general-chat

[storm narwhal]

Someone needs to get their head on straight and double down on native performance

[wise wigeon]

Where are you getting a 4080 lol

[rancid juniper]

If only games haven't performed so terribly often it wouldn't be pushed as much

But yet here we are

[storm narwhal]

Iunno

I haven't been looking at availability like

[wise wigeon]

It’s been gone for months

[storm narwhal]

That's cause of nvidia pushing dlss to be the future of everything

Instead of an assistive tool

They convinced everyone it's the only way forward

[open knoll]

they say the 4080 is like the 5070ti performance

[wise wigeon]

Other way around but yes

[rancid juniper]

When that upscaler is now a requirement...

☠️

[wise wigeon]

Sometimes the ti wins something’s the 80 wins

[storm narwhal]

And that's the consequences

[wise wigeon]

Dlss is good but devs took that as an out

[storm narwhal]

Basically they're exactly the same thing

[storm narwhal]

Because of nvidia constantly enforcing the idea it was the future of all gaming

I don't blame the devs entirely

[rancid juniper]

Just like how people use AI as a crutch in their studies, developers use it the same way to cut off some slack

If anything, ai is legit killing knowledge/experience

[wise wigeon]

If you can get the ti for like 800 or under it’s probably fine

[storm narwhal]

Like hell you'd find that anywhere though

[balmy solstice]

isnt the msrp going up

[rancid juniper]

😳

Wild if it is

[wise wigeon]

It was on best buy for like 2 minutes then poof

[rancid juniper]

Bot moment

[storm narwhal]

Remember what Mr Jensen once said

[wise wigeon]

First time I e even seen the option for ship to my local store

[storm narwhal]

The more you buy, the more you save

[open knoll]

amazon and bestbuy gets botted harder than newegg

[balmy solstice]

💸 💰 🤑

[storm narwhal]

Everything is getting botted

[wise wigeon]

Wegg saves their stock for combo deals

[storm narwhal]

Feed off of the inane hype around a bad overpriced product

[balmy solstice]

waiting for eggy to drop normal 5080 stock

[rancid juniper]

Lmfao

[open knoll]

never 😂

[balmy solstice]

let me cope

[river mauve]

how long do you think it will take realistically for places to restock the 5070ti

[balmy solstice]

a month

[storm narwhal]

A long time

I'm guessing 2-3 months

[wise wigeon]

Eh

[rancid juniper]

Obviously the same thing is gonna happen to AMD no matter how much stock it gets, if they're lucky with inventory maybe prices will stay firm but I know there's going to be an insane markup even if their starting MSRP is low (which I doubt)

[balmy solstice]

it's about to be a month for the 5090

[wise wigeon]

Most micro centers had like 100+

[balmy solstice]

[rancid juniper]

$1000 5070ti

Wanna buy?

[wise wigeon]

Honestly better off check there one on the way to something over fighting bots for it

[balmy solstice]

wish we could just pre order them

[storm narwhal]

Bots

[balmy solstice]

and they send to people when they have stock

[rancid juniper]

You'd still be facing the same problem

[wise wigeon]

You think they’d let you preorder the cheap models?

[rancid juniper]

Lol

[balmy solstice]

[wise wigeon]

Look it’s not just Nvidia

Nvidia doesn’t even have a fe

[rancid juniper]

Which is wild

[storm narwhal]

Bots bots bots

Its stupid but

[wise wigeon]

So they make the same money from every aib model

[storm narwhal]

Can't avoid it

[rancid juniper]

Like they screwed up so hard their FE models for 5070ti and below stopped existing out of cringe

[wise wigeon]

Every card manu is skyrocketing the price higher

Technically Nvidia has manus have at least one msrp model

If they didn’t we would never see one

Other than maybe pny or like inno3d

[rancid juniper]

Almost forgot about inno3d dayum

[wise wigeon]

But the big manufacturers obviously want way more margin

[river mauve]

does anyone like newegg amazon or bestbuy do like a 2nd small drop throughout the day i knwo thats happened in the past?

[wise wigeon]

$750 for a 70 ti is already bad I’ll admit that

But I feel like people don’t give card manus enough crap

[balmy solstice]

random

newegg might send on their x page tho

not recently

[wise wigeon]

Because they’re the ones behind the over msrp prices

[balmy solstice]

be careful gang

[wise wigeon]

Asus was what trying to launch a 900 dollar prime before jay called it out?

[balmy solstice]

we are in egg territory

[rancid juniper]

That's true, but it's easier to blame the top dogs than their underlings

[wise wigeon]

And in some ways that’s fair obviously a company wants to make money and the margins with Nvidia are slim

[rancid juniper]

Wegg Turf

[rancid juniper]

Yep, if anything some of the board partners don't really like their practices (hence why EVGA left)

Something something competing against them

[wise wigeon]

But they make just enough money for it to still be lucrative

[rancid juniper]

😔

[wise wigeon]

And it’s not like AMD is any better

[rancid juniper]

Yea

None of these companies are your friend, keep that in mind for any other company out there

[balmy solstice]

even with zotac doing 5090 voucher giveaways, they are still overpriced asf

[wise wigeon]

People online love to love bomb AMD but they’re just another corpo

[rancid juniper]

Voucher... Giveaway???

[pliant berry]

They are having the time of their life rn since they are finally in the spotlight

[wise wigeon]

Finally?

[balmy solstice]

pfff you thought they were free??

