building-and-recc-chat

[frank scaffold]

Still worth it to go with higher speed ram on intel? @potent portal

[cyan ravine]

On a K chip? Yes

[potent portal]

Yes. Intel has less problems going up to 4000 also

So that opens a few more options

[frigid night]

I'm at 4000 on my 12600k

[frank scaffold]

Price though too

[frigid night]

Totally worth

[potent portal]

40k?! Heretic!

[frigid night]

Yeah I have 10 sticks that run 4000, which means 40k :P

[frank scaffold]

3600 is still middle ground though, correct?

[potent portal]

4000 actually tends to be cheaper than 3600 since it's lower demand

[fossil cedar]

Imo it's not worth the 50$ from 3200

[potent portal]

3600 is still good

[frank scaffold]

If I'm not ocing or doing anything crazy would I even see a difference from 3600 to 4000?

Unless 4000 is the same price or cheaper

[frigid night]

Prob not.

[potent portal]

https://tenor.com/view/cease-your-heresy-warhammer-heresy-astartes-gif-18053812

[frigid night]

I never noticed a difference between 3600 and 4000

[potent portal]

You'll notice it in 1% lows and reduced stutters

[frigid night]

Ah

[frigid night]

What are 1% lows?

[cyan ravine]

Stutters and low fps moments

[potent portal]

You have your average frame rate that people like to measure, but there's also times where the fps drops for a few ms to a second while it loads textures, transitions, etc

[cyan ravine]

1% and 0.1% are the lowest averages of that

[frigid night]

Oh ok

[frank scaffold]

@potent portal messaged you. Have some more questions if you don't mind.

[potent portal]

I'm actually headed to bed, sorry

[cyan ravine]

Ram tuning helps best with that so you get a more consistent frame rate through higher ram access rate/data processing

[potent portal]

You can send them and I'll get to them in the morning if you wanted

[cyan ravine]

i.e bandwidth or latency

[frank scaffold]

@potent portal that's cool, I need to as well

[frigid night]

Oh ok.

[frank scaffold]

@cyan ravine maybe you can help me with that when I get this new cpu and mobo. Or you might have article about it?

[cyan ravine]

https://github.com/integralfx/MemTestHelper/blob/oc-guide/DDR4 OC Guide.md

[gaunt sentinel]

Worth?

[cyan ravine]

Yeah kinda. The board is very much on the edge of what it's ok to run with though imo

VRM's on it are kinda meh

It'll be fine for 11700K stock but overclocked it might run a bit too hot

[gaunt sentinel]

I want either a 6600xt or 6650xt

I dont plan on overclocking

[cyan ravine]

What are you using your system for?

[gaunt sentinel]

School and gaming

[cyan ravine]

You don't need an i7 for that

I5 will give more than enough

I say this because you also need to cool the 11700K lol

And that won't be as easy

[gaunt sentinel]

Think I can find an i5 and motherboard for cheap?

[cyan ravine]

Ye

What's your budget?

[gaunt sentinel]

I got 700 atm but can build upon that

[cyan ravine]

And monitor included in that?

[gaunt sentinel]

Already have a monitor

[cyan ravine]

Oh my b messages slow

[gaunt sentinel]

The 6650xt is just so hot I swear

369 on Amazon rn

[cyan ravine]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/v9qnyK

Or...

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fQChFg

I can go down on the cpu a bit but it's generally not worth

[gaunt sentinel]

It's cool thanks

I might just buy some parts now and get the rest later

Like I could get all the basics and upgrade ram eventually

[cyan ravine]

Sounds good

[frank scaffold]

What games are you playing?

[gaunt sentinel]

Uhh apex

Probably the most demanding game I'll play on it

[frank scaffold]

I know you aren't using a 6700xt but even with the added vram, it was significantly slower than a 3070

I personally would go with nvidia

[cyan ravine]

Value-wise it's hard to justify nvidia though, especially on super low-end

[frank scaffold]

I've personally never had very good luck with amd cards

[cyan ravine]

Unless you go second hand you won't get something on par with a 6600/XT for a similar price

[frank scaffold]

What if he can find a good deal on a 3060ti?

[gaunt sentinel]

Uhh

[cyan ravine]

For some 300? Sure, absolutely

Not easy to find tho

[steady canyon]

Hello I’m new to this and I’m currently building a pc and me and my bros are trynna plug stuff in but were not quite sure about the plug

[gaunt sentinel]

6650xt is on par with 3060ti right?

[steady canyon]

We were wondering if we could get some help

If anyone new how to plug in a pc

[cyan ravine]

Not really no. 3060 Ti is better and more expensive usually

[gaunt sentinel]

Oh ok

[frank scaffold]

What are you plugging in? @steady canyon

[steady canyon]

A vga cable plugged into a graphics card that has. 3 8 pins

[gaunt sentinel]

So is it even worth getting a 6650xt over a 6600?

[cyan ravine]

Over a 6600XT? Sometimes it is, with that little extra *in the budget

The most sensible 6X50 XT would be the 6750

[gaunt sentinel]

Also found this

[cyan ravine]

The case tho

[gaunt sentinel]

Ram is less than acceptable but it seems good right?

Oh case

[cyan ravine]

Also no idea what psu there

[gaunt sentinel]

Oh that too let me check

[cyan ravine]

And mobo

[gaunt sentinel]

Says 650 watts just doesn't say brand

[cyan ravine]

Eh idk then, not really worth over building from scratch for like, $20 more in the ssd

[gaunt sentinel]

Asrock b660m motherboard

[frank scaffold]

@steady canyon maybe look on youtube. Might be easier than someone trying to explain it

[steady canyon]

Theres nothing that confirms my concern

[frigid night]

What was your concern?

[frigid night]

Can you elaborate a little more? What GPU? What are you trying to do exactly?

[cyan ravine]

Yeah no not really worth it. I did a build up before where I went even cheaper and it was like $50 less that the pre-built

[gaunt sentinel]

Oh ok thanks

[steady canyon]

I have a evga rtx 3080 and it has like 3 8 pins on it. I have two vga cables that are 6+2 pins and it’s split on the end into another 6+2 pin. Can I just plug that into the third 8 pin on the graphics card?

[frank scaffold]

Thought 3080s only had 2 eight pin?

[frigid night]

So you have 1 cable that is 8pin that plugs into PSU then the other side is a 6+2. Then you have another cable that has 8 pin that plugs into PSU then the other end has 2 6+2 connectors?

[runic spruce]

Depends on the model

[steady canyon]

Yes

[frigid night]

Your PSU didn't come with a 3rd?

