general-chat

[mortal grail]

680 isn't that bad for one

[steep spade]

I'm sure even a 750 would

[mortal grail]

It's a little quicker than a 4070 Ti Super

[fresh timber]

Somebody Should give me 7900xt money

[mortal grail]

Just keep it in mind if you can't wait anymore lad

[frigid stag]

Or get open box xtx

[mortal grail]

They're decent cards

^

[steep spade]

I'll start planning another build and possibly go into debt to make ot happen. 🙃

[mortal grail]

Links for good ones

[sweet phoenix]

I'm gonna get a 5090 on my 850w GT with my degraded 13600kf at 1440p

[mortal grail]

Nah just swap the gpu honestly

You'll be fine

As long as the case has space

[fresh timber]

Why

[sweet phoenix]

Gaming

[fresh timber]

Time to flex that mines isn’t degraded

[steep spade]

Phanteks p500a

[mortal grail]

Def fits

[steep spade]

Plenty of room

[mortal grail]

Hell yeah

There's a plan B

[sinful blade]

~~send me the old gpu ~~

[mortal grail]

It'll run well

[steep spade]

So look for an xtx?

[mortal grail]

7900XT imo

Higher you're definitively cpu bound

7900XT is barely on the limit to me

[sinful blade]

What about a GRE?

[mortal grail]

COD is also extremely AMD biased overall

[mortal grail]

Good luck finding one

They disappeared off the market again

Used is def possible tho

[sweet phoenix]

Isn't this the 2019 cod?

[mortal grail]

If it's not the newest one then they all have like a 30% radeon bias lmao

[devout forum]

I can still get a GRE
but it's like BARELY cheaper than an XT so not at a good price

[mortal grail]

XTX outruns a 4090 at times

[mortal grail]

US

[devout forum]

Ik

[sinful blade]

There’s a few for $800

[mortal grail]

Ha

[devout forum]

Just saying that we're a little behind

[mortal grail]

We really are back to covid crap

Wow

[devout forum]

But like
Paying 95% of the XT price for a GRE makes no sense

[mortal grail]

I feel privileged this time as I have zero intent to upgrade

Considerable, even non h

[sinful blade]

I need upgrades

[devout forum]

When you have a 4090 it's easy to skip a gen

[mortal grail]

But used prices sound messed up rn

Were

Have you looked now

Cos I haven't

And every gpu I've heard so far is hyper inflated

[proud jackal]

[mortal grail]

Can't wait for 4 more months of this

[proud jackal]

I give this earth 2 more months

[mortal grail]

@steep spade worth thinking about tbh

In a month they might be the norm

[sinful blade]

@mortal grail I need your superior finding skills to find me a cheap 5700xt

[mortal grail]

Anything from JP is gouged

JP is gouged in general

The island was gouged off of china

It's prophetic

[peak heart]

Do b650 have gen 5 nvme support??

[mortal grail]

Yes

[peak heart]

How fast is it over gen4??

[sinful blade]

Tiny

[mortal grail]

Do you work a video editing job

If your answer is anything less than "yes 40 hours a week" then it makes zero difference and you're wasting money into the wind

Go gen 3/4

[sinful blade]

Gen 3 is still 100% fine for 99% of people

[steep spade]

@mortal grail i sent you a FR i had a few questions if that's cool

[mortal grail]

Sure

[peak heart]

Aight 👍🏿

[rancid juniper]

https://youtu.be/qAbPi0malGg?si=rQF9U-XjXoBXQ8-8

[lone mango]

Bro seriously

I think pcie 5 came too early

Very few people will actually benefit from that

True apparently when a new gen comes out the drives run really hot

Derbauer was saying they use the same controllers

But they are like overclocking them basically because a new one didnt come out yet

So you gotta wait a little bit for a new controller so it can handle the speeds like how the previous generation did

Which sucks because not all boards are loaded with them

Itx boards are now having more than one m.2 but mine has one rn

A lot of boards have two

But I am also seeing 3 a lot too. maybe more have 3 nowadays

[opaque sedge]

Lol better buy than 50 series rn

[icy ore]

True

[opaque sedge]

Oh its not the super

Meh iirc they barely had a perf dif

[velvet summit]

damn

i somehow looked at my watch the second the hour turned

15:00

[pliant berry]

[fresh timber]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqSoaDYRpQ0

i wonder if the 9070xt wil be gen 5

my gen5 slot is being useless rn 😦

[icy ore]

[fresh timber]

7700xt spiderman to, high preset fsr 3.1

im confused on why people hate upscaling, i see one thing that loksd weird and its so easy to just ignore it

[worn wave]

Let's see some screenshots in motion buddy

Motion clarity is terrible with temporal methods

[fresh timber]

I shall boot obs

I’m enjoying the game rn with fsr

[worn wave]

Transformer model does improve motion clarity quite a bit and hopefully AMD will follow suit

[fresh timber]

give me a second, i gotta record, then downscale and lower bitrates and stuff cause i record high

[worn wave]

Don't record

[fresh timber]

why

[worn wave]

Take screenshots

[fresh timber]

screenshot while web swining

bet

[worn wave]

Recording is gonna have way more compression than a screenshot

[fresh timber]

i mean i could re cord for 10 seconds at like 100mbps

shoudlnt be any compression

[worn wave]

Ok fair

There's lots of imgsli of motion vs still image available on a subreddit I can't link here because of stupid filter

[worn wave]

Oh nvm I can grab the imgsli link

https://imgsli.com/MzQ0ODgw/

[worn wave]

I suppose spiderman does benefit from you not being terribly close to things, so textures blurring isn't as much of an issue

[fresh timber]

note to self, 10 seconds is alot

this server really doesnt have nitro boost

goin do a trick, upload to one that does then send link here

okokay so the file i sjust too big in general

[velvet summit]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/481168746787110913/1335218193974952078/agmmWzK_460sv.mp4

[inland pulsar]

is jawa.gg a scam?

[fresh timber]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/150662382874525696/1335361142662365224/2025-02-01_15-26-15.mp4?ex=679fe37a&is=679e91fa&hm=94b5125d3398ac49ea3bf1bc51b6e019b3a81c8a32b8be5195321f1c7b5a871b& @worn wave

i forgot audio, o well

[worn wave]

yeah details in motion are just blegh

[fresh timber]

i still think its very much playable and people are too picky,

[worn wave]

playable? yes, absolutely.

