#building-and-recc-chat

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south cliff
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Your good

potent portal
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The issue was that the partition map got corrupted and the file system for the windows drive isn't detected, and since it's just a gaming machine it's easiest to fix just by doing a clean install

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If the installer is ready then you'll plug the drive in, go to bios, find the boot order, and put the USB drive on top. Then it'll boot to the installer.

south cliff
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Sorry I just saw this I think I did it right

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I deleted the 100mb thing in the windows installer

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If that was what I was supposed to do

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Well it worked it seems

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W

tawny fiber
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5800x3d is such a boon for previous am4 owners its freaking crazy

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vital pelican
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anyone able

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to walk me through installing windows?

analog hearth
fossil cedar
# vital pelican to walk me through installing windows?

I'm pretty sure they cover that in this vid
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vital pelican
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i watched that entire video already

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and it didint go over the specifics too welll

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but i figured out my problem

stoic island
vital pelican
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i didint know i had to run the program on my usb

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i thought i could just get the installation media and go

fossil cedar
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Nope you gotta run, it'll take like 30 ish mins to install

weary portal
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Yo I need help if anyone could hop on a call with me right quick I got issues with my fans

fossil cedar
fossil cedar
analog pulsar
stoic island
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If you're stuck with am4

weary portal
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@fossil cedar I have two front fans, an aio with two fans on that and they work but I can’t control the lights with the icue software. There is two hubs that came with my case (everything Corsair btw) and I think one is for the power button reset and usb, the other is for the fans. The aio came with a bigger hub and I want to use that since it will fit everything. The problem is on my mother board I only see one usb. Which is being used by the usb to power the power, reset and usbs on the front.

fossil cedar
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Ah ehh you only have 1 usb front panel header?

analog pulsar
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@fossil cedar my case comes tomorrow I hope it fits

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Lol should I buy it

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mossy venture
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Do you have any use at all for that much storage

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Because a 4tb hdd is $60 and a 4tb ssd is as low as $270 for the mx500 st times

analog pulsar
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I was gunna store games on it rn I have 2TB ssd and 4TB hard drive I'm gunna download sole games and see what happens I just got the gamepass today and I'm downloading some games to try

cyan ravine
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Man

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That's a lot of your xtxh budget right there

analog pulsar
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I won't buy I was thinking tho

wild peak
stoic island
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You'll save 20$ going 5600 instead of 5600x

fossil cedar
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I'd swap psu too 1 sec

stoic island
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PSU wise I'd prob grab Core Reactor 850w

analog pulsar
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@cyan ravine I "should" have enough space if I don't I can get like 2tb or 4TB hard drive

stoic island
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SSD wise, P41 plus is nicer for 60$

cyan ravine
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Change from 5600X to 5600

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Literally the same cpu just a different name

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And yeah psu and ssd I agree with

fossil cedar
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Also swap board because basically the same

cyan ravine
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Don't have to get a cooler tho if you don't *want to, stock cooler in the box is fine

analog pulsar
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@cyan ravine I hate my pc

cyan ravine
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LOL

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You've had it for a day

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What happened

analog pulsar
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It won't let me run freaking 3600 CL16 G1

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cyan ravine
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Stop overclocking

analog pulsar
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I have K processor

cyan ravine
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Accept reality

analog pulsar
cyan ravine
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Kenzie remember when we talked about power math last night?

analog pulsar
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I run XMP

cyan ravine
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And you were like "mo please my brain"

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Yes just run xmp

analog pulsar
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But I need to run G1

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I think I broke something

cyan ravine
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I trust the board to know what gear you need kek

analog pulsar
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Now even 3500 is running not are my cpu is poop

cyan ravine
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Cpu is not poop

analog pulsar
desert gulch
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Smh if you wanted good ddr4 CPU imc shoulda gotten 11th gen

cyan ravine
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Yes but I don't trust you'll have no issues with gear 1

desert gulch
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(please don't actually)

cyan ravine
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If the board says gear 2 for you I trust it lol

analog pulsar
cyan ravine
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Different chip

analog pulsar
cyan ravine
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13th imc isn't necessarily better

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Yes but if I started yapping off values and hours of stress testing would you do it?

desert gulch
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💀 that ain't even a question

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Ofc he would

tawny fiber
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Kinda seems like a futile chase

analog pulsar
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Going from 3500 G1 from 3600 G2 I got FPS increase all I want is my ram to run at 3600 CL16 G1 that's all

mossy venture
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A good few people have been having issues with 13th gen d4 imc

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Someone in #overclocking had a 13700k that had a worse imc than their 12600k

desert gulch
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Ram oc weirdos be like:

tawny fiber
analog pulsar
cyan ravine
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Man doesn't deserve a 4090 after that statement

mossy venture
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Kenzie you have a z690 right?

analog pulsar
mossy venture
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I wonder if the ram controller with 13th gen on z690s is worse

desert gulch
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Id guess ddr4 imc is just getting worse

cyan ravine
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The ddr5 imc is seemingly better

mossy venture
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Or if it's just that the 13th gen imc for d4 is worse so the d5 one can be better with some weird intel screwery

desert gulch
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I mean, no reason for them to improve it

cyan ravine
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Maybe

mossy venture
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Also possible for them to just purposefully make it worse

desert gulch
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Also true

mossy venture
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In order to make people go d5

cyan ravine
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The intel slides did at one point say the imc would be upgraded iirc

mossy venture
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I hope my 13600k can handle 3600c16

cyan ravine
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But yeah the proof is in the pudding

mossy venture
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I highly doubt it'll do 4000c16 anymore

cyan ravine
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I mean it's just a number

mossy venture
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Was hoping my Rev e could manage it but I doubt the imc will handle it in g1

desert gulch
cyan ravine
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Cache makes it faster with the clocks

mossy venture
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Kenzie what ram do you have again?

