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velvet summit
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please no

wary fjord
velvet summit
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i dont want to change like 100 account passwords

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lmao

pliant berry
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actually my instagram account was recently restricted but I couldn't find any notifications or evidence of any login attempts or active sessions so I really don't know why that was

velvet summit
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in fairness i dont use the majority of those accounts anymore

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they're usually for games and such

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it's been used in a few forums which im surprised are still fine because forums are known for data breaches

wary fjord
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Its api vulnerability so you wont even see u got hit

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It bypass everything if its api

velvet summit
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Interesting

pliant berry
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well that's fun, it was weird though since there was no login notif, and it happened twice but then again idk exactly how their api works. I also couldn't find any account activity that was suspect in messages, posts, profiles, etc

velvet summit
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I didn't know they had a data breach but I didn't have any notifications of account restrictions so maybe mine is fine

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I don't use Instagram anyways

wary fjord
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I remember Back then Facebook forgot to add max attempt on their otp confirmation api...

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People brute forcr it

velvet summit
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My account just existed to add some friends

wary fjord
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Can change anyone password

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Because its just 6 digit

velvet summit
pliant berry
wary fjord
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I hope u dont have nostalgic photos there without a backup

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I don't use Instagram xD i only see it as digital photo book

pliant berry
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nah I rarely use instagram, just to occasionally post photos for work purposes

wary fjord
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Its api vuln

velvet summit
wary fjord
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And theres gonna be more soon

velvet summit
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My Instagram account only has one image on it anyways

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Not even of me

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It was a picture of somebody adding a letter to something to make it mean something different

wary fjord
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I have one but i only use it for my project that uses social auth.. aka for development purposes only

outer urchin
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Hey guys, I just built my first pc and I get no display sk I turned it off with the psu, I ordered a monitor but im nervous for bios. first boot, and im wondering what this benchmarking stuff is? do I have to record my fps in all the games I play?

pliant berry
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this is reminding me that I still have 2 or 3 drafted posts I have to fix and schedule

velvet summit
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Make sure you let it run for a few minutes

outer urchin
bitter ridge
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Answer to the last part is no

wary fjord
outer urchin
velvet summit
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Benchmarking is not required but good to know what your performance is like compared to other systems but the bigger thing is just to make sure your temps are fine

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You typically use a benchmarking software

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3dmark is good enough (use the free version)

pliant berry
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if you just looking at stats all day you're not actually enjoying the game lol

outer urchin
velvet summit
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In PC building, celcius is the normal unit used even in the USA

grand kernel
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interesting... the monitor's 165hz setting has way less blanking than radeon custom resolutions

velvet summit
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Your temps are fine as long as you're not overheating (90+c)

bitter ridge
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I rather see what the game actually looks like and what settings changes what thing about the game visuals

grand wasp
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omg most people are saying it's a bad deal 🙁

pliant berry
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better be careful. these pc gaming communities can be vicious

bitter ridge
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Looks like Linus used a thermaltake smart here

pliant berry
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wasn't the smart series hated

grand kernel
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damn

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my vram refuses to idle at 120hz or higher

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idles properly at 100hz

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board draws 45w idle at 120hz+ and 17w idle at 100hz

sinful blade
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Guess who’s getting 2 old MacBooks tomorrow from fbmp forwardfacingpepe

grand kernel
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nvm I got it to idle at 120hz

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it also only supports 10 bit color at 120hz or lower

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hmm

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maybe I should just use 120hz from now on

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i like this

tranquil pebble
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sus

leaden pewter
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Man oh boi do I not qualify

velvet summit
sinful blade
upper rain
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i set all of my 144's to 120

sinful blade
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Updated the blacklist

proud jackal
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add shit to the blacklist

velvet summit
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No more shit in the blacklist

elfin mural
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$1200 for THAT??

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oh my

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the wallet is getting torn apart with this one

sinful blade
zinc violet
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hows it going everybody

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can anybody help me pick between two mice?

topaz crownBOT
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zinc violet
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should we not ask about hardware here?

olive plaza
worn night
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Hey guys i heard theres more steps than just spraying paint when spray painting a pc part

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I want to spray paint my old gpu shroud pink cause im building my cousin a pc, its made of plastic

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are there mores steps or can i just get some pink spray paint and spray it

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like this

mystic osprey
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Honestly there are plenty of youtube videos that you would be able to study and grasp much better than someone telling you over text chat

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not worth messing ur hardware up just research

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there are also computer building servers dedicated to this stuff that you'd get actual help in

worn night
lethal jasper
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sonny this is an amd build youre not built for these streets

elfin mural
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how the hell does this game manage to run at low settings

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on a 980ti

grand kernel
bitter ridge
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The meat of the visuals is stripped out but glad to see it at least be able to boot it up

grand kernel
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I spray painted an old office pc once and it turned out alright though

bitter ridge
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Apparently I can't use the steam controller with games I bought on Ea app, Ubisoft connect and Epic games

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What a bummer I thought it would just work with any games out there on any launcher

elfin mural
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hype aside, i think panther lake makes intel handhelds make sense

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too bad they will be ultra expensive

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the x7 358h at 18w and 12w that eta prime is simulating what the arc g3 extreme possibly runs with is performing very well

bitter ridge
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Similar to Amd on laptops Intel on handhelds has a design partnership problem

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They need the heavyweights like Asus and Lenovo to support it and just Msi won't cut it

elfin mural
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msi is massive too, but the claw's reputation was ruined already by intel's previous attempts

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it wasn't good enough

ashen swan
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I've come to this conclusion

ashen swan
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anyways about my conclusion
I was over hyped for the X7 on FW 13 Pro
Although YES a crazy Igpu on a 13 inch form factor is cool but I can't take it over a 8060s on the framework Desktop

I ALREADY have a M4 Air which is a great option that fits most things I like about the 13 pro

I would buy a 325 16gb Confiq once price drops or when a Framework 12 "Pro" launches and buy the framework desktop first