[steady canyon]

No it only came wit to

[cyan ravine]

What model is it?

The psu

Some pigtails have the capacity for it on some models, some are worse than the regular cables

I don't know which but I could find out

[steady canyon]

Word ok thanks

I think I understand

[frigid night]

What model PSU do you have? We don't want to recommend you do it if your PSU can't handle it.

Thats a recipe for big disaster

@steady canyon

Welp. He must've gotten blown up.

[strong raft]

2nd from the right is perhaps what you can do.

[cyan ravine]

If the psu pigtails (and lesser the psu) can handle it

[frigid night]

Hehe @strong raft

[steady canyon]

I’m here thank u

[runic spruce]

Well a pig tail and 2 direct cables should be fine on a 3 pin card

It is a 3080

[steady canyon]

This is the best chart I’ve seen so far

[runic spruce]

Third connector is suppose to be like extra power

[cyan ravine]

Not always, I've read they sometime use worse gauges in the main cable of pigtails

[steady canyon]

I understand the no pigtails.

I didn’t know what they were

[cyan ravine]

Oh my bad, they're the 2 plug cables

For pcie

[steady canyon]

Literally 2 on 1 end

[cyan ravine]

Ye

[steady canyon]

Y

So confusing

[cyan ravine]

So which psu do you have for this build?

What's it say on the psu box

[strong raft]

It's a pigtail. have you never seen a pigtail or a girl with hair in pigtails? lol . Also, here's an example on them. Sometimes all they do is take a bit of load off of the main connector, but nearly pointless.

[frigid night]

Mmmmm pigtails. <3

[steady canyon]

Evga 1000 watt supernova

Lol Pigtails

[cyan ravine]

Which specific supernova?

1000W is a good sign

[frigid night]

That just means bigger bomb :P

[runic spruce]

More sparkly boom boom lights

[cyan ravine]

It'll say like, G2, GA, GT, G6, P2, P3 or something similar

[steady canyon]

1000 watt gold evga 1000 watt g6 super nova

[cyan ravine]

G6 you're fine

1000%

[frigid night]

Yeah plug that crap in and forget about it.

[steady canyon]

Oh ok

[strong raft]

Could always be slightly less lazy and just hook up 3 cables.

[cyan ravine]

He doesn't have 3

[frigid night]

Only has 2

1 with pigtails

[cyan ravine]

That's how it started

[strong raft]

Does it happen to have 3 cpu cables? A certain corsair does that I think.

[steady canyon]

No I got 3 pigtails cables and 2 regular what’s a all its

[frigid night]

Oh. If you have another pigtail, then just use the 1 pcie connector. So use your normal cable. Then use 2 pigtail cables.

[cyan ravine]

3 pigtails? Use those

1 for each plug

[steady canyon]

It’s not that big a case

[frigid night]

If you can fit that big of a 3080 in there then there should be enough room to fit a 3rd cable.

[steady canyon]

Lol maybe I’ll try

[frigid night]

Sometimes you gotta finagle stuff around.

[frigid night]

Actually, use your 2 normal cables. And the third use a pigtail.

[steady canyon]

Yea I’m just not feeling confident about plugging it in even tho u guys are giving me pretty sure vibes

[frigid night]

Well its better to use 3 separate cables than to daisy chain.

[frigid night]

Just make sure the pc is unplugged and (i do this) psu is switched off.

[steady canyon]

Yep yep did this

Thnk u

[frigid night]

You got this man. Gotta do to learn. :)

You'll be a pro at it after this.

[steady canyon]

Thnk u❤️

It’s really my brothers pc but were building it together

I may still need somebody

I have a liquid freezer 2 240 water cooler and I don’t know wet to plug it in on the mother board ?

[frigid night]

Either the CPU header or PUMP header. What motherboard do you have?

[runic spruce]

Cpu fan header would be best I think

[frigid night]

Just depends. I have mine on PUMP.

PUMP headers also output more power.

[steady canyon]

Msi z690 force Wi-Fi

[empty pollen]

All headers on modern mobos supply enough power for pumps

[frigid night]

Plug it into either one.

[runic spruce]

I don’t think u can control the output of power on the pump header, but that doesn’t really matter when u have software

[frigid night]

If you choose pump and it gives you error on boot then plug into cpu

[steady canyon]

Do I have to plug the fans on the radiator onto the mother board

[runic spruce]

Did the aio come with a controller?

[frigid night]

Prob not.

[runic spruce]

Plug into the rad

[frigid night]

No, the fans should plug into each other then into a wire that runs down the tubing to the pump block. Then that cable leads to your cpu/pump header

[runic spruce]

Artic runs their fan headers into the rad

[steady canyon]

Ok thnk u

[cyan ravine]

Wait hold on, ddr5?

What cpu is this

[frigid night]

True. I personally think my pump should go on the pump header. I know that for some people that's not possible because boot error.

[frigid night]

I bet.. 12700k

Well.. 240 rad.. ill change that to 12600k. Possibly 12400

[cyan ravine]

With ddr5?

Force is a d5 board

[frigid night]

Thats what he said.

Idk what cpu, but I'm assuming by rad size thats what they have

[cyan ravine]

Going by the psu I'm guessing 12700K or higher too

In which case a 240 rad isn't suited for that

[frigid night]

I have a 1kw psu with a 12600k

[steady canyon]

Yes

I7

[frigid night]

Ooof

[steady canyon]

12700k

[cyan ravine]

Lol

[frigid night]

Don't overclock that with that aio

[cyan ravine]

Hell even running it at stock in some workloads it's gonna struggle a bit

Gaming it'll be fine

[runic spruce]

Yea an oc while gaming will manage

[steady canyon]

I7 12700k lag 1700

[cyan ravine]

A light oc yes. You can't stability test a full oc properly with a 240 rad in this scenario

[runic spruce]

Maybe cinebench too but it would get a little bit hot

[cyan ravine]

Cinebench I would wager too hot

[frigid night]

Prob get a lot too hot

My 12600k with a 360 arctic gets up to 89

[runic spruce]

How much power can a 12700k draw again?

[cyan ravine]

@steady canyon which ddr5 sticks btw

[runic spruce]

Perfectly fine

Pass 95 is bad

[frigid night]

K and 12700k runs hotter AND is being paired with a significantly smaller aio

[runic spruce]

Welp an undervolt wouldn’t hurt

[cyan ravine]

An undervolt could work but why get a K chip at that point imo

I would take the cooler back and get a clc 360 or LFII 360

But that's me

[steady canyon]

Corsair vengeance 32 go 5600 milahertz

[runic spruce]

Same

[frigid night]

LfII is a little on the spendy side now.

