building-and-recc-chat

[cyan ravine]

Monitor isn't too much for it. Performance as good as a 3060 gpu

[stoic island]

ssd a bit smol though

[cyan ravine]

6 core cpu

Ye but he's only playing cod lol

[stoic island]

cod

I don't think that'll fit with windows lol

[drowsy zodiac]

well like cod gta fortnite

[stoic island]

isn't cod like 300gb now

[cyan ravine]

Ahhhh

[drowsy zodiac]

no

i feel like these are really powerful lol

[cyan ravine]

Ok can you stretch this budget a little more

Cos I agree with 2222, 512gb is a bit small

[stoic island]

MW is 246gb

and cold war is even more

another 82gb

anyways

[drowsy zodiac]

my buddy thinks that these pc you guys are building are way to powerful then what i wanna do lol

[cyan ravine]

Imo that's fine

[stoic island]

sounds like a good thing to me

[cyan ravine]

Inb4 new game

[drowsy zodiac]

he says i need a 3050

[cyan ravine]

And you need more power

[drowsy zodiac]

idk why

[cyan ravine]

Nooooo

He doesn't understand radeon

[drowsy zodiac]

here build me your final one 1300$

[stoic island]

send them this

[cyan ravine]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/WJZYmr final list

6600 is similar price and wayyyy faster

[drowsy zodiac]

that’s final or no

[cyan ravine]

Is final

I ditched the cooler cos you can use the stock cooler on a 12400F (it gets a bit loud tho)

[stoic island]

if budget could be stretched I'd do some changes though

[cyan ravine]

But you got 1tb now

[drowsy zodiac]

stretched how much?

[cyan ravine]

$70

Lol

[drowsy zodiac]

let’s do it

[cyan ravine]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/mDF2W4

If you want more RGB it'll be another $40 but you could also upgrade gpu at that point

[stoic island]

I would change the card to a pulse though, don't really trust how that one looks

pylon is 8cad more, I'd grab a pylon 650w personally

(we have reviews of the pulse 6600, don't see any of the hellhound)

[cyan ravine]

Hellhound just goes cheap on the LED's

Tom's hardware didn't seem to mind the 6650 variant

[stoic island]

this heatsink looks less capable

than this

thicker heatsink on the pulse from images

[unborn mesa]

i changed the pcpp site to US and it dropped to 1046 usd

[stoic island]

just what I'd do

[cyan ravine]

The hellhound is heavier tho

[unborn mesa]

got me the budget pc list i was about to ask for

[cyan ravine]

[stoic island]

longer card for whatever reason

[cyan ravine]

Lol np

[stoic island]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[cyan ravine]

I'd say the hellhound is fine

It's obviously cheap but I'm not seeing it perform poorly

[stoic island]

I like data

no data for hellhound 6600, yes data for pulse 6600

[cyan ravine]

Data for 6650 hellhound tho

[drowsy zodiac]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QkPrRv

my buddy sent me this

what about that?

[stoic island]

worse

[desert gulch]

beyond bad value

[stoic island]

also that's usd

not cad

[desert gulch]

thats like terrible

[cyan ravine]

Wtf a z690 a strix

[stoic island]

z690a strix for a 12100 lmfao

[cyan ravine]

Bro telling you to spend more on the motherboard than the cpu

[stoic island]

320$ board for 120$ cpu

[cyan ravine]

[desert gulch]

tfw your board is only $10 cheaper than your gpu

[cyan ravine]

Omg and it's usd

It costs more

[lilac ember]

Gigabyte X570 AORUS XTREME EATX AM4 Motherboard
or Asus ROG Crosshair VIII Hero (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard

[drowsy zodiac]

no good?

[desert gulch]

neither

both are trash value

[lilac ember]

why

[stoic island]

• More expensive
• Performs worse
• Wrong currency

[desert gulch]

do you even need a x570?

[stoic island]

For what CPU and for doing what

[cyan ravine]

[lilac ember]

Gaming Streming editing

[cyan ravine]

Swimming

[desert gulch]

😳

[cyan ravine]

[stoic island]

dont take your pc swimming

it doesn't go well

[desert gulch]

what cpu and gpu?

cause it sounds like a half decent b550 will easily suit your needs tbh

[lilac ember]

3080 it

[cyan ravine]

Cpu?

[lilac ember]

Show me what good

[lilac ember]

3800x

[desert gulch]

mr2 knows whats up, im busy with mc

[lilac ember]

Think about upgrading

[cyan ravine]

Yeah definitely b550

[stoic island]

what makes sense:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B089CZSQB4

if you want a fancier board:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B089CWDHFZ

(not reccomended) fanciest board
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09BGWJD3C

all of them cheaper than previous options and works just fine

[stoic island]

also wait, 3800x, not 5800x?

[cyan ravine]

Yep

[lilac ember]

@cyan ravine may i add you

[cyan ravine]

Also btw aorus pro v2 is 175 on amazon

[stoic island]

which one

[cyan ravine]

B550

https://a.co/d/0349ooZ

[desert gulch]

shows 240 for me

[lilac ember]

i like asus

[cyan ravine]

O.o

My amazon acting up again

[desert gulch]

sussus amogus

[stoic island]

I don't like asus :p

[cyan ravine]

A sus

[lilac ember]

why

[stoic island]

expensive wacky and doesn't perform any better

[desert gulch]

use the hero incident to completely crap on asus and slander them

[stoic island]

lmao

what even was it

a sideways capacitor that blew up?

[desert gulch]

backwards cap on z690 hero

[stoic island]

or was it upside down

[stoic island]

iirc asus didn't even know when they got the rma requests and then BZ took a look at the images and said the cap was backwards lol

asus should hire bz
https://youtu.be/2VkO4wiEAY4

[potent portal]

I think he's more valuable to them as an independent third party tester, they send him so much stuff

[lilac ember]

Is that out

[potent portal]

As in fixed? Yes

[stoic island]

thought bz had to buy most of his hardware

[potent portal]

Most but I think it was Asus that sent him tons of boards

[stoic island]

maybe not sent by asus

but dunno

[cyan ravine]

He gets sent stuff by gigabyte and msi

But the other brands he buys iirc

Like his apex is a post release y0 and he hates it

[stoic island]

pretty sure he bought the msi z690-a he tested on

but dunno

[potent portal]

That was it, gigabyte were the ones sending him half their lineup

[cyan ravine]

He thanks msi for providing stuff tho

Idk but I figured they also like him

[stoic island]

probably 50/50

he buys some he gets sent some

thought he bought the msi 3060ti he tested

[potent portal]

I remember him mentioning at one point "sorry for all the gigabyte content, they sent a bunch of stuff to me without saying why" lol

[stoic island]

lol

[cyan ravine]

Gigabyte def

He got his hynix sticks from gigabyte as review samples

[lilac ember]

What I should buy

[stoic island]

need wifi or no

[lilac ember]