[rancid juniper]

Planning to make another fumble

This is AMD's greatest power move

[wise wigeon]

This is like the lowest point Radeon has been at for like years

[balmy solstice]

they do pre built giveaways too that are $500 over msrp

[rancid juniper]

Lol no, the giveaway part tho is hilarious

[pliant berry]

Well on a global scale. A lot of eyes from governments and investors are watching now

[wise wigeon]

I guess

Ai investors looking for some deep seek gpus for hopefully cheaper

[balmy solstice]

fr 😭 "win the chance to give me your rent money"

[pliant berry]

This is why intel will save us, they are losing enterprise market, consumer cpu and gpu markets. They will give us competitive cards

[rancid juniper]

I hate monopolies
I hate monopolies
I hate monopolies

[rancid juniper]

[wise wigeon]

They have to make competitive or they die

[pliant berry]

[rancid juniper]

I kid you not they'll make the most garbage GPU with a 2% performance jump and people will still eat up that SLOP (Nvidia)

ok

[wise wigeon]

Not intel

[rancid juniper]

They can kick back and not worry

[wise wigeon]

Too many current problems for people to overlook

[balmy solstice]

nah, rn intel has cpu.......I mean new gpu...........Intel has a company that does stuff

[rancid juniper]

Obv they're in the red zone

[pliant berry]

Lmao

[wise wigeon]

I mean they’re losing ground but I think they still have ok market share in cpus

[rancid juniper]

Legit dying to ryzen

[wise wigeon]

It’s not 90/10 like Nvidia and AMD

[rancid juniper]

Heh

[wise wigeon]

And self inflicted wounds

[rancid juniper]

Honestly impressive they can do that

[pliant berry]

Its ok, but quickly dwindling

[wise wigeon]

They still have decent share over mobile ie laptops

[rancid juniper]

Intel arc series so far
-Low inventory
-Drivers are still meh
-no reports on top end or low end

[wise wigeon]

Driver overhead

[rancid juniper]

Yes that too

[wise wigeon]

Gpu being massive for the performance it gives

[pliant berry]

You do also have to consider how far they have come in just a short time, at least compared to amd

[rancid juniper]

This tech gen

"The battle of mid"

[wise wigeon]

Like to get competitive performance with high end they’d need gpus the size of the pre 4090 release memes

[rancid juniper]

Lmao

[wise wigeon]

Theyd need a gpu this size to reach like 5090 levels

It’s just really not compact enough

Anyway that’s enough tries for me

[rancid juniper]

True

[wise wigeon]

I sleep

[rancid juniper]

Real

[pliant berry]

Weak

[wise wigeon]

Eh I have class in three hours

[pliant berry]

https://tenor.com/view/pathetic-pathetique-pathetox-cat-gif-17249104

[wise wigeon]

Plus I signed up for that Nvidia selection thing

If I get a chance I will

[balmy solstice]

nvidia selection?

[wise wigeon]

If I don’t I’ll stick to cycle and hope the nitro plus is good

https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/s/q15CB4YOPp

It’s like the ps5 sign up thing

[rancid juniper]

https://youtu.be/pUrr2dAHimM?si=Lam98tjBPn-7F3pp

[wise wigeon]

Sign up and they might email you with an opportunity to buy a 5080 or 5090

First set of emails goes out next week

Fed only of course

FE*

[balmy solstice]

w mans

fe is all i need

[wise wigeon]

So if you get it it’s msrp

If not oh well

[balmy solstice]

I hope

[wise wigeon]

Doesn’t hurt to try

[pliant berry]

That reminds me, I feel like I should probably get a gpu for my server at some point

[balmy solstice]

if I get it, imma need to sell my 7900xt tho

[wise wigeon]

Better than constant rat race stock checking

[balmy solstice]

got it fresh from the box last year

[wise wigeon]

Well I gotta sent back my xtx

[balmy solstice]

wanna help me break my 7900xt so my insurance reimburses me for its msrp

[topaz crown]

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[wise wigeon]

It’s functional but well the box came in like it got drop kicked and the ip shield was bent

[balmy solstice]

damn

[wise wigeon]

So I didn’t notice because when I was test I was using hdmi

The bend in the ip shield was small and straightens when screwed

[balmy solstice]

support can mail you a new one. it'll be there next christmas

[wise wigeon]

But looks like it messed up my dps

All three of them

[balmy solstice]

it really did

is it still within warranty?

[wise wigeon]

And like the port functions but it takes some work to get em in and out

Oh yeah

I got it Monday

[balmy solstice]

micro center does free repairs for in-warranty stuff

[sinful blade]

What would you guys say is a solid used/refurb $180 gpu?

[wise wigeon]

Thing is I have a nitro plus on Amazon lined up

Because I didn’t totally trust Best Buy to not cancel my order

Instead they gave me this

A damaged but functional card

[storm narwhal]

Well, not entirely their fault

Dropkicking a GPU halfway across a football field might do that

[wise wigeon]

I mean realistically it’s manu issue

[balmy solstice]

thats why I got a po box

[wise wigeon]

Uh but they did just slap a label to the og box and just gave it to ups

So

[storm narwhal]

Isn't it the same with a po box anyway

[wise wigeon]

Not entirely not their fault

[mental yoke]

How do I get the index.html as my save as option

[balmy solstice]

nah cuz if it's damaged when they recieve it, you can blame it on them :)

[storm narwhal]

They definitely used it as some sort of projectile

[wise wigeon]

So I would say not entirely their fault

But it didn’t help

The gpu is well padded so likely was a manufacturer issue

[storm narwhal]

If this helped I would probably just die

[wise wigeon]

But the inner box was a bit dented and creased too

So I won’t eliminate the possibility the handling didn’t do something

[sinful blade]

@storm narwhal

[wise wigeon]

It’s better to list your options

Not everyone knows what your local used market is

Because online used/refurbished is just too crazy rn

[sinful blade]

Going by eBay.

[wise wigeon]

It’s a rough time out there

Anyway I sleep

[worn wave]

6600xt/6650xt maybe?

[balmy solstice]

goodnight

[sinful blade]

What I was thinkin

[frigid stag]

You can probably find better like a 6700xt

[worn wave]

Not for $180 I don't think

[craggy shoal]

5700 XT if you don't care for features. "What features?" Honestly idk but that thing was released in 2019

[lost glen]

5070 ti are not available at all in the middle east region i hope one day a Solar Storm hits our planet but for good this time, especially our beloved America. 🙂

[velvet summit]

lmao

[balmy solstice]

2019 was a filler year ngl

[frigid stag]

Skill issue

Was a great year

[worn wave]

"I can't get a gpu so I hope a solar storm kills us all" is crazy

[rough zinc]

Skill issue

Just get a gpu about it

[still sun]

What are you upgrading from?