280 would do ok

[cyan ravine]

Ok so not bad. I think those are samsung

Ddr5 not worth it but at least the choice wasn't anything 5200

So you'll get decent mileage

[steady canyon]

I know but it was the same price as ddr 4

[empty pollen]

o.O

[cyan ravine]

Uh...?

[empty pollen]

debatable

[cyan ravine]

[steady canyon]

At least when I bought it

[frigid night]

Prob could have got better board if went with ddr4.

[cyan ravine]

As dominator ddr4 you mean? Cos I'll believe that

Not regular ddr4

[still roost]

MauDStaR#3386 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[empty pollen]

but then again, the edge is not a cheap mobo

[steady canyon]

Oh my bad what word was it

[cyan ravine]

Fwiw if those were your two choices of ram I'm glad you picked the ddr5 tbh, cos ddr4 corsair is most of the time sketchy

[steady canyon]

I got it on Amazon day

[empty pollen]

you said D*s_Felix... profanity

dont worry

[frigid night]

Grats on becoming a green regular :)

You can now post screenshots and whatnot

[cyan ravine]

Z690 msi also a decent choice

I mean this list is spendy but I can only find one thing I'd actually worry about so far

[steady canyon]

This is what I was talking about

I was so confused

[cyan ravine]

Ye those are pigtails

[steady canyon]

Thnk u

[cyan ravine]

Np lol

[strong raft]

Well the shorter 2nd connector on there is the pigtail to be specific. 👍 Could be ziptied to itself.

[cyan ravine]

Ye

[steady canyon]

This is so far

[empty pollen]

looking good

[runic spruce]

Pc looks nice bro

[cyan ravine]

Ah vengeance lpx ddr5

[empty pollen]

not a 510 case right?

[runic spruce]

Is the mesh ones

[steady canyon]

A deep cool ck560

[cyan ravine]

Nice

I like that one

Ngl lol

[runic spruce]

The 510 case shroud is like flushed in with the case

And doesn’t support too mounting

[cyan ravine]

What ssd you pick @steady canyon ?

[runic spruce]

Just realized that lol

[cyan ravine]

Ok, overspent again but still good

2tb too

[runic spruce]

It’s fine bro

[cyan ravine]

My only real suggestion is swap that cooler to a 360 version

[runic spruce]

1st time builds always have some overspending problems lol

Speaking from experience

[frigid night]

I 2nd this.

[cyan ravine]

If I could suggest more, I would be redoing half the build

[frigid night]

Ahaha

[runic spruce]

Same

But it’s ready built and bought

[cyan ravine]

But the choices are fine save the cooler

[frigid night]

I think its fine tbh

[runic spruce]

To much of a hassle to return and replace parts

[strong raft]

Nah just assume it was on prime day. idk if that's the 240 or 280, but a 280 performs close to the 360

[empty pollen]

quite the coin invested

[frigid night]

Then again.. I'm one to spend $$$ because white.

[runic spruce]

I bought white psu for 190

[empty pollen]

can relate... 5000x on the 3 pcs on my home

[cyan ravine]

You could get a msi force board 👀

Lol

[frigid night]

He said 240. Looks like it if you look at the fans compared to front fans. 280 would def be ok.

280/360 are not that far off from each other in performance.

[empty pollen]

280 perform close if not best than a 360

[cyan ravine]

Yeah 280 would be fine

But 3x 120 in the front

[empty pollen]

but they look kinda weird

[cyan ravine]

And in order to gain pato approval

I have to suggest 360

[frigid night]

I don't gain it. I demand it.

[runic spruce]

420mm rads

[empty pollen]

h170i or go home son

[frigid night]

White galahad, or git rekt.

[cyan ravine]

H170i lowkey decent on 12th gen without a contact frame

[runic spruce]

Use the car rad or no pc

[cyan ravine]

Just expensive af

[frigid night]

Aye

[cyan ravine]

Like everything corsair

[runic spruce]

Meant to cool 170c v8 engines

[empty pollen]

or those funny 120x12 fans square rads

[runic spruce]

Should handle a pc quite well

[cyan ravine]

A whole line of these to make a 360 rad

[steady canyon]

Does anyone have a diagram or picture of all the plug that need plugged into what type of plug

I need to plug in for dummies book

[frigid night]

Your mobo manual should have that

[runic spruce]

R u talking about the front panel connectors

[empty pollen]

mobo manual ma friend

those are detailed there

[steady canyon]

What is this on the back of the case exactly

[empty pollen]

the fan hub

[frigid night]

Thats cute

[steady canyon]

So many cables on the back

[runic spruce]

Cable management is fun

[frigid night]

Sometimes

[empty pollen]

yeah cable management is a pain

[cyan ravine]

Welcome to extreme pc buildin

[runic spruce]

Can always shove the cables down the shroud

[frigid night]

@strong raft poppin in here givin the easy way out.

We all look at our manual.

[empty pollen]

the ol' slap the case side panel and make them fit

[runic spruce]

Honestly I only used that thing for errors codes overclocking

[frigid night]

I uhh.. did this a week ago when I installed the 3080 :D

Friday is a almost total rebuild, so it'll get remanaged properly.

[strong raft]

Fp varies a bit per mobo/case.

[frigid night]

Bruhhh

[empty pollen]

hey chillin where you'd been my whole life man ❤️

[steady canyon]

Oh ok thnk u

Ok so my brother went to take a shower so I’m gonna send this pic of the mother board and can someone tell me what plugs into these if u have time

Lol

[frigid night]

Bottom right is where you'll plug in the front panel io cables.

Far left is your audio.

[runic spruce]

I personally wouldn’t use the audio, quality isn’t the best most of the time

And I’d also install the gpu last

[frigid night]

Everything in between are fan headers and rgb/argb headers

[runic spruce]

Makes it a tad bit easier to do the cables

[frigid night]

Except in the direct middle (little to the right) are usb headers

[steady canyon]

We’re do I plug my front fans in ?

[frigid night]

That thing that says LED SW1 is your led kill switch. Can turn all the lights connected to your mobo on/off with a flip of that switch

[cyan ravine]

EH

[steady canyon]

I have no egg lights of any kind

Rgb

[frigid night]

Anywhere that says sys_fan

[cyan ravine]

I have an egg light

[olive cypress]

I want eggl i ght

[strong raft]

Normal fans go to sys_fan or cha_fan, but a(rgb) I posted earlier. Plus idk about built in hubs. Also here's a few things.