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I can prob Nogicate with my grandma so like I get a 3000 NTD discount

elfin mural
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100H and 200H intel series weren't able to sustain much performance when power limited

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so they didn't fit for handhelds

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as for laptops with active cooling? they work well in those

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very low idle as expected for intel

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amd suffers from high idle consumption

ashen swan
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yo ?

elfin mural
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they're expanding

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that's cool

ashen swan
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I'm thinking of maybe reaching out

bitter ridge
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Anime games getting pt I welcome that

unreal trail
velvet summit
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AI generated gpu

bitter ridge
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If I had known I also would have liked to be part of this blind test thing

ashen swan
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aight framework desktop where are you

bitter ridge
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Posts stuff about steam machine and then goes onto mentioning a completely different product

ashen swan
elfin mural
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valve deciding to not be windows friendly at all is a bold move to make

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i can't say it's entirely bad, but like

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a lot of people still run windows

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and a $100 controller is expected to be an excellent one that works on mainstream OSes

ashen swan
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lol

elfin mural
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the bright side still doesn't change the fact that a $100 controller doesn't support windows

ashen swan
elfin mural
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yeah, the steam controller has no windows drivers

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which is just sad

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it only works with steam games

ashen swan
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It's kinda sad their trying to focus this only on the machine

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when the machine

elfin mural
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the steam client needs to be run all the time

ashen swan
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never launches

ashen swan
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NT$3,388

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damn

elfin mural
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yeah they are for real, not supporting running outside of the steam client

ashen swan
elfin mural
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for $100 it's unacceptable imo

ashen swan
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sad considering GOG is trying to move to Linux

ashen swan
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this is kinda crazy

elfin mural
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yeah, they make bank thru running the biggest online game store

ashen swan
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Valve just has this issue of never actually giving you ownership

elfin mural
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so there's no way they don't have money

ashen swan
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their great and stupid at the same time

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but people just over glaze them cause on the surface their way better then rest of the industry

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welp I'm gonna buy the controller anyways

elfin mural
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just be prepared to live with the fact that you need to have steam running all the time

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and if you play a non-steam game, you gotta add it to steam

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so that it launches within steam

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extra steps that are honestly uncalled for when all they had to do was to implement at least xinput support

ancient swift
elfin mural
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and the controller doesn't have any of that

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it only uses steaminput

unreal trail
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Switch 2 is running FF7 Rebirth on less power draw than it takes to charge a PS5 controller

ancient swift
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Arm is magic on the low end

bitter ridge
safe cape
bitter ridge
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t239 since it was about the switch 2

elfin mural
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bruh

royal crow
unreal trail
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Switch 2 cpu is actually the consols bottleneck

velvet summit
elfin mural
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risc-v is even better, but that's like..

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even less supported and produced than arm

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so there are no cutting edge risc-v chips that is commercially available

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other than google and amazon that have developed some server chips to use in-house

grand kernel
royal crow
grand kernel
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i mean yea epic games store sucks

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i think gog galaxy is pretty good

ashen swan
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man I can't wait for Framework desktop

grand kernel
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anyway it's just weird to me how much gamers support the steam monopoly

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monopolies in general are not good

elfin mural
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^

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monopolies aren't good no matter who holds the market

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i'm not approving valve's choice to lock a controller behind their own software

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i'm fine with having to fiddle with settings on steam, but the fact that it has no support for anything but steaminput is just bad

grand kernel
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imagine the difference in reaction if apple made a $100 controller and said yeah this is for apple products and apple os only

elfin mural
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no one. none. zilch has criticized valve in their video about the lack of support for anything outside of steaminput

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when the company the average gamer likes does something weird, they don't raise a single brow

grand kernel
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definitely not nobody but it's weird that it's being defended/not being criticized more

elfin mural
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ya

grand kernel
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gamers would jump at the chance to absolutely eviscerate apple for the same thing lol

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or even microsoft if they did it with windows

elfin mural
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even the $600 neo isn't safe from that sentiment of hate

grand kernel
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or or

elfin mural
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they pretend it's like a high end product

grand kernel
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nvidia makes a $100 controller but it refuses to work if it detects non nvidia gpu in your system

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better disable that stinky intel/radeon igpu too

elfin mural
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nvidia will be bashed to hell cuz it's universally hated atp by gamers

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the same people who still buy nvidia mind you

grand kernel
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you mean universally hated by a small niche of pc hardware enthusiast redditors

elfin mural
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true

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amd just has a habit of self-immolating their market presence

grand kernel
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i mentioned 9070xt to my (very much a gamer) friend the other day and he asked

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what's 9070xt in nvidia terms

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😔

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probably more common than people who actually know what a 9070xt is

elfin mural
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in any other case

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on one hand i'm happy that the 5070 laptop gpu finally has a 12gb variant

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but i don't trust nvidia to not jack up prices by a few hundred bucks at minimum

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especially with the stupid ram prices

grand kernel
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hopefully the extra vram doesn't go to waste powering 1440p/4k screens

elfin mural
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they will

grand kernel
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sad

elfin mural
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a ton of gaming laptops with higher tier gpus are paired with 1600p these days

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that's pretty much the new minimum

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at least they're oled i guess

grand kernel
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I will die on this hill

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1080p is the optimal laptop resolution

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anything higher is a complete waste and I consider it to be a negative when considering a laptop option

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I wonder if consumers are actually demanding 1600p/4k laptop panels? or are they just assuming "bigger number better"

elfin mural
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they're just assuming bigger number better yeah

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i see it praised in a ton of reviews lol

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"look at this glorious display at 1600p!"