No

i like Gigabyte X570 AORUS XTREME EATX AM4 Motherboard

[stoic island]

this should be more than enough
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B089CWDHFZ

[lilac ember]

is rgb

[cyan ravine]

It is rgb

[lilac ember]

It Support 128 ram

[cyan ravine]

Yes

[lilac ember]

Between me and you what’s wrong with the motherboard I picked out

[stoic island]

expensive for no reason

eATX also doesn't always fit

[potent portal]

It's just a bunch of extra features no one will use except extreme overclockers

[lilac ember]

I have 7000d it Fit in look up

[cyan ravine]

Fancy flair and fancy features for basically 0 benefit to the normal user

A dark hero could do the same no problem, similarly a vision D could too

But for the normal user, it's ridiculous overkill

A regular b550 will give you 99% of a good AMD motherboard without needless spending

As long as it's not a tire fire like biostar or some asrocks

To actually make motherboards north of some 200usd worth it on desktop ryzen you need to really know how to use it properly imo

And we're talking a 3800X here so it's extreme overkill for the situation, but even regular B550's still are just fine with 5950X's and 5800X3D's

[lilac ember]

3800x cpu i have

[cyan ravine]

I know, I wrote that lol

It's overkill on top of overkill for that cpu

Or rather, that board is overkill for anything really

[lilac ember]

The reason I want the gigabyte I need 2 of usb 3.0

[cyan ravine]

For?

[lilac ember]

2

[cyan ravine]

Yes but is this for the case or something

You're talking internal 3.0 plugs yes?

[lilac ember]

yes

do you see it

[cyan ravine]

Not sure what I'm looking for lol

I see maybe 1 usb 3.0 cable header

[lilac ember]

There are two in the case

One was plugged in

[stoic island]

Most boards have that

Are you talking about 3.2 gen 2 headers for USB-c?

[lilac ember]

Yes

Sorry about the words

[stoic island]

Most boards like the tomahawk have a gen 2 header and a normal 3.0 header

Case USB usually only has a single usb-c port and the rest just USB 3.0 type a

[little osprey]

Quick question here

what's the best GPU under 200$

My friend is building a computer and doesn't want to spend too much more over 500$ CAD total

[lilac ember]

You not find gpu for 200 gpu is 900 and up

[little osprey]

Where do you live?

i got a 950 for 50$

[lilac ember]

Gat 3050

[little osprey]

Not around the price range he's looking for

[lilac ember]

https://amzn.to/3owCkVP

https://amzn.to/3OK6G1A

Those are the cheapest graphics card right now

[mossy venture]

Lolno

[cyan ravine]

500 CAD total is hard

I think sub 200 will be 16 series or second hand 10 series

[cyan ravine]

We never suggest 3050 around here because it's almost always poor value

[mossy venture]

1660, 1660s, 1060 6gb, 1070, if you're lucky 1080

5600xt, 6600 if you're lucky

All of these used

[little osprey]

gotcha

[frigid night]

I've had pretty good times with a 1650 Super

[cyan ravine]

Yea my 1650's been not bad. I wouldn't buy a 1650 now tho

[lilac ember]

i trying halp

[cyan ravine]

I get that, it's just so you know

If you're ever thinking 3050, think RX 6600

It runs a lot faster graphics for a similar price

[frigid night]

isn't it like your bedtime or something? 😛

[cyan ravine]

Lunch

[frigid night]

ooo what ya eatin

nvm, probably kangaroo

[cyan ravine]

Going out for some italian

Oi

🔪

[frigid night]

italian sounds yumm

[weary galleon]

For 200 usd you're probably looking at a used 2060

Might be more like 220 though

could also do a used 1080

[frigid night]

but rtx

[weary galleon]

Unless the GPU is needed right now I would wait and see if you can find a 2060 for 200

[cyan ravine]

Rtx voice and nvenc pretty nice ngl

[weary galleon]

Though idk if you could get a matching CPU plus everything else for only $300

Probably if you went used

[cyan ravine]

Optiplex + psu time

[weary galleon]

3600 or 10400 for 100, motherboard 80, psu 50, ram 40, case 50, cooler 30
300 total

Seems doable

Unless monitor is part of the $500 budget

[cyan ravine]

Canadian btw

[dark nova]

@mossy venture the 3070 arrived

[cyan ravine]

Ooo a sus

[mossy venture]

Pog

[stray panther]

So after puttying around the internet I see a lot of people saying not to put the motherboard in until you add a bunch of stuff to it?

If so is there an order to it?

Completely new

Again will cry

[forest briar]

doesn't really matter much

just easier to work on when it's out of the case

[stray panther]

Ok

[frank stirrup]

150 ish

Cpu bound i am

[lilac ember]

@cyan ravine are. You good with Computer

My friend need halp

Gta 5 on pc is not working

[cyan ravine]

Hmmm

You coukd try #windows-ios

Or even #general-chat maybe

I have GTA5 on xbox so I don't know if I'll be a lot of help tbh

[lilac ember]

He on pc

[cyan ravine]

Ye

Don't worry, I think there will be at least a couple lurkers around here that will have the game and might know what to do

[lilac ember]

Can I make Group chat you and He

[cyan ravine]

Eh I'm going out to lunch

[dark nova]

I haven’t even eyeballed it to see if it’ll fit

Which I mean by the size specs it SHOULD

[alpine viper]

hey guys, i was wondering if it was possible to transfer an existing build of windows to another system just by transplanting the ssd into the new system. would it be possible? if it is not, how can i transfer the user files from the ssd into the new nvme's in the new system and then redownload windows onto the old ssd again with a new key

[obsidian wigeon]

you can

but drivers will have problems

it's best to just do a clean install

[drowsy zodiac]

why does my motherboard im going to order say i need a LGA1700 mounting bracket ?

[obsidian wigeon]

Which cooler?

[drowsy zodiac]

intel stock one

[jagged ember]

kek

[obsidian wigeon]

Nope

It doesn't need any

[drowsy zodiac]

for the i3 12100

[jagged ember]

if the stock cooler needed a mounting bracket

intel would include it

[obsidian wigeon]

Just mount it and you're good

[jagged ember]

but you won't need it

[obsidian wigeon]

ye

[drowsy zodiac]

ok bet

thanks

that’s what it says

[obsidian wigeon]

that board for 12100f is way too much money

you can get much cheaper boards

[drowsy zodiac]

i plan to find a better deal for it tbh

this is just to get a base idea

[obsidian wigeon]

hm okay

[drowsy zodiac]

first time going to build

[obsidian wigeon]

for stock coolers you won't need any brackets

[drowsy zodiac]

perfect what if i got a different cooler?

