building-and-recc-chat

[undone saddle]

Can you send me compatible one with around 200$

[mossy venture]

https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232861?

[undone saddle]

Why does it say for amd

[mossy venture]

ignore it

just stupid marketing

[undone saddle]

Yeah never knew ram is also cpu specific

[potent portal]

It isn't

[undone saddle]

[potent portal]

The funny thing is they'll charge more for the exact same kit if they just slap "for Intel" into the description

[undone saddle]

Lol

Now for some lian li fans

[mossy venture]

it's 3600c16, which is some of the best ram to buy that isnt overpriced

[undone saddle]

Nice

[undone saddle]

360 aio doesn't fit in the lian li o11 air mini?

Just noticed it might not fit lol

[potent portal]

280mm max

[fossil cedar]

Welll

Technically it fits a 360 on top it's just a bit janky

[gloomy glen]

Does anyone know whether It’s better to get an EVGA 3080 ftw3 or xc3?

There’s a $20 difference in the prices

Rn

[fossil cedar]

Ftw3

[oblique sage]

@visual bone can we tweak that first build some

[fossil cedar]

Although if you're in the us
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/qFytt6/msi-geforce-rtx-3080-12gb-lhr-12-gb-gaming-z-trio-video-card-geforce-rtx-3080-gaming-z-trio-12g-lhr

[fossil cedar]

Wrong ping lol but ye whats up?

[oblique sage]

would these MB's be a waste of money to fork the extra cash?

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09J64TBJG?tag=tech4gamers08-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1

[fossil cedar]

Yes

The one i put in the list is already overkill

[unborn mesa]

https://a.co/d/3hgcFOL is this m.2 fine or no

[fossil cedar]

Looks like a p34a60 or a60 or something I can't see and Amazon wants to open app in us which is annoying

Those are both decent models ye

[unborn mesa]

70 usd for it

[fossil cedar]

Although team mp33 is better and cheaper
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/64MTwP/team-mp33-1-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-tm8fp6001t0c101

[unborn mesa]

Cant find the 2tb model

[fossil cedar]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/C3xbt6/team-mp33-2-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-tm8fp6002t0c101

✨Use pcpp ✨

[unborn mesa]

Smart

Thanks

Pato any idea what i could use to get my lights to sync up

I tried open rgb

[fossil cedar]

I am not an rgb person tbh i only know of open rgb really

[forest briar]

Corsairs iCue software can pick stuff up on certain boards

[oblique sage]

ok just ordered everything except cpu cooler, memory, and harddrive so far.

[unborn mesa]

The board is fine just the gpu wont sync to the board

Basically stuck like this

[icy crater]

Does anyone know why my laptop screen flickers when I connect to a monitor and try to play valorant?

[jagged ember]

does it flicker while you're playing on the external monitor?

or do you mean it flickers when you connect to it and that's it

[untold vessel]

does the evga clc 280 come with a y splitter? I only have one 4-pin cpu fan thing on my motherboard

[frigid night]

I believe it does.

even if not, they are cheap to buy.

[willow quest]

I keep getting the select boot drive error when I turn on my computer. I made sure my boot drive was connected and everything. When I go to BIOS to select the boot option, my SSD does not show up.

[desert gulch]

You can just plug the fans/pump into another header

It'll just be on a different curve at worst, but that's super easy to adjust in bios

Just plug the pump into the aio/pump header if you have one, and both fans on CPU fan and then CPU opt or something I'd you have it

[undone saddle]

What does this mean

[stray panther]

So I “built” it to the best of my ability but I’m scared to turn it on

[undone saddle]

Mounting bracket not included or what?

[stray panther]

I couldn’t figure out how to use screw in the 3 motherboard mount thkngs

Do I keep trying to make the screws work or do I turn it on?

The case included a motherboard mount thing

By default and I didn’t have to instal it or anything

[ornate condor]

wait does those things really helps to tomps ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYU1OskbY-Q

[frigid night]

It means you'll need to find a cooler that has a LGA1700 mounting bracket with it.

[frigid night]

Yes.

The stock IHS bends the cpu so the contact frame is there to keep the cpu flat so the cooler gets a more even contact

[ornate condor]

but looks like installing is risky

[frigid night]

Only if you don't know what you are doing.

[desert gulch]

Better than the washer mod, lol

[frigid night]

There is a couple vids on how to do it.

[desert gulch]

Washer mod was def more sketch than those frames

Imo

[ornate condor]

frame is like 16$ at amazon

[frigid night]

The thermal grizzly one us like $50

[ornate condor]

I wonder if it can lover temps of my 12900k or at least help with fan speeds

https://www.amazon.com/Thermalright-Correction-Retrofit-17XX-BCF-Generation/dp/B0B4W54K7R/ref=sr_1_4?keywords=intel+12th+gen+contact+frame&qid=1659054644&s=electronics&sprefix=intel+12th+gen+contac%2Celectronics%2C242&sr=1-4

[frigid night]

You'll most definitely lower temps.

[oblique sage]

ok so i ordered everything on that list minus the memory. Any other options i could find through amazon that might be comparable for cheaper or same price?

[ornate condor]

so I can overclock it to 5.3ghz

[stray panther]

Super specific question but I’m a noob, does the corsair 4000d airflow come pre installed with mobo standoffs?

I haven’t turned it on yet

Too scared

Some Google says yes

But I don’t want to screw it up

I’ll cry

[formal girder]

It should have preinstalled standoffs

What mobo did you choose?

Also very odd time to ask that question if you already installed your motherboard to the case

[stray panther]

Thank god

[still roost]

Kamden#3080 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[midnight pelican]

true

[stray panther]

I don’t know anything when it comes to anything

[midnight pelican]

Haha

[stray panther]

Reddit said it was fine

[midnight pelican]

Yeah

[stray panther]

And the motherboard is GIGABYTE Z590 AORUS ELITE AX LGA 1200 Intel Z590 ATX Motherboard with Triple M.2, PCIe 4.0, USB 3.2 Gen2X2 Type-C, Intel WIFI 6, 2.5GbE

[midnight pelican]

You need motherboard standoffs to fit the motherboard into the io shield

so yes if you can plug anything into the back then it’s installed properly

[stray panther]

Reassurance is key

So thank you guys

[oblique sage]

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B088T3VMKK/ref=ewc_pr_img_4?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1 can i find this case without RGB lights. Im going for a complete stealth build no RGB

[willow quest]

I bought the Corsair crystal 465x case and I was not able to mount my AIO at the top because my ram was in the way. I’m returning it and was hoping I could get a recommendation for a big enough case. Anyone got reccs?

[brittle tinsel]

Update on the mobo/gpu/ram issue, they swapped out the gpu and no more black screen issues, now they can’t play games more tHan 10 fps any ideas?