Or maybe you would prefer a non american help you? Sorry.

[open knoll]

meh hes just mad he wasnt born in the greatest country

[still sun]

True

[balmy solstice]

nah it was filler before the covid arc

[opaque sedge]

A person from the middle east wishing a solar storm catastrophe to hit america is…. 💀

[dense locust]

You know you what I i hope an emp wipes out our technological devices
At least for the people who paid $1400+ for a 5070ti

[frigid stag]

https://tenor.com/view/sounds-like-a-personal-problem-to-me-gary-marshall-borders-sistas-seems-like-it's-a-you-problem-s7e21-gif-7339631309467028371

[mental yoke]

Can anyone help me why my index.html file save as isn't showing

[topaz crown]

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[mental yoke]

Oof

[icy ore]

[sinful blade]

#windows-ios

[unreal trail]

Lhsbomb listening to beatboxing shorts

[mental yoke]

Thank you

I didn't know that was a channel

[unreal trail]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/256207996005122050/1342158987503861781/IMG_3897.png?ex=67b89e76&is=67b74cf6&hm=f3e17cf73990f174f5bbc0b9e176e1698d457d1a0a8f5ca2ff15a5c6f26f6c8f&

[opaque sedge]

Wishing i had a soda rn

[fresh timber]

Stop using vpn

[velvet summit]

is a asus prime b550m-k able to handle a 5950x
the vrms look like they'll die lmao

supposedly it "officially supports" it but idk if i believe that

[surreal comet]

Anyone got a recommendation for a larger mousemat

Like

45 inches or so

Preferably higher quality obviously

[balmy solstice]

use a desk that's an entire mat

[surreal comet]

Erm huh uh

[devout forum]

Check EpicDesk

Their stuff is like
Really good

Dunno sizing tho

[surreal comet]

I don't like the sound of the mouse on the desk

[surreal comet]

Will do

[balmy solstice]

or try here https://www.yourplaymat.com/collections/full-desk-mouse-pad

you can set custom sizes

[surreal comet]

Looks useful, thanks

[opaque sedge]

2 days today

I’m tired of waiting

[surreal comet]

They go up to 35

That's what I have now

Sadge

[velvet summit]

weakling

[balmy solstice]

expensive

[dusk knot]

Hm

[rancid juniper]

https://videocardz.com/newz/grand-theft-auto-v-pc-upgrade-with-raytracing-nvidia-dlss3-and-amd-fsr3-support-arrives-march-4

oh wow, it finally happened guys

expanded and enhanced on pc

😂

[dusk knot]

Rt

[wintry vector]

I think gtav's been milked enough

[rancid juniper]

requirements isn't bogus

[dusk knot]

3960….not bad

And 6600xt

WTH

[rancid juniper]

lol

[dusk knot]

Nvm. I don’t read

[sinful blade]

Does 5700xt fit above 6600xt?

[rancid juniper]

5700xt doesn't support RT but will run the game (RT option probably greyed out)

[sinful blade]

Ah

[dusk knot]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-yamanosusume-encouragementofclimb-cutegirlsdoingcutethings-cgdct-gif-18516151

[craggy shoal]

You won't want to use RT on a 6600 XT anyways

[rancid juniper]

hes right

[dusk knot]

Negative fps

[craggy shoal]

If you have a 5700 XT and thinking about getting a 6600 XT, stop thinking about it lol

[rancid juniper]

with such low requirements RT is either super light or is some mundane task like RT sun shadows (Halo infinite)

its probably the former imo

wait a minute... So does that mean its not an update but just a separate game???

[dusk knot]

Woagh

[craggy shoal]

Am I missing something?

Woagh

[rancid juniper]

wow they using directstorage

not alot of games utilize that

[dusk knot]

The game is finally modernized

[rancid juniper]

LOL

finally the game wont break from 180fps+ cap

[craggy shoal]

minimum of eight cores if you go with AMD 😭 (the 9590)

[rancid juniper]

Lmao

[craggy shoal]

I didn't even know there was a GTX 1630

[rancid juniper]

I'm surprised that FX is mentioned in the big 2025

[rancid juniper]

Ya, it exists and it sucks

[craggy shoal]

figured 💀

[rancid juniper]

Nvidia wins on all fronts
Strongest GPU
Trashiest GPU

[craggy shoal]

Most expensive GPU

[rancid juniper]

That too

[craggy shoal]

Least expensive consumer-grade GPU (the 1630 in this case lol)

[rancid juniper]

GT uh

Yea

[craggy shoal]

GTX 750? Idk if they still make that

Back in 2020 when it was like $80 💀

[rancid juniper]

yikes

[remote geode]

okay so

I want an OLED for cheap

should I just nick a 15.6 inch AM-OLED screen for a laptop replacement and get a 30-pin eDP driver for it for like, 200 USD total

[craggy shoal]

everybody is now laughing at you

Oh you mean like a portable monitor?

[remote geode]

yeah, possibly

[craggy shoal]

I mean if you can somehow make or get an enclosure for that, it would be worth it

[unreal chasm]

Im no expert when it comes to frametimes and stuff, does this look bad?

[remote geode]

cuz this, with a voucher, is like 180 USD

and these driver boards are just 20 bucks

[remote geode]

really thinking about it

[unreal chasm]

Wait this has been a driver issue? has anyone else had this happen recently?

[remote geode]

where my screen would flicker after waking from sleep?

yeah :v

[remote geode]

i mean hey, it looks good

[unreal chasm]

No mine just wouldnt wanna come back on

[remote geode]

thats a diff problem

on my intel system that happens when i undervolted too low

my theory is that it isn't able to recover from sleep cuz the voltages get too low or smth

and it's not happening anymore since i upped my voltages a bit

but since ur running a ryzen system, your root cause might be different

[unreal chasm]

I think my entire setup has a power issue
my bookshelf speakers will randomly turn off and right back on, switching the input, my monitors will sometimes just not come on, and my pc has been having software issues like everything will just stop working correctly and the power warning light is blinking on my gpu

[remote geode]

try a ups

[unreal chasm]

how expensive should I go?

