We've seen it a lot of times here

digital nebula
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now the prices are different cause i got most of these things on sale

cyan ravine
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What have you just bought?

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Can you mark in things which are more than a month old as purchased for me?

digital nebula
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everything in that list is what i have just bought aside from the case the aio and i bought the motherboard it still hasnt arrived

cyan ravine
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Ok so it's all, basically new, ye?

digital nebula
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yeah aside from the ram, ive had that

cyan ravine
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Ok sweet, the answer I was looking for

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White pc, yes?

digital nebula
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yeah

cyan ravine
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Give me 5-10

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Brb

digital nebula
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so what i havnt bought yet is the case the aio and whatever i may need or would have suggested

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the aio is a guarantee like ik im gonna need that anything else can be like a maybe

untold vessel
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Despite an eye-widening price, thoughts on this monitor? https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B096YNP6ZR?tag=rtings-mn-r-amazon-20&ie=UTF8&th=1

cyan ravine
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I changed a lot

digital nebula
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havnt had any experience doing it

cyan ravine
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Significant upgrade tho in cpu and gpu

cyan ravine
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The rest I can work with

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You also didn't have an ssd listed so I added a good one for gaming

digital nebula
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the motherboard hasnt arrived and i would need to get a refund if it doesnt come. i bought a 1tb ssd from my job.

cyan ravine
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Ah ok so we can factor out the ssd then

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I'll mark it as purchased

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But at the very least return those three

digital nebula
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whats good about the phanteks case?

cyan ravine
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It fits a 360 aio on top

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And does just about everything you want for a lower price

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O11 evo on the other hand has no fans, so it's not just, what, 189?

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You gotta get fans too

digital nebula
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it also includes 3 fans lmao

cyan ravine
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No

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The aio does

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But o11 evo, I own one

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Came with no fans

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O11 mini's come with fans

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But not the regular ones

digital nebula
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no im talking about the case. the pictures on newegg say it comes with 3 fans

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and i got three fans in the pc im using rn that i can take out

cyan ravine
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Mine didn't come with fans

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Lol

digital nebula
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ill technically be trying to sell the parts that im using rn for a bit of money back

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253 would be the total for the aio and the case itself

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i mean im down to just order the case and the aio and see if the case comes with some fans if not then i can always order a few

cyan ravine
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That's still significantly better

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If you can take the cpu back as well as the motherboard (especially the motherboard, it's zero value for your specific cpu)

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You'll gain a lot more in the budget

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Psu as well, $20 more gets a tier A choice instead

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And 100 more watts

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These changes will get you up to a 4080 or XTX instead

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Which is a good, 20-30% more fps?

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It's well worth doing

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We could also pick a cheaper cooler and go with the AK620 WH

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Which is enough but will limit headroom on either chip

cyan ravine
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O11's are known for not shipping with fans

digital nebula
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im talking about the phanteks pc case

cyan ravine
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Oh the phanteks does

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Sorry

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I was misreading the context ig

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13600K tho, performs about the same as x3d in games, but also has an incredible amount more multi-core performance

digital nebula
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youre good. also i can do something about the motherboard if it doesnt come but anything else id much rather keep ive had it sitting on my bed and what not for a while. its a major jump from what im getting as for fps rn so im happy no matter what

cyan ravine
#

Well we can work to x3d

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But def motherboard and psu need to go back

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Those are your 4080 money

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Or rather, if not that, money well saved

potent portal
#

7800X3D comes next month

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Just saying

cyan ravine
#

It does but mobo and ddr5 costs

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Not to mention 3d tax

#

It'll have it's niche but I doubt it'll be close in adoption price to the zen 3 chip