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Possible it's also the die of the ram limiting you

analog pulsar
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MOTHER AHSVABVD MY CASE HAS BEEN RESCHEDULED FOR TUESDAY AFTER GETTING EMAIL FOR MONDAY

mossy venture
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?

cyan ravine
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Try asking the question again

analog pulsar
desert gulch
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Is esacnor still here?

mossy venture
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Gskill high what

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No ryan

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Quite the story

cyan ravine
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Hynix I think is the attempt there

mossy venture
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One I can't tell here

analog pulsar
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Yes

desert gulch
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Damn I wanna here the story

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Oh

mossy venture
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I hope my Rev e will manage better

cyan ravine
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Rev e is good

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At the very least you'll get there albeit maybe with more voltage lol

analog pulsar
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@cyan ravine I'm more concerned

wild peak
analog pulsar
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Okay let me make video really quick bc typing out to many words

cyan ravine
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Just turn on xmp and leave it

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Lol

mossy venture
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I 100% refuse to just use xmp with this ram anymore

fossil cedar
mossy venture
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I'm atleast getting to 3600c16

cyan ravine
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No kenzie

wild peak
fossil cedar
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Np

fossil cedar
cyan ravine
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Kenzie is making a video about trying to make the ram train at gear 1

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I believe

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And I already know what that looks like lol

analog pulsar
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@cyan ravine it working now

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I explained in video it's weird

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My mobo shows red lights so I shut pc off but then when I turn it back on it can run what I put in bios? My xmp did the same thing

mossy venture
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It takes a few minutes after changing ram values before it will actually boot

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You can't just instantly turn it off

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You have to wait

analog pulsar
cyan ravine
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Ok so what you did was eventually trained it after a bunch of retries

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It's unstable, like, 98% sure

analog pulsar
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But 3600 G1 gave boot failure right away

cyan ravine
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Oh you did 3500?

analog pulsar
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Yea

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That's stable as I remember

cyan ravine
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Well that probably works but you want to ram test

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TM5 with anta777 preset for at least an hour and a half would give confidence if error free

analog pulsar
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What is TM5

cyan ravine
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Lol

analog pulsar
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Sips said prime 95 and OCCT

cyan ravine
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Those work too

analog pulsar
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I'll do TM5 seems better

cyan ravine
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Prime 95 turn off avx1/avx2

analog pulsar
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Where is safe download to get TM5

cyan ravine
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TM5 takes more setup

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Just use sips tools

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You must've tried them before

analog pulsar
cyan ravine
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Ye

analog pulsar
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running for 1 hour please wait

cyan ravine
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P95 I'd do longer tbh

analog pulsar
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It's fine

cyan ravine
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And no not waiting I have a plane to catch today

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Lol

azure briar
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any tips for a particularly stuck cmos battery lmao

analog pulsar
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Yank it hard

cyan ravine
azure briar
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my fingies

cyan ravine
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If anything, put it back, then just short the cmos header instead

mossy venture
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On my mobo I had to use a flat object to wedge it out. Don't be stupid like me and don't use a knife

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There should be a lil tab to pop it out though

analog pulsar
azure briar
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yeah idk if i have a tab on this one

mossy venture
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There almost always is

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What's the mobo?

cyan ravine
azure briar
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it's oem mobo for an acer aspire lmao

mossy venture
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Ah

analog pulsar
cyan ravine
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Idk if I believe that

mossy venture
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Could try a flat head screw driver but I'd do that as a last resort. I'd check if you can short the header like Felix said

cyan ravine
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Lol

mossy venture
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Kenzie

analog pulsar
mossy venture
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Are you doing ram tuning on your main windows install?

azure briar
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i took the whole computer apart at one point but i have all the pieces again now, would just be nice to have it working again even though it's not worth using

cyan ravine
mossy venture
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I mean if you don't really care much about it you could risk the screwdriver thing. Just make sure psu is off and you do a power drain imo

analog pulsar
azure briar
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it has been unplugged for months idk if it matters?

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how long do the caps take to discharge

analog pulsar
mossy venture
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When you boot to windows after bios

analog pulsar
mossy venture
cyan ravine
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Under the battery

mossy venture
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Definitely run rawrs batch file after you finish tuning

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100%

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You can easily corrupt windows while ram tuning and not know until it won't boot

analog pulsar
cyan ravine
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Yes

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Your cmos reset

analog pulsar
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Lol

cyan ravine
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Lololol

analog pulsar
mossy venture
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If you're patient enough I'd run it after each unsuccessful oc personally

azure briar
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fun fact this acer aspire will bluescreen constantly if i put my gtx 960 in it

mossy venture
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Odd

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Could be bad vbios?

analog pulsar
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Okay

cyan ravine
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Oof constantly

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Tried the 960 in another system?

analog pulsar
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@cyan ravine rawr has this too

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cyan ravine
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Winrawr

languid nimbus
viral ore
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even if i bought winrar i would still use 7zip

hallow glen
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7zip gud

analog pulsar
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@cyan ravine might have to build pc for my little brother lol