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especially so if it's oled

grand kernel
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pretty sure my 3070M at 1080p beats a 5070M at 1600p

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it might get close to a 5080M actually lol

elfin mural
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5070ti laptop is basically a neutered 5060ti desktop

grand kernel
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it seems 5080M is around 21k time spy

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my 3070M gets 12223

elfin mural
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Laptop 1:
Acer Predator
CPU: i7 11800H
RAM: 32GB DDR4 3200
GPU: RTX 3070 Mobile 8GB (140W)

Laptop 2:
HP OMEN 16
CPU: i7 14650HX
RAM: 32GB DDR5 5600
GPU: RTX 5070 Mobile 8GB (115W)

video chapters:
0:00 ghost of tsushima
0:30 god of war ragnarok
1:00 horizon forbidden west
1:30 assassin's creed mirage
2:00 Microsoft flight simulator
2:30 red de...

▶ Play video
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this test is 1440p with dlss

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so yeah i think the 3070m would be faster if not equal

grand kernel
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well no reason to upgrade laptop for a long time I suppose that's good

elfin mural
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if it has to run at 1080p native

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and the 5070m gets to run 1600p

grand kernel
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my 3070M is far ahead of average 3070M too

elfin mural
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yeah

grand kernel
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thanks to bios hack to keep 140W dynamic boost permanently active

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plus LM and K5 pro on the vrms + vram

safe cape
grand kernel
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good sample for oc too

elfin mural
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and yikes, this really shows how the 5070m didn't really improve all that much

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considering that it has to push a higher res screen

grand kernel
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I rarely game on laptop so there wasn't a reason to upgrade anyway but it's nice to know I'm not missing anything lol

elfin mural
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i really want a healthy upgrade from my 4050

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at least in terms of vram

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the raw perf? i'm okay with it

safe cape
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wich games doesnt work for you ?

grand kernel
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notebookcheck has the 5070 mobile beating my 3070 mobile by only 11%

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so the 5070 mobile is a straight downgrade for me if it's paired with a higher res screen

elfin mural
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every games work for me so far

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but the ones i wanna play in the future needs minimum settings due the 6 gigs buffer i have to work with

elfin mural
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let's hope that can run on 6 gigs

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if not i'll have to gather money to get a better laptop

grand kernel
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honestly

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I feel like a good use case for 1440p laptop screen is on lower end laptops like xx50 class

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game at 720p with 2x integer scaling so it still looks fine

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without the downside of how horrible 720p screen would be outside of gaming

elfin mural
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pretty much dlss with more steps

grand kernel
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think dlss still has some vram overhead though right

elfin mural
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ya

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it's not completely free

grand kernel
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if you only have 6gb just using integer scaling would be a nice option

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720p with 2x integer scaling should look acceptable on a laptop screen size

safe cape
grand kernel
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I mean 1080p on a 1440p screen looks way worse than 1080p on a 1080p screen

grand kernel
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so you'd have to go down to 720p or just use like dlss balanced or smth

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but if it's still an 8gb 5070m

elfin mural
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i want the 12gb 5070m

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i just fear that it could cost so much money anyway

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so i can't afford one regardless

grand kernel
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the weird non-integer scaling is gonna look worse

safe cape
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interesting

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i heard it was only on a 1440p 27 inch screen

elfin mural
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integer scaling is within nvidia app right?

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saw something related to that

grand kernel
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scaling each pixel up by a factor of 4/3

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i wonder if 720p on a 1440p screen looks better than 1080p on a 1440p screen at 27"

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have not tried

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I have to run 1080p on a 1440p 27" screen when I play a switch 1 game docked to my main monitor

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and it looks pretty bad

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I rarely want to use the dock anymore ever since handheld boost mode came out

safe cape
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but wich one will use more power dlss or integer scaling ?

grand kernel
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when handheld mode looks better than docked mode lol

grand kernel
safe cape
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i mean watt

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last time i used it in rocket league

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1080p to 4k on the vega 64

grand kernel
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uh

safe cape
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it was +200w

grand kernel
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most modern gpus just boost to their power limit anyway

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I wouldn't expect a significant wattage difference

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rocket league might be weird because it's a light game

safe cape
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yeah buts its a laptop

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temp is important

grand kernel
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I also wouldn't recommend integer scaling for 3d games on larger screens

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but it's easier to get away with on a small laptop screen

grand kernel
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but if you're playing a game where you're not even hitting power limit on a laptop then you probably shouldn't even be worried about squeezing performance out of upscaling

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a 1050M 4gb can just run league of legends at 4k native anyway lol

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let alone 3070M or 5070M

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now I wanna see how cyberpunk looks on my laptop at 540p with integer scaling lmao

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540p sounds cursed

safe cape
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hhhh go

safe cape
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and give us the result

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lets see who wins

grand kernel
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why 60 fps locked?

safe cape
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or 120 fps

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depends on your laptop screen

grand kernel
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I don't remember if I even get 60 fps with RT on lol

grand kernel
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but I don't really care about reaching that

safe cape
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just go 60 fps

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compare the quality and power

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wich one is worth it

grand kernel
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I don't have high hopes for 540p

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I might run into a cpu bottleneck even

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dunno

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in any case it'll be a fun experiment

safe cape
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yes

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just find the right settings for low temps and high quality/fps

grand kernel
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oh it's not installed on my laptop

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welp

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guess ill get to work while it downloads

grand kernel
elfin mural
safe cape
elfin mural
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there's really no indication that it's working since i don't see any difference at 800x600

safe cape
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then upscale it to 4k max settings 🔥 🔥

grand kernel
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would make sense

elfin mural
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let me fire up a game

grand kernel
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yeah my laptop cpu is currently at 80C just from downloading cyberpunk

grand kernel
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but hey 80C isn't bad at all for 75W sustained on a laptop cpu

plush path
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Slightly relevant video

grand kernel
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my fans aren't even maxed out

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cpu fan at 4400 rpm and gpu fan is off

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but gpu fan helps cool the cpu too cause it's a combined heatsink assembly

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it would probably be quieter if both fans were at 3000 rpm or something but I don't have fan control that granular sadly

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and I don't want to give up the ability for both fans to turn off when I take it to work lol