[obsidian wigeon]

if you cut the mobo cost down, 12400f will be possible

well, then that depends on the cooler

[drowsy zodiac]

hold on

[obsidian wigeon]

if it says lga 1700 support

then it will have brackets

[drowsy zodiac]

Deepcool GAMMAXX 400 V2 64.5 CFM CPU Cooler

what about that

[obsidian wigeon]

yeah that'll work

[drowsy zodiac]

okok

[obsidian wigeon]

it comes with bracket

[drowsy zodiac]

perfect thank you!

[mossy venture]

I would not spend more on a board than the cpu costs

Try to find a much better deal on that plox

[obsidian wigeon]

^

b660m-g is decent and cheap

but if you want wifi

there's msi a-pro

[drowsy zodiac]

i can get the board 160 and the cpu 130

but would a 1660 super and a i3 12100f work good together

[obsidian wigeon]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6K8Fd9

can still do 12400f imo

better that way

all on newegg

[drowsy zodiac]

canada

[obsidian wigeon]

oh canada

it was cad?

[drowsy zodiac]

yes

[obsidian wigeon]

lemme try again then

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/YxnmDq

not from newegg cause pcpp just gets the cheapest deals

[drowsy zodiac]

heard bad things about vuugo

so prefer newegg

[obsidian wigeon]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/zRhQcb

[drowsy zodiac]

would that board be better?

[obsidian wigeon]

if you want

this is it

well, the board is decent

and is better deal, so yes

[drowsy zodiac]

will it break? like good review

[obsidian wigeon]

no

it won't

[drowsy zodiac]

ok good

[cyan ravine]

Pato found a gigabyte AX earlier for a bit less than the A-pro

On ca pcpp

[obsidian wigeon]

oh nice

i can't find it tho lol

[cyan ravine]

Yeah look for that one cos it's plenty for a 12100

Maybe too much actually

[drowsy zodiac]

don’t understand lol

i just want something light

[cyan ravine]

Remember that list we helped you with earlier? It had that board in it

[drowsy zodiac]

yes to extreme for what i need lol

[cyan ravine]

Hey it'll still be good in 2 years 👌

[drowsy zodiac]

i’m doing light stuff

understandable

i3 won’t be

?

[cyan ravine]

Just talking about the motherboard, not the cpu

Ur good lol

[drowsy zodiac]

oh motherboard won’t be no more

? @cyan ravine

will i3 12100f and 1660 super run gta,coldwar,fortnite 60+?

[analog pulsar]

Well if I accept he "could" scam me on PayPal and then I would of just traded a 3080 for 6600 💀

[mossy venture]

Yes

Medium settings in cold war I'd guess

[drowsy zodiac]

bet

will a 600w psu be good for that

[mossy venture]

Depends on model

There's a tier list pinned in #cases-psu-and-cooling

Get anything from the A or B tier section

Check evga GT, asus tuf, bitfenix, cxf, rm/rmx

[weary galleon]

Even c tbh

Though if budget allows or there's a decent sale go for B

You probably don't need 600w but it leaves room for overclocking or a part upgrade in the future

[mossy venture]

There's some pretty bad C tiers

Also some bad B tiers, like the GA

[weary galleon]

It's not a super expensive nor high power draw system which is why I would say c or b

[weary galleon]

Probably mostly high settings unless in ground war or warzone

Cod has decent optimization

[mossy venture]

You save maybe $5-10 by going c over b tier most time

Not worth at all with the potential issues

[weary galleon]

Yeah probably go b then

[mossy venture]

Please no

One minute

[drowsy zodiac]

ok

[mossy venture]

This would be fine https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/RkjBD3/asus-tuf-gaming-b-550-w-80-bronze-certified-atx-power-supply-tuf-gaming-550b

Oh wait that's vuugo

There's this, Canada computers
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/QRQfrH/corsair-cxf-650-w-80-bronze-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-cp-9020226-na

[drowsy zodiac]

that’s good?

[still roost]

TheTrueBacca#2995 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[mossy venture]

What

What word

[desert gulch]

The cxf is great

[drowsy zodiac]

i keep reading bad reviews about every psu

it’s annoying

[still roost]

TheTrueBacca#2995 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

TheTrueBacca#2995 has been kicked

Reason: Too many infractions

[drowsy zodiac]

oh

dann

damn

[mossy venture]

Bruh

[desert gulch]

There literally can't be a bad review for cxf other than it used to be expensive or a random defect

[weary galleon]

70 for full modular, white, rgb? dang

[mossy venture]

The link has a slur in it

BRUH

[desert gulch]

Blue name, L

[drowsy zodiac]

lol

[mossy venture]

I mean, nice color

[desert gulch]

Dm?

[drowsy zodiac]

yeah dm

[mossy venture]

Lmao that's hilarious

I was so confused

[weary galleon]

wait is the $70 psu in caad or usd

[desert gulch]

Cad

[weary galleon]

dang

[mossy venture]

Ye

Stevie

[desert gulch]

The cxf is basically selling out remaining stock

[weary galleon]

thats like under 60usd then

[desert gulch]

Corsair sold a little amount of them lmao

[mossy venture]

I got kicked for a link with a slur in it

[desert gulch]

And it's a *gold unit

[weary galleon]

awooga

[desert gulch]

The asterisk is very important xD

[mossy venture]

Do you know a good b550 with bios flash button?

[earnest olive]

msi b550m pro-vdh or b550-a pro are quite good

begs the question of why you're going b550 though

[mossy venture]

Oh pro vdh has bios flash

[mossy venture]

Bc in Canada 12400f is $220, and mag bazooka is $170

And 5600 is $190 and pro vdh wifi is $120

[earnest olive]

hmm

im seeing
C$330 for 5600 + b550m pro-vdh
C$365 for 12400F + prime b660m-a d4

[mossy venture]

Also since you're here sips, do you mind if I ask another question? Completely unrelated

[earnest olive]

tbh at that price id still lean towards the 12400F unless you were planning to use the stock cooler for budget reasons as well

[mossy venture]

Kk, I'll let them know

[earnest olive]

the 5600 isn't a bad choice there though

i just uhhh

usb dropout has been bothering me a lot lately lol

[earnest olive]

go for it

[mossy venture]

Ok, looking for one last opinion before I go through with this trade tommorow: my g15 3050 ti 10500h for an hp touchscreen laptop with an 8250u, 12gb ram, a vega 56 flashed to 64 vbios, a random crap case, and $150

That's a copy paste

So worded oddly at the start

Case is an inwin case with a solid front, top, and sides lmao

I'll prolly give my first shot at modding it and see what happens

[frank scaffold]

Anyone familiar with the Asus ProArt B660 Creator D4 motherboard?

[potent portal]

I used to get that a lot but bios updates have fixed it. Have they not helped you?

[potent portal]

I know that it's decent, features are more focused on content creators but works fine for gamers

[earnest olive]

nope i'm on latest

agesa 1.2.0.3c, 1.2.0.6, 1.2.0.7 all bad

[potent portal]

Trippy. If it's bugging you that much personally I'd RMA

[fossil cedar]

Dam really? I get 180 on 1440 with dlss, i guess that helps in cpu bound?

