#storage-devices
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explain
but no death pls mr. sirš
It's same controller iirc
explain whatš
what is ex900
Hp
like in minecraft?
no
Sm2263xt
or the company
an ssd made by HP ā¢_ā¢
The company
alright but like is there a review
Is micron 64L the meta for budget drive now...?
not soon
toshiba on the come up
Micron 176L when xd
itās already a thing
I mean on consumer drives
Saw it on a micron drive like a month ago
(Micron 3400)
When we getting it in like rocket 4 plus
cool so it's an hmb tlc drive that is good
rocket 4 plus is already bae
it shouldnāt change
Better rnd can help tho
yea, now no death pls
c710 very poggy woggy
Why tho
why wut
no death
Mp33 and helix L are more my go to for budget drives
mp33 has been solid since i started giving build help
Well, go-to-check drives
c710 is cheaper tho
1$
and z330 occasionally becomes below as well
thatās a 3 musketeerās bar good sir
Lol
Not a fan of the mp33
That price tier I'd go sn550
how come
Most people aren't going to go through the pslc cache
ā¦.what
Kinda bad hmb
Sure split metadata on the sn550 makes it perform nice but that doesn't make mp33 bad :p
look when it comes to gamers (average build helpee) they really dont need much more than an mp33
It doesn't make it good either
It makes mp33 tolerable, especially when considering price
sn550 was always good for UK builds
mp34 though
split metadata is just a weird implementation they decided to do
a80 though
i would rather pure dynamic
90$ mp33 1tb or 105$ sn550 1tb is an easy choice imo
butā¦idk WD on crack or sum
It performs good, good enough for me
yea, but the decision was weird lol
If there's room in budget, I usually go mp34
It's not dumb if it works ;)
a80 at 99$ tho
P34a80 or p32a80
didnāt say it was dumbš¤Ø
p34
Also, did p34a80 change controllers again after going e12 to sm2252 or whatever
why get an mp34 when z340 is $10 cheaper
or sn750 š¤Ø
or just be weird and pay $20 more for us70
Sn750 a lil sad though
how is it sad
it's like a low end high end drive if you look at rnd
@trim cloak ever got the kids who cry when the drive is dramless
luckily i got one for a good deal at mc iirc 100$
a lot of times yes definitely
for $115 itās not bad at all
usually 130$, which is what my impression of it comes from
115 is a sale price
You can't compare sale prices to normal prices
pilot e is nice, 110$ pretty consistently
last time i was in pcpp server pilot e was hard parroted
that makes no senseā¦itās what it is going for
Then why not just buy the 970 evo
you expect me to pay higher retail prices because itās not the original purpose
pilot e is just kind of hardwired into my brain
512gb 970 evo, 54 bucks
lol also that time i got a build from u a while back you used a pilot e
where
It was on Amazon
right now?
About nine months ago, but it was what it went for
btw, why? I feel like pilot e would just perform better
you clearly canāt comprehend sales going on rn, so idk what you think this is
better random io and such
not a big difference
but thatās me, idc what anyone else gets lol
I'll check, but p sure pilot e will do better in most seq benches
also was cheaper for a while, they trade blows with that
if youāre looking at max sequential then yea
but that doesnāt matter like at all lol
which can vary from drive to drive of the same model
ye iām not disregarding sequential workloads
not max seq, was just looking at a bunch of charts on tom's hardware, most looked like pilot e is just superior, looking at rnd atm, but it seems like they might've used different versions of iometer or something, because the same drive got different scores in the two different reviews, which makes me sad.
wasn't even paying attention to what chart I saw
dyes
For a drive rn I'd say pilot e is the best bet
anyways, too lazy atm to pay attention, pilot e seems fine still for my uses in slapping in people's lists
because p32a80 dumb
a80 currently is p34, why would SP want to keep it currently p32 in the market
i mixed that up
fake
pilot e shilling days are over
no longer cheapest in mid range
no 1 or 2 tb option for t hat
should i get it?
MP33 is fine for a budget drive, MP34 is a tier higher.
Mp34 should have a 1tb, is it out of stock?
it has no metadata obviously
ah yes how could i forget
What's the replacement
p34a80 and just accept mysterious unic flash
Aight
thats what im saying
hope for the sm2262en variant tho
is what he shouldāve told you to look for
which is iām pretty sure the latest update of that model
at least hope for the early 2020 variant then
the concern isnt the controller the concern is bics3 vs unic lol
I need some help. I just installed my sea gate 4tb hard drive into my pc and itās formatted but when I try to download a game from steam it says disk write error
Does it work if you run steam as admin?
No I tried that
Are other things able to write to the drive without issue?