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Ok give me 5 minutes

digital nebula
#

so whats the point of not getting the motherboard i got, and the psu

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i already have the psu and i understand that its not an 800 watt but its an 80+ gold with enough to even run what i need

leaden raft
#

Pc no work sad

cyan ravine
#

It's a board for the unhinged, not for X3D

jagged ember
#

If you enjoy ln2 cooling and spreading Vaseline all over your motherboard

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It's for you

digital nebula
#

well im not too sure if ill ever OC if anything couldnt i just overclock the mobo and the gpu? im not super knowledgeable on that kind of stuff

jagged ember
#

Yeah you don't need that Mobo in any way shape or form lol

cyan ravine
jagged ember
#

It'll ensure your pc doesn't explode while you're gaming

cyan ravine
#

Granted a 4070Ti is low draw, we could go lower power

jagged ember
#

Spend more on a PSU and less on the Mobo with features you'll never use

cyan ravine
#

I'll put a 650W in this next list

jagged ember
#

That is the way

cyan ravine
digital nebula
#

ok so if the motherboard never comes in whats my mover for mobo?

cyan ravine
#

Return it

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Return it and get the one I listed

jagged ember
#

Indeed

#

Literally just use his list

cyan ravine
#

Same black aesthetic, both have bios flash, both are functionally the same for you, one is 260$ cheaper lol

jagged ember
#

260 dollars cheaper?

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On godd

cyan ravine
#

One doesn't have a little lcd but meh, there's much cheaper ways to get an lcd in your system, far less than 260$

jagged ember
#

7" lil LCD screen taped to the glass side panel

cyan ravine
#

Old phone stonks

jagged ember
#

Oh true

cyan ravine
#

Or a pi screen

jagged ember
#

Mmm

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Yeah I like the pi screen idea

cyan ravine
#

Then you can even game on it šŸ’€

jagged ember
#

Now if I could get my hands on one

cyan ravine
#

Amazon is great for those

#

$60?

#

Comes with screw mount points

jagged ember
#

That's pretty sick

cyan ravine
#

But tape works in the right places

jagged ember
#

But I'll probably just tape it yeah

potent portal
jagged ember
#

Indeed

#

Pis are short supply

cyan ravine
#

But we shave a good few hundred dollars from the build without really giving up aesthetics, and will perform exactly the same

digital nebula
#

yeah i appreciate the help on suggesting the aio and stuff but i really dont feel the need to return items that ive already gotten and waited to use. even if it hasnt been taken out of the box. i can get a different mobo if needed when things go down with the mobo i already ordered and am waiting on

cyan ravine
#

If not faster if you trade up the GPU with the leftover budget

cyan ravine
#

Just straight up

jagged ember
#

It's nearly a safety hazard

cyan ravine
#

Even if it has the wattage

jagged ember
#

Magic smoke

cyan ravine
#

We've seen people persist that way and have magic smoke yeah

jagged ember
#

Or just random shutdown due to transients

#

It happens, man

digital nebula
#

where are you seeing these tiers

jagged ember
#

If anything, swap the PSU and the mobo

potent portal
#

C tier probably won't smoke but will probably shut down or die completely

cyan ravine
#

It's also a 4070 Ti, which of all things will want a better psu with 12vhpwr involved

jagged ember
#

Yo I'm sure he sent the link to the PSU tier list

cyan ravine
#

I didn't

#

I'll get it

jagged ember
#

Oh

potent portal
cyan ravine
jagged ember
#

It do be in pins too

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If you ever want to reference it

potent portal
#

Pinned here too, fun

cyan ravine
#

Cultists source from dozens of professional tear downs and reviews to create a known quality list of psu's with different levels of safety

jagged ember
#

They're awesome

cyan ravine
#

It's cited enough to be a qualified real source

jagged ember
#

Doing the work no one else does, quite literally

cyan ravine
#

More than what pcgamer or whatever would tell you

jagged ember
cyan ravine
#

They work on metrics of safety features, not what bronze silver or gold rating it has on the box

potent portal
#

Several of us here have spoken directly with the main author of the list too, he knows his stuff

jagged ember
cyan ravine
jagged ember
#

The metal ratings are kinda stupid ngl

cyan ravine
#

The guys at cultists look at and dissect psu's very regularly

jagged ember
#

Like ooh it's gold rated but is literally a bomb

cyan ravine
#

Every other day?