[frank stirrup]

I dont use any kind of dlss tbf

[potent portal]

It would help if you did, quality mode is pretty close to native

[fossil cedar]

Ik but i didn't think dlss helped in cpu bound

[fossil cedar]

Pretty hard to do with a amd card lol

[potent portal]

Oh right lol

No FSR? RSR time?

[frank stirrup]

Dont see the point because im getting above what my monitor is capable of

And rsr is quite bad

Visually speaking

I mean its a big improvement from the 40-50 i used to get on my rx570

[potent portal]

How's your lows though? I like to keep 1% above refresh rate

At least in competitive games like that

[frank stirrup]

Lows do be a little lower around the 80s

80s fps wise

[frank stirrup]

Im cpu bound because my pc never idles lol im always running something that uses cpu in the background

Idle is like 15-20% cpu util for me on windows

I dont like waiting around at all so i have like 30 apps that start at startup

[fossil cedar]

Removing techi rn

[fossil cedar]

WHAT

[fossil cedar]

Still that's like still 4/5 cores for cpu to run cod

[frank stirrup]

Bro u know how unoptimised some maps are

[fossil cedar]

Ye but like

80

That's insane

[frank stirrup]

1% lows

[fossil cedar]

Rawr wanna know my 1% lows

[frank stirrup]

No

[fossil cedar]

170fps

...

We basically have the same CPU

What are you doing

[frank stirrup]

Running a vm 24/7

[fossil cedar]

Why

[frank stirrup]

Because

[potent portal]

https://tenor.com/view/its-a-technicality-but-it-checks-out-wheres-the-lie-its-true-tho-gif-25068212

[fossil cedar]

Bro

That's literally 1/2 my 1%'s 💀

That's awful for consistency

[frank stirrup]

Ehhhh its fine

What u want from me? Not have a linux vm hosting a few discord and telegram bots so we can listen to good music while gaming and for me to not be able to .spam people on telegram

How am i supposed to survive pato

@fossil cedar HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO DEAL WITH ALL MY GAME LAUNCHER I NEVER EVEN USE TAKING 5 SECONDS MORE TO OPEN WHEN I ACTUALLY USE THEM

AND HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO DEAL WITH OPENING UP CHROME TO CONTINUE WATCHING MY MOVIE IF I CLOSE CHROME WHEN I PLAY GAMES

[fossil cedar]

Oh no

The horror

[potent portal]

Sounds like you need a cheap second PC lol

[fossil cedar]

Well he does be getting a macbook

[potent portal]

I used to host my Plex on my main PC but whenever my wife loaded a video I lost all my fps lol

[frank stirrup]

I doo

I am getting a macbook soon tho as pato said

[brittle tinsel]

My buddy is having issues with his pc. it randomly just black screens, He still has sound but his GPU fans skyrocket then loses picture and once he restarts his pc, it works for ~5 minutes and then repeat

[frank stirrup]

Hmmm

!ddu

[still roost]

DDU (Display Driver Uninstaller) Guide by Pato
https://github.com/NeweggTechie/Graphics-cards/wiki/How-to-use-DDU

[frank stirrup]

Try that

[brittle tinsel]

ill give it a try, he swapped like a year ago from a 1080 to a 1660 ti. it was running solid until after about 3 hours of Sea of Thieves today, then once the first crash, its been non stop since

it sucks him living on the other side of the world. makes it hard to physically help them

[potent portal]

Sometimes drivers get corrupted, especially after a crash

[brittle tinsel]

he hasnt ever had a amd or inel gpu, he shouldnt have to re launch ddu and select those too would he?

[frank stirrup]

Nope

[brittle tinsel]

ok, cause when it wanted to select different options it only let us do nvidia not all. sorry, im new to ddu

[fossil cedar]

I mean no harm pressing the intel or amd parts

[brittle tinsel]

so just finished reinstalling nvidia

[fossil cedar]

Make sure youre in safe more

Ah okay

[brittle tinsel]

the idle temps of the gpu are down 10c

im guessing maybe a corrupt driver?

was 45c now 35c idles after ddu

[high yew]

may be a long shot, can someone link me a cheap but reliable fully mod psu that's in cad currency? i've been browsing memory express, canada computers, etc. can't seem to find one that isn't out of stock

[potent portal]

For what CPU and GPU?

So we know what wattage and tier it needs to be

[high yew]

shoulda added that so sorry. 650w preferably. 3060 12gb and i5-12400f

[brittle tinsel]

idle with fans at 100% its down to 28c as to before ddu 45c was lowest at 100% fan speeds

[frank stirrup]

Why 100% fan speed at anything under 80C

@brittle tinsel

[potent portal]

I've got a few under 90 cad, does that fit the budget?

[high yew]

i have a phanteks amp fully mod 650w 80+ gold for 135.15 but they seem to keep being all over the place with pricing - going up and down

[brittle tinsel]

its not permanent, he was saying the fans might be going bad so I have been manually controlling them to see, honestly I dont see any issues with em.
ill have him game and see if the black screen returns.
also is it normal for pc temps to be ~3 degrees lower if the case glass is off? he put the glass on and the temps went up 2-3 degrees

[high yew]

yes it does, anything under $115 preferably

[frank stirrup]

Normal

But he is gonna kill his fans by running em at 100 for too long

[potent portal]

One of these three will be good, all are A tier https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/products/compare/fndxFT,dJmFf7,Rz2bt6/

[brittle tinsel]

they are back on the auto control. would a corrupt driver really cause overheating issues as soon as it powers on though?

[frank stirrup]

Depends on what gets corrupted

[potent portal]

Whoops cxf is B tier, still good for your uses

[frank stirrup]

How dare you make a mistake

Smh

[high yew]

LMAO

[frank stirrup]

Detechie urself

[potent portal]

I know, mistakes are against my programming. I must self delete.

[frank stirrup]

Yes

Bad ai

[high yew]

i'll probably go with the thermaltake one. extra 100w's and it's $80 on ME which i have some other stuff that i'd want to order from there so bye bye to that $8 shipping cost. hopefully that, case fans, and a cpu will all be over 8 lbs

god forbid i spend $8 on shipping costs

[potent portal]

That works out nicely then

[high yew]

absolutely it does

[frigid night]

Laughs in $35 overnight shipping

[high yew]

since i'm here i got two more questions on my mind

building a pc for my buddy, i think everything on the build list thus far is pretty solid, so i'll send that and can give me critiques as you see them.
(debating on changing ram to none-rgb, but he does want some rgb in there so i thought why not) https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/user/wvillain/saved/#view=zTcPJx

and the other one one would be is buying a used gpu worth it? instead of spending that additional however much on a gpu thats new and taxes and shipping i could save damn near $100 buying a used card. do i just have to look for artifacting or any damage on the card or is it more in-depth than that?