Havenāt tried anything else
You might try making a new folder on the drive, and then telling steam to make a library in the new folder
Can anyone suggest an 1TB SSD that I could use to replace this 256GB M.2 PCIe NVMe Solid State Drive
4tb Samsung QVO ssd or the 4tb EVO ssd for $200 more?
Should I get the 4tb Samsung QVO ssd or the 4tb EVO ssd for $200 more? Is there much difference beside write speed?
I'd check the pins there's a guide to buy
Why do you need 4tb in one drive? And no it's not worth 200 extra
yea this guide š https://github.com/windshields/Gamezoid-SSD-buying-guide/blob/main/SSD tier list.md
Gamezoid SSD buying guide, maintained and updated by the Gamezoid team. - Gamezoid-SSD-buying-guide/SSD tier list.md at main Ā· windshields/Gamezoid-SSD-buying-guide
What is PCIe?
what was the purpose of this question tho
avoiding wikipedia š
I want to upgrade from my 256 GB SSD to a 1TB SSD, but since I have never done anything with SSD's (only with HDD's), I thought I would ask
ah alright
what lol?
I mean, for the most part... SSDs are fairly similar to HDD's. It's just the way they are plugged in. Either an M.2 connection, or a standard SATA connection. M.2 will (if it's NVMe) be faster than SATA.
in what are they similar lol, the fact that they store data?
they are literally completely different
The fact that they both store data, permenantly.
wellā¦not permanently
They both serve the exact same function, in 2 different speeds.
thereās faulty factors to think about
It's about as permanent as human life is.
you ever heard of electrons āleakingā out?
or even for hard drives, that can all cause corrupted foles
I've literally, never heard of that, it sounds like a REALLY rare thing to have happen.
Because... For the most part, unless a Platter is damaged, or the Head just fails. An HDD lasts a LONG time.
And SSDs have a pretty long shelf life too.
well the disk can fail, itās not invincibleā¦
yea but itās mot nearly forever
data retention is a thing, and can affect both storage devices
As a side note, nand flash cells work by having electrons practically teleport into a charge trap soooo (quantum tunneling is fun)
But SSDs are called SSDs because they are Solid-State drives, no moving parts, no platter
HDDs are quite prone to being damaged by vibrations and relatively strong magnets, SSDs really aren't
idk why you felt the need to say all that
iām sure he got that lol
i mean besides FowlerāNordheim tunneling, but basically unnecessary
just needs to know that RBER occurs more frequently than they think
Cosmic bitflips more fun
SSDs are not HDDs, therefore I present my argument
Welp, I also just felt like typing it so I did
Fill the ssd with data and leave it unplugged for 10 years
XD
Until that pesky solar flare wipes a critical bit and makes the drive unreadable
There's a good reason why the arctic code vault doesn't use SSD or HDD
thatās why optane is very cool with more resistance to VTH of programming :D
frick normal ssdās
whats it stored on then?
tape?
I didnt know what this was and its very interesting after some reading up on it
the more you know!
so I googled it. amazing.
Where do I put my sata ssd?
What case do you have
Can I just put it in the back?
Yeah, there's 2 or 3 black things on the back side of where the motherboard is or you can put it in the hdd tray
Thx dude
Np
And what about cooling tho?
What about it?
Sata ssds don't need cooling
Far from a common issue for sata SSDs
^ unless you live closer to the sun than the rest of humanity you'll be fine lol
As long as we're talking about 2.5in sata SSDs
Tonight i dont
Yeah we are
Unless your room is like 70 Celsius
You're fine
@undone jacinth just think of it this way, a m.2 drive is tiny, a 2.5in drive just has a m.2 drive but with that huge surface area for the heat to radiate off of, and it's not NVMe, so it's not going to be running that fast or hot
Not accurate but easier to think of
And if it is, you're probably dead anyway
So you have bigger issues
Ya
the only issues i have is running out of milk for my cookie crisps
pretty common and depending on the wear on the SSD
nand flash is hot garbage and hard copes by having a poop ton of ecc to work properly
buttt, thatās when read-retryās problem is getting completed :D
its correcting errors therefor its ecc
Yeah, they leak all the time, trick is getting enough in there that you can still tell what it's supposed to be and replacing the ones that pop out
The fact that they stay in there as long as they do is honestly amazing
i mean you put too much in and you start flipping bits, and you can't just replace the ones that pop out you have to reprogram an entire block
but you probably know that 
Just bought a TeamGroup Z440 2TB and I'm getting really weird results
I'm expecting something like this:
Any thoughts?
Is your ssd in a gen 4 slot ?