cyan ravine
jagged ember
#

When you install it you hear the cs:go "bomb has been planted"

jagged ember
#

If nothing else change those

digital nebula
#

ill need to send a picture of my psu cause i may have accidentally chose the wrong one

cyan ravine
#

Go for it

#

You have picture perms now

digital nebula
#

thats what i got. idk where it is in the tier list but i dont think thats the c tier unless im just completely stupid

obsidian wigeon
#

looks like it's the b tier

cyan ravine
#

B tier is usable

#

I'll forgive b tier +100W

#

At the bare minimum absolutely do not use the dark hero

digital nebula
#

yeah i was like what did i do wrong lmao i looked and was like hold up thats not the right one

cyan ravine
#

Return it

#

The mobo

#

No matter what

#

That's 260$ wasted if you don't

#

That's a lot of money sweatderp

digital nebula
#

ill see what i can do to get a refund on the shipment. i didnt mind that the board was overkill cause i like fps especially since im a cod player but if there is something better out there ill take that instead

#

especially since i ordered the dark hero on the 28th of december and the thing still hasnt arrived

cyan ravine
#

Interesting that it hasn't arrived

#

Call it a blessing in disguise

#

Ask for a refund yeah

#

Even if it turns up, straight up return it

#

It's a waste even keeping it, even if they don't give you back half the money (they never would do this) you'd still be better off lol

potent portal
#

It's not that the board is overkill, it's the exact same for you as a much cheaper board. Just extra overclocker features.

digital nebula
#

ill have to look at the list but i have a gigabyte b550 or 560 ac-y1 or whatever motherboard in my rig rn so would the b550 you suggested be better?

cyan ravine
#

5800X3D was designed to be dropped into almost whatever board and just work always the same way

digital nebula
#

especially since ik the bios sucks on my mobo rn

cyan ravine
#

The gigabyte b550 in your current rig

#

Give the name

#

That sounds even better than buying a new one at all

potent portal
#

Inb4 ds3h

digital nebula
#

its the gigabyte b550 or 560 ds3h ac-y1

potent portal
cyan ravine
#

550 or 560 lmao

digital nebula
#

i cant remember if its a b550 or a 560 is there a way to check?

cyan ravine
#

One's amd and one's intel

digital nebula
#

ok its the intel one cause my cpu is an intel

potent portal
#

Intel has pins on the socket

cyan ravine
#

Ok

digital nebula
#

unless im taking that the wrong way

cyan ravine
#

No u right

#

B560

cyan ravine
potent portal
#

11th gen Intel, yeah probably worth upgrading

digital nebula
#

ok, idk how to refund the board so if i need to ill return it if it shows up. ill see what i can do. i kinda hate that im gonna have to wait longer. but ill probly order the new case and the aio tonight

cyan ravine
#

Which place you buy it?

digital nebula
#

amazon

cyan ravine
#

Just go to your orders

#

Then request cancellation of it right now

#

If they say they can't, you can request to return it either via My orders or by contacting CS directly

#

If it doesn't turn up CS will help you get a refund for a no arrival

#

I've done it plenty of times

digital nebula
#

yeah it wont let me refund until after the 13th

#

so if its a no show i can refun which was the plan in the first place if the board never showed up

cyan ravine
#

Go for it

digital nebula
#

yeah i have no updates on the board, it says the carrier is still waiting for the item. even though i got a message saying the shipping info was lost or something

#

but yeah ill just do what i can for now. plan is to get a refund if its a no show. other than that ill just have to deal with what i can

#

ill order the new case and aio

cyan ravine
#

I'm telling you mate don't cope with the mobo lol, absolutely refund it by any means necessary