[rich void]

Any particular reason you wouldn't go for this one?
https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16811112603?Description=lancool iii&cm_re=lancool_iii-_-9SIAFSTHN48340-_-Product&quicklink=true

[potent portal]

Lancool III is good but definitely not a case for beginners

And pricy

[mossy venture]

You could also just... not plug the rgb headers in

Or here https://pcpartpicker.com/product/NkK2FT/phanteks-eclipse-p500a-atx-mid-tower-case-ph-ec500atg_bk01

I believe it still has the mesh front

Hard to tell on mobile tho

[brittle tinsel]

When you swap gpus, is cmos reset or ddu recommended? He swapped from 1660 ti back to 1080 ti and now only gets 7 FPS in games

[strong raft]

Possible PSA for everyone to not crank down the new socket frame.

[strong raft]

ddu perhaps, sure. 7FPS is wack. Could at least just uninstall drivers, change card, then do newers drivers and the "clean install" box to reset nvidia settings.

[brittle tinsel]

Won’t let us, he still has latest from last night

His ram is also still in slot 1,3 I haven’t had him test 2,4 not sure how heavy that depends on game

[oblique sage]

didnt think of that ill probably just go RGB and not plug in because the non RGB version only comes with 2 fans

[brittle tinsel]

If you weren’t apart of the troubleshooting last night his pc would only post with slots 1,3. Slots 2,4 would throw dram error

But that could have been from the gpu going walk, I don’t know

[strong raft]

Slot 1 &3 isn't an outright bad thing if it works.. Anyways , ddu isn't tough so might as well do that. Follow the instructions like disabling internet during the reboot so windows doesn't auto install their driver.

[rich void]

Did you look at the price of the case they're looking at?

[oblique sage]

this is also a nice choice i could grab. thanks for the link

[potent portal]

No I just got here

But I saw the review on the lancool, price puts it in competition with bigger cases

[mossy venture]

Ddu

[rich void]

(D) 526mm x (W) 238mm x (H) 523mm
vs.
240 mm x 510 mm x 505 mm

Which one is the lancool?

[frigid night]

Is this on the PC that is known to work? If so you probably need to DDU so you can get fresh tailored drivers to that GPU.

[brittle tinsel]

I read the wrong, this is the pc that don’t work

[frigid night]

If after the drivers are installed and it stays the same and/or black screen again, then it's likely the GPU is bad since it would be having issues in both PCs. At that point the only other thing I'd suggest is vbios flash to see if somehow that got corrupted.

and if that doesn't work, then.. new gpu.

[brittle tinsel]

They swapped the 1660 for 1080 they had laying around. But after ddu and nvidia wouldn’t install

They were running of if intel intergrated

[frigid night]

What do you mean nvidia wouldn't install?

[brittle tinsel]

It said it required a nvidia gpu

[frigid night]

I thought it was a 3080?

[oblique sage]

okay after many recommendations from the great community thisis the build i have decided on. If you have any other recommendations lmk honestly the only things i am unsure of are the memory and hardrive. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bXj6pH

[brittle tinsel]

But like I said, they had the mobo plugged in, not the gpu

[frigid night]

Is this USD?

[brittle tinsel]

No, he originally had swapped from 1080 ti to 1660 then a year later we have this issue. So he went back to the 1080 ti but now the 1080 ti won’t give picture as to the 1660 did before black screening and rebooting

[mossy venture]

Imo spend $10 more for the p31 2tb

[frigid night]

shouldn't matter where the hdmi/DP is plugged in.. If the GPU is slotted correctly and plugged in with the pcie power, then the drivers should have installed.

[oblique sage]

yes usd

[oblique sage]

link please

[mossy venture]

Legit just search p31 on pcp

[oblique sage]

ok got yah thanks

[frigid night]

@brittle tinsel from all the info you've given. It seems like he may just need to upgrade his system. It sounds like there are issues with it all.

[mossy venture]

I'd try clearing cmos, maybe different ram

[frigid night]

It will most likely end up being cheaper for him to do so then to keep buying parts over and over because they keep breaking.

We spent 8 hours last night troubleshooting.

it's far more than just cmos or different ram

also, he has had issues in the past with parts dying seemingly for no reason with his setup.

[undone saddle]

Like tbis?

[oblique sage]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B099RHVB42?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1 this is correct?

[frigid night]

yes.

[undone saddle]

Thanks

[mossy venture]

Then likely a faulty psu or he's doing something stupid

[mossy venture]

Yes

[mossy venture]

Imo just get an ak620

[frigid night]

It's not a question of whether he should get it or not lol. He was asking a specific question about bracket and his mobo

[mossy venture]

Ah

[undone saddle]

Rather go with aio and all lian li

[mossy venture]

For why

Brand loyalty is stupid, you end up overpaying

And a 240mm aio will maybe be 2c better than an ak620

Not to mention lf2 280 is same price as lian li galahad 240

[undone saddle]

I dont like these huge air coolers

[mossy venture]

...so you prefer huge aios?

[brittle tinsel]

Ffs, now I have no knowledge of the 1080 ti, so I need help here, but he only has the 6 pin pcie to it, does the 1080 ti need both 6 pin and 8 pin to power on?

[frigid night]

I don't either. Get whatever makes you happy as long as you can safely spend more $ for the performance ratio

[mossy venture]

A 240mm takes more space than a big heatsink

[undone saddle]

Doesnt look huge tho

[frigid night]

That being said.. I wouldn't suggest paying to much for something that is wayy less performance.

[undone saddle]

Yeah true

[oblique sage]

quick question is the platinum version worth 50 bux more than the gold? @mossy venture

[frigid night]

yes. that is why there are 2

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/smDkcf/arctic-liquid-freezer-ii-280-728-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-acfre00066a

[undone saddle]

I rather get 360 aio but the case would be huge

[mossy venture]

Not if you're gaming

[oblique sage]

ok thanks

[mossy venture]

G360a

Also 280s are similar to 360s

[frigid night]

what cpu do you have or getting?

[mossy venture]

If I'm remembering right, they're getting a 12700k and not ocing it

[undone saddle]

Much better than thr lian one?

[mossy venture]

Might be a different person

[undone saddle]

I7 12700k

[frigid night]

about same performance.

[mossy venture]

Well, it's 280 vs 240. They're both great quality, but unless the galahsd is $20 or more cheaper it isn't worth getting

The 280 is much better than a 240 thouvh

[frigid night]

oof I didn't look at sizes

[mossy venture]

And if you're not ocing, there's no point to getting a k sku (aside from 12600k)

[frigid night]

I do know the galahad 360 is slightly better than the arctic 360.

especially if you replace the galahad fans with arctics fans

[mossy venture]

12700f performs the exact same as a 12700k unless you're ocing

Also no point to a z690 unless you need multiple nvme drives

[undone saddle]

Yeah not ocing

[mossy venture]

Then just get a 12700f and b660

[undone saddle]

Yeah i will use 4 nvme

[mossy venture]

For why

[undone saddle]

Start with 2 and upgrade

[mossy venture]

Why start with two and not one big one... and sata drives are also an option

Whatever, 12700f and msi z690-a

[undone saddle]

Because as far as i saw they are almost same prices as sata ssd

[mossy venture]

Mobo also costs extra

And depends

4tb sata ssds tend to be cheaper than 4tb nvme

How much storage do you need anyways

[undone saddle]

Alot lol

[mossy venture]

Very descriptive

8tb? 16?