4.3 GB/s says yes
Rnd4k image is running a different test so that part makes sense
Reads being on the low side eh
Check if windows is doing something weird
Yes
That's the theory, but idk what to check
Task manager
Windows sometimes just does indexing at random times
And then just check windows corruption with dism and sfc
Well that would definitely count for the seq speeds
It's in a gen 4 slot set to gen 4, but not getting gen 4 speeds
It is for write though, which is kinda interesting
Nvm i misread
Rebooted and got these results
Yay
Better...
Check if trim is off
?
Trim wouldn't make that big of a difference for read speed, would it?
It might make a little, so worth checking
gonna find sfc and dism guide rq
General fix for random windows problems
From an admin command prompt or powershell, run:
sfc /scannow
If that doesn't work, try:
dism /online /cleanup-image /checkhealth
dism /online /cleanup-image /scanhealth
dism /online /cleanup-image /restorehealthThen, try running sfc again.
Repeat as necessary
fsutil behavior query DisableDeleteNotify
To check trim
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but yea
He uses arch, he can handle it lol
oh then yea
so my gfs hdd is having a lot of issues
pc randomly freezes for like 5min, disk running at 100%
chkdsk repaired it like 3 weeks ago and it temporarily fixed it
im guessing just get an ssd?
whats a good 1tb ssd? preferably around or under $100
mp33 1tb works
\
this one?
ye
ok thank you
long link
yep
simple shorten later
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07XHMBQK3/
and a bit more
ty
@minor sun does this ssd have DRAM cache? i heard its pretty important if you don't want your pc to slow down as it gets filled up
or i dont have to worry about that?
where you have to start worrying about dram is SATA drives
I guess, but I don't see any issue with my dramless wd green
But for sata it's recc to have dram anyway
honestly don't know if I'd use a dramless sata drive
it'd probably be fine for general files ig
It's pretty fine
I use it for os
It doesn't slow down at all for my use case
And it's like used up by 70% at this point
nice
As in filled ofc
I have an aio that uses a 240GB sandisk drive
the computer is absolutely the bottleneck, it's an a8-6410
lmao true
the cpu is the bottleneck
i also have same wd green drive in my bro's a4-6210 laptop
it's still sluggish
hehe
cause the cpu sure makes it slow
I have an a8-7600 at home that I need to make a build with that would be much better
so would you guys say that mp33 is a good drive, or do you guys know any better ones?
yeah it's probably pretty nice
it's nice
tom's hardware likes it for it being dramless
also ye
a8 7600 would be much better to use day to day
a8 6410 is mobile
the a4 6210 is even worse
i regret choosing it for him lmao
he barely used it cause it doesn't game so well
runs hot
What's a good mass storage m.2?
Whatās like the best of the best HDD?
My Seagate finally died on me and Iām looking for a replacement
How best of the best you want? Like server grade ? And what size?
I'm thinking about wd blue but idk
x300 is probably better
I'm averse towards barracoda lol
I'd grab the x300
X300 is best bang for buck but you can find 12k rpm server drives
It uses HMB instead of dedicated dram
isn't hmb a dedication of a portion of your system ram tho
or is it like an on the fly cache it shrinks and expands as needed
Yeah I've got the x300 hdd performs better then my seagate
itās ram dram
Yes
yes
yes
yes?
Yes
Yes
Yes
Yes
Yes
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Aegis
why ruin >;(
Aegis
I just bought 2 1TB 980 pros
Decent deal on Amazon, theyāre being sold for $180
I kinda think itās worth it for that price, very similar rand to the P31 but slightly worse but a large difference in sequential speeds
GARBAGE
ADATA S70 IS KING
$150 FOR 1TB GET OWNED
Depends what for ig, doesn't the S70 have really poor performance when working with large chunks of data?
^
Yeah it has very slow write speeds once the SLC cache fills up
And is still beaten by the 980 pro in every way
P31 is neat
I love my P31s
I mostly bought the 980s because Iām going to be building another system so Iāll have them ready for it when I get around to it
And I donāt think $180 for a 1TB is a bad deal
I would do that if I was going for a budget build but I donāt think thereās anything budget about my build Iām planning out 
what better for a boot drive a WD Black SN750 or a Samsung 980 I found both for 65.99 for a 500 GB
Neither at that price, 500gb is just bad value right now imo
You could get a good 1tb drive for $90
ye I found those prices for it but I just figured it be better to just have a separate drive for just windows and other computer programs
If you're just using it for a boot drive you don't need a top model anyway
Got busy, so I only just got around to doing this. Did this and optimized the drive and got the same basic results:
"doesn't the S70 have really poor performance when working with large chunks of data" no
and its sustained performance is pretty acceptable for tier S
so even in like 500gb+ file transfers all good
idk i award it gamezoid S tier value king award
Eh, not bad. Definitely not firecuda territory, but that's also usually 220 or so
what is a good cheap 1tb m.2 drive?
