general-chat

[frigid stag]

I would

[craggy shoal]

I love pain it my favorite

[rancid juniper]

first thing that pops up when i search up this cursed ah edition

[hoary zodiac]

It's got so much overhead

[mortal grail]

Youtube is the best source and this isn't even cap

[frigid stag]

It’s less bloated

[rancid juniper]

i guess

[lone mango]

Fr I was just saying that

[opaque sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/worried-concerned-research-computer-up-late-gif-15066747

[lone mango]

Lets ask in general about the graphics card in my system

Guys my temperature went up 5 degrees help

[rancid juniper]

24h2 on crack what is going on?

[craggy shoal]

Y'all don't like suffering for when something breaks for absolutely no reason? (everything breaks after a simple restart)

[velvet summit]

Unironically, IoT enterprise

[rancid juniper]

literally my pc situation on a sunday

[craggy shoal]

too late

[mortal grail]

Record low ram and yet record high bloat

[last mango]

Is xda a reputable source?

[lone mango]

Wait isnt that the one that is really clean

[rancid juniper]

based windows

[mortal grail]

It kinda is tbh

[rancid juniper]

somewhat

[velvet summit]

Yes

[last mango]

"Kinda"
"Somewhat"

[mortal grail]

It's basically the hub for a lot of programmers, xda

[last mango]

https://tenor.com/view/joe-biden-cmon-man-us-president-candidate-gif-1456414740428675068

[rancid juniper]

they mostly cover mobile topics tho

[mortal grail]

So it can be good but also you don't get the normie perspective

[rancid juniper]

i go on XDA for them phone mods

lmfao

[last mango]

So what was record low ram?

[rancid juniper]

rooting n all

[craggy shoal]

yer

[craggy shoal]

The

[mortal grail]

What now I'm the only one on server

[last mango]

Jesus!

[craggy shoal]

I'm not putting Server on my laptop 💀

[mortal grail]

Why not it's fun

[rancid juniper]

OS so broken it optimized itself somehow

[hoary zodiac]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ

[mortal grail]

Babe you never try new things

😭

[craggy shoal]

I'll put Android on a Surface Go but that's about it

[last mango]

It does really remind the old days where some program would be like a KB or few MBs

[rancid juniper]

why?

[last mango]

Speaking of server...

[hoary zodiac]

Debian is king

[craggy shoal]

For fun :) (I like suffering)

[rancid juniper]

lol

[lone mango]

Its like when this session I joined had a host with internet so bad that it actually helped the mission by freezing the enemies

[craggy shoal]

Speaking of server... [immediate silence]

[rancid juniper]

good training for IT people

[last mango]

Getting HP T730 tomorrow

[hoary zodiac]

Speaking of meat

[last mango]

Hopefully

[lone mango]

Bros internet was so bad it was actually good

[mortal grail]

And on a macbook or we break up 💔

[last mango]

https://tenor.com/view/enriquecamposc-gif-23156265

[rancid juniper]

Profiting from failure

[craggy shoal]

I have that too ;)

[mortal grail]

[velvet summit]

I love profiteering

[craggy shoal]

lol

MacBook for work and gaming laptop for gaming at work

[hoary zodiac]

I love privateering

[craggy shoal]

I bring both with me

[mortal grail]

Dual wielding nerd

[craggy shoal]

I remote into my Linux machines when I need a Linux machine too

Proxmox helps with that lol

Just spin up whatever distro I want

[rancid juniper]

Linux Enix

[mortal grail]

Square linux

Final fantasy Arch

[rancid juniper]

Good title

[mortal grail]

"It's perfect. 9/10" - Phoronix

[lone mango]

Its not perfect then

[mortal grail]

Yes that's the yoke

[lone mango]

[rancid juniper]

"Could be better. 7/10" - PCShamer

[lone mango]

[craggy shoal]

"Best game ever. 3/10"

And that's today's AAA standard

[rancid juniper]

✅

[misty sparrow]

i know this isn't #gaming but chat's dead there, playing GTAV and don't know what to pick

[lone mango]

"I hate this game, I love it" - PCAddict
(Destiny 2)

[mortal grail]

"It's not MY distro. 2.5/10" - Some guy

[craggy shoal]

You can kill either Michael or Trevor and Franklin gets either's money

[lone mango]

fr

[misty sparrow]

I have sidemissions for both so

[craggy shoal]

Deathwish then

[misty sparrow]

it seems kind of abrupt for the game to push this kind of choice on me

[craggy shoal]

bruh it's a game

[misty sparrow]

i know

[lone mango]

Bro ghost recon wildlands looks pretty good and runs pretty well too

[misty sparrow]

but it seems like this is the end

[craggy shoal]

They all three live if you pick Deathwish

[misty sparrow]

yeah i know but i expected a bit more to the game after doing that big score

it just seems sort of abrupt

[craggy shoal]

idk maybe play it more than once

[lone mango]

I think you came back to it after a while and were at the end already

[craggy shoal]

I played it more than once and it made sense the second time

[mortal grail]

Am I crazy or have I seen previews of this game for like 8 years now?

[craggy shoal]

Bruh that and Monster Hunter

[lone mango]

Idk

[mortal grail]

I wasn't wrong it actually is 8 years old

[lone mango]

I havent seen anything

[mortal grail]

But it keeps reappearing

[lone mango]

Yeah about to be

I wonder what kind of hardware will be needed to run a game like that and get 100 fps in 2025

[opaque sedge]

Guys how sus is this 💀

https://youtube.com/shorts/NamiXrQTJ4Q?si=pLbu6QftRMsi02rm

[misty sparrow]

no, i didn't but

i don't know it seems like if this is the end it's kinda abrupt

[rough zinc]

@mortal grail always did 🙂

[daring socket]

who plays rust ?

and how can I pre—-order the 50 series gpu if possible? Anyone?

[icy ore]

Good luck

[fickle narwhal]

Hii

[icy ore]

[hoary zodiac]

A steak dinner costs less than a McDonald's meal

Wild

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEjH775UeNg

is this still true after nearly 2 years?