#

They aren't going to deny you a refund

#

Especially if you try cancel it/contact them now and tell them you no longer want it

earnest olive
#

what mobo did he buy

cyan ravine
#

Dark hero

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400

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For X3D

earnest olive
#

ahh

#

mobo more expensive than cpu

cyan ravine
#

Mhm

#

Good intentions wrong cpu

#

It's understandable

earnest olive
#

honestly I'm not even sure who the dark hero is designed for

#

surely if you want to xoc you'd rather just get a 1dpc board

#

overkill vrms like that don't really matter on ryzen

#

it's just a weird board with no discernable use case

digital nebula
#

i mean i like overkill and wouldnt mind the overkill aspect but idk im only 19 i just go by what my parents tell me most of the time. they tell me to wait a bit ill just wait. ill tell them tomorrow that i want to refund if it doesnt ship

earnest olive
#

we don't mean overkill as in it'll be super amazing but more amazing than you need

leaden mauve
#

there's rarely a good reason for a regular consumer to spend more on a mobo than the CPU

earnest olive
#

we mean overkill as in the benefit over a much cheaper board will be 0.0000%

leaden mauve
#

unless the CPUs happen to be really cheap

#

x79 moment

digital nebula
#

well i got almost everything on sale. even the mobo was on sale i think

earnest olive
#

lol my z690 was still cheaper than my temporary i3

#

on sale doesn't mean good deal

cyan ravine
#

Even a dark hero on sale won't come close in price to that msi pro

leaden mauve
#

@digital nebula do you have a job?

digital nebula
#

yes

analog pulsar
digital nebula
#

im one for saving the money. first time trying to build a pc from scratch and if i can save a pretty penny im all for it. i asked around plenty of times and made sure that it was what i was actually looking for before ever even thinking about buying. thats why im here asking about an aio every other minute or what case i should get, because ik people are out there with more knowledge

analog pulsar
#

I bought my mobo on sale

digital nebula
#

so idk how long itll take for the money to go back into my account after refund. but with the 269 ill be spending for the case and aio, ill have 140 or so to spend on the mobo

cyan ravine
#

Sounds perfect

#

Then you'll get the refund in and be back 400 almost under budget

digital nebula
#

ill buy all that tomorrow then cause if i can get the refund itll be fine

cyan ravine
#

That's an excellent improvement

digital nebula
#

buy the case and what not tomorrow after refund and then order the mobo right after

earnest olive
#

I love it when people listen

#

it's a beautiful thing isn't it

cyan ravine
#

It truly is

#

And 400 is a lot for your age

#

That'll be weeks of work saved

#

You can stick that into a better monitor or keyboard or mouse

digital nebula
#

no i was refusing to do it because i like the mobo i bought and dont mind spending that much money but you guys gave a good reason so why wouldnt i listen

earnest olive
#

that's called listening

cyan ravine
#

Yes exactly

earnest olive
#

eventually anyways

cyan ravine
#

We know you love it and we are showing you the light kekw

digital nebula
#

either way still kinda sucks but since the mobo hasnt even arrived i dont see any harm in the refund

cyan ravine
#

Amazon has always refunded me for a no show

#

No stress, you'll get your money back for sure

digital nebula
#

especially since i think the person i bought it from was a scam, i looked at the reviews after a while and they had reviews saying that they ordered it and the package never arrived but amazon came through with the cut and said thats not why it never showed up or whatever

analog pulsar
cyan ravine
digital nebula
#

ive been annoyed by having to wait so long but sheesh good thing i did

#

article?

cyan ravine
#

Or webpage

analog pulsar
#

@earnest olive whats your mobo again and is it DDR5

cyan ravine
#

Sorry, article is an old school word lol

earnest olive
#

msi pro z690-a ddr4

digital nebula
analog pulsar
#

this one i seee

digital nebula
#

thats what im talking about

#

when you click on the digeco store front the thing doesnt even exist so it definitely was some kind of scam or something