The almighty term... idk if I got the mobo right: https://download.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MPGZ690CARBONWIFI_FORCEWIFI.pdf

[cyan ravine]

Looks right

I think carbon and force are just colours iirc

[steady canyon]

Yes I have this in my Manuel I see it now

There be so many languages bruh

Thank u all again btw

[frigid night]

No problem! Come here any time you have questions regarding building. If you have a question about a specific part, you can always ask in one of the designated channels. Remember, when you ask for help, to be as detailed as you can so we can help you the best we can. Also, just outright ask the question.

!ask

[still roost]

https://dontasktoask.com/

[steady canyon]

Ok one more question does the little arrow on the power switch connector mean negative of positive ?

[strong raft]

@steady canyon show it?

[steady canyon]

I can’t it says explicit content

[strong raft]

Lol, probably had a finger showing & discord thinks it's something else.

[steady canyon]

Basically the arrows on the back of the little ones

Power and reset switch has little arrows on the left

[strong raft]

A tip, polarity only matters with the leds. Sure the arrow isn't actually a plus sign? I hate it when they do that. Edit: could even leave the led wire(s) unplugged.

[steady canyon]

Oh

Even on power ?

Thnk u

[steady canyon]

Should I plug all my fans individually to motherboard or connect them?

Togather?

[frigid night]

If you have enough headers sure. I'd personally connect my 3 front fans together then only have to deal with 1 header.

[crystal berry]

guys is PALIT geforce rtx 3060 12gb and i3 12100f a good cpu and gpu combo

is this fuctional and is it good

[analog pulsar]

3060 ? They messages asking about 3060

[cyan ravine]

👀

[steady canyon]

It didn’t work

It’s not powering on

[frank scaffold]

What motherboard and cpu?

[mossy venture]

3060, id price that at maybe $350 max.

Not sure how much cash that would be on top

[analog pulsar]

okay

well im selling gpu like $650-700 so i just minus -300 and give them that for up top

[lilac ember]

@cyan ravine hey

[cyan ravine]

👀

What's ur budget?

[ripe spear]

He never mentioned the games he plans on streaming and the resolution

[ripe spear]

Usually best to find out what he plans on streaming and at what resolution first because from there he could have a system with lets say a 12100 and a 3060

[cyan ravine]

I'm aware, I've read all 3 messages

Lol

[frigid night]

Did you get it figured out?

[frigid night]

Make sure you are using the manual to figure out where to place these connections. That pic might not be the same order your mobo is. That could be a reason it won't turn on. Check all the connections between your PSU to hardware and make sure it's all plugged in all the way. Also, make sure your PSU switch is flipped to on (after you've checked all connections first).

[lilac ember]

i was amd i going intel

[frank scaffold]

Also make sure you only have the 24 pin (usually on the side) and the 8 pin (close to the CPU) plugged in. I once had a system that had another 4 pin connector on the board and when it was connected it didn't power on. Make sure to look over your motherboard and power supply manual. My manual for my power supply said to run 2 power cables for the graphics card. It didn't want me to use a pigtail

@lilac ember 12600k are 279 with 15 instant savings on the egg right now

[lilac ember]

that intel

[frank scaffold]

Yeah? i was amd i going intel

[cyan ravine]

What's your budget and what kind of games are you playing and streaming?

[frank scaffold]

You said you were amd going Intel

[lilac ember]

yep i going intel

[lilac ember]

i doing all out

this time

[cyan ravine]

Ok I have an idea then

[lilac ember]

3090 ti

🤯

Intel Core i9-12900K is good cpu

[cyan ravine]

No you can achieve all of that level of performance without spending anywhere near as much

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Ts4fnt

[steady canyon]

Yea I got it on thnk u now I’m trying to figure out how to install windows 11 from Msi bios

[lilac ember]

ty

[cyan ravine]

Wait lemme change the list rq I forgot the rgb side of it

[cyan ravine]

There fixed

Should be good for everything really

[lilac ember]

Corsair 7000D Airflow full Tower Case i usad

[cyan ravine]

You want to use that?

[lilac ember]

yep

[ripe spear]

ok but what games are you planning on streaming still

[cyan ravine]

You can, bit expensive tho. 4000D should be fine

[lilac ember]

All-time games on pc

[cyan ravine]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CkQWzf

[lilac ember]

gaming streaming adding sometimes YouTube video on gameplay

[cyan ravine]

4000D is smaller and almost 1/3 the price for looking basically the same

[frigid night]

Do you have an install media?

[ripe spear]

10gb but a little over 100$ less

[lilac ember]

Look now

[cyan ravine]

Oh you already have 7000D

[frigid night]

Now you makin me wanna upgrade to the 7000D from my 5000D...

[lilac ember]

Look now my Brother Drop it now I have build a new one

[cyan ravine]

What the heck happened

Omg

Smashed

[frigid night]

Yeah waow

[ripe spear]

@deep skiff scammer alert

[frank scaffold]

I thought the b660 chipsets weren't that great?

[frigid night]

All channels

[ripe spear]

@subtle halo you have a job here with a scammer

[frigid night]

Yeah @subtle halo

[cyan ravine]

We don't pay you nothing to do nothing

[frigid night]

[ripe spear]

But we don't pay him

[cyan ravine]

Well reo pays weggs

We need to be realistic

[subtle halo]

[steady canyon]

Idk what that is. I have a windows 11. Thumb drive and think I got it. Do I have to make a windows account online?

[lilac ember]

7000d very good with airflow my calling temperature 40c

[frigid night]

No. If you have windows on a USB drive then go into bios and make sure the boot order is set with the thumb drive as #1

Then save and exit bios.

[ripe spear]

I almost want to sell my 3060 Ti to get this 2080 Super lol

[steady canyon]

Ok thnk u

[frigid night]

Do it

[lilac ember]

I have go guy I be back later

[deep skiff]

he gone

[ripe spear]

https://tenor.com/view/minions-woohoo-yeah-despicable-me-gif-13968477

[frigid night]

get it figured out?

[analog pulsar]

Lol

[ripe spear]

3060 Ti is a 2080 Super just that has better cooling in a way

[analog pulsar]

I don't think 1 fan gunna do much

[frigid night]

not just the fan. the heatsink as well.. plus that 2080 super he is looking at is water cooled.

[lilac ember]

@frigid night now you like 7000d

[frigid night]

I don't need it. That would just require me to spend another $50 on fans to add.