[velvet summit]

i honestly wonder how much i've spent on my entire setup over the years 🧐

probably around 3k

[velvet summit]

that is... pretty strange
shouldnt be a breaker since it turns back on by itself.... there shouldnt be voltage drop?

hmm

[opaque sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/do-something-meme-gif-8007840

[velvet summit]

you already sent this screenshot

[opaque sedge]

Its a new one

[velvet summit]

but it's the same content

every pixel is the same

[opaque sedge]

It aint coming this weekend is it…

[velvet summit]

you've sent 4 screenshots with the exact same content

💀

[opaque sedge]

[velvet summit]

first half about speakers and monitors sometimes not turning on may be a power issue, though "having software issues" and "power warning light on gpu" shouldnt be caused by a wall power issue probably?

[safe cape]

wich games are you installing on it ?

[velvet summit]

definitely a bit strange

[unreal chasm]

I just find it too coincidental

I just did a bios flash updated drivers and reinstalled windows

and my pc still acting funny

Ive checked all the connection only thing I can think is maybe gpu is going bad or psu is going bad

[opaque sedge]

Dark souls remastered, scholar of the first sin, dark souls 3, armored core 6, sekiro, kingdom come, hades, dragons dogma dark arisen and skyrim

Mostly unplayed stuff from my library

[unreal chasm]

I think the speakers are doing its thing cause their rockvilles and the monitors are tied to the blinking light

[opaque sedge]

I do wanna try running metaphor refantazio too tho

[velvet summit]

is the monitors not turning at all as in like, the status led on the monitor, or the osd doesnt show up at all? or is it just not getting signal

[opaque sedge]

But its tessellation settings are crap dogcrap and even with them off there are shimmering edges on pc

[surreal comet]

Y'all ready for gtaV

Can't wait for it to come out

[rancid juniper]

gotta delete the old one and make space for the new version

GTA remaster remaster remaster FINAL

(hopefully)

[remote geode]

can't wait to upgrade to either a 3070ti or a B580

I'm still on the fence for a 3070/ti cuz it only has 8GBs of VRAM

[surreal comet]

Why not aim for like

A 6700/6700xt at that price

Aren't they similar

[remote geode]

I guess I'm having irrational fears about getting a 6700xt based on my old experience with Vega56

and I'm irrationally thinking that Nvidia/Intel has better productivity performance for the occasional video editing

[surreal comet]

What about a 3060ti

Don't those have 12gb models

[remote geode]

those are priced to high hell, unfortunately

[surreal comet]

Ah

I assume the same for like

A 4070

[remote geode]

but there's gonna be a 6700xt drop for 200 USD

[surreal comet]

Look into it editing has gotten better on the AMD platform then

Maybe it's gotten better

Ask around

[velvet summit]

forgot to count my audio stuff

closer to 4k

[pliant berry]

peripheral can account for a lot

[velvet summit]

indeed

[pliant berry]

I think my setup was like 5k after the years. pc was only 1.5k though

[surreal comet]

Do games count towards the running cost

[pliant berry]

10k easy

[velvet summit]

my pc is around 2k cad?

[pliant berry]

ah im in usd

[velvet summit]

also im converting to usd for this

[rancid juniper]

4k ultra hd

[remote geode]

mine is around 2k, 1k for the pc and another 1k for the peripherals

[velvet summit]

i counted my dc power supply (which was pretty cheap though tbf) as well since it's also a permanent fixture on my desk lmfao

that only accounts for like $60 usd though

[pliant berry]

I really want a new desk eventually but finding a decent one for less than 2k is not easy. or maybe i just need more space

[velvet summit]

diy desk

[pliant berry]

I thought about it

[velvet summit]

realistically not that hard

[remote geode]

i currently have a piece of hard plywood as my desk

it's very uneven but its sturdy

i'm using a piano stand as feet though, and it's very unstable, i might go to ikea to buy some feet

[pliant berry]

no not really but ideally I want something semi shelved and on a standing desk

[velvet summit]

you can get a large sheet of butcher board countertop for relatively cheap
my friend found one new for like $600 usd in socal

[pliant berry]

Originally I wanted a pull out draw underneath for a piano keyboard but it seems to be a tall ask

[velvet summit]

like... one of those folding piano stands???

[remote geode]

yes

[velvet summit]

tbh that's easy to diy install

[velvet summit]

you're crazy

💀

[remote geode]

something like this but sideways

[velvet summit]

i do have a friend that uses a folding table as a desk though lmao

[remote geode]

actually i'm using this but sideways

[pliant berry]

the most difficult thing however is whether or not I could get my set of speaker monitors on the desk or now

[remote geode]

rotate the image in your head by 90 degrees

xDDD

[velvet summit]

your desk is like coffee table height?

[pliant berry]

this looks dangerous

[remote geode]

twice as that

cuz its adjustable

[remote geode]

yeah only my monitors are on it

it's very unstable laterally

[velvet summit]

imo wall mount is better so you can have more flexibility in placement? ig you could get those monitor speaker stands

[velvet summit]

🧐

[remote geode]

heyyyy i gotta buy the essential components first

[pliant berry]

only issue is you can't move it. I do have floor standing stands so it's not horrible if I can't do that

[velvet summit]

true

[remote geode]

like 10w speakers, ups, a glass mousepad, monitor arms, etc.

[pliant berry]

who is listening to wood soup asmr?

[remote geode]

there's a wood soup girl

[velvet summit]

literally the image of people just moving into their apartment with their entire pc setup on the floor and a mattress on the floor

[remote geode]

so there's a niche channel just for that

[velvet summit]

(i tried to look for an image but i couldn't)

[velvet summit]

what does this even mean

what is a wood soup

and how do you make asmr out of it

[remote geode]

found it for you

[pliant berry]

that's what I was trying to figure out but i guess its a person?