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He's starting to play games om steam lol

cyan ravine
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@analog pulsar 1 hour is nothing

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Need to do more

analog pulsar
cyan ravine
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Occt tests as well

analog pulsar
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I did both at same time

cyan ravine
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That's not how it works

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One after the other

analog pulsar
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Bruh

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Sips said to run both

cyan ravine
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If you do both at the same time it's half and half, not 2 full tests

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That's half baked

analog pulsar
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Hmm

cyan ravine
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I'm far less careful about this than sips and I'm telling you to do more tests

analog pulsar
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Can I just game

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And if crash change it

cyan ravine
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If you have bsods or driver issues again you know what I will point to Akashrug

analog pulsar
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Okay

wispy crest
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hey guys i have 16gb of ram and i wanna upgrade. the thing is i have trident z royal (silver) and i wanna add more ram but they did not go on sale sadly
u think its cursed if i get a different brand of ram

mossy venture
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If the die is the same, it's fine

wispy crest
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how can you tell if the dye is the same

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ive never done this before

cyan plaza
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Ya trident royal looks pretty but lack of sales and semi over priced

wispy crest
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so i just slide a different brand it should be good or nah?

cyan plaza
wispy crest
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a mix between trident z and the others

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i think they meant dye but idk

cyan plaza
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O lol thought it meant something else but yes

wispy crest
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they want me to die

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report them

mossy venture
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The die is the manufacturer of the chip of the ram

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Hynix, Samsung or micron

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I think those are the only three, I'm probably forgetting one

cyan ravine
wispy crest
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360 code also?

cyan plaza
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pepehmmm
< learning from the higher ups

cyan ravine
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Those tell you the specific kit and specific die (die=the chips on the stick)

wispy crest
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so if i buy these for example

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will they work

mossy venture
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There's no guarantee until you find what die your ram is

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And corsair uses different dies for the same ram, so there's no guarantee

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I'd suggest another g.skill kit

cyan ravine
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Corsair 3200 c16 is like, the true mystery meat of ddr4

wispy crest
cyan ravine
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I agree with bacca, read the codes off the back of the sticks and buy the same kit

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The code should read F4-3_00C__ etc etc

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Look up that specific code it'll lead you to the same kit and hopefully the same dies underneath

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Even better if you try the same seller

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Or sell the 2 you have rn and go buy 2 16gb sticks

wispy crest
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so the best option is to buy the same ones i got before

wispy crest
cyan ravine
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Ye

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Those would be the wisest

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Latter the wisest of all

wispy crest
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what if

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i buy the ones i linked and try

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would it fry something up

cyan ravine
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It's more likely you'll get mismatched timings and ultimately something slower

mossy venture
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It could corrupt windows or just straight up not work

cyan ravine
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Can also do that too

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Either way it's not a great time

mossy venture
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I used mismatched dies without knowing, I didn't know what was causing my issue

wispy crest
mossy venture
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I had over 40 blue screens and then corrupted windows

wispy crest
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ooof

mossy venture
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I had to wipe my entire main drive and lost everything I had on it

wispy crest
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i have 16gb of ram but games these days are taking ram more than 90%

mossy venture
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Some can do that yeah

wispy crest
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and it causes stutters

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it comes at $92.50

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the corsair is around $68 Angory

cyan ravine
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32gb of silicon power is like $70

wispy crest
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same buyer same everything for the trident royal

untold vessel
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displayport to hdmi adapter

wispy crest
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i guess lesson learned if i wanna buy flashy stuff

cyan ravine
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Nah you can then sell the old ones

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And you make off even better

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Say $40 for the royals

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30$ net for 32gb

wispy crest
cyan ravine
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One sec

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67 amazon

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These too

wispy crest
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i appreciate you helping me

cyan ravine
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Np

wild peak
icy crater
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Anyone good with building sff pcs?

mossy venture
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Not with making one myself

icy crater
mossy venture
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Sure

icy crater
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A ssf pc with $900-$1100 budget.

mossy venture
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Budget, country, use case, any preferences for looks and such

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Mini itx?

icy crater
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US, genshin minecraft not too intensive.

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Uh not sure bout looks tbh I gotta ask him.

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Yeah mini itx.

mossy venture
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Give me a few

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Bout to be boarding a plane

icy crater
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Ohhh what??

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👀

icy crater
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And no fancy colors/lights.

mossy venture
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Oh

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Gonna change the heatsink

icy crater
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Thanks bacca could you make another one for me?

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Also you have wifi on your plane?

wispy crest
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sorry to disturb you guys again but i did some research @cyan ravine @mossy venture.
it turns out trident z royal and corsair vengeance pro use the same samsung b dies. same rated speed, voltage, and frequency

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the only difference is the latency

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for corsair:
16-18-18-36

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tirdent z
16-18-18-38

woven horizon
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I am not at my computer, Can someone look at the tier list for this PSU?