[tranquil pebble]

at that point get a debug card lol

and yes, still pretty much true

[hoary zodiac]

tfw asus would shroud the entire board with cheap plastic and LEDs but not a 7 segment display which costs nothing to make

[tranquil pebble]

its seen as a "premium" feature to have that 7 segment on it

so they charge a lot for it

[hoary zodiac]

It's 99 cents

...for five of them

at aliexpress retail price

[tranquil pebble]

ik but that doesn't change how it gets marketed

[hoary zodiac]

consumer protection should be its own private industry

this day and age this stuff is getting wild

[elfin mural]

Nvidia has engraved something in my head

And I'm preaching it

5070 has 1000 less cudas than 4070 Super

5070 has 200 more cudas than 4070

[hoary zodiac]

Realistically

How much does it cost to upgrade this:

[fresh nova]

Guys

[hoary zodiac]

i7-7700
GTX 1060 6GB
2x8GB DDR4 2400

[fresh nova]

My advice for today is not to buy 50 series cards if you already own 40 series

[hoary zodiac]

The parts are all pretty antiquated

[fresh nova]

Jensen lied

The numbers are all ai generated frames

[hoary zodiac]

Is this a full rebuild scenario?

[fresh nova]

The real performance lift is only like 25% across the board

5070 is not 4090

In raw performance

[hoary zodiac]

Hmm

Is a 1080ti tier gpu going to be limited by a i7-7700

I'd say so

Damn

[tranquil pebble]

Nvidia only cares about AI now

[pseudo patrol]

its coming in feb so be prepared

scalpers await

[pseudo patrol]

more like 4060 with a little more performance lol

[opaque sedge]

Guys should i make hot chocolate

[pseudo patrol]

yes with marshmellows on top

and crushed peppermint

[opaque sedge]

Dont got marshmallows unfortunately

And peppermint either

[pseudo patrol]

plain is good too

[opaque sedge]

Just milk chocolate dark chocolate and milk

[pseudo patrol]

it's a perfect goto

ye go for it

on a cold day

[opaque sedge]

Fr thinking of getting a whiff of the cold air outside too before having it

Yk to make the hot choco more enjoyable

Should i do honey or cane sugar

[pseudo patrol]

just make sure not to drink it outside for too long, or it'll make it cold 😂

[opaque sedge]

Fr

[pseudo patrol]

cane sugar, i havent tried honey might interupt the flavor

[pseudo patrol]

is the 5070ti worth it, if i have a 3070ti

[elfin mural]

don't think so

especially since tariffs are gonna blow the launch prices out of the water

[tranquil pebble]

$1000 50 class cards here we come

[elfin mural]

and the cuda count is less than 4080

so it won't be worth the cash

i feel lucky to be an asian

lmao

tho most likely local distributors will scalp the prices

i'd rather buy a 4070s rn

if you must have nvidia

[pseudo patrol]

ye if you cant get the 50 series without the scalp prices jus get the original 40 series

its better for the price

[elfin mural]

50 series is a refresh of 40 anyway

you're missing out on 3x and 4x frame gen, but it doesn't matter

you still get the dlss 4 upscaler on all rtx cards

[pseudo patrol]

exactly, it's like the dlc pack of a 4070

[elfin mural]

$50 more and you get a much better gpu

[pseudo patrol]

that's why they wont be able to compare the raw performance to the 4090

since the 5070 is mainly incorporating ai to upscale

hence the price diff

[elfin mural]

as fast as 4090* (*dlss 4x frame generation enabled)

[pseudo patrol]

but still brings hype before people realize

[elfin mural]

it's funny that we now have to say buying an older gpu from nvidia is for better value

[pseudo patrol]

I bet Nexus is gonna make a vid about it right when it releases 🤣

[elfin mural]

steve is gonna meme all about it

"AI AI AI"
-Jensen 2025

[pseudo patrol]

This world is gonna run off AI before u kno it

AI is gonna be brainwashed in everyones mind lmao

[elfin mural]

that's what nvidia wants

they're trying to brainwash everyone into using frame generation

fake frames

[opaque sedge]

I present a big mug of hot chocolate

The milk solidified a big so i tried stirring it in

[tranquil pebble]

that's concerning

[opaque sedge]

Its the normal stuff?

[hoary zodiac]

It looks like skin cancer

[elfin mural]

my daily yapping about nvidia is not ending until reviews are out

jk

[hoary zodiac]

NgreedAI regime is real

[opaque sedge]

Not particles idk what its called in English but in my native language we used to call it the skin

[hoary zodiac]

What's your native language?

[opaque sedge]

Would form on warm milk

Nepali

[elfin mural]

tariffs never hit the companies

[hoary zodiac]

Oh

[elfin mural]

they hit us

the consumers

we take the L

[hoary zodiac]

People overseas aren't safe either

[elfin mural]

yeah

everyone is taking the L

[hoary zodiac]

Like

[opaque sedge]

Oh damn its literally called the milk skin lmao

[hoary zodiac]

Why

It's not like they don't have money

[opaque sedge]

But yh it was basically this stuff that i stirred in

[hoary zodiac]

They do have enough money

[elfin mural]

politics cough

[tranquil pebble]

oh thats what you mean by solidifying

[hoary zodiac]

I mean the companies

They're not struggling or anything

[elfin mural]

yeah

[opaque sedge]

Yeah sry abt my lack of vocab

[hoary zodiac]

Why do they need the extra cashflow

No fair

[elfin mural]

because yes

capitalism

[hoary zodiac]

But like

Is it even going to help

[elfin mural]

they wanna maintain the same profit margin

even after tariffs

[hoary zodiac]

Because how do they know it's not going to reduce consumer spending

[elfin mural]

so they will jack it all up

[tranquil pebble]

or increase it

[elfin mural]

exactly

tariffs are a perfect excuse

to raise prices

[hoary zodiac]

Don't China still profit the same?