Intel 660p isn't bad
oof it's $160 though
I got mine for $80 a few years ago
what about the crucial p2?
No clue, sorry
ty
I don't understand how some of my numbers are equal to or better than expected and others are just crap
is dramless good or bad?
This is also info included in the pin
Is this the drive your OS is stored on?
well usually bad but sometimes we get the marvel that is called the SN550 and dramless ssd becomes good
No, it's brand new
Just formatted NTFS
i think my laptop has a 500gb sn550
Just that and "optimized" it
oh wait sn530
@blazing musk I got it in a few days ago. It's on a gen 4 lane direct to my CPU. Bios is configured for gen 4 on that slot. I'm not short on lanes. SEQ1MQ8T1 read and RND4KQ32T16 R/W are both lower than expected, especially random. I bought the drive for that performance, so I'd really hate to leave it on the table
the 660p?
TeamGroup Z440
I'm booting of a 660p rn
I even tried turning my RAM speed down a little since one of my friends told me that helped him, but nothing
what are you comparing them to?
like lower than expected but what were you expecting
Looking for around 3k
Getting under 1.5
run a bench and screenshot
Like that random performance is what this drive seems to be good at. Seq is meh compared to competitive drives, but the rand blows everything else out of the water
Gimme a sec
This was my latest
Running a new one for you
there are many drives with better rand
Different size drives can have different performance
I'm not opposed to hearing other options, but I'd really like to know why this one isn't performing as expected
You think a 1TB vs a 2TB (what I have) would be half the rand performance?
It's entirely possible depending on which controller and NAND they used
Any way I can check without pulling it out?
also depending on how old the review is and how new ur drive is, the internals could have been changed since release too
True
Yeah they've been swapping parts around too much in drives lately...
Bench is almost finished
So I've seen
Check for a new firmware version for the drive and bios update for the system
BIOS is good. How do I check for a new firmware version on windows? (Sorry, I don't use windows often)
Run crystal disk info and it'll show your firmware version
Uh how do I tell it which drive?
There's tabs at the top with drive letters
Where at?
Well I think we found your problem lol
That looks like your bios is configured for RAID mode
Weird. The only other thing that would cause the drive to not be detected is a weird driver.
I mean I haven't installed any drivers besides the ones I assume windows already had for generic nvme storage
So CrystalDiskInfo isn't seeing any drive?
Right, it's not seeing any drive
Hm
Are you on intel or amd?
AMD
Ok so it's not the intel storage acceleration garbage
Nope
I've literally done nothing but plug it in, format it as ntfs, optimize it, and update windows
Try this next, newest version as of yesterday https://drivers.amd.com/drivers/amd_chipset_software_3.09.01.140.zip
So either the drive has different components then all the benches I've seen, or my Windows install is borked, but not bad enough for sfc to find anything
It looks more like a storage or driver misconfiguration
Roger
Installing...
Oh dear lord the scaling
amazing
Oh it zoomed off into the void...
... There's clearly something deeper going on
It's open somewhere
Not on any monitor
And not minimized
So ig I'll restart it lol
I'd rather not reinstall windows since I have a really weird audio configuration but I wouldn't cry if I had to. Was already debating it anyways
Ok there we go
Installing drivers
Installed successfully
Rebooting, brb
This isn't promising
Crystaldiskinfo still not detecting either
What version of Windows are you on?
See if this can detect the drive, it's direct from Team Group's website
Nothing there either, I'm at a loss. The last thing I'd do is either reinstall Windows or just deal with the performance.
Reinstall was somewhere on the horizon anyways...
I appreciate the help
fwiw
Literally never gonna use this drive with windows but I have it here as F for now so I can bench
One of those tools should have detected at least 4 of those drives, if not all 6
Beats me
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No f*ing clue how Windows does anything in the background
I'll try reinstalling windows sometime
Ideally this week
We'll see
If I make any progress (or don't) I'll @ you
Sounds good. It might take a bit for me to reply if I'm busy, but if I don't respond someone else can help.
No worries
Ty for trying
One last bench for no reason...
Welp
I'll reinstall Windows when I get a chance
itās not lol.
definitely not firecuda 520/30 price either, so it makes complete sense
althoā¦heck s70, us70>
Language please
oh sorry, my fault
All good. Just be conscious about it here in this server, we have a lot of minors here and its against the rules
yea for sure
I found 8 tb m.2 gen 8 drive
My guy, you're spamming. Please don't
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HI all. First time on discord. Recommended from the help desk at Newegg. I have a 2018 HP laptop that I like a lot, but I need to increase the internal SSD storage. At the moment it has a SK hynix PC401 HFS256GD9TNG-62A0A drive installed. I'm looking for recommendations of a larger drive that will fit in the same space, and any helpful information on how to clone the drive and do the swap. Is this a good place to get that info ?