[undone saddle]

I have 3tb now on my laptop and not enough

So like 8tb

[mossy venture]

And is it just mass storage?

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/p7nypg/crucial-mx500-4-tb-25-solid-state-drive-ct4000mx500ssd1 for a sata drive

Boot drive https://pcpartpicker.com/product/qCqPxr/adata-xpg-gammix-s70-blade-2-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-agammixs70b-2t-cs

Secondary https://pcpartpicker.com/product/C3xbt6/team-mp33-2-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-tm8fp6002t0c101

Could also do p31 as boot drive

Just depends what you're doing

If gaming, p31

[brittle tinsel]

Well both powers are in and pc still doesn’t detect the gpu

[frigid night]

and this is on the working working pc?

[brittle tinsel]

No the broken from last night’s t

[frigid night]

ok so the last I knew that we were troubleshooting was seeing if the GPU worked in the working pc..

[brittle tinsel]

They haven’t done that, they are afraid of breaking the last working one

[frigid night]

ok, then there is really nothing else we can do.

[brittle tinsel]

They went back the to 1080 ti because it worked previously in only one pc not the working one

[frigid night]

We've already done everything with the pc that is acting up.

[brittle tinsel]

The 1080 wouldn’t work in pc 2(working one atm) but did in pc 1(current issue)

[frigid night]

at that point they can either try to get a new PSU.. and if that doesn't work then a new mobo.. and if that doesn't work then they may as well buld a new pc.

[brittle tinsel]

Would cmos help any in this case?

[frigid night]

you can try. I thought that was already done though

[brittle tinsel]

It has been but not with the new gpu(previous)

[frigid night]

can try again. I don't see it changing anything though since it's technically at default since it was done.

[brittle tinsel]

Ah, I just don’t understand why it detects the 1660 but can’t handle stress on the gpu. Yet it doesn’t detect the old working 1080. It also doesn’t black screen in intel igpu

[frigid night]

it's either the PSU or MOBO that is faulty.

or BOTH

[brittle tinsel]

How would we be able to rule one out using the working pc?

[frigid night]

Use the PSU from the faulty PC in the working PC. But what would require rebuilding the working PC cable wise.

actually.

take the working pc PSU and put it in the non working PC

and see if the gpu will load up.

If it loads up and works fine, then it's the old PSU.. if you still have issues it's the MOBO

What wattage is the old PSU and the working pc PSU?

[brittle tinsel]

Old 700 working is 550

They are worried the 550 won’t work

[desert gulch]

itll be fine

[brittle tinsel]

550 should be enough for 1080 ti and i7 6700k though right

[desert gulch]

easily

as long as its a half decent unit

a group reg may have some issues

[brittle tinsel]

It’s a 550 thermaltake lite power serues

[frigid night]

since it's for testing purposes and not for a daily thing, I think it'll be fine

[mossy venture]

Eeeee

No

Plox

[brittle tinsel]

Plox?

[mossy venture]

Please

That psu is a whole lot of no

[desert gulch]

if its a crap groupreg, still may have issues

[brittle tinsel]

The 700 watt is a cougar cmx

[mossy venture]

No clue on that one

[frigid night]

i misread your comment

[mossy venture]

If I was on pc I'd check the tier list

[brittle tinsel]

Well the 700 watt is the one we are trying to rule out as faulty or not

[desert gulch]

lite power rgb is f tier

[brittle tinsel]

F tier?

[mossy venture]

Meaning it can literally blow up

[obsidian wigeon]

^

[mossy venture]

As in

Boom

[desert gulch]

yup its a group reg

piece of trash

[brittle tinsel]

Where are you guys getting these “tiers” from?

[obsidian wigeon]

Cultists tier list

[mossy venture]

There's a list pinned in #cases-psu-and-cooling

[obsidian wigeon]

^

[desert gulch]

whole lot of group reg

[mossy venture]

Thermaltake has a lot of really bad psus

[mossy venture]

Do you know where the cougar cmx is?

[desert gulch]

c tier

[mossy venture]

If its low, could be the issue

[desert gulch]

not the best but fine for a 1080ti imo

[mossy venture]

Well, could be either way

[desert gulch]

actually wait

it depends on what version the cmx is

v3 is c tier, v1/2 are e tier

[mossy venture]

It's old, so im going to assume 1 or 2

[desert gulch]

so if its a v3 its not great but its fine

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/49VG3C/evga-supernova-gt-650-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-220-gt-0650-y1

Or https://pcpartpicker.com/product/RkjBD3/asus-tuf-gaming-b-550-w-80-bronze-certified-atx-power-supply-tuf-gaming-550b

[brittle tinsel]

Would ram not working unless it’s in 1,3 instead of 2,4 rule out the psu issue and point towards motherboard?

[obsidian wigeon]

Not really

It can't be certain

[undone saddle]

Thanks will check these out

[brittle tinsel]

Would the thermaltake lite power be sufficient to test if it was the psu?

[mossy venture]

No

[desert gulch]

we dont even know how good it is

[mossy venture]

It could literally catch fire

I would not even plug it in

[brittle tinsel]

It’s in their working pc that has been pushed to the limit for years

[desert gulch]

it could be a hec, solytech, hell, it could even be a cwt

[brittle tinsel]

Like 5-6 years now maybe more

English please?

[desert gulch]

we dont even know whats in that psu

at best, its a crap psu

[mossy venture]

At worst, it's an ied

[obsidian wigeon]

IED

[brittle tinsel]

It has rx 570, and a amd r5 2600 for the thermal take 550w

[desert gulch]

if you think the smart was bad, this is actually worse

thats how bad the litepower is

[obsidian wigeon]

sheesh

[potent portal]

N1 moment

[obsidian wigeon]

litepower, more like lite explosion

kek

[desert gulch]

w1 was worse

n1 somehow didnt blow up like the w1 xD

[obsidian wigeon]

n1 just

[desert gulch]

even though theyre quite similar

[obsidian wigeon]

caught the whole pc and desk on fire

iirc

[stoic island]

thought it was n1 that lit on fire

[desert gulch]

nah

[undone saddle]

I have never seen evga 3080 for $770.....and found one now should I secure it while still look for other parts?