Or any overseas exporters

[elfin mural]

yes

[hoary zodiac]

Is it just an artificial price increase

ughhhhhhhh

[elfin mural]

it's definitely artificial lol

[opaque sedge]

Greed all around the world

[hoary zodiac]

What happened to "no taxation without representation"

[tranquil pebble]

greed is human nature unfortunately

[hoary zodiac]

Ok that's starting to get political

Imma stop

[opaque sedge]

Ngl the reason why people tolerate capitalism is prolly cuz of the hope it gives the common man of him rising to the top

When it extremely unlikely lol

[hoary zodiac]

It is possible in a free market

[opaque sedge]

And capitalism is supposed to be this free market

[hoary zodiac]

What the tariffs do is limit the free market

This is economic theory still btw

Not political

[tranquil pebble]

people tolerate it because every other system is well... even worse

[hoary zodiac]

I'd disagree

[opaque sedge]

Yeah still gotta give capitalism credit for how much food it can manage to produce

[hoary zodiac]

I'd go into socialist economic policies but that economic thought has political connotations

[opaque sedge]

Yeah its cool thats a whole mess of jargon at the present

[hoary zodiac]

Australia is a social-democracy

See

Politics

Ughhh

I just want to talk about the economy

[opaque sedge]

Yeah not many big corps there right?

[hoary zodiac]

This topic is a landmine

[hoary zodiac]

Yeah about that....

[opaque sedge]

Oh god

[hoary zodiac]

The thing about social programs

They help disadvantaged people so they could participate more effectively in the workforce

It costs a lot of money yes but it also increase the efficiency of the economy

(trying to skirt around the political aspects of this topic)

[elfin mural]

That's the part a lot of us don't wanna spend

Greed takes over and yknow

I won't go deeper

[hoary zodiac]

Yeah the hard part is that basic necessities like food, healthcare and other services are going way up

You can't just not spend that money

I genuinely don't get it because it holds back the economy long term for short term "gains"

[elfin mural]

the illusion of money is very apparent

you have more in that moment, but then the whole economy is more inflated

and you feel like you have less money

so you want even more

it's an ugly loop

[proud jackal]

Is 5090 out yet

[hoary zodiac]

Jensen generated one with AI

[proud jackal]

What if

This is all just a physical ai simulation

[gilded kraken]

dang, AI should of made me more buff

[proud jackal]

WE ARE LIVING IN A SIMULATION

And that is what you're worried about

[hoary zodiac]

We are living inside a RTX 5090

I want simulated meat tbh

I wonder how that would taste like

https://tenor.com/view/star-trek-national-pecan-pie-day-pecan-pie-gif-12155108

[soft lance]

sup gamers anyone around

[wild lake]

New hardware news for me
Intel now bad
Amd now good

[spark halo]

https://tenor.com/view/doug-dimmadon-fairly-oddparent-deal-gif-9684451

Its financial pain in the very context.

[daring socket]

im long way from any retailer stores even online shopping wont help !! i'll try my luck tho

did AMD release or going to release something new?

[elfin mural]

amd is releasing new cpus and gpus soon

[opaque sedge]

Bruh wtf is this 💀

https://youtu.be/_4xnbyczg3o?si=G0TO3aMhVemRPfi2

Atleast they listed out some specs

[elfin mural]

funny ad

what the heck does Z2 Go mean

but i do know the word Go and S means cheaper and lower end

[opaque sedge]

Lower end version of amd’s new handheld focused apu lineup

[elfin mural]

z2 go is zen 3..

z2 is zen 4

z2 extreme is zen 5

why amd

why recycle older arch

[opaque sedge]

Rdna 2 as well

[elfin mural]

4c/8t

what is this joke that amd is pulling

4 cores is NOT a gaming cpu

[opaque sedge]

The regular z2 would be awesome as the lower end z2 tbh

[elfin mural]

yeah

[opaque sedge]

Zen 4 and rdna 3

[elfin mural]

it should've been the z2 go

lol

or at least

[opaque sedge]

Prolly for power efficiency

[elfin mural]

give the go 6 cores

4 is too little

[opaque sedge]

Zen 4 or 5 for efficiency

[elfin mural]

not really, zen 3 is less efficient than 4 and 5

this is clearly an attempt at recycling stuff

[opaque sedge]

Yh which is why they cut down the cores

[elfin mural]

all 15-30w tdp

[opaque sedge]

The z2 go is not much of an upgrade over the steam deck’s apu it seems

[hoary zodiac]

4c/8t

What is this? Kaby Lake?

[opaque sedge]

This was benched in windows apparently the steam os version might perform better

[lunar coral]

GM

[hoary zodiac]

Maybe they already have the fabs with TSMC

[elfin mural]

i mean it's faster than steam deck

[hoary zodiac]

Maybe they're putting them to use or something

[elfin mural]

and that's nice

but bleh

it's not a revolution

[hoary zodiac]

But like

For a mobile device

[elfin mural]

it's an evolution

[hoary zodiac]

Why are they using zen 3

I get recycling arch... On desktop

Like for athlons

[opaque sedge]

Also there are rumors that suggest anyone will be able to download steam os onto a handheld pc soon so ig its possible for someone to make a kinda higher end steam deck

[hoary zodiac]

But mobile chips where efficiency matters more

Really?