I just spent $200 to upgrade my current fans just because lol

[olive cypress]

Oh god

[lilac ember]

Actually 300 on CORSAIR QL serious fan

[frigid night]

huh?

[olive cypress]

@lilac ember what actually happened to that case and GPU?

[ripe spear]

Technically it is 2 fans just one is connected to the AIO which the AIO part cools the GPU die while the other fan just cools everything else on the card

[analog pulsar]

Well yea but I heard 1080 watercool sucks

Bc it just has 1 fan

[frigid night]

that's a 2080 though

[analog pulsar]

Yea which means it's hotter

[olive cypress]

Aesthetic 2080 photo

[lilac ember]

My Brother drop it

[olive cypress]

Is he alive? (Aka did you kill him)

He must pay for that

[frigid night]

ok, but it's probably a better cooler/heatsink than the 1080

[analog pulsar]

Sure

[olive cypress]

Aaah
Nooo
That's so messed up

[jagged ember]

dude

[olive cypress]

I feel so sorry for that GPU

[jagged ember]

he didn't drop that

he dropped it

and kicked it across the street

then hit it with a shovel

that's the dent

[olive cypress]

Looks like it

Lol

[lilac ember]

Yep new I have to build a new one

[jagged ember]

actually rip dude

enormous pain

[lilac ember]

@olive cypress do you play Xbox

[olive cypress]

No I don't have one...

[lilac ember]

I see on your profile

That why I ask

[olive cypress]

Ooh
That's Minecraft account

Counts as xbox

[jagged ember]

Microsoft moment

[lilac ember]

Discord need make one for only Minecraft account

[jagged ember]

those don't exist anymore

[ripe spear]

Why not just replace the GPU?

[olive cypress]

Have you seen the case?

Both glass and PCIe

[jagged ember]

no...?

what the hell happened?

[ripe spear]

His brother dropped the system that was already on the floor

[jagged ember]

h o w

[ripe spear]

No clue

[jagged ember]

did he drop it down the stairs?

[olive cypress]

Flip it over?

[ripe spear]

Guessing on the side

[jagged ember]

on the side it'd probably be fine!

[olive cypress]

Looks like it

[jagged ember]

like literally it'd likely be just fine

if it only tipped over

[ripe spear]

#building-and-recc-chat message both images are on the same floor so

[olive cypress]

No? Lol

Btw he could have moved the pc

[jagged ember]

not the same floor tho

the other one isn't glossy

[olive cypress]

^

My modem is about to end like that computer

[jagged ember]

that'd be fine

can just buy another one

[celest sun]

What monsters...

[olive cypress]

@lilac ember we want the truth, that pc looks not dropped
It's something worse ofc

Or unless it fell down the stairs then it could be possible

[jagged ember]

even linus dropping it wouldn't rip up the gpu like that

[olive cypress]

Yep

The 3090 drop

Wideus

[jagged ember]

https://c.tenor.com/Dv5ZuPM0z74AAAAM/graphics-card-drop.gif

[celest sun]

I would 💩 bricks

[olive cypress]

https://tenor.com/view/linus-linus-drop-linustechtips-linusdroptips-drop-gif-24524203

https://tenor.com/view/throw-toss-drop-linus-linus-tech-tips-gif-26020574

Yeet

[celest sun]

That's how it be when you've got 100's of spares

those who don't, put their 3090 on a pedestal and leave it th alone

[jagged ember]

do notice it's the same 3090

[olive cypress]

If I had a 3090 I'd carry it with the box even to move it by 2 inches

[frigid night]

as my 6950xt is sitting out on my table uncovered.

[steady canyon]

I did thank u all again it’s on and my brothers baby is alive

[celest sun]

I do have a 3090, and i sweat when it needs to move or get unplugged

[steady canyon]

I feel as if I’ve just given birth Rofl

[frigid night]

Awesome! Now time to do all the windows updates. After those are finished. Update all the drivers that need updating 🙂

[steady canyon]

Yea doin that now

[jagged ember]

kenzie

this is build chat

that's general chat content lol

[subtle halo]

no way xD good stuff move it on general chat

i have strix tho

[analog pulsar]

Omg

[weary galleon]

2080s is worse though...?

[fossil cedar]

Stonks?

[weary galleon]

2080s is worse than a 3060ti, 2080ti is a bit better or equal

there's also an aio 2080ti on bstock but its 499

so might as well get the 499 3070

well i guess the 2080ti does have more vram

[untold vessel]

Hey guys how large of a USB Stick do I need to download windows onto to then be transferred to the new build

16GB? 32?

[torpid nebula]

16 gb should be good

[fossil cedar]

420 3080 12gb ftw3 tho 🤤

[fossil cedar]

Needs to be at least 8

[weary galleon]

That was a while ago

Talking what's in stock rn

[fossil cedar]

Like 1 week ago

[weary galleon]

Yeah and I didn't get one ;(

I wonder if it was a price error

Like supposed to be 620 maybe

[fossil cedar]

Idk but fatal got one for 420 so don't think so

Or it it was they honoured it

[weary galleon]

My guess is that becuse bstock is used products in small drops they just decided to honor the price

[plucky adder]

guys, whats the difference between XFX Speedster QICK 308 ULTRA, and XFX Speedster SWFT 210 Core?

[steady canyon]

Thank u again to All the people in this chat who helped me build and my bros build this pc. This is our first and we are both very proud and thankful its alive!!!!

https://tenor.com/view/made-my-day-you-made-my-day-my-heart-blessed-thankful-gif-12461451

[rich void]

Got any builds pics for #build-pics? Congrats on the new rig!

[frigid night]

You are most welcome. Feel free to stick around. Ask questions when you need answers 🙂

[drowsy zodiac]

thinking of building a gaming pc just something to light game on, will a i5 11400f and gtx 1650 work?

[fossil cedar]

Yes but poor choices, what country and budget?

[unique haven]

Are there good quality gpus for 400 dollars?

I’m thinking of getting a Rx 6600 xt

[potent portal]

That would be a good option. I've seen them as low as $330

[potent portal]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/DgFbt6/asrock-radeon-rx-6600-xt-8-gb-challenger-d-oc-video-card-rx6600xt-cld-8go

[unique haven]

Is there a difference between that and this

https://www.amazon.com/Sapphire-Technology-Radeon-Graphics-11309-03-20G/dp/B09C7RMJ5Z/ref=mp_s_a_1_6?crid=2SZPSEX98X3A6&keywords=rx+6600+xt&qid=1658946455&sprefix=rx+6600+xt%2Caps%2C122&sr=8-6

[potent portal]

Nothing major. The sapphire has a higher power limit and boost clocks

[unique haven]

So I should go with the cheaper one

[potent portal]

Yeah there's little real world difference, might as well save $30

[unique haven]

Okay thank you!!