[brittle tinsel]

Do you have a link to a quality cheap psu I can send them the link for? Something to run a 1080ti/1660tj with an i7 6700k

[obsidian wigeon]

tuf b 550

the one bacca sent the links of

[desert gulch]

@stoic island https://youtu.be/60jVEwq44ZU

[stoic island]

yea that's the video I was thinking of

guess it was w1

[brittle tinsel]

He is asking if this is good.

https://www.scorptec.com.au/product/power-supplies/atx/86624-cp-9020218-au?gclid=Cj0KCQjw54iXBhCXARIsADWpsG-XfW-Clfnjn8rB_Iod3DvsIC_iZzd-z2Jsqt1PubEBR5oSs9BcJ_0aAoYFEALw_wcB

[stoic island]

cx-f is good in general but depends on price

[desert gulch]

its unlisted idk why

[obsidian wigeon]

huh au

alright

[potent portal]

"B" tier, good for like a 3070 ti

[stoic island]

yea I was looking for it on yt and couldn't find it

[brittle tinsel]

Yeah they are au I’m us

[stoic island]

130aud is meh, not a good deal but usable

[mossy venture]

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/TDjJ7P/antec-earthwatts-gold-pro-750w-80-gold-certified-semi-modular-atx-power-supply-ea750g-pro

Better psu and cheaper

[potent portal]

You probably wouldn't see the RGB on the power supply anyway

[mossy venture]

Also a decent psu and cheap https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/GwkWGX/asus-tuf-gaming-750-w-80-bronze-certified-atx-power-supply-tuf-gaming-750b

90 aud for a B tier 750, kinda hot

[undone saddle]

I have never seen evga 3080 for $770.....and found one now should I secure it while still look for other parts?

[desert gulch]

The only place you'd see the RGB is on the power bill... Lol

[stoic island]

From what storefront

[mossy venture]

The rog strix 3080 12gb is $800 rn

Or this https://pcpartpicker.com/product/m2yqqs/evga-geforce-rtx-3080-10-gb-xc3-ultra-gaming-video-card-10g-p5-3885-kr

[undone saddle]

12gb nice

[stoic island]

is it? looks like only gaming oc is

[mossy venture]

Strix went up, tuf is $800 tho https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Rdwypg/asus-geforce-rtx-3080-12gb-lhr-12-gb-tuf-gaming-video-card-tuf-rtx3080-12g-gaming

[undone saddle]

50$ difference for the 2gb guess worth it

This is good for the i7 12700k?

[frigid night]

wait until they get PSU and see if that fixes the issues first

sorry haven't been part of convo, been mixing ejuice. Got a $100 order I gotta have done by tonight.

[mossy venture]

Not a good aio

[undone saddle]

Couldnt even find vids about it lol

[mossy venture]

If you really want rgb that badly, get an ek aio

[undone saddle]

Rgp not very important just want 280

1700 socket

[mossy venture]

The lf2 is one of the best aios around

Especially the 280 at $110

[brittle tinsel]

is there a cheaper alternative to this board?
https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B150-Gaming-M3/Specification I think they found one for like $300 aud. and thats quite high isnt it?
they need one to fit a i7 6700k

[mossy venture]

buying an old board new isnt good

theyd have to look for used

that, or they could do this https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/R9jLCz

[strong raft]

Mr2222 and Bacca? https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-Graphics-DisplayPort-Axial-tech-2-9-Slot/dp/B09QH9NT3V?th=1

[mossy venture]

@undone saddle

get that ^

its the best air cooled 30 series aib

[brittle tinsel]

is the 1660 ti or 1080 ti better?

[mossy venture]

1080 ti, by far

1660 ti=1070

1080 ti=2070s without dlss/rtx

[brittle tinsel]

what about the encoder for stream/recording?

[mossy venture]

1660 ti has a slightly better one, but the difference in performance more than makes up for it

even when streaming the 1080 ti is a good bit better

[strong raft]

1080 Ti was a beast. source:

[mossy venture]

1080 ti is pog

[brittle tinsel]

you dont need the lock for the ram slots right? they may have just broke one

[mossy venture]

i mean

i broke my pcie lock

[stoic island]

Something needs to hold it in

what holds it in doesn't matter, just that something has to

[jagged ember]

duct tape

[brittle tinsel]

nvm they fixed it, the lock came out of socket

it locks and works normal now

I have no idea

[frigid night]

If they are looking for a new board.. Def go with what Gorf suggested. That will be quite a bit better than what they currently have.

I'd almost suggest just getting it along with the new psu and just be done with their old build.

[mossy venture]

meh, can just buy a cheap board used

[brittle tinsel]

i dont thnk the case supports matx

[mossy venture]

if its atx it does

if its mitx or itx it does not

[undone saddle]

Not on newegg?

[mossy venture]

might not be

idk

[undone saddle]

On amazon i will receive it oct

[mossy venture]

i see

[undone saddle]

Cheapest on newegg

[mossy venture]

get the cheapest 3080 you can find where you live

10gb or 12gb, doesnt really matter

well actually

avoid ventus

aside from that, pretty much the cheapest you can find

[undone saddle]

Our prices are higher so newegg is best bet

Here they are scammers lol

Will just order that for $850

[brittle tinsel]

ok, ram works in slot 2, 4 now, and igpu works normal, when they power up a 1660 ti it black screens under load. when they plug in the 1080 ti with all 10 pins of power it doesnt boot unless igpu and doesnt register the 1080 ti, but does the 1660 ti

what is the power draw of the 1660 ti vs 1080 ti?

[mossy venture]

def psu issue

[brittle tinsel]

personally I would say this all poiunts to psu no>?

nvm gorf beat me xD

[frigid night]

aye

[undone saddle]

Any promo codes?

Ganna order the 3080 12gb for now

Also its $970 with VAT lol my bad

[oblique sage]

@mossy venture any recommendations for memory. im impatient with shipping trying to see if i can find something better or the same that will ship faster https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4GGytn

[mossy venture]

i would just get ddr4

[oblique sage]

wouldnt i have to change Mobo?

[mossy venture]

yes

[oblique sage]

i just ordered everything except the memory id hate to have to cancel.

[mossy venture]

not exactly hard to

its an overpriced mobo anyways

and ddr5 isnt worth it

[potent portal]

DDR5 currently is only as good as mid-high tier DDR4 while costing 4x as much

[oblique sage]

so so which mobo/memory combo would you lean toward with the rest of the setup staying the same

[frigid night]

that mobo cost as much as my ddr4 mobo, but that ram costs 2.5x more than my ddr4 that runs at 4000c16

[potent portal]

And the "future proofing" idea is flawed because the memory won't go fast enough to keep for the future and the mobo likely won't ever go over 6000

[frigid night]

Others will disagree with me because they don't like the price, but MSI MAG Z690 TOMAHAWK WIFI DDR4 is a great board.

[desert gulch]

with how high end that build is, im surprised to not see a p41 on there

[frigid night]

If you can find 2x16 ballistix 3200.. It has great OC potential. That's what I have and run 4000c16

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/gCCFf7/crucial-ballistix-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3200-memory-bl2k16g32c16u4b

[mossy venture]

not really worth 140 tho

samer price as a 3600c16 kit

[frigid night]

Eh, it seems price does not matter to this guy if he's willing to spend 250 on ram so for good ocable ram I'd say it's great deal for him.