[elfin mural]

steam os is returning

so it's a given

[hoary zodiac]

Can't they just use the bad bins as the lower tier chips

Or are they already bad bins

[elfin mural]

it's clearly to dump old stock

xd

just program some stuff in the bios

boom

different cpu

[hoary zodiac]

Maybe they're crap bins

[elfin mural]

old, crap bins

but in a mobile sector?

that's what i don't get

[hoary zodiac]

Use arch linux

[elfin mural]

the same case for laptops

[hoary zodiac]

Use big picture mode

Boom

[elfin mural]

just release cheap athlons

or smth

[hoary zodiac]

You technically can make a better steam deck

[hoary zodiac]

Maybe they saw intel's domination in that sector and just gave up

[elfin mural]

ig

[hoary zodiac]

But even then

Selling crap laptops is still an option

Intel does it

[elfin mural]

and they go for it

logical

[hoary zodiac]

They're dogwater but people buy them

[elfin mural]

from a business standpoint

[hoary zodiac]

Worse than 8th gen for $300 brand new

When you can get a used coffee lake for less

[elfin mural]

i mean if ur smart about purchases

like chase deals

you can get zen 3

but most people aren't smart so

[hoary zodiac]

Tbh even crap bin ryzens can dominate at the $300 e-waste pentium laptop tier

Like

[opaque sedge]

Man i’m still wondering what amd is gonna do with their gpus now

They’re clearly waiting for 5070 benchmarks

[elfin mural]

zen 2 with 4 cores is still better than pentium

[hoary zodiac]

It's viable

[elfin mural]

with 0 p cores

but all e cores

[fresh timber]

Buy normal hand held and install bazzite

[opaque sedge]

That 4090 perf claim musta scared them tbh

[fresh timber]

I don’t like the new z2 extreme, on paper it looks like a slower cpu than the z1

[elfin mural]

that claim means nothing

[hoary zodiac]

4090 perf**

[elfin mural]

nvidia markets frame gen

[opaque sedge]

Imma honest guys sometimes linux users sound like they are in a cult 😭

It must be really good tho

[elfin mural]

they kinda do

[hoary zodiac]

Nah we don't touch derivatives

[elfin mural]

but eh i don't care much

[hoary zodiac]

Pure distro + customisation > bloat

[fresh timber]

You want steam os, I just told you how to get steam os??

[opaque sedge]

I mean having a customizable os must be amazing

[hoary zodiac]

It is

[fresh timber]

people are so ignorant, omg I want steam os blah blah, but ignores how you get flipping steam os

[hoary zodiac]

Even ubuntu with KDE plasma (IMO the most bloated linux distro) is amazing

[craggy shoal]

"Download Linux"

Sore Fingies: this is a cult

[fresh timber]

like just because it comes with windows doesn’t mean it has to stay that way

[hoary zodiac]

There are so many customisation options

[hoary zodiac]

?

Who is "y'all"

[fresh timber]

You replied to fast for me to fix grammar

Move along

You need to give me atleast 5 seconds

[hoary zodiac]

It's not a grammar issue

[fresh timber]

20 seconds of in on a bumpy car

Shut up

And move along

[craggy shoal]

Sentence structure issue lol

[fresh timber]

IGNORE

FO

SCRAM

[craggy shoal]

Lmao

[hoary zodiac]

I just want to know where this came from

Sore didn't ignore anything?

[craggy shoal]

Router aura

[fresh timber]

Pent up anger from multiply arguments in different places

People seem to not understand that 90% of their complaints about steam os and hand held has already been solved

[hoary zodiac]

What's the fuss around steamos anyways

[opaque sedge]

Honestly dude im kinda tempted now

[hoary zodiac]

I can install any linux distro on a cheap x86 device and get a steamos experience

[craggy shoal]

Put Bazzite on it

[opaque sedge]

Lemme see if microcenter’s got any open box handheld

[hoary zodiac]

Bloat

[fresh timber]

Ask them, I tried it, it’s alright but windows has some things to offer as well

[opaque sedge]

Yeah related to bazzite

[hoary zodiac]

Install gentoo

Compile the kernel

[craggy shoal]

L opinion Windows also has bloat

[fresh timber]

People don’t know it exist

[hoary zodiac]

Yeah that's why it runs like crap

[fresh timber]

Debatable

[opaque sedge]

Your mom has bloat

[fresh timber]

I get the same fps on Linux and windows

[craggy shoal]

I’m saying bruh. I wish more people knew about it

[fresh timber]

I have e cores to run the bloat

[opaque sedge]

If she does get her some soda water or smth

[hoary zodiac]

I'm not talking about gaming

Gaming is going to be similar

[craggy shoal]

Bloat on deez nuts

[hoary zodiac]

I'm talking about how sluggish it is in day to day usage

[fresh timber]

People shill the steam deck too much cause of an os anything can run

[fresh timber]

It’s snappy when you brute force it

[craggy shoal]

fr

[hoary zodiac]

Simple things that should not take as much processing power as they do

[hoary zodiac]

You shouldn't have to

[fresh timber]

Hard not to with modern CPUs

Using Linux and windows, Linux requires brain cells, windows require less

[craggy shoal]

I wanna build a Bazzite gaming console so bad

[fresh timber]

It’s about ease of use

[hoary zodiac]

What does bazzite offer anyways

[fresh timber]

I recommend for things like htpc

[fresh timber]

Steam os

It’s great for handhelds

[hoary zodiac]

Yes but what features does it offer over other linux distros

Plug and play?

[fresh timber]

It’s handheld focused that’s what it offers

[hoary zodiac]

Gaming optimised?

[fresh timber]

Read what I said

[craggy shoal]

I had one for a second but I decided to get nerdy and try some AI things after not using Bazzite for a second

[fresh timber]

Then talk

[fresh timber]

Desktop mode

[hoary zodiac]

So

[craggy shoal]

Didn’t do what I wanted to so I tried with Windows and Ubuntu

[hoary zodiac]

I'm assuming the handheld optimisation are available on other linux distros as well

[fresh timber]

It’s just fedora linux

[craggy shoal]

I needed Docker and Bazzite kept complaining

[fresh timber]

I mean any Linux distro can prob install handheld helper thingy that controls your tdp and controllers

Have fun with one screen keyboard and such tho

[hoary zodiac]

To be fair you're using a gaming optimised distro

[craggy shoal]

Yeah exactly lol

[fresh timber]

handheld

[hoary zodiac]

They mess with the configs to make it specific to that application

Which might affect other usages

[craggy shoal]

Docker on a Steam Deck would be goofy lol

[hoary zodiac]

Not really

[fresh timber]

I bet I could get docker to run

[opaque sedge]

Thinking… hmmm

[fresh timber]

I ran docker on my bazzite install

[fresh timber]

Don’t

[pliant berry]

Have you tried podman instead of docker? Wondering since that’s what rhel uses which is also fedora based

[hoary zodiac]

I'd say you can get it running with any regular old linux distro

[opaque sedge]

Couldn’t find any open box ones at micro

[fresh timber]

Don’t

New hand helds next month hopefully

Z2 and z2 extreme

Plus ally sucks

[opaque sedge]

Only the legion go 2 has been announced so far

[craggy shoal]

What about the Legion Go?