#

besides that msi pro or whatever is actually sold by amazon and will be shipped by amazon

cyan ravine
digital nebula
#

ew the mobo doesnt come till the 27th or 26th

cyan ravine
#

That dark hero isn't coming

#

Just contact amazon now and get the refund

analog pulsar
jagged ember
cyan ravine
jagged ember
#

Jeff Amazon besos is rich

cyan ravine
#

Yes otherwise you're forking out for something uber expensive with no benefit again lol

jagged ember
#

That's on motherboard manufacturers making bios flash a niche

#

Absolutely stupid

digital nebula
#

man thats gonna annoy the crap out of me. unless i get another time where things get shipped and arrive early

jagged ember
#

Its so cheap and isn't difficult to implement lol

cyan ravine
#

Thankfully asrock seems to be changing that with new intel

#

Almost every single z board for z690 has flash

#

Which is

#

Just beautiful

#

I can look past everything else just on that alone

digital nebula
#

yeah i cant refund until 3 days max after the estimated delivery. so as soon as that happens ill refund

#

cause im sure it wont show

jagged ember
#

Sucks that's the case

earnest olive
#

bios flash should be a standard feature on every board

#

even boards that are end of socket life

digital nebula
#

ill just have to pray that the board comes quicker than the 27th

potent portal
cyan ravine
#

Intel limits is better than no cpu detected

digital nebula
#

ok so refun when i can get the pc case and what not as soon as possible and bam pc is done. after the longest waiting period ever

jagged ember
#

Latest build pic build hurts my neck ngl

#

The ultrawide and monitor like 50 feet on top of it

potent portal
#

That reminds me, I need a new secondary monitor...

#

Goodwill hunting time

analog pulsar
#

ultra best monitor'

digital nebula
#

The annoying part is I'm having to move my psu gpu cpu and thermal paste from my bed to my chair everyday so I'm sure you could tell I'm ready to get rid of thag issue

jagged ember
#

Is there space to put em all in a box

#

Or somewhere else where it won't get in the way

#

Is not like you're gonna be using it until you have to build it

digital nebula
#

Nope. My closet can't hold that stuff and I don't have a box to put it in

#

And I'm definitely not putting it on the floor

jagged ember
#

If it's all in their boxes

#

Literally nothing will happen unless you huck them

#

Plus, killing components with static electricity is actually really difficult

potent portal
#

I stepped on a CPU box once. It was fine.

jagged ember
#

Electroboom and Linus tried their best

potent portal
#

I wasn't fine.

jagged ember
digital nebula
#

Yeah no ill deal with it the way I've been dealing with it. Just gotta hope everything gets here and that I don't have to wait till the end of the month to make a pc

jagged ember
#

Fair is fair

#

You know what else is fair? My segues to our sponsor

#

Dbrand, who footed the bill for CES

potent portal
#

You know the rules
Dbrand requires a sacrifice of one tech tip now

analog pulsar
potent portal
#

Ok, tech tip, don't do that lol

analog pulsar
#

i was unloading trailer at work

potent portal
#

Well if you're going to count that I've thrown hundreds while sorting packages

desert gulch
#

What's the heaviest thing you can get shipped before they start using furniture dollies and stuff to move it

#

Like what's the borderline between picking it and and wheeling it

potent portal
#

When I worked at Amazon it was officially 40 lbs but they gave me 80 lb boxes once

desert gulch
#

Damn

potent portal
#

Literally 3 giant boxes of rocks

desert gulch
#

Do you enjoy the dog food/animal feed ones?

#

Because they're hella awkward and heavy lol

potent portal
#

If you're not prepared for those and the weight shifts it's hitting the ground

#

And likely spilling

desert gulch
#

That would explain it...