[mossy venture]

yeah, but the 3600c16 kit will legit just be either better or the same

[frigid night]

Link

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/zcH8TW/gskill-ripjaws-v-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-f4-3600c16d-32gvkc

[oblique sage]

which motherboard will give me maximum usable performace tho

[mossy venture]

check out the tomahawk

i hope i spelled that right

tomohawk?

[frigid night]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/X6mmP6/msi-mag-z690-tomahawk-wifi-ddr4-atx-lga1700-motherboard-mag-z690-tomahawk-wifi-ddr4

[undone saddle]

Done and ordered this 3080ti for $1200

[mossy venture]

why

3080 12gb is legit 2% worse

[frigid night]

waow, that's what I got my sapphire nitro+ pure 6950xt for lol

[undone saddle]

The normal one was about $1000 so was like why not lol

[mossy venture]

because $200 for 2% performance is pointless

[undone saddle]

True but to be honest i spent on worse

Wont change for couple years

[frigid night]

@undone saddle I totally get it. If you want it bad enough.. you'll spend to get it. Just like I could have went for a 6900xt for much cheaper, but I wanted the looks of the 6950xt

I already have a 360 LFII and I still just bought a Galahad.. for the looks.

[oblique sage]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jkRD78

ok so check her out now and i save $100 bux

[undone saddle]

Idk if i should have went this $ 1570

[mossy venture]

no

no you shouldnt have

[undone saddle]

Lol good

[mossy venture]

i would have thrown a frog at you if you did

[runic spruce]

3090 ti isn’t worth it

Basically a 500w heater

[mossy venture]

neither is the 3080 ti, i mean what

[undone saddle]

[cyan ravine]

[undone saddle]

[potent portal]

Say what you want but my 3090 kept my whole house warm while mining in the winter. The only time my heater ever kicked in was when I forgot I left a window open.

[runic spruce]

Is there evga bstock in your country?

They have really good deals

[undone saddle]

Double the price here in Saudi arabia

Lol

[runic spruce]

My i7 10700k kept my room warm playing cinebench

Tho when the heater kicked in my aio was burning up

[undone saddle]

Home heater lol

Is 12700 as hot as 12900

[runic spruce]

No

[mossy venture]

no

[runic spruce]

It should be a couple degrees lower

Less cores

[undone saddle]

I see

If we had micro center here id go broke

Pc heaven

[potent portal]

Here's a better one sorry

[runic spruce]

Bestbuy is good enough lol

Ik this guy that photo shopped like 20 of these pics

Bro made a bestbuy religion

[oblique sage]

thanks again guys saved me some money on that mobo and memory combo

[undone saddle]

234 not bad

[grand quartz]

Is this the correct chat to pose trouble shooting questions?

[runic spruce]

Yea

[grand quartz]

Okay. I just installed a 5700x and my first AIO. Redid my PSU cables with the new addition. Everything boots, but I have no display. Monitors cycle through HDMI/DP ports then say no signal.

Fans on, RGB to my GPU are on.

[runic spruce]

Do u have postcodes?

[grand quartz]

I'm not sure what that is, I'm sorry. Kind of fresh on all of this.

[runic spruce]

Well your mobo might have leds blinking on it

What are your components

[grand quartz]

B450 Tomahawk. 2080ti. 5700x.

850 supernova.

There is 1 solid red light on the mobo currently.

[desert gulch]

bios needs updated

almost 100% certain unless you already did it

[grand quartz]

For the 5700x?

[runic spruce]

Yea

5000 series need bio updates

[grand quartz]

Okay. I'll look into it. Doesn't sound like I messed up too much then.

I appreciate the insight!

[subtle halo]

what do i need to find to have long cable for starting pc.. @visual notch

i forgot the term

pins stuff

[mossy venture]

bios update is easy, did you upgrade your cpu?

if so, youll need your old one

[grand quartz]

I still have my old one.

[mossy venture]

easy then

just need a usb drive and to put your cpu back in

[runic spruce]

You’ll have to repaste

[subtle halo]

yes yes

is there a store that sells custom lenght

[runic spruce]

You’ll need some new paste which will be sort of a hassle

If u don’t have any

[desert gulch]

is it a tomahawk max or just tomahawk?

[mossy venture]

should have extra

[runic spruce]

U could flash the bios

But idk idk if the board can do it

[desert gulch]

thats why i asked if it was a max or not

[drowsy zodiac]

hard to update

?

[desert gulch]

very unlikely to run into that issue

you basically have to get double-screwed nowadays

[drowsy zodiac]

and if i did is it hard or nah

lmaoo

my luck is not to great tbh

[mossy venture]

you have astronomical odds of it happening

like, below .001 if i had to throw a random guess out

[drowsy zodiac]

oh

yeah i’ll be good

[desert gulch]

if it did happen, youd just return the board or even the cpu

[drowsy zodiac]

lol

ok fs

thanks!

[grand quartz]

Max. It has a Flash Bios button. I will throw it on a USB in the morning.

[desert gulch]

sick, yeah, that makes it easy then

you wont even need to swap cpus

[mossy venture]

^

[grand quartz]

Would I know if I have other issues before this? Or I won't know until I've updated the bios

I guess the cpu is working and installed correctly with the AIO, yeah?

[desert gulch]

most likely

[strong raft]

600 series supports basically all (12th gen) cpus w/ factory bios, excluding maybe 12900KS which is newer than the others.

[desert gulch]

not all

[strong raft]

"basically".

[desert gulch]

if you didnt bend any pins, and didnt torque the hell out of the aio on one corner and apply uneven pressure, then you did it right

[desert gulch]

some 12400f can have problems with some original factory bios

[drowsy zodiac]

gonna be me^

[desert gulch]

highly unlikely

around the same odds as having 5600x not work with a b550 off amazon out of the box

maybe even less likely

[drowsy zodiac]

so what like idk how to explain if my cpu doesn’t work with the board how will i know?

[grand quartz]

With AIO what difference could I expect from a 120mm air cooler? (I can move to the other chat if necessary.)

[mossy venture]

240mm

but youre better off getting an ak620 than a 240mm aio

[desert gulch]

hard to say without knowing what 120mm cooler

[desert gulch]

they already have aio installed

[mossy venture]

oh i get it

[desert gulch]

i think theyre asking perf/temp diff type of thing

[mossy venture]

120mm aio?

[desert gulch]

air cooler

240mm aio now

i think

[grand quartz]

Cooler master 212 Hyper.

[desert gulch]

what aio?

[mossy venture]

h212 is very bad

[grand quartz]

Kraken x52

[desert gulch]

its a much better cooler

itll keep that 5700x pretty nice

[grand quartz]

Is there a temp I should be looking at as acceptable with an AIO?

[drowsy zodiac]

i’m still trying to figure out what air cooler would be good for my build

[desert gulch]

depends on what temps and what workload

preferably you wouldnt hit over like 80c in a benchmark imo

with that aio and cpu

[grand quartz]

Okay. That's a jumping point for me. I don't do much... MMO + movies.