[fresh timber]

Good

[craggy shoal]

Figured

[fresh timber]

I
I had one

Buy iPad and game stream instead, trust

[opaque sedge]

Oh damn looks like the higher end model has 32 gigs of ram

[craggy shoal]

I bought a Legion 5i instead. True raw performance instead of streaming (actually restored my faith so far in Lenovo laptops)

[fresh timber]

Which means the Igpu can have up to 32gb of vram

Ai work loses anybody!!

[hoary zodiac]

To be fair lenovo laptops are decent

[fresh timber]

Ew

[hoary zodiac]

You just have to get past the million mediocre ones

[fresh timber]

I have a Lenovo Chromebook

Ass

[hoary zodiac]

It's a chromebook

[fresh timber]

A Lenovo laptop

[hoary zodiac]

That applies to every single chromebook

[opaque sedge]

Damn looks like the new regular z2 chip the one in the middle is kind of a rebranded z1 extreme

Amd might have just give us crappier value 💀

[fresh timber]

Yup

[fresh timber]

??

It will cost less than z1 extreme and match it??

now is that crap value

[hoary zodiac]

AMD refresh

[craggy shoal]

I had a bad experience with an IdeaPad. I recently wanted a ThinkPad and then thought "if I’m spending this much money and basically just have a work laptop paired with a MacBook, I might as well get a gaming laptop" and a Legion 5i with Amazon's monthly payment plans (no APR) was an option on this guy

[opaque sedge]

Z1 extreme handhelds are discounted rn

[hoary zodiac]

Troll moment

[fresh timber]

Yeah

Wanna buy mines

[hoary zodiac]

The thinkpads are...

[opaque sedge]

We talking 500-600 bucks

[hoary zodiac]

Ughhh

[fresh timber]

Joke

I’m not selling it

[craggy shoal]

Lolll

[hoary zodiac]

Ever since the T580

They've turned into generic laptops

[opaque sedge]

Pretty sure the new z2 lenovo legion go 2 starts above those prices

But it is more feature rich ig

[hoary zodiac]

Thinkpad is now a marketing term rather than an actual product line

[fresh timber]

Tbh I just want a gaming laptop and a MacBook, both for different use cases

[craggy shoal]

Would've kinda been as a joke but I also wanted something with more cores. I thought it would've been funny to show up with a MacBook AND a ThinkPad; the most neckbeardy thing

[fresh timber]

Gaming laptop for my dads house, Mac for litterlry anything els

[hoary zodiac]

Thinkpads can be good

[craggy shoal]

Best combo ever for me so far

[hoary zodiac]

But you just have to do the research

Lenovo releases a lot of mediocre and cookie cutter stuff

Like Dell and HP

[opaque sedge]

Hmm i wonder how bazzite or other handheld friendly linux os would be like on the new asus rog tablet with the strix halo chips

[hoary zodiac]

They do have some genuinely good laptops

[fresh timber]

Yeah I took my setup to my dads once, my pc is too flippi by heavy

[craggy shoal]

Might still eventually get a used ThinkPad and throw Linux Mint on it

[hoary zodiac]

You just have to look hard enough

[opaque sedge]

Or the ai max bs name

[fresh timber]

Bazzite is just steam os recompiled, and modified

[craggy shoal]

Yeah gaming laptop is recommended

[hoary zodiac]

If you get the old T-series laptops with sockets you can upgrade them

And really mess around

[opaque sedge]

I effing hate the names they named their chips like elon musk names his kids

[hoary zodiac]

Those things are packed with features

[fresh timber]

I just hate how loud they are

[pliant berry]

Macbook + Framework

[craggy shoal]

BRUH THEY HAVE SOCKETS?

[hoary zodiac]

Yes

[craggy shoal]

Or thissssss

[craggy shoal]

Headphones (trust)

[hoary zodiac]

Although

I think they only go up to Ivy bridge

Which well

[craggy shoal]

Ehhhh

[fresh timber]

Man I don’t even be using headphones anymore, speaker gang

[hoary zodiac]

Getting a 3630QM alone can be $100

[craggy shoal]

Just give me an 8-core ThinkPad and I’m happy

[hoary zodiac]

For reference my 8250u laptop was ~$130 after upgrades

The old thinkpads are really good in terms of features

[pliant berry]

I don’t need a laptop but i kinda want a framework

[hoary zodiac]

But they are dated as hell

[hoary zodiac]

Sadly it's more cost effective to just buy a new laptop

Instead of paying for the modularity

[fresh timber]

I want 8 strong cores and a 4070

[hoary zodiac]

They really need to catch on

[fresh timber]

Then I want a Mac book pro for life things

[opaque sedge]

I’m so confused rn like is the z1e version available with steam os or not

[elfin mural]

there's now tuf A18??

18 inches laptop

[hoary zodiac]

Does it have airflow

[pliant berry]

just the idea of of being able to easily repurpose an old laptop and upgrade your own internals

[elfin mural]

yes

it does

[hoary zodiac]

Thinkpads used to fill that niche

They were great until lenovo killed it

[fresh timber]

Oh my flipping god

install bazzite for the 500th time

[elfin mural]

asus finally using that better hinge design

[hoary zodiac]

Thinkpads used to be rugged and meant for pro users

[elfin mural]

not that my a15 2023 has weak hinges but

[hoary zodiac]

Now they're just generic business laptops

[elfin mural]

this is better

on the a18

[hoary zodiac]

Same stuff dell and hp sells

[fresh timber]

It doesn’t matter if it natively supports steam os or not, it’s an x86 device install what ever os you want

[opaque sedge]

Lemme weigh my options here

[hoary zodiac]

Install gentoo

[opaque sedge]

Ok this looks like a real upgrade tho ngl

[hoary zodiac]

Compile everything

[opaque sedge]

Prolly gonna be over a grand tho

[hoary zodiac]

You should get a RTX 5090

Get jensen ai pilled

[opaque sedge]

[hoary zodiac]

AI can make you a prebuilt

AI solves everything

[opaque sedge]

The more you buy the more you save

[opaque sedge]

Can it make my parents love me?