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cyan ravine
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Corsair uses to my knowledge almost anything, not just b die

wispy crest
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yeah but i looked up the vengeance pro specifically

cyan ravine
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If you end up with corsair b die it also sucks, really hard

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Yeah 3200 c16 vengeance pro b die specifically sucks

wispy crest
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why Angory

cyan ravine
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Because they want you to pay for the good stuff lol

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If you want cheap b die look online for used sticks

wispy crest
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alright weggDumb

stoic island
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tier e

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no protection

woven horizon
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Good enough for me. In the bin it goes.

obsidian wigeon
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very bad psu

dim forge
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what's the best gpu under 200$ I can buy from amazon

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I was hoping any 6600 to drop to 200 but none did

tawny fiber
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Probably 1080 or 1070tis

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Because 20 series still have that bit of an rt tax

obsidian wigeon
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can do 2060

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wait new and from amazon

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yeah nah, gotta wait for deals on 6600

cyan ravine
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6600 for 190 again when

dim forge
wild peak
obsidian wigeon
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don't see any problems so far

jagged nest
cyan ravine
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5 suggs

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Cooler, ram, ssd, psu, case

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GPU? If you haven't already bought it won't be 800

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If it still is give link

jagged nest
cyan ravine
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Neat, great buy

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Cooler change to arctic liquid freezer 2 argb b stock 360mm from ebay, it's like 60-ish dollars and better

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Ram silicon power 3200 c16 turbine rgb 32gb for 77$

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Ssd team mp33 2tb 119$

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Case fractal focus 2 rgb for $71

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Psu? I'm not up to scratch one sec

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/MPQcCJ/phanteks-amp-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ph-p850g
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/KnYmP6/corsair-rm1000e-1000-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-cp-9020250-na

Phanteks AMP 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Suppl...

Phanteks AMP 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (PH-P850G)

Corsair RM1000e 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power S...

Corsair RM1000e 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (CP-9020250-NA)

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One of these two

jagged nest
cyan ravine
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A few things I don't remember off the top of my head

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They're both RM and super overkill for their specs

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So both are fine

jagged nest
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ight bet

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thanks

cyan ravine
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Np one sec I'll grab the cooler link

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It's the official arctic account so 100% legit

jagged nest
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thanks

cyan ravine
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Oh wait oos one sec

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This one

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It's in stock sorry

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I'm about to board a plane? kek

jagged nest
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lol u g

frigid night
cyan ravine
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Dude can't wait

frigid night
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Time to build another PC. 🙂

upper tusk
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If a pc has no gpu cpu doesnt support integrated graphics. If i connect port on back of pc to monitor will it run

frigid night
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As far as everything else.. yeah it'll run.

empty pollen
mossy venture
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What neo said

upper tusk
empty pollen
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dont put high hopes on that

frigid night
empty pollen
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prices are already too low

mossy venture
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I think 6800xt is back in stock at $535

upper tusk
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My idiot brother who knows more about pc than i do say wait

empty pollen
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new 7900xtx will not compete with current market, so prices most probably will remain the same across amd board

frigid night
empty pollen
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indeed

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its your money anyway, you can wait if you want

frigid night
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Stay in here and ask questions and you'll be more knowledgeable than him in no time. 😄

empty pollen
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but dont put high hopes on that

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for now 6900xt at 700, 6950xt at 800 and 7900xt at 900 are very well priced, dont think amd will cut their own products even more

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at least not this year

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maaaaybe after ces in january... maaaybe

upper tusk
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Should i get stock 6900xt from amd or after market if i cant get 6800xt

empty pollen
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that kind of choices must be made on your own pal

upper tusk
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Thanks

empty pollen
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6800xt is a great card, the bump to 6900xt money wise is not that great over the 6800xt

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but as the bois said already, prices are already on the floor, have that in mind

potent portal
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Don't forget that time and enjoyment have value too. Sure it could possibly drop $50 in 3 months but do you think you'd have gotten at least $50 worth of fun out of it?

empty pollen
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thats also true

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in fact time is invaluable

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50 bucks in 3 months wont gonna cut it

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and the best time of the year to enjoy games is december... so many downtime xD

wild peak
empty pollen
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seems ok to me

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need a gpu tho

severe hull
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How much better is a 2060 over 1650 ?

dim forge
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a lot

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gddr5 vs gddr6

empty pollen
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yup, a lot

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like 60% +

dim forge
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1650 pretty bad card tbh

empty pollen
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not a bad card tho

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just a lot worse than 2060

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if you get a 1650 at 100usd then its a good card

severe hull
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My son's pc is using a 1650

empty pollen
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indeed

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1650 is a good card

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you just need to find it at a good price as well

severe hull
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What is gdr5 and 6

empty pollen
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the memory type on the card

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is a lot slower on the 1650

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for me there are only 3 bad cards: 6500xt, 6400xt and 1630gt 😛

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no price could save those cards

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true and true

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i apologize for that as well

severe hull
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So go for thr 2060 or any other recommendations

empty pollen
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depend on your budget

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how much are you willing to spend? also... are you comfortable with used market?

severe hull
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I am not to worried about budget since there is a limit on what the pc can handle

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I dont want to get a card that is too strong

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But I want to give him an upgrade

empty pollen
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you can upgrade from a 2060 up to a 4090

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thats why we need to know how m uch are u willing to spend

severe hull
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350

empty pollen
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6700xt go toe to toe vs the 3060ti

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a lot more powerful than the 2060

severe hull
#

If I change to amd is it plug and play

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Can hus cpu handle it

empty pollen
#

your cpu, yeah

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plug and play.... no, not even on nvidia

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you need to ddu for a clean driver install

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heck i even had a 3060ti on an intel 4770k some months ago

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thats even an older cpu than yours

severe hull
#

Thanks everyone

empty pollen
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glad to be of any help pal

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and kuddos to rommy for the links 👍

vague oracle
#

Does Ryzen 2000 support SAM or did that start with 3000?

empty pollen
#

sam is only 3000 and 5000 tech

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no sam on 2000

vague oracle
empty pollen
#

in fact it started on 5000 but later was made compatible with 3000 cpus

dim forge
empty pollen
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wasn't that clear the way you said it

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is in the past anyway

dim forge
#

okay... finally I decided to build this

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imma buy the 2060

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6600 didn't drop to 199

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so I can't buy it without paying 80$ tax

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wdym new list

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Ohh you mean why it isnt itx?

vague oracle
#

Would a $210 6600 be over your budget?

dim forge
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I live in south america so

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anything over 200$ pays taxes

vague oracle
#

Ahh

empty pollen
#

have you tried your local used market?