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i remember taking this laptop to school and my friend thought it was gonna be loud cause it's obviously a gaming laptop

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but it stayed quieter than his macbook for 3 hours

elfin mural
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oh i get it now

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integer scaling can actually be applied globally

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i just need to change my display res

grand kernel
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i can't see why you would ever want it outside of a game 💀

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ok yeah my laptop is way quieter while downloading this game if i don't allow the gpu fan to turn off

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2 fans at 2800 rpm instead of 1 fan at 4400 rpm

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oh it's also downloading windows updates at the same time lol

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no wonder i'm seeing spikes to 90W on the cpu

tacit quiver
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im bored in class somebody yap about something interesting

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how do we feel about the steam controller

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should i buy one

sinful blade
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No

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Do not buy one

plush path
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I don't think you should buy the steam controller

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It looks cheap and seems bland for the price

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If on sale for 30-50 dollars, I'd say yes

misty sparrow
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It’ll probably drop in price secondhand in a year or so

elfin mural
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it's also locked to steaminput only

misty sparrow
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I can find a steam deck for like

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$100

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and it’s an OLED

nocturne flicker
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It looks fugly, it looks a bit unergonomic to hold, locked to Steam and is expensive at $100, not recommended

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While the apparent repairability is nice, that doesn't make it instantly worth it

elfin mural
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i'll wait for the day a repairable, non software-locked controller releases

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if not i'll probably just head for gamesir and those chinese brands

olive plaza
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Real question

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Does the Steam Deck also have TMR joysticks

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or is that new to the Steam Controller

bitter ridge
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reviewers didn't mention it being locked to steam only so Ithink it will come on as a shock after they have bought it.

olive plaza
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It's not locked to Steam only

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you just have to use the software for the Steam Controller to set up profiles for non Steam games

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so it's more work than using an xbox or dualsense controller

elfin mural
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the deck? not sure

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it was only mentioned on the steam frame's controllers

olive plaza
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but due to the game profiles being a thing, you can set up macros. Between the macros and the touchpads, you can make almost any game playable

elfin mural
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TMR on the steam frame, and the controller

olive plaza
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yeah I don't think the Steam Deck has TMR sticks

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I think they're hall effect if anything

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no

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they're capacitive

elfin mural
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that's why i'm skeptical

olive plaza
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based on information they gave reviewers that's not the case, so if they're saying 1 thing and doing another, that's a problem

elfin mural
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"with anything running steam" just sounds vague

olive plaza
# elfin mural

So this wording means you must have the Steam client installed and running to use the macros and keybinds

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This is not a game requirement

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this is which physical electronic devices it works with

nocturne flicker
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If it is anything like trying to use a Dualshock 3 on PC then that is an instant no. And if it requires making a profile for every non-steam game then that is a nightmare

bitter ridge
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So someone would have to have other launchers and steam at the same time

olive plaza
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Yes you'd have to have Steam running in the background

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As you probably already do

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just saying

elfin mural
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doesn't make it any less suspicious in my eyes

olive plaza
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but having to set up profiles for individual games is ridiculous, yes

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it's a huge step backwards

bitter ridge
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No when I am playing on Ubisoft connect,epic games steam isn't running

elfin mural
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if other controllers work fine without running steam, why shouldn't this $100 one not be able to?

olive plaza
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^^^

bitter ridge
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But that is tolerable if we just have to run it in the background

olive plaza
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TMR joysticks are amazing, that's a huge plus in my book

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plus the repairability

elfin mural
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i guess we'll see when someone actually gets one outside of reviews

nocturne flicker
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Like for dualshock 3s you just had to convert the input into one that tricked the games to into detecting it as an Xbox controller using software

elfin mural
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they'll wanna test on no-steam functionality

olive plaza
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According to what I read online, if you don't have the Steam client installed at all?

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The touchpads function

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that's it

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it's seen as a mouse lmao

elfin mural
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so it's even more limited than dualshock 3's case

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that is.. annoying

olive plaza
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again

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it's sold by Valve

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of COURSE you need the Steam client

nocturne flicker
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I guess it is a good thing that it is really ugly and more expensive than normal, that way nobody'll buy it just to use it instead of any other gamepad derpyBlob

olive plaza
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Literally the reasons to get this are TMR joysticks, repairability, excellent battery life, fast response time

bitter ridge
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Looks like there is some solution from GitHub

olive plaza
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If you're the kind of person who likes repairing their own controllers when they break

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instead of buying new

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then you probably also are the kind of person who doesn't mind spending 5 minutes setting up a game profile js

worn wave
# olive plaza it's seen as a mouse lmao

Tbf this is probably a windows limitation. The idea of having touchpads on a controller is basically exclusive to valve afaik so games aren't gonna understand controller sticks + touchpads without some sort of compatability layer (which is what the steam client as acting as)

elfin mural
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i'll respectfully let others enjoy or recommend the steam controller

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but me personally? if they ask me, i would say no

olive plaza
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oh I'm 100% not buying one

nocturne flicker
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They should make a slimmer version without the touchpads pepehmmm

bitter ridge
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It would lose it's unique factor in that case

nocturne flicker
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'Unique'

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Stares at the Dualsense

elfin mural
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repairability to me is half the story, the hardware itself has to not be locked down for me to be comfortable fully supporting a product, or at least still support it but work with the limitations begrudgingly

worn wave
#

I really think calling it locked down is silly unless there's solid evidence that it truely is

elfin mural
#

maybe im a bit dramatic, but i'll see further evidence later

#

i'm willing to change my mind if the truth is proven otherwise

olive plaza
#

I'm 99.9% sure it will wind up working with everything

#

and the speed with which that will happen is probably going to be ... a week?