[velvet summit]

real

who names themselves wood soup

💀

[remote geode]

https://www.youtube.com/@WoodSoupGirlASMR

[pliant berry]

https://azstudioworkstations.com/products/elite-sit-stand-studio-desk?variant=40313365627066&country=US&currency=USD&utm_medium=product_sync&utm_source=google&utm_content=sag_organic&utm_campaign=sag_organic&gQT=1

this looks pretty nice

[velvet summit]

hmm

not horribly priced honestly?

assuming this is a solid slab of wood

oh it isnt

it's verneer

[pliant berry]

well, still very expensive

my main complaint is just trying to manage all the peripherals I have hanging everywhere

[velvet summit]

imo the more things you want to put on a desk, the more of a reason to diy something to fit your specific use case

[pliant berry]

or I just have to stop constantly changing workflows

[velvet summit]

well, that is a benefit of diy, because you'll know you'll be able to continue to modify the desk as you need

maybe it's just me, but whenever i buy something prefab, i don't want to modify it, but if i made it myself, i can destroy it as much as i want without feeling any pain lol

[pliant berry]

I could get just a plain sit stand frame with a basic but flexible surface and add to it as I go I suppose

[velvet summit]

for a piano keyboard tray, just get a piece of like plywood or something, cut to length, and add these https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07GJ838R8

or similar

[dusk knot]

Hmmm^3

[pliant berry]

yeah something like that could work

[gleaming sedge]

Any one know of good deals on am5 cpu?

Used market at the moment looking meh, trying to still find cheaper parts to build a computer for my girlfriend and not use all of my pay checks at once so I might even have to split up the build. (Paychecks are 400 bi weekly)

[gentle canyon]

if you are on a budget and if you dont have am5 parts, am4 is still viable

[dusk knot]

√[ (∑ h ) / (π - e) ] = ?
m=1
m
--------------------------
hmmm

[dense locust]

[gleaming sedge]

True but I'd like it to be able for upgrade in future and that makes it better for am5 when games start getting out of hand and am4 can't keep up

But I do have my old pc that's am4 so maybe I could pickup a ryzen 7 5800x for a decent price and a 6600xt

And 2x16gb ram kit

[worthy tapir]

War never changes

[velvet summit]

the pipboy slim

[velvet summit]

https://youtu.be/tjXnNQc4OLE

[gleaming sedge]

This seem decent deal?

[velvet summit]

yes
so decent that it might even be fake

[gleaming sedge]

Maybe

[velvet summit]

just the gpu is worth pretty much the entire listed price

[gleaming sedge]

I could put the 3070 in my pc and give her the 3060 I have thay needs fans

[velvet summit]

wait, 3 of these are ti, though that's not a huge difference

regular 3070 is still around $300

5800x is going for around 100-150

somewhat suspicious pricing

if you are going to buy it, make sure to bring a friend, ideally at a public place

like a mcdonalds

[gleaming sedge]

Definitely, worth looking into maybe, we definitely need something to do at times and she's been wanting to game or at least I think so

[worn wave]

AliExpress sometimes has some 7500f/7600x for good prices

[lone mango]

Yeah I think 7500f is like 130 or something

last time i checked

first listing is 125

[sinful blade]

They normally price items at $450 to get over the shipping restrictions Facebook has.

You can’t ship over $500.

Ask them for the real price.

[gleaming sedge]

We shall see, part of me says she should buy it since her pc and she can afford it better than me but it is fine

[worn wave]

Yeah I doubt that's actually $450

[velvet summit]

damn miside peaceful mode is planned for mid 2026

[dusk knot]

∞ √(-1)
∫ e^(iπ) h
0 ---------
(1 + 0!)
------------------ m * m = hmmm
log₂(2^8)

[fresh timber]

R5 5500 is here

[dusk knot]

Hooray

🎉

[fresh timber]

Time to install

[rancid juniper]

ryzen upgrades

[misty sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/bean-mr-bean-mr-bean-rowan-atkinson-rowan-atkinson-mr-bean-misterbean-gif-11722078161130246388

okay what

[hoary zodiac]

Overpriced eh?

Isn't 2080 a bit cheaper?

Or even TI

[fresh timber]

i need ur help

is their a problem going from old bios to new bios

https://www.asrock.com/support/BIOSIG.asp?cat=BIOS10 i follow the steps and it says its an invalid bios going from 2019 to 2024

this my first time upgrading am4 so idfk anything a out this poo platform

[misty sparrow]

For a four year old card you’d think it’d be cheaper

I’d say $200-$250 is a good price

It’s at least better than what I’ve seen 3060s and 3060tis go for

[hoary zodiac]

In current market conditions?

That's a steal

Hopefully the gpu market isn't going to be full 2020 where even the used market gets hit hard

[fresh timber]

Am I tripping cause Istg I downloaded the right bios

oo i figured it out

i have to update to 7.0 first

[fresh timber]

Ok so I got the bios that supports the cpu and I’m not booting haha

I’m not crazy right

7.20 and above supports the 5500 it’s a cezanne cpu

[icy ore]

Oooo

[pliant berry]

pulled from a horribly scratched cd but it seems fine?

[hoary zodiac]

Yeah sounds fine

[dusk knot]

Discord is trying to make me play overwatch 2 again..no thanks

[random osprey]

they added in lot boxes that were banned to begin with, gamba gamba gamba

[frigid stag]

You missed the classic mode

[pliant berry]

Weird I didn’t get any overwatch sponsored content

[dusk knot]

But you have to buy those

[random osprey]

and?

[frigid stag]

They brought back dps doom in classic

[random osprey]

gamba gamba gamba

[frigid stag]

Slightly different feel to it though

[dusk knot]

Don't care. It's just more of the same

[frigid stag]

Well it’s the old stuff that’s better

[dusk knot]

Cheap nostalgia bait has no effect on me

[gleaming sedge]

Does anyone know if using a VPN to get Adobe cheaper still works?