[fresh timber]

wayy better than before

older fsr versons

[worn wave]

Should developers and graphics card manufacturers be leaning on it as hard as they currently are? absolutely not.

[fresh timber]

amd aint leaning on it atle3ast

nvidia is

[lone mango]

Nah its just a small platform

It used to be even smaller last year

I remember going there a long time ago

The ltt giveaway collab grew their website a lot

[lone mango]

Dude I love upscaling how can you not love this man

Dude come on

[fresh timber]

i like the fps im getting

im playing high settings at 60-70fps

sometimes 90 in the right areas

[worn wave]

back before upscaling I'd bet a 7700xt-equivalent GPU could run AAA titles at 60 FPS without upscaling

[lone mango]

Funny how the memes came out about extending the life of their older cards but there is actually a push to upgrade even more a few years later

At first thats how upscaling was, because when upscaling was newer, games were still made well

[fresh timber]

o i can

i just use upscaling for more fps

60 is 🤮 to me

[worn wave]

I mean in that clip you were getting like 60-65

[fresh timber]

yeah

upscaling barley helped

[lone mango]

Newest game I bought was from 3 years ago

Thanks for making bad games developers

Saving me so much money

[fresh timber]

...

im getting MORE fps with fsr off

wtf is this madness

and my gpu is working not as hard...

okay note to self, fsr is broken

[lone mango]

What is so demanding in that scene bruh literally just buildings

You should be getting like 50% more than that

[fresh timber]

this is less demanding that fighting some thugs

ignore 1% lows, inaccurate

[lone mango]

If games now were made like back then at least

[fresh timber]

i have a feeling after a few more updates this game will be great for performance

it was designed to run on a ps5 afterall

[craggy shoal]

"ignore my laugh" ahh 🙏😭

[fresh timber]

Theirs artifacts rn lmfao

[frigid stag]

ye when the 1080 ti was the highest end gpu lol

[fresh timber]

Update

My average fps is higher running native than it is with upscaling

[frigid stag]

games become more “unoptimised” once devs realise they dont have to make it run on lower end hardware

[wise wigeon]

Th can’t find a no regular sized screwdriver in my house

[fresh timber]

Wanna borrow mines

[velvet summit]

https://youtube.com/shorts/opMQ-sm6eXs

[wise wigeon]

Like a lot of it is tool less but I still gotta screw a few things in

[frigid stag]

use a swiss army knife then

the verge style

[wise wigeon]

And me not being at 100% I ain’t fumbling around with a tiny non mag screwdriver

Was thinking about getting a some 99% while I was out too

But like idk if it’s best for me to drive

[opaque sedge]

Guys what kind of game is death stranding?

[worn wave]

walking sim

[fresh timber]

One you play for 5 seconds

[mortal grail]

You're stranded and also dead somehow

[opaque sedge]

Bruh

[opaque sedge]

Ah yes an activity so foreign to the avg gamer than they have to simulate it

No offense guys and to me

[mortal grail]

No they have walking simulator

2020 edition

[fresh timber]

Play spiderman

[worn wave]

can't tell if ultrawide camera or you sit like 4 feet from your monitor

[fresh timber]

Ultra wide camera

I sit this far

[worn wave]

ok lol

[opaque sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/sweats-gif-25346666

Um

How bad is 2ft

https://tenor.com/view/sweats-gif-25346666

[wise wigeon]

It looks like 2-3 feet from my end

[wise wigeon]

The mouse is probably something like 5”

[dusk knot]

Hm

[fresh timber]

What I’m hearing is, buy 5080 and overclock it

[wise wigeon]

Seems like they overclock well

Unless these people in particular hit it big

[still sun]

There are better cards for less

[fresh timber]

I wonder if Nvidia will play with clock speeds in newer drivers

[fresh timber]

You can bet 4090 for less?

[still sun]

Maybe an AMD 7900XTX or something

[wraith fern]

weird

[nocturne flicker]

I wonder if Nvidia will get more gpus to go with their newer drivers

[fresh timber]

Xtx will use 1000w trying to get 4090 level

Lmfao

[wraith fern]

discord just startred taking up 30 gigs of ram and then crashed

💀

[mortal grail]

It fell short a few hundred of stock 4090

Didn't beat

[nocturne flicker]

Womp womp

[wraith fern]

does this count ai frames or no

[wise wigeon]

But it’s not better?

It’s competitive

It’s not better

[fresh timber]

Well your never getting msrp

Terrifs dropped today

[dusk knot]

I c

[dusk knot]

No

[wise wigeon]

Those were the Canada and Mexico tariffs

[dusk knot]

There is no MFG in 3D Mark

[opaque sedge]

theres a new conspiracy apparently some dude's 4090 started getting lower clocks and consuming less power after a recent driver update

[fresh timber]

Lmfao

New driver update to increase 5080 clocks??

[mortal grail]

Speedway the 5080 is 10% behind

Which lines up with the other 4K benchmarks

Sounds like PR is cpu bound tbh

Wouldn't be surprised it's like a 2018 benchmark lol

[opaque sedge]

damn wtf happened

[random osprey]

xbox happened

[random osprey]

and also people finally waking up and realized cod hasnt been good in a long time

[opaque sedge]

what did they do

[opaque sedge]

[wise wigeon]

Lot of things

[fresh timber]

I like cod…

[wise wigeon]

Mic banned for no reason

Like no mic plugged in bans

[random osprey]

id say xbox is good for cod. they brought back the servers for the old cods, gamepass access making it cheaper, sales. but also just bad cause cod dont do good games and make bad decisions

[wise wigeon]

Maps are mediocre to bad

Apparently new warzone blows

Etc.

[random osprey]

coms ban for bad language on a game that built a reputation because everyone loved that you can say bad language is crazy ngl

[fresh timber]

Playing spider man 2 right.. why didn’t they remove scorpions suit??