[high yew]

https://tenor.com/view/well-damn-steve-harvey-gif-21775642

[brittle tinsel]

its still doing it 😡

so when he loads a game, before he can get to the main menu of any game, the gpu fans go insane, then it powers off and black screens, after about 5 minutes the gpu comes back on and he has picture again, but once again, if he launches any game, its a never ending loop

[frigid night]

Have you DDU?

[brittle tinsel]

yes

would using MSI afterburner to increase the temp limit be a bad idea?

[frigid night]

Any sort of overclock?

[brittle tinsel]

none

[frigid night]

No. In fact slide it all the way up. Same with the power limit. Leave the voltage slider alone.

[frigid night]

Sorry if you said before.. but what cpu/gpu/psu?

[brittle tinsel]

I7-6700k
1660 TI
700 watt cougar CMX

[brittle tinsel]

after that is applied, should he restart before launching a game, or straight into it?

[fossil cedar]

Antec high current gamer 650w on ca.pcpartpicker.com

Oh nvm falcie already linked

[frigid night]

Should be able to just start right into it.

[fossil cedar]

Which thermaltake one?

[cyan ravine]

[potent portal]

GF1

The good one

[cyan ravine]

[high yew]

middle one

[frigid night]

Lots of malfunctions today. Do you need to run one of Rawrs .bat files?

[potent portal]

Yes
Typing.exe has stopped responding and needs to be restarted

[fossil cedar]

Is the PE one different from gf1 than
(ARGB) or iRGB Plus (Gold/Titanium) tho cuz they're the ones on the list

[brittle tinsel]

after upping both those limits, his gpu fans didnt go hypersonic, and he is still in the game menu, made it farther than before the limit

what does this mean though???

[potent portal]

There's only the A tier ones for GF1, the regular, a-rgb, and i-rgb

[brittle tinsel]

and black screen, temp was only at 60c

[frigid night]

Try underclocking a little.

Or raising voltage, but I don't have exp with that.

[frank stirrup]

Bat file for now :)

[brittle tinsel]

what are we talking? like 10mhz, 100?

[frigid night]

Try core by 50, mem by 150

[frank stirrup]

I am in my free time working on getting a proper application written in C++ with a proper gui going

[frank stirrup]

What are they at rn?

[potent portal]

Try another cable and port

[brittle tinsel]

msi afterburned is "0+" on both

[frigid night]

That too lol

[brittle tinsel]

power cable?

[potent portal]

Video cable

[frank stirrup]

What are they hitting tho?

[frigid night]

Yeah, my thoughts are that it isn't wanting to even run stock clocks.

[brittle tinsel]

1600-2000 core, ~6000 memory

[potent portal]

A loose/bad HDMI can cause intermittent issues like this

[brittle tinsel]

but when not in a game its around 500 core

[potent portal]

And HDMI ports are known to die randomly

[brittle tinsel]

rn its 500 core 800 mem

[frigid night]

Is it intermittent if its every game he tries to run?

[frank stirrup]

Aafik its not intermittent

Seems to happen only under load

[brittle tinsel]

only during load and on all monitors

the gpu seems to just power off for 5-10 then turns itself back on and boom, picture

[frigid night]

Try to lower the clocks and see if it still does it.

[brittle tinsel]

or to speed this process a restart

[potent portal]

That's like the definition of intermittent lol
"occurring at irregular intervals; not continuous or steady."

[frigid night]

It is continuous/steady if its always happening under load.

:)

<3

[brittle tinsel]

it is continuous, any game, will die before he gets to the main menu, he can make it about 2 minutes into the main menu with the temp and power limts maxed

[potent portal]

I'd be lowering power if anything for troubleshooting

[frigid night]

Hm. I have a thought.. do you have another psu to pcie cable you can swap out?

[frigid night]

With the power up it was able to last longer before it black screened though?

[fossil cedar]

Okay was never sure about that tbh

[brittle tinsel]

this really isnt easy being the middle man lmfao. he is east AU, im east US, he can click heads in shooters but not technically inclined, im more advanced than him, but my computers never have issues like this

[frigid night]

Can you invite him to this server? It might be much easier to help him if we can talk to him directly.

[brittle tinsel]

we tried that in previous issues, he just doesnt understand really. im using teamviewer to do as much of this as I can, but im not there to hear the fans like he is saying and when his gpu powers down, it disconnects me from pc access.

[frigid night]

I see. So asking him to swap out a psu cable would be a nogo then.

[brittle tinsel]

did this, it still black screened but the gpu fans didnt go fast af he said

I walked em through it before on facetime, it shouldnt be tooo terrible, they are trying to figure out if they have one laying around

[frigid night]

When did this start happening? Is this a new gpu?

[brittle tinsel]

he has gamed on it for almost a year, the issue started after his entire pc crashed during sea of thieves around 10pm EST. since then he hasnt been able to load games for long

[frigid night]

And you've DDU then installed latest drivers since it crashed and started having issues?

[brittle tinsel]

he said now the fans dont go crazy, but when the gpu goes out, now the pc restarts.

[brittle tinsel]

yes

cleaned everything with DDU even though he has never had amd or intel cards and installed latest driver

we have tried 3 different versions clean installed each and same issue, im starting to think hardware not software

[frigid night]

Ok. Aside from swapping out PSU cable.. have him turn PSU off and unplug pc. Then have him disconnect the display cables. Have him pull GPU out of PC and plug it back in. I just wanna get everything I know of out of the way.

The pc crashing mightve been gpu failing. Mightve been PSU going bad. PSU may be bad now so it can't give enough power to the gpu.

[potent portal]

Also do a single display instead of multiple

[frigid night]

Was there by chance any sort of storm? Maybe an electrical surge?

Idk aus weather.

[brittle tinsel]

clear skies when it occured

[frigid night]

Ok. Is he plugged directly into a wall or surge protector or ups?

Well the PC.. not him

He isn't falcie

[brittle tinsel]

surge protector

[potent portal]

So probably since the weather tries to kill you as much as the wildlife does there

[cyan ravine]

Hey

The animals are more dangerous

[potent portal]

Wasn't half the country on fire recently

[cyan ravine]

2 years ago and yes it was everywhere

[potent portal]

Firestorms are weather too

[cyan ravine]

But also redbacks are under every staircase

So danger lurks everywhere really

[potent portal]

So I've heard

Always checking your boots amiright

[cyan ravine]

[fossil cedar]

Pfft

That's regular

[cyan ravine]

More recently we were underwater

[frigid night]

Cant you guys make up your mind on how you want to blink out of existence?

[cyan ravine]

We're too busy fighting spider bosses to think about it

[frigid night]

Or losing a war to a bird

[potent portal]

https://tenor.com/view/spider-hide-gif-7249034

[frigid night]

I love spooder

[brittle tinsel]

they reseated the gpu but the mobo is displaying dram and cpu error lights

[frigid night]

What mobo do they have?