[fresh timber]

I

[frigid stag]

I wouldn’t call it old enough to be nostalgia but ye

[dusk knot]

It's getting there

I got marvel's rivals now

Overwatch is in the past

[wise wigeon]

Well they just fired like a crap Tom of their team

Ton*

[dusk knot]

Ive heard it was only 6 people

It wasn't the whole development team

And this was only in Seattle

There are more people out there

[wise wigeon]

The core team is in china

[dusk knot]

Yeah

[wise wigeon]

One layoff was a level designer

[dusk knot]

I'm going to look into why they did that

[unreal trail]

💀

[dusk knot]

It can't be a financial issue

[wise wigeon]

To optimize development apparently

Ok I see the Forbes article

That’s where you got the 6

[mortal grail]

Did anyone get a gpu last night

[fresh timber]

From where

[mortal grail]

Idk the toilet

Where do you think 💀

[unreal trail]

no I got gummy bears

[mortal grail]

[fresh timber]

I’m troubleshooting rn it’s fun

[nocturne flicker]

The toilet lizard left a gift fr fr

[rancid juniper]

3dmark GPU comparisons time

Bruh fire strike ultra went under 60fps, unplayable smh card underpowered

Need me a true 4k card for $4269

[dusk knot]

Same

We need more overpriced cards

[rancid juniper]

Absolutely

It increases our chances of ungetting one

[dusk knot]

$1000 entry GPUs plz, NgreedAi

[rancid juniper]

But it's there

[dusk knot]

You think the 5080ti is going to happen?

[rancid juniper]

Super is more likely imo

[dusk knot]

5 percent improvements.....sigh

Maybe I should get a 5080 😔

[rancid juniper]

If you want to

[dusk knot]

Really?!

[mortal grail]

Jp sign up for that geforce program

You can get an msrp 5080

If you had an old account

[dusk knot]

Hmmmmmmm

I really don't want to buy an AIB anymore

[rancid juniper]

Priority access

Lel

[mortal grail]

Yeah that's the one

Way I see it any other method will be impossible

And any aib price on these things makes the cards questionable value at best

Not a generational leap in the slightest

[rancid juniper]

Fr

[mortal grail]

Nothing to lose just signing up JP

Genuinely

Buy the last card generation Nvidia makes that's a sidegrade 💀

[rancid juniper]

Or wait for GTA V new grafiz update to be satisfie

[kindred shadow]

hi where can i ask about pc builds

[dusk knot]

Here

Or #building-and-recc-chat

[craggy shoal]

#building-and-recc-chat

only #building-and-recc-chat

not here

never here

ur mom

[rancid juniper]

is here

[craggy shoal]

bumper cars

[rancid juniper]

is also here

[craggy shoal]

/tneor

bruh

https://tenor.com/bDmj6.gif

[rancid juniper]

L

[kindred shadow]

any1 free to check #building-and-recc-chat

[craggy shoal]

nah

[kindred shadow]

smd

[craggy shoal]

look bro

uhh

yo mamma bin laden

[dusk knot]

Ppft

💀

[kindred shadow]

k , Y !$

[craggy shoal]

woah bro

woah

woagh

bro

https://tenor.com/bAt3T.gif

[fresh timber]

Guys

Do I buy a new am4 board

[dusk knot]

Am5

[craggy shoal]

why?

[fresh timber]

Or a 16gb ram stick and run single channel

[craggy shoal]

yeah go AM5

bruh

what

[fresh timber]

Cost too much

[fresh timber]

Motherboard having issues

[dusk knot]

Save money

[fresh timber]

Only works with one ram stick rn

[craggy shoal]

new PSU

[fresh timber]

And I just got the mf cpu for it

[craggy shoal]

also just get matching sticks

[fresh timber]

No

[fresh timber]

Can only run one rn

Options are ram stick or motherboard

Theirs a brand new r5 5500 back their

[mortal grail]

Single stick of vengeance 💀

[fresh timber]

And??

[mortal grail]

Such a cursed pc

Lmao

[fresh timber]

But my vengeance isn’t bad?

Mines can oc lmfao

[mortal grail]

Mine could too

It was rev E

Doesn't mean I don't laugh

[fresh timber]

I think I have rev e too

[mortal grail]

💀

[fresh timber]

Unless am5 has $80 CPUs and $40 ram I’m not doing it

[tranquil pebble]

Persona 5 Royal shares a voice actress with Kamen Rider lol

[fresh timber]

@craggy shoal do they make $80 CPUs

For am5

6c12t

With $80 motherboards where all I need is iommu and a gpu

[craggy shoal]

Yeah in like four years

[fresh timber]

I won’t be swapping then

[sweet phoenix]

8400f

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005008413827078.html

Also there's 5600s cheaper than your 5500

[fresh timber]

😭 ain’t that cpu ass

[fresh timber]

I know

I can only use Amazon rn

[sweet phoenix]

Better than a 5500 lol

[fresh timber]

New egg egg

[craggy shoal]

Yeah 5600 is worse than 5500

[fresh timber]

Yeah I didn’t really care, I just diddng wanna be in a 2300x

[craggy shoal]

diddng

diddng is crazy

[fresh timber]

@sweet phoenix why does 2300x show the 2 sticks but only used one while 5500 doesn’t even post

[sweet phoenix]

Update bios

[fresh timber]

It is already updated

I’m on the latest non beta

[mortal grail]

What's the bios date

[fresh timber]

2023/2/14

[mortal grail]

Website says it's supported?

[fresh timber]

Yes

Cezanna was added on verson 7.20, I updated to l8.01

Which is newer

I suspect I just need a new board if I wanna use 16gb ram

[mortal grail]

Try any other bios 7.30 or newer

L8.01 is a beta

[fresh timber]

Can it be possible a ram channel is just dead on the board

[mortal grail]

No

Not in the case of the 5500 not working

[fresh timber]

On the other cpu I can get it to boot with both but windows will only use 8gb, same for proxmox

[mortal grail]

5500 was released after cezanne's initial launch that's why I asked about the bios date

[fresh timber]

My only solution rn to boot is to buy remove the extra ram stick, but now I’m stuck on 16gb ram

[mortal grail]

Try another bios

[fresh timber]

Bios go wiiiiii

And through all this I managed to kill my proxmox 🙂 I can’t access it

[fresh timber]

whcih one should i try

[mortal grail]

Any of the 3

[fresh timber]

top beta it is

Ugh I’ll just run 8gb ram until I get new motherboard

Atlestt it’s not my main pc

[finite onyx]

Is the steamvr performance test the best way to tell if my PC can handle vr or is there a better option?