#

GlosSI already works with it

#

and the controller isn't out yet

#

once the controller releases... it'll happen quickly

#

I have no doubt

elfin mural
#

i just have been pretty cynical with the state of things lately

#

anyway, i looked into glossi, it got superseded by sisr

#

which in itself is not a bad thing

#

just means the project moved to another repo

#

i suppose there's that piece of software that would solve my biggest and only gripe with the steaminput thing

#

yeah, i can see the repairability and the rest of the controller being worth it with this stuff available publicly

#

just note that it's experimental software

sinful blade
#

@elfin mural I finally got into the setup utility

elfin mural
#

oh, you got the setup utility to actually work?

sinful blade
#

Yeah
On that Toshiba

#

Now I need to find a way to reset it

elfin mural
#

are you trying to retain all the factory software?

sinful blade
#

Nah
I just want it full reset
I have win10 on a usb

elfin mural
#

Get into the bios and set your boot order

#

Make sure to put the usb drive as the top option to boot

sinful blade
#

What button would that be on this laptop? Im not familiar with laptops

elfin mural
# sinful blade

You can actually access the bios with the uefi firmware settings in winRE, which you're currently in as shown in this screenshot

#

The key is usually F2, Del or any other F row keys to get into the bios for laptops

#

Or you can access it thru winRE like I mentioned

velvet summit
#

on a completely random note, why do so many laptops not have a delete key i recently noticed

#

moderately annoying

elfin mural
#

They're usually the same key as insert

#

My laptop does that

sinful blade
#

This one’s key is slightly larger than the rest of the top row

It doesn’t even have an f row lmao

elfin mural
#

Huh..

#

It doesn't?

sinful blade
elfin mural
#

Oh my god

#

This is weird as hell

#

It's likely either the F row but they chose to not mark em as such, or that they're actually multimedia keys

#

Just go into the bios thru winRE at this point

#

Hold shift while clicking restart and all that

sinful blade
elfin mural
#

Looks good

#

OK then save and exit

sinful blade
#

Im gonna Kermit

elfin mural
#

oh god

#

have you booted into the usb successfully?

sinful blade
#

It never asked another option. just kept going into the Home Screen here.

elfin mural
#

bruh

#

try swapping ports around

#

plug the usb drive in other usb ports

#

some laptops can be very particular about the port they actually want to use to boot

sinful blade
#

Putting it in the only left side port

elfin mural
#

i dug a bit, so the bios key for toshiba laptops is f2, but you hold it down as the laptop turns on after you turn it on

#

should be the brightness up key

#

the little sun with an up arrow key

#

if that doesn't work, f12 is the key for boot menu

#

or the bios itself even, laptops be like dat

sinful blade
#

Brightness up key did not work

elfin mural
#

try the wireless network key

#

it looks like an antenna

sinful blade
#

NEW SCREEN

#

WOOOO

olive plaza
#

new screen?

sinful blade
#

This laptop has been giving me issues for a few days trying to reset it lmao

#

@elfin mural what now

olive plaza
#

I'm just surprised/impressed you're putting all this work into a Toshiba when they stopped producing laptops aroudn 2015

elfin mural
#

select the usb option

elfin mural
#

then enter setup

#

i think this is the key

olive plaza
#

If it's getting donated, why not throw Mint at it

elfin mural
#

toshiba laptops are surprising me with their weirdness

olive plaza
#

instead of giving it Windows 10 with very little update life if any

sinful blade
olive plaza
#

what happens when you select USB as the boot device

#

it just doesn't boot from it?

elfin mural
sinful blade
#

Yup

I have windows 10 on it, correctly formatted to fat32

elfin mural
#

the laptop doesn't seem to be detecting it, which is odd

olive plaza
#

No, it's definitely detecting it

#

USB wouldn't show up as a boot option otherwise

elfin mural
#

but it doesn't boot into it

olive plaza
#

Do you have any other flashdrives

sinful blade
#

AHAHGAHAH
I GOT TO ANOTHER SCREEN

#

By using HDD recovery on that screen

olive plaza
#

First of all, there's a solid chance that some of the USB ports on this machine are 2.0 and others are 3.0. Use the 2.0

#

unless they're all 3.0

sinful blade
olive plaza
#

Second of all use the oldest and crappiest flashdrive you have

elfin mural
#

the bios doesn't seem to say that the usb drive is bootable

#

it does see the drive, but doesn't see it as bootable

olive plaza
#

how are you creating the Win10 drive

#

with rufus?

elfin mural
#

hold on a minute..

#

is csm enabled or disabled?

#

or legacy mode

sinful blade
#

Hold

elfin mural
#

or uefi mode

olive plaza
#

alright I'm getting back to work

#

good luck everybody

sinful blade
#

Im getting two older MacBooks today so I’m probably gonna be here with some more Laptop problems lmao

elfin mural
#

fun

sinful blade
#

TPM and secure boot are both on

elfin mural
#

turn em off

#

that could effect things and be the reason why we are stuck rn

sinful blade
#

Save an exit?

elfin mural
#

yeah

sinful blade
#

It got slightly mad at that and quick shut off lmao
Waiting

elfin mural
#

oop

rancid juniper
#

what

#

i only attached 5 pics WHAT?

elfin mural
#

bot got mad

sinful blade
#

Asked me to setup that guy’s pin

elfin mural
#

dammit

sinful blade
elfin mural
#

load up linux on that usb drive and wipe the drives

rancid juniper
#

welp

elfin mural
#

so you are able to get into windows setup right?