[wise wigeon]

Especially after they added a hostage system of all things

[random osprey]

also dumb that they keep only bringing back some maps for as additional content instead of just having them in already and adding in new actual maps

[mortal grail]

Old xbox 360 lobbies were the greatest comedy back in the day of old youtube

[wise wigeon]

Xbox mic days were peak

[velvet summit]

"no full auto in building"

The shenanigans:

[fresh timber]

My rooms getting hot

Window time

[icy ore]

pretty

[rancid juniper]

gonna try spiderman 2 today

will bench it

[fresh timber]

have fun

the beginign of the game is full of stuttres and random fps drops, as i progress the fps seems to be stable

also upscaling gives me less fps

:))

[rancid juniper]

LOL

[velvet summit]

one of the more realistic looking server racks i've seen in a game, but still a few things strange

• glass panel???
• hotswap drive carriers on the 4u? systems don't seem right
• unenclosed breaker panel right next to the racks, blocked by crates
• wasting space by spacing the rack units strangely (why are the 4u units like 2u spaced apart???)

also absolutely atrocious wiring in the background, looks so inefficent

[fresh timber]

idfk whats up but fsr 3.1 delivers 50-60fps, native?? 60-80fps...

can somebody explain how

[dusk knot]

Did you get a 5090 yet?

[velvet summit]

like wtf was the electrician smoking

[rancid juniper]

magic smoke

[velvet summit]

real

[rancid juniper]

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-5060-5060-ti-expected-for-march-2025-release-by-colorfuls-main-supplier

RTX 5060ti slower than a 3060ti

imagine

[fresh timber]

5060 should be a 4070, but that won’t happen

It will be another 3060 4060 deal

[rancid juniper]

5060 stuck with 8gb

[fresh timber]

wtf man

Buy a b580

[rancid juniper]

lol despite some driver concerns it holds great value than whatever the heck nvidia outputs on the lower end

[fresh timber]

I’d rather have bad drivers and 12gb vram over good drivers and 8gb

[rancid juniper]

i can definitely deal with intel's shenanigans since i both have a raptorlake chip + radeon card

these drivers don't faze me

[fresh timber]

I also use raptorlake+radeon

I’m used to it

[rancid juniper]

👍

build combos ranked (don't take at face value)

1. Intel CPU + Radeon GPU
2. AMD CPU + Nvidia GPU
3. AMD CPU + Radeon GPU
4. AMD CPU + Intel GPU
5. Intel CPU + Intel GPU

oh i forgot Intel CPU + Nvidia GPU

[random osprey]

gotta wait for nvidia cpu

[rancid juniper]

👀

[sinful blade]

I’m still astonished that playing with this 5700g is so much smoother than the 8500g

[rancid juniper]

with or without gpu?

[fresh timber]

G

[sinful blade]

Without gpu

I’m still looking for a 5700xt

[rancid juniper]

i see

[fresh timber]

Good gpu

I need to help my friend get off his rx570 lmfao

[sinful blade]

Not sure how you do that with a gpu but

[fresh timber]

Lmfaoo

[fresh timber]

Idk if that’s worth

[rancid juniper]

no dont think so

[fresh timber]

seems to close to much fastre

[mortal grail]

Hahaha they still have 8gb 5060 Tis

[fresh timber]

or slightly faster

[mortal grail]

Wtf this gen is such a crap gen

[fresh timber]

should have been a 12gb card

[rancid juniper]

the more you buy the more i skip VRAM

[mortal grail]

I look forward to nvidia's sales numbers

[fresh timber]

its still going to be good

watch

have u see the nvidia discord sir

[sinful blade]

I’ve been looking around $110

[fresh timber]

these sheep buy anything

[mortal grail]

I can't WAIT to see how much people who ramble on about this crap don't vote with their wallet

[rancid juniper]

oof, tough sell

[sinful blade]

They exist

Just not around me

[fresh timber]

might as well get a 1070 or omething

[tranquil pebble]

8500g has a lot going against it, including limited PCIe lanes

[fresh timber]

dontforget the C cores

[sinful blade]

That’s like, 10% less perf

[sinful blade]

It was so bad

[fresh timber]

u can find it at the price point ur liking much easier

[sinful blade]

(If anyone of you had a 5700XT, lmk)

[rancid juniper]

found this on mercari, slightly faster than a 5700xt

[fresh timber]

worth ngl

thats a nice looking card

[fresh timber]

🤮

[tranquil pebble]

only 2 full fat cores

[fresh timber]

disgusting

[rancid juniper]

mobile ah cpu

[fresh timber]

it prob is a mobile cpu too

slapped it on a dekstop

[sinful blade]

I need a similar to 5700xt, at $120>

[rancid juniper]

something similar huh

[fresh timber]

just save ur money bruh

[rancid juniper]

lol

[sinful blade]

I gotta afford a van part too, and a new PSU, and case

[fresh timber]

get to saving

work overtime

idk

[sinful blade]

My job is college

[fresh timber]

oo, how much they pay?

[sinful blade]

-$1300

[fresh timber]

... thats cheap

[sinful blade]

It’s an IT course

[fresh timber]

damn

[rancid juniper]

😔

[tranquil pebble]

lol I paid $110 for MI50 which would curb stomp that thing

[rancid juniper]

i almost forgor about radeon instinct

[tranquil pebble]

I'm going to get an MI6 eventually just for the funny name

[rancid juniper]

can you even game on those cards?

[tranquil pebble]

MI50 yes, idk about MI6

[rancid juniper]

i see

[sinful blade]

Time to game on a K80

[tranquil pebble]

MI50 has a mini DP out and supports DirectX 12

which is weird for a compute card

[tranquil pebble]

yep that's what I bought

[rancid juniper]

it sits right there next to the 5700xt

[tranquil pebble]

came in excellent shape

[rancid juniper]

nice

[tranquil pebble]

except in fp64 compute it will crush even a 5090

its a specialty card

to game on it is a waste of what it can really do

[rancid juniper]

power of a compute accelerator

lol whatever

[tranquil pebble]

its basically just telling you not to complain about issues before updating driver lol

[rancid juniper]

too bad that their recent driver is not whql certified (optional)

[fresh timber]

i get the same thing

[rancid juniper]

yea i remember

[fresh timber]

i got off after it felt choppy at 70 fps for some reason

[rancid juniper]

the hair fuzziness/flickering is INSANE

dayum

[fresh timber]

frrrr

the spiderman games look bettre on my ps5

[rancid juniper]

setting it to TAA removes most of it

smh

guess no SMAA

[fresh timber]

i just use what eve default is

[rancid juniper]

i think that was FSR AA

[fresh timber]

hecks out

[rancid juniper]

im using TAA for this

[fresh timber]

dont get me wrong, its an amazing game

just has perforamnce sissues

but not major ones that make u quit the entire game

[rancid juniper]

alr

[fresh timber]

ima beat it, trust

[rancid juniper]

looks very good

[spring spire]

hi gents, any coupon codes? about to drop 1600 on a monitor and was wondering if theres at least a 5% code available? anything helps tbh

[worn wave]

Don't think Newegg does global coupons

[craggy shoal]

We won't know 💀💀

[spring spire]

lmaoo ok thanks bros

[craggy shoal]

👍🎅🏿

[sinful blade]

What monitor?