That's a standard NVMe 2280 drive. How large are you looking for? There's decent drives for about $90 for 1TB or $185 for 2TB.
Cloning is easy enough. There's several methods you can use.
I'd probably be fine going to 1TB. I think my lightroom catalog is the big consumer so going from 256G to 1 TB is likely enough, though twice as much for another $ 90 or so mibht be worth it. Assuming I order a drive, do I need to order something like an enclosure to do the clone ? I did that on my last laptop and it went fine, but it looks like the form factor has changed.
An enclosure would be the easiest method for cloning but it's not the only method. If you have a backup hard drive you can save an image of the drive to that, but it's a little more complicated.
I'd spend the extra 5$ for the sn550 if you can afford
Seems like a good choice and it's on sale at newegg now. Any thoughts on an enclosure and any software needed to clone ?
You could use an enclosure like this, any will do tbh just make sure it's PCIe NVMe compatible
https://www.amazon.com/SSK-Aluminum-Enclosure-Adapter-External/dp/B07MNFH1PX/ref=psdc_160354011_t1_B076DCNZM3
As far as software, Clonezilla is the best way since it runs from outside Windows, but Macrium Reflect is decent enough
Thanks. I've grabbed screen captures of this conversation and I'll do some shopping. Thanks for the help !! I'll drop in from time to time ....this is a great resource.
Happy to help! Stop by if you have any questions or just want to talk tech
Will do. Thanks all !
What about an external drive?
Tbf external drives can be a pain for something that's supposed to be portable
External drives kinda suck for laptops in general
HI guys, My PC is dis-connecting some of my SATA drives, A HDD and a SSD. I get a message through Intel rapid storage technology app saying they have dis-connected. It seems to be out of no where, the only thing I can think of is I recently hooked up a USB external HDD with some media files on it but I've tried with it unhooked too with the same results. I restarted my PC to try to fix the issue but it was taking forever in the loading screen after post. so I checked BIOS but the only thing that looked weird in there was it was in CSM mode and I thought it was always in UEFI but I can't be a 100% sure of that, Do you guys have any ideas about fixing this issue and what ever may have caused it? Thanks
i have a 40gb old Seagate hd, i unplugged it like maybe 3 or 2 times of this computer that my dad has and apparently system in the sys32 folder corrupted and I can't login to windows XP now, is there a fix for it?
probably, you might be able to repair the installation from the install disk
been a while since ive messed with xp tho
Is this a good ssd? Check this out on @Newegg: Team Group MP33 M.2 2280 1TB PCIe 3.0 x4 with NVMe 1.3 3D NAND Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) TM8FP6001T0C101 https://www.newegg.com/team-group-mp33-1tb/p/N82E16820331417?Item=N82E16820331417&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-20-331-417-_-09162021
I own a Lenovo Ideapad Y700 15ISK laptop and I want to replace the HDD with a SSD cloning the OS and Data. Is the SAMSUNG 870 QVO Series 2.5" 2TB SATA III Samsung 4-bit MLC V-NAND Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) MZ-77Q2T0B/AM compatible and is there anything else that I need to purchase to be able to clone the current HDD?
If you want budget bulk SSD it's pretty good
wtf is a bulk ssd lol
Bulk storage, where you dump all the random stuff
I'm guessing they're referring to the bit of the market segment drives like rocket q holds
never hear of someone refer to an ssd to use it for bulk storage lol
usually just say āitās good enoughā
It's a market segment that exists, and I don't judge other for how they want to use terms as long as it makes sense to me sooo
yea for sure, not everyone needs something fast or being able to withstand stressing workloads
Yeah, I'm starting to see a shift in drive choices in higher end builds
thats what my cm5-r is for
my desktop is all ssd and i offload stuff i dont need on my desktop to my server
That's a MUCH better result
That's gen4 speeds right there
The random still looks slightly low but that's either variance between units or a controller swap
This was the benchmark they looked at before btw #storage-devices message
Didn't even think to check if it was still the e16 before lol
That would have been smart
Noted for next time
different drive tho
one is C: one is F:
unless they just changed the configuration actually ā¢_ā¢
That's a result from a benchmarking site, drive letter doesn't make that much difference also
Same drive
yea i know, read what i typed after :D
Fine, bad for the price but if free then good lol
I think it went down in price
50$ on amazon rn
Ntb but I'd rather a sn550
everything free is good
and yes, even free expired bread is good, cause fun to throw away :D
lmao
you can get perfectly good food from the dumpsters of grocery stores during power outages
that of course relies on having terrible electrical infrastructure and disaster management
which America checks the boxes ;)
yes that ofc too!