[unborn mesa]

Should i use a m.2 to pcie adapter or just buy sata drives?

[mossy venture]

Did you mean m.2 to sata?

[unborn mesa]

Nah like the 2.5” sata drives

I got 2 m.2 on my bosrd but they both got a m.2 drive so

Tryna see how i can expand and which is a smarter way to

[strong raft]

They meant m.2 to pcie slot, and yes that's fine. It's how I have an sn550 in a z77 mobo. Of course I don't boot from it, that's what the MX500 is for. Sata would be fine for most stuff, long as you get a decent price.

[potent portal]

I booted from an adapted nvme drive on my old FX 8300 system

Works perfectly fine. All it's really doing is providing the proper interface, they both use the PCIe protocol already.

[lilac ember]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CJ8Nxs

I trying to find Power supply for this

[potent portal]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/QdFbt6/evga-supernova-g6-1000-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-220-g6-1000-x1

[lilac ember]

i need 1200 or 1500 1600

[potent portal]

No you don't but I'll pick one

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/V6vRsY/evga-supernova-p2-1200-w-80-platinum-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-220-p2-1200-x1

[lilac ember]

What you think of the build

[potent portal]

It's good for wasting money

[unborn mesa]

What adapter do you have

[strong raft]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B098SHJ37J - gen 4 model just in case & $11 felt decent.

[unborn mesa]

I seen a adapter with 4 m.2

[lilac ember]

I like built it once do it right

[potent portal]

Sure but you're also spending $2000 more for about 10% more performance

[unborn mesa]

Shadow what you need that build for

[lilac ember]

Gaming streaming adding and YouTube

[unborn mesa]

Pointless build tbh

3080 will do fine

And im guessing an i7

[cyan ravine]

.

[unborn mesa]

Lmao

[strong raft]

What I'm waiting to see is 13700, which will be similar to 12900 thnx to the Ecore upgrades. . Close to the worst time to get high end of current gen is all, lol

[unborn mesa]

Might do intel next build tbh

Depending on how long my current lasts

[lilac ember]

I like do over kill

[potent portal]

Ok but why spend 150% more money for 10% more fps

[lilac ember]

idk

[fossil cedar]

I approve but why spend extra on the ram over regul 3200?

[cyan ravine]

He wanted rgb

[lilac ember]

yes i like rgb

[cyan ravine]

That ddr5 is so ridiculous too it's 6 times more expensive for 2 or 3% performance

[lilac ember]

what good ram

[cyan ravine]

Cheap ddr4

With rgb

Lol

[unborn mesa]

Pointless

[strong raft]

For all these other parts, I'd definitely be having 3600c16 or something in there. - I forget who, but showed some tasks w/ 12th gen like extra bandwidth.

[unborn mesa]

Recommend some rgb ddr4

All the rgb i found is about 150+ for 32gbs

[cyan ravine]

I did. SP turbines are like the cheapest decent ddr4 kit

(with rgb)

[lilac ember]

Everything going ddr5

[fossil cedar]

Also would opt for the mortar wifi for 10$ more

[fossil cedar]

Oh well I'd get some better rgb than that then lol

[potent portal]

Current DDR5 is no better than moderately high end DDR4

[fossil cedar]

6 is an not correct but yeah ddr5 is terrible value atm

[unborn mesa]

@strong raft https://a.co/d/du2CKUV think this would work fine?

[cyan ravine]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dZcpzf @lilac ember

Why mortar over pro tho? Aren't they very similar?

[fossil cedar]

I would do this
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TCwstn

[fossil cedar]

Just a bit better, not needed but for 10$ imo it's worth the better vrms and built in io shield

[cyan ravine]

He wants a 7000D so that's why I put 4000d lol

[fossil cedar]

Also looks like there's an extra usb as well as a usb c and better audio afaik

Makes sense

[strong raft]

Sure. I just didn't want to spend $50+ & I'm not buying 4ssds anytime soon. Plus, the slot mine is in only does x8 max.

[lilac ember]

I’m planning to do custom were calling with it

[cyan ravine]

Custom?

[lilac ember]

Yep

[cyan ravine]

Custom loop?

[lilac ember]

Yep

[cyan ravine]

Noooo

[fossil cedar]

They're stupid expensive

[cyan ravine]

Not worth

[fossil cedar]

It's not even worth it to custom loop a 12900ks 3090 ti

[lilac ember]

Why not

[cyan ravine]

Conventional cooling is so good now that you stand to gain maybe 1 or 2% on full water

And spending like

An extra 600 or more

[fossil cedar]

Tiny performance difference in overclocking head room for like 400$ minimum

[lilac ember]

If you Voice chat I’ll be there

[potent portal]

Unless you're planning on doing some hardcore overclocking and benching you don't need a custom loop

[cyan ravine]

Even then it's barely worth it

(Insert my 3090 that didn't go faster on water)

[fossil cedar]

On the flagship products, literally 0 point on a 3080 12gb and 12700f

[potent portal]

Yeah pretty much

[lilac ember]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VKZytn this was my amd i have

[cyan ravine]

Are the ssd, ram and cooler salvalgeable?

[lilac ember]

yep

[cyan ravine]

Salvalvagabable

Ok great

Use those

I can approve using another 7000D if you reuse those

[lilac ember]

That was going to do

[fossil cedar]

This your current pc?

[cyan ravine]

Reuse those fans too, very meh fans but money saved

[lilac ember]

yep for 3y

[lilac ember]

join me in general 1 voice

[strong raft]

Money saved for a couple fans + ShadowReaper does not correlate.

[fossil cedar]

Personally I'd wait until 13th gen intel and just stick the 3080 12gb into your current pc or if you have a decent gpu atm wait for rx 7000 or rtx 40 series and change out the psu to g6 850w or 1000w

[cyan ravine]

It got wrecked

[drowsy zodiac]

looking for a basic ass cpu fan is cooler master any good?

don’t care for rgb lol

[cyan ravine]

It's too early in the morning for me to do voice chat

[lilac ember]

Truth be told waiting for new AMD be out

[cyan ravine]

Se-214-xt or gammax 400* can work. What cpu?