Before you buy

[hoary zodiac]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAxzbk7CrkQ

imagine paying thousands for incompentent repairs

[spring spire]

Asus 27 oled 480hz

[hoary zodiac]

model number?

[spring spire]

Before you say it yes monitor is 1k but $380 are taxes and $280 is shipping

[frigid stag]

It’s that new asus oled

[spring spire]

Yes

[frigid stag]

That’s very expensive ngl

[hoary zodiac]

average asus product

[spring spire]

I was debating between that one and LG one but apparently Asus best one so

[sinful blade]

Send us the link

[hoary zodiac]

oh it's ROG

that's why

lmao

[spring spire]

Well they all share same price ; The rog, the inzone, and the LG

They’re all $999 or $1100

[hoary zodiac]

is it a 4K display?

[frigid stag]

Hop

Nop

1440

[hoary zodiac]

damn

[spring spire]

https://www.newegg.com/global/ar-en/asus-pg27aqdp-27-qhd-480-hz-rog-swift-oled-black/p/N82E16824281326?srsltid=AfmBOoqRDMofa3a7TE2Hbtb0G-K65FmC0xFBg3g4XasuXLZxXrPxGQmS

[velvet summit]

https://tenor.com/view/dr-house-house-md-cursed-the-curse-cursed-images-gif-9514785705741002263

[frigid stag]

It’s expensive cause it’s oled and the only 480hz oled

[spring spire]

4k is capped at 240hz and tbh i play competitive so i wouldnt use it properly

[spring spire]

Theres only 3, but yeah

Rog one and Inzone m3s are best ones

Rog wins bc of the oled care tech they have

[hoary zodiac]

it better does

$1000 for an oled it better not burn in within a year

[frigid stag]

Oh it will

Eventually

[spring spire]

[velvet summit]

[frigid stag]

Idk it’s up to u. U can get a 360hz oled for half the price or a 540hz tn/ips

[hoary zodiac]

is high end TN still trash?

[spring spire]

I cant stand tn

[hoary zodiac]

or are they like

[frigid stag]

Hasn’t been in years

[hoary zodiac]

barely tolerable

[spring spire]

And ips i have a 360.. just wanna try oled and 2k

And tbh, oled 360hz here ends up at $1100-$1200

So i figured, why not the extra $400 for a newer better panel

[frigid stag]

Fair enough I guess

[hoary zodiac]

it's like the price of an entire monitor

[velvet summit]

unless you're winning competitions, i dont really see a point in over 240hz panels

💀

[frigid stag]

It feels smoother

[hoary zodiac]

I cap my 300Hz display to 60Hz

[frigid stag]

Idc about winning personally I do that anyway

[spring spire]

Im just balling out theres nothing that makes sense in this purchase if im being honest

[velvet summit]

by like 4ms

[hoary zodiac]

for efficiency

[frigid stag]

It’s that much??

I thought it was less

[nocturne flicker]

TN is trash can confirm, I live there

[velvet summit]

er, less than that for 480 to 240 i think

[hoary zodiac]

the thing is

[velvet summit]

lemme calculate

[hoary zodiac]

in a couple years you'll see a $400 monitor that outperforms that monitor

[frigid stag]

Eh

[spring spire]

Probably

[hoary zodiac]

maybe not $400

[spring spire]

But you can say that with most things

[hoary zodiac]

yeah but

there is a massive diminishing return gap here

[frigid stag]

It being glossy is probably the biggest pro

[velvet summit]

2ms lower latency between 240 and 480

[frigid stag]

Even Linus noticed a difference and he’s kind of a boomer

So the 480 is definitely something

[velvet summit]

he noticed a difference between 240 and 480?

[hoary zodiac]

it's a lot of money to spend for a monitor

[frigid stag]

Yeah and 360 to 480

[nocturne flicker]

Linus is not a benchmark for the average person

[hoary zodiac]

anything past 240Hz and the prices skyrocket

[spring spire]

Im aware, i just wanna be able to say i got the best setup lmao

[hoary zodiac]

surely there's other things you can upgrade with that money

like a better gpu, ram, ssd

[frigid stag]

If you want to get one if you want to and enjoy it

Glossy monitors are peak

[spring spire]

I mean pc maybe, peripheral wise no way

[hoary zodiac]

I mean it's your money but there are a lot more things that money could go towards

[spring spire]

But i dont need a better pc for this current setup imo

[velvet summit]

how 💀 i barely even notice the difference between 144 and 240, which is like a 4ms difference, so that would be double the difference of 240 to 480, and even less from 360 to 480 🧐

[frigid stag]

144 is like the easiest

144 to 240 is huge

[velvet summit]

4ms difference

[frigid stag]

144 feels delayed if you’ve seen 240, it’s weird

[spring spire]

I care more about the oled and 2k than the diff between 360 and 480, but if im buying a new display might as well get the one with better hz just because

[velvet summit]

4ms more delayed assuming the display driver doesnt have a significant amount of latency added from that

[spring spire]

I guess cpu or graphic card, but i will upgrade that soon enough

I tend to blow money on unnecessary stuff

[frigid stag]

This is 240 mouse feel https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/525905837978288132/720400213973663744/20200610_171003_1.mp4?ex=679fedfb&is=679e9c7b&hm=e1a6a9ed1ec6b8de28c5f030b3c49fd2392721d83cdae3eb1089edd9444d773f&

[rancid juniper]

man 2

[velvet summit]

how do you expect to convey this on a digital video lmao

also i have a 240hz monitor

[frigid stag]

You can still see it. It’s like there’s more of the cursor on the screen

[pliant berry]

Can i just ask, what the hell is that mouse cable

[frigid stag]

Oh that

[velvet summit]

degloved wire

[frigid stag]

That for lower emi

[velvet summit]

???