Occasionally whatever pops up on Steam.

Thanks all!

[desert gulch]

no problem!

[grand quartz]

I'll grow up and work on cable management next.

[strong raft]

Most likely would have a cpu debug led go on, but seriously don't worry about it for now. bios update is also pretty easy, could do that instantly anyways. As for HSF since dual tower thermalrights aren't really on sale currently, here's 1 option to glance at for $30. https://www.amazon.com/ID-COOLING-SE-224-XT-Cooler-Heatpipes-Cooling/dp/B08BY9P911

[mossy venture]

214xt

:p

vetroo v5

[drowsy zodiac]

extremely confused lol

this will be my first build

oh and cad btw

@strong raft

[strong raft]

Gorf, tag you in.

[drowsy zodiac]

so do i worry about the cpu or it will be fine lol so many mixed opinions

[mossy venture]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/sk22FT/arctic-freezer-34-esports-cpu-cooler-acfre00058a

that yellow kinda ugly lmao

[drowsy zodiac]

so with that does it have the bracket or do i even need one?

[mossy venture]

atually not sure, one sec

comes with one

[drowsy zodiac]

is there any i5 11th gen that compares to the i5 12400f

and won’t have any bios issues or whatever

lol

[mossy venture]

yes but no

[drowsy zodiac]

what about the 11400f

[mossy venture]

not worth getting instead

[drowsy zodiac]

i just don’t want it to be hard yk

[mossy venture]

ive had over 30 people buy an msi mobo and a 12400f

and they havent had issues

believe me, itll be fine

[drowsy zodiac]

what about what this guy said

[mossy venture]

if youre really that worried, here https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/Bmsjj2

[strong raft]

Seriously don't worry about it for now, lol. Actually I decided to check and that Freezer 34 is super overpriced tbh. I suggest any of these 3 for the price. https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/products/cpu-cooler/#sort=price&X=0,3000&c=40

[drowsy zodiac]

okok

[drowsy zodiac]

that mobo better?

[mossy venture]

no

[drowsy zodiac]

worse lol?

[mossy venture]

yes but no bios issue possible

but again

it is super unlikely

[desert gulch]

I had a friend who had an issue, but keep in mind this was right after ADL release

[drowsy zodiac]

well two people are saying two different things idk

it’s confusing lol

[mossy venture]

again

it is possible

but very very unlikely

[drowsy zodiac]

super unlikely

yes

[desert gulch]

Basically it's like a 1% chance or less it happens, and if it does, just return the motherboard, it's easy

[drowsy zodiac]

okay

[strong raft]

yes. ADL has been out quite a while, including the "2nd" die variant. pcpartpicker is just randomly has the bios warning on some mobos. Even many AMD models have that.

[desert gulch]

MSI's original bios for the pro a only supported the real 12400(f)

It's not a random warning

[strong raft]

re-read what i typed, not random warning. it's randomly on some mobos. Also a chance of getting the "old" die too, but who knows.

[desert gulch]

Ask manirelli himself if you want, he can confirm

PC part picker warnings like that are put in by the actual staff, so for there to be a warning, there has to be something known about it like the pro a, for example

[drowsy zodiac]

yeah that asus prime mobo will work

perfect

[desert gulch]

It is a worse board but whatever

[drowsy zodiac]

will it last?

[strong raft]

was matx a requirement?

[mossy venture]

its fine for a 12400f

just a worse board

[drowsy zodiac]

okok what’s different with it?

[mossy venture]

worse vrms, worse io

[drowsy zodiac]

i got lots i need to learn lol

i’m getting the i5 12400f and rtx 2060

[mossy venture]

i still do not recommend 2060

[drowsy zodiac]

you recommended the radeon one correct?

[mossy venture]

mm

[strong raft]

btw there is a chance you get a mobo that already has a new enough bios. Can also easily check a cpu box to see what "stepping" aka die it is. I found this:
-- worse case, maybe end up returning a mobo once. -- Bit of a funny/dumb move on Intel's part tbh considering quite a few mobos don't have "flashback" (cpu-less bios updating).

[drowsy zodiac]

i think ima just get the asus prime mobo

[undone saddle]

What is a good power supply that fits in lian li air mini.. 1000w

[strong raft]

G6 evga, etc, etc.

[frigid night]

You're putting a 6950xt and 12900k in the lian li mini?

[undone saddle]

This?

[undone saddle]

I7 12700 and 3080ti in lian li air mini

[frigid night]

Oh ok

You aren't going with the 12900k and 6950xt now?

[undone saddle]

It was recommended by@mossy venture

[undone saddle]

Was never going for that.... already ordered the 3080ti so far lol

12900k overkill for me

[frigid night]

Oh. I see. I thought that is why you were making that list.

[frigid night]

NVM. I'm a mong. I'm thinking of wrong person. My bad.

[undone saddle]

No issues

Im Nvidia for life

[undone saddle]

Go for this?

Does it have everything i need like all the cables and stuff......never done this before lol

Going for 1000 because wont change for atleast 5 years

[frigid night]

I went for 1kw as well, but it was a really good price.

That g6 you linked is the one yes. It should include all cables you need.

[undone saddle]

This one is 215$

Cool

[frigid night]

How many pins is your card?

[undone saddle]

Arent all 3 pins?

[frigid night]

I got my a tier 1kw for $110

[undone saddle]

Damn nice

[frigid night]

Not sure tbh

I think there might be 1 or two that are 2.

I could he very wrong though.

[undone saddle]

2 pins

Weird most i have seen on youtube vids 3 pins

[frigid night]

Looks like it comes with 2 single pcie and 3 daisy chain pcie.

So you are good to go.

[undone saddle]

Nice

I wonder in windows what transfer speed u guys getting if u tranfer like 100gb files from one nvme to another

Im getting like 80 to 100mb on my laptop i hate it lol

[frigid night]

I think it depends on the speeds of each nvme. I'd assume as fast as whichever has the lowest value.

[undone saddle]

Like that advertised 3500mb is real in windows?

Or it has some bottlenecks

[frigid night]

I'd do a crystaldiskmark to bench your nvme. That'll tell you your actual speed.

[frigid night]

As far as bottleneck.. id assume it depends on the connection you are using between the nvmes

[undone saddle]

Like both on same pc

[frigid night]

Then its probably going to be either the read speed of the nvme the data is coming from or the write speed of the nvme the data is going to.. whichever is lower.

[undone saddle]

This mobo has 4 m.2 i plan to use all with time

[frigid night]

Same. I currently have a 1tb and 2tb.

[undone saddle]

Can u do quick test? Im just curious of speeds

Like real life test not benchmark

[frigid night]

The benchmark is the way to find your speeds.