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which country btw?

dim forge
dim forge
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like I could get a 1080 for 200$ at best

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and 6600 round 230-240$ used

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It's horrible

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if anything I'll sell it next year and upgrade for smth better

image.png
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🥺

empty pollen
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yeah 😦

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sad to hear that pal

dim forge
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how fun

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5 min later

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it's up again to 306$

empty pollen
#

thats why when you see deals you shouldn't hesitate

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im guilty of that as well 😦

dim forge
shut rampart
#

any psu that is in stock, other than the Phanteks AMP Series 650W

fossil cedar
frigid night
fossil cedar
#

Shame

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Super flower legion gx 650w is like 50$ then

austere condor
#

brainstorming a build rn. expected to be building before the end of the year
$1640 max budget pre-tax
user is expected to use the PC without any major upgrades for the next 6-7 years (current PC is 6-7 years old rn)
does occasional streams, dusty environment, cooler either needs to be a compact air cooler or an AIO cause the system needs to be shipped, and a big heavy cooler like a ak620 is a risk.
mix of gaming loads, lots of MOBA / and diablo/POE, regular strategy games like warhammer, and regular mix of survival games.
^ hence why i focused more of the budget into a fast CPU and memory over maxing out the GPU.
running a 1080p 144hz monitor.
anything im missing?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WLWHDq

Part List - Intel Core i5-13600K, Radeon RX 6750 XT, Phanteks Eclip...

Part List - Intel Core i5-13600K, Radeon RX 6750 XT, Phanteks Eclipse G360A ATX Mid Tower

mossy venture
little osprey
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What AMD gen is 5600?

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Atleast long enough to install bios

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Updated bios*

mossy venture
#

Odds are it will

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And that mobo has a bios flash button anyways

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So either way it's an easy fix

little osprey
#

I just read a review that said that last part

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xD

reef moss
#

I need a part list for I racing budget is 1200, no monitor or keybored and mouse included. Also do not need wifi. Prefer Intel

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If someone would please

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@mossy venture you are just the person I look for 👀

mossy venture
#

Going to be a while

mossy venture
#

If you are, 3070 or 6800

reef moss
mossy venture
#

Can get 214xt if you'd like, but stock will do fine

icy crater
mossy venture
#

Oh the p200a build

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Iirc that case comes with 2 fans? Can add some, but not required.

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6800xt does get a bit hot, but it shouldn't throttle. Imo a repaste would be more worth it if Temps are too high

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Actually I would buy 1 extra fan atleast for an exhaust @icy crater

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P12 would do well

humble fossil
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hi

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is good put some games on portable ssd and play it ?

mossy venture
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Yes

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That's fine

humble fossil
#

how :)

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to move some not all

wild peak
cyan ravine
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Can use stock cooler

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Also nzxt c psu 750W is $80

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That'll save $40 more for the same performance just about

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And will still work with that 6800XT

humble fossil
mossy venture
#

Oh

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When installing something just switch the install location

cyan ravine
humble fossil
mossy venture
#

File explorer I believe, I've never done it myself though

humble fossil
#

I want Steam itself to transfer it so that I don't make a mistake

cyan ravine
#

You can I think

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In steam

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There's a transfer library section

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I can't remember where but I know it exists, I'm not at my computer

humble fossil
#

thx all :) i will try

mossy venture
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Prolly a YouTube tutorial

humble fossil
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i found it

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go to settings and downloads and steam library folders and add the ssd and move what you want

mossy venture
#

Worth considering for 13600k and 3070 ti

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Only issue is the ram

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8gb sticks of ddr5 are ass

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Oh it's 1x16

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Could throw in a second stick but that'd be over $150 over budget total

reef moss
#

yeesh

mossy venture
#

Yeah nvm, not as great of a deal as I thought

cyan ravine
#

1x16 ddr5 doesn't run as bad as 1 stick of ddr4

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It's dual rank x16, it's like 2x8 ddr4

mossy venture
#

Yeah

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Still less than ideal though

cyan ravine
#

Indeed

sleek vessel
#

can someone help me, my argb 3 pin header isn't going into my motherboard it's like stuck

severe hull
#

How do these numbers look

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Have to zoom in sorry

little osprey
#

What the

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133

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farenheit

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Isn’t that super bad?

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Not sure

midnight urchin
#

thats 56 C

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its not bad

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its normal

little osprey
#

oh okay

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my bad

midnight urchin
#

ur good

severe hull
#

Lol scared me

little osprey
#

Lol

midnight urchin
severe hull
#

1650

midnight urchin
#

bc i am thinking of buying a 3060ti

little osprey
#

let me guess

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oh.