[spring spire]

Call me schizo but i can notice the diff between every HZ jump if its more than 120+ difference

Ofc you gotta somewhat “look for it” but its noticeable

[frigid stag]

That’s perfectly normal lol

[hoary zodiac]

that's normal

that's a HUGE jump

[frigid stag]

Wouldn’t be normal if you couldn’t

[spring spire]

Yes but some ppl argue you cant

I say skill issue

[hoary zodiac]

it depends

on the game

[frigid stag]

Don’t listen to editors

[hoary zodiac]

but for competitive games

you can definitely notice

[pliant berry]

But can you notice 120hz from 121hz?????

[frigid stag]

They use 4k with vsync on at max settings and 60 fps with stock bloated windows and dual ccd amd CPU’s

[pliant berry]

Umm what

[frigid stag]

Something to do with shielding between the wires, I can’t remember exactly what it was for

[velvet summit]

i did the calculations a while ago (of raw latency of refresh rate, ignoring gtg latencies and such)

[pliant berry]

First off, looks like reverse psychology, second emi typically isn’t a huge issue for digital signal

[velvet summit]

i just see regular wires with no shielding?

[hoary zodiac]

meanwhile I just gimp my laptop by capping it to 60Hz

[mortal grail]

https://tenor.com/view/perry-the-platypus-phineas-and-ferb-pnf-dr-doofenshmirtz-perry-gif-26543370

[velvet summit]

honestly seperated wires just give a bigger chance of catching on something and breaking

[frigid stag]

They’re more separated but also less drag from cable

[mortal grail]

Theo when he walks up on the Feb 6 restock
https://youtu.be/SY4IADzMcDE

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-guy-isabelle-rip-and-tear-video-game-gif-16716710

[fresh timber]

achat

wanna know what i want

a free 99 5090

for free

[cursive compass]

hi

[velvet summit]

a mysterious displayname

[frigid stag]

Looks like a nice album cover

[misty sparrow]

beer

[gilded kraken]

no

this is just doubling down on bad taste

wait that says beer can chicken no beer flavored

Thats compltely different than terrible beer flavored

[dusk knot]

Hello wegg

[wraith fern]

W

[fresh timber]

WWWWWWWWW

[icy ore]

Ew wtf

[velvet summit]

Diy ac polarity tester frfr

(don't do this, just stick the multimeter probes into the socket without this nonsense that is way more likely to cause you to be shocked, even with wagos)

How you're supposed to do it

Or the more convenient method

[fresh timber]

mhh

i keep haing ping issues in games

[velvet summit]

https://www.waveform.com/tools/bufferbloat try running this

[fresh timber]

Kek I know it’s bad, nature of cable

iv been having problox problems for a while now

sense wensday

i ❤️ xfinity

atleast my ping isnt like this unloaded

[velvet summit]

that would be your router, also your router is somehow worse than my isp router

unloaded latency would be your isp's fault, the loaded latency would be mostly your router's fault

which technically would be your isp's fault if you use your isp router

[fresh timber]

yeah i use their stuff, i think i found the problem

i replaced a switch, and now i have problem

[velvet summit]

but yeah, mine is grade B

not terrible not great

[fresh timber]

no problem before switch

ima go replace switch

with old one

[cedar compass]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/852302171286405201/1329854457432899646/Businessing.gif

[fresh timber]

troubleshooting shows this

looks like its a everything is a problem rn problem

anythign comcast.net problem

[spark halo]

Then if that is the issue…

Consider a wifi repeater.

Or am i wrong?

[fresh timber]

1, wifi repeaters are poopoo, and 2, wired connection

problem started this wensday sooo this is very fun

[spark halo]

Aren’t there some repeaters that allow wired though

[fresh timber]

wifi repeaters are genuinly not recommended, but network bridges have some use

all repeaters do is clutter the wireless spectrum and cause ping issues and stuff

[spark halo]

https://tenor.com/view/pondering-83-ponders-pondering-with-83-83-pondering-session-thinking-83-gif-7996548172255634265

[fresh timber]

avoid at all cost unless u HAVE to

like my dads house has a spot with good signal, move a few feet to the left, signal dropped, sitaution where its useful

[tranquil pebble]

a small step above ethernet hubs lol

[velvet summit]

this is with the isp router

[fresh timber]

o lord

[tranquil pebble]

at least the industry abandoned ethernet hubs decades ago lol

[fresh timber]

you are broken

[craggy shoal]

imagine

[velvet summit]

you're the only one who has sent something that isnt using the isp router though afaik

[craggy shoal]

I use my ISP's router lol

[fresh timber]

i have 60% packet loss to an axfinity node

thingy

its so fun

[tranquil pebble]

Asus really made a spider router lol

[velvet summit]

damn

[craggy shoal]

60% packet loss is nuts

[velvet summit]

that's pretty good for an isp router then lmao

[velvet summit]

isnt that the $1k router

[craggy shoal]

Good performance. Poor amount of features 🫠

[velvet summit]

or near 1k

[craggy shoal]

Can't even put it in Bridge mode

[velvet summit]

💀

[tranquil pebble]

$700

[velvet summit]

well, better than it having terrible performance and also not having bridge mode

[craggy shoal]

I swear ISPs are in a competition to make the most limited router

[velvet summit]

close enough

[craggy shoal]

yeah but I want my own DNS server. Can't even do that

[velvet summit]

would rather invest in some ubiquiti gear at that price point

💀

can you disable the dhcp server

if you can, then you can set up a different dhcp server and set dns that way

[craggy shoal]

hmmmm idk why I didn't think of that

parents might get angry though that some of their stuff my suddenly not be working 💀

[velvet summit]

sometimes people (including me) forget that the dhcp server also configures dns

me trying to figure out what the issue was and then realizing that i didnt add a dns server to the dhcp server

[craggy shoal]

bruh ngl for the longest time I didn't know why my Nginx Proxy Manager instance wouldn't work. My dumb ass didn't know you needed a DNS server. My favorite slap on the head story to tell everybody

I felt like an idiot as soon as that information hit me 💀

[velvet summit]

💀

[craggy shoal]

Speaking of DNS, I kinda wanna see if I can put Linux on my Xbox One S

[velvet summit]

what does that have to do with dns

[hoary zodiac]

Imagine

[craggy shoal]

nothing at all I just wanna throw Linux on something that shouldn't have Linux

[hoary zodiac]

$200 router vs openwrt one

Who would win

[craggy shoal]

💀

[tranquil pebble]

Xbox One S as a DNS server

[craggy shoal]

OpenWRT

[hoary zodiac]