[hoary zodiac]

It can generate pictures of meat

[fresh timber]

Unironically if I could afford it I’d buy a 5090

5090 and 13600kf at 1440p, what would go wrong

[opaque sedge]

60% gpu util enters chat

The 4090 is still bottlenecked at 1440p even with a 9800x3d

[fresh timber]

lol

[opaque sedge]

It struggles to maintain above 90% util

[fresh timber]

That new oled 27 inch 4k display is appealing

I don’t like larger screens

32 inches and 24 is too big and small for me

[sweet phoenix]

27" 4k is funny

[hoary zodiac]

Idea

Go to best buy

Compare the 27" 4K and 1440p displays

27" is tiny

I'd only get it if you can actually tell the difference between 1440p and 4k at that size

[fresh timber]

Tenders

[fresh timber]

I bet I can tell when 5090 isn’t at 60% usage lmfao

[hoary zodiac]

Still

I'd make sure

[fresh timber]

Nah I’ll impulse

[hoary zodiac]

4K is still on the higher price bracket after all these years

1080ti was a 4K card once

[fresh timber]

And id prob go 1440p anyways cause i mixed 1440p and 1080p and dragging windows between them sucks

And lining up wallpapers is a pain

[hoary zodiac]

Different monitor sizes would still make it a pain no?

Unless they're all 27"

[fresh timber]

They both the same size, that’s why pain

[hoary zodiac]

27"?

[pliant berry]

Windows scaling sucks

[fresh timber]

Yes

[craggy shoal]

This guy uses Axe 😭

[fresh timber]

My mom bought it

I don’t use it

TCP packet

[craggy shoal]

Good lol

[craggy shoal]

gf?

[fresh timber]

TCP packet

[opaque sedge]

Intel arc is out for blood 💀

https://www.reddit.com/r/AMDHelp/s/t4qzDxSEu7

[craggy shoal]

Get LittleBigMouse on GitHub

[fresh timber]

4k 1440p and 1080p in one build??

[opaque sedge]

Also guys

[craggy shoal]

Yeah

[opaque sedge]

It has a good ending tho the dude canceled the order

[fresh timber]

It’s Amazon, you just get your money back

[dusk knot]

He should have kept it

But the seller's name.....

On second thought, good idea

[mortal grail]

Who the hell says you can't cable manage a dan a3

I did it and it's almost bloody flawless

https://tenor.com/view/wilko-wilko-wilkes-wacky-wacky-waving-wacky-arm-man-gif-19344912

FEAR ME

[fresh timber]

FEAR MAGNETO

[mortal grail]

🧲

https://tenor.com/view/magic-how-do-they-work-magnets-ho-wtf-gif-15717467

[fresh timber]

Hey buddy I think you lost this

[velvet summit]

The one piece is real

[kind verge]

Yall i have a question

Ive bought PC fans and now i have 10 of them

6argb 4 non rgb

But i dont have enough Power ports

These ones

[icy obsidian]

get a centipede

[kind verge]

Ive seen a video and a guy Just plugs the rgb cable to Power the fans

Does It work ?

[kind verge]

I have a be quiet controller and 2 nzxt 😭🙏

[kind verge]

Or Will It just make the rgb work, not the fan itself

The guy said that this can Power 9 fans but It only has 3 Power ports

Im confused ngl

[velvet summit]

RGB ports only are used for jrgb

[kind verge]

Well im screwed

[storm narwhal]

ONE PIECE

[kind verge]

What about this though

[storm narwhal]

What in the wattpad is this anyway

Oh hello I'm here now

Discord did a discord

[velvet summit]

If you have daisy chain cables then you could do 3 fans per port ig

[kind verge]

A controller that should give Power to 9 fans but only has 3 Power ports

[velvet summit]

It's wuxiaworld

[storm narwhal]

Is that better or worse

[kind verge]

This?

[velvet summit]

It's not fan written at least
It's basically a publisher for translated novels lmao

[velvet summit]

Yes

[kind verge]

But It only has 1 Power port

[storm narwhal]

No way that's official

[kind verge]

2 rgb and 1 for Power

[pliant berry]

Bruh what is this

[kind verge]

Look

[velvet summit]

It actually is lmao
I think they started off unofficial? But they're currently one of the like 2 or 3 translated Asian novel translator sites

[velvet summit]

Yes, those are for fan power

[kind verge]

all 3?

[velvet summit]

Yep

[kind verge]

even if they dont have a pin

[velvet summit]

Your fans may be 3 pin but they still work on those

[kind verge]

oh alr

[velvet summit]

You see the tab in the connector? It's offset for that purpose

[kind verge]

Then i can connect all 10 fans 😭🙏

Thanks Bro

[fresh timber]

It’s getting srixky

[storm narwhal]

That is hilarioyz

Wow I can't spell thanks

[storm narwhal]

A precipice

[velvet summit]

You've been infected by the message directly above

I'm afraid it's terminal

[storm narwhal]

how long do I have left

[velvet summit]

Five

[storm narwhal]

That us not skibidi rizz

That is Ohio

[velvet summit]

💀

[dusk knot]

Down in Ohio

[velvet summit]

https://tenor.com/view/mumei-nanashi-mumei-七詩ムメイ-ホロライブ-hololive-council-gif-14043062473141849870

[kind verge]

Uhhh

I Just noticed Smth

my PSU apparently has leds

its an unknown company since i bought a prebuilt long ago

but the form of the led Is....