When on sale or free is good
It's qlc, but they have a section of slc set aside for cache so it's not entirely horrible
I have a 1TB 660p that I use for more bulk storage, I think it was $80 or so
Depends how expired it is, if it's just stale you can use that bread to make stuffing 
or croutons for salad. Just put oil and spices and then toast in oven
iāve actually never knew that abt croutons
Croutons make salad soo much better, I actually want to eat so much salad with croutons
Im having an issue with my RAID 0 speeds. Read and write is only about 20MB/s on otherwise healthy drives. The drives in the array are 3 146GB 10k SAS Drives.
Hardware or software raid? Sounds like one of the drives has a failing controller maybe
i cant have too many carbs but i love subs š
You can check the SMART data by turning off raid mode in bios and booting an external OS like a Linux USB boot
I don't know of any non-specialty tool that can read SMART while raid is on
Then when you're done you can just turn raid back on
Yea I checked, and everything had seemed fine
Hmm, probably want to back up the data first and foremost. Raid 0 is risky, especially 3 way.
No data, ok cool that's easy to test then. Turn off raid and you can test each drive individually for speed to see if one is the fault or if it's another factor by re-initializing the disk and putting a new volume on it.
Fair enough
If each drive is roughly the same then you can do software raid using Windows storage spaces (or similar) which will tell you if it's the southbridge or driver that's at fault.
Yea each drive is identical
I mean roughly the same performance when you test individual speeds
Oh
Should have been more clear sorry
Lol it's fine man
Yea two of the 3 drives are getting around 10MB/s
The other one is fine
Now you know where the issue is at least, either the controllers or other hardware are failing on those 2 drives. Since they're 10k drives it's possibly the motor, which can be replaced if that's the issue.
Try putting the hba into IT mode
I'm gonna contact the seller and see if I can get 2 replacement drives. If not, it's not worth shelling out the money for repairs since I had planned on upgrading drives in the nearish future anyway
Also Im pretty sure it is a physical issue with the drives since They were making clicking noises whenever they were being operated. I had suspected those two drives were bad all along when my OS install was being extremely slow.
I just wasnt sure if that was normal since I dont use 10k drives too often, and the drives were technically functional
Well that was a quick response, they said theyll send 2 replacement right away
Anybody know if it's bad to just highlight everything on a hard drive and just completely delete it?
Not the hard drive with windows on it though
I reset my pc and I have like 10 hard drives and I just wanna wipe and delete everything on all them to start fresh
dban
Does it really matter if the data is recoverable or not?
Like if I don't use dban will that cause issues in the future?
Id only have to use that if I were selling it I feel
Also another question is it bad to cut and paste all the files from one drive to another?
nah
it's totally healthy
but if you wanna wipe the drive completely
dban is the best method
no way to recover it
If you just want to wipe it to reuse it formatting the drive works fine, it'll get rid of hidden files too that way
^
ye, dban is just neatest method
Is the 660p fine for a boot drive? I am getting one for free and I am thinking of shuffling around my SSDs between builds
I asked basically the same question like 2 days ago, bad for the price but it's a decent enough drive
Gold hynix something or other I think is better, I can grab a link
Eh, as I said, free stuff is free stuff, just want to know if it is fine for a boot drive
Oh for free
Missed that part sorry
Yeah its pretty decent
As pato said
š š
yes
free is very good
or even if you happen to buy it
it's ok for normal usage of vast majority of people
should I buy a M.2 nvme cooler/heatsink ??
Doubtful that it's needed
nope
then why does WD sells additional heatsinks ??
Money
to look pretty
Yup, pure looks. Only reason I bought a heatsink is so there wouldn't be some random blue in the build. If you really need it, the drive can be installed in a slot that comes with a heatsink, the only reason motherboards come with one is because it is right underneath the gpu anyways, not because the drives really need it. Or to look better
looks nice on a shelf and on the product images
LOL
yea... i got sent two bad drives with a server I bought. luckily im getting them replaced for free
F
I've gotta put my hdd in my pc I got a while back in a trade
4tb hgst replacing a 2tb external that is dying
From 2018 but iirc hgsts have a long life
no one should āhappen to buy itā
I think you could happen to buy something. Saw something that interests you in the shelf and you buy it? I think that constitutes it
@minor sun sorry for the ping need an answer quickly, is this safe?