[fresh timber]

Atleast one stick workd

[pliant berry]

I would probably just look for benchmarks of the games you are trying to play. performance in vr games varies greatly

[hoary zodiac]

Also might want to see if you can handle vr

Different people have different tolerances to refresh rates

For some people 90Hz is fine

For others it's a pukefest

[fresh timber]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/cYJp99/asrock-b450m-pro4-r20-micro-atx-am4-motherboard-b450m-pro4-r20 good pcie too yum

[hoary zodiac]

chips gang

[pliant berry]

chips indeed

[mortal grail]

Try one stick only in the other slot

[fresh timber]

Doesn’t boot

[mortal grail]

Whichever one you know that works

Ok so dead slot then

But the board posts

[fresh timber]

It also doesn’t boot in 2300x unless both are populated

[fresh timber]

Better than a dead board

This all started when I was removing the old flu a few days ago for a new cooler 😭😭

[worn night]

whats up chat

how fast did the 5070 ti's sell

[tranquil pebble]

0.00000000001 ns

[fresh timber]

People buy what ever dog poop Nvidia releases

What’s next? 5070 4gb, selling out

[tranquil pebble]

it would not surprise me at all if someone has been killed over GPUs at this point

[fresh timber]

In asia they have irrc

Japan

https://www.pcgamesn.com/nvidia/5090-5080-japan-lottery

[dusk knot]

My god

NgreedAi has them on a hook

[fresh timber]

yeah..

[opaque sedge]

It finally shipped but its all the way in illinois…

I aint getting it this weekend am i

[dusk knot]

OLED

[fresh timber]

Ooo

That’s where I live

Want me to pick it up for you?

[opaque sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/side-eye-dog-suspicious-look-suspicious-doubt-dog-doubt-gif-23680990

[fair onyx]

I swear I'm gonna blow up lmao @hoary zodiac

At what point do I just demand a refund or something? 😭

[mortal grail]

What is it

[icy ore]

you're gonna blow up a Boeing? D:

[opaque sedge]

Demand… dema… de…. DE-

[mortal grail]

do

[opaque sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/mets-baseball-homerun-gif-12571819431418851501

[fair onyx]

They are doing that on their own

[icy ore]

rip

true

[unreal trail]

ok

[mortal grail]

Ai

[velvet summit]

no, eggs do that obviously

oh crap

egg sink

[misty sparrow]

this was made in 2021-2022

[mortal grail]

Oh my bad

*Algorithm

[misty sparrow]

yeah your bad lmao

L

[velvet summit]

("ai" has existed for pretty much decades)

[misty sparrow]

massive L

[mortal grail]

Oh

aLgorithm

[misty sparrow]

i want a massive A too

[mortal grail]

ALgorithm

[misty sparrow]

beautiful

[mortal grail]

Is that good byoss

[lone mango]

Something you would see on the reddit popular page

[nocturne flicker]

I don't like the writhing pencils

[lone mango]

oh my bad discord didnt update

[misty sparrow]

comments still accurate

[lone mango]

True reddit video

[velvet summit]

i definitely see why freespinning scroll wheels have an appeal to them

is it useful? debatable

is it fun? yeah

only been 2 days of having my new mouse and i've already greatly appreciated having a thumb wheel

[fresh timber]

ima make a debloated windows for 8gb ram pc, what should i try? tiny 11?

[velvet summit]

though im still in the habit of trying to hold shift to scroll left/right until i remember that i could just use the thumb wheel

[velvet summit]

just use linux

[fresh timber]

no

maybe

no

the games i wanna try dont

kek

[velvet summit]

frowns

[fresh timber]

i used to use linux on that machine until my proxmox exploded

lmfao

[velvet summit]

wtf did you do

[fresh timber]

bios updated messed with the network card settings causing me to lose access

and sense i use gpu passthrough i cant excatly just change it

[velvet summit]

huh

oh right you changed cpu

💀

[fresh timber]

yeah

proxmox shoudlnt have issue with new cpu

it does with new motherboard tho, essentialy i installed a new motherboard as far as proxmox is aware

[opaque sedge]

Why tf does addison have my package…. WHO IS THAT DITCH

Also its ups…

[fresh timber]

not too far from me

picking it up

[opaque sedge]

[fresh timber]

anddd i just realised my boot drive might hold me back a little, just going to slap my gaming pcs boot drive in it cause im lazy

[misty sparrow]

this is gonna be sore just watch

[nocturne flicker]

We have your package. We put it in a ditch 😊

[velvet summit]

what, you would have preferred fedex?

or worse, usps?

[nocturne flicker]

USPS betterer

Return to USPS

[misty sparrow]

all of them are the same

[nocturne flicker]

It really needs the help

[misty sparrow]

equally bad

[velvet summit]

real

[sage sluice]

i like walking across the world and delivering my package to myself

[nocturne flicker]

USPS gonna get bonked and turned into a private company

[sage sluice]

package ships from australia? ill walk. If jesus walked on water why cant i

[velvet summit]

amazon is somehow the only company that doesnt like cause the corners of the boxes to all be crumpled like they were tossed

[nocturne flicker]

Rural post office go poof

Seriously tho the local branch of the USPS is pretty good despite my feelings and opinions on them requiring employees use their own vehicle

[sage sluice]

what do they pay for their gas?

[nocturne flicker]

...

Anyways

[sage sluice]

and maintanace

[nocturne flicker]

Anyways

[sage sluice]

sounds like a great job!

[nocturne flicker]

It is fine they get $19 an hour surely that makes up for it

[sage sluice]

sure sure

[opaque sedge]

Now that i think abt it… yeah the standards are so low for shipping companies

[nocturne flicker]

What is that? They only start newbies out at 1 guaranteed shift a week?