#

but it's asking for a pin

sinful blade
elfin mural
#

it didn't even get into windows setup?

sinful blade
#

Nope

elfin mural
#

set up the pin, see if that works somehow

sinful blade
#

Requires a sign in

elfin mural
#

hmmm

#

let me go take care of something then i'll be back to look at this

rancid juniper
#

This game has pathtracing but it isn't available to AMD cards including RDNA 4 lol
Game: Neverness To Everness
Engine: UE5
Price: Free (Gacha ah software)

FSR 4 upscaling doesn't work but managed to get ML Framegen to function
Another game limiting graphics features to Nvidia smh

sinful blade
elfin mural
#

maybe

#

though i have an idea

#

winRE command prompt

#

you can create a new user with admin rights

#

the idea popped up in my mind

#

the command to create a new user is "net user Username Password /add"

#

and the command to add admin rights to your newly created user is "net localgroup administrators Username /add"

#

just replace Username and/or Password with anything you wanna set

#

password is optional

#

don't copy the quotes

sinful blade
#

Windows install was borked

rancid juniper
sinful blade
#

@elfin mural

safe cape
rancid juniper
elfin mural
#

oh yay

elfin mural
#

that is all you need

rancid juniper
#

what in the silent hill?

elfin mural
#

the rest is kept or deleted if ya want

sinful blade
#

What else?

elfin mural
#

windows will just create em again

sinful blade
#

Where should I reinstall windows?

misty sparrow
sinful blade
#

Partition 3?

elfin mural
#

nothing really, once it's formatted, continue on. install in partition 3

#

yes

rancid juniper
sinful blade
misty sparrow
sinful blade
rancid juniper
#

Goated chat

#

what is this? A Fatal Frame?

elfin mural
#

they got the whole village evil in resident evil village

velvet summit
#

hello is this the resident of evil

#

hello, is this the devil that might cry

elfin mural
#

is the floor the killing floor

rancid juniper
#

hmm good question

safe cape
#

so i can try it

#

👍

rancid juniper
safe cape
#

after 1000 hrs of grind kekw

#

XD

rancid juniper
#

Ahhhhhhhhh

misty sparrow
#

so does that mean they're not gonna buy ram for it?

#

i wonder if the price is gonna go down now

rancid juniper
#

city looks nice

safe cape
#

are bikes faster than cars ? kekw

rancid juniper
#

i have a feeling you can

rancid juniper
#

heh

#

oh yea you can climb any wall, what in the spooder-man?

elfin mural
safe cape
#

so saints row 4

misty sparrow
rancid juniper
elfin mural
#

idk honestly

#

but i hope that's the case

rancid juniper
#

might be GOTY gacha game i dunno

elfin mural
#

but if openai rents, the providers could just buy more ram

#

so it's hard to predict what will actually happen now that openai pulled back

rancid juniper
#

last pic

#

i lied

royal crow
rancid juniper
royal crow
#

I might look into it once I get tired of endfield

#

Which I've been really enjoying

tranquil pebble
rancid juniper
#

Free UE5 gacha game

rancid juniper
royal crow
tranquil pebble
#

oh its gacha no thanks lol

royal crow
#

+open world +interesting combat

safe cape
#

no just give me fh6

rancid juniper
#

FH6 came early

proud jackal
#

Should I start gaming again

rancid juniper
tranquil pebble
#

gachas always pull the same crap eventually

rancid juniper
#

Yep

#

Being a F2P player makes it harder to enjoy them in the long run

worn night
#

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tranquil pebble
#

and they generally shut down after a while too

#

so even if you pay you end up regretting it

rancid juniper
#

I wonder if they're exempt from the stop killing games stuff

#

🤔

tranquil pebble
#

which is why I noped out of P5X

rancid juniper
#

I legit lost interest in like 3 days

#

And seeing that size of P5X on PC was an immediate nope

tranquil pebble
#

its slop

#

and not a real Persona game

rancid juniper
#

Fact, and you know what should be real right now? Persona 6. Where TF is that game 😭

tranquil pebble
#

ikr

#

or even news about Persona 4 Revival

rancid juniper
#

It's been nearly 10 years atlus released that game

rancid juniper
tranquil pebble
#

it was response to a leak

rancid juniper
#

Tbh, they should've kept silent and not care

dusk knot
#

ladies

tranquil pebble
#

P5R had been leaked too but it was already far enough in development that it didn't matter lol

rancid juniper
dusk knot
#

just saying hi

rancid juniper
dusk knot
#

always

rancid juniper
#

Good

rancid juniper
#

Default run cycle and everything

tranquil pebble
#

Well with how much they have milked P5, there should be no funding shortage

rancid juniper
#

P5 isn't complete because there's no P5 Kart or P5 Arena

#

Failure of an IP smh

tranquil pebble
#

P5 protag is in Sonic racing pretty sure

rancid juniper
#

A protag that can't even say a couple lines

tranquil pebble
#

P5R is the first time I have seen REAL mouse and kb support in a JRPG ngl

rancid juniper
#

Atlus making technological advancements in the JRPG genre??

#

😲

bitter ridge
#

Twitter is such a bad place to compare visuals most people should stop doing it there

proud jackal
rancid juniper
#

Your character can't swim?
Bad game
Can't see facial pores?
Bad game
Can't see NPC doing work 9000 ft away from you?
BAD GAME

nocturne flicker
#

It just means OpenAI won't be the one buying the ram

olive plaza
#

heh. gas prices just jumped by 30c in my area overnight

#

Neat™

nocturne flicker
#

It'll go up more

olive plaza
#

oh I'm fully aware lol

#

we have one chain of gas stations in my area that's currently 50c above the new standard price

#

so they went up 80c

#

everybody else went up 30

#

probably gonna top off my car after work. before all of them hit that 80c jump

#

I don't drive much thankfully

nocturne flicker
#

WTI is up 7.2% today alone, that has a lag effect. That 30c increase is due to the jump to $95 per barrel that went up to $100 yesterday and is now $107

olive plaza
#

It's strange because prices in my area have stagnated for weeks

nocturne flicker
#

Yes

#

Because there was a period in which oil was going down and plateauing

olive plaza
#

makes sense

#

We have two cars. One electric and one gas

#

I drive the electric one when my wife isn't using the car that day. But when she's driving our daughter to school, she takes the electric. Idling in the pickup and dropoff lines for 15-20 min at a time in an EV takes almost nothing

#

meanwhile my commute to work is only about 3 miles

#

if my eBike's battery hadn't died I'd be using that

nocturne flicker
#

That bit in the middle resulted in stagnant prices with minor decreases

olive plaza
#

makes sense. it never really dropped here

#

we're headed for new record pricing in my area rn

#

if they all hit that same 80c jump the one chain did, it'll be a new record high

#

easily

sinful blade
#

Windows finally installed
Downloading a lot of updates for it

worn night
#

ВСЕ ОСТАЛЬНЫЕ СИСТЕМЫ ПОДЧИНЯТСЯ ПЕРВОМУ ПРИКАЗУ

olive plaza
#

Um

worn night
#

Oh

#

Whoops

olive plaza
#

Da

worn night
#

auto translater

worn night
olive plaza
#

No it doesn't

#

It says ВСЕ ОСТАЛЬНЫЕ СИСТЕМЫ ПОДЧИНЯТСЯ ПЕРВОМУ ПРИКАЗУ

worn night
#

C'est drôle

#

Moderatoriai pasigailėk.