Pregnancy test

[velvet summit]

💀

[tranquil pebble]

Put Linux on an Arduino if you want a real challenge

[craggy shoal]

bruh

[hoary zodiac]

Define arduino

Is it just the arduino

Or can you add stuff to it

[craggy shoal]

already gave my PS4 to my gf. That's not an option anymore

My brother has his PS4 though so hmmmm

[tranquil pebble]

just needs to execute on the microcontroller itself, add RAM ICs or whatever else

[velvet summit]

modify the kernel to work on ps3

[hoary zodiac]

Is it even possible

[tranquil pebble]

it would be impossible to do without adding something lol

but yes it is, just EXTREMELY hard

[hoary zodiac]

I know it's possible to run linux on some variants of the esp32

[craggy shoal]

I have a 2014 Mac Mini in my closet hmmmm

not crazy enough though

Actually would be the least crazy thing. Basically giving it a new life atp

[tranquil pebble]

https://hackaday.com/2023/10/13/because-you-can-linux-on-an-arduino-uno/

[tranquil pebble]

worlds slowest linux install

[tranquil pebble]

esp32 is cake compared to that link lol

[craggy shoal]

I gave my gf a MacBook recently and she gave me back her Dell. I think imma do something with that

Now to decide which distro

(And no I'm not doing Mint)

[tranquil pebble]

Arch?

[craggy shoal]

Might do Arch tbh

yeah

[velvet summit]

templeos

[craggy shoal]

TempleOS eventually lol

[fresh timber]

good thing it wasnt my end

[craggy shoal]

The fact that Arch isn't on this random list of the best daily Linux distros absolutely means that I should install Arch on this thing

[fresh timber]

i was not in the modo to take the modem to the xfinity store

yes xfinity man, im having problems, gives me the same exact modem back

[tranquil pebble]

yet Manjaro is there...

[craggy shoal]

lolll

Nah that's just Arch on easy mode

[tranquil pebble]

and not EndeavourOS which is probably better than Manjaro anyways

[fresh timber]

iv been running this pretty consistantly

[craggy shoal]

Bruh Arch is NOT for beginners 💀

BitTorrent Download (recommended) bruh

[velvet summit]

the funniest thing is there being a torrent for bittorrent

you gotta torrent to start torrenting

[tranquil pebble]

Depends. Someone who is a beginner at Linux but understands enough concepts will still be ok.

Assuming they also RTM

[tranquil pebble]

That is probably for switching torrent clients/updating

[craggy shoal]

BRUH WHY ARE THERE SO MANY DOMAINS TO DOWNLOAD ARCH

literally updated today lmao

[sage sluice]

im surprised torrenting doesnt have more limitations

[tranquil pebble]

Arch has a metric crap ton of mirrors

[sage sluice]

considering its typical use

[tranquil pebble]

This is not a bad thing

[craggy shoal]

oh okay

[sage sluice]

2005

[craggy shoal]

Yeah I'm putting Arch onto my Ventoy drive.

[fresh timber]

ew

you dont use netbootxyz?

[craggy shoal]

never used it 💀

[wraith fern]

Te quiro?

Oh

I want to

Nvm

[craggy shoal]

huh?

[velvet summit]

how would you limit a peer to peer network without just fully blocking it

[craggy shoal]

huh? 😭

[velvet summit]

also torrenting is a very valuable resource outside of it's not-as-legal use

having decentralized storage of a software is very useful

[wraith fern]

Well that’s not how it’s spelled

I want is yo quiero

[craggy shoal]

I have a girlfriend

[velvet summit]

you're less reliant on a single server to distribute the same copy of a file to many users (lower costs)
and with a bunch of people seeding, it also means that hackers can't gain access to a storage server and completely delete everything, since someone would have a copy that's seeding as well

[velvet summit]

you're so portuguese

https://tenor.com/view/markiplier-confetti-yipee-gif-26461456

[craggy shoal]

Start installing Arch Linux
Dell laptop starts beeping like it's a bomb
"BEEP... BEEP... BEEP..."

This isn't fun

I need to take this beeper out of this laptop fr

Project for when it's day time fr 😭

[fresh timber]

real

[craggy shoal]

Rip

Tomorrow project fr

bruh

KEYBOARD DOESN'T WORK

breh

Actually impossible to install on a Dell laptop apparently

mmmmmmm

I need a better boot drive bruh

256GB flash drive ain't enough

(for installing OSs btw)

I should get a Thunderbolt M.2 enclosure fr

Probably gonna move this to #building-and-recc-chat so I'm not spamming #general-chat with this

[wise wigeon]

ugh I've been wanting to build all week, wasn't expecting to be so damn sick on my more free days

[craggy shoal]

man that's gotta suck

[wise wigeon]

yeah i got a pack week next week too

[sage sluice]

🃏

[craggy shoal]

🃏

[wise wigeon]

like 6 hours of lecture to inscribe into my memory between now and wednesday among other things throughout the week

havent played a vidja game in like a week

[velvet summit]

there's also a #linux-and-android

[craggy shoal]

oh yeah of course

[proud jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/bocchi-hitori-goto-depressed-bocchi-the-rock-gif-27672004

[gleaming sedge]

https://a.co/d/fkQFKkZ

This be a decent hard drive for my plex server?

I haven't had to bad of luck with wd drives so far with my almost 6 year old one running fairly fine

[craggy shoal]

Go with a WD Red

[gleaming sedge]

What's different between them?

[craggy shoal]

https://www.westerndigital.com/solutions/color-drives

If you're serious about storing stuff, there's also these:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08H1T666Y?ie=UTF8&th=1

I recently got a pair of these lol

[gleaming sedge]

I mean my library it not even at 40 movies yet and I'm using a Das and just needed something to store the movies on since the m.2 on the mini pc is getting full

[craggy shoal]

I mean yeah the 4TB Blue won't be that bad

You'll fill that thing pretty quick and realize that you should've gone with a WD Red or something else meant for a NAS/DAS setup anyways

(I thought 2TB was enough lol)

[velvet summit]

current wd red line is SMR

[craggy shoal]

Blue is okay if it's just a single drive. I wouldn't try to do RAID with it though

[velvet summit]

red plus is cmr

[craggy shoal]

yeah

CMR is better for RAID, right?