Peculiar

[sweet phoenix]

can you send a picture of the psu

[kind verge]

I got that Swastika PSU 😭🙏

[pliant berry]

Woah its a rgb fan psu!! Must be thermaltake 🧨

Jk idk

[tranquil pebble]

where I was born lol. Didn't stay for very long

[kind verge]

Its a vultech smth

I even searched It up

And theres no results for a 750w PSU

[tranquil pebble]

some company made a liquid cooled PSU

[pliant berry]

I think I remember that one

[tranquil pebble]

Imagine a 1337W PSU

[craggy shoal]

#building-and-recc-chat EXISTS IF YOU NEED TECH HELP

(throwback to last night)

gonna be a backseat mod about it idc

[paper verge]

is a 7700 better than a 6700

[elfin mural]

yes

[paper verge]

way better?

or

[craggy shoal]

Slightly

[elfin mural]

slightly yes

[craggy shoal]

If it's a $50 difference, go with the 6700

[elfin mural]

but isn't the 7700 an xt?

non-xt 6700 is slower

[sweet phoenix]

6700 is about on par with a 7600

6700xt is 10% above that, 7700xt is 10-15% on top of that

[craggy shoal]

ignore me then. Go for the 7700 XT if it's a $50 difference

[sinful blade]

Welp
Wife has picked her pc case she wants

https://mycherrytree.com/products/star-trek-picard-borg-cube-pc-sakura-pink-tower-case?srsltid=AfmBOopLFh0-RPS1pdKtu06Cr_mCJ9JJ1UMPKah6WPKiEIvcowDYQWuZ

[sweet phoenix]

Thats certainly a case of all time

[sinful blade]

She’s gettin an apevia case in the meantime

[dusk knot]

Ew. Star trek Picard

[sinful blade]

She just wants it for the cube

Not the Picard

She doesn’t want to watch new Picard because || icheb || is dead in it and || he was one of her favourite characters on voyager ||

[frigid stag]

Looks like Lego

[dusk knot]

She's Soo right

[fresh timber]

One escaped!

[dusk knot]

They ruined seven of nine and Picard to

Only season 3 was good

And even then, star trek is still dead

[craggy shoal]

I want to 3D print a case so bad

[dusk knot]

O

What do you have in mind, motor?

[craggy shoal]

Something for either mATX or mITX

Probably mITX and then migrate my Windows (Pro) server into it

Probably would be a tower case that would be in the shape of a cube. It would have two layers (could be modular? Adding more drivers the higher you go), the main two layers being the PSU at the bottom and the motherboard being on the top

I need threaded inserts though

[sinful blade]

Make a Borg cube

[craggy shoal]

This would be sick too ngl
https://makerworld.com/en/models/920281#profileId-882275

[sinful blade]

Sell it

[craggy shoal]

People would buy that

ultimate neckbeard server

[unreal trail]

brb buying that

[craggy shoal]

the fact that this is a thing makes me want to nut (sorry if too nsfw)

Wait this is mATX and only 3 plates. Exactly what I need

7 hours? I could get this done today

bruh what

[craggy shoal]

17.whatever hours and still just two plates

Still don't know where the motherboard goes wtf

[unreal trail]

motherboard goes into the mother

[craggy shoal]

Oh that's just an addon and the actual case takes like 15.2-26.1 hours 🫠
https://makerworld.com/en/models/689661#profileId-618397

[craggy shoal]

motherboard goes into the mother

man what

wild

😩

26.1 hours. Quicker than Amazon

(I don't have enough filament for this 🫠)

yeah just uses half a spool

[sinful blade]

I need to find a sub $150 gpu

[craggy shoal]

bro upped his budget to $150 nice

[sinful blade]

[craggy shoal]

BRUH THIS IS IN GRID INFILL

😩😩😩

[sinful blade]

I made some sacrifices

[craggy shoal]

nvm gyroid makes almost no difference

[craggy shoal]

trash

[dusk knot]

Lol

[tranquil pebble]

https://tenor.com/view/sumireko-usami-touhou-touhou-mmd-touhou-animation-gif-26957784

[craggy shoal]

I just want to move my Windows Pro server out of my room

[tranquil pebble]

My reaction to Nvidia pricing

[proud jackal]

How much to put aside for 5090

[tranquil pebble]

$4k, because you will probably pay close to that by the time scalpers get involved

[craggy shoal]

You mean you don't have 5090 money?

I have enough even after tax

🫠

[peak heart]

How much to put aside for 5070? Or any chance 4070 prices will drop?

[craggy shoal]

Honestly, wait for used 4070 cards

[peak heart]

Worth?????????

[craggy shoal]

Will be if scalping doesn't take place

[dusk knot]

$2500, theo

[tranquil pebble]

(it will)

[craggy shoal]

(you're right, more than likely)

[sinful blade]

Just get a 4080 or something

[craggy shoal]

Used 4080 would be nuts

[sinful blade]

50 series is NOT gonna be cheap for a long time

[craggy shoal]

50 series is NOT gonna be cheap*

[tranquil pebble]

Touch grass? Corn is a grass too so technically I eat grass, as corny as that is.

[craggy shoal]

Every time somebody tells me to touch grass I just go ride my bike on the trails

[fresh timber]

I’ll buy for $7

[craggy shoal]

"You do a lot of stuff at your desk. A lot of desk hobbies. You should go touch grass" lmaooo okay

[fresh timber]

5050

[craggy shoal]

Please take it from me and give me a reason to buy a new car

Just give me a happy meal and I'll be okay with that

[fresh timber]

I’ll take for free

[tranquil pebble]

overpriced igpu on a card

[craggy shoal]

YES DEAL PLEASE

[fresh timber]

Lmfao ru fr?