#

Like I have subscribe and save and whoever works at amazon will for some reason put dog food and liquid soap in the same box šŸ’€

#

So when it shows up it's like a bomb exploded

potent portal
#

Don't be too hard on the boxers, they have a quota of 30 packages a minute

desert gulch
#

Oh yeah for sure

analog pulsar
#

i saw some APC come through warehouse as big as me

#

or bigger

potent portal
#

APC? Armored personnel carrier?

desert gulch
#

It was just a prank bro
The prank:

analog pulsar
#

UPS stufdf

jagged ember
#

You had it right the first time lol

strong raft
#

I like when I order 2 "separate" wiper blades & they arrive that way exactly 1 day after each other. Idc tbh, saving boxes. What's nice though is picking the $10 higher usps on the 3080 to be quicker, but we'll see.. 584228529227431945

analog pulsar
#

I'll log into mainframe find your package and yeet it

#

Nevermind that's to much work

strong raft
#

Lose guaranteed $50ish on resell so figure I won't rush into that even if I prefer other models. Raining so much = inside & gaming.

analog pulsar
#

You don't game while it's sunny outside

strong raft
#

This time of year is just less work from the weather means extra gaming.

analog pulsar
#

You must game everyday let the game consume you

bold prism
#

Is anyone still awake to help me setup my new pc

#

Could some list all the drivers and stuff I need to download for a new pc. Like chipset and audio idk what else there is

obsidian wigeon
#

Look up your motherboard and grab drivers from there

bold prism
#

All of them necessary?

obsidian wigeon
#

Nah, only audio, chipset, and networking is important

humble fossil
#

hi

#

how to know is the motherboard support windows 11 ??

mossy venture
humble fossil
#

i will help someone to want to build a pc

potent portal
#

It needs to support tpm 1.2 at least, which means 8th gen Intel or second gen Ryzen minimum

#

"officially"ā„¢ļø

fossil cedar
#

Yeah when installing you can add a regkey to just override the tpm requirement

leaden raft
#

Anything I can do about a potentially bricked motherboard I don’t have a receipt for

humble fossil
#

good and cheap around 100$-200$

#

intel LGA 1700

leaden raft
#

Just tried to put together my new build last night no luck

potent portal
#

That board has flashback, might try using that to flash the latest bios

strong raft
#

5600 or 5700x or 5800x3d by chance? If so, possible factory bios just wasn't new enough. If not, then idk.

upper condor
#

While looking through my PSU cables I noticed something odd

#

I have two cpu cables, each 4 pin

#

But my board has 4 pin and a 2 pin

#

For the cpu slot

#

Do I need to buy more cables?

desert gulch
#

what board?

upper condor
#

Just for extra OC :P

dusky hearth
#

Yes and no

#

Though

#

2 pin is strange

#

There isn't an eps 2 pin afaik

upper condor
#

I looked at the manual and it said I’d be fine idek

teal reef
#

I made a copy of windows 10 onto a boot drive and when i boot up my build it restarts and then the motherboard lights up with a cpu problem

#

Idk what to do to fix it

potent portal
potent portal
#

?cmos

jolly riverBOT
teal reef
potent portal
#

You made a copy of Windows and you're trying to load it on a different computer? Is that right?

teal reef
#

Ryzen 7 5800x and msi b550 a pro

potent portal
#

CPU light usually means something hardware isn't cooperating or the firmware isn't up to date enough for the CPU

teal reef
#

Do i need a newer bios or should i just start trying out other parts or something

#

It starts to boot but i then get a kernal error

feral citrus
#

im trying to move my windows to another drive while keeping the original drive, what would be the easiest way to do that? i also want to completely wipe the pc so data doesnt matter

teal reef
potent portal
#

The reason you don't want the old drive in when you install again is the windows installer might try to use your existing boot partition

feral citrus
#

šŸ‘what would be the easiest way to completely wipe the pc?

potent portal
#

Diskpart clean

feral citrus
#

command prompt?