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1650

midnight urchin
severe hull
#

Very budget pc I bought for my son

midnight urchin
#

i play fortnite, valorant and minecraft

little osprey
severe hull
#

Exactly what my son plays need to buy a bigger ssd he has no space for valorant

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Whats that

midnight urchin
#

thats the new intel gpu

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its not that good tbh

little osprey
#

gpu that compares with 3060ti

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it is good

severe hull
#

Ahh

little osprey
#

wdym

midnight urchin
#

i mean

little osprey
#

besides the drivers n stuff

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it’s

midnight urchin
#

i rather trust a brand that has experience for a long time

little osprey
#

..

midnight urchin
severe hull
#

I am looking into 6700xt

little osprey
#

well you’re not wrong

little osprey
severe hull
#

Jr was a recommendation given earlier

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It

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Going to be his Xmas gift 2tb ssd and 6700xt

midnight urchin
#

kev i was looking at 6800xt for my pc till i saw a 3060ti that was a rlly good deal

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i heard that in fortnite and in val amd gpu glitches sometimes

little osprey
#

Great gift

midnight urchin
severe hull
#

Should I go for 3060

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I like Nvidia better

midnight urchin
#

same

severe hull
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It's what he is use too

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As far as brands

midnight urchin
#

i was thinking you should go with 3060 or 3060ti

severe hull
#

Right now he used the geoforce stuff

midnight urchin
#

but ur cpu might not be able to handle 3060ti

severe hull
#

Will the rest of his pc handle it

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3060 will?

midnight urchin
#

yea

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3060 is rlly good

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does ur son play at 1080p?

little osprey
#

@severe hull

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^

severe hull
#

Yes 1080

midnight urchin
#

3060 would be perfect honestly

#

theres some great deals going on rn at newegg

severe hull
#

I can't find any

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A few of them say sold out

midnight urchin
#

thats good

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329

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right at msrp

severe hull
#

How do I know if it fits

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Looks wider ?

midnight urchin
#

the 3060 will fit

analog pulsar
#

@mossy venture kekw

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weary galleon
#

Don't get a 3060

severe hull
#

Why

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It's in my cart lol

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Speak now or forever hold your peace ✌️

weary galleon
#

Bad price/performance

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3060ti better, or 6600xt or 6700xt

severe hull
#

Want to stay away from amd

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And his pc is pretty basic to run a 3060ti

weary galleon
#

Amd is a lot better now

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Compared to the nightmare 5700xt

severe hull
#

Only reason I don't want to run it is because Nvidia is what he knows

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He's 10

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And ima newb

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We are learning together

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6700xt

weary galleon
#

You can get a 6600xt that will match the 3060 for $100 less

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Sorry that took forever to send for some reason

severe hull
#

Same price

weary galleon
#

Yeah 6700xt beats 3060 by 25% iirc

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Maybe a bit more

severe hull
#

Check the link

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That one good?

weary galleon
#

As far as I know, yes

severe hull
#

2 free games too

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@elfin flame good ?

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Let's do it !

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I'll be back after Christmas to ask how to install it and do ddu 🤣🤣

delicate flame
weary galleon
mossy venture
wild peak
icy crater
#

Is it artic p12 or noctua?

sturdy ermine
#

Hey everyone

#

Can someone here help me on a build or a pre-built option?

weary galleon
silver heath
#

Hey

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Someone think they could help me look for a nice prebuilt

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I have a budget of 1200 but I’m really tryna stay below 1000

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Using it for gaming

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I’m kinda clueless when it comes to evaluating prices so I could really use the help

sturdy ermine
#

@weary galleon look at your dm

weary galleon
#

It's much cheaper ($200-300) to build your own

neon condor
#

WHY HAVE I BEEN PINGED? spaz

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Yeah my man you good. It's on the chart.

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👌🏻

limber oyster
#

My next expansion to my PC...though I'm debating getting three expansion kits instead of two

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empty pollen
#

if only the text were a little bigger

upper tusk
#

I have everything but my gpu which i will order later. Cpu does have intregated graphics. Can i use my old gpu rx560 in the pcie 4.0 slot? To set up windows install games and everything but playing games?

mossy venture
#

You can use the 560 to do anything until you get the new gpu

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Including gaming

upper tusk
empty pollen
#

depend on the game 😛

mossy venture
#

Could prolly run like, valorant at 4k

empty pollen
#

or csgo

mossy venture
#

Minecraft

upper tusk
#

Also once i get new gpu do i need to uninstall drivers once i get new gpu getting a 6800xt

empty pollen
#

yes

#

ddu

mossy venture
#

You should

empty pollen
#

!ddu

still roostBOT
upper tusk
#

But its both amd

mossy venture
#

Still two diff gpus, it would be good to

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It's possible it won't cause issues, but its also possible it will

empty pollen
#

to eliminate that uncertainty you need to ddu always

upper tusk
#

Let me ask my brother about that

empty pollen
#

e_e

mossy venture
#

Why ask a question if you're not going to listen to the answer if it's not the answer you want lol

empty pollen
#

his brother must be a techie 😛

#

we could be wrong, you and me both bacca

#

btw glad to have you back home pal 😄

mossy venture
#

Nice to be home

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My dogs went crazy when they saw us lol

empty pollen
#

😄

frigid night
# upper tusk Let me ask my brother about that

Hm. Considering you called your brother an idiot for telling you to wait for amd gpu prices to drop even further after we told you that they have pretty well dropped as low as they are going to go, I'd think you'd be more inclined to just listen to us and not even bother wasting your time asking your "idiot" brother.