[brittle tinsel]

msi b150 gaming he said

[potent portal]

6th gen Intel?

[brittle tinsel]

i7 6700k

I just want to game with the lads 😭 we only have 15 more levels to go for kappa and now have faced this issue for over 8 hours now

[frigid night]

So the top 2 LED are lit when he tries to turn pc on? Has he tried turning it on again?

Did he swap out that pcie cable?

[brittle tinsel]

just reseated the gpu and now it wont boot with dram and cpu red lights

it cylces between the 2

[frigid night]

Like blinks between the 2 or every time he boots up it decides to light up one or the other?

[brittle tinsel]

"it blinks on cpu but it sticks to the dram" quoted from him ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[frigid night]

Hm. Blinky, I'm not sure about. Solid means an issue, but I don't see why reseating the gpu would cause a ram issue unless he hit his ram while doing so.

He can try a CMOS clear and see if that'll allow it to boot.

[brittle tinsel]

I have a different MSI, board. but with mine, if it blinks and moves on, its fine, its like actively checking, if the light stays then that is the issue

[frigid night]

Right. I have an MSI board as well. Ok I now understand his description.

[brittle tinsel]

it took me a minute too

[frigid night]

I was thinking it was blinking over and over, but it turns on then off then the dram stays on.

[brittle tinsel]

same, I had him explain more clearly

would you recommend, cmos and reseat ram at the same time or one step at a time to figure this out>?

[cyan ravine]

It keeps reattempting to train memory

That's what that is

Reseat ram might help

[brittle tinsel]

they are reseating the ram now

[cyan ravine]

I've also swapped the order of ram sticks before and that's allowed a board to train vs. stuck on retraining

[brittle tinsel]

if you do that wouldnt you need to clear the cmos

he only has 2 ram slots if that matters

[frigid night]

Nah.

Bios will say "hey, New ram, let's see what it can do"

Whether it was new or old ram

[cyan ravine]

Then it resets itself

Lol

[brittle tinsel]

miss communication on his end, he has 2 sticks and 4 slots. he messed with my head. dual channel ram goes 2 and 4 right? or 1 and 3?

[cyan ravine]

2 and 4 usually

He should try 1 at a time

i.e stick 1 ram stick in, kickstart it, starts fine? Add a second stick? No good? Dead ram or slot

[frigid night]

It was working just fine before he pulled his gpu.. unless.. one of the sticks was going bad and thats the cause of the black screen when gpu goes under load?

[cyan ravine]

Ram is a fickle thing tbh

But if it's post led is flashing red and orange that's often cpu and dram looping through retrain

[brittle tinsel]

what slot should the first stick go in?

[cyan ravine]

Throws gpu out of the picture atm

[frigid night]

2

[frigid night]

Should be 2nd one closest to cpu

[brittle tinsel]

yeah, I know you count from cpu out, but after our confusion on how many slots/sticks he had, it fried me. im going 48 hours with only 4 hours of sleep here, I have life

[brittle tinsel]

first ram stick still gave dram error. im having him swap them out now

[frigid night]

Did he allow it enough time to retrain? It isn't instant

[brittle tinsel]

idk, im make sure he does this time

[frigid night]

Ok.

It might take up to a minute or so.

[cyan ravine]

If it doesn't work on the second stick try slot 4

[undone saddle]

How much do you think this build worth?
Case : Corsair 7000X
Processors : Intel Core i7-12700K 12-Cores 3.6GHz (5GHz TurboBoost)
Motherboard : MSI PRO Z690-A WIFI DDR5
Memory : 32GB CORSAIR DOMINATOR PLATINUM RGB DDR5 (2x16GB) 5200MHz
System Cooling : CORSAIR H150i PRO XT RGB Cooler
Graphics Cards : NVIDIA 10GB GeForce RTX 3080
Operating System Drive : 2TB Samsung 980 PRO
Second Drive : 2TB Samsung 870 QVO Series
Power Supply : Corsair RM1000x Series PLUS GOLD

[brittle tinsel]

2 minutes and still dram error. im having him swap stick 2 to slot 4

[cyan ravine]

Oh wait how much

Nvm

I thiught you asked if worth it

Uhh

[undone saddle]

Why not worth it?

[frigid night]

Put all the parts into pcpartpicker :)

[cyan ravine]

2.5K?

[undone saddle]

Actually will switch to 3080 ti instead since the difference only $266

[cyan ravine]

I thought you meant if you were gonna buy it new

Sorry

[undone saddle]

And 10 fps

[undone saddle]

Yeah was ganna buy it but changed my mind due to extremely high taxes and shipping

[undone saddle]

3.8k

[cyan ravine]

Oh you were looking at buying that?

[undone saddle]

Yeah

[cyan ravine]

Yeah well then I don't think it's worth

You can get similar perf for much cheaper

[undone saddle]

Will see how much it would cost just buying the parts of here

[cyan ravine]

The ssd's, ddr5, aio and case tell me that's not really worth it

[frigid night]

No reason to spend for a case that big unless going custom loop

[undone saddle]

980 pro is pretty good

[cyan ravine]

Can do better with a smaller p31/p41 plus a thick mp33, some decent ddr4, g360a and a lf2 for less

[frigid night]

Its about price to performance ratio

Why spend more for the same performance of something cheaper

[undone saddle]

True

Yeah will drop the ddr5

[frigid night]

Like. Id go a 3080 12gb over a 3080ti

[cyan ravine]

Ironically due to time of sale an rm1000x is prolly priced ok, if not a G6 or RM1000

[undone saddle]

Difference only like 5% in performance it seems

[cyan ravine]

For a good $200 odd price difference ye

[frigid night]

Closer to 3%

[undone saddle]

Yeah got that 1000 for future upgrades

[brittle tinsel]

didnt work, with either config, doubt it helps but I told him to reset the cmos

[frigid night]

That would have been our next step

[cyan ravine]

Maybe psu gone bad?

[frigid night]

Thats my thought.

[brittle tinsel]

the gpu and everything powers on but it doesnt post and sticks on dram error lights and he said it occasionally goes back to cpu and then sticks to dram more.

[undone saddle]

My target is playing 4k 60 fps casual gaming no online stuff

[cyan ravine]

Just retraining

[frigid night]

His pc crashed last night and has been having major issues since when under load. He reseated gpu and now ram is not working.

[cyan ravine]

If it never sees green or white it's not trying gpu

[frigid night]

I just don't wanna suggest him buy a new PSU and that not fix the issue.

[cyan ravine]

Not an easy thing to diagnose

[frigid night]

At this point it could be literally GPU/RAM/PSU/MOBO or any combo of those.