(iirc)

[velvet summit]

cmr is better for write

smr is fine for read, though terrible for write

tbf a plex server is unlikely to be writing often unless you need to add movies

[craggy shoal]

The Blue might be better then I guess

I ended up putting Fedora on this laptop (like any sane person would do)

[wise wigeon]

wow people even bought u[p the weird blower style 7900xtx

[velvet summit]

wd red is made to be in a nas enclosure though, i believe it has better resistance to vibrations
though i dont think wd blue would be significantly worse?

[craggy shoal]

That's also a 5400rpm drive just btw

For just a little over double your money, you can have a faster drive with triple the storage
https://www.amazon.com/HGST-Ultrastar-HUH721212ALE600-3-5-Inch-Internal/dp/B07Y8GF5M6

[tacit quiver]

god bless this laptop

24gb ram usage

[craggy shoal]

Figma balls

[tacit quiver]

running butter smooth

[craggy shoal]

lol

Zach

[topaz crown]

zach's computer is slow

[sage sluice]

Zach

[topaz crown]

zach's computer is slow

[proud jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/bocchi-the-rock-gif-27066727

[tacit quiver]

figma's business model is gonna work on me. free for students to get you hooked, then they make you pay when u graduate.
this is the best software i have used in ages

[craggy shoal]

I have three laptops: one with Linux, MacOS, and Windows

Zach

[topaz crown]

zach's computer is slow

[craggy shoal]

Zach

Zach

[topaz crown]

zach's computer is slow

[craggy shoal]

eee

[sage sluice]

Motor's computer is slow

[craggy shoal]

:0

Which one?

[hoary shoal]

computer

[craggy shoal]

YOOO

[sage sluice]

Proof by example

[icy ore]

Poor zach

[topaz crown]

zach's computer is slow

[craggy shoal]

FEDORA DOES BIOS UPDATES FROM SETTINGS

new daily fr

[sage sluice]

Help me i cant find a gf

[craggy shoal]

Daily Linux machine fr

[sage sluice]

Oh no bot

Whats the bot help thing

[hoary shoal]

-1 rep fedora user

[craggy shoal]

Guys tell me how I have like so many servers, three dailyable laptops, and a desktop, and I still have a gf

[craggy shoal]

I use all three OSs goober

[tacit quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/nerd-nerd-emoji-nerd-emoji-cube-nerd-cube-glasses-emoji-gif-26572275

[craggy shoal]

mf acts like I daily just Fed 😭

[hoary shoal]

-1 rep macos user

[tacit quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/nerd-nerd-emoji-nerd-emoji-cube-nerd-cube-glasses-emoji-gif-26572275

sorry motor

[misty sparrow]

what did you say now?

[sage sluice]

😨

[hoary shoal]

quit your flexing

[craggy shoal]

life too easy fr

lol

[misty sparrow]

what if I don't want a girlfriend?

[craggy shoal]

for those who want a girlfriend*

[tacit quiver]

ew why is the text on macos transparent

on the right side

😭

[craggy shoal]

Fill it

[tacit quiver]

much better

[craggy shoal]

yerr

[tacit quiver]

guys the file explorer is literally a smily face how could you not like this operating system

[misty sparrow]

if any of you see me using MacOS you'll know i've turned into a skinwalker

[tacit quiver]

MacOS my goat

i will glaze it til i die

[craggy shoal]

you mean y'all can't adapt to three operating systems simultaneously?

same fr

[tacit quiver]

motor how many times u gonna mention you use all 3 😭

[craggy shoal]

just trying to flex

Zach

[topaz crown]

zach's computer is slow

[craggy shoal]

^just a reminder

lol

Literally just installed Fedora like an hour ago. Late night activities

[hoary shoal]

cant forget templeos

[tacit quiver]

NOOOOOOO

[misty sparrow]

that's what she said (but not with operating systems)

[craggy shoal]

YO PAUSE

Yeah I use Fedora. Yeah I go to the website to download and install the program. What's your problem?

[hoary shoal]

the only reason you do that is because your package manager is balls

[misty sparrow]

(but not with operating systems)

[devout forum]

Y'know what I am as a Windows user?

Not effing insane lmao

Honestly I despise the "culture" of buttholery around Linux

[inland pulsar]

whats the best 500 or less white pc on jawa

i meant to semd tjat in build chat

[tacit quiver]

i made another superset of that meme

[craggy shoal]

Calling another community "buttholery" is kinda buttholery imo

[tacit quiver]

hopefully we can all agree on that

[devout forum]

"Oooooh you're trying to get into Linux, how dare you not know already how to perfectly use this incredibly complex and obscure command line prompt, you imbecile" be like

[hoary shoal]

im on windows right now and im unhappy

i want to go back to linux

[devout forum]

And that's an actual post I saw on a forum

[hoary shoal]

thats mostly the arch community though

[tacit quiver]

i apologize for my message the timing was bad i had not read your message before sending that

[devout forum]

I just don't like the snobbery some of them loudly express

[hoary shoal]

theyre only helpful if your asking something they dont already know

[devout forum]

Oh no it's accurate lmao

I can take a joke

[craggy shoal]

Fixed it

[tacit quiver]

wow

you just wont stop lol

[hoary shoal]

how humble

[craggy shoal]

💀💀💀

[north crescent]

IQ is signed int, so Windows IQ actually really high

[tacit quiver]

oh brother we got a computer architect over here 😭

[devout forum]

Y'know why IQ is very funny?

People throw it around to show their "intellect"

But how many high IQ people actually know how to properly file taxes?

[nocturne flicker]

Me smart

Me can do taxes

[devout forum]

That's not like a professional taxman

[north crescent]

Me IQ is 1, super high, I is taxes myself

[nocturne flicker]

Me don't know how to have good talk with strangers

[devout forum]

To the best of my knowledge IQ tests measure a very narrow slice of the human mind

And such they kinda feel like a tool for division

[hoary shoal]

its just pattern recognition right?

[nocturne flicker]

Also I have a very hard time with recognizing rough estimates of imperial length units

[misty sparrow]

mhm

[devout forum]

You having high IQ doesn't mean you'll realize you're about to be robbed as you turn into the back alley wearing a 25k dollar Rolex watch

So it's like

[nocturne flicker]

12 inches in a foot, yeah good okay. Ask me to guestimate how many inches something is without a ruler is pain

[velvet summit]

Be street smarts, and maybe some smarts smart

[north crescent]

Only smort people dont know imperial

[misty sparrow]

just measure things using subway footlongs

they're technically not rulers

[devout forum]

It's easy
12 inches in a foot, however many feet in a mile, so that times 12 inches in a mile
Easy!