The hdd placement
Ignore the cords
as long as it's secured, nothing wrong I can tell..?
is it secured?
as far as I'm concerned, even if you ziptied it, as long as it's in place, doesn't really matter where you put it
Alright thanks
Last time I put an hdd in a pc it was lying on the bottom and it corrupted a week later
So wanted to make sure lol
jesus
hmmm
lol. Interesting that it is the same price as the Gen 3 SN750
More evidence it's only about marketing
Ah jeez. I just shucked my first wd elements drive and it looks like i got the unlucky dip. Its a WD white drive in there, so i am guessing i am gonna need to do that pin thing with it?
not good
YEP
and its worse
the only externals that ive had from wd that arent whites are the duos
I know that these will either have whites or red from what I've read in the past. Other than the 3.3v pin i assume there isnt anything else that's bad about the drive
I havent actually plugged it in yet to see if the drive works or not without the tape but guessing it probably will need it
I shucked my 10tb WD drive and got a white label. Works fine in my server, I've got all my media on it now.
Mines a 14.
Yours worked with no tape?
No modification at all, just shucked and plugged
good to know
Looks like i didn't get lucky on my drive. It's not being detected by the PC.
Do i have to use something like Polyimide tape for the pin or can i use something else?
guys
i cloned my system to my new ssd and went into Mobo boot and set my boot to my ssd and i did a format on my old one and i did a reset now it wont boot up
what do i do?
theres a bunch of random ones in china that both you and i have never heard of
like UNIC
????
yea ofc I mean new mainstream one
as in, no longer doing some random like 4l flash in the corner
but doing some fine performing 64l and then 128l flash
Based on what I'm reading of your message you've basically said that you format both SSDs. So in that case you pretty much have no OS on either drive anymore. You'll wanna make a win 10 or OS of your choice bootable installation on a memory stick from another PC
its okay i got into bios and selected the ssd that i cloned my system to and it booted up just fine
my old ssd was corrupt so i just formatted the drive and its clear now
same
can someone help me tell if the SSD i selected is compatible with my motherboard?
i cant send screenshots here
What motherboard you got and what ssd you want?
ill send u a dm
Gigabyte Z490M
Can you send the name of the ssd?
Innovation IT Performance+ 1 TB 00-1024111+ retail
something like this
on the page it says the socket is this
PCIe NVMe
Latvia
Ahh
Are there any other options?
Like mb a sn550?
Or something
But yeah it will work
what makes SSD different from others?
because this one has good speed
and is like 1TB
for a reasonably cheap price
Just different controllers and nand flash, just like what makes a car good, is a cheap car still a car yeah, but a good more expensive car will be a nicer, faster experience
yeah, but basing of the speed mentioned under the SSD i chose, it seems like that would be a faster experience, for a better price
since the writing speed is 3400 MB/s
and the reading speed is 3000 MB/s
That's sequential speed, not random, sequential is what you use if you're transfering like a huge 30gb file, random is what you use day to day, so random performance is actually way more important to majority of people
so where can i see the random performance
or is that just very different for each ssd, and its something u cant really see?
No, it's something you can see, random performance is measured in iops, if you look up a review or something of the drive if it isn't on the website
oh ok, ill check it out then
I have a question, I have a 1TB SSD drive but I need more space for games, music, pic, etc. What would be a good way of doing that and how would I set it up?
wdym?
Expanding the ssd's capacity or partitioning it into chunks?
If expanding the ssd's capacity, no
You need a bigger ssd for more lol
or more ssd
or an hdd
Would need another drive
yep
Thanks...... you are being helpful
@trail igloo you could also try to clean your SSD
try to delete some files u dont need, but be careful
You didn't ask a question mate, re read what you said
Well you did ask a question but it's missing something
What is it missing?
Wdym by "what would be a good way of doing that?"
Like more storage? I mean you can get more storage or use the cloud(for everything but games)
Need more local storage
Then depending on your budget and how much extra storage you want you can get another ssd or hard drive
I lack funds for a bigger ssd
Well you don't need a bigger ssd you can just add another ssd
Assuming you're not talking about a laptop with no expandability
It's a desktop
Well what's your budget and now much storage you looking for then?
I don't know my budget per se, but I feel maybe 2TB more would help, maybe 4 tops
Are you in the us?