[fossil cedar]

Gammaxx 400 for 15$ or id cooling se 214 xt for 20$

[drowsy zodiac]

i5 11400f

[lilac ember]

I in us 5:43 pm

[cyan ravine]

Yeah it'll be fine

[drowsy zodiac]

bet

now another question

gtx1650 for light gaming

yes or no

[cyan ravine]

I'm in Australia 7 in the morning lol

[fossil cedar]

I would see how 13th gen goes, ryzen 7000 is gonna be ddr5 only

[fossil cedar]

It will work but as i mentioned earlier poor choice atm, what country and budget for the pc?

[cyan ravine]

Pato

[drowsy zodiac]

canada 1500$

[lilac ember]

I know I see the Live stream

[drowsy zodiac]

i got a build list rn

[fossil cedar]

Oh god 1500 for 1650 gaming pc is horrible 1 sec

[cyan ravine]

You can do way better than a 1650

[drowsy zodiac]

man prices are terrible lol

[cyan ravine]

Try something like a 6700xt

[drowsy zodiac]

i’ll send my list

[strong raft]

On the Intel side, big thing is that 13700K might basically equal a 12900K thnx to Ecore upgrades. We'll see. At the very least there's an ipc increase & more Ecores on each model.

[cyan ravine]

Probably better actually

[fossil cedar]

@drowsy zodiac need wifi?

[fossil cedar]

Oof

[cyan ravine]

Ye motherboard prolly screwed

[drowsy zodiac]

yes

here i’ll just send a basic list

not the case and whatever

[cyan ravine]

Pato will be making one

Allow time for magic

[drowsy zodiac]

cpu i5 11400f 190$
gpu Msi ventus gtx 1650 225$
ram 16gb 3200 team tforce 85$
mobo msi mpg Z490 190$

[cyan ravine]

You don't need a Z board

B560 or b460 is fine

[drowsy zodiac]

why not a z

[cyan ravine]

Really anything decent but cheap as you can go for 11400f

Z is for overclocking and 11400F is not an overclocking chip

Also

12th gen will serve better value here

[drowsy zodiac]

this will be my first time building a pc

i bought a ibuypower prebuilt and it was garbage broke in 30 mins no joke lol so i’m getting a refund

[cyan ravine]

Not unheard of tbh lol

[drowsy zodiac]

yeah true

[fossil cedar]

@drowsy zodiac https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/QTpcGL

This will be

[drowsy zodiac]

https://www.newegg.ca/p/N82E16811129272?item=N82E16811129272

this case any good

it comes with the fans and i’m not sure where to order fans

[fossil cedar]

No

[drowsy zodiac]

not good?

i want some rgb fans

[fossil cedar]

Hold on 1 sec then

[drowsy zodiac]

ok bet

[fossil cedar]

@drowsy zodiac
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/PkHytn

Case comes with 3 rgb fans

[cyan ravine]

G360A

[fossil cedar]

More likr g360 bae

[drowsy zodiac]

this will run good?

[cyan ravine]

Ye

[fossil cedar]

Very

[drowsy zodiac]

pretty cheap how do you guys find the deals

[fossil cedar]

Being kind, this will curb stomp your build

[cyan ravine]

Practice

[fossil cedar]

Pc part picker is great

[drowsy zodiac]

all good

i just wanna play like cold war and stuff

lol

[fossil cedar]

And sort low to high and just practice watching reviews n stuff

Oh yeah you can play cold war on 1440p on that

[lilac ember]

yep

[drowsy zodiac]

so will i need to buy more fans or no?

i’m a noob

lol

[cyan ravine]

Not on g360a

[drowsy zodiac]

i been playing xbox my whole life

[cyan ravine]

It comes with 3

[drowsy zodiac]

i don’t need the fan for the back ?

[cyan ravine]

Not really no

[fossil cedar]

Nope

[drowsy zodiac]

got any good website for windows 10 keys

[fossil cedar]

Iirc it comes with 1 black fan in the back already

[fossil cedar]

Just don't activate windows, which is free and legal

[drowsy zodiac]

yeah but then don’t you have the watermark

[fossil cedar]

Fair

[drowsy zodiac]

lol

[fossil cedar]

You can find keys on ebay for cheap from what I've heard

[drowsy zodiac]

so setting up the pc itself hard at all? or pretty straight forward

throw on a youtube vid and figure it out😭😂??

lol

[cyan ravine]

Can play it while you make it if that works for you

Oh wait windows

My b lol

7am

[fossil cedar]

Pretty straight forward, a lot of things only fit one way etc

[cyan ravine]

NO 8AM

[drowsy zodiac]

say less

[cyan ravine]

[drowsy zodiac]

you guys add me back for when i have all the parts and stuff incase i need help?

[fossil cedar]

Why'd you delete the guide?

[fossil cedar]

Just pop in here

[cyan ravine]

https://youtu.be/BL4DCEp7blY

Undeleted

[fossil cedar]

But that's a good guide from LTT ^^

[drowsy zodiac]

ok bet

i saved the links

thanks guys!

much appreciated

[cyan ravine]

Thought they just meant windows

[fossil cedar]

NP

[fossil cedar]

Ahh

[drowsy zodiac]

what fps you think on cod? and stuff similar

[cyan ravine]

Not sure off the top of my head but it'd be mid fr

[fossil cedar]

In 1440p like ~180fps in 1080p pfft 200+

[drowsy zodiac]

jesus

that’s crazy

[fossil cedar]

Probably 250+ at 1080p

[drowsy zodiac]

wow

[cyan ravine]

You got a monitor that's 1440p?

[drowsy zodiac]

i do not

[fossil cedar]

@frank stirrup how many fps you get in call of booty on your 6750?

[cyan ravine]

G27Q if you can afford it on top is a good one

Otherwise the list might need adjusting

[fossil cedar]

He has slightly better gpu, worse cpu, plays 1080p ^ should be roughly same

[drowsy zodiac]

to expensive for what i’m looking for

i’m just looking for a basic pc to run things nicely pretty much

[fossil cedar]

If you want a 1440p monitor in Canada, I'd go this monitor
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/N3JgXL/msi-optix-g273qf-270-2560x1440-165-hz-monitor-optix-g273qf

I have that one, it's good

[drowsy zodiac]

definitely keep that in mind

will any monitor work?

i just won’t get the full aspect of the graphics

[cyan ravine]

Any will but you won't use the pc (gpu) power properly

[drowsy zodiac]

hm

[fossil cedar]

Yes

[drowsy zodiac]

so maybe i just need a less powerful gpu

[fossil cedar]

Not need

[fossil cedar]

You'll be able to use it to it's full potential just you could use it at a higher resolution

[drowsy zodiac]

makes it sound like something is going to break lol

[cyan ravine]

Won't break, you'll just not be using the gpu to it's full potential

[drowsy zodiac]

ohh ok

[potent portal]

Nah just means you're leaving power on the table you paid for

[cyan ravine]

So it's like, performance on the table

Ye

[drowsy zodiac]

i mean maybe in the future i could buy one of those monitors

i’m only 17 so minimum wage is pretty rough

[cyan ravine]

Should we adjust the list so it fits the budget with a monitor?