[craggy shoal]

Just measure stuff in George Washington per Bald Eagles fr

[velvet summit]

They also aren't a foot long

[tacit quiver]

one of my professors said, if you're getting good grades but can't talk to people, go out and party a bit more. the hit to your grade is worth it if you can build people skills

[devout forum]

It's stupid easy, stupid!

[misty sparrow]

damn i've been lied to all my life

[devout forum]

THIS

[velvet summit]

Subway's footlongs are like more like 11 inches

[nocturne flicker]

They are like 11 inches or something yeah?

[devout forum]

People skills and connections are worth SIGNIFICANTLY more in life than a 0.1 increase in GPA

[north crescent]

Prolly closer to 10 now-a-days I'd imagine

[velvet summit]

Perhaps

[nocturne flicker]

This is what I fill my head with. Video games, random bits of lore and history and the length of a Subway footlong

[devout forum]

You will live the rest of your life with the connections you build in university

And you'll likely get opportunities to make money with those connections

[misty sparrow]

can't believe they raised the prices of footlongs and lied about them actually being twelve feet

i miss five dollar footlongs

[nocturne flicker]

Did somebody say $12 ten inches?!?!?!

Everybody loves then

[misty sparrow]

no meal included

if you include a "meal" it's three dollars more

[velvet summit]

Foot long bill

[nocturne flicker]

If you include a normal amount of deli 'meat' it'll be 3 dollars more

[velvet summit]

Put a whole onion on my sandwich

[nocturne flicker]

12 dollars for a 10 inch sub with 5 slices of ham and one and a half slices of cheese

Don't worry it is a new item. 30% more

Just don't ask more what

[misty sparrow]

and when you get to paying, there's an option for a tip

on top of that

[nocturne flicker]

Would you like to pay 25% extra for a poorly put together sandwich that had very little besides veggies so we can skip out on paying our employees?!?!

[hoary shoal]

subway should be subject to the same scrutiny as the ruler manufacturers

[nocturne flicker]

Subway should be bankrupt

[misty sparrow]

i feel like i should blame mcdonalds for raising prices

[nocturne flicker]

Delete it

Delete them all

McDonalds more like McDon'tAlls, Taco Bell more like Taco Bull, get rid of them all

[misty sparrow]

they say that you can make stuff for cheaper at home than going to fast food

but i wonder if getting the ingredients and doing it yourself is actually cheaper

[nocturne flicker]

People coming in for a $9 crunchwrap supreme that is thinner than a pancake and is 3 hours old and be like this is okay. Thank you for letting me waste money

[craggy shoal]

If a burger from McDonald's costs $5, you can buy the ingredients from a grocery store for maybe like $25. But you can have 10 times the amount of burgers, which would be $50 in McDonald's burgers

[velvet summit]

That used to be false, fast food used to be so cheap that it was actually cheaper than cooking yourself

Unless you bought everything in bulk

But fast food is now trying to make more profit and raising prices while also lowering quality even more

[misty sparrow]

If you get the $6 combo in the Taco Bell app you can get a full meal which contains the crunchwrap supreme. Don't know how to top that at my house

[nocturne flicker]

You can. It is still garbage

[misty sparrow]

I thought the crunchwrap supreme had a lot of stuff in it

[hoary shoal]

its gotten flatter

[nocturne flicker]

Fast food companies be like: We'll fix customers being pissed about out prices by signing a $200mil contract with random singer to sell a preexisting combo meal

[misty sparrow]

for McDonald's ads I always thought even the burger displayed in the ad looked terrible

[hoary shoal]

like they even need advertising

they could stop altogether and lower ther prices by whatever $300mil a year and make more money

[misty sparrow]

why do they pay their CEOs so much money when that money can be spent somewhere else

starbucks CEO got paid $100 million upon getting the job...and can work from home

[hoary shoal]

what do they even do? they just have other people do the work for them

[wraith fern]

What a sigma

[hoary shoal]

what does the hiring process for a ceo even look like?

[wraith fern]

If I were a ceo I’d pay someone 20% of my salary to do my job for me

[wraith fern]

Bribe the board

[misty sparrow]

if i was the CEO i'd be like the owner of arizona tea

keep cheap prices, because no one needs to pay more than they should

[nocturne flicker]

Taco Bell has gone through major portion shrinkage and price increases for about 6 or so years now. YumYum brands or whatever they are called uses TB as a cash cow to make up for their other chains failing to make enough money

[misty sparrow]

speaking of YumYum Brands

KFC everywhere but America is profiting and doing experimenting with their menu and they're overall really great

but in American KFC they're failing, not experimenting at all and now they're advertising themselves as a place to get cheap food

KFC's their cashcow but not profiting in America....when it came from America

[devout forum]

KFC here is anything but cheap

[misty sparrow]

I did say advertising themselves

[devout forum]

Bruh

But yes KFC is expensive, they use the crappy store bought chickens so it's small and tastes like soy, and they don't even have cashiers anymore it's all digital displays you order on

COVID really screwed up humanity

[misty sparrow]

what part of the US are you in

because KFC near me still has cashiers and stuff, same with taco bell

[nocturne flicker]

It isn't. They have nearly 3.6x more KFC stores but only pull in about 35% more money with them compared to TB

And Pizza Hut is a disaster

[proud jackal]

fried chicken sounds good rn

[nocturne flicker]

Nearly 20k stores and PH can't even pull in 40% of what TB does

[random osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/jollibee-typing-thumbs-up-ok-using-computer-gif-8595883678002918508

[misty sparrow]

don't know where to get good fried chicken

[velvet summit]

Me sending misinformation on the internet

Spreading

[random osprey]

jollibee is goated. churches chicken second

in terms of fast food chicken

actual restaurant, gl with finding a good one

[pastel mist]

I wish Jollibee was in my area, I'd happily spend my money for their Fried Chicken weekly

[proud jackal]

fried chicken is so expensive

[misty sparrow]

what about popeye's?

[velvet summit]

You're expensive

[velvet summit]

Their quality varies so much that I give them a 3/10

[proud jackal]

you can afford me reeeeee

[velvet summit]

No I cant

[proud jackal]

i like popeyes over others.

[misty sparrow]

you keep asking for a 5090