[brittle tinsel]

they had to replace the gpu on this pc before, then his brother had to replace ram in a diff pc, they non stop have pc issues

cleared cmos and seated both sticks in 2 and 4, still stuck on dram error

any chance the lane for 2 and 4 are broke and maybe slot 1 and 3 would work?

[frigid night]

I don't think 1 and 3 work unless ram is in 2 and 4.

Or at least work correctly

[brittle tinsel]

maybe ESD shot the ram?

[cyan ravine]

Eh they could actually

Depends on traces

I'm wondering what mobo and psu is being used here rn

[brittle tinsel]

msi b150 gaming he said
I7-6700k
1660 TI
700 watt cougar CMX

[cyan ravine]

So either c tier or avoid tier

Try slots 1 and 3 and see what happens

If that don't work try reseating all the power cables

After that? Prolly try new parts

Or testing parts in another known good system

[brittle tinsel]

it posted, and detects both sticks, its asking f1 to run setup and f2 continue, which should he do?

[cyan ravine]

F1 to run setup

Ok so vga posted

Sounds like one of the ram traces has died

[brittle tinsel]

just randomly while playing a game?

[undone saddle]

What do you think about LIAN LI O11D MINI-X case

[cyan ravine]

If they've had issues for a while it could be this is it finally croaking

[cyan ravine]

Mini air is nice

[undone saddle]

Will check it out

[brittle tinsel]

once they replaced the gpu the first time it was fine for nearly a year

its still black screening though 😦

[undone saddle]

Cool looks like much better air flow

[brittle tinsel]

so if slots 2 and 4 dont work but 1 and 3 do and still cant handle any load at all.
would a new mobo fix this issue?

[cyan ravine]

Tried ddu?

https://youtu.be/bP-2B14Nckw

There's a good chance windows might also just be screwed after being used for so long with a bad ram trace

[frigid night]

Yes

[fossil cedar]

Dam bro I can't believe you didn't just !ddu

[brittle tinsel]

yeas

im just lost as how ram issues is causing the gpu to act like its overheated

[frigid night]

1 hardware failure can cause other hardware to have issues

They are all connected in some way and if that hardware needs something from another hardware, but can't get it, then it acts up.

[brittle tinsel]

so with slots 2 and 4 not working can we safely safe damaged/faulty mobo?

[cyan ravine]

[cyan ravine]

There could very well be a gpu issue we haven't seen yet but I'd say it's less likely with the ram issue found

[brittle tinsel]

would it be easier to rule out the ram and gpu if they test it on the working pc?

[frigid night]

Yes

[brittle tinsel]

they are asking if we feel it is the mobo, they are afraid they might damage the second pc if they use it as a test bence

[frigid night]

If ram is bad, it won't post so it won't harm anything. If gpu is bad, it'll just do what it did before and black screen under load which won't harm anything else.

[brittle tinsel]

personally, I want to say mobo, but im not very experianced with issues like these

[frigid night]

This is one if the best way to troubleshoot hardware.

[brittle tinsel]

they are more afraid of ESD, bending pins, too much pressure on the board.

they can barely afford a mobo, if the bust the other pc, they can fix em and they said they would just sell both pcs and choose a new hobby

[frigid night]

What pins would they be bending?

[brittle tinsel]

gpu/ram swapping em out on the working pc

would it be a safer option to call a tech that would come to their house?

[frigid night]

If they are attentive, then that shouldn't be an issue.

[frigid night]

Well. Yeah, but that would prob be expensive.

[brittle tinsel]

last time they did that they paid alot just for the guy to leave em in worst shape then that started

[frigid night]

But the techs here are just as if not more knowledgeable as anyone that would get sent to their house.

I mean, if he reseeated his ram and gpu already with no trouble then I don't see the problem

[brittle tinsel]

slots 2 and 4 worked before we had him touch the mobo. I dont know how much ESD they could have had nor how much it would take to damage a mobo ¯_(ツ)_/¯

either way, im headed to bed, im running on fumes here.
I dont want to tag everyone that helped, but ^pink name above that I cant read at all. felix, fal'cie, Pato and risen! thank you all!!! ❤️

[fossil cedar]

Not sure what i did but yw?

[frigid night]

You must now refer to me as "pink name above that is cant read at all"

[frigid night]

You are most welcome.

[fossil cedar]

How are you doing pink name above that is cant read at all

[frigid night]

Ok nvm

That was cringe.

[fossil cedar]

Lol

[oblique sage]

scammers?

[forest briar]

Dang even the NFT knows it’s a scam

[daring edge]

i know it may seem like a dumb idea, but im looking to build a mineral oil pc

i bought the tank, hung the motherboard and so on

[jagged ember]

you're asking about it after you already bought everything?

[daring edge]

yes i dont have a pump tho

[jagged ember]

just

get the pump?

I don't know why you're even asking lol you've already done it

[oblique sage]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cTyhFg

[fossil cedar]

Would change a few things there

[oblique sage]

i was just about to ask who could tweak and finish this off for me

[fossil cedar]

You going for any theme?

Or something?

Also budget and use for the pc?

[oblique sage]

i care only about performance and dollar coast average to performance, asthetics mean nothing to me honestly. max is 3k but rather budget

[woeful garnet]

https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/list/2sGQcb is this a good value pc btw my budget is 1550 euros

[fossil cedar]

Okay, including monitor etc? Also gaming etc

Or performance in what

[woeful garnet]

please tell me what i should change (i need a monitor 1440p)

[oblique sage]

monitor seperate but would be nice to be included4

[fossil cedar]

Not too bad but definitely could do a bit better, will help in a sec

[fossil cedar]

I assume you're gaming? Do you want to overclock as well?

[oblique sage]

gaming, streaming, trading, also want to learn do some devolping in the future

@fossil cedar

[fossil cedar]

@oblique sage you need wifi?

[oblique sage]

no dont need it hardwire only

[fossil cedar]

@oblique sage here's like best of the best https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MYsTpH
but you'll basically not notice a difference in performance from this
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dnxwyK

[woeful garnet]

ayoo 6950 xt

[frigid night]

ew

[frigid night]

Why does my build cost more and I only have a 12600k??

[woeful garnet]

💀

[frigid night]

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/tiraniss/saved/Yg8JnQ

[woeful garnet]

2 extra monitors

[frigid night]

2 of my monitors is the cost of that 1 monitor in the 1st build pato linked

[woeful garnet]

z690 💀

[frigid night]

?

the builds he linked has z690

and it's ddr5

[woeful garnet]

huh he has a b660m

[frigid night]

I meant first build he linked

[obsidian wigeon]

different currency

[frigid night]

the links say USD for currency

[obsidian wigeon]

huh

[fossil cedar]

https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/list/gbm92m

[woeful garnet]

oo

[fossil cedar]

Uhh prices decreased idk?