mossy venture
#

I haven't got a cancelation email from Walmart about the ssd I ordered

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So I think they're going to honor it

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That or send me the wrong size, in which case I'll just return it

empty pollen
#

i think the latter

#

like that one time when all the people went batcrazy here for a mistakenly priced 3080 pc and was a chromebook

#

maybe they will send you the wrong size

mossy venture
#

It hasn't shipped yet though

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Since the charge is still pending on my account

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So ig well see

#

Still possible it'll just get canceled

frigid night
# upper tusk But its both amd

It doesn't matter that they are both AMD. They are different cards with different specs. Drivers tailor themselves to that specific hardware. Take away that specific hardware and introduce something new to it, those drivers don't know what to do with it so things start going wrong. Let's see your brother give you that answer. samsungcool

empty pollen
#

yup most of the time you hit unstability or bsod for no reason at all

upper tusk
empty pollen
#

thats why is always recommended a ddu

frigid night
#

Don't use ddu for amd. It's not as effective

upper tusk
empty pollen
#

no

mossy venture
#

Mostly, sure. But when changing gpu at all you should ddu

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It takes like 20 minutes

#

Why risk having issues to save 20 minutes

frigid night
analog pulsar
wild peak
analog pulsar
#

I mean on another hand buying new tech is nice but how stable will it be on first launch

mossy venture
#

Come back when you're actually going to be buy the parts

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Because asking literally every day for a new list when prices change is pointless and annoying

#

It's been what, two weeks almost now?

wild peak
#

Sorry I’m new to this, and I don’t have the most money so I really don’t want to buy something that won’t be worth it, because I won’t be able to afford replacement for a number of years

frigid night
wild peak
frigid night
mossy venture
#

If you want to save money, a good 650w psu would support a 6800xt

#

If gf1 is still on sale that'll work

wild peak
mossy venture
#

One second then

wild peak
#

And I’m fine with the one you sent

#

It’s within my budget so we’re all good

mossy venture
#

Yeah there's no good 650s cheap rn

wild peak
#

Then that’s fine

fossil cedar
leaden raft
#

two questions, 1 im looking to way scale down my pc, my current build is just too big volume wize and i wanna take up less space on my desk, the only thing i wont do is custom loop. 2 i wanna get a good diagram for audio done to be able to do what i wanna do can anyone help me w that

little osprey
#

uwu

fossil cedar
#

And send back this link, not the one in the url bar

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Also what country?

leaden raft
#

US

#

theres also ql120's in it but i think i wanna replace those

#

besides gpu and cpu im not particularly attached to anything

#

like im open to moving to a smaller mobo to get into a smaller case, gpu permitting

mossy venture
#

What size case do you want?

#

Matx, or mitx?

leaden raft
#

smaller?

#

lol

mossy venture
#

Will def need a new mobo, and obviously case

leaden raft
#

sorry

#

idk

mossy venture
leaden raft
#

small as i can go while still fitting gpu

mossy venture
#

Then mitx is what you want

#

Pato will help you more, im in school atm

fossil cedar
#

Just know the aio comes with fans for both sides but don't do it like that either use them as case fans or sell them or something

leaden raft
fossil cedar
#

It does

mossy venture
#

Yeah it does

leaden raft
#

so aio mobo and case replace

#

and i could put whatever fans i want in it

mossy venture
#

P12s would be a good choice

leaden raft
#

perfect

fossil cedar
leaden raft
#

i appreciate yall ❤️

fossil cedar
#

Or the extra 2 that comes with the aio

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No prob

leaden raft
#

now just gotta sell my other pc lol

mossy venture
#

Oh ye, just take the fans that you alr have and rhe ones from the aio

#

That's the smarter choice lol

leaden raft
#

is the aio interchangeable at all?

fossil cedar
#

Wdym?

mossy venture
#

The one you already have?

leaden raft
#

i hate the fans i have

mossy venture
#

Then ye p12s

leaden raft
#

like do i gotta use an ek one

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i dont have p12s

#

im plannign on getting some

#

i have corsair ql120

mossy venture
#

Some other 280mm aios wouldn't fit I think

leaden raft
#

worst pc decision i ever made

fossil cedar
#

Ek make really good stuff would recommend

leaden raft
#

gotcha

#

i just wasnt sure if ek software wouldnt mesh with all the other ones

mossy venture
#

Yeah, ek is arguably the best aio maker

#

Does lf2 not fit pato?

leaden raft
#

i prolly wont go any rgb this time around anywya but still lol

mossy venture
#

The software will be fine ye

leaden raft
#

yah guess it dont rlly matter

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pl120 have little to no branding

#

and the ek waterblock is clean

#

cpu block*

fossil cedar
mossy venture
#

Ah rip

leaden raft
#

thank yall!

fossil cedar
leaden raft
#

prolly gonna keep rgb on waterblock to match gpu and those will be the only two with rgb

#

wait ram

#

so yah

paper summit
fossil cedar
#

Lol

strong raft
#

Also the non-flexboot is so bad. Bought a certain monoprice cable & completely sliced off the latch cover.