[drowsy zodiac]

i make 15$ a hour lol

[potent portal]

At least you don't have as many expenses

[drowsy zodiac]

agreed

but i got my phone bill and insurance

220 phone 280 insurance

[potent portal]

Insurance I understand being that high but how is your phone bill that high?

I pay less for 2 lines, 2 financed phones, plus Internet

[fossil cedar]

Maybe 220 early?

[potent portal]

All unlimited

[drowsy zodiac]

0$ down

[fossil cedar]

220 phone has to be anually

[drowsy zodiac]

2 year pay off thinf

220 a month

lol

after taxes

[fossil cedar]

You got scammed

[drowsy zodiac]

pretty much

i got the iphone 13

[potent portal]

So does my wife

[drowsy zodiac]

and my car is stupid priced with insurance

[potent portal]

We still pay $180 for all those lines and phones

[fossil cedar]

Let's be generous and say the SIM card cost 60/month

That means you're paying 4k for a 1k phone

[drowsy zodiac]

yeah fr lol

[fossil cedar]

Uhhh

[potent portal]

That's just a young driver problem, not much can be done

[fossil cedar]

How

[drowsy zodiac]

dunno tbh

i probably should call them

[potent portal]

What carrier

[drowsy zodiac]

it’s legit just my phone

virgin mobile

[potent portal]

Not even the service? Just the phone?

[drowsy zodiac]

phone and service

i’ve always got my phones from them tho

and they always seem to be in the same price range

like my iphone 8 awhile back was 200

[fossil cedar]

They scamming you there's no way they charging 220 a month

[drowsy zodiac]

i’m telling you lol

but it’s the same with my buddy’s too

[potent portal]

I looked and a 20gb data plan plus iPhone 13 is $65 a month

[drowsy zodiac]

06 g35 coupe

there’s no way

i got 10gigs unlimited calling

[drowsy zodiac]

that’s some bull i’m gonna talk to them about it now that you show me that

[potent portal]

Sorry 65 plus phone so 100 which is still too much

[fossil cedar]

Granted their canadian so it's more like 170$ usd

But still

[potent portal]

That's what I pay for 3 lines though

[fossil cedar]

Yeah still outrageous

[drowsy zodiac]

idk man i pay 220 cad

[fossil cedar]

Me with 25/month unlimited

[cyan ravine]

Pato 6600xt on g27q for cold war?

[drowsy zodiac]

wait could you guys do a decent build 1200$ - 1300$

with a monitor

[stoic island]

yes

[cyan ravine]

I'm doing one rn

[drowsy zodiac]

okok

[fossil cedar]

Ehh I'd do 1080 for 6600xt

[cyan ravine]

Ok

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/WpWhFg

Can trim it more to fit rgb but that's sort of the idea

[drowsy zodiac]

1500

hm

anyway to lower the price a little

or no

[potent portal]

Could save a little and go 12100

[fossil cedar]

@drowsy zodiac https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/3cVpzf

[cyan ravine]

I think 16gb ram would be a better saving

[fossil cedar]

They want rgb tho :/

[drowsy zodiac]

see i want these rgb ram tho https://www.newegg.ca/team-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820331285?item=N82E16820331285

[cyan ravine]

Rgb ram where

[drowsy zodiac]

they look cool

[potent portal]

Both probably to get it even lower

[stoic island]

getting it under 1300$ w monitor a bit annoying

[cyan ravine]

Idk, you kinda cut it a bit deep on a 12100

[drowsy zodiac]

it doesn’t have to be a amazing monitor

i’m not crazy about graphics i just want the thing to run decent yk?

[potent portal]

Not at 1440p

[cyan ravine]

G241 is all round good

[still roost]

Anxiety#7855 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[drowsy zodiac]

oh

i’ve grew up with bad laptops

[stoic island]

this is what'll have to happen to get it under 1300$ w monitor
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/ghTytn

[fossil cedar]

@Anxiety#7855 https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/jQggFg

They want wifi btw

[cyan ravine]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/HtsGbK

[fossil cedar]

Hence the expensive mobo

[fossil cedar]

6650xt is 5$ less

[drowsy zodiac]

this will work

[stoic island]

slightly annoying

[cyan ravine]

HELP I'M LAGGING

[cyan ravine]

I forgot

But yes

[fossil cedar]

You can also go p360a to save like 20$

Instead of g360a but ye

[drowsy zodiac]

honestly anything better then a intel inside laptop will make me happy

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/jQggFg this case comes with fans?

[stoic island]

btw is the budget 1300$ for the build and you have a separate budget for monitor or is it 1300$ for the build and monitor

[drowsy zodiac]

the build and monitor

[cyan ravine]

Ok I made it all fit

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/Lbx3gb

G360A also fits

[stoic island]

uh

[cyan ravine]

Wait 1300 for all of it?? Not 1500?

[stoic island]

might have to drop down to a 12100

[cyan ravine]

He said 1500 earlier

Ok i go back

[drowsy zodiac]

instead of radeon how about a 2070

[stoic island]

too expensive

unless you have some used deals

[drowsy zodiac]

hm

3050?

[cyan ravine]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/rJGC4s

Can take the cpu cooler out and use the stock one to keep it under 1300

[stoic island]

If you sacrifice performance for looks you can do
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/pG6H78

[stoic island]

performs worse than 6600 at the same price

[cyan ravine]

12400 fits

[stoic island]

ye but they wanted rgb ram therefore the "sacrifice performance for looks"

[cyan ravine]

I have rgb ram in mine

Lol

SP ftw

[stoic island]

oh yea I stuck to 1tb drive

[cyan ravine]

Ye

[stoic island]

and slightly better psu

[cyan ravine]

6600 btw is not a lot worse than a 6650 @drowsy zodiac

So you haven'treally lost much

But if you want to have the full rgb treatment then any lower you will start properly* losing performance

It's about as no frills as it'll go

[drowsy zodiac]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/rJGC4s

this one good?

[cyan ravine]

Ye it'll be good