[frigid night]

pfft

I'm at 4k if I include my desk and soundbar.

jeeze I've spent a lot of money on this. That price also doesn't include the various GPUs I've gone through as well as the last set of fans and AIO lol

[woeful garnet]

huh a 5600 here is the same price as a 5600x LOL

[obsidian wigeon]

5600x is also the same chip

[woeful garnet]

only on amazon

[obsidian wigeon]

just slightly higher clock speed

[fossil cedar]

Well you paid 200 extra extra for gpu, 1tb extra storage, almost 200 in fans, an extra 250 in monitor, board was an expensive not needed option and prices have gone down :o

[frigid night]

what do you mean not needed?

I was originally gonna go for the 12700k though.

[fossil cedar]

It's like 30€ cheaper?

[fossil cedar]

Like you could have gone ¢200 mobo

[analog hearth]

@frail valve how well is that cooler working?

[fossil cedar]

$

[woeful garnet]

only on amazon on that other website its 30 euros cheaper lol

[frigid night]

When I was doing research on mobo, that was the best value for features at the time. Plus.. I asked you about it and you said it was a good board 😛

[fossil cedar]

Yeah megekko is a reliable site

[woeful garnet]

yep

[analog pulsar]

https://i.imgur.com/yvgDU0J.png 👀

[fossil cedar]

Legion 5 pro clear winner

[analog pulsar]

top one

[fossil cedar]

No, 5800h

[analog pulsar]

why

its like 1400 close to the 5i pro\

[fossil cedar]

Best value

[analog pulsar]

idk

[fossil cedar]

It is

[analog pulsar]

3070 had more wattage to bring to table plus 14core vs 8core

hmmmmmm

plus i heard they improved cooling on there 2022 models

something about fans being smaller

https://i.imgur.com/lm3euyF.png

[fossil cedar]

Yeah but it's not worth 200$ also 8c is plenty for gaming

[oblique sage]

For that first build. Liquid cooled seems to be the optimal choice im assuming? Also could I run that phantek 400A case?

[fossil cedar]

Yes an air cooler would get demolished by a 12900k, i would not put the first build in a p400a, the p500a allows top mounting the aio and a build like that gets hot any extra airflow is useful

[woeful garnet]

is 32gb really needed for gaming or can i get a 16gb kit?

[runic spruce]

16 gb would be fine for gaming

[mossy venture]

if youre getting a 12900k... get a 32gb kit

[analog pulsar]

True

[woeful garnet]

aight

[mossy venture]

i suggest 32gb with even a 12400f 3060 ti build, let alone a 12900k build

[runic spruce]

If u do have extra cash to spend I’d try 32gb

Better in the long term

[fossil cedar]

You can get a 16gb kit but I'd recommend 32gb for a 1500€ build

[woeful garnet]

my build rn is under my budget with the 32gb so its fine

[runic spruce]

But u can always upgrade from 16gb

[fossil cedar]

Can be a pain to do tho

Usually easiest is to just do a swap for 2x16gb

[runic spruce]

32gb is slightly better bc of dual ranks

[fossil cedar]

Although not all 32gb is dual rank

[runic spruce]

Most of them are

It’s those high clocked ones that might be single ranked

[fossil cedar]

Even some ballistix 3200mhz 2x16gb kits are single ranked

[runic spruce]

Crucial is the main one that does single ranks iirc

But it’s usually only single tank pass 4000mhz

Doesn’t really matter tho

Barely noticeable out of benchmarks

[oblique sage]

I just realized the memory and board are DDR5. What’s the advantage of going that route ?

I’m a newb with technicals

[fossil cedar]

Ddr5 is slightly better on the high end pretty bad value tho

I mean that whole list is, apart from the case psu and gpu isn't bad but isn't good value either

Same with monitor

When you reach the top of the top value goes out of the window

Paying 1k more for 2% extra perf

Okay well bit extreme but like 500$ more

[oblique sage]

I watched some comparisons on that gtx6950 vs 3089 and 3090 I was really impressed. I think the monitor I can wait for to catch a sale or get something comparable.

[mossy venture]

6950 is not gtx

gtx is nvidias cards before 20 series

[plucky adder]

guys, whats the difference between XFX Speedster QICK 308 ULTRA, and XFX Speedster SWFT 210 Core?

[mossy venture]

not much, mostly cooling id assume

[fossil cedar]

You can also drop the monitor to 170hz and get the M27Q-p for like 320 or go g27q for 144hz

[plucky adder]

so is the $10 more worth it?

or are they the same thing

[fossil cedar]

I'd just get the cheaper

[undone saddle]

What is a good asus board for 12th gen

[woeful garnet]

i found a b550 msi mpg for 94 euros a good deal?

[mossy venture]

why specifically asus

asus makes meh motherboards

[mossy venture]

also depends on the cpu

[undone saddle]

I7 12700k

[frail valve]

The one with the fan with the blue light?

[olive cypress]

Yeah

[mossy venture]

are you overclocking it

[analog hearth]

ye

[undone saddle]

No

[undone saddle]

I like asus

[mossy venture]

then theres no point in getting the 12700k instead of the 12700f

the 12700f performs identical to the 12700k

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4PG9Kp

[undone saddle]

The difference in price is not big tho

[frail valve]

Pretty good haven't stressed it out yet but it's not doing horribly so that's good

[fossil cedar]

It's 60$ and you save another 70$ on a board

[mossy venture]

are you in the us?

[undone saddle]

No

[mossy venture]

where are you

[undone saddle]

This is what i put in cart so far still deciding on board and not sure if ram good enough .......plan is play 4k

[mossy venture]

and whats your budget for the entire upgrade/build

[undone saddle]

Saudi arabia

[mossy venture]

ah

check prices on b660 mag bazooka, msi z690-a, asus prime z690

[undone saddle]

4k and little with shipping and all

[mossy venture]

msi z690 tomahawk

[undone saddle]

No need any accessories like keyboard mouse displays...etc

[undone saddle]

Are they the same

[mossy venture]

also 980 pro isnt worth it

check p31, p41, sn850, mp33, 970 evo

[mossy venture]

looks it

oh wait

no

ones ddr4, ones ddr5

get the ddr4

[undone saddle]

The ddr5 should supports 5 and 4 right?

[mossy venture]

no

ddr5 boards are only ddr5

[undone saddle]

Oh damn lol

That sucks for future

[mossy venture]

not really

[undone saddle]

How about the ram I choose is it good?

[mossy venture]

corsair ram is not great

check tridentz

[undone saddle]

What speed?

[mossy venture]

3200c16, 3600c18, or 3600c16

just depends on pricing

[mossy venture]

won't run in gear 1

meaning not great, unless cheaper than 3600c18

[undone saddle]

Oh

[mossy venture]

3200c16 will likely be the cheapest

[undone saddle]

That one is 187$ which isnts bad price so if there is something better i dont mind it

[mossy venture]

i mean, if the corsair ram is the cheapest it's fine

but id try for a trident z kit of similar price