[sage sluice]

i made 11 an hour at my last job so ig i cant say anything

[velvet summit]

real

[sage sluice]

yikes

[opaque sedge]

Recently saw a reddit post of a guy who got his deck lost in transit with ups

Which means it was very likely stolen

[velvet summit]

not even hazardous material are always handled with care

[nocturne flicker]

Also the guaranteed shift is Saturday

[velvet summit]

afaik valve double boxes

[sage sluice]

death sentence

this moment

guilty

[nocturne flicker]

And then for the rest of the week you are on call

[sage sluice]

you cant be friends with anybody off work at my step dads job

he works at bucky's

think if country disneyland and a gas station had a baby

[nocturne flicker]

They don't even cover conversions or anything like that to make your car capable of right seat driving

[velvet summit]

i guess not

[velvet summit]

solution: buy a japanese import

[nocturne flicker]

My friend worked there briefly and said they were told that some people sit on their car's middle console or use ropes to make sure they can still reach the mailboxes

[velvet summit]

💀

what

they mr beaned their cars

[unreal trail]

[nocturne flicker]

The rinky dinky hamlet of less than 500 people I grew up in had a small fleet of the standard issue LLVs from the 80s and this town with nearly 7 times the population has a smaller post office and doesn't have any vehicles

[fresh timber]

i could legit game on this

this is a r5 5500, 8gb 3600 cl26 ram, and a rx6600

ima try a 7700xt in a bit

[craggy shoal]

table

[rancid juniper]

Table
Hand
Canisters
And...
FEET

[craggy shoal]

mf called them canisters

[rancid juniper]

[craggy shoal]

"The perfect thumbnail and title combination doesn't exist" explain this

[rancid juniper]

School is based for that

[fresh timber]

wow

[rancid juniper]

What isn't based tho: https://wccftech.com/samsungs-former-employee-faces-highest-ever-criminal-sentence-for-leaking-18nm-chip-secrets-to-china/

[fresh timber]

i forgot gaming is heavy on 6 core cpus

lol

[rancid juniper]

Is it an upgrade?

[fresh timber]

for this system yes

[rancid juniper]

Ah

I wonder if the GPU can still max out

[fresh timber]

my main pc has a 13600kf

[craggy shoal]

wym? it's 2025. All GPUs max out

https://tenor.com/KJzOT5hBJm.gif

[fresh timber]

ll turn the settings up

im at 1080p cause im not plugged into my 1440p display lmfao

[rancid juniper]

☠️

[fresh timber]

dont really feel like fishing that cable rn

but this is very playable

epic preset, here we go

[rancid juniper]

Me when I pair my RTX 4070 with an i5-8400

[fresh timber]

reduced the cpu load

[dusk knot]

Damn . That's epic

I want that

[rancid juniper]

As it should

[fresh timber]

ngl i think ima start taking this system with me to my dads house

its small and it can fit my 7700xt when i wanna go

ima unraid 0 two of my gaming pcs nvmes so that system can get a nvme

rn i just took the boot ssd fro mmy main pc and put it in the 5500 pc

lolll

[rancid juniper]

5500 iirc is like the cheapest 6 core so far right?

[fresh timber]

yup

[craggy shoal]

I need me a good SFF that's between the size of a cat and a brick

[fresh timber]

for $80 its a very good cpu

[rancid juniper]

Man I gotta try ryzen someday fr

Like make an itx PC with it

[fresh timber]

only downside with am4 is the dam bios

my 13600kf system just worked

[rancid juniper]

Just flashback button

Ez

[dusk knot]

Pure click bait

[fresh timber]

jokes on u my motherboard doesnt have one

[rancid juniper]

Depends on the board tho

Lol

Figures

[fresh timber]

i have to buy a new board

wanna know why

[rancid juniper]

Ye

[fresh timber]

im not choosing to run 8gb ram rn

[rancid juniper]

Oh

My

Bruh

[random osprey]

its true, i was with the planet flying through space

[fresh timber]

look at this ram lmfao

[rancid juniper]

Crap timings too, bro is not winning

Brb

[fresh timber]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VTYmNz this is the current buidl list minus ram

i got two mitch match sticks ima install and force to run 3000mhz kek

rather slow 16gb over "fast" 8gb

[sweet phoenix]

Ooh I like the bomb

[fresh timber]

ty

my non bomb psu has a broken fan blade 😭

[craggy shoal]

bomb

[fresh timber]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/8MJgXL/asrock-a520m-phantom-gaming-4-micro-atx-am4-motherboard-a520m-phantom-gaming-4 im liking this motherboard for its pcie slots

mhh

2nd slot runs 2x

good enoguh for a hba or 10gig card or what ever i might install in this one day

[craggy shoal]

Hot take: BTX > ATX so I don't have to bang my hand into my PC at times

[fresh timber]

is this good for a5500

Before I do that ima transfer some data between my stuff for the nvme upgrade

o lord, ima tighten my aio

am4 made for 90c tho right @craggy shoal

[craggy shoal]

why did you ping me?

tf

this guy acts like I'd know things off the top of my head 💀

You have Google right in front of you lol

[fresh timber]

lol

it used 48w

ima redo paste and other upgrades kek

[velvet summit]

i was going to reply with something but then i realized that it may be too much for this server 💀

[craggy shoal]

lollll

[fresh timber]

Which nvme should the server get

Ima give the green one

[craggy shoal]

the one on the right is a 2280 for no reason 💀

[fresh timber]

It’s a single chip lmfao

[velvet summit]

https://youtu.be/Mb6y6Qlsyvw

i wish

[misty sparrow]

if you paid for it, max it out

[rancid juniper]

Killing Floor 3 closed beta

if one of yall is interested, can get it here: https://game.intel.com/us/giveaways/

[lone mango]

what are the requirements

[rancid juniper]

like sys requirements?

[lone mango]

Bro whats with the amd requirements

[lone mango]

yea i see now

[rancid juniper]

alr

[lone mango]

7700x or 9700k

[rancid juniper]

lmfao

cmon devs

[lone mango]

6750 xt or 3060

huge discrepancy here

[misty sparrow]

the right typo in the wrong place can make all the difference in the world

[nocturne flicker]

Why is Intel running a Valentine's day sweepstake that ends in 17 days

[rancid juniper]

😂

[dusk knot]

That's confusing

[rancid juniper]

almost looks like a 19700k