#

Tsy hanozona aho

olive plaza
#

Bueno

olive plaza
#

Nice knowing you

dusk knot
sinful blade
#

@olive plaza @elfin mural theres so many

olive plaza
#

That's standard

worn night
#

Ayo calm down bro

sinful blade
#

This resolution is gross
1366x768

worn night
tranquil pebble
sinful blade
tranquil pebble
#

1366x768 was common in 06

#

I saw plenty of "vista ready" laptops with it

sinful blade
#

I got this laptop almost ready for donation

#

Just needs updates

#

I gotta go get two Mac books soon

outer urchin
#

any tips for installing a gpu after everything else has been set up

olive plaza
#

idk what you're looking for here lol

outer urchin
nocturne flicker
#

Depress the pcie lane socket lever. Remove slot covers for how many slots your card'll need starting with the one directly next to your chosen pcie lane (preferably the top lane). Take gpu, slowly guide the bottom of the gpu into the slot (the part with the yellow bit extending down from the gpu). Push into the slot until you hear the pcie lane lever click

#

Screw the retention bracket into the case

#

Plug in gpu with pcie cables

nocturne flicker
#

Breakdown crying when your PSU explodes because you bought the $35 bomb Saint polled us about

sinful blade
#

I need a MacBook Pro model a1398 chargerforwardfacingpepe

craggy shoal
#

@thorn glade do you have any books about birds? If not, can you suggest some?

pseudo raven
#

He is the book

rancid juniper
#

mmm carb

#

i need

#

elite tier gacha game?

#

@safe cape you can infact drive

#

crap i spammed the chat with unnecessary game pic

icy ore
dusk knot
#

@rancid juniper

rancid juniper
#

yea ik

dusk knot
worn night
dusk knot
#

Lol. Perfect

sinful blade
#

That episode was messed tf up

icy ore
#

Dang, never watched it

nocturne flicker
misty sparrow
#

beat dead space 2 and saw this in the credits, took him three years to get a GF

sinful blade
sinful blade
rancid juniper
sinful blade
#

@outer urchin in order to cut down on bot spam, only 3 images at a time till I can find a work around

sinful blade
#

Ah

royal crow
#

My dad's laptop is thermal throttling... turns out the paste job is crap

swift merlin
#

Experienced pc users what’s your opinions on snappy driver installer (not snappy driver installer origin)

heady plinth
#

Any sort of automatic driver installer is garbage.

wise wigeon
#

I hate how insane I am

#

I was doing a fresh install of windows recently and I’ve just been neurotic about everything

#

Reinstalled windows twice over minor issues and started worrying about corrupted drivers so I installed windows again but this time I had my brother with me to keep me in line

#

Instead of having all the preprepped drivers I just downloaded the WiFi drivers and let windows do its work

sinful blade
wise wigeon
#

Well this time, I had preprepped ones before

#

Honestly it did a not bad job

#

Obviously it didn’t install Adrenalin

#

But it got chipset, gpu, and most of my Realtek drivers in

#

Odd thing is it missed out on my Realtek BT drivers

bitter ridge
wise wigeon
#

And while it’s not the most up to date gpu drivers it’s like late December 2025 AMD drivers

velvet summit
wise wigeon
#

Jeez that thing looks like dried clay

rancid furnace
#

Do you guys have a help channel

#

I got given a pc and it’s trying to post but won’t.

worn wave
#

You have to chat a bit and level up before sending photos

#

Or you can use something like imgur to get around that

wise wigeon
#

Hmm it’s been a lil while since I even had to deal with this because last few reinstalls I’ve had the software pre-prepped or had different hardware with slightly different processes

#

You guys do the full fat and drivers you manually search for or the auto detect?

#

Amd*

#

Because I usually install with the full size gpu drivers but since with this install windows pretty quickly installed gpu and chipset drivers once I got online

#

I was questioning whether I use the auto detect one since I figure it’ll grab me the latest chipset drivers if the windows ones weren’t the latest

elfin mural
#

i use auto detect when i don't feel like dealing with it

rancid furnace
wise wigeon
#

I’m assuming it’s doing what DDU does so you get a clean install, but I’ve also read that it borked windows installs in the past

elfin mural
#

Used it, but it is said to worsen issues

#

DDU does a better cleanup job

wise wigeon
#

Man my recent development of paranoia over stuff I used to not stress over is annoying

elfin mural
#

I just enable full memory dump if I ever get a BSOD that is piquing my suspicion, and install whocrashed

wise wigeon
#

Like I used to just do stuff and troubleshoot when it doesn’t work, but my obsession with perfection is straight up ruining my sanity

elfin mural
#

But my issues honestly are inconsistent as hell

#

Some months the nvidia drivers crash

#

And another month, the amd drivers crash lmao

#

My laptop has been acting weird

wise wigeon
#

Well I’m no longer as tech oriented as I use to be

#

Think I just run the auto detect installer and do a default install?