[craggy shoal]

(no)

[fresh timber]

Lmfao

I need a car

[craggy shoal]

I unfortunately need this garbage junk

[dusk knot]

Forget about the 5090. Traveling and touching grass is the goal

[tranquil pebble]

travel the world to touch every type of grass on the planet

[dusk knot]

I'm going to travel to Brazil in 3 months

[fresh timber]

You won’t return

[fresh timber]

Every blade

[dusk knot]

I'll be fine

I have contacts over there

[craggy shoal]

touch all 195 countries? nah. how about the billions of blades of grass

[fresh timber]

They are going to keep you

[craggy shoal]

JP has business in Brazil

[dusk knot]

No they won't

[fresh timber]

Prob more than trillions, like google plex

[tranquil pebble]

How to touch grass as a Linux user

[fresh timber]

If you froze time you still wouldn’t be able to touch all the grass

[craggy shoal]

Does nothing

[sinful blade]

TIL jp is a cartel drug kingpin

[tranquil pebble]

oh wait, dont even need echo because touch can create files

[craggy shoal]

Probably

hmmmmmm

Free AI is kinda wild

[lone mango]

My reaction

[craggy shoal]

What kind of data will it steal from me? My garbage code?

ehhh imma sign up for it

[lone mango]

Whats even the point of copilot pcs now

[craggy shoal]

This is GitHub Copilot. It helps you write code

[lone mango]

Oh

[craggy shoal]

Just comes with VS Code for free now

(Almost like the longest stretch of agreeance when it comes to Microsoft shaking hands with Linux)

[lone mango]

But since they are letting the actual one run on whatever, whats the point of copilot pcs now

[lone mango]

fr

[craggy shoal]

So I guess I just have free ChatGPT 4o. Kinda sketch tbh

Or Claude 3.5 Sonnet apparently

[rancid juniper]

Chatgpt pls code up GTA 6

[dusk knot]

Lol

[craggy shoal]

I'm about to hit Enter

L AI fr

[sage sluice]

Im finally a legal adult

[craggy shoal]

I have an idea

About to get y'all out of work fr

[opaque sedge]

Guys
#tech-industry-news message

Still doubtful btw

[lone mango]

Wow they are betting that people will a lot of these

https://youtu.be/3-s4KrPlIx4

Oh nvm I thought it was 42 different 5090s

[unreal trail]

bruh

[unreal trail]

time to start paying taxes

[rigid sinew]

good morning everyone

i hope anyone close to the fire in socal is safe!

[sage sluice]

Fr

My birthday gift was responsibilities

[velvet summit]

I read social so i thought you mean social media, and im over here thinking "there's always a fire in social media wym"

[velvet summit]

Damn your an April fools baby

[sage sluice]

Its april today? 😨

[velvet summit]

9 months

[rigid sinew]

birthday or no??

[mortal grail]

April fools

It's actually march

[sage sluice]

Lol yeah

[sage sluice]

😨

[opaque sedge]

I CAN START LEGALLY USING RECREATIONAL SUBSTANCES IN A MONTH THEN?!?

[mortal grail]

https://tenor.com/view/crumch-game-grumps-aaaaaa-aah-aaah-gif-20318560

[pliant berry]

And im the fool

[fresh timber]

im scared

im turning 19 this year

oo

unreleased new amd ai laptop thingy

but broken skreen

[old charm]

Thoughts?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mdgsKq

[velvet summit]

update on task manage

almost 12 million

mysterious...

[lone mango]

My computer will become slow after 3 or 4 days of uptime

[lone mango]

Idk if you will be able to get that ram speed with all 4 slots populated

Also the 9950x3d will be launching soon so I would wait to pull the trigger

And add like 1 or 200 for the card unless they said thats gonna be a msrp card

Are you gonna be gaming only

[old charm]

Fair enough. I'm going to try to have most, if not all the stuff at least ordered by the time the 5090 drops

[lone mango]

Yeah you could buy the rest and wait on it

[old charm]

I've got some machine learning projects I want to work on, like sentry gun stuff, lidar stuff, etc

[lone mango]

Oh ok so you would actually use the 5090 for 5090 stuff

[old charm]

It would mainly be as a hobby but yea

[lone mango]

If you were only gaming I was gonna be like bro

[old charm]

I'm just screwing around mainly with ML stuff

But a lot of times I procrastinate personal projects for warthunder

[lone mango]

[old charm]

I spent around $3k on the last build, I think this one will probably come in around $5k, which... Factoring inflation, honestly doesn't seem that bad

The first build was also an all-out build, at least at the time

1950x Threadripper and 1080ti

It still chooches, but I've been playing a lot more with research papers on AI and using NeRF style rendering for funsies

[chrome mirage]

My phone charger is charging my phone really fast. The max speed my phone is supposed to charge at is 40W but this charger keeps spiking above 50W and then stopping.

[dusk knot]

Huh

It's almost as if it's telling you not to go over 40 watts

🤔

[unreal trail]

Im tired

[dusk knot]

Go to bed

[chrome mirage]

It's the charger that came with the phone so you'd think it would do that itself

It went up another 25% since my first message

[dusk knot]

Sorry. I wasn't properly reading.

That's crazy

[dusk knot]

Maybe that's the way it's designed.

Look up other user experiences

[chrome mirage]

It wasn't doing that when I bought the phone and the charger works fine on my other devices

[dusk knot]

Weird

[chrome mirage]

Also the company that makes the phone says it does 80 watt charging which is a lie.

[dusk knot]

What's this company?

[chrome mirage]

Red magic

It's made by Nubia

[dusk knot]

Huh

[tacit geode]

I hate discord

[craggy shoal]

Yeah thanks iOS just go ahead and dial 911 while I’m driving and scare the crap out of my family via emergency contacts good job iOS thanks

I love it when iOS calls 911 for no reason it my favorite

[elfin mural]

Nubia is ZTE

[nocturne flicker]

It could be a way of preventing the battery from over heating? The more watts you push in at once that greater heat it generates

[elfin mural]

https://www.theverge.com/2025/1/8/24338974/samsung-galaxy-subscription-smartphones-ballie

what happens if you stop paying?

they're probably gonna lock the phones