[strong raft]

C drive once it gets a bit full might not hit advertised speeds btw. crystal disk mark

[frigid night]

You are wanting to transfer a large amount of data. That is going to use your ssd to its fullest. So the benchmark will be the most accurate way to show you speed aside from actually transferring the data.

[undone saddle]

Im going for 980 pro 2tb as c drive and 970 evo on others

[undone saddle]

I should check the laptop nvme advertised speeds because i sure never get above 100mb lol

[frigid night]

Idk anything about laptops.

[strong raft]

it's about what you're moving. My sn550 still gets pretty much it's advertised 1600MB/s or w/e it is, on CDM.

[undone saddle]

Thats pretty good.... 16x faster

[weary galleon]

even my sata ssds get like 550

[strong raft]

sequential is overall not a big deal anyways, and only a single really big file would usually get near that number. oh plus, interacting w/ a slower drive would effect the whole deal haha

[frigid night]

Is it just me or.. did #build-pics used to be under this channel?

My muscle memory keeps having me tap on pics instead of chat.

Maybe I'm just trippin.

[undone saddle]

Here transferring from 980 to 970 i found on youtube not bad

[frigid night]

Just like gpu/cpu/ram, your nvme may not perform the same as others. It could perform better than its rating, or it could perform worse than its rating. Sometimes much worse.

[undone saddle]

Yeah it supposed to be 5000+

But good enough

[frigid night]

How come you are so resistant on just benching your nvme to find your actual speed?

[undone saddle]

I bet if he benched it he would get close to that 5000 write and 7000 read as advertised since usually actually transferring a file gets lower and fluctuates if im not wrong

[frigid night]

So the 980 is the E drive?

[undone saddle]

980 is c and 970 is e.....i think

Yes it is 970 is E

[frigid night]

I see. So he's transferring from 970 to 980

[undone saddle]

Yup

[frigid night]

Alright. Was just making sure because you said other way around :D

[undone saddle]

My bad

Not many 280 aio for lga 1700 on newegg or amazon

[frigid night]

Not really any that are worth beyond LFII and Galahad.

I'm sure there are a couple more. But even 360 variants, there are only a handful of actual good performing aios.

At least ones that don't cost you an arm and a leg for the performance.

[undone saddle]

Cant find one with lga 1700 included brackets sayiing contact...etc for supply

Dont want the hassle

[stoic island]

you could just buy the bracket at the same time if you really want to

[frigid night]

LFII and galahad should come with the lga1700 bracket

[undone saddle]

Changwd my mind about the small case going for lian li O11 Dynamic evo so 360 aio
And it looks better anyway

[fossil cedar]

Well you could have went ddr4 but you said you wanted the absolute best no matter the price and they're available at Amazon just 5$ more

[undone saddle]

Picture 3 fans text says dual lol

[fossil cedar]

Lol

It's a typo 360mm =) 3x120 fans

[potent portal]

They copy paste all those listings, a couple words might not get changed that should here and there

[little osprey]

Where can I get a prebuilt PC with an i7 10700k, and 16GB ram?

[still roost]

Lechonky#7240 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[little osprey]

And the lowest GPU.

[stoic island]

any particular reason?

requirements are quite confusing

and budget?

[little osprey]

Mainly just so I can swap out the GPU for a 3070 than I have coming in the mail.

[little osprey]

Or is there a website where I can somewhat choose out parts?

[stoic island]

If you have money to splurge, xotic

others depend

And I'd reccomend just getting like a 12600k, it'll do better and often cheaper

[stoic island]

tbh, at this point, it's a lot more economical to just build yourself now

Most good value prebuilts are good value because of their GPU, and don't come with lower specced GPU options, and most higher customizability prebuilts cost a lot more

[undone saddle]

Only bought aio , 7 fans and 3080 ti and already down $1630

[little osprey]

I already have a pc built but my cable management is pretty bad, and now I’m looking at a closed loop upgrade if I get a semi replacement.

[undone saddle]

Orign pc configurator pretty cool and professional

[stoic island]

cable management doesn't matter

0 performance impact :p

[undone saddle]

True that

Just hide them in the back

[frigid night]

Especially at this time when nvidia is trying to get rid of their high end stock

[frank stirrup]

U bought wayy too spensive aio and fans

[undone saddle]

Lian li

[fossil cedar]

So 150 + 100 + 30 + 800 = 1.2k

Wait

[undone saddle]

The 3080ti is 1200

[fossil cedar]

You paid how much for a 3080 ti then

Bro

Return

Return

You got scammed

[undone saddle]

The 3080 is 1000

[fossil cedar]

3080 12gb is 800

[frigid night]

He had to pay VAT

[undone saddle]

Saudi arabia

[fossil cedar]

Ahh

[undone saddle]

Everything shipped here expensive

[fossil cedar]

But still get a 3080 12gb

[undone saddle]

Lol

[fossil cedar]

Everyone pays vat bro it's sales tax

[undone saddle]

The gpu at the stores here is like almost double that

[fossil cedar]

Seriously you severally overpaid

[undone saddle]

Cheapest 3080 i found was 1000

[fossil cedar]

Amazon Germany?

[undone saddle]

So $200 extra for 5% extra performance sounded great to me lmao

Should have stuck with the 3080 to be honest

[undone saddle]

No saudi amazon but this package international

[fossil cedar]

Where you using Amazon Germany? And can you cancel/return?

Ah okay

So Amazon.sa?

[undone saddle]

Yeah

[fossil cedar]

@undone saddle what price was the 3080 ti in SR

[undone saddle]

4517

Wish we just had something like micro center

Getting tech would be much easier

[frigid night]

I thought VAT was increased tax for shipping out of country.

[frigid night]

Ok i meant customs.

Don't yell at me

[strong raft]

Customs fees generally when it arrives afaik, but idk tbh.

[frigid night]

Idk then. It says vat in his screenshots

[undone saddle]

Yeah its more expensive to ship here

I remember ordering nas from newegg and vat costed as much as the nas lol

Fun times

[fossil cedar]

https://www.newegg.com/global/sa-en/asus-geforce-rtx-3080-tuf-rtx3080-12g-gaming/p/N82E16814126563

[frigid night]

🤢 🤮

[undone saddle]

Yeah 3080 1k usd

[fossil cedar]

That's 3674 tho?

[undone saddle]

Ti 1200

[fossil cedar]

Not worth tbh

[undone saddle]

Yup

[fossil cedar]

Ah right

Yeah if you can cancel and get that instead

[undone saddle]

I hate canceling process i bet they will take 20 days to return money

So sticking with it

[frigid night]

Yeah and then he gets a card with same issues myself any many others have with that card

[undone saddle]

Ur 3080 has issues?

[frigid night]

That model that Pato linked? Yeah. Myself and many others have issues with the fan curves. Like.. it doesn't like to work right and overrides custom fan curve software.

Basically, just does whatever it wants to.

[undone saddle]

What about the one i got

[frigid night]

Idk about the TI

[undone saddle]

All asus tuf like that?