potent portal
#

Unless you need the data shredded

#

Yep cmd

feral citrus
#

nah just wiping for new pc basically

potent portal
#

Specifically you'd do
diskpart List disk Select disk X Clean

#

X being the logical number of the drive on the list

#

Then you can close cmd and open disk management. Partition scheme gpt. Right click unallocated space, new simple volume.

feral citrus
#

so i make the thumb drive, unplug drive 1 that has windows, install on drive 2, plug drive 1 back in, and then wipe drive 2?

potent portal
#

You'd be wiping drive 1 but yeah

#

It might be a different number on the list

feral citrus
#

ah by bad after pluggin 1 back in also wipe 1 once back in

potent portal
#

Yes

feral citrus
#

after plugging the original drive back in will there be any errors that might happen since 2 copies of windows will be detected or will i be all good/

potent portal
#

If it doesn't do it automatically you can boot to the new drive through bios

feral citrus
#

gotcha

upper condor
#

Can someone help me I’m building and cables are confusing af 😭😭😭

#

I can’t find the front panel connector on my mobo

#

It’s the aorus b650 pro ax

#

I have the manual I just don’t know what these things mean

#

The one that says front panel, my front panel connector isn’t big enough for

#

Case is the Lancool 215 and I just can’t figure it out

empty pollen
#

10 is the ffrontal panel

#

F_Panel

#

look for the page in the manual for the 10

upper condor
#

Yeah but there’s nowhere else on the manual for the front panel that I can see

feral citrus
#

looks like you just have the usb cable which goes into its own spot, the front panel youre trying to plug into has its pins split into different sections for different things like led and power cable

upper condor
#

I found the thing that goes there basically

#

Why is f_panel not front panel 😢

empty pollen
#

there pal

empty pollen
#

that one should go to 16

#

F_u32

upper condor
#

Ok sweet

#

New problem though it isnt there 😭😭😭

empty pollen
#

your frontal panel should be a plethora of 2 pin connectors

upper condor
#

I see the text that says it

feral citrus
#

it is to the side

upper condor
#

Is it not 4 pins?

#

Weird

empty pollen
#

ok easy

#

which cable first?

upper condor
#

Front panel?

empty pollen
#

photo

upper condor
#

Of the cable?

empty pollen
#

sorry the 3.2 is 16

#

wait

#

you sure you have the right manual?

upper condor
#

I think? I looked it up and it was right

#

Gimme a sec I’ll make sure

feral citrus
#

this should be where you plug this in

empty pollen
feral citrus
empty pollen
#

you are looking at the wrong manual pal

upper condor
#

I FOLLOWED THE QR CODE ON THE PAPER IT GAVE ME

#

Wow smh

feral citrus
#

im not your pal buddy

empty pollen
#

not you

#

agiraffe

languid nimbus
#

Are there multiple QR codes?

feral citrus
#

understandable

empty pollen
#

@upper condor check your mobo along the layout i just gave you

empty pollen
upper condor
#

LMAO ok I got it

#

It sent me to the b560 page

#

God I should’ve read 😭😭

empty pollen
#

at least you asked here for help

#

šŸ™‚

#

here

#

thats your mobo

upper condor
#

Every time I’ve asked here you’ve been an amazing help

#

Thank you so much šŸ˜­šŸ˜­šŸ™šŸ™šŸ™

buoyant patrol
#

I’m looking for a laptop 1k-1.5k any suggestions?

upper condor
#

@empty pollen my goat šŸ˜­šŸ™

#

I have a red vga light

#

But my gpu has lights and the fans are on

#

Nvm I just didn’t have my monitor plugged in

#

My case fans aren’t working though

south cliff
#

are they plugged in correctly

upper condor
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I’m ngl I don’t know

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The case has a splitter thingy

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In the back

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That has all the fans plugged into it

south cliff
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check

upper condor
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Is the case fans plugs the like 1 pin thing?

south cliff
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show me

upper condor
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These things?