tawny fiber
#

soo the buddy with 12400f and 6600 is upgrading his rig

#

this came out to be the final list

#

he already has the mobo,ram,psu,ssd

weary galleon
#

Get a different ssd

#

Like mp33 is a good budget option but this is a 3.2k build

#

Also maybe wait for rdna3 instead of a $2000 Nvidia card idk

tawny fiber
weary galleon
#

Ah

stoic island
tawny fiber
stoic island
#

Might as well go less overkill on CPU and GPU and upgrade ram and SSD and all

tawny fiber
#

just min maxed af ik

stoic island
#

The ram will leave a lot to be desired

tawny fiber
#

hmm lemme convince him then

weary galleon
#

13900k with ddr4 3200 lol

tawny fiber
#

he will draw some girls on things like blender soo justifying that i9 to me

#

i actually dont understand what he means by that

#

i am more into gaming benchmarks tbh

mossy venture
#

16gb ram with a 4090 is insulting, please grab a second kit of the same ram if he already has a kit

tawny fiber
#

👍

#

well last i check a rm850x does fine with 4090 which is not atx 3.0 either

mossy venture
#

I think the mobo will be fine with a 13900k, just update bios forst

#

First

tawny fiber
mossy venture
#

Rmx handles transients better than the leadex iii, and 4090 with smthn like a 13600k might be fine

#

Not 13900k though

tawny fiber
#

hmmm i see

mossy venture
#

13900k alone can pull 300w

#

I think rme 1000w is cheap rn

#

Sale mightve ended though, I'll check

empty pollen
#

love to hear how much he will pay for that 4090 tho

tawny fiber
#

if it was me i would stick to 12400 and just get a 4090 lol

mossy venture
#

Yeah sale ended

tawny fiber
#

dk how much he will benefit in blender from i9

empty pollen
#

yeah problem is getting the 4090 below 2k

#

thats the challenge

mossy venture
#

$1800

empty pollen
#

you ruined my day bacca

mossy venture
#

Sorry ravell

#

Ily

tawny fiber
empty pollen
kindred pawn
#

I have a 3060, r7 5700g, 16 gb of ram, 128gb ssd and a asus b550m-k, what should I upgrade for Christmas? I was thinking my ram, I'll mainly be playing warzone 2

fossil cedar
tawny fiber
fossil cedar
#

No but all the parts

humble fossil
#

hi

fossil cedar
#

Because like obvs they cab reuse case motherboard etc if good enough

humble fossil
#

Yesterday I connected a ps4 controller and everything worked fine today it connects and disconnects why ?

mossy venture
fossil cedar
tawny fiber
#

Well ram,motherboard ,ssd,psu and case

fossil cedar
#

Can you put it in pcpp?

tawny fiber
fossil cedar
tawny fiber
#

around that mark

#

if it was me i would pair the 12400 with 4090 and be done with it but probably not the best idea for blender

fossil cedar
#

Ehh honestly i wouldn't go 12500 with 4090

tawny fiber
#

they said they will announce it this next ces

#

i mean video cardz said

fossil cedar
#

It should be out in January yeah

jaunty rover
#

Hey i need help with possibly upgrading my pc. i want to get a new motherboard bc the one i have currently is like a small one with only two ram slots but i wan a new one with 4 slots. i also might look into getting a new cpu in the future but i dont want to spend more than like $350 currently on the motherboard (price is flexible). can someone help me find a cool one?

#

Current Cpu is a amd ryzen 5 3400g with radeon vega graphcs and my motherboard is a x570 aorus pro wifi

kindred pawn
kindred pawn
fossil cedar
jaunty rover
cyan ravine
#

Changing mobo would serve you no performance gain at all there lol

fossil cedar
cyan ravine
#

Would just change cpu, if you need more ram you can sell your current sticks and get thicker density sticks in it (ie 2x8 to 2x16)

jaunty rover
cyan ravine
#

3400g is worthy of an upgrade, especially if you have a good gpu in there

cyan ravine
jaunty rover
#

or like b the same

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nice

cyan ravine
#

You get the net gain of selling the 2x8 ram

jaunty rover
#

can i use this current mobo with a ryzen 5 to get a ryzen 7?

#

idk

cyan ravine
#

Going to like, 5600, or 5800X3D and a new cooler both good ideas for you really, just depends on how far you want to stretch the pc (your psu wattage and specs will weigh into this)

#

You have a gpu yeah?

jaunty rover
#

i have a 1650

#

friend gave me it

cyan ravine
#

Ok 5600 then

#

And gpu you could upgrade to a 6600 without really thinking too hard

earnest olive
#

your priorities are completely backwards

#

you put square wheels on a lambo and want to upgrade it to a ferrari but keep the square wheels

jaunty rover
earnest olive
#

the square wheels = the ryzen 5 3400g

#

wrong link

cyan ravine
#

All we see is a blank page

jaunty rover
#

this work?

cyan ravine
#

You don't need a G

#

Just get 5600

#

No G

jaunty rover
#

whats the diff j curius

#

curious

cyan ravine
#

G has an iGPU and is much slower

earnest olive
#

G adds integrated graphics and drops one generation of cpu performance

jaunty rover
#

so now do i need a cooler?

cyan ravine
#

Nah, stock cooler is fine

#

All you need to do is update the bios

jaunty rover
tawny fiber
kindred pawn
cyan ravine
#

@jaunty rover just make sure you update to the latest bios before putting the 5600 in

jaunty rover
#

ok

earnest olive
#

r3 3200g similar to r3 2300x
r5 3400g similar to r5 2500x
r5 5600g similar to r5 3600
r7 5700g similar to r7 3700x

fossil cedar