[frigid night]

I can't speak for any of the other models sorry

[strong raft]

Ti has a different vbios.

[undone saddle]

Cool

[undone saddle]

[undone saddle]

Awesome build

[frigid night]

Yeah. Thats sick as heck.

[undone saddle]

I hope my build becomes as good looking as these u see online

Thats beautiful

[frigid night]

That one would be easier to achieve. Probably much cheaper as well.

[undone saddle]

Lian li cases are the best looking imo

[undone saddle]

True

[frigid night]

I love the glass wrap around, but I just can't get over no front fans.

[undone saddle]

The lian li evo has no front fans either i think

[frigid night]

Although the airflow in that case looks like it's setup pretty good. 3 intake from bottom and then 3 exhaust at top with 3 exhaust through rad on side.

[cyan ravine]

Ooo a heatkiller block

But maximus, maximum sadgeness

[frigid night]

So good fresh cool air going straight to gpu with the cpu heat being vented through the side.

[undone saddle]

So side and and bottom are intakes?

[empty pollen]

Yes

[undone saddle]

Or how exactly the best configuration

And id add one exhaust in the back inatead of that screen

[empty pollen]

Bottom n side intake, back an top exhaust

Best config

On that one

[undone saddle]

Cool thanks

[undone saddle]

Is it always good to enable XMP in bios

[obsidian wigeon]

yes

[undone saddle]

I see some games got almost +25% fps with XMP enabled

Pretty cool

[frigid night]

Wildlands must not care about ram lol

[undone saddle]

Wait how did you know my youtube user lol

What sorcery are you using

Wait just noticed last game name

Lmao

[frigid night]

Lol.

You were trippin hard there for a sec 😆

[cyan ravine]

Self dox moment

[undone saddle]

[undone saddle]

I was looking all over that screenshot and looked at the file name

Lol

I was like how???

[undone saddle]

What should be the price of this

[cyan ravine]

A lot in ddr4 terms, mid in g.skill terms.
It's also meh JJR iirc

So not the b die you might think it'll be

[undone saddle]

Its $415 and meh? Damn

[cyan ravine]

Mhm

Welcome to g.skill lol

[undone saddle]

Lol

But in general its above mid?

I feel like 400 is max id pay for ram

[cyan ravine]

It's supposed to be like, ok for OC but not amazing like say DJR iirc (I don't remember ddr4 hynix well)

But for 400 I wouldn't

There's better kits you can get

[undone saddle]

Around same budget?

[cyan ravine]

Likely less

G.skill charges a sizeable premium for trident sticks

You could prolly even find the ripjaws version of that at a more reasonable price

Say some 260-ish

Why do you want 64gb anyway?

[undone saddle]

Because i have 32 now and almost fully using it most the time

[cyan ravine]

2x16gb?

[undone saddle]

Yeah laptop

[cyan ravine]

Eh?

Tridentz don't fit in a laptop

[undone saddle]

These rams im buying for new build

[cyan ravine]

Oh ok

Well for 64gb shopping, don't go premium. IMC's really struggle with higher speeds

Stick to a reasonable budget

[undone saddle]

Will see if I find better options

[cyan ravine]

Like 4 sticks of ballistix 3200 is about as high as I'd go for premium

[undone saddle]

Ppl say corsair sucks

[cyan ravine]

Yes

They mix chips in kits so xmp is not guaranteed

[undone saddle]

Damn

Good i didnt get corsair

[cyan ravine]

"Hand-picked IC's" is their meme marketing

[undone saddle]

[cyan ravine]

some corsair is ok. But most of their ddr4 actually just sucks

DDR5 they've been better so far

[undone saddle]

133$ cheaper because no rgb? Lol

[cyan ravine]

Yes

My estimate was pretty spot-on lol

[undone saddle]

Lol

Im guessing this marketing bs?

[cyan ravine]

Yes

QVL these days is a bit of a meme

[undone saddle]

This was suggested by someone here before I buy what do you guys think... need the 12th gen , 4 m.2

[undone saddle]

$330

[cyan ravine]

Are you overclocking?

Also, overclocking with 64gb?

[undone saddle]

No just XMP

[cyan ravine]

Don't need a z board then

Try b660m Pro-A

And get a non-K intel chip

[undone saddle]

I like the i7 12700k price to performance

[cyan ravine]

12700F is exactly the same until the 12700K is overclocked

You'll be sinking money into a K chip and not use the K features lol

That's the same as buying a 12700 for more than it's worth

[fossil cedar]

And into an expensive z board for no reason

[undone saddle]

107$ difference not much tho

[cyan ravine]

That's a lot of money lol

[undone saddle]

Between f and k

[cyan ravine]

Ye for basically the same thing if no overclocking

[fossil cedar]

More than that and it's all wasted, 60$ on the cpu, 70$ on the mobo so 130$ for nothing

[undone saddle]

Maybe in the future i will overclock

[cyan ravine]

Still wouldn't go $330 on a z690 at that point

There's cheaper options

Cheaper and better performance

[undone saddle]

Only difference is overclocking capabilities?

[cyan ravine]

Mhm

Maybe a bit worse vrm but still plenty for 12700F

You can then put that money in your budget for other things

Like a better ssd, or a nicer case

Meaningful things

Not to mention the cpu cooler doesn't need to be anywhere near as overkill on the non-K

So again, even more money saved lol

[undone saddle]

It only has 2 m.2..... the b660m

[cyan ravine]

Stick the $200 you saved into a better monitor***

[cyan ravine]

Try non-m

So just b660-a

[undone saddle]

Already bought the cooler

[cyan ravine]

Omg what a typo

[undone saddle]

And gpu

[undone saddle]

[cyan ravine]

Ye I'd say better gpu but I seen the ti

[undone saddle]

Also no need monitor

[cyan ravine]

Which one?

[undone saddle]

The pc will be connected to my tv all the time..... i know dont laugh

[cyan ravine]

No using it with a tv is fine

[undone saddle]

Lian li 360

[cyan ravine]

Galahad good

Unifans bleh

But galahad good

Be more than enough for a 12700f

[undone saddle]

Yeah for sure

Guess will delay the mobo and cpu until i check if they are available here and prices

[cyan ravine]

If you wanted lian li fans their non unifans are actually lowkey good

If I can offer that suggestion

ST120's, those are the ones I'm thinking of

[undone saddle]

The new ones pretty good. Already bought them

[cyan ravine]

New ones? SL120's aren't new

If you were looking for the Infinity mirror ones I don't think those are it

[undone saddle]

Oh damn thought these were the infinity ones lol

[cyan ravine]

Old

[undone saddle]

Oh well guess they will do

[cyan ravine]

New

Still wouldn't really buy them, they use tiny fans with big borders so they don't pull a lot of air

[undone saddle]

Lian Li AL120-3 Triple Pack FAN Black https://amzn.eu/d/jcalCLj

[fossil cedar]

Bro i wouldn't even pay that much for a 12900ks motherboard