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They come from the hub in the back

cyan ravine
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If you see it, amazing buy, otherwise Tuf Gaming A15 2022

south cliff
celest cove
upper condor
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Which way do I plug it in?

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With the words facing up or down

south cliff
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top ones fa e up bottom ones face down

upper condor
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Did that and still nothing

south cliff
south cliff
south cliff
upper condor
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Yeah they are

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I’ve triple checked all connections

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This is my front panel

south cliff
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do they show up in bios

upper condor
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I’ll check that real quick

south cliff
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they might just ot ramp up until a certian temp

celest cove
south cliff
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yeah its should be enough because it has a massive heatsink

celest cove
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Is the liquid cpu cooling done by itself?

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Or do I have to refill it every so often?

south cliff
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aio?

celest cove
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Idk, I read that aio don't require maintenance but I don't know if the one in that build is

south cliff
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they dont

celest cove
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So I wouldn't need to do any sort of maintenance for it

south cliff
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no it can last along time

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like a long long time

upper condor
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Now I’m getting red cpu light 😰

south cliff
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gulp

upper condor
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It did this when I started but then switched off

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Could it be it’s just like booting?

south cliff
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yeah

upper condor
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Using the power button doesn’t turn it off and when I turn it off by my psu it insta turns on when I turn my psu on

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Wtf man 😭😭😭

mossy venture
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Are you sure you plugged the power button cable into the right place?

upper condor
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I mean it was working before? I also tried using the power button on my mobo

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Which didn’t work

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Nothing working 😭😭😭

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Should I uninstall my cpu and check pins?

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No bent pins

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Reinstalling ram now

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Now it doesn’t even turn on

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Sweet!

feral citrus
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@fossil cedar you son of a

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@fossil cedar you think you can trick me like this AND get away with it!?

obsidian wigeon
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What did he even do? pepehmmm

feral citrus
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He tells me that I can reuse my ram with a new mobo HE suggested

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Well I get to taking apart my old pc and building my new one and wouldn't you guess what doesn't fit??

weary galleon
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^

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šŸ‘€

feral citrus
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😠

weary galleon
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yeah ddr4 aint gonna fit in a ddr5 mobo

feral citrus
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i now realize this

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but i want pato to know he lied to me

obsidian wigeon
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He didn't lie if he didn't know it wasn't a ddr4 board lol

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It seems like no one noticed that it wasn't ddr5 board

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Whoops

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Welp if possible return the mobo

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And make sure to get a ddr4 board

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Get this if you can return the board you currently have

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I made sure this is ddr4, even says on the name

feral citrus
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eh ill just order some ddr5 ram ig

obsidian wigeon
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imo i would return to save money, but up to you really

feral citrus
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im fine with spending a few evtra bucks

obsidian wigeon
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that few extra would be near $100 tho

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or more if it's 32 gigs

feral citrus
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yea its all good, ive got a full time job and i want a goodererer pc

obsidian wigeon
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sorry that happened to you, but we're still humans after all

feral citrus
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all good šŸ‘ not mad about it actually glad that i get a reason to upgrade to ddr5 so it works out

feral citrus
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so speaking of ram any suggestions for ddr5 ram?

leaden mauve
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@earnest olive

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why have there been so many discord invite bots lately

earnest olive
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banned ty

languid nimbus
leaden mauve
earnest olive
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man im just trying to enjoy my game go away bots

languid nimbus
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lmao sry

leaden mauve
strong raft
untold vessel
fossil cedar
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I picked a ddr5 motherboard by accident

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Lol

cyan ravine
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Oh no

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Pattie boi kekw

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Did you pick the ddr5 pro-a

cyan ravine
fossil cedar
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I picked z790 ud ac without realising i picked the d5 version

fossil cedar
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Cus someone buying the wrong product clearly benefits me

cyan ravine
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Ripperoni

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Sadge communication accidenterino

fossil cedar
cyan ravine
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Time to untechie urself

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You've betrayed the corporation