elfin mural
#

Yeah

#

That should work

#

These things just detect your hardware IDs

#

Then find the correct drivers

wise wigeon
#

My only worry is that the windows installed drivers

#

But I guess if I do it and run into no problems I’m good and if I do run into problems I bust out ddu or the AMD removal tool

elfin mural
#

If the auto detect tool finds a newer version, it will install the newer version on top of it

wise wigeon
#

I would like to think that AMD accounts for people still not being quite tech literate

#

And honestly I’m at the stage of my life where I’m not keeping up on tech outside of news on new gen stuff

#

My grad program has increasingly worsened my chase for perfection over time

#

How is chat generally nowadays

#

I only sporadically check the wegg discord and last time I did it was pre ramageddon

pliant berry
#

Perfection is a myth

wise wigeon
#

Yeah that’s why I hate that my mind chases it

#

I’ve seriously thought about getting tested for OCD because I have a lot of the symptoms but since I’m studying for the medical field I know what OCD treatment entails

#

And generally treatment entails either time heavy nonpharm therapy or heavy doses of antidepressants

pliant berry
#

Ehh im pretty sure if you look close enough there isn’t a mentally sane person on the planet. All depends on how you manage it

wise wigeon
#

Usually a mix of both

#

Oh sure

#

Ain’t nobody “normal”

#

Subjective as heck

#

But I on average wash my hands 20-30 times a day, have a specific method of locking and checking my door lock, and constantly use virustotal to check links and downloads for most things

pliant berry
#

Though i will say it is pretty depressing seeing some people i know with pretty bad problems exaggerated 10x by technology

wise wigeon
#

It’s not like I even have particular trauma regarding sketchy files in the past

#

I got phished once as a 14 year old and valve restored my inventory

#

Otherwise I’ve been pretty clean

pliant berry
#

Can never be too careful

unreal trail
#

💀

wise wigeon
#

I think it’s partially due to the fact I handle more sensitive data that I’ve become more obsessive

#

Well

#

Didn’t realize that was a banned word

pliant berry
#

I’ve refused giving to receiving info with clients or employers because I considered it insecure in the past

wise wigeon
#

But what my message was that I accidentally clicked an email today and freaked out

pliant berry
wise wigeon
#

Didn’t click a file or link just accidentally clicked it

pliant berry
#

I was not aware of this either haha

wise wigeon
#

I figure the second one

#

iOS adding a spaced probably got that message sent to the shadow realm

pliant berry
#

Possibly

#

ios is looking out for you

wise wigeon
#

But yeah like I accidentally clicked a email for what I later found out was from parchment

#

Just the usual oh you can print this out email

#

But because it was a external email I freaked

nocturne flicker
#

ios is looking for you

#

👀

wise wigeon
#

But even that doesn’t save me because I freaked out from an email that I clicked via notification because it a verification thing and was from a uni email address

#

And I didn’t click any links or nothing but when I clicked off it got sent straight to quarantine by outlook

#

So I assume it was a scam email

#

Honestly I had just woken up from a nap and was groggy as hell

#

But yeah I get a little freaked over pretty innocuous things

#

If you saw me downloading discord and steam after a fresh install you would have an aneurysm

#

Like Monday I was cleaning my pc and I was fine with it but today I passed by a short about not using air to clean and now it’s making me wanna check my pc

#

Didn’t even use compressed air, just used a electronics air duster

#

Which I mean made my gpu a lil warm but I was holding down the fans and manually allowing blade rotation because this wasn’t a completely deep clean since I didn’t feel like taking my gpu out

#

Now randomly seeing a short about air cleaning a pc borking a gpu has a part of my brain convinced I blew a capacitor off

#

TLDR I should be diagnosed as clinically insane

#

Has any of the usuals here had to actually deal with the memory price hikes?

elfin mural
#

yes

#

more cores

#

and gaming perf is not to be scoffed at

wise wigeon
#

Probably not beating out the 7800x3d but this is the new intel chips right?

#

Iirc they were matching non x3d am5

elfin mural
#

it only really loses to 9800x3d in the refresh

wise wigeon
#

Oh really

elfin mural
#

you're thinking of the pre refresh

wise wigeon
#

So it even beats out a 7800x3d? The perf margin was pretty small between that and the 9800x3d

elfin mural
#

270k plus is basically a 285k

#

you get core ultra 9's specs for ultra 7 price

wise wigeon
#

Ain’t the 270k like only $300 alone too?

elfin mural
#

yeah, just that the whole ram pricing issue ruins the value proposition

#

bundles like these are nice

wise wigeon
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Ram pricing ruins everything

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Feel like only prebuilt a are still polish prices outside of bundles

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Okish*

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prebuilts will get more expensive later im afraid

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Yeah once they run through supply

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laptops are already hit with the price hikes

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Hopefully prices tank by then

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Honestly unless you need a gaming laptop or windows

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Real hard to beat a MacBook rn

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m4 air is easily below a grand

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Especially with the air having 16gb and 512 starting

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and that already does everything fast enough

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m5 air is like 1099

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Does student pricing not just knock $100 off?

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yeah

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then it's 999 flat for students and teachers

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1k for an m5 air is solid

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Very overpowered for an air but 16/ 512 being base is solid now

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Apple been doing good stuff recently

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Base 17 had me update from my 11

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well they are literally worth trillions, so ye

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they have the supply chain

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that and aggressive vertical integration

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And they are just willing to pay for the allocation

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and most likely taking less profit margins overall to try and keep prices from exploding

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Being worth trillions outside of ai bubble speculation is a nice security

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because all windows vendors have seen price explosions

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They can eat it to get more users to get them paying for subs

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Like iCloud is great and cheap

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they're pushing another subscription service too

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apple+ or smth

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And I generally trust Apple security a bit more despite some leaks in the past

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it's a suite of software

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They have a lot of subs

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kinda like adobe

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Ooooh

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The creator suite

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The Final Cut stuff

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Iirc wasn’t it like relatively reasonable priced

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for simple school usages, even a macbook neo will do

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base 8/256 is alright for $600

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Yeah and honestly the throttling ain’t gonna affect most users