Yes
for 2tb: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Jd8j4D/western-digital-blue-2-tb-35-5400rpm-internal-hard-drive-wd20ezaz for 4tb: for budgetish one https://pcpartpicker.com/product/LN2bt6/western-digital-red-4-tb-35-5400rpm-internal-hard-drive-wd40efax for more premium one https://pcpartpicker.com/product/xHzZxr/toshiba-internal-hard-drive-hdwe140xzsta
or if you want for ssd options you can get 500gb for 50ish, 1tb for 90ish, 2tb for 200ish
i mean mb? i honestly dont know
Hmm, really wish the ssd were cheaper
would be nice but it is getting cheaper
Yeah, but not fast enough
well obvs its not gonna be the same price as hdds by december but its going down at same rate as hdds did vs floppy etc
Itās honestly a crap shoot imo. Example: I bought an nvme because it was highly recommended here in this very chat and had some test data to back it up, test data provided was faster than others that were advertised as being faster. Well fast forward a couple months Iām building a pc for a family member and when picking out a drive Iām like āahh yes the WD SN550 is a great bang for the back high speed SSDā š¤¦āāļø literally days later I see the YouTube vids š it wasnāt a high demand machine by any means so it figured wth, long story long, you can do all the research you want in the end you still might just poop the bed anyways. Use your gut, buy name brand and cross your fingers š
That was because they changed the parts of the sn550 tho
Iām aware. Thatās why i said itās a crap shoot when picking one out because you never know š
Avoid adata and you'll probs be pretty safe lol
To be fair, that news came to this discord fairly quickly when it did came, and I'd say the lesson learned should NOT be just don't do research, the lesson learned is the market rapidly changes, advice can change as the situation changes :p
Itās like a pot of stew, throw in some research, some name brands, little bit of initial impressions stir it all up and see what comes out š as most things you get what you pay for in general anyways. The sn550 the news broke literally days after I bought one ššš¤¦āāļø
Ehhh
Name brands are what these things are happen to, WD and ADATA are pretty big names, you turn to say team and I haven't seen them swap components yet :p
Even Samsung was doing some weird stuff swapping controller
My next point was gonna be the ājust buy Samsung or donāt buy anythingā crowd š
Team group is one I actually donāt know much about. Iām in the market for another drive but not in a hurry. Waiting to see if anything goes on sale. I have a P5 thatās been good to me so far Those are currently $120
If thereās a 1% Iāll find it, itās just my luck š
and the sn550 news is also incredibly boring
booooo
adata and silicon power were doing it before it was cool
Lol
Tbf p34a80 went from e12 to sm2262 iirc, one good controller to another good controller :p
YEP
gamezoid is being rebranded btw
Ya I saw
so the guide link wont work at some point or the other
stoRAGE
Yup
The fan looks like a 200mm fan for some reason lol
Reason: Bad word usage
holy crap
this is what happens when people listen to sean webster
2262en
actually
e12>e12s>2262en
did you just say e12 is worse than e12s lmao
e12s is e12 but can only handle half the dram capacity
kek
Ping me and post the new link when it's updated, and I'll make it the new pin
kk
idk im too lazy to update it
today at least
egress training tomorrow š“
Whenever it gets updated, no big deal
no?
e12s has half the dram cap of e12
with the latest as i said, the 2262en
As it's written that says e12 is greater than e12s which is greater than 2262
ik what e12s is, this isnāt about that
oh lol
im having a funny moment
if you are using the signs in a literal sense sure
e12s>sm2262en have you had a sudden change of heart
but those are indicated as arrows
thought you were a soy motion fanboy
gamezoid ssd controller mk 1 rev 1 will be entirely open source
cause we are reliable and trustworthy 
but i will be making my own closed source BSD operating system called closedBSD
oh lol i just realized what you were trying to say
That's a good way to guarantee no one downloads it
No one likes closed source Linux
bsd isnt linux get good
and people use unraid so lol
which is closed source
yes, thank you
absolutely incredible
Is 550mbs read and 520 write ssd good for gaming?
not really how that works
lol
sounds like generic sata though so probably fine
Ye sata 3
i mean what actual drive is it
i feel like for the QLC nand rant
you should add a little side note, how it can always get improved and such with new implementations and whatever
all that jazz
it's already in there
not a good drive, but probably acceptable for light use
Since the old pin works for now and has extra info I'll leave both up for the time being
i waaaaaaant it https://www.ebay.com/itm/133819842361?
š
36gb š
Tbh i wouldn't use it, I just want it because it's a first gen raptor drive
Yea but I still think it's cool
The whole raptor/velociraptor lineup was considered pretty good when they were still coming out
i mean ig, but a hard drive as a piece of decor is justā¦not as ideal lol
It's called collecting 
I don't see the difference between sentiments regarding wanting to collect hard drives vs. Cpu boxes.
It's just something that a person has interest in which makes them want to collect it lol
Have you seen my little cpu sticker collection in #build-pics lol
thereās no difference, people like what they likeš¤·āāļø
iām just voicing my opinion, that itās just a rectangular prism lol
Ironic
in silver too, what a colorš©
Can anyone recommend a free program to migrate my entire OS to my new M2 ssd?
Macrium reflect is very nais
https://www.digitimes.com/news/a20210924PD211.html
SSD goes more brrrr
bzzzzz
If itās a Samsung drive, their data migration tool is excellent.
Horray, my free replacement hard drives all work lol
Any recommendations for 1tb NVME ssd for a budget of $150? I'll mainly game with some modding, but I might try viewpoint animation as well.
P